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Author Topic: Powdercoating questions.  (Read 983 times)

Offline canyoncarver

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Powdercoating questions.
« on: Nov 09, 2017, 13:21:27 »
I've been calling around getting estimates on powder coating my YZF750 mag wheels.   The last place I talked to won't do them because of their insurance liability.  They say there is too much risk in possibly changing the temper of the alloy.   He tells me the OEM's use infrared to bake the powder.  No other shop I spoke to mentioned this. 

Thoughts?

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Re: Powdercoating questions.
« Reply #1 on: Nov 09, 2017, 13:56:42 »
I've powdercoated several aluminum wheels and am not dead.
I think they are being a bit overcautious.

To make 6061 into 6061-T6 you have to heat it to 1000 degrees for an hour, quench it, then heat it again to 400 for another hour or so.

I don't think 20 minutes in the powder oven at 350 is going to change the alloy matrix.

I have however been wrong before

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Re: Powdercoating questions.
« Reply #2 on: Nov 09, 2017, 14:36:48 »
When you say Mag wheels are you using that as the slang for aluminum alloy or are they truly magnesium alloy wheels? That would make a difference as magnesium alloy is lighter but way more temperature sensitive. I have had alloy Honda wheels powdered without any issues so if they aren't really Magnesium the guy was full of shit.
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Re: Powdercoating questions.
« Reply #3 on: Nov 09, 2017, 14:57:48 »
When you say Mag wheels are you using that as the slang for aluminum alloy or are they truly magnesium alloy wheels? That would make a difference as magnesium alloy is lighter but way more temperature sensitive. I have had alloy Honda wheels powdered without any issues so if they aren't really Magnesium the guy was full of shit.

Good point.  Alloy, not Magnesium. 
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Re: Powdercoating questions.
« Reply #5 on: Nov 09, 2017, 15:13:34 »
Good point.  Alloy, not Magnesium.

Are you sure they aren't titanialuminaferralloy?
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Re: Powdercoating questions.
« Reply #6 on: Nov 09, 2017, 15:26:28 »
Are you sure they aren't titanialuminaferralloy?

If so, can YOU weld them?
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Re: Powdercoating questions.
« Reply #7 on: Nov 09, 2017, 15:27:59 »
If so, can YOU weld them?

Sure can.

Weld er thick and grind er slick.

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Re: Powdercoating questions.
« Reply #8 on: Nov 09, 2017, 15:35:44 »
Weld er thick and grind er slick.

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Re: Powdercoating questions.
« Reply #9 on: Nov 09, 2017, 15:37:57 »
hacking is learning  ;D

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