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Re: Honda Twins - Three Phase Alternator Project
« Reply #15 on: Jun 19, 2017, 13:39:27 »
Matt what is the anticipated ac voltage at idle?
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Re: Honda Twins - Three Phase Alternator Project
« Reply #16 on: Jun 19, 2017, 13:45:10 »
We're aiming for about 60W at idle. There are a few variables we can play with during the manufacturing process, and if the first couple of attempts aren't checking the boxes, we have other options we can try.
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Re: Honda Twins - Three Phase Alternator Project
« Reply #17 on: Jun 19, 2017, 13:54:05 »
We're aiming for about 60W at idle. There are a few variables we can play with during the manufacturing process, and if the first couple of attempts aren't checking the boxes, we have other options we can try.
We checked our cl200 and we are getting 15v on the pink, 9v yellow, and 5v white at idle. Pathetic. What does the 360 stator put out?


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Re: Honda Twins - Three Phase Alternator Project
« Reply #18 on: Jun 19, 2017, 14:01:37 »
The 360 stator is about 15% better output than the 200. We're aiming for another 40% over that.

It's all very rough numbers, though, because there are so many variables in place. We're also making the move to three phase instead of single phase, so that will probably have a significant effect as well.

When it comes to the windings, we have the option of winding in delta configuration or start (we're starting with star). Then we can go with more windings of a higher gauge (increased voltage output), or fewer windings of a higher gauge (better current, but lower voltage).

Lots of things to tinker with.
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Re: Honda Twins - Three Phase Alternator Project
« Reply #19 on: Jun 19, 2017, 14:03:30 »
The 360 stator is about 15% better output than the 200. We're aiming for another 40% over that.

It's all very rough numbers, though, because there are so many variables in place. We're also making the move to three phase instead of single phase, so that will probably have a significant effect as well.

When it comes to the windings, we have the option of winding in delta configuration or start (we're starting with star). Then we can go with more windings of a higher gauge (increased voltage output), or fewer windings of a higher gauge (better current, but lower voltage).

Lots of things to tinker with.
So needed!


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Re: Honda Twins - Three Phase Alternator Project
« Reply #20 on: Jun 19, 2017, 20:32:27 »
Custom alternator to run custom injection on an old bike? I love it :)

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Re: Honda Twins - Three Phase Alternator Project
« Reply #21 on: Jun 20, 2017, 03:01:48 »
Custom alternator to run custom injection on an old bike? I love it :)

Long term plans. We'll see how it goes, but it's nice to have a goal/dream.
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Re: Honda Twins - Three Phase Alternator Project
« Reply #22 on: Jun 22, 2017, 08:19:23 »
Matt we would like to test it for you. Have you seen this


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Re: Honda Twins - Three Phase Alternator Project
« Reply #23 on: Jun 22, 2017, 17:12:55 »
I need that machine.
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Re: Honda Twins - Three Phase Alternator Project
« Reply #24 on: Jun 22, 2017, 20:47:55 »
I need that machine.
I thought you might like that!


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Honda Cb175 Victoria!

www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=52299.0

Honda Cb200 Lucky!
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