canyoncarver said:So I did some digging. Spotify does download music but into a DRM ("Digital Rights Management") encrypted format that only the spotify client can read. So that's a big 100% FAIL in my opinion.
Irk, I know you are a music supergeek and I love the online music services for finding new stuff also. I've been a Pandora user off and on for years (in a pinch). I have Prime and I was an Emusic customer for a loong time but finally ditched them when they kept changing their terms of service, etc...
My beef is that if I'm paying for the music, I expect to have an offline copy that I can read with _any_ music player. Then I can put it on a thumbdrive to play in the car, play from my network server at home, etc...
SONIC. said:My question is why do you care? I have a Spotify player on my phone, computer, Apple TV, fire stick, most new cars, etc etc why does it make any difference if you have to use their player if it's available on every platform?
And with streaming you're not paying for the music, your playing for the right to use someone else's collection. 10 bucks a month is way cheaper than buying by the song. True you lose it if you stop subscribing but hey you can re-up any time.
To me it's a waste of time and money to own digital music. I own a lot of vinyl and buy a lot of new vinyl to support the bands I like but the majority of my listening is on Spotify.
Just Imo, seems like you're stuck in the day of the MP3.
I had a massive terabyte plus music collection at one point, all gone now since it's all on Spotify whenever I want it and I don't have to store it. The rare stuff or the bands I care about enough to give my hard earned money to directly I have on vinyl
canyoncarver said:Sonic, you make some valid points from your own perspective. Mine is a bit different. I don't consider it a waste of time or space to store digital content that I've collected. I do use some "cloud" services but never as a replacement for my own local data backups. Perhaps I'm stuck in the past but I grew up listening to music without the internet and I don't think I fit the average internet user demographic. I'm a glorified "internet plumber" in my day job so I know in ridiculous detail how fragile the internet and its apps can be and especially how it all works under the hood. Apps are minimized GUI's (graphical user interfaces)that are a facade in front of the real data. I'm used to and strongly prefer accessing real data, not what some developer and sales team decide that I get to see. I also run Linux on all my PC's, not Windows or Mac stuff so support for streaming clients on Linux clients is often "good luck". Yes spotify has Linux clients but they are not official clients and from the forums, it has numerous problems. Just because it's available on Android and Ios, doesn't really solve my problems. It still means you have to have an "app" for it. That's just annoying to me. Both my main vehicles have USB ports for the audio systems, I dig that very much. Unlocking my phone, monkeying with an app, connecting bluetooth every time you start the car, etc...... just screw that... I guess I'm a curmudgeon .
SONIC. said:So who bought something new? Enough sidetrack lol
SONIC. said:So who bought something new? Enough sidetrack lol
Sav0r said:I was given this mill, the catch being it's in Toronto in my friends art gallery until I can get there to pick it up.
It needs linear rails, a XY saddle, a spindle and carriage, steppers, ballscrews and nuts, and an enclosure and stand. I have a controller already that is appropriate for controlling it. Lot's of work ahead, hell, I have to renew my passport to pick it up, but for free I couldn't pass it up.
For the record: every time you stream an artist's song, they get paid. So, for the artist, it's more of a financial benefit for them when you stream music. Depending on the platform, that payment can be anywhere from .02 cents up to 35 cents per stream.canyoncarver said:I don't consider it a waste of time or space to store digital content that I've collected.
SONIC. said:Yikes that is a project.
You'd likely do better to find a used one with more parts than to buy parts outright.
What is it exactly?
Actually, that's not true. Labels loan bands money with an expected return. It's not uncommon for bands to fail indebted to the label because their tours didn't sell enough, or they didn't move enough sales. On top of that, labels will decide not to push a record for a number of reasons that often have nothing to do with the band itself. Very rarely does a band get rich off of one album. Most don't make a dime of their own money until the second or third release. The huge star that blows up is rare.Sav0r said:Spotify absolutely pays terrible. Other streaming services do better, but albums and concert tickets pay the best.
https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2018/01/16/streaming-music-services-pay-2018/
http://musically.com/2017/01/17/new-figures-show-per-stream-payouts-from-spotify-apple-music-youtube-and-more/
1fasgsxr said:Figured I would give one a try
1fasgsxr said:Figured I would give one a try
sbaugz said:penis pump?