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Author Topic: CR200 Chopper Project by cyclhed  (Read 7274 times)

Offline cyclhed

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CR200 Chopper Project by cyclhed
« on: Aug 29, 2011, 02:31:50 »
I started (again) on the new chopper this past week. I got the seat post x-member and seat post fish-mouthed and cut, and also mitered the rear wishbones. I'm using the blueprint from the CBH for the CR-200 (Custom Rigid) with wide rear wheel. I'm using a 1.5" backbone instead of the 1.25". I also want to use a single down tube instead of the double tubes running up from the front motor mount. I'll bring the lower rails together just above the front mount and run another 1.5" tube up to the head tube.

I scored a vintage Randy Enterprises springer fork that is quite long, 34.5" from the lower tree to the rear rocker pivot, so I want to stretch the backbone and down tubes more than what the plan calls for; how much more I don't know yet. I need to get the rear wheel and tire bolted up and then I can mock up the front and get the look I want. I ordered a 18x5.5 rear wheel for the project and I will mount a 180 or 200 tire. I will probably run a chain final drive to keep it narrow.

The springer came with a 18 inch Hallcraft's front wheel and mini drum which I'm selling on ebay. I'll use a 21 inch narrow glide disc brake wheel up front so the bike will stop. I need to shape up the rockers, or build new ones as the original Randy's are a goofy shape (70's). I also need to find a 1"-24tpi die to fix the stem threads as some idiot beat them up for some reason - probably trying to keep the top nut from coming loose I guess.

I'm going to finish the welding jig as I build the frame this time also. When it's done I want to be able to cut, bend and prep the tubes and then be able to assemble them in the jig so they are held in place for tacking (and welding out).

I don't know what motor and trans I'll end up using yet. I would like a shovel, but will probably use an evo due to cost. I may go with a right side drive 6-speed trans also.
« Last Edit: Dec 31, 2012, 04:52:28 by cyclhed »
540cc CB360 Honda engine cafe' Project: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=39496

CR200 Chopper Project: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=28969

CL100/SL125 Cafe' Project: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=36548

SL-350 Super Moto-Sport Project: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=27751

Twowheelin' since '62!

Offline wixil

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Re: Honda 750 Four Chopper Project by cyclhed
« Reply #1 on: Aug 29, 2011, 16:13:32 »
What kind of shape is the exhaust in?  Are you planning on using it?

Offline cyclhed

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Re: CR200 Chopper Project by cyclhed
« Reply #2 on: Dec 31, 2012, 04:54:01 »
More pictures...
540cc CB360 Honda engine cafe' Project: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=39496

CR200 Chopper Project: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=28969

CL100/SL125 Cafe' Project: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=36548

SL-350 Super Moto-Sport Project: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=27751

Twowheelin' since '62!

Offline cyclhed

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Re: CR200 Chopper Project by cyclhed
« Reply #3 on: Dec 31, 2012, 05:00:24 »
The frame jig...I build this when I built my first frame 10 years ago. The frame is based on a '48 panhead rigid frame that is modified for modern width wheel and taller motors. It's stretched up and out about 4 inches in front and 2 inches back and down in the rear. You can use any neck angle (within reason). For this frame I will use 42 - 44 degrees because I am using a long springer front end.
540cc CB360 Honda engine cafe' Project: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=39496

CR200 Chopper Project: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=28969

CL100/SL125 Cafe' Project: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=36548

SL-350 Super Moto-Sport Project: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=27751

Twowheelin' since '62!

Offline mr95gst

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Re: CR200 Chopper Project by cyclhed
« Reply #4 on: Dec 31, 2012, 08:29:30 »
Subscribed!

Offline cyclhed

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Re: CR200 Chopper Project by cyclhed
« Reply #5 on: Jan 02, 2013, 03:24:46 »
Day 2: I tacked the top tube to the seat post. Then I welded two lengths of 1" angle to the cross bar on the jig to hold the seat post cross member in place. I then wanted a support for the top tube so I set up a length of 1x2 rectangular tube at 25 degrees from horizontal and used a 1.5" hole saw. I then sawed through the center of the hole. I will weld tabs to each side of the pieces and drill and tap them to make a clamp to hold the top tube in place.

As I mentioned earlier I am build the jig as I build the frame so I can reproduce this frame over and over in the future. I am going to make the head tube fixture adjustable so that the rake and height of the head (steering) tube can be changed for different degrees of rake and position. That's next.
540cc CB360 Honda engine cafe' Project: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=39496

CR200 Chopper Project: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=28969

CL100/SL125 Cafe' Project: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=36548

SL-350 Super Moto-Sport Project: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=27751

Twowheelin' since '62!

Offline VonYinzer

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Re: CR200 Chopper Project by cyclhed
« Reply #6 on: Jan 02, 2013, 08:28:28 »
Interesting
Like a river that don't know where it's flowin'
I took a wrong turn and just kept goin'

Offline cyclhed

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Re: CR200 Chopper Project by cyclhed
« Reply #7 on: Jan 05, 2013, 19:42:09 »
Thanks Von. It's fun as hell too!

540cc CB360 Honda engine cafe' Project: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=39496

CR200 Chopper Project: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=28969

CL100/SL125 Cafe' Project: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=36548

SL-350 Super Moto-Sport Project: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=27751

Twowheelin' since '62!

Offline cyclhed

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Re: CR200 Chopper Project by cyclhed
« Reply #8 on: Jan 05, 2013, 22:57:11 »
OK another update: Over the past couple of days I got the upright that will hold the back bone (top tube) welded in place between the jig rails and I welded two tabs on either side of the notch at the top of the upright so I could attach a U-bolt (which is actually a 2-1/4" muffler clamp I had laying around) to hold the top tube firmly in place in the notch. I realize that this upright is not adjustable for height at this point, but later on if I want to change it for a different frame I can make it adjustable. I'm trying to do this as simply and inexpensively as possible, so I am trying to use materials from my scrap heap. 

So after I completed that I clamped the tube in and lined everything up. I beveled the bottom of the seat tube and tacked it to the cross member. I then pulled the assembly out and welded it out on the bench. Next I'll attach the rear wishbones to the top tube and then it will be time to bend the lower rails. I may need to get some more tubing as I only have 10 feet left and I'm not sure if I can squeeze both bottom rails out of that or not. I am going to use a single lower down tube from the neck, so maybe...

I also cut and drilled some aluminum plates for the adjustable neck holder. I need to decide whether to use 3/4" round bar or threaded rod for the neck holder. I am thinking of maybe using round bar and  boring a 1/4" hole in the end to be used as a pilot hole for a hole saw for cutting the top and bottom tube notches for the neck.
540cc CB360 Honda engine cafe' Project: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=39496

CR200 Chopper Project: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=28969

CL100/SL125 Cafe' Project: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=36548

SL-350 Super Moto-Sport Project: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=27751

Twowheelin' since '62!

Offline bmock50

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Re: CR200 Chopper Project by cyclhed
« Reply #9 on: Jan 06, 2013, 05:21:36 »
Awesome work. What kind of bender are you using?