grcamna5 said:What a great 'Find' on CL ! I'd love to find an SR500
What did you do with your stock SR500 carb.,still got it?
DohcBikes said:You've got to redo that rear frame section. Longer shocks are not the answer.
Theres a billion things that bike needs before a brat seat.
DohcBikes said:I really dont see what people dont understand about the fact that the factory seat brace is built in the shape of a trapezoid that rides over the frame rails like a bridge. They all cut it out but none seem to ask why it might be built that way.
My recommendation is to think about that and come up with your own solution. Tire clearance is not a complicated concept. When shocks are at full compression the tire still needs around an inch of clearance after that. You're at least 3 inches short.
The sr500 is best suited for passengers with the stock seat.
This is a serious question, since you said you cannot be offended. I need to ask somebody before I go crazy with this seat bullshit.
What made you think that 2 inches of clearance would be enough? Do you understand ANYTHING about how a motorcycle works? This is actually just common sense, so why cant you look at that setup and immediately know that it is wrong? What makes you think adding a person on the very end of the lever in question wont make things even worse? I mean, I highly doubt you could both even sit on that bike now at rest without the tire touching something, so where is the tire going to go when the suspension cycles?
Yes, that is all one question. No, I do not mean to offend you. To be honest, if you or others are offended by my question, then i am offended by your actions in the first place. There are those of us out here that can do that for you, if you don't know what you are doing. Furthermore, that mistake is by FAR the most common and most talked about mistake here, and I have no fucking clue how anyone could make it without completely ignoring a large amount of the information that is available to them.
You sure, no hurt feelings? Good, then get your head together and build it right. The only way to fail is to give up.
Actually it probably isnt hurting it either. Just because the shocks look worn doesnt mean the springs are sagging.Nj732port said:Those shocks came with the bike i'm guessing they are stock but they are also shot so that's not helping out the clearance at all,
You should have known before. You obviously did not study the construction and function of the frame before you got the idea that you had the skill to modify it correctly. It's the ol trying to walk before you learn to crawl idea. You must first understand basic concepts before complicating things.Nj732port said:once the seat hoop was welded up i knew i had clearance issues
You need to find a stock sr500 now, and measure the minimum stock clearance at rest. If you don't do the work to find this number I'm not going to continue with any advice. It may seem unneccessary to you or others, but its fundamental to my participation at this point. I do not let people cheat off my test answers, you either learn or you get nothing from me.Nj732port said:moving forward i was thinking of stock size hagon shocks but that wont help out with the clearance because the part that i cut off was angled up to allow plenty of room for suspension travel.
Who cares. You don't know the first thing about it so looking at pictures tells you nothing. The vast majority of hobby builders will LIE LIE LIE about the issues their bike still has after building it.Nj732port said:most of the other SR's i have seen have shorter seats so it looks like the kicked up part of the hoop allows for the proper clearance..........
Yes I know.Nj732port said:so i think the answer to your question would be, i threw the hoop on thinking it would just work!
Not really. It's simple to some and confusing to others.Nj732port said:now i know that there is a ton of black magic involved in motorcycle modification
There's still time for that.Nj732port said:and nope still not offended
DohcBikes said:Actually it probably isnt hurting it either. Just because the shocks look worn doesnt mean the springs are sagging.
You should have known before. You obviously did not study the construction and function of the frame before you got the idea that you had the skill to modify it correctly. It's the ol trying to walk before you learn to crawl idea. You must first understand basic concepts before complicating things.
You need to find a stock sr500 now, and measure the minimum stock clearance at rest. If you don't do the work to find this number I'm not going to continue with any advice. It may seem unneccessary to you or others, but its fundamental to my participation at this point. I do not let people cheat off my test answers, you either learn or you get nothing from me.
Who cares. You don't know the first thing about it so looking at pictures tells you nothing. The vast majority of hobby builders will LIE LIE LIE about the issues their bike still has after building it.
Yes I know.
Not really. It's simple to some and confusing to others.
For example, you wont catch me trying to play guitar, or knit a sweater, but some people make it look easy.
There's still time for that.
Focus on other things. The seat can be done nearly last. You have a lot of other stuff to work on and research.
DohcBikes said:If clearance and travel were the same thing they would be spelled the same.
Yes, as I clearly described, I would like you to know the measurement of the stock clearance at static height. Static means at rest with no rider.
Yes you can use the old subframe section to determine the measurement.Nj732port said:does this number need to be exact? or just pretty damn close? I have the rear subframe that I chopped off laying on my floor somewhere I can match it up to where it used to be and take the measurement...I was thinking maybe maybe clearance and travel were like car and automobile ya know same shit different spellings or corn and maize ;D
sick good thing I hung on to that chunk of metal, I'll post the measurement tonight... I wish there were better emojis on here!DohcBikes said:Yes you can use the old subframe section to determine the measurement.
DohcBikes said:Ok so the fix is obvious now right
Lift kits are for 4x4 trucks.Nj732port said:I obviously need more clearance but I obviously do not know how to get it... didn't we figure that part out already ....while searching I found a million people with the same issue but no real responses of how to fix it I did read a response that said longer shocks won't effect too much as long as they are only a couple inches longer. Then I read about spacers to stop the shock from fully compressing and I also saw some stuff about stiffer shocks but I don't want the ride to be terrible so I'd rather not do some drastic stiff shock.
DohcBikes said:Lift kits are for 4x4 trucks.
You will need to address the incorrect fabrication issue with fabrication.