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Author Topic: "the Mooch"  (Read 27143 times)

Offline stroker crazy

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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #430 on: May 06, 2018, 19:10:34 »
 At a 2016 campaign rally, Trump said “The mob takes the fifth amendment, If you’re innocent, why are you taking the fifth amendment?”
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« Reply #431 on: May 07, 2018, 22:43:21 »
https://www.cnn.com/2015/03/10/politics/tom-cotton-iran-letter-logan-act/index.html Kerry is within his rights to keep in contact with regarding national security. Trump is getting a lot of pressure from Israel to tear up the deal, removing a block to a war, that will give them more territory.
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« Reply #432 on: May 08, 2018, 06:33:41 »
What rights? He is no longer Sec of State, no longer holds any office, and is not registered as a agent of the state.

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« Reply #433 on: May 08, 2018, 08:00:39 »
It's common practice for former Sec of State to continue communications with counterparts from other countries. Until Trump pulls us out, the Iran deal is current US policy, so Kerry is not out of line to lobby Congress or meet with European officials on it's behalf.

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« Reply #434 on: May 08, 2018, 08:30:46 »
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« Reply #435 on: May 08, 2018, 09:23:47 »
It's common practice for former Sec of State to continue communications with counterparts from other countries. Until Trump pulls us out, the Iran deal is current US policy, so Kerry is not out of line to lobby Congress or meet with European officials on it's behalf.
Wouldn't that be akin to colluding with foreign governments?

He has no role in the current administrations government, and is acting counter to what they are doing. His spokesperson has said he is in violation of the Logan Act, but it doesn't matter, because they don't enforce that law.

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« Reply #436 on: May 08, 2018, 09:33:07 »
Wouldn't that be akin to colluding with foreign governments?

He has no role in the current administrations government, and is acting counter to what they are doing. His spokesperson has said he is in violation of the Logan Act, but it doesn't matter, because they don't enforce that law.

If they actually pull us out of the nuclear deal, then it would be in violation of the Logan Act to continue to promote the deal or conditions counter to the administration.  But, we are currently a signatory of the deal and we currently follow the guidelines of the deal.  So Kerry is promoting current US policy.  Just because Trump spouts it as a bad deal doesn't mean we don't actually agree with conditions laid out.

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« Reply #437 on: May 08, 2018, 15:57:31 »
Just about the dumbest move ever!
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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #438 on: May 08, 2018, 18:42:59 »
One unilaterally put us in it. Another can just as easily get us out of it, apparently.


The JCPOA didn't address Iran's ballistic missile program. It didn't stop Iran's other misbehavior in the Middle East. Key provisions of the agreement expire after 10 to 15 years. And it rewarded Iran by unfreezing its assets frozen by years of U.S. sanctions.

It really was a bad deal from the start, though. Iran got their cake, and got to eat it too.
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« Reply #439 on: May 08, 2018, 19:56:21 »
Just curious, Stroker, is it a bad move solely because Trump made it?

It was a shit deal. It should have never been made to begin with.