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Author Topic: Benelli Enduro to Cafe Brat  (Read 3968 times)

Offline TXBenelli

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Re: Benelli Enduro to Cafe Brat
« Reply #15 on: Nov 26, 2016, 00:03:01 »
Looks awesome Matt!

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Thanks man, read through your whole thread last night I think.  Looks like you're getting going just in time for winter. When your out riding next swing by.


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Offline NoRiders

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Re: Benelli Enduro to Cafe Brat
« Reply #16 on: Nov 26, 2016, 06:00:45 »
Liking this project for it's quirkiness :D

However, are you planning on keeping the seat as it is? No point mocking up tank profiles with that lump stuck on like that as it's throwing everything out in my opinion.
Ditch it for a slicker, cafe style seat and then you'll have a better idea of how the tank should look.

Even mock the seat out of card as well, you got to have an overall view and considered approach, just making random stuff one piece at a time might not work, especially on such a small bike with little room for error.
Get the proportions wrong and it'll look shite my friend.

Offline beachcomber

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Re: Benelli Enduro to Cafe Brat
« Reply #17 on: Nov 26, 2016, 06:19:18 »
And the best bit ? ............. Having the 5 year old being with you and the project ! Future treasured memories.
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Offline TXBenelli

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Re: Benelli Enduro to Cafe Brat
« Reply #18 on: Nov 26, 2016, 10:27:12 »
Liking this project for it's quirkiness :D

However, are you planning on keeping the seat as it is? No point mocking up tank profiles with that lump stuck on like that as it's throwing everything out in my opinion.
Ditch it for a slicker, cafe style seat and then you'll have a better idea of how the tank should look.

Even mock the seat out of card as well, you got to have an overall view and considered approach, just making random stuff one piece at a time might not work, especially on such a small bike with little room for error.
Get the proportions wrong and it'll look shite my friend.
That seat is history, I'm using it right because I'm trying to figure out how high the seat should be from the pegs and just keep a little foam between me and frame bars.  I have a seat loop coming from a friend and have to get it back to the shop where I'll sort out the back of the frame, plasma cut and bend up the seat pan once the real tank comes in and can get the shape and riding position right. 

I also still have the seat because it's got the only Benelli logo on it and I'll be adding that logo back on somewhere.


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Offline NoRiders

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Re: Benelli Enduro to Cafe Brat
« Reply #19 on: Nov 26, 2016, 10:51:39 »
OK  8) , good plan with the seat/hoop/height and logo etc .....are you fitting rear sets?

Clubmans with stockish seat height might result in a cramped riding position so placing the pegs back 3-4" would help with the riding position. Lower the seat foam any and you'll be in a fetal crouch unless you're only 5'6"  :D

Offline TXBenelli

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Re: Benelli Enduro to Cafe Brat
« Reply #20 on: Nov 26, 2016, 12:10:14 »
Rearsets or relocation of some sort is happening.  The rear brake is cable actuated so I won't even need to build linkage for that side just good cable mounts and the actually foot control to hook it to.


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Offline TXBenelli

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Benelli Enduro to Cafe Brat
« Reply #21 on: Nov 27, 2016, 12:38:15 »
As far as the shifter side for the rear sets I'm considering something unorthodox.  The shifter is on the right, brake is on the left so it's already backwards and I'm thinking flip the shifter 180* to point backwards since it's on a splined shaft anyway. So I went to measuring and figuring and if I flip the shifter backwards and cut off the factory main peg it land within half an inch of the same distance from rear peg.
Bolt is a rough approximation of where the shifter would end up, could be clocked slightly different depending on which spline position I use.

The biggest down side to this I see is upshifts would be pushing down on the shifter and downshifting would be up.  I'm thinking since the foot controls are all wrong anyway and will conscious effort to drive correctly, what's one more oddity?


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I may also add a plate under the rear peg stub to lower the peg and move it forward a little.
« Last Edit: Nov 27, 2016, 12:39:55 by TXBenelli »

Offline xb33bsa

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Re: Benelli Enduro to Cafe Brat
« Reply #22 on: Nov 27, 2016, 13:00:29 »
lol you would be changing it to what roadracers use so its only like, the best way to have it see if you are lent over in a turn trying to upshift on corner exit there may not be room to hook the foot under at lean
and upshifts are more easily positively connected wilst accelrating hard if you can just stomp down
you are taking all the fun out of that little bike you wont be able to ride it off road at all with what you are doing

are you doing all this cause you think it looks cool ?
to have fun on a little bike you want to be able to haul ass ride it standing or sitting

Offline TXBenelli

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Benelli Enduro to Cafe Brat
« Reply #23 on: Nov 27, 2016, 14:16:59 »
Order of importance to me.

Street use for short around town trips.

Acceleration between red lights not constant highway speeds

Fun on windy paved mountain roads

Yes, look like a cafe racer

Maintain factory suspension travel and use mild dual sport tires for caliche roads and national forest roads to get to the windy paved mountain roads.

Even the factory riding position isn't very comfortable because as mentioned it's a little bike. The leaned forward position is much closer to the GSXR I used to ride I always thought it was pretty comfortable.

It's very early on and I know this thing will morph over time as I sort stuff out.  But the final goal is still a street bike with traction on non paved surface.  If I wanted a dirt bike I'd use a much newer longer travel bike. 


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« Last Edit: Nov 27, 2016, 14:28:27 by TXBenelli »

Offline TXBenelli

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Re: Benelli Enduro to Cafe Brat
« Reply #24 on: Nov 27, 2016, 19:51:29 »
Tonight my only update is watching my son learn to ride.  We started him out on one of the little electric bikes just to work on his balance and handling for cheap and see if it's something he likes to do.


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Offline TXBenelli

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Re: Benelli Enduro to Cafe Brat
« Reply #25 on: Nov 28, 2016, 20:37:02 »
Bike is dropped off for the motor rebuild...and now I wait.


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Offline NoRiders

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Re: Benelli Enduro to Cafe Brat
« Reply #26 on: Nov 29, 2016, 07:29:53 »
...so do we  ;)

Offline TXBenelli

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Re: Benelli Enduro to Cafe Brat
« Reply #27 on: Nov 30, 2016, 00:16:37 »
So I watched a video about building a Cafe Racer and the mistakes most people make.  It said use photo shop.  Seeing as I don't have that, paint will have to work.  Tank might be a little long and seat is too short but the idea is there  think. Sorry it's pretty low res.



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Offline TXBenelli

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Re: Benelli Enduro to Cafe Brat
« Reply #28 on: Dec 05, 2016, 22:18:54 »
Heard from the mechanic and it should be back together this week.


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Offline TXBenelli

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Re: Benelli Enduro to Cafe Brat
« Reply #29 on: Dec 13, 2016, 22:11:27 »
After a hard time finding gaskets, a set from New Zealand is on its way to finally wrap up the engine.

I also get me piece of 1" tubing bent by a buddy of mine for a new seat loop and a nice fancy tail light. Tank and new tires will be in later this month.


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