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Author Topic: Am I the Pontius Pilate of this CX500?  (Read 4794 times)

Offline Odontologist

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Am I the Pontius Pilate of this CX500?
« on: Nov 07, 2017, 04:17:57 »
Greetings.
I'm a recent member, and this is my first post.
I have ridden bikes since age 17 and now I'm in my 50's and still riding.
I have never done anything to a bike, nor do I know anything about how they work.
I do however know how to read a manual.

I have had an itch to build a cafe racer for some time, and no amount of Sorbolene cream would satisfy.
I found a very decent 1982 Honda CX500 Shadow (Australian model), and set about the task of satisfying my itch.

I feel that this project will either end up something wonderful....or a total disaster.
If you come on the journey, you will find out.

I have torn down the bike and engine, although there was really nothing wrong with it.....but I was set out to learn....and I was told on another forum that unless I do things for myself, I'm a worthless turd (not exact words, but that's how I understood it).

Below are some photos of where I'm up to, and a link to more complete youtube videos if you like detail. I will add to the log as I go along, probably once a week as I keep working on it.

I welcome questions, although I need less of those than answers, and I am not thin skinned, so throw all your shit at me if you must!
But do it with a smile.
Thanks
Mario

1982 CX500 Shadow before the slaughter.



HAD A BIT OF TROUBLE REMOVING PIPES

STRIPDOWN PROCEEDS WITHOUT INCIDENTS



Haaaaaghhhh!....THE WIRING



GETTING THAT AIR BOX OUT WAS A LITTLE TRICKY.....OR IS IT ME?

THE LITTLE ENGINE.....WHAT DO I DO WITH IT NOW?



WHAT IF I PULL IT APART.....EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH IT?



COULDN'T RESIST THIS PICTURE. IT'S A GREEn STRAIGHT OUT OF SCIENCE FICTION.



OIL PUMP AND TRANSMISSION. GETTING IN WAY OUT OF MY DEPTH.




This is as far as I got with the videos. They take much longer to put together working on the bike.

THE MUCH TALKED ABOUT WATER IMPELLER. THIS ONE LOOKS IN PRETTY GOOD NICK.


ROTOR OUT AND LOOKING STRAIGHT DOWN THE CAM MECHANISM BARREL. VERY NERVOUS AT THIS POINT.



THAT'S THE TRANSMISSION IN MY HANDS. I THINK I'M HOLDING IT LIKE I WOULD HOLD A BABY.


I FINALLY ARRIVED AT THE PISTONS AND CRANK. THAT SPACE WHERE THE BIG END BOLTS ARE IS PRETTY TIGHT!


VALVES DISASSEMBLED. ENGINE PULLED APART COMPLETELY. WHAT NOW?
Run out of zip ties? Dental floss is an excellent alternative.

1982 Honda CX500 Roadster build

Offline The Limey

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Re: Am I the Pontius Pilate of this CX500?
« Reply #1 on: Nov 07, 2017, 06:22:37 »
I've a soft spot for the old plastic maggot. I'm in.
If it ain't broke, then I haven't been hitting it hard enough.

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Re: Am I the Pontius Pilate of this CX500?
« Reply #2 on: Nov 07, 2017, 08:13:04 »
I do however know how to read a manual …

A good place to start!

Welcome to the forum. This is the best place on the net for advice about pretty much any bike problems, and without too much in the way of ego issues.

Know next to nothing about the CX myself, except that the seat is one of the ugliest things I have ever seen.

Good luck with the build.

Crazy
“Ride like the Wind” W.H.

Offline cxman

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Re: Am I the Pontius Pilate of this CX500?
« Reply #3 on: Nov 07, 2017, 08:16:35 »
did you save the small oil metering orifice from the front transmission support plate

part number 4 in this diagram they escape quite easily and bad things result

https://www.partzilla.com/catalog/honda/motorcycle/1980/cx500d-a-deluxe/cylinder-block
1978 CX650 Super Deluxe
1979 XS1100 Special
1974 xl350
1983 cx650 Custom
1973 cb750
1980 cb750
1981 cb650
1982 cb900 c
1974 kawasaki 350 bighorn
1983 GL1100 aspy full dress
1983 GL1100 Nekid
and a bunch of others

Offline Odontologist

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Re: Am I the Pontius Pilate of this CX500?
« Reply #4 on: Nov 07, 2017, 17:36:46 »

........................ advice about pretty much any bike problems, and without too much in the way of ego issues.

............................ the seat is one of the ugliest things I have ever seen.

Good luck with the build.

Crazy

Yes. It seems the poor ol' CX is the Shrek of the bike world. Ugly such that only a mother could love, yet with a devoted following it appears.
I have been encouraged from the posts that I have read at the patience, enthusiasm and spirit of cooperation apparent in the responses. As an apprentice........I think I'm in the right place.
Thanks.
Run out of zip ties? Dental floss is an excellent alternative.

1982 Honda CX500 Roadster build

Offline Odontologist

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Re: Am I the Pontius Pilate of this CX500?
« Reply #5 on: Nov 07, 2017, 17:49:43 »
did you save the small oil metering orifice from the front transmission support plate
............................... they escape quite easily .........

Thanks Man (CXMan)
Good call. I did save the 3 oil orifice tubes, 1 at the transmission block, and 1 each at the cylinder heads. But I did lose a locating dowel for the rear cover. One stayed in the case, but the other went walkabout.
I measured the one I had and it was 9.97mm OD x 14mm long. I found one on ebay 10mmx14mm for a Honda postie but after looking at the Partzilla diagram it seems they are 8x14mm. I'll wait till I get ir to see if it fits.

That's a great resource. I had found David Silva, CMS and Wemoto, but Partzilla seems to have the little things, like dowels and Orings.

Thanks again CXMan!

PS: what do those oil tubes actually do??
Run out of zip ties? Dental floss is an excellent alternative.

1982 Honda CX500 Roadster build

Offline cxman

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Re: Am I the Pontius Pilate of this CX500?
« Reply #6 on: Nov 07, 2017, 18:53:35 »
that is not what i a m talking about the part that gets lost if a aluminum part it looks like a short bullet and it has a metering hole thru it

scroll down thru this you will see it sitting in a picture by itself and where it goes

https://motofaction.org/motorcycles/honda-cx-gl/replacing-front-engine-cover-what-check-honda-cx500-gl500-cx650-gl650/
1978 CX650 Super Deluxe
1979 XS1100 Special
1974 xl350
1983 cx650 Custom
1973 cb750
1980 cb750
1981 cb650
1982 cb900 c
1974 kawasaki 350 bighorn
1983 GL1100 aspy full dress
1983 GL1100 Nekid
and a bunch of others


Offline spotty

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Re: Am I the Pontius Pilate of this CX500?
« Reply #8 on: Nov 08, 2017, 00:29:40 »
welcome from sunny (today anyway) Melbourne, you'll find a few folk on here who share your unaccountable love for the maggot and have done some nice things to them. theres a few cafe'd ones getting round Melbourne too
good luck and look on the bright side, it can't end up any uglier than when it left the factory
short fast loud, three things punk rock and vmaxs have in common

south of the border, down melbourne way

Offline Odontologist

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Re: Am I the Pontius Pilate of this CX500?
« Reply #9 on: Nov 08, 2017, 04:18:33 »
that is not what i a m talking about

Got it. Thanks. I did save it.

Run out of zip ties? Dental floss is an excellent alternative.

1982 Honda CX500 Roadster build