New CL100 Owner
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iatethepeach
Coast to Coast
maxDTM said:
Thanks for the tip! I'll give it a try if further staring at the bike and scratching my head falls short. Maybe I should try softening up the front mounts with a heat gun before I install the tank.
budlite282 said:
Hopefully we'll figure it out. I'll post the solution if I come up with a good one.
iatethepeach
Coast to Coast
Hey budlite, I think I was able to solve the tank-fit problem by bending my one good rear-mount tab back just a bit and lubing the front rubber mounts. It's hard to say for sure since one of my rear tabs is broken, but it looks like it'll be a nice snug fit. When I got the bike the good tab formed less than a 90 degree angle. Now I'd say it's just a hair over 90 degrees.
iatethepeach
Coast to Coast
I think I discovered why my CL is a little louder than I expected, and why there's some soot on the crankcase.
iatethepeach
Coast to Coast
Last week the scrambler was on hold while I waited for paperwork and parts (mostly, replacements for 45-year-old deteriorated rubber). There were two major dents in the front rim, though, so Sunday I grabbed a beer, unmounted the tire, and beat the rim back into shape with a mallet and wooden jig. Although banging on the rim in the heat was a pain in the ass, it eventually worked.
Fortunately, the beer worked, too.
When I reinstalled the wheel I replaced the brake cable with a new one from Re-MX (awesome resource). It then became clear the switch was working intermittently- solder had separated from the copper tabs inside the switch housing. There can be no turning back!
Now that I've fixed that stuff, I can theoretically take this thing for a spin. Unfortunately, I'm still waiting on my antique title/registration from the state. If the tag hasn't arrived by Friday I'll trailer the bike to my cabin, where tags are sort of optional.
Fortunately, the beer worked, too.
When I reinstalled the wheel I replaced the brake cable with a new one from Re-MX (awesome resource). It then became clear the switch was working intermittently- solder had separated from the copper tabs inside the switch housing. There can be no turning back!
Now that I've fixed that stuff, I can theoretically take this thing for a spin. Unfortunately, I'm still waiting on my antique title/registration from the state. If the tag hasn't arrived by Friday I'll trailer the bike to my cabin, where tags are sort of optional.
iatethepeach
Coast to Coast
maxDTM said:
Haha, that's probably the right attitude. Surely no jury would convict me..
iatethepeach
Coast to Coast
Well, this afternoon I noticed the chain was contacting the centerstand a bit while I was pushing the bike around. I think I see why.
For now I'll leave the stand off, but the next time I place an order I'll add a new bump-stop to the list. I don't see it on the parts fiche, though. Does anyone know the number? Maybe I should just make my own.
For now I'll leave the stand off, but the next time I place an order I'll add a new bump-stop to the list. I don't see it on the parts fiche, though. Does anyone know the number? Maybe I should just make my own.
OK totally weird.
Not shown on parts fische but scroll down...Its item #12 , Rubber B, 95011 62000 (50524-011-000)
A whopping $ 0.87 cents from your local Honda shop. Actually this one is my local Honda shop.
http://www.sportlandmotorsports.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?section=2556934&category=Motorcycles&make=Honda&year=1970&fveh=132760
OR $8.00 on ebay. LOL
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-HONDA-MAIN-STAND-RUBBER-STOPPER-50524-011-000-/331474519225?hash=item4d2d6bc4b9&vxp=mtr
Not shown on parts fische but scroll down...Its item #12 , Rubber B, 95011 62000 (50524-011-000)
A whopping $ 0.87 cents from your local Honda shop. Actually this one is my local Honda shop.
http://www.sportlandmotorsports.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?section=2556934&category=Motorcycles&make=Honda&year=1970&fveh=132760
OR $8.00 on ebay. LOL
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-HONDA-MAIN-STAND-RUBBER-STOPPER-50524-011-000-/331474519225?hash=item4d2d6bc4b9&vxp=mtr
iatethepeach
Coast to Coast
trek97 said:
Good eyes- thanks, that was quick! If they turn out to be discontinued I'll check with Re-MX or make something, myself. The guy on eBay must feel very sentimental about his to be asking $8.
Ive never had my shop fail me. If they are listed w a price on the site...they can get them.
If your shop fails you. lat me know, I can pick up a couple and mail you one.
If you check w my dealer to have it shipped to you, they may be a bit high on shipping just that.
If your shop fails you. lat me know, I can pick up a couple and mail you one.
If you check w my dealer to have it shipped to you, they may be a bit high on shipping just that.
iatethepeach
Coast to Coast
Thanks! I just added Sportland to my bookmarks as "trek's go-to". I'll give them a try. My dealer couldn't get a front brake cable, though it came up as "available" on the parts locator. I got it from Re-MX at a good price. I've been getting my orders from them within a couple days of placing them, and they don't charge much for shipping.
I check Sportland first everytime. They almost always (99%) beat Ebay on prices. Genuine Honda parts and best of all they are 3 miles from my work and on my way home (no shipping) AND about 50 feet from the interstate AND the parts guys are freindly. If they have to order a part in, its usually two days.
iatethepeach
Coast to Coast
Next, you're going to tell us they have free donuts, too.
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iatethepeach
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I hope everyone reading this is having as exciting a Labor Day weekend as I am. Not only did I bring the scrambler up to the cabin yesterday, but the tag and registration arrived just before I took off. Score!
THEY CAN'T TAKE IT BACK!
Some of you guys said you really dig the Wincycle carb, and you clearly know a lot about bikes. People at the White Rose vintage bike meet recommend the carb to me, too. So on Monday I picked up one up. The clutch cable interferes with the choke on the "Sheng Wey" carb the CL's previous owner installed, which has been driving me nuts, and worse, the intake and outlet are obviously farther apart than the OEM Keihin's- this deforms the airbox connecting tube, pinching it quite a bit. That's just not smart.
PROBABLY NOT WHAT HONDA ENVISIONED
So I figured for less than $50 shipped, it'd be worth having one of these on-hand if I get to ride the bike this week. I think I'm glad I bought it (more later).
As soon as I got here yesterday afternoon, I unloaded the bike and went for a short ride. Much shorter than I'd hoped, unfortunately. The bike started out great but died less than a mile from home. Bummer. When I tried restarting it, it'd rev up for a second or two then cut out. So eventually I gave up and pushed it home. I checked the usual stuff: the battery was good, there was a strong spark, compression was OK at 130 PSI. For whatever reason the turn signals would occasionally glow in unison when the motor ran. Not knowing much about old-bike electrics, I decided to test the rectifier. It's fine. Next, since I'd bought new points a couple weeks ago, I installed them. I got excited when I discovered the gap on the old breaker was way too tight, but after installing the new one the bike still wouldn't run. Then I bolted on the new Wincycle carb. The bike fired right up and ran better than before! I grabbed my lid and did a 10-mile back-road loop. A few new issues became apparent, but nothing that would've kept me from riding more if it hadn't been getting dark and the bike low on fuel. Sweet!
This morning I was psyched to get on the road again. I added gas from my mower can and somehow the bike started on the first kick. This really got me pumped, and I set off again. Then, as luck would have it, the motor cut out at almost the exact same spot it did yesterday. So lame. This time I couldn't get it to run at all. I figured the mower gas had gone bad. So after I pushed the bike home again, I popped off the float bowl. The gas did look a little cloudy. When I removed the petcock cap it was full of sludge. That was a surprise. I must have pumped a hundred gallons of water through the tank after I cleaned it.
After I reinstalled the fuel cap and float bowl, I got another instant-start. Confidence restored! Before tearing up the driveway for the third time, I put a 10mm wrench and small blade/Phillips screwdriver in my pocket so I could empty the filter and fiddle with the mixture screw if I got bored at a pit-stop.
I'm not normally superstitious, but this time I headed the other direction out of the driveway. It worked! I made it about 10 miles from home before encountering a new problem: as I pulled in the clutch to stop for traffic in town, the engine revved up all on its own. I hit the ignition and pulled over to take a look. The top cap on the carb had loosened completely. I screwed it on tight when I installed the throttle cable yesterday. Have you guys with the Wincycle had this problem?
Last night I discovered the turn signals aren't working 100%. They light up, but slowly, then stay on solid for a lot longer than they should, then eventually start blinking but at an irregular rate. I didn't consider this a show-stopper for my ride today (since I now have an antique plate I'm pretty sure they're legal no matter how they behave, so long as they're on the bike). In traffic, though, they're kind of dangerous, so I was eager to make my way across town. Unfortunately, there was a big festival going on and the streets were gridlocked. In what turned out to be a bad decision, I gambled on a mile-long shortcut on the highway. I'd already had the bike up to 50 a couple times and it felt like it had more to give WFO, so I wasn't too worried about top speed. To be safe, though, I waited for a break in traffic before turning onto the road. Taking this little bike from a dead stop to highway speed was a lot of fun. Since I'm still on the old tubes and tires, I chickened out and held it steady at 55. Which turned out not to be for long, because a quarter mile from where I was set to exit the engine died completely. I coasted as far as I could but had to pull over at about the worst possible spot- right before a 300'+ bridge with a really tight shoulder over a river. There are plenty of heavy trucks on this road and they haul ass. My options were to 1) abandon the bike and phone for a lift, or 2) push it Usain Bolt-style across the bridge at the next gap in traffic. The shoulder before the bridge wasn't much wider than on it, so I was encouraged to act fast. I decided stopping with the trailer to load the bike later would be at least as dangerous as the sprint, if not more. So I went for it. It was a hair-raising run but I avoided the semis. Right at the end of the bridge was an exit and a nice shady pull-off where I could inspect the bike.
THE BRIDGE
I waited about a half hour for the engine to cool before removing the petcock cap. After the sprint across the bridge, setting the bike ablaze would've been too much excitement for one day. When I took off the cap, the filter was clean. That wasn't really what I was expecting. Then I started cursing myself for not bringing more tools. But at least I could have a look the float bowl since this new carb has that cool snap ring. So I pried it off and discovered the needle jet and holder rattling around in the bottom of the bowl. Hmmm.
MYSTERY SOLVED!
MY TRUSTY TOOL KIT, PERFECT FOR CHINESE CARBURETOR REPAIR
I'm lucky I had all I needed to pull the carb and reinstall the needle jet, though having a 12mm wrench would've been nice as the 45-year-old side cover plastic feels a bit brittle to be yanking without first removing the seat. It worked out OK in the pinch I was in. I guess I was a little rattled by the run on the bridge, too, because I installed the jet upside-down. Haha. The bike predictably ran like crap on the ride home but I didn't want to deal with the side cover, etc., by the side of the road again, so I rolled with it. It's sorted out now and I'm looking forward to another ride (with a more extensive tool kit) tomorrow. I know I'm not going to impress any Iron Butt members, but I'm pretty happy to have put close to 50 miles on this thing between yesterday afternoon and today.
Oh yeah, the bike is a blast! I hope I can fix all its issues (besides the self-disassembling carb and wonky electric, the gearbox is less than fluid). I think it put more smiles on my face in one day than my big bike has in 10 years.
THEY CAN'T TAKE IT BACK!
Some of you guys said you really dig the Wincycle carb, and you clearly know a lot about bikes. People at the White Rose vintage bike meet recommend the carb to me, too. So on Monday I picked up one up. The clutch cable interferes with the choke on the "Sheng Wey" carb the CL's previous owner installed, which has been driving me nuts, and worse, the intake and outlet are obviously farther apart than the OEM Keihin's- this deforms the airbox connecting tube, pinching it quite a bit. That's just not smart.
PROBABLY NOT WHAT HONDA ENVISIONED
So I figured for less than $50 shipped, it'd be worth having one of these on-hand if I get to ride the bike this week. I think I'm glad I bought it (more later).
As soon as I got here yesterday afternoon, I unloaded the bike and went for a short ride. Much shorter than I'd hoped, unfortunately. The bike started out great but died less than a mile from home. Bummer. When I tried restarting it, it'd rev up for a second or two then cut out. So eventually I gave up and pushed it home. I checked the usual stuff: the battery was good, there was a strong spark, compression was OK at 130 PSI. For whatever reason the turn signals would occasionally glow in unison when the motor ran. Not knowing much about old-bike electrics, I decided to test the rectifier. It's fine. Next, since I'd bought new points a couple weeks ago, I installed them. I got excited when I discovered the gap on the old breaker was way too tight, but after installing the new one the bike still wouldn't run. Then I bolted on the new Wincycle carb. The bike fired right up and ran better than before! I grabbed my lid and did a 10-mile back-road loop. A few new issues became apparent, but nothing that would've kept me from riding more if it hadn't been getting dark and the bike low on fuel. Sweet!
This morning I was psyched to get on the road again. I added gas from my mower can and somehow the bike started on the first kick. This really got me pumped, and I set off again. Then, as luck would have it, the motor cut out at almost the exact same spot it did yesterday. So lame. This time I couldn't get it to run at all. I figured the mower gas had gone bad. So after I pushed the bike home again, I popped off the float bowl. The gas did look a little cloudy. When I removed the petcock cap it was full of sludge. That was a surprise. I must have pumped a hundred gallons of water through the tank after I cleaned it.
After I reinstalled the fuel cap and float bowl, I got another instant-start. Confidence restored! Before tearing up the driveway for the third time, I put a 10mm wrench and small blade/Phillips screwdriver in my pocket so I could empty the filter and fiddle with the mixture screw if I got bored at a pit-stop.
I'm not normally superstitious, but this time I headed the other direction out of the driveway. It worked! I made it about 10 miles from home before encountering a new problem: as I pulled in the clutch to stop for traffic in town, the engine revved up all on its own. I hit the ignition and pulled over to take a look. The top cap on the carb had loosened completely. I screwed it on tight when I installed the throttle cable yesterday. Have you guys with the Wincycle had this problem?
Last night I discovered the turn signals aren't working 100%. They light up, but slowly, then stay on solid for a lot longer than they should, then eventually start blinking but at an irregular rate. I didn't consider this a show-stopper for my ride today (since I now have an antique plate I'm pretty sure they're legal no matter how they behave, so long as they're on the bike). In traffic, though, they're kind of dangerous, so I was eager to make my way across town. Unfortunately, there was a big festival going on and the streets were gridlocked. In what turned out to be a bad decision, I gambled on a mile-long shortcut on the highway. I'd already had the bike up to 50 a couple times and it felt like it had more to give WFO, so I wasn't too worried about top speed. To be safe, though, I waited for a break in traffic before turning onto the road. Taking this little bike from a dead stop to highway speed was a lot of fun. Since I'm still on the old tubes and tires, I chickened out and held it steady at 55. Which turned out not to be for long, because a quarter mile from where I was set to exit the engine died completely. I coasted as far as I could but had to pull over at about the worst possible spot- right before a 300'+ bridge with a really tight shoulder over a river. There are plenty of heavy trucks on this road and they haul ass. My options were to 1) abandon the bike and phone for a lift, or 2) push it Usain Bolt-style across the bridge at the next gap in traffic. The shoulder before the bridge wasn't much wider than on it, so I was encouraged to act fast. I decided stopping with the trailer to load the bike later would be at least as dangerous as the sprint, if not more. So I went for it. It was a hair-raising run but I avoided the semis. Right at the end of the bridge was an exit and a nice shady pull-off where I could inspect the bike.
THE BRIDGE
I waited about a half hour for the engine to cool before removing the petcock cap. After the sprint across the bridge, setting the bike ablaze would've been too much excitement for one day. When I took off the cap, the filter was clean. That wasn't really what I was expecting. Then I started cursing myself for not bringing more tools. But at least I could have a look the float bowl since this new carb has that cool snap ring. So I pried it off and discovered the needle jet and holder rattling around in the bottom of the bowl. Hmmm.
MYSTERY SOLVED!
MY TRUSTY TOOL KIT, PERFECT FOR CHINESE CARBURETOR REPAIR
I'm lucky I had all I needed to pull the carb and reinstall the needle jet, though having a 12mm wrench would've been nice as the 45-year-old side cover plastic feels a bit brittle to be yanking without first removing the seat. It worked out OK in the pinch I was in. I guess I was a little rattled by the run on the bridge, too, because I installed the jet upside-down. Haha. The bike predictably ran like crap on the ride home but I didn't want to deal with the side cover, etc., by the side of the road again, so I rolled with it. It's sorted out now and I'm looking forward to another ride (with a more extensive tool kit) tomorrow. I know I'm not going to impress any Iron Butt members, but I'm pretty happy to have put close to 50 miles on this thing between yesterday afternoon and today.
Oh yeah, the bike is a blast! I hope I can fix all its issues (besides the self-disassembling carb and wonky electric, the gearbox is less than fluid). I think it put more smiles on my face in one day than my big bike has in 10 years.
still running the old stock flasher and bulbs I presume? Probably as good as they will get.
glad you didnt get squashed on the bridge or burst into flames!
Sounds like a typical fun filled afternoon of enjoyment and learning to me.
Oh yea, and smear a little grease on the rubbers and side cover snapper things. It really helped w removal and install of mine. Even though still have to be as gentle as possible. Also, not slippery enough to worry bout them blowing off. Took her on the trailer to see uncle about 160 miles today between 70-80mph. Both covers made it there and back.
glad you didnt get squashed on the bridge or burst into flames!
Sounds like a typical fun filled afternoon of enjoyment and learning to me.
Oh yea, and smear a little grease on the rubbers and side cover snapper things. It really helped w removal and install of mine. Even though still have to be as gentle as possible. Also, not slippery enough to worry bout them blowing off. Took her on the trailer to see uncle about 160 miles today between 70-80mph. Both covers made it there and back.
