saw one on ebay , it was so nice ( and of course i couldn't afford it ) i just had to build one for my favorite person (ME).. i actually phoned and spoke to chris the guy who built the one i saw and he seemed nice , and didn't seem to mind that i was going to attempt my own... i don't know if it came off as nice as his but , not bad for a novice shoemaker like me,,, but don't worry chris , i'm not going to quit my day job anytime soon... nick