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Author Topic: New CNC parts line.  (Read 2377 times)

Offline jag767

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Re: New CNC parts line.
« Reply #10 on: Aug 03, 2017, 13:42:58 »
We spent some time hashing out numbers. Even In lower quantity we can make it work. I think there's more need for items simply not produced, which is where a bulk of our products will be to start. 3d printed fenders, fork braces,  3d printed side covers, perhaps with an updated design. Starting to see side covers become more popular again, and that's easy stuff to make. We are working on a custom set of drum hubs also, obviously that would be a lower quantity item, but there's an ass for every seat. Regular disk hubs are also in line.

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Re: New CNC parts line.
« Reply #11 on: Aug 03, 2017, 13:52:44 »
Also, not to be discouraging (for reals, I have a small CNC VMC and plan to build a CNC lathe center soon), but startup on these types of things can really pull a small crew down. In my case the crew is just one, but when I have issues that need troubleshooting or am just getting unsatisfactory results production grinds to an absolute halt. When I want to upgrade a system or make a major process change production grinds to a halt. And if you don't have things to sell but man hours are racking up it's especially hard to generate cash flow. Now granted, I don't do bulk orders or processes and have little desire to do so, but the point is that you are going to pay either way. Whether you pay a pro or you do it yourself there is a cost and it's probably higher than you think it is or higher than you think it's going to be. Then add sales, customer service, accounting, etc. on top of designing parts, running machines, maintaining a shop, eating, sleeping 3 or 4 hours a day, and it's not too long until things get pretty old. Conversely, if you do it for fun and turn customers away as you see fit you can avoid a lot of those stresses.

That said, I think there is a niche in there somewhere. I'd just try to establish that niche before investing too much time and money.
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Re: New CNC parts line.
« Reply #12 on: Aug 03, 2017, 16:56:35 »
Best of luck to you, Jag.


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Re: New CNC parts line.
« Reply #13 on: Aug 03, 2017, 17:03:15 »
Hardest thing for me, when I started building bike parts, was learning where I could charge more, and where I had to charge less than I want.

If you're the only one making something, make up for charging less for some other stuff there.

If you're trying to do your own variation of something common, price it competitively, or a bit less, and sell more. Downside to that, is more time committed. On the flip side, sell more, bigger runs, materials cost less per the more you buy.

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Re: New CNC parts line.
« Reply #14 on: Aug 03, 2017, 19:43:16 »
I think the CB SOHC is fading, seems the  KZ and GS bikes are gaining again and the singles in any configuration. The gull wing top clamp for GSXR and R6/1 is a good idea for sure.


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Re: New CNC parts line.
« Reply #15 on: Aug 03, 2017, 21:32:47 »
A double sided TLS brake similar to Suzuki GT750 would be nice but I think material costs and 'wastage' will make costs prohibitive unless you could get precision castings/forgings? (Hub is known to crack so could be a replacement market?)
You would need to be competitive with Fontana, Brembo, Grimica et.al
As for USD forks, they are pretty standardised diameters and only a few manufacturers for streetbikes (Showa, Ohlins, Kayaba) so a 'stock' size could be used with facility to bore 1mm~3mm oversize? Market is pretty large as they can replace stock item just for 'bling'
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Re: New CNC parts line.
« Reply #16 on: Aug 03, 2017, 23:19:09 »
A double sided TLS brake similar to Suzuki GT750 would be nice but I think material costs and 'wastage' will make costs prohibitive unless you could get precision castings/forgings? (Hub is known to crack so could be a replacement market?)
You would need to be competitive with Fontana, Brembo, Grimica et.al
As for USD forks, they are pretty standardised diameters and only a few manufacturers for streetbikes (Showa, Ohlins, Kayaba) so a 'stock' size could be used with facility to bore 1mm~3mm oversize? Market is pretty large as they can replace stock item just for 'bling'


You're thinking  the same way i am with a 4ls setup. I think it can certainly be done, maybe with a little better design. I love drums, and wouldnt mind putting some serious time into a killer piece. I know i wont sell a lot, but it would be damn cool.

Thank you everone for your input thus far. As we have parts designed I will keep updating this as well.

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Re: New CNC parts line.
« Reply #17 on: Aug 03, 2017, 23:20:30 »
There is a chap in the Phillipines building TD hubs. He list them up at close to $2K, and they sell immediately, every time.

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Re: New CNC parts line.
« Reply #18 on: Aug 03, 2017, 23:33:32 »
There is a chap in the Phillipines building TD hubs. He list them up at close to $2K, and they sell immediately, every time.

Thats very interesting. If I could even run 10 the price wouldn't be half bad I think. If I were to have parts cast I'd have to sell a ton of them, but I could really get the price down.

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Re: New CNC parts line.
« Reply #19 on: Aug 03, 2017, 23:41:52 »
Thats very interesting. If I could even run 10 the price wouldn't be half bad I think. If I were to have parts cast I'd have to sell a ton of them, but I could really get the price down.

He's casting them in house.

I've considered doing billet. I just don't have the time.