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Author Topic: "the Mooch"  (Read 5628 times)

Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #150 on: Sep 11, 2017, 13:37:11 »
I suspect that Autocorrect changed DACA to DPRK in Tune's post.

Still doesn't make any sense!
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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #151 on: Sep 12, 2017, 02:18:05 »
I think he was saying that Obama's creation of DACA was unconstitutional and that Trump was simply undoing  something that he argues was not the way that rules should be introduced, so don't blame Trump for that.  I think that's the argument. 

However, since congress can't seem to get anything passed, what's a president to do?

It seems to me that times have changed and while congress was incapable of getting immigration reform done - it's complex - maybe the country generally feels differently now and maybe this time congress will manage to pass something.




Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #152 on: Sep 12, 2017, 10:10:30 »
OK, sure, I get it, but 71% of dems and 46% (a plurality) of reps support DACA. Fifty-six percent of the general population supports DACA, 18% support legal residency, and only 15% support deportation, according to polls. Trump campaigned on dreamers not having anything to worry about (add yet another lie, I suppose). And evidence shows that dreamers don't commit a higher proportion of crimes that others (and if they commit serious crimes, they lose their status and can be deported), and they work.

But asserting that it's socialism? How does that work? Asserting that because it's "nonconstitutional" it shouldn't be policy? Does every policy have to be explicitly mentioned in the Constitution for it to be valid? DPRK aside, these are things that don't make any sense.
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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #153 on: Sep 12, 2017, 14:51:40 »
OK, sure, I get it, but 71% of dems and 46% (a plurality) of reps support DACA. Fifty-six percent of the general population supports DACA, 18% support legal residency, and only 15% support deportation, according to polls. Trump campaigned on dreamers not having anything to worry about (add yet another lie, I suppose). And evidence shows that dreamers don't commit a higher proportion of crimes that others (and if they commit serious crimes, they lose their status and can be deported), and they work.

But asserting that it's socialism? How does that work? Asserting that because it's "nonconstitutional" it shouldn't be policy? Does every policy have to be explicitly mentioned in the Constitution for it to be valid? DPRK aside, these are things that don't make any sense.

Regardless of who supports what, it's Congress' job to pass legislation in regards to it. Trump has put the ball in their court.

Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #154 on: Sep 12, 2017, 16:48:32 »
Regardless of who supports what, it's Congress' job to pass legislation in regards to it. Trump has put the ball in their court.

True, to a degree -- congress will need to pass legislation or pass the buck. But the Trump administration is refusing new applications so it is already affecting people. And permits will begin expiring March 6, 2018, unless something is done. Imagine living here your whole life and not knowing where you will be in 6 months?
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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #155 on: Sep 12, 2017, 17:26:18 »
True, to a degree -- congress will need to pass legislation or pass the buck. But the Trump administration is refusing new applications so it is already affecting people. And permits will begin expiring March 6, 2018, unless something is done. Imagine living here your whole life and not knowing where you will be in 6 months?
I get that. That's the sole purpose of Congress. They need to do their job.

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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #156 on: Sep 12, 2017, 23:38:51 »



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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #157 on: Sep 13, 2017, 04:02:20 »
Master of the non sequitur!

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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #158 on: Sep 14, 2017, 09:10:40 »
Ope... y'all got the Pope on yer side now, guess you really want to wipe ass with our constitution now. ❄️'s and winters coming


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Re: "the Mooch"
« Reply #159 on: Sep 14, 2017, 11:13:45 »
Ope... y'all got the Pope on yer side now, guess you really want to wipe ass with our constitution now. ❄️'s and winters coming
I think the pope hasn't been happy with Donald Trump from day one. There was the whole sexual assault thing, the affairs, the unfettered greed coupled with ripping people off, the white supremacy, you know, the sort of "non-Christian" stuff that Trump does that doesn't seem to bother his evangelical base, and the kind of stuff that Trump supporters seem to be willing to overlook because he's done such a great job. Remind me again, what are some of his accomplishments? You're cute when you're all deflecty, boo! 
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