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Offline thrillseeker

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Re: CB360 project
« Reply #30 on: Aug 07, 2014, 23:28:48 »
The kickstart lever won't go clockwise any further. The spring seems to be working fine. Unfortunately
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Offline Alexpie

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Re: CB360 project
« Reply #31 on: Aug 08, 2014, 02:50:09 »
Does the sound follow the RPM?
 I had the same problem on my Suzuki and it was the kicker hanging as mentioned in the post previous to yours.
I just loosened the bolt pulled the kicker pedal completely off and re installed it to a few splines back it give it more 'clockwise' travel when in the resting position.   
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Re: CB360 project
« Reply #32 on: Aug 08, 2014, 23:20:19 »
Thanks Alex. I tried that but it didn't change.
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Re: CB360 project
« Reply #33 on: Aug 22, 2014, 00:16:01 »
I decided I wanted to keep a good eye on my charging system so I did the in-gauge volt meter modification. Should be able to test it out tomorrow

 


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Re: CB360 project
« Reply #34 on: Sep 24, 2014, 17:16:36 »
I decided I want my speedo back. I don't really like the oe gauges so I got these mini gauges from speed moto. They were the only place I could find the basic gauge in black without all the dummy lights. I lose my volt gauge but that thing's a pos anyways. Not really dependable. So I found myself relying on the multimeter anyways. The charging issue seems to be sorted out now too so I don't really need it anymore.




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Re: CB360 project
« Reply #35 on: Jun 12, 2015, 23:25:10 »
I'm pretty sure something internal is messed up with the kick starter so I decided its time to pull the motor apart. Yesterday I had some time and pulled the motor off the frame so I could begin disassembly. Today I was able to get the right side cover off and clutch disassembled. But when I started taking the oil filter off, I realized I needed the special oil filter tool so I stopped there and ordered the part from common motor collective. I also ordered a full engine gasket kit as well as a new timing chain tensioner while I was at it.

While the side cover was off I played around with the kick start lever a bit and was able to replicate a clicking sound. After I took the side cover off the first thing I checked was the return spring. It was in place so that wasnt the issue. I'm not sure if this is a normal behavior or not. Maybe someone here can chime in. After looking at the diagram of the kick start mechanism in the manual, I'm wondering if the gears are touching when they're not supposed to be.




Here's the video I took a while ago of the buzzing sound thats coming from the clutch while the bike is running.

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Re: CB360 project
« Reply #36 on: Jun 13, 2015, 01:31:05 »
Where's the spring on your kickstart shaft? You need to have it installed properly for the kickstart to spring back.

Snap ring could've given out on the internal end of the kickstart shaft as well, disengaging the gears. And pushing a bunch of metal crap into your crankcase.
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CB360 project
« Reply #37 on: Jun 13, 2015, 09:48:45 »
Sorry I should have stated in my previous post that I took the return spring and snap ring off prior to taking that video. In this picture you can see how the kick start shaft looked after removing the cover. The snap ring is behind the washer. I'll keep an eye out for the internal snap ring when I get this baby apart. Thanks.


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Re: CB360 project
« Reply #38 on: Jun 13, 2015, 11:15:55 »
The internal snap ring is on the very end of the shaft inside and it holds all the components from being pushed off the shaft from the end. When I disassembled mine, the snap ring was floating freely in the channel, not good. They've been known to give out and spew parts into the case. I replaced it with a new one. I bought a pack of 100, so if you find yours is worn and want to replace it let me know.
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Re: CB360 project
« Reply #39 on: Jun 13, 2015, 11:20:43 »
Okay great, thank you!


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Re: CB360 project
« Reply #40 on: Jun 13, 2015, 21:05:51 »
Splitting the case isn't a big deal.
Before I had accident an back got messed up I could do a runner to crank out and back to runner in less than 12hrs (about 6~7 yrs ago  :( )
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Re: CB360 project
« Reply #41 on: Jun 13, 2015, 23:53:28 »
Thanks PJ. I've been doing a decent amount of reading up on it (enough that my fiance is sick of me reading about "motorcycle stuff") and the more I learn the easier it seems. I'm being sure to be extra organized as well. I have pictures and everything I've taken off so far is in marked ziploc bags. I'm eager to get the oil filter wrench so I can get back to it!

I'm going to make sure to check everything I can while I have it open. I did check my oil filter and didn't see much metal in there, so that's good I guess! Any certain things I should give a good look over while I have it apart? I was thinking of:
  • checking the clutch disc wear
  • give the case a good cleaning, because I'm sure there is a good bit of metal floating around in there.
  • upgrade to a CJ360 oil pickup
  • drill holes in the clutch center. Is that something I need a drill press for or can I just put it in a bench vise and do with a hand drill?
  • make sure nothing else looks extra worn
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Re: CB360 project
« Reply #42 on: Jun 14, 2015, 14:15:09 »
When you split the case, make one of these:



Makes it easy to keep track of which bolt goes where and you won't have to think about it later.
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74 CB360 - Luna - http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=63294.0
82 GS550L - Tracker-ish - http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=67229.0 - Sold
74 XL350 - The Turd - http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=70252.0
Suzuki FA50 "No-Ped" - http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=71189.0
73 Suzuki RV125 -http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=73875.0

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Re: CB360 project
« Reply #43 on: Jun 14, 2015, 14:30:43 »
Great trick! Thanks!


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Re: CB360 project
« Reply #44 on: Jun 14, 2015, 14:37:46 »
This photo shows my current method of organization. Bag em and tag em.




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