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Author Topic: Too Much Technology  (Read 928 times)

Offline TripleKing

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Too Much Technology
« on: Jul 02, 2017, 22:47:53 »
I wrote an article, recently, for Revzilla's "Common Tread" online magazine asking: "How much tech is too much on your motorcycle?" I expected some, if not most, readers to appreciate technological advancements. However, I was surprised that there were quite a few readers who vehement me, one or two borderline belligerently, that they would not ride a motorcycle without ABS, traction control and stability control.

I am no luddite and like ABS and fuel injection on a daily rider, but some readers expressed fear of riding a motorcycle which relied entirely on the rider's ability. I was surprised by this reaction. As such, I feel a bit out of touch. What says the DTT community?

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Re: Too Much Technology
« Reply #1 on: Jul 02, 2017, 22:57:48 »
Meh, I'm not too terribly concerned with all the fancy do-dads. Are they nice? Sure. Are they necessary? Absolutely not. A lot of the tech has taken the necessity of a good bit of skill out of riding.

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Re: Too Much Technology
« Reply #2 on: Jul 02, 2017, 23:05:39 »
None for me thanks a good set of analog controls and skill will do for a cruise up the highway. Now if I were a racer you have to have tech to complete with the jugheads lol


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Re: Too Much Technology
« Reply #3 on: Jul 02, 2017, 23:14:24 »
I love new tech, especially when it makes bikes safer. I've never ridden a bike with ABS, but newer more modern brakes are often an upgrade on my vintage bikes and my '05 Ninja has fuel injection and I love it.  :)

That said, it's no problem to ride within the capabilities of vintage brakes, handling and engine performance. I think some rely too heavily on modern tech to 'do the work'. Not a good idea!  :(
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Re: Too Much Technology
« Reply #4 on: Jul 02, 2017, 23:48:53 »
I am with you. I like top-notch brakes, suspension, etc. to maximize my riding abilities rather than augment my abilities or cover up for my shortcomings.

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Re: Too Much Technology
« Reply #5 on: Jul 02, 2017, 23:50:19 »
Meh, I'm not too terribly concerned with all the fancy do-dads. Are they nice? Sure. Are they necessary? Absolutely not. A lot of the tech has taken the necessity of a good bit of skill out of riding.

It seems that many "modern" riders think taking the skill out of riding is a good thing.

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Re: Too Much Technology
« Reply #6 on: Jul 03, 2017, 00:08:09 »
It seems that many "modern" riders think taking the skill out of riding is a good thing.
It is, when you don't have any, or don't want to dedicate the time to gain it.

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Re: Too Much Technology
« Reply #7 on: Jul 03, 2017, 12:42:49 »
I like ABS, fuel injection I can take or leave, anything else is just a crutch for not learning skills and limits.
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Re: Too Much Technology
« Reply #9 on: Jul 03, 2017, 17:58:39 »
I thought the same, until I bought a bike with fuel injection and ABS.
Of course I'll ride without it. But I prefer to have it now.
It's a GREAT feeling to be able to grab a handful of front brake and not wonder if you're going to faceplant.
If I'm on a white line, in some slight gravel, on a wet road etc I can brake with confidence and not have to tap-dance around not slipping out.

To me this is pretty huge, especially considering I still have major hand pain from breaking it on my CB400F when the front wheel slid out on some random gravel in the road.

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Re: Too Much Technology
« Reply #10 on: Jul 03, 2017, 19:52:06 »
I wouldn't know because I've never had a bike newer than 1990.  LOL

I own and have owned only two motorcycles made after 1990, my 1991 TW200 (since sold) and my 2003 BMW F650GS (my current daily rider).

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Re: Too Much Technology
« Reply #11 on: Jul 03, 2017, 20:25:35 »
I thought the same, until I bought a bike with fuel injection and ABS.
Of course I'll ride without it. But I prefer to have it now.
It's a GREAT feeling to be able to grab a handful of front brake and not wonder if you're going to faceplant.
If I'm on a white line, in some slight gravel, on a wet road etc I can brake with confidence and not have to tap-dance around not slipping out.

To me this is pretty huge, especially considering I still have major hand pain from breaking it on my CB400F when the front wheel slid out on some random gravel in the road.

I meant more traction control, stability control, etc.

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Re: Too Much Technology
« Reply #12 on: Jul 04, 2017, 11:19:55 »
I meant more traction control, stability control, etc.


Gotcha. Yeah that stuff is eh for me. My beemer has traction control but I turn it off more often than not because it's annoying when I want to spin the tire.

The AT in the garage has adjustable traction control which is way cool you can define the amount of spin you deem okay before it kicks in.

It's all nice to have but hardly necessary, and that stuff really does trick you I to being a better rider/feeling like a better rider.

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Re: Too Much Technology
« Reply #13 on: Jul 04, 2017, 17:24:26 »
I agree. If I could tailor how much "assistance" each aid gave me, I would be in.

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Re: Too Much Technology
« Reply #14 on: Jul 04, 2017, 23:47:03 »
Technology has always met with the thousand souls appointed to guard the past, "Maeterlinck". six volt vs. twelve, generator vs. alternator, 30wt non detergent vs detergent multi viscosity, overhead valve vs. flathead, windmills, (props), vs. jet. I have a C100 dead reliable, doesn't need a battery, dirt simple construction, and modern oil to boot. The point cam has been polished to a 4 mirror finish,  NBU 15 high temp grease on the point cam lube brush. It will last as long as any CDI ignition. In the 40 years I've owned it, not one failure. The speedo is worn out too.

For want of a nail the shoe was lost, for want of a shoe the horse, etc.

I was happily riding my dead reliable Kawasaki ZX-14 when the battery just quit, stone open circuit...nothing. It was also a fairly new battery. So much for technology, it all is vulnerable to fail.   
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