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Author Topic: Ducati Mobster  (Read 12023 times)

Offline maxBetteridge

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Re: Ducati Mobster
« Reply #10 on: Jan 22, 2016, 18:15:23 »
In Newmarket then fella. Do you visit the Carbon Cafe?
Hey Kiwiguy, just started looking through your build, haven't get very far through it yet but I'm seriously impressed!
Yeah those pics are in Newmarket. I'm out in Mt Wellington though. I'm a big fan of Carbon Garage! I try to get there every second Saturday if I can too. Might see you there sometime.

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Re: Ducati Mobster
« Reply #11 on: Jan 22, 2016, 18:53:18 »
The first thing I started on was CADing up some of the bodywork too see if I could make it look nice from other angles, not just the side. I will make all of my mould plugs either from a laser-cut waffle skeleton or CNC it from foam or MDF. Either way I will eventually use these CAD models to create the parts.
I was able to find a model of the bike on Grabcad which got me started but I didn't trust it much. I know it is based on an older frame than what I've got and I know there are at least a few inaccuracies, but it was enough to make a start.
Here's a bit of the progression:


I worked out pretty quickly that having the tank drop down below the level of the frame it would need to be REALLY wide. It would be a huge part to make a mould for (too wide for any of the CNCs I have access to I think) and the top and bottom halves of the tank would be much harder to make and to make them fit together seamlessly. So reluctantly I re-caded it to follow the top of the frame and I think I have come to qiute like the new look it gives







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Offline maxBetteridge

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Re: Ducati Mobster
« Reply #12 on: Jan 22, 2016, 19:21:07 »
I bought a 3d scanner to help me build the GSX last year so I was glad to be able to make use of it again for the mobster. When I bought it it seemed like a bit of a waste of money and time but it was awesome to have it ready to go for this project :)

The scanner is just an xbox kinect camera connected to a pc with some free software. It works pretty well but lacks a bit of fine resolution. I have found that if you scan the entire bike it will come out quite well and fairly accurate, but the definition really suffers. To get good detail you need to focus on small areas of the bike at a time and stitch them together in cad later. At the moment I am interested in the details under the tank (battery, air box etc.) so I know how big to design my new tank.

Here's the setup:


And here's a scan of just the details under the tank:


And finally some more CAD with the new scan:



You can see the air box is going to have to go, and the ecu and bits around the battery will need shuffling around.





BTW if any builders around Auckland want to give the scanner a go just flick me a message and we should be able to sort something out :) The more use it gets the better.

Offline treitz

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Re: Ducati Mobster
« Reply #13 on: Jan 22, 2016, 19:31:16 »
Love the new tank placement and lines. This is going to turn out great.

Offline Weasel

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Re: Ducati Mobster
« Reply #14 on: Jan 22, 2016, 20:13:28 »
Impressive first effort. Looks like you started with a pretty complete machine. Smart move.

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Re: Ducati Mobster
« Reply #15 on: Jan 22, 2016, 21:57:24 »
Your use of the open source Kinect stuff is pretty cool.  I've got one I've been playing with.  Nice work.
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Offline kiwiguy

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Re: Ducati Mobster
« Reply #16 on: Jan 23, 2016, 17:19:36 »
Hey Kiwiguy, just started looking through your build, haven't get very far through it yet but I'm seriously impressed!
Yeah those pics are in Newmarket. I'm out in Mt Wellington though. I'm a big fan of Carbon Garage! I try to get there every second Saturday if I can too. Might see you there sometime.
Thanks mate, taken some time to get to where I am at with mine, but more about the build at the moment.
your tank and seat design is the ducks nuts, love the lines and the short kick up seat, very close to what I have floating in my head for my build. You have some cool skills with the CAD mate! Are you going to run the exhaust cans like that, have you thought about something different? Perhaps make up a 1 piece muffler to run up between the rear of the engine and rear wheel?? I made a new stainless muffler for a mates 1050 Sprint that would be about that size. Just a thought. Looking forward to this build fella
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Offline maxBetteridge

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Re: Ducati Mobster
« Reply #17 on: Jan 23, 2016, 20:46:29 »
I have been planning to keep the termi cans but almost everyone I speak to about it thinks I should get rid of them! I am planning on building everything on this in such a way that I can sell this one and easily duplicate it and build a second one almost identical. So thinking about it that way I would probably be better off designing it around a new set of cans or something custom because chances are the next one won't have the same termis on it.

Here's my problem; these exhausts sound awesome, I'm addicted to the sound and I think if someone takes it for a test ride the sound will really sell it to them. These termis are nice and deep and probably fool people into thinking it's bigger than a 400 (and considering the type of person who might buy this will be a learner who's not allowed a bike much bigger than this, I think that they'd like to fool people into thinking it is a bigger bike)

So if anyone can give me some advise on some exhaust options which will sound equally awesome and look better then I'm keen to hear them. I'm also very open to the idea of welding op my own segmented pipes in ss or something but again I'm just worried that they'll sound awful.. Am I right?


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Offline maxBetteridge

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Re: Ducati Mobster
« Reply #18 on: Jan 23, 2016, 20:52:28 »
I like what this guy did, they look like they're just the cheap GP pipes you find on ebay. Would you guys think these would sound any good compared to the Termigninis I've got?


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Re: Ducati Mobster
« Reply #19 on: Jan 23, 2016, 21:02:46 »
looks like a hand made tuned exhaust to me, If it performs then the noise is Ducati Music. The classic color is spot on badass.
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