I 100% agree with you. all of the first pics are birdshit-tastic welds with a 110 buzzbox using fluxcore. I can't weld worth a damn. thats why all of the real welding was done by my pop on a big miller 200. when i was just figuring out how things were going to be set up (mock up), I didn't really know if things were going to stay the way they were or not, so ugly weak welds weren't such a major worry, PLEASE learn from this mistake. grinding out a bunch of crap welds is not fun-especially when they are at funky angles and hard to reach. For mock up tack lightly but enough to know the pieces won't move around, AND definately spread the heat around. The miller 200 gets great penetration in the steel and the gas helps. I really would love to take a good college or trade class learning to weld, but life happens and i haven't done it yet. I pretty much hold stuff and my pop does the real welding. He's a gamer and has been involved in welding, fabricating, and steel product production for well over 40 years, and both hobby and professional wrenching also. I am really lucky to have him as an asset. Some folks get salty here if you mention something like that ("those welds suck" or "that frame is set up in an unsafe way", or "that paint might wrinkle if you try that") I say THANKS. someone took time out of their busy day to possibly help me and offer some professional or maybe even really good life experience advice on bike building. If somebody has some serious bike building knowledge and sees something jacked up-please throw a brother a lifejacket. I'm not saying be a jackass and throw me an anchor.