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Author Topic: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750  (Read 84302 times)

Offline der_nanno

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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #500 on: Jul 11, 2017, 17:52:41 »
Niiice... what's the Eaton out of?
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #501 on: Jul 12, 2017, 05:07:57 »
Hi Greg

One is from an early Merc SL200 [ CLK similar ], generic to a few models at that time. The other is unknown origin as it came to me highly modified from a Ford Hill Climb car [ injection ].

They're all basically the same [ M45 ], just the intake configuration alters from model to model. The Mini version is very compact, and has the intake in line with the rotors.

It's best to check the various M45 units on offer to see which has the best layout for intake.

The Eaton is a good unit for 750cc - 1500cc applications as they will safely stand overdriving if required.

They [ blowers ] work really well on twins - I built dozens for myself and others in the 60's - mainly Triumph.

If you are prepared to wait, they are available for around 100 - 150 in good useable condition.

Only issues [ apart from rotor debris damage ] is the flexible snout coupler [ behind drive pulley ] and sometimes [ rarely ] the bearings.

Even slight rotor scratching / dings don't affect the performance much [ if noticeable ! ]

Both are a simple / reasonably cheap fix - MUCH cheaper than a Turbo rebuild, and simple to do yourself ! ;)

The one with modified billet conversion was from the Ford Hill Climber and rigged for FI.

« Last Edit: Jul 12, 2017, 05:14:11 by beachcomber »
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #502 on: Jul 19, 2017, 15:07:13 »
Intake for the blown motor sorted. Turns out I have the "large" intake stubs from the original bike.  ;D

Plan now is to grow a couple of tubes from them to a large circular plenum at right angles and have the blower feeding that.

Simple, and should also be efficient and compact - room is tight. The two separate intakes will also give me somewhere to plumb the NOS foggers ( 1 per cylinder ).

Any of my US cousins got a couple of fogger units sitting in the shed doing nothing !!??

I'll also be looking for solenoids etc. in due course.
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #503 on: Sep 11, 2017, 06:27:50 »
That's it ................... youngest Daughter Shelby finally got married at the weekend and I can now get back to doing "my" stuff.

The twin plug head is finally completed - needed a small amount of remedial welding on one of the top fins. I hope to have it in my hands by the end of the month. During the same deal, I will be collecting my late model engine and spare mule frame so I can mock up the blower and components on the bench while I'm getting on with finishing the rolling chassis.

So we should be seeing some progress soon. I'm still looking for some cheap used Nitrous foggers [ 2  ] and any solenoids, etc. I'm only looking for a 100 bhp shot as the blower should add at least 40 bhp. Also a used MSD 6AL or similar.
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"yep, nostalgia ain't what it used to be"

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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #504 on: Sep 11, 2017, 14:52:56 »
That's it ................... youngest Daughter Shelby finally got married at the weekend and I can now get back to doing "my" stuff.

The twin plug head is finally completed - needed a small amount of remedial welding on one of the top fins. I hope to have it in my hands by the end of the month. During the same deal, I will be collecting my late model engine and spare mule frame so I can mock up the blower and components on the bench while I'm getting on with finishing the rolling chassis.

So we should be seeing some progress soon. I'm still looking for some cheap used Nitrous foggers [ 2  ] and any solenoids, etc. I'm only looking for a 100 bhp shot as the blower should add at least 40 bhp. Also a used MSD 6AL or similar.


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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #505 on: Sep 11, 2017, 15:36:09 »
Now we're talking. Funnily enough, I've been going through old mockups today and will probably test fit something this weekend... (nope, not a blower)
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #506 on: Sep 11, 2017, 16:03:40 »
a 100 shot and a blower !!!   :o

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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #507 on: Sep 12, 2017, 06:05:06 »
I'm looking for a "streetable" 100+bhp [ blower alone ] ......................... with the Nitrous just in case. I'm always cautious when bandying "BHP" figures, too much BS out there. And that's another reason for having the spare bullet in the garage. The blower should comfortably lift the power to 100 - maybe in the 110 range depending on overdrive. The blower will stand 25% OD with no problems and still be streetable. The KZ750 motor is very well designed, with a strong bottom end so I'm quite confident it will stand the extra blow.

Greg, I'm always intrigued with your projects ! And I'm sure this one will be as interesting as the others. Watching your various projects reminds me of myself when I was a mere youth !  8) I always had 4 or 5 projects going at the same time, as well as building stuff for others.

CC, after all the dramas of the past 2 years or so - I decided that the "last hurrah" should be a good one ! The Tracker is morphing rapidly into the 60's Cafe Racer that the Vindicator would have been. I REALLY am coming to the end of my creative [ as in actually building ] life and decided I would go out with a bang - not literally I hope!  ::) With the spare motor / frame I had thought of doing a Tracker and a Caff Racer, but I have to be realistic. My main problem as always, is getting the speciality bits done. I have to pester  friends or wait until some funds come in. :'( A job that would take Greg [ for example ] a weekend - takes me at least 4-6 weeks as I'm at the mercy of asking for favours to be done. The head is one example .... through NO fault of the guy that got it done for me - 5 months ! he's relying on someone else, who is then relying on a third party - etc., etc. I'm NOT complaining . the head will end up costing me around 30, and most of that is carriage of jigs etc. ;D OK, there's a bit of bartering and swapping of parts going on as well.

Now the wedding's out of the way, and my daughter's 50th at the end of the month, I can get back to the mundane bits of work that don't require any favours / funds for the time being.

I thank you all for your interest and encouragement - means a lot. ;)
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #508 on: Oct 05, 2017, 05:48:54 »
Have you noticed that life is full of "good news / bad news" moments !!!  ::)

The bad news is that the guy [ Dave, recovering from cancer ] who took over my old workshop unit and had offered a space there to work on the bike while he made parts - has had a relapse.  :'(He can only work the odd day per week, which means I would have no daily access to the bike if it went up there-  and it's 20 minutes away.

And literally the same day I got the news, my old pal Brian [ also in remission from Cancer  ;D] said that he had finally got his garage sorted out - and had a KZ750 sized space where I could work on it ! 10 minutes away!  ;D

This is also the guy that used to build my replicas for his own clients AND was the UK agent for Russell hosing and had his own mobile workshop that he took along to Drag Race meetings ! He still has all his hosing tools and jigs etc, and even has boxes of fittings and the odd length of hose ! He is a meticulous [ almost anal ] worker and very good at wood patterns, which will be a big help when it comes to mocking up the blower , etc.

So, the plan C [ or is it D ?  ;)] is to get the bike off the workbench in my shed - remove wheels and accessories and the move the whole project into his garage. In the interim, I'll get my bike ramp cleaned up [ too dirty for his spotless garage ! ] and taken round there. THEN we can take the measurements for the wheel spacers etc and get the chassis truly rolling. First pal Dave will make the bits as promised - just have to wait until it's one of his "good" days. If that's not an option due to his health, I need to find another "friendly" machinist.

Getting the bike bits and work ramp round to his garage ALSO clears space to assemble my Engine hoist and stand - then work can also get started in earnest on my supercharged 2.3 Volvo lump for my 940 wagon project !! 8)

All in all feeling very positive, if a bit sad about my pal Dave's relapse.
"if at first you don't succeed, you've already been a failure once"

" we're not going back to the sixties - we never left "

"yep, nostalgia ain't what it used to be"

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Offline Alex jb

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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #509 on: Oct 05, 2017, 07:01:41 »
Great news (mostly), winter build is on then


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