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Author Topic: Enfield Tracker: War Pig Rennaissance  (Read 53816 times)

Offline AgentX

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Re: Enfield Tracker: War Pig Rennaissance
« Reply #20 on: Oct 24, 2013, 20:48:44 »
Tom's got a nice peg mount design shaping up.

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Re: Enfield Tracker: War Pig Rennaissance
« Reply #21 on: Oct 24, 2013, 21:41:38 »
And the possible addition of the disc brake...

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Re: Enfield Tracker: War Pig Rennaissance
« Reply #22 on: Oct 24, 2013, 22:53:27 »
I see that you are using Ichiban's tried and true zip tie construction!

Only the green ones are good enough for a quality bulid.

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Re: Enfield Tracker: War Pig Rennaissance
« Reply #23 on: Oct 24, 2013, 23:36:47 »
All the work of fabricator Tom McVay.  I did set the test to see which color he would use...passed with flying, ah, colors.

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Re: Enfield Tracker: War Pig Rennaissance
« Reply #24 on: Oct 25, 2013, 07:15:05 »
Any reason not to use the electroless nickel process?  Hoping for some quotes next week.  Guessing they will scare me to powder coat options.

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Brings back memories of my own Enfileds back in the day ..........

One of the first things we did [ Bullets ] was to strengthen the rear cradle with extra tubing to tie in the swing arm / engine mount area. Enfields have a reputation for "headshaking" and some modern "Cafe Racer" experts [ ha,ha ] who have played with Enfields in recent years have complained about this phenomenon - and attended to the issue by fitting stronger spring forks and a steering damper !

Your builder will know exactly what we're talking about once he takes a look at the rear frame region - you can almost see it whipping about standing still !

The "new" powder coat proceedures to produce a "chrome" like finish seem to be working - maybe thre's a Nickel option ?

Now then - the address of that ex army salvage yard ???????????
« Last Edit: Oct 26, 2013, 06:20:55 by beachcomber »
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Re: Enfield Tracker: War Pig Rennaissance
« Reply #25 on: Oct 25, 2013, 08:35:20 »
Hi, Beach.  The added seat sub-frame should help in the stability dept., as it adds further ties between the top tube and the rear cradle.

Part of the issue with the TV segment was that the new "classic" (c5) Enfields speed-wobble even more than the old, possibly attributable to geometry changes induced by use of an 18" wheel set.  Enfield shifted to use of a fork with no axle offset on these and now offers them with 19" wheels as well AFAIK.

If you are heading to Hyderabad anytime soon I will be glad to guide you to Universal motors.  (By email--I have been outta there for months now!) :-)
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Re: Enfield Tracker: War Pig Rennaissance
« Reply #26 on: Oct 25, 2013, 08:38:35 »
Oh, and as far as finish goes, I have decided this frame is not anywhere near good looking enough to nickel.  Don't put lipstick on a pig... 

Whole bike will get ral6006 grey-olive powder.  Maaaybe I will matte silver the frame but unlikely.  Using a stock powder will make it easy to get a match on engine parts with Ace and frame parts here in RI.

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Re: Enfield Tracker: War Pig Rennaissance
« Reply #27 on: Oct 25, 2013, 08:53:10 »
So this is the machine that you spoke of at Barber. I like it, like its hideously beautiful. Looking forward to seeing how this turns out.
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Re: Enfield Tracker: War Pig Rennaissance
« Reply #28 on: Oct 26, 2013, 06:27:17 »
Hi, Beach.  The added seat sub-frame should help in the stability dept., as it adds further ties between the top tube and the rear cradle.

Part of the issue with the TV segment was that the new "classic" (c5) Enfields speed-wobble even more than the old, possibly attributable to geometry changes induced by use of an 18" wheel set.  Enfield shifted to use of a fork with no axle offset on these and now offers them with 19" wheels as well AFAIK.

If you are heading to Hyderabad anytime soon I will be glad to guide you to Universal motors.  (By email--I have been outta there for months now!) :-)

I'd still put money on the main issue being the weak support around the s/arm engine mount. Later Enfields [ Connies etc. ] addressed this point admirably.

My 1955 Track Bullet [ in 1966 ] had the rear end mods and ran Norton forks with no offset axle. 19" front 18" rear.

It would keep up with most mid pack 500s, but lost out ultimately in the bhp stakes.

I hear what you say about the frame finish - seen the bird shit welding on the NEW Enfield Continental GT ????
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Re: Enfield Tracker: War Pig Rennaissance
« Reply #29 on: Oct 26, 2013, 15:01:05 »
Clem, thanks...that's about what I think of it, too.  :D


I'd still put money on the main issue being the weak support around the s/arm engine mount. Later Enfields [ Connies etc. ] addressed this point admirably.

My 1955 Track Bullet [ in 1966 ] had the rear end mods and ran Norton forks with no offset axle. 19" front 18" rear.

It would keep up with most mid pack 500s, but lost out ultimately in the bhp stakes.

I hear what you say about the frame finish - seen the bird shit welding on the NEW Enfield Continental GT ????

Comber, the C5s have essentially the same frame as the older (iron barrel, AVL, and UCE) bullets, so the prevailing wisdom was that the additional wobble over the old models was due to geometry changes...I can vouch for nothing, having never ridden the C5/"classic" models.

I saw the Continental at Barber but didn't look closely enough at the welds to notice anything different.  Simply assumed the build quality would be as "good enough!" (India's national motto) as the rest of the bikes.  (India's second national motto should be "Don't look any closer!")  Too bad, because I thought the idea of a double-cradle frame might be one of the better aspects of this newer design...especially given the fact that this engine has not escaped the event horizon of its rather mediocre genealogy, despite the modest displacement bump and allegedly hotter cams.
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