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Author Topic: Shake the Box CL360 (HKY-378S)  (Read 24970 times)

Offline trek97

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Re: Shake the Box CL360
« Reply #45 on: Apr 04, 2015, 21:19:47 »
Since I built mine Ive always run 32wt hydraulic elevator fluid in the forks...by coincidence I am an elevator mechanic.

Recently talked w Sonreir about it.  He suggested "REAL" 15wt fork oil.  So, last time I stopped at the Honda shop I picked up a bottle of Bel Ray 15wt.  It is a little pricey.  But, it has made a heck of a difference.  The springs actually do work now.

Offline Ryan Stecken

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Re: Shake the Box CL360
« Reply #46 on: Apr 04, 2015, 21:19:53 »
Thank you hurco!how high would you suggest making it?i want to build a really narrow bench cuz my workshop space is just to small...

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Re: Shake the Box CL360
« Reply #47 on: Apr 04, 2015, 21:23:24 »
Thank you hurco!how high would you suggest making it?i want to build a really narrow bench cuz my workshop space is just to small...
Well I've seen ridesolo's on person, and I think 18 seems like a good height
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Offline Ryan Stecken

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Re: Shake the Box CL360
« Reply #48 on: Apr 04, 2015, 21:24:31 »
Nice thank you!

Offline ridesolo

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Re: Shake the Box CL360
« Reply #49 on: Apr 04, 2015, 21:28:31 »
Since I built mine Ive always run 32wt hydraulic elevator fluid in the forks...by coincidence I am an elevator mechanic.

Recently talked w Sonreir about it.  He suggested "REAL" 15wt fork oil.  So, last time I stopped at the Honda shop I picked up a bottle of Bel Ray 15wt.  It is a little pricey.  But, it has made a heck of a difference.  The springs actually do work now. 

I appreciate the input.  I'm using EX500 forks on this and they are in really nice condition so I'm hoping for a "one and done" deal on the rebuild.  If "REAL" fork oil is the best way to go I just want to do it once, do it right, and not worry about it for a long time.
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These are on a low simmer out in the shop:
'75 Honda CL360: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=56547.0
'70 Rupp Roadster: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=67459.0

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Re: Shake the Box CL360
« Reply #50 on: Apr 04, 2015, 23:39:59 »
The latest tank / seat combo is by far the best choice.  Tagging along for interest.

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Re: Shake the Box CL360
« Reply #51 on: Apr 05, 2015, 13:10:41 »
The latest tank / seat combo is by far the best choice.  Tagging along for interest. 

Thank you for that.  It's been a long process but I can't complain because when it's finished I believe I'll be happier with it than I would have been if I had just jumped at the first whim that flew through my little brain.  Of course who knows, maybe after it's done I'll sell it... I've always wanted a K100RS... (Is a BMW a good "bucket list" item?)   :D
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'75 Honda CL360: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=56547.0
'70 Rupp Roadster: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=67459.0

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Re: Shake the Box CL360
« Reply #52 on: Apr 10, 2015, 10:54:03 »
I got the chance to work on the paint on the bottoms of the forks.  They were in fairly good condition but had some scratches so I had planned to just scuff them up a bit, prep them, and shoot on a coat of black appliance paint.  The end result was very disappointing to say the least.  I forgot to take a pix, but the term orange peel would have been complimentary!  Parts of the thing looked a bit like what you get from the hammered finish stuff.  In the past I painted an antique bed frame w/ appliance paint so I am pretty comfortable w/ its application.  Anyway, I broke out the can of stripper and took it all off.



No, I didn't prime the first one, so as an experiment I scuffed up and primed the second one w/o removing the original paint. 



Here's a shot of both in primer.  So far so good.



And since I was messing around w/ sandpaper and primer I scuffed up the front fender and primed it.  Goodbye Kawi Green.



« Last Edit: Apr 10, 2015, 12:36:31 by ridesolo »
“Fight on and fly on to the last drop of blood and the last drop of fuel, to the last beat of the heart.”
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Please check out:  http://www.VetTix.org

These are on a low simmer out in the shop:
'75 Honda CL360: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=56547.0
'70 Rupp Roadster: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=67459.0

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Re: Shake the Box CL360
« Reply #53 on: Apr 10, 2015, 12:23:05 »
The fork lowers are looking pretty good and I went ahead and freshened up the bottom triple as well. 



Time for reassembly.
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Please check out:  http://www.VetTix.org

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'75 Honda CL360: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=56547.0
'70 Rupp Roadster: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=67459.0

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Re: Shake the Box CL360
« Reply #54 on: Apr 10, 2015, 17:22:00 »
Looks great man. I think you made the right choice by stripping it and making it right!
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1975 RD350 Road Racer: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=70652.msg833688#msg833688
1973 Ironhead Hardtail: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=68135.msg788081#msg788081
1976 GT250 Rebuild: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=64973.new#new
Full Custom Pit Bike: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=66954.new#new
1971 Yamaha 90cc twin HS1: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=70498.0
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Re: Shake the Box CL360
« Reply #55 on: Apr 11, 2015, 15:35:26 »
Looks great man. I think you made the right choice by stripping it and making it right! 

Thanx!  Yeah, it was a surprise getting a finish that looked like "Hammered Finish" when I didn't use that kind of paint!  Both came out pretty nice and the primer on the fender went down pretty nice, too.

I highly recommend the All Balls tapered bearings, but of course that would be no surprise to most reading this.  The switch to EX500 forks on the CL360 frame couldn't have been much easier, almost a direct bolt-up.  The bearing sets each come w/ two different thickness spacers to use if needed and I used the thicker one under the bottom bearing.  The Kawi steering stop catches it's counterpart on the Honda frame as it should, but if I had it to do over I would use the thinner spacer if for no other reason than for looks.  It ends up being a pretty simple bolt-up w/ no machining required.  The Kawasaki forks are a little longer than the original Honda, but I lowered these a bit internally.  Not much of a gain or loss in stock height except for the 17" wheel, but I'm gaining a much more rigid and, generally, better set of forks; going from 33mm to 37mm tubes.  Gaining disc brakes and more rubber isn't going to hurt either.

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« Last Edit: Jun 24, 2015, 23:02:33 by ridesolo »
“Fight on and fly on to the last drop of blood and the last drop of fuel, to the last beat of the heart.”
— Baron Manfred von Richthofen

Please check out:  http://www.VetTix.org

These are on a low simmer out in the shop:
'75 Honda CL360: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=56547.0
'70 Rupp Roadster: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=67459.0

Offline crazypj

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Re: Shake the Box CL360
« Reply #56 on: Apr 11, 2015, 15:42:29 »
Are the sprockets gonna line up?

Rearsets are gonna be nice.  They look both cool and comfy.
They look awful low to me
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Re: Shake the Box CL360
« Reply #57 on: Apr 11, 2015, 15:55:37 »
They look awful low to me. 

Yup, noted, they may end up being a bit low.  Once it's a roller I may decide to move the lugs up an inch or so.  Thanx, PJ 
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Please check out:  http://www.VetTix.org

These are on a low simmer out in the shop:
'75 Honda CL360: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=56547.0
'70 Rupp Roadster: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=67459.0

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Re: Shake the Box CL360
« Reply #58 on: Apr 11, 2015, 15:57:05 »
Try flipping mountings if possible, (swap left to right) although that may raise them too much
I would probably get some 3/4" alloy plate and carve out new 'triangles'  ;D
'you can take my word for it or argue until you find out I'm right'
I gave my girlfriend an orgasm the other night, but, she spat it back at me
 Some humans would do anything to see if it was possible to do it. If you put a large switch in some cave somewhere, with a sign on it saying 'End-of-the-World Switch. PLEASE DO NOT TOUCH', the paint wouldn't even have time to dry
 It’s not worth doing something unless someone, somewhere, would much rather you weren’t doing it  (Terry Pratchett)
CB360's,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11736.0
XS650,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11922.0

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Re: Shake the Box CL360
« Reply #59 on: Apr 11, 2015, 16:02:10 »
Try flipping mountings if possible, (swap left to right) although that may raise them too much I would probably get some 3/4" alloy plate and carve out new 'triangles'  ;D 

The right side has the rear brake master mounted to it so flipping wouldn't work... good idea, though.  Raising them would be a pain but very possible.   Carefully grind off the welds on the lugs, clean up the frame, and re-weld the lugs... X4. Oh well...
“Fight on and fly on to the last drop of blood and the last drop of fuel, to the last beat of the heart.”
— Baron Manfred von Richthofen

Please check out:  http://www.VetTix.org

These are on a low simmer out in the shop:
'75 Honda CL360: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=56547.0
'70 Rupp Roadster: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=67459.0