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Blood Sweat Tears and Grease => Projects => Trackers => Topic started by: NoRiders on Dec 03, 2015, 13:37:24

Title: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 03, 2015, 13:37:24
Hi everyone, Newbie checking in. Just though to share my project with the DTT collective as I am keen to gain knowledge and critique from those what do this better than what I does.

My name is Colin,I'm 56 and live in UK nr Oxford. I run my own business as well as paint and decorate for a living. I am into classic VW aircooled vehicles, attend VW events with my club buddies and live with meJoolia and 3x cats.

So, I've owned a perfectly stock Honda CBX550 since the mid 90's and rode it for over a year as my daily. It came to me with a Givi top box and rode nicely once I stuck a Bridgestone tyre on the front. The shonky Shinko on the rear never inspired confidence but at the time I was on a very limited budget to it stayed. It last ran on the road in 2003 when I moved house and rode it there.

Fast forward to 2014 and I had a hankering to throw a leg over it again. I never got rid and I always liked to say I have a bike haha!

Now, what to do with a 27K running bike that looks dated, had no special interest, not a collectors piece and not worth much....hmmmm?? I'd began to notice an undercurrent within the biking scene that didn't apply to modern sports bikes, or neither streetfighters....brat bikes were out n about. I liked the look and ethics and, as much as I don't want a beard, I liked the rebellious side to modifying a bike along retro lines with a modern take on certain aspects of the build.

This was how my Brat on a Budget project was born.

Here's it as was:

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20141012_153730_zpsd3c9c516.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20141012_153730_zpsd3c9c516.jpg.html)

an early influencer...

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/Honda-brat1_zps0b28759d.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/Honda-brat1_zps0b28759d.jpg.html)

..a bit dusty, but all there.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20141012_153739_zps547b0234.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20141012_153739_zps547b0234.jpg.html)

Now I should've started it, but I know this trusty old Honda runs just fine so a got right into the breakdown.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20141017_190332_zps126fa2e2.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20141017_190332_zps126fa2e2.jpg.html)

That's a mocked up seat to give me an idea it was going to look right....it looks right ;-)

Got to tidy this mess up...

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20141017_195518_zps0c3bd444.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20141017_195518_zps0c3bd444.jpg.html)

The usual bucket of grubby parts to clean....

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20141019_192838_zps7a7189fe.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20141019_192838_zps7a7189fe.jpg.html)

...some of the grubby parts cleaned :-)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20141019_192805_zps2ededf45.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20141019_192805_zps2ededf45.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20141023_115215_zps210eb3cf.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20141023_115215_zps210eb3cf.jpg.html)

More to follow....
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 03, 2015, 13:54:33
Con't...

Modified the seat a touch, mocked up the subframe U section and hung a small rear light to get the feel....starting to see the potential now.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20141107_194628_zps86ab1e61.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20141107_194628_zps86ab1e61.jpg.html)

Seat hump in place, ready to be welded. I found a good used MIG locally for not a lot which will do for me to learn on.

I love a bit of detailing, so I replaced the rusty metal grill with a punched stainless grill and painted the brake/hubs in rattle can 'stainless steel' wheel paint....this is on a budget after all!

This bike is closer to the look I'm going for....

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/Triumph-Thruxton-Mighty-Blue_zps69bdaa3a.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/Triumph-Thruxton-Mighty-Blue_zps69bdaa3a.jpg.html)

So I ordered these....

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/Heidenau_zps7cb5cb0d.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/Heidenau_zps7cb5cb0d.jpg.html)
..but after a major let down by the supplier, I settled on MEFO Sport from Zenoverland, highly recommended by the staff who actually use these tyres.

ZEN Link: http://www.zenoverland.com/tyres_tubes/mefo_explorer.html

Here's a detailed view of the punched s/s grills on the brake hub/cover....turned out nice I think.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20141116_182728_zps1157a3cd.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20141116_182728_zps1157a3cd.jpg.html)

I want the bike to have a level of practicality so have decided to retain the chain guard...but funk it up a bit.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20141116_182834_zpsd07e65ec.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20141116_182834_zpsd07e65ec.jpg.html)

I'm going for drilled holes along the entire length and sprayed satin black. Not done it yet.

Coated the 4-1 zorst with BBQ paint....man, I should've read the manual, it required the paint to be 'cured' at very hight temps. Easy if the bike was running....I had to use a 500w worklamp to get it hot enough to dry it at least!

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/ARoyalCounty28-11-14004_zps17b649e0.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/ARoyalCounty28-11-14004_zps17b649e0.jpg.html)

Wrapped the down pipes in two different coloured wrap...I was trying to make it look like a twin by highlighting the outside pipes and using black on the inner pipes, but it didn't work out.

Some of the other parts came out nice though.

Been reading about a jet kit for the Keihins to make them deliver smoother power, got this on my watch list.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/Keihinjetkit_zps14dca978.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/Keihinjetkit_zps14dca978.jpg.html)

More to follow....



Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 04, 2015, 11:36:48
Although I love the original tank, and it's in great condition I thought it too good for this project. Sniffed out a 500/4 tank with flip filler, slabsides and horizontal lower seam.

Rough but complete with petcock and sits in place just fine.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20141207_223932_zpsece7dc76.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20141207_223932_zpsece7dc76.jpg.html)

Stripped the multiple layers of paint, including a flamed paint job...so it's been customised before.

During...

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20150109_162505_zpsed14af99.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20150109_162505_zpsed14af99.jpg.html)

..and with a generous coating or three of rattlecan high build..

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20150110_171711_zps16a6acc8.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20150110_171711_zps16a6acc8.jpg.html)

..nice n slim. I like the engine covers poking out a touch.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20150201_144115_zps0bceee73.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20150201_144115_zps0bceee73.jpg.html)

I plan to rattlecan paint it with a few flourishes here and there to finish the look.

More to follow....

Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 05, 2015, 15:37:37
Slightly out of sync...but thought I'd share my most excellent day out at Kempton Pk, Surrey, despite the frantic wind, was as good as ever. Loads of good stuff to be had and keen prices to be haggled.

This is my swag for the day....

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20151205_190410_zpstzicbrjx.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20151205_190410_zpstzicbrjx.jpg.html)

DOH....I missed out a picture of three s/s dome nuts for the speedo refurb...I'm sure you don't need to see them!

Gloves - Richer brown summer gloves with snap tab = 10

Honda speedo circa 1978-90 Inc mounting plate) ideal size, needs an easy refurb = 10
Dome nuts(x3) = 4
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20151205_190435_zpsxwhniha6.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20151205_190435_zpsxwhniha6.jpg.html)

Aluminium front mudguard (used) = 10
Chrome guard hanger = 10
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20151205_191035_zpsoxvmbnma.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20151205_191035_zpsoxvmbnma.jpg.html)

Athena pattern fork seal kit = 10

Zorst gasket rings = 6

All in all, a very good day out. Thank you Kempton Pk Auto Jumble.

Well worth the early start to brave the biting breeze. Saw some awesome old Montesa, Ossa, Triumph, Matchless, Ducati & Yamaha scramblers/trials bikes.....if only I had the money and space to use them. There were some 'for sale' and others in the indoor show n shine.

Next job - strip and refurb forks....ooeerrr :-/
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 05, 2015, 16:36:13
Alright, alright........I'll show you all my secret snaffle. 5 of our English s secured me this little treasure which I will suspend from the rear seat subframe in an adventurer fashion.

Handy place for my TicTac and playing card survival kit....heheh!

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20151205_201059_zpsbuxinhpx.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20151205_201059_zpsbuxinhpx.jpg.html)

For scale and interest...

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20151205_201119_zpska2lfudh.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20151205_201119_zpska2lfudh.jpg.html)

The back..

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20151205_201303_zpsuvkw8q3d.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20151205_201303_zpsuvkw8q3d.jpg.html)

The seller thought it might be German?? All I know is it's cool and will look very smart in place methinks. Hope you all like as well?

Thanks for checking in. Colin

Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: canyoncarver on Dec 05, 2015, 22:12:18
Nice bits. 
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: DohcBikes on Dec 05, 2015, 22:15:31
Those bags are classy.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: cxman on Dec 06, 2015, 09:08:57
do you have or know where i can get a crank for that bike?
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 06, 2015, 09:42:47
do you have or know where i can get a crank for that bike?

Hi CXman, You could try this dealer http://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/CBX550/ they are UK based and don't list a crank but they are a well known Honda parts dealer and may know of where you could get hold of your crank?

I've had a quick look on UK ebay but nothing, not even an engine.

Good luck with your search.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 06, 2015, 09:45:16
Nice bits.

Thanx CC, I'm very pleased and love attending this event, wish there were more like this. Folk seem to favour internet sourcing which has an impact on proper swapmeet events in the UK...apathy could kill them off which is a shame. Attendance is critical to keep these events alive. Plus srounging thorugh rusty/greasy shit will always turn up a nugget of gold  ;D
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 06, 2015, 09:48:24
Those bags are classy.

Thank you Dohc, My best spot of the day IMO. They shall be the final piece to attach to the bike to signal completeness...a kind of topping out ceremony  ;D


Just need to figure how to attach them.....I'm thinking a thick wire bracket to support and attach to the seat subframe?

Any other ideas?
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: cxman on Dec 06, 2015, 15:13:50
i have asked david last time i spoke to him he did not have one

i have a buddy in canada that has one and it needs a crank
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 10, 2015, 10:08:13
i have asked david last time i spoke to him he did not have one

i have a buddy in canada that has one and it needs a crank

I'm always searching UK ebay for CBX550 parts, I'll keep an eye out for a crank or complete engine for you cxman.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: cxman on Dec 10, 2015, 10:18:58
thanks
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Maritime on Dec 10, 2015, 10:24:22
i have asked david last time i spoke to him he did not have one

i have a buddy in canada that has one and it needs a crank

I was just about to say you may find one here as they sold the bike for a few years.  I have a bone yard not far away, I'll reach out and see if they have any cranks.

Nice work so far Colin, I almost bought one of these as my first bike but it needed more work than I was comfortable with at that time so I passed.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 10, 2015, 14:44:09
Nice work so far Colin, I almost bought one of these as my first bike but it needed more work than I was comfortable with at that time so I passed.

Thank you Maritime. I didn't go out specifically to buy CBX, it came my way for the money I had at the time and has been with me over 17 years.


Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 10, 2015, 14:53:13
So, back to the build. I wanted a simple rear light to mount on the plastic rear mudguard, and ended up with this neat little number.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/Trialsrearlight_zpsc14fe373.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/Trialsrearlight_zpsc14fe373.jpg.html)

Painted the rear brake cover and made a new s/s vent grill, looks nice I think?

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20141112_123117_zpsc6137eab.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20141112_123117_zpsc6137eab.jpg.html)

The Pro-Link swingarm turned out well.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20141116_182814_zpsf0055900.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20141116_182814_zpsf0055900.jpg.html)

Love the copper end caps. Need to make the chainguard into something different....hmmm...I'm thinking drilled 25mm holes along the length, using s stepper drill the inner profile can be nicely rounded if I get it right?

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20141116_182834_zpsd07e65ec.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20141116_182834_zpsd07e65ec.jpg.html)

More to follow....
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 10, 2015, 15:01:19
The aftermarket Neta exhaust was cleaned and treated to BBQ paint which had to be cured at high temp....I used a 500w work lamp which eventually did the trick. It'll do for now...

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/ARoyalCounty28-11-14005_zps287a50ae.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/ARoyalCounty28-11-14005_zps287a50ae.jpg.html)

This is the completed rear brake assembly, I'm pleased with that.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/ARoyalCounty28-11-14006_zps49d19ba2.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/ARoyalCounty28-11-14006_zps49d19ba2.jpg.html)

Had a mare sourcing the Heidenau tyres, so aborted that deal and settled for this brand instead, Mefo ME99 Sport Explorer in 110/80 front and 130/80 rear. They came highly recommended by the suppliers ZenOverland - website: http://www.zenoverland.com/tyres_tubes/mefo_explorer.html

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/Mefo-tyre_zps8eb4b5d1.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/Mefo-tyre_zps8eb4b5d1.jpg.html)

These beauties are going on the rims this weekend  :)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 10, 2015, 18:37:10
Seat update:

Using my knee I made a hump...

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20150201_144127_zps7d537488.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20150201_144127_zps7d537488.jpg.html)

..and shaved a stock seat foam down to size. The original seat is mint and I didn't feel like hacking it about, so I bought a cheap split seat to play with. An electric carving knife cuts foam cleanly enough, and 80 grit paper smoothes it nicely.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20150201_144206_zpsd556fbaf.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20150201_144206_zpsd556fbaf.jpg.html)

Half n half...

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20150201_144219_zpsd8e15262.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20150201_144219_zpsd8e15262.jpg.html)

I'm liking the overall shape.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20150201_145258_zpsae53f050.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20150201_145258_zpsae53f050.jpg.html)

My first attempt at beading....pleased with it to be honest.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20150207_214607_zpsdb145ef5.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20150207_214607_zpsdb145ef5.jpg.html)

The clamping strip is only partway done, it's there to hold the leather when I have it upholstered.

As I'm using real leather for the cover I thought to add a water proof layer....turns out a yoga mat is ideal  :D

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20150201_160242_zpsd6646e1d.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20150201_160242_zpsd6646e1d.jpg.html)

To position the seat I used the stock subframe bridge, opened out two holes enough to accommodate two bungs (off a VW splitscreen) to locate the seat. Just need to figure a fixing system of some kind, might even use the stock lock mechanism?...of a simple bolt and wing nut through one of the other holes in the bridge.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20151210_211504_zpsdqcfpea5.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20151210_211504_zpsdqcfpea5.jpg.html)

More to follow....



Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 11, 2015, 09:29:18
i have asked david last time i spoke to him he did not have one

i have a buddy in canada that has one and it needs a crank

Hi CX, this ebay listing states 'loads of engine parts', may be worth contacting the seller for your buddy's crank?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1984-honda-cbx-550-carburetors-/321920711845?hash=item4af3f83ca5:g:b2IAAOSwQItT4TtE
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: pjdave on Dec 12, 2015, 04:42:57
looking good
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 12, 2015, 19:03:23
looking good

Thank you PJ.

Good day - bad day haha!

Managed to borrow the long stem allen socket and release the holding bolt holding the plunger mechanism in the fork housing. Renewed the oil seal, quite straight-forward really. Good day.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20151212_155524_zpsg5tcypom.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20151212_155524_zpsg5tcypom.jpg.html)

Pleased with myself I cleaned the legs and then realised I hadn't filled them with oil....DOH!! :rolleyes: School boy error haha! I'll find the capacity data and fill using a syringe though the lower bolt hole....which means getting them undone again!!

In other news.....tyres are on :D

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20151212_213004_zpsch2btxkm.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20151212_213004_zpsch2btxkm.jpg.html)

Tried to show the difference in widths, but perspective is playing it's usual trick.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20151212_213137_zpsjlowg9c8.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20151212_213137_zpsjlowg9c8.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20151212_213148_zps6bryuybh.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20151212_213148_zps6bryuybh.jpg.html)

Can't wait to fit them up to check for clearances.

Thanks for checking in :)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 13, 2015, 18:09:42
Righto, I've had a good think in the garage and made a decision.

I'm going to keep the stock airbox, intake and filter housing which incorporates the battery holder as well as ignition/electrical components.

Having read a good few project threads about 'pods' and how they drastically affect the performance of CV carbs like the Kiehins on the CBX I've decided it's just not worth the bother for the sake of cheap looking pods which would be a git to fit anyway due to the frame spine being close to the middle two intakes.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20151213_204249_zpscytnowgw.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20151213_204249_zpscytnowgw.jpg.html)

I'm going to have hand made side covers anyway, so why not just house everything where it already was and extend the side covers to disguise the ugly airbox. I night even jazz it up a bit with some punch stainless sheet.

Also, I was dicking about with the rear guard as I now have tyres on the wheels, so quickly stuck the axle in and without the shock on I have no clearance issues that I can tell. The front edge of the guard needs trimming, but when I stuck the alloy guard on there is just looked right....so an alloy rear guard will be purchased at the next Kempton jumble. The filter box will provide a fixing point for it as well.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20151213_200857_zpsxf5x7fyu.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20151213_200857_zpsxf5x7fyu.jpg.html)
Needs trimming down, but this is the front anyway.

So, along with a number roundel, maybe part of the side panel?, I'll have all that I need in the correct place working as it should.

I might reposition the ignition switch as I like the idea of a central speedo and could mount it where the ignition barrel now sits....more thought about that in due course.

Fitted the seat locating/mounting lugs to the seat pan. Nylocs is the only way I could do it, they're right under where my arse will be.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20151213_205653_zpstvqw7x6k.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20151213_205653_zpstvqw7x6k.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20151213_201010_zpsvb1hfq5z.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20151213_201010_zpsvb1hfq5z.jpg.html)

So I cut three layers of yoga mat to line the pan and build up some more padding.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20151213_205557_zpszojsmnpr.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20151213_205557_zpszojsmnpr.jpg.html)


I might even find/make thick rubber washers so there'll be no danger of feeling the nuts.

Just need to make a H bracket to rivet to the front edge so the tank nut can also hold the seat in place as well.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20151213_201018_zpstbge9e8y.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20151213_201018_zpstbge9e8y.jpg.html)

Not bad for a few hours today. Cheers for checking in.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 15, 2015, 15:44:53
Snaffled a CBR 600 monoshock off my biker neighbour. Trial fit looks like it's too long...can it be shortened on the coils, anyone know that can help? Thank you.

Looks v/smart I have to say.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20151215_184508_zpscb0uazau.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20151215_184508_zpscb0uazau.jpg.html)

It's long by 40mm, I could modify the top mount which doesn't look too difficult.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20151215_184517_zpspg0fsbv0.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20151215_184517_zpspg0fsbv0.jpg.html)

Mount the remote tank on the subframe somewhere like this.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20151215_184620_zpsncksv9lc.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20151215_184620_zpsncksv9lc.jpg.html)

I'm pretty sure the spring rate will be OK, there's only 15kg difference between the two bikes.

Could I source a shorter coil to reduce the length? I'd remove it to paint it as yellow wouldn't suit the overall colour scheme.....maybe paint it orange?

Any advice would be good, cheers
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: xb33bsa on Dec 15, 2015, 18:31:07
just keep the stock shock on it or get an aftermarket shock made to fit
you cant just swap a shock from another bike and assume it might work because the bike have a similar weight that has nothing to do with whether it will work or not
if you want to go mucking with suspension get some books and learn
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 16, 2015, 06:04:40
just keep the stock shock on it or get an aftermarket shock made to fit
you cant just swap a shock from another bike and assume it might work because the bike have a similar weight that has nothing to do with whether it will work or not
if you want to go mucking with suspension get some books and learn

Yeah, thanx for that.

I had hoped it would go straight on, but I hadn't got any dimensions before collecting it last night. I know compressing it too much will not be good as it'll bottom out too soon.

I only asked if there was a tolerance in spring/length adjustment within the 30-40mm. I also know if the rear is raised significantly the steering will be affected and the chain may be too slack or rub on the frame.

I also know if I move the top mount it will affect the trajectory/alignment which could have a neg affect on handling, so will probably not move the mount.

I have another option for a monoshock, rather than fit the stock item. But, I may even end up doing that in the end.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: xb33bsa on Dec 16, 2015, 10:43:05
do you not still have the stock shock ?
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 16, 2015, 10:50:21
do you not still have the stock shock ?

Yes, I do. Hydro-pneumatic and trick in it's day.

It's an ugly/rusty brute but could clean up I suppose.

I had hoped a newer monoshock would work. I know of a UK shock absorber company that makes alloy billet bodies adjustable dampers/coil-overs who will build a 'made to measure' coil-over or me. I had thought to save money with the CBR item. Alas, it's not to be I fear.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: xb33bsa on Dec 16, 2015, 22:58:18
ive been trying to look at a parts breakdown on that goofy thing i cant find cbx550 is it just a slereved 750 ? anyway rterason i ask is cause i have a shocvk that may siut at least it has possabilities .it isa foxtwin clicker from a v45 sabre which has the same configuration rear suspensionj...i think anyway ....the twin clicker as it is is quite long but its just got a long ass eye end on one end .it can be easily shortened to suit without messin with the   spring length .how long was the stock shock yougot any pitchurs of it ? the twin clicker is a good by gawd american made unit just needs resealing.the biggest clue is the full travel of the stock shock...for a chance of viability
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: 8ball on Dec 16, 2015, 23:20:57
We didn't get the CBX550 in the US.  I think Canada got them, but basically they were an up-sized CBX400....which we also didn't get
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 17, 2015, 04:19:18
We didn't get the CBX550 in the US.  I think Canada got them, but basically they were an up-sized CBX400....which we also didn't get

The CBX Nighthawk was the US version, more a cruiser than the sportsbike it was in Europe. The family of CBXs includes the 550 (baby 4x cylinder), 750 ( 4x cylinder) and the iconic 1000 6x cylinder mentalist machine.

Thanx for the offer of a shock, but if it has to be resealed and modified I could do that to a UK sourced shock for beer money to be honest. they're on the bay for $30-40.

I can revisit the stock shock which, although potentially 33yrs old, may still be OK? I have removed the gaitor which should go back together.

Lots to think about....thanks for your continued interest in my modest project.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: xb33bsa on Dec 17, 2015, 16:49:15
the stock shock should be fine with a few good flushes and oil change i think the only major hurtle getting inside one is compressing and releasing the spring tension without killing or maiming ones self
it must have a port that you could use  to drain or fill though or drill and tap the cannister for a 1/4 or 1/8 inch pipe fitting  8)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 17, 2015, 17:35:04
the stock shock should be fine with a few good flushes and oil change i think the only major hurtle getting inside one is compressing and releasing the spring tension without killing or maiming ones self
it must have a port that you could use  to drain or fill though or drill and tap the cannister for a 1/4 or 1/8 inch pipe fitting  8)

Haha.....thanks, i'll let you know how I get on.  ;)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 18, 2015, 06:28:06
the stock shock should be fine with a few good flushes and oil change i think the only major hurtle getting inside one is compressing and releasing the spring tension without killing or maiming ones self
it must have a port that you could use  to drain or fill though or drill and tap the cannister for a 1/4 or 1/8 inch pipe fitting  8)

I can't find shock absorber flushing oil, can I use rubber friendly thinners (non cellulose)? Nor can I find a drain plug....so it looks like I'll be drilling and tapping my own hole. Unless you have a spare hole XB, I'll pay shipping and taxes? Or are you talking out of all of them?  :P
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: xb33bsa on Dec 18, 2015, 18:02:45
welll ive never worked on one of those shocks but have seen 'em had an interceptor 500 same lashup ...
its is just a pretty simple device tho...
post up a few pics from dif angles
i like oderless mineral spirits or bbg brigquete fuel for warshing parts neither one stinks so bad y'know
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: CBXStan on Dec 20, 2015, 13:53:44
you will be happy with converting to the F2 shock if you are 180lbs+. Relocate the top pivot to keep the stock height. The F2 does have a stiffer spring rate but if you set it at the softest you will still have the ideal sag. You will find that it will be much better composed.

If you do this mod along with progressive springs in the front you will be even happier. The progressive springs for a CX650 are a direct fit. Run spacers with 0 air.

Could not find a good pic of the mod but you can see the F2 shock in the background and the relocated pivot on the frame. I still run the stock airbox without interference.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 20, 2015, 16:55:26
Thank you CBXStan, just the information I was wanting, excellent report. I was toying with the idea of lengthening the lower mount....any thoughts?

The top mount can be easily relocated, so I am more than happy to carry out that mod. If I'm careful, could I cut the existing mounts off and move them up 40mm? New mounts aren't a problem either.

I'm not sure there is budget for 130s worth of progressives, so they may have to wait?

I'm just about to check out your projects. Cheers Colin
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 23, 2015, 20:38:35
A little progress made tonight. Well tonight and last week.

Tonight I restored the speedo I snared the other week, came out nice. 10 a couple of hours, a few coats of paint and it's mucho better:

Before:

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20151205_190435_zpsxwhniha6.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20151205_190435_zpsxwhniha6.jpg.html)

During:

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20151223_210657_zpsampurhmo.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20151223_210657_zpsampurhmo.jpg.html)

After: three coats of Wurth Zinc paint and three coats of U-POL satin rattle can black.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20151223_222229_zpsbqvhrr26.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20151223_222229_zpsbqvhrr26.jpg.html)

Just give it a day and I'll tidy the paint line with a scalpel. It'll do.

The other night I polished a load of nuts n bolts and fittings etc.

Checking out material to make the side panels out of.....more of that later ;)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 24, 2015, 10:46:51
Spotted a cool tool box from back in the day at our VW club workshop night. Totally the correct era for my '82 CBX which might have been featured at the London Earl's Court Motorcycle Show :-) I want to own it.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20151223_210215_zpse2y6lnzh.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20151223_210215_zpse2y6lnzh.jpg.html)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: lchris21 on Dec 30, 2015, 05:03:56
some nice work going on. those wheels are wild.........how times have changed

top job on the seat  :)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 30, 2015, 10:04:13
some nice work going on. those wheels are wild.........how times have changed

top job on the seat  :)

Thanx Chris, Once I've finalised the seat fitting and lock down I'll have it upholstered.

Wheels are what they are, can't afford to have spoked rims as I want to retain the CBX inboard discs. I'll be getting flack for running tracker/enduro tyres but I like the look and will never push their limits of adhesion.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jan 01, 2016, 14:30:39
Well, after a good amount of reading and thinking, I've decided not to dick with the shock mounts. Offering the CBR shock up and raising the top mount by 40mm would push the shock cap/mount into the airbox and make it slightly out of vertical angle alignment which might cause fouling/binding issues.

So, plan B will be instigated.

I sell Protech Shocks into the VW aircooled market and will have a one-off 2.25"ID 13 stage adjustable monoshock coil-over 'made to measure' with alloy billet endcaps and rose joints at 275mm (static length) with a suitable spring circa 350lb (tbc). The adjustable damping will be useful, but getting the static length and spring rate correct is key.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/Protech400series_zpsmnexttxt.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/Protech400series_zpsmnexttxt.jpg.html)

I figure 185kg bike and 90kg rider = 275kg or 600lbs. So a 55:45 ratio would need circa 350lb/6-7" coil...am I correct?

Any advice or experience of coil rates for a 185kg (dry) bike and 90kg rider would be useful please.  I'll be talking to Protech to get their advice as well, so should know more of the spec next week. Coils can be swapped out relatively easily and cheaply, so no great shakes if I have to increase/decrease poundage.

I wanted to have the stock ride height if possible, unless there is an advantage to raising the rear a few mm without any detriment to the handling (despite the chunky/clunky tyres).

Oh yeah, fork gaiters arrived from Honkers and fit, yay!

Thanks for checking in chaps. HNY2016 to all  :D
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jan 03, 2016, 18:33:18
Small update, but progress as I have stripped out the fork triple tree to access the head bearings. Now, I think they've been changed as there is very little signs of wear n tear, but they look like pattern bearings. I have no problem with that, and would change them if there were marked signs of wear, but aside from the odd blemish everything is shiny and wear free.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160103_190651_zpsvrabwk9i.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160103_190651_zpsvrabwk9i.jpg.html)

I think I'll grease them up and be done :)

Painted up the fork mounts, and a few other bits I'd cleaned up recently.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160103_190624_zpshw6ykvdm.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160103_190624_zpshw6ykvdm.jpg.html)

Jobs to do:

Fill forks with oil
Paint fork legs
Fit gaiters
Install forks and front wheel/brakes...
..so I can roll it outside to clean the engine down properly. I don't fancy doing it in the garage as it'll be a bloody mess.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jan 05, 2016, 11:25:46
Well, after a good amount of reading and thinking, I've decided not to dick with the shock mounts. Offering the CBR shock up and raising the top mount by 40mm would push the shock cap/mount into the airbox and make it slightly out of vertical angle alignment which might cause fouling/binding issues.

So, plan B will be instigated.

I sell Protech Shocks into the VW aircooled market and will have a one-off 2.25"ID 13 stage adjustable monoshock coil-over 'made to measure' with alloy billet endcaps and rose joints at 275mm (static length) with a suitable spring circa 350lb (tbc). The adjustable damping will be useful, but getting the static length and spring rate correct is key.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/Protech400series_zpsmnexttxt.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/Protech400series_zpsmnexttxt.jpg.html)

I figure 185kg bike and 90kg rider = 275kg or 600lbs. So a 55:45 ratio would need circa 350lb/6-7" coil...am I correct?

Any advice or experience of coil rates for a 185kg (dry) bike and 90kg rider would be useful please.  I'll be talking to Protech to get their advice as well, so should know more of the spec next week. Coils can be swapped out relatively easily and cheaply, so no great shakes if I have to increase/decrease poundage.

I wanted to have the stock ride height if possible, unless there is an advantage to raising the rear a few mm without any detriment to the handling (despite the chunky/clunky tyres).

Oh yeah, fork gaiters arrived from Honkers and fit, yay!

Thanks for checking in chaps. HNY2016 to all  :D

Just off the phone to a bike shock specialist who have/sell Protech Shocks build dampers to their spec. Mike was very helpful and gave me the build spec he uses for CBX550s.

Length 285mm open (I'm raising it 10mm from stock)
13 stage damping adjustment
650lb-6" coil
Rose jointed billet alloy end caps - anodised in gold (hopefully)
10x40 & 10x50mm mount spacers.

Should look good and work well.

Here's a link to the UK motorcycle dealers webpage: http://shock-factory.co.uk/m-shocks-home.html (http://shock-factory.co.uk/m-shocks-home.html)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jan 05, 2016, 16:20:02
The cleaning continues......it'll get more interesting soon, I promise :)

Coils

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160105_190340_zpspbjdihwo.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160105_190340_zpspbjdihwo.jpg.html)

...and NGK caps & leads.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160105_190540_zps5jnqiaia.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160105_190540_zps5jnqiaia.jpg.html)

I might change the leads but they're known to be OK and still look in good condition. A job for later maybe?

Taking in the alternator cover into club workshop to try and see what a wirewheel finish looks like, nt bothered about a high shine, a brushed finish would do nicely.

More anon.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: beachcomber on Jan 06, 2016, 06:38:31
That's the problem with plug leads - they can "look" OK !!!!!

They're so cheap [ or knit your own ], it's not worth taking a chance on.

Having been involved directly with the development of plug leads [ 8mm silicone Hi-Po jobbies ] - and done considerable testing with OEM units [ new and used ] - they would be my first item to change / replace.

A quick trawl of E-Bay will get you the Hi-Po silicone 8mm wire for something like 3.00 / metre !!

Here's some I developed for RAM [ BMW Kay series ]

(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc472/manfredvonheyda/S%20ON%20AVON%20024_zpshdeawlps.jpg) (http://s1213.photobucket.com/user/manfredvonheyda/media/S%20ON%20AVON%20024_zpshdeawlps.jpg.html)

(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc472/manfredvonheyda/DSCF01041_zps9e211689.jpg) (http://s1213.photobucket.com/user/manfredvonheyda/media/DSCF01041_zps9e211689.jpg.html)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jan 06, 2016, 20:13:04
I knew as I typed I'd be changing them......purchased this item last night:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121249613315?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Orange 8mm silicon leads. Thanks for your comment beachcobbler.

Bit more done tonight.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160106_183912_zps5fehpt3l.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160106_183912_zps5fehpt3l.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160106_194747_zpsj5nwmkfa.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160106_194747_zpsj5nwmkfa.jpg.html)

Generator cover and fork brace 'burnished' on the wire wheel and a few parts blacked....that'll do nicely  :D

Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jan 08, 2016, 16:42:33
Torque about needing this:

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160108_200136_zpsopoxhsrp.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160108_200136_zpsopoxhsrp.jpg.html)

28 of your English pounds buys you a low torque 3/8" drive for all the important bolts/nuts on the build.

About time I owned one :D Do you?
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jan 11, 2016, 17:26:27
This lovely little film popped up on FB, hope it copies and play OK.

Link: https://www.facebook.com/motoparadiso/videos/1634154753516510/
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Weasel on Jan 16, 2016, 15:48:22
Love where you are going with this mate. Can't wait to see the finished product. Good work so far.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: RatBikeRod on Jan 19, 2016, 15:58:00
Nice project, love to see builds like this.

...boxes coming in the mail are nice too... ;D
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jan 19, 2016, 18:28:11
Thank you Weasel & RBR  :D Compared to some projects on here, mine's a walk in the park....but it's all I have.

More bits arriving, some would say I'm an 'idiot' buying these LEDs  ;)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160119_205514_zpsmslhy9h4.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160119_205514_zpsmslhy9h4.jpg.html)

Pleasantly surprised at how small these turned out to be. As the single speedo doesn't have any lights in it I needed some for the usual things: Ignition, Neutral, Indicators, Main beam so just need to find somewhere to mount them......hmmm..I have a plan.

Oh yeah, Bike Jumble this Saturday looking forward to a proper rummage.....specifically seeking a rear guard in alloy.

https://www.facebook.com/EGPEnterprises/?fref=ts

Thanks for checking in.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jan 21, 2016, 07:58:25
Thank you Weasel & RBR  :D Compared to some projects on here, mine's a walk in the park....but it's all I have.

More bits arriving, some would say I'm an 'idiot' buying these LEDs  ;)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160119_205514_zpsmslhy9h4.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160119_205514_zpsmslhy9h4.jpg.html)

Pleasantly surprised at how small these turned out to be. As the single speedo doesn't have any lights in it I needed some for the usual things: Ignition, Neutral, Indicators, Main beam so just need to find somewhere to mount them......hmmm..I have a plan.

Oh yeah, Bike Jumble this Saturday looking forward to a proper rummage.....specifically seeking a rear guard in alloy.

https://www.facebook.com/EGPEnterprises/?fref=ts

Thanks for checking in.

As they're LEDs I might have to put a resistor in the ignition line so the alt will recognise it.

Anyone know more on this subject please?

I don't really understand charging/electrics!! I could use a regular bulb inline and stuff it in the headlight bowl, it'll only come on when the key is turned on.

Or..... I could rig up the bulb above the engine so it illuminates it briefly ;)

I got the horn repainted last night at club night, not a huge step forward but every little helps etc...instead of a boring black horn I thought this image would be far more interesting....spot the classic.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160120_192841_zpsxshfbs3w.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160120_192841_zpsxshfbs3w.jpg.html)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: kipper on Jan 22, 2016, 15:43:11
Is it the welder ?


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Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jan 22, 2016, 16:06:17
Is it the welder ?

Winnar  ;D

The rest are duds......the welder is their friend  ;)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: yorkie350 on Jan 22, 2016, 16:28:16
Using same LED's for oil & neutral light on my 550f  just wacked em straight in work fine no problem  ;)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jan 22, 2016, 19:20:31
Using same LED's for oil & neutral light on my 550f  just wacked em straight in work fine no problem  ;)

That's good news, thanx yorker.

The ignition light is meant to be the problem one as the LED doesn't offer enough resistance apparently?? I might need an oil light as well...hmmm.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jan 23, 2016, 19:01:46
Another good rummage day at Kempton, initial disappointment, the bloke I bought the front guard off of had sold out!!! No worries, another was scored for a tenna which will do very nicely thank you.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160123_214617_zpszxf5nug2.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160123_214617_zpszxf5nug2.jpg.html)

It's a bit battered, but has the same lamp as the new one I have and it has a flexi number-plate that takes self-adhesive letters...and it has a reflector and cable grommet as well. It'll need some fettling, but I've offered it up and it'll do, so onward to a scotchbrite finish to both.

The new gaitors are mahoosive compared to the first one's I have, bit too big at both ends as well, despite measuring them?? They might still fit.

The eagle eyed amongst you might notice the orange ducks bill peak.....my silly buy which could find it's way onto an openface in the future.

The stash is on a stainless drip tray, just what I needed to stand the bike on to clean the engine/undercarriage....for a fiver as well :D

Spent some time with my son mooching for parts which was good father/son time, rare these days and very welcome.

All in all another good day and well worth the effort. Miss it and you miss out.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jan 26, 2016, 18:18:40
Spent exactly 7 minutes on the rear guard, quick scrub in the sink with a scotchbrite pad and chrome cleaner brought it up a tad. New lamp and rubber plate achieves the look I was hoping for.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160126_201209_zpsdegslry7.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160126_201209_zpsdegslry7.jpg.html)

Hacked some cardboard into a shape of sorts, bit too big at the moment but trying to cover the airbox......hmmm ,let's call it a work in progress and leave it at that ;)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160126_201224_zpshags9ujd.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160126_201224_zpshags9ujd.jpg.html)

Notice the gills....I want gills :)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jan 28, 2016, 06:01:57
Turned out nice :)


(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160127_215312_zps8joxfo7l.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160127_215312_zps8joxfo7l.jpg.html)

Tapped out the deep gouges on the rear guard, not too bad but not brilliant. Scotchbrite and chrome cleaner came out OK.

I'm keeping the Royal Enfield transfer.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jan 31, 2016, 19:01:34
Fit new plug leads they said, it won't take long they said!!!!..

Well, a whole evening to change 4x plug leads...talk about taking my time. All I had to do was strip off the old leads of cap, coil screw cap and lead sleeve and then slide them all onto the new silicon leads. They're only circa 1mm wider, no problem on a test fit.

However, trying to do all 4 the rubber sleeves were tighter than a tight thing, well lubed with vaseline and WD40 I couldn't get the new leads through the lead marker ring of plastic on #1 lead. tried warming it and gave it a good go, but it would not pass through the marker ring....bugger.
Had to split the rings three times.
Not too sure they'll glue back in place and I rather like the idea of having the factory markings with just a bit of orange visible.

I have a plan, I've ordered a 1:72 letter/number transfer kit for RAF model planes. There's a good selection of font sizes on one sheet. I plan to use new shrink wrap with these numbers stuck on to replicate the OG markers....hope it works? :-/

Here's a few snaps.

The orange looks dull in these images, poorly lit I think. They're actually very bright orange haha!.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160131_212236_zpsk1gof32x.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160131_212236_zpsk1gof32x.jpg.html)

You can see #1 doesn't have markers....

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160131_212248_zpshz6szfsk.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160131_212248_zpshz6szfsk.jpg.html)

With the tank in place, there's just a sneaky splash of colour, caps all facing the same way and outer sleeves the same distance from the cap. They better bloody work, I tell ya.

Only a small cosmetic job, but immensely satisfying....I also cleaned & degreased both handlebar control units and most of the loom/connectors. Nothing to see.....

Thanks for checking in..:-)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Feb 02, 2016, 11:21:17
Some shiny stuff has arrived:

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160202_135707_zps5brcwxxx.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160202_135707_zps5brcwxxx.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160202_135724_zpsotglhw3q.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160202_135724_zpsotglhw3q.jpg.html)

I'm very pleased, even though Protech missed out the spacer collets, on my own order was well ha!

Now, do I paint the coil orange or leave it black? I'm looking for orange detailing around the bike and thought the coil would look rather smart....what do you all think?

ITMT..gathered together the latest arrivals, can you guess what they are to be used for?

Answers on a postcard.... :-)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Feb 02, 2016, 14:31:04
For those of you who have never seen a mono-shock in situ:

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160202_173922_zpsqfhe7a5f.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160202_173922_zpsqfhe7a5f.jpg.html)

I had thought to paint the spring orange, but I think I'll err on the conservative and leave it powdered black as it looks so smart I think.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160202_173931_zps3pjncxqz.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160202_173931_zps3pjncxqz.jpg.html)

Nice n easy to get to the damping adjuster knob, 13 stage adjustment should mean fine tuning can be done on the fly.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160202_173937_zpscv9uyrt0.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160202_173937_zpscv9uyrt0.jpg.html)

Of course, it's not fixed in place yet and the spacers are on their way.

I now need to get the forks refilled and fitted when I've painted the headstock area in glass black. Then I can trial the ride height and rear end for clearance etc. Progress I think?

Cheers chaps.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: yorkie350 on Feb 02, 2016, 16:26:36
nice bit of progress mate like the idea of keeping spring black looks quite stealth that way  8) keep up mate ya gonna be riding this summer  ;)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Feb 05, 2016, 18:44:57
nice bit of progress mate like the idea of keeping spring black looks quite stealth that way  8) keep up mate ya gonna be riding this summer  ;)

Thanks yorker, riding it this summer? I certainly hope so fella.

In other news....I've filled the forks with ATF (as per the manual) and now I know how to I can upgrade when/if I want  :D
Mind you, what a bloody ballache I've had keeping the oil in them....you wouldn't believe what prize bellend I've been haha!

First, propped them in the back of my van to bring them home from my VW club workshop night, only for one to have rolled a bit a dribbled oil out of the airway hole in the top cap...but, to compound the problem, I took a closer look at the painted fork legs only to tip the thing and piss even more oil out all over the floor/step/tools...f'f*cksake!!
I needed to refill it as enough pissed out to mess with the levels and I'd struggled to fit the endcap against the secondary spring pressure. Eventually, using the plastic coated handles of a pump wrench to grip either side of the top cap housing allowing me to compress and twist at the same time....viola!

So, I had to do it all again.....bloody hell. Popped into Scotty's and got on with it, topped it up nicely and was sorting another pump wrench when big Sean asked what I was dicking around for...told him how I'd got the end cap on and he just grabbed the cap, pushed down and twisted in on.....f'f*cksake!! He did it with his barehands.....

So, I now have two forklegs topped up with oil, painted, detailed and looking smart enough.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160205_201429_zpscw1tp9jz.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160205_201429_zpscw1tp9jz.jpg.html)

Detailed them a touch with stainless bolts and gaitors but I think they're too small. Luckily, I scored a larger pair at the motorbike swapmeet but they need sleeving out on the top (forks 35mm, gaitor tops 38mm).....just need to find some rubber strip.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160205_201449_zpsjxzlpbn1.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160205_201449_zpsjxzlpbn1.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160205_201510_zpskbzgtoww.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160205_201510_zpskbzgtoww.jpg.html)

They'll do  ;D

All I need now is new brake pads and I could be assembling the front end...yay!

Want to get it back on two wheels so I can wash down the engine outside.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: sincerelyadam on Feb 05, 2016, 19:24:45
Good stuff


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Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Feb 06, 2016, 13:16:26
Good stuff


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Thanx Adam.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Feb 08, 2016, 10:08:15
In an attempt to get a bloody move on, I'm deciding if I'm overengineering some jobs such as the seat. I wanted to have it hinged with a roller catch to secure it. This will need brackets and fixings (rivnuts) sorting out etc. All a lot of faffing about and time I could spend actually getting it together and running!!

Whereas, I could just velcro it to the subframe and be done with it?

Here's the underside of the seat.(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20151213_201010_zpsvb1hfq5z.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20151213_201010_zpsvb1hfq5z.jpg.html)

Along with the two rubber bung locators I have, that fit holes on a cross brace, I think two strips of velcro along the subframe will hold it in place well enough, do you?

I've ordered industrial strength velcro which is self adhesive but can be stitched into the seat leather as well.

FOOTNOTE: Here I am dithering about whether to use/or not to use velcro when there are amazing feats of engineering featured in other 'builds'....I feel inadequate on here :-(
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Feb 08, 2016, 18:28:42
I know my mantra is aimed at getting the bike together and running, but I will need something to sit on so justified some time on the seat tonight. Got the material grab strip pop riveted in place

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160208_195623_zpsuk8usq9r.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160208_195623_zpsuk8usq9r.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160208_195634_zpslxtztw70.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160208_195634_zpslxtztw70.jpg.html)

and added more padding ,to cover two nuts for the bungs and rivet heads, so it's a bit more comfy now.

Spent an hour cleaning the petcock off the primered tank...came out nice, but it's not complete and the original CBX tap is fine....cleaned the wrong one... ::)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: sincerelyadam on Feb 09, 2016, 08:29:49
I know what you mean about getting a bloody move on. I've postponed a lot of jobs on my bike that can be done after it's up and running. It seems like the seat might be a bit shifty with just those two bungs and velcro. Could you attach a few studs to the seat pan and weld pieces of tube to the frame that correspond with the studs? A male/female situation. That would eliminate any lateral movement.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Feb 09, 2016, 08:56:12
I get what you're saying Adam, thank you.

The seat is quite firm from a lateral movement point of view, the bungs are a tight fit in the crossmember. The velcro is to hold it in place when off the bike really. I have considered an over-centre catch underneath to hold it in place as well, but might be impeded by the filter box/gubbins and rear guard. Hmm....I've got the velcro on it's way, I should do a mock up and see it it will work...can't see it not working to be honest. It'll not have to come off too often, but will need to be removeable for access. More to think about haha!
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Feb 10, 2016, 20:14:16
Threw the front wheel on to check that it'd go on.....Yay it does, but clearance is tight, especially with the mudguard between the tyre and brace.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160210_160838_zpsjlnzjgoy.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160210_160838_zpsjlnzjgoy.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160210_160848_zps4gzixlas.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160210_160848_zps4gzixlas.jpg.html)

Looks tough though.

I can space the brace up a few mm to create more room. I like it close as per trials bikes, rather than scrambler stylee. I could use the brace to mount the guard but prefer to make my own hoops and tags to mount it using the fork legs as per Mr Honda.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: dilbone on Feb 10, 2016, 21:02:06
I'm loving the look and ideas you've come up with here.  I've been looking at picking up an '83 gs750e and have had a few reservations as to what to do with it being a monoshock bike.  You've given me some great ideas of how to make it work.  Nice work!
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: canyoncarver on Feb 10, 2016, 21:30:44
I do like the boomerang comstars.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Feb 11, 2016, 19:12:18
I'm loving the look and ideas you've come up with here.  I've been looking at picking up an '83 gs750e and have had a few reservations as to what to do with it being a monoshock bike.  You've given me some great ideas of how to make it work.  Nice work!

Thank you dilbert,pleased some of what I'm doing may help you.

I'm winging it to an extent, had an initial idea to Brat it, but it's morphed into what it is....in a good way, that I'm happy with the urban scrambler look and still useable and practical for popping to the shops or a quick bluesky blast.

What bikes have inspired you regarding style/look. Lots of beautiful bikes out there.

I'm sure some will tut tut at me choosing enduro tyres, especially as the CBX is a capable retro sports bike....but I'll be chugging around on it when it's ready...not bothered about hooning it too much.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Feb 11, 2016, 19:26:17
I do like the boomerang comstars.

I like them too canyoncurver, especially the alloy rims :-) Fiddly to detail and repaint but think they scrub up well enough. I really like the enclosed disc brake system, fronts look like Brit TLS vented brake drums which is cool. Cheers Colin
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: dilbone on Feb 11, 2016, 23:15:30
Thank you dilbert,pleased some of what I'm doing may help you.

I'm winging it to an extent, had an initial idea to Brat it, but it's morphed into what it is....in a good way, that I'm happy with the urban scrambler look and still useable and practical for popping to the shops or a quick bluesky blast.

What bikes have inspired you regarding style/look. Lots of beautiful bikes out there.

I'm sure some will tut tut at me choosing enduro tyres, especially as the CBX is a capable retro sports bike....but I'll be chugging around on it when it's ready...not bothered about hooning it too much.

I don't really have a particular bike that is my "ideal" or even "inspiration."  Like you said, there are so many nice bikes out there...I think I end up building a picture of one in my head one part and piece at a time with every picture I see that has some aspect to it that I like.

I built a bobber/chopper from an XS650 and a "brat" bike from a GS750, I didn't really have a specific bike for either of them but stole ideas from all sorts of bikes haha!!
This '83 monoshock gs750 I'm looking at will probably take on more of a cafe racer look if I ever get a hold of the guy to go pick it up.
Meahwhile...I'll just keep watch this one and see what ideas I can steal!!
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn39/dilbone/xs650%20bobber%20build/20141214_162329.jpg) (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/dilbone/media/xs650%20bobber%20build/20141214_162329.jpg.html)
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn39/dilbone/GS750%20brat%20build/20150807_183810.jpg) (http://s300.photobucket.com/user/dilbone/media/GS750%20brat%20build/20150807_183810.jpg.html)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Feb 12, 2016, 05:41:55

Meahwhile...I'll just keep watch this one and see what ideas I can steal!

You're welcome  :D
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Feb 15, 2016, 06:58:45
Small, but significant update: Had meaningful conversation with Cara doing the seat, she's now got my rendering and had a look at the materials, I just need to do my bit and she can do hers yay!

She'll run up a trial cover in vinyl before working on the leather for real. Important part the seat.

Now for the tank....and forks, engine clean/paint, hoop weld etc etc.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Feb 15, 2016, 16:45:05
I have actually bolted something on tonight....

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160215_200619_zpsutlbjnbc.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160215_200619_zpsutlbjnbc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Mar 05, 2016, 17:28:47
Some of you might have thought I'd taken a break or fucked orf somewhere sunny....but no, I've been busy but trying to do stuff as I can.

Really needed to get the seat in progress, so after an unsuccessful glueing marathon where the seat foam wouldn't stick around the edges due to too much elastacity I had to add another skin to tidy it all up. Turned out nice in the end me thinks :)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160305_141838_zpsxuspavhs.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160305_141838_zpsxuspavhs.jpg.html)

Drew a pattern to see how it might look....good imo.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160305_141848_zpsop3ksbd5.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160305_141848_zpsop3ksbd5.jpg.html)

Couldn't get the folds to suit the stitched seams I'd like but it's close enough.

Underside is neater and ready to take the cover. The razor sharp tin thingy is to hold down the cover securely.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160305_143456_zps9f0xpnv0.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160305_143456_zps9f0xpnv0.jpg.html)

Going to run the bug out of the garage so I can wheel the bike outside and de-grease the underside & engine ready for a splash of gloss or satin black.

Thanks for checking in :D
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: sincerelyadam on Mar 09, 2016, 08:57:49
Nice! Did you use chemical bonding medium (glue) to secure the yoga mat to the pan? What kind?
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Mar 09, 2016, 09:20:48
Nice! Did you use chemical bonding medium (glue) to secure the yoga mat to the pan? What kind?

I used rattle can spray glue and wish I hadn't as it wasn't strong enough to hold the layers of mat to base and foam together. I then used a tin of EvoStik which was much better but by now I had a rough, multi-layered finish that would've looked gash when covered. So, I wrapped another skin over the whole lot and fixed it underneath as well, much better.

I was relying on the EvoStik to hold the foam to the ally base, but as I hadn't trimmed the foam to sit snugly enough (only roughly) it pulled away.

So my tip would be to make sure the foam is in good contact before glueing, rather than hope the glue will pull down the foam....it's all a learning curve :-)

Looking forward to seeing it covered :-)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: SonOfNoRiders on Mar 11, 2016, 15:02:27
Looks Good, I would get someone to tidy up the wiring if you know any one who is competent enough.  :P

I have just acquired a CB400f and I am thinking about going for a similar look !!
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Mar 12, 2016, 17:07:38
......get someone to tidy up the wiring.... who is competent enough.  :P

Good idea, pass the Yellow Pages haha!

Had to start the bug (not run since last November) so I could drag the CBX out. Well pleased as it started after a just a few cranks which is ace and ticked over after a few jabs on the throttle :D

Wheeled out the bike and gave it a good going over with me new Nilfisk pressure washer. Dang well got most of the shit off it so I can now paint the frame and engine.

I couldn't resist throwing the guards and tank on to cheer meself up a bit.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160312_164822_zpsfp8owux3.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160312_164822_zpsfp8owux3.jpg.html)

Then I thought hang on, there's my entire fleet on the drive.....

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160312_171445_zpscmfz8ju8.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160312_171445_zpscmfz8ju8.jpg.html)

Bounced the rear a few times and I think the mono-shock will work out nice :)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Nj732port on Mar 22, 2016, 11:20:57
lookin great! get that seat covered :D
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Kamn on Mar 22, 2016, 11:30:54
That Bug is looking sweet! What if anything has been done to the Beetle
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Kanticoy on Mar 22, 2016, 12:11:35
Very cool build NR! I really like everything you're doing here. Just a note about your tank. It looks great but I do believe that it is a cb400f tank which is much cooler than a 500 tank IMO! Fits that bike's style perfectly! Keep it up!


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Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Mar 22, 2016, 15:40:21
That Bug is looking sweet! What if anything has been done to the Beetle

Thank you Kamn, damn nice of you to say.

Well...since you asked  ;)

Owned it about 9 years and replaced/repaired the lower 6" all round with the body on. Did most of the bodywork except welding and Ford Rio brown satin paint top coat, I did all the fabrication and body prep as well as rebuilt it. A year later dropped out the engine to clean it up, ended up with replacement barrels and pistons while early (pre65) drive shafts were fitted to allow the deep dish 7x15 Halibrand reps/215BFGs to fit under stock wings. Custom built and powdercoated 4" narrowed beam to accommodate the Rocket Launchers (you couldn't tell) wheels are 4.5" Ford PCD, modified brakes to suit. All the underside is cleaned and stonechipped, so quite clean all round. I built it to be a 'slamdoor driver' and use it as often as I can. It's far from perfect but it suits me nicely for that.

There's a build thread if you'd like to see the epic story and have an evening free haha. http://www.volkszone.com/VZi/showthread.php?t=682286
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Mar 22, 2016, 15:43:49
Very cool build NR! I really like everything you're doing here. Just a note about your tank. It looks great but I do believe that it is a cb400f tank which is much cooler than a 500 tank IMO! Fits that bike's style perfectly! Keep it up!


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Thank you Kanti...it's shaping up how I want it  :D

That's for the info on the tank, the fella at the swap meet told me it was a 550 tank, but having bought a '77 400/4 for my son it has the same shape tank as well. I really like the slabsides which shows more of the engine and the chrome flip filler cap is cool, although I do still like the stock tank, both will fit so I might chop n change  ;)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Mar 22, 2016, 15:47:44
Gave the bug a run out on Sunday to a local VW Aircooled event and bagged a Top 10 place in the show n shine...proper chuffed I have to say  ;D My mate blagged Best of Show as well....

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160320_152055_zpsuj2upow2.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160320_152055_zpsuj2upow2.jpg.html)
My 'bottle' trophy.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160320_152014_zpsgj8hofde.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160320_152014_zpsgj8hofde.jpg.html)
My mate's clean n cool '67.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160320_144443_zpshqs1thcl.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160320_144443_zpshqs1thcl.jpg.html)
Three smart Beetles...even if I do say so myself  8)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Zweihammer on Mar 23, 2016, 00:34:38
If you are still looking for an adhesive to bond layers of close cell to each other and to a substrate like aluminum, I have always depended on Barge cement. Put it on both faces, let it tack up until it are dry to the touch, put them together and you will have to use a grinder to get them apart again.
 For one of my own projects, I am thinking of using just the shaped foam on my seat base, without a cover of any kind, just using the Barge cement.
Cheers
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Mar 23, 2016, 05:31:38
If you are still looking for an adhesive to bond layers of close cell to each other and to a substrate like aluminum, I have always depended on Barge cement. Put it on both faces, let it tack up until it are dry to the touch, put them together and you will have to use a grinder to get them apart again.
 For one of my own projects, I am thinking of using just the shaped foam on my seat base, without a cover of any kind, just using the Barge cement.
Cheers

Thank you 2hammers, Barge Cement not available directly in the UK, not on ebay anyway, looks like a heavy duty contact adhesive used in shoe repair etc. Useful to know, thanks for your reply.

I solved the adhesion problem by wrapping the seat in another layer of closedcell yoga mat which provides a waterproof membrane to save the foam from a soaking........still awaiting some news from the upholsterer  :)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Mar 24, 2016, 20:56:06
Progress: Me and my neighbour, Cyril, sparked up my old MIG and stuck the hoop permanently in place.

Here's the obligatory workshop shot with flying sparks....

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160324_190345_zpsnqg86sog.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160324_190345_zpsnqg86sog.jpg.html)

...and the semi finished item.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160324_194513_zpspkkz6t8m.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160324_194513_zpspkkz6t8m.jpg.html)

Started cleaning the welds up and got the rear guard mounting tabs and rear subframe gussets to weld, think I'll have a practice and do them myself....this MIG lark looks a piece of piss ;)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Mar 28, 2016, 15:37:23
Good day today, got some done and very pleased with the results...considering it's my first time MIG welding. I've not gone crazy cleaning the welds down to zero, I've left some weld in place, it's on the inside of the fram and won't be seen heheh.

First mock up....

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160328_173228_zpsfrql5yfh.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160328_173228_zpsfrql5yfh.jpg.html)

The eagle eyed amongst you lot will notice the mounting tab holes are not aligned....that's 'cos the used guard mounting holes were not aligned either...rather than drill multi holes I thought to just use what was there. Again, all under the seat and out of sight.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160328_173220_zps0n0glypd.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160328_173220_zps0n0glypd.jpg.html)

The indicators mount through a small web I made and should work OK, snug fit and not too obvious....they need final fettling to get them horizontal.

The forward guard mounting point is a single long bolt through the airfilter box...works well enough, I'll find a spacer in due course.

Gloss black rattle can top coat over a zinc base....proper shed paint job ;)

Couldn't resist a quick mock up with it in paint....anyone who spots a fault will get a poke in the eye haha!

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160328_184910_zpssjsszvl4.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160328_184910_zpssjsszvl4.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160328_184926_zpspvmjmzfv.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160328_184926_zpspvmjmzfv.jpg.html)

Pleased with my day's efforts....loads still to do, but this stage is a major step forward.

Thanks for checking in.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Kanticoy on Mar 29, 2016, 23:54:53
Looks great NR!


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Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Apr 18, 2016, 18:43:51
Masking....

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160418_201555_zpsi544om7r.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160418_201555_zpsi544om7r.jpg.html)

I'm getting frustrated by the lack of progress on this project....sooo......I will dedicate 2-3 hours per end of the day for 3-4 days per week and all day Saturdays for the next 3-4 weeks (where possible, as I do have commitments) to move forward.

Order information
Order Reference No: 215534
2 x Brake pads, Front (9.00) - 18.00
1 x Brake pads, Rear (15.00) - 15.00
1 x Oil filter (8.50) - 8.50
1 x 10W/40 4-stroke semi-synthetic motorcycle oil, 4 Litres (18.95) - 18.95
1 x Black VHT spray paint (4.95) - 4.95

Total: 65.40
Delivery: 5.85
Total inc VAT: 85.50

Let's see how I get on.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Apr 18, 2016, 18:44:17
Looks great NR!


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Thank you Kanty :-)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Apr 19, 2016, 12:45:01
Very small progress notice.

Used carbs turned up, need a slider/diaphragm out of one choke, total cost 30 delivered = result. One fella on fleabay wanted 23 for a pair of sliders alone...get the fuck out of here mate!!

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160419_115352_zpsrsf0xxc1.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160419_115352_zpsrsf0xxc1.jpg.html)

Awaiting David Silver delivery of brake pads/oil/filter/VHT etc :)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Apr 28, 2016, 19:37:07
For the sake of an update:

Had evening on the wire wheel, not bad considering the size/shape of it....

Before:

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160427_210734_zpsmvq5nltl.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160427_210734_zpsmvq5nltl.jpg.html)

After:

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160427_222333_zpsemjhajue.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160427_222333_zpsemjhajue.jpg.html)

Burnished rather than polished.

Engine is halfway painted (I'll post an image when it's complete).....I have located steel tube to make mudguard stays...looking to relocate the ignition switch....brake pads are in so I can rebuild the wheels/hubs etc. Seat has a change of plan, original upholsterer had to stop work due to a bereavement and family commitments, but I have found another local guy who does work for Williams F1, hope to have it back within 2-3 weeks. That's all for now.....
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Weasel on May 15, 2016, 17:18:02
Looking good!
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on May 16, 2016, 18:30:55
Looking good!

Thanx weasel.

First build up of the rear end - brakes, sprocket and re-positioned the rear guard now that I have the seat back from the upholsterer. Starting to look more like it.....;)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/962831f7-424b-4951-86c1-2cc72a905f02_zpsn2qucwdp.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/962831f7-424b-4951-86c1-2cc72a905f02_zpsn2qucwdp.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160516_203747_zpsrjddywp2.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160516_203747_zpsrjddywp2.jpg.html)

Reversed the colours due to material shortage....think it turned out nice?

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160516_203759_zpsevhm6fnq.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160516_203759_zpsevhm6fnq.jpg.html)

Brakes/hub turned out smart enough.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160516_203816_zpsgxnhvprf.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160516_203816_zpsgxnhvprf.jpg.html)

The tank has been pickling in malt vinegar for a good few days now......think I'll pick up some rattle cans and give it a go later this week.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on May 19, 2016, 13:58:20
Minor update - got the tank rattle canned first attempt....needs flatting and another can's worth but looking good enough....still got to decide on the middle colour and decals.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160519_172835_zps83curkzb.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160519_172835_zps83curkzb.jpg.html)

The piss flap works....;)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160519_172856_zpsv0raopa4.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160519_172856_zpsv0raopa4.jpg.html)

I'm painting a centre band along the top of the tank from forks to seat and was thinking of solid mid grey or maybe metallic graphite? The grey would match the 300mm long HONDA decals I plan to use along the lower tank edge....however, it was suggested last night I might want to tie into the seat a bit more, so maybe use a colour to, sort of, match the tan leather of the seat? I can think of using a metallic burnt amber/dark orange which might work...even with grey decals as I can have orange/grey/amber subtle pin striping done to tie it all together.

What does the DTT collective think?

Side view.
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160519_172913_zps7fsz2kbp.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160519_172913_zps7fsz2kbp.jpg.html)

My favourite bit of the bike....

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160519_172928_zpsoeeouv4b.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160519_172928_zpsoeeouv4b.jpg.html)

Just got a three C spanner set come in and preloading the shock. Kempton Park this Saturday and got's me a shopping list:

Headlamp mounts - cast alloy/black or alloy finish?
Side panel number roundels - aluminium
4x way spade fit fuse box
3 & 5mm aluminium plate - for mounting/adapter brackets

.....and any other shit that catches my eye haha!

That's it for now, thanks for dropping by and a special thank you to those who contribute and offer advice and encouragement...cheers chaps.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on May 21, 2016, 17:38:13
Yet another cracking day mooching around Kempton Park Motorcycle Jumble today, scored most of what I wanted to find, 3mm T6 alli sheet, tank rubbers, headlight mountssome neat alloy cable ties (for that old skool look) and liquid gasket lube. Also, picked up a bike lift/paddock stand jobbie which lifts on the swing arm for 19 BNIB.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160521_164701_zpslnm7uzsp.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160521_164701_zpslnm7uzsp.jpg.html)

Tank rubbers are too long to go with the HONDA decal...hmmm...do I drop the decal, add the rubbers and a large Honda wing logo or order a slightly shorter decal instead?

Spotted this exceptional bike today in the show hall......a perfect blend of old and new...show of the event IMO. Took a gander at the new Brough SS100....honestly, I don't like it at all....ugly, over designed and just plain irritating design ques.....apparently it sounds good though. Much prefer this NorZook:

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160521_114952_zpscs0wyxvz.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160521_114952_zpscs0wyxvz.jpg.html)

Can you spot the new from the old?
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on May 22, 2016, 09:33:08
Still cleaning, still detailing, still satisfying ;)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160522_123500_zps0fkj8tpo.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160522_123500_zps0fkj8tpo.jpg.html)

Pads or no pads.....I still like the large HONDA decal idea....hmmm??

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160522_204752_zpsrrydcben.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160522_204752_zpsrrydcben.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160522_123541_zps5qwrlvsy.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160522_123541_zps5qwrlvsy.jpg.html)

As I'm struggling to remember how the bike goes back together, having stripped it 2 years ago, I found a CBX at Kempton, so took a few shots of the footrest/suspension/brake areas as a reference....should've done this back then - lesson learned haha!
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on May 24, 2016, 18:22:53
Piecing together the footrest/Prolink mounting bolts, from a photo of a CBX at the weekend, and a process of logical elimination ....getting there.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160522_193723_zpso59lcpny.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160522_193723_zpso59lcpny.jpg.html)



Anyone else forget how it goes together.....how do you recall the sequence?
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: dualero on May 25, 2016, 08:40:12
Workshop manual?

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Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Maritime on May 25, 2016, 08:48:40
Sometimes the parts fiche show the order of bits as well. Nice work it's really coming along.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on May 25, 2016, 12:47:13
Workshop manual?

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I have a Haynes manual which does show some images of the component parts which is some help Dually. I took a few images of another CBX which is also useful....and I'm figuring it out as well  ;D
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on May 25, 2016, 12:48:53
Sometimes the parts fiche show the order of bits as well. Nice work it's really coming along.

I don't have one or access to a fische, but do know what you mean, very useful. I'm slowly figuring it out.

Thank you....I'm pleased with the way it's shaping up...details take time I find. Plus the long list of jobs still to do....really must jot something down haha  :-\
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Kamn on May 25, 2016, 12:58:14
maybe their parts fiche here can help, just find your model or the closest model to yours
http://www.cmsnl.com/honda-motorcycles_model2/
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Maritime on May 25, 2016, 13:12:47
Thanks Kamn I was just about to post that same link.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Kamn on May 25, 2016, 13:45:42
Thanks Kamn I was just about to post that same link.

NP, I use them a lot for part numbers and stuff
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Maritime on May 25, 2016, 13:48:07
Me too, bikebandit has some too but they don't have the Euro Canadian bikes and we need those so cmsnl is a better choice.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on May 25, 2016, 20:12:14
maybe their parts fiche here can help, just find your model or the closest model to yours
http://www.cmsnl.com/honda-motorcycles_model2/

Thank you Kamn.....great idea, but CBX550 isn't listed :-(
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on May 31, 2016, 14:49:24
Got some done over the weekend....

Front brakes rebuilt and mounted.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160531_175626_zpsvw7iajcv.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160531_175626_zpsvw7iajcv.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160531_175949_zpsj0iohtw1.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160531_175949_zpsj0iohtw1.jpg.html)

I'm liking the overall look.....like an old Brit TLS system I reckon. I'm pleased I bought a job lot of braided lines as I had to chop n change until I got them to fit/route neatly (longer than I first thought) and allow for suspension movement. Sussing out the splitter mount took time, but was able to re-use the stock Honda bracket in the end. Still need new bleed nipples to complete as well as P clips to hold them in place.

This is a cheeky mock up of the speedo....need to make a bracket yet and will use stock rubber mounts.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160531_175841_zpsjbmpd7js.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160531_175841_zpsjbmpd7js.jpg.html)

Slowly swapping out stock bolts for stainless where possible....takes so much time, but I'm happy with the way it changes the look.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160531_180019_zpsrluvvg4j.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160531_180019_zpsrluvvg4j.jpg.html)

I've cleaned up the fuse cover and removed the 'FUSE' and 'ignition' marks, a few more coats to go, and this is where I'll mount the idiot lights as the fuse box will be relocated under the seat. Wrapped the stock loom with cloth tape for the old school look, much better than shiny plastic.

Had to drop the forks out to fit the cast alloy satin black headlight mounts, but think they suit the style, final position tbc.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160531_180058_zps9dm5rxht.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160531_180058_zps9dm5rxht.jpg.html)


Still need to fabricate the front guard mounts and chop it down to size, I'm keeping it practical so maybe just level with the spindle and the leading edge where it is now to keep the balance....too short looks a bit silly.

The chain will be the last component I fit....kinda like a topping out ceremony haha!

Thanks for checking in, feel free to add your tuppence worth.


Oh yeah, and for shits n giggles....we ran a few tunnels in London, Saturday midnight :-)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/BrownBUG-Tunnelrun2016_zps7q4zshfk.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/BrownBUG-Tunnelrun2016_zps7q4zshfk.jpg.html)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: CrabsAndCylinders on Jun 01, 2016, 14:59:07
Do you still need advice on reassembly?  I can take a look at my stock Canadian CBX550 and take pics, if that helps.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jun 01, 2016, 19:57:53
Do you still need advice on reassembly?  I can take a look at my stock Canadian CBX550 and take pics, if that helps.

Thank you C&C, very kind of you, but I actually took some snaps of a CBX at the bike jumble (swap meet) I was at recently, certainly helped with the footorest/Prolink area haha, should've done it before tearing it apart....doh!.


 Tonight: Not a bad effort I reckon, in a draughty workshop with a rattle can....wet flatted the first coats with 500, dried and shot a few coats (until the can ran out) trying to get a reasonably smooth finish. It'll look better with the other colour, flip cap and decal/kneepad I hope.


(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160601_215527_zpsdzeojwcq.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160601_215527_zpsdzeojwcq.jpg.html)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Northish on Jun 02, 2016, 17:29:37
I'll be interested to see how the tank turns out as I will be going the "draughty workshop with a rattle can" route as well.  Tank looks good to me so far!  And the whole bike overall  :)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jun 03, 2016, 06:44:09
I'll be interested to see how the tank turns out as I will be going the "draughty workshop with a rattle can" route as well.  Tank looks good to me so far!  And the whole bike overall  :)

Well, taking a good look in daylight does reveal classic rattlecan 'stripes'...so buying yet another can, but replacing the nozzle with another type that allows a vertical/horizontal fan spray which should spread the paint more evenly I hope? It's coming along and the more coats the better to work it/polish it so I'm still hopeful of a decent enough finish in the end.

I'm pleased with the way the bike is coming together...winging it to some extent, but happy so far. Really trying to push to get it done.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: YoungMoneyyy on Jun 03, 2016, 09:05:42

Pads or no pads.....I still like the large HONDA decal idea....hmmm??

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160522_204752_zpsrrydcben.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160522_204752_zpsrrydcben.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160522_123541_zps5qwrlvsy.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160522_123541_zps5qwrlvsy.jpg.html)


Hey mate, Just found your build, This is great inspiration for me as I just picked up a CB650 and looking to do a brat/tracker/scrambler type build...
I personally would say no to the pads and YES to the Honda decals...
that seat is money!
keep up the good work man!
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jun 03, 2016, 12:02:16
Thanx youngmoney....I'm still a bit  :-\ tbh. Pads or decal, pads or decal...bloody hell!!

In other news, a decision has been made...hurrah!

I am looking at mounting the single speedo dead centre off the top yoke (using the old ignition switch mount holes) and have rigged a tin template, for 3mm ally sheet which will be shaped like a keyhole and rubber mounted to support the speedo head. I had also cleaned up the fuse cover to accept the 4x LED idiot lights and wiring, however...having finished the cover I'm loathe to cut & clutter it up with the LEDs as it looks soo clean and tidy as it is.

So, my other option was to extend the speedo mount height by 1cm and tuck the LEDs between the speedo and yoke/fuse cover like in the image:

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160603_143338_zpsdukmnpyn.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160603_143338_zpsdukmnpyn.jpg.html)

I won't have the washers in place of course and the ally plate will be shaped around the entire speedo head and pinched in where the blue lines are.

I prefer this set up as I don't have to relocate the fuse box, the cover stays untouched and the LEDs will be tucked away rather than in yer face.....which I likey. And the speedo being 1cm further away from the yoke I can live with....I think Gentlemen....that's what we call a conclusion? :D I thang yoo.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: CrabsAndCylinders on Jun 03, 2016, 14:46:57
I don't think the colour of the pads works with that tank colour.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jun 03, 2016, 15:27:27
I don't think the colour of the pads works with that tank colour.

The tank colour isn't finished yet, still a stripe along the top, front to back, detailed pin striping and a different decal perhaps.  I still like the large HONDA decal though...decisions decisions :/
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: CrabsAndCylinders on Jun 03, 2016, 15:45:44
Depending on the colour of the stripe, it may tie the tank and pad colours together.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jun 03, 2016, 15:59:41
Well...now you mention it C&C...the stripe colour was going to be solid mid grey, kinda battleship (or steel wheel like some of the components I've painted) with orange coachlines alongside....but then I thought wait, I might match the tan leather on the seat in some way (the seat turned out the other way around, meant to have tan diamond and black surround but material shortages forced a rethink which I'm more than happy with, but the knock on effect still rings)....and, hereby lies my dilemma....grey to match the HONDA decals (no pads) or tan to match the seat and have pads....arrghh!!

It's doing my head in a bit...so I'm cleaning out the vinegar from the tank derust process and parking this issue for the moment...ha!
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jun 04, 2016, 05:47:27
Another small job jobbed.

Number plate...done...BOOM. Cheap previously used raised plastic letters on a rubberised back plate will do the trick and tie in with the retro look.

I know it's not legal in the UK, if I encounter an MOT problem it'll get a reflective one cable tied in place haha!

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160604_093250_zpsywcw40ha.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160604_093250_zpsywcw40ha.jpg.html)

6/10 for shed precision spacing/straightness :p
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jun 12, 2016, 16:35:12
Righto, the weather was kind to me today ie: it pissed with rain so gardening was off and garage was ON!!

Going back a long while now, I ordered a generic rear brake master cylinder which is nearly correct for the Honda mounts, but the orientation of the pedal lever put the main shaft out of alignment, I knew this and had always planned a cheeky offset mount. Got to make it today out of the 3mm alloy I had bought a few weeks back.

Here's the problem...

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/1fec92fb-090a-4d82-a332-2234deb8d823_zpsqdcmfryt.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/1fec92fb-090a-4d82-a332-2234deb8d823_zpsqdcmfryt.jpg.html)

So, out came the hacksaw, drill and bench belt sander to produce this masterpiece.....

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160612_151821_zpsr0sdtfda.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160612_151821_zpsr0sdtfda.jpg.html)

The little notches are to clear the MC body, came out OK I think.

Here it is in place, nudged against the MC body....

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160612_172108_zpsx6czpcqi.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160612_172108_zpsx6czpcqi.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160612_172136_zpsofdgx2hs.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160612_172136_zpsofdgx2hs.jpg.html)

This shot shows the shaft alignment is now straight, pleased with that.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160612_172128_zps7ivvowzq.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160612_172128_zps7ivvowzq.jpg.html)

Routed the braided line and fitted up the footrest mount after another session on the wirewheel, came out OK. Swapped a few bolts for s/s capheads and stitched it all up...finally I hope?

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160612_172156_zpsu759bz3x.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160612_172156_zpsu759bz3x.jpg.html)

Thought to remove the front master as a brake bleed is nearing fruition....BLOODY HELL! where the effin 'ell did all that gunk come from?

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160612_174142_zpsomb33adw.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160612_174142_zpsomb33adw.jpg.html)

An hour later, having used brake cleaner - no good, WD40 - a bit better, boiling water - melted it away. I then used WD40 again to clean out the piston cylinder until it pumped out clean, spent time on it and I'm pleased it's come up clean enough.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160612_183811_zps27svonao.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160612_183811_zps27svonao.jpg.html)

Refurbed the lever pivot, cleaned up the mount and changed to allen bolts. While trying to clean up the MC cover, I gave it a quickie on the wirewheel.......looks mucho better I reckon.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160612_193942_zps3mwewbei.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160612_193942_zps3mwewbei.jpg.html)

So, a productive day was productive :D
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jun 13, 2016, 19:14:11
Small update - thought I'd try and bleed the front brakes today, but filled the reservoir, opened one caliper bleed nipple and pumped the lever...nothing. Not much fluid movement save for a small/slight blow back from the transfer hole to the main piston chamber?

I've stripped the M/c to check all is well with the seals and they appear to be in good order, small amount of remaining crud but nothing too bad.

I get the feeling I have to prime the system before bleeding....never done it on a bike before.

System comprises, handlebar mounted M/C and reservoir, single braided flexi to T splitter then two single braids to each caliper. I had only opened one caliper nipple. Using a pipe and jar with 2cm of fluid in it to bleed....like I would do a car.

Can anyone shed some light on how to do it from dry please? I think priming will help, if I can figure a way to do it that is.

I have a syringe and 1ltr of brand new DOT4 synthetic fluid.

Thank you.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jun 13, 2016, 20:01:30
Thanks to some timely and excellent advice from three members, delivered in double quick time, I now have an MO for tomorrow's efforts to bleed the front brakes.

Hillsy
Doc-rot
Adventurco

I'll be sure and report my results. Thanks guys.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Maritime on Jun 14, 2016, 14:19:49
Hey, I posted some stuff that might help in the brake bleed thread, then I came over here to see if I could tell what kind of bleed nipples you had on her but I can't tell. In future also one of the best thing to clean old brake fluid out of your system is brake fluid. other cleaners can contaminate your system and cause the new fluid to break down quicker.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: canyoncarver on Jun 14, 2016, 14:59:54
Isopropyl alcohol is what I use for cleaning master cylinders and brake internals.  Your master was nasty.  Looks much better now.  Did you pull the plunger apart and clean in there?
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Maritime on Jun 14, 2016, 15:03:47
Isopropyl alcohol is what I use for cleaning master cylinders and brake internals.  Your master was nasty.  Looks much better now.  Did you pull the plunger apart and clean in there?

Alcohol would be safe, evaporates and leaves no residues to bugger with brake fluid.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: canyoncarver on Jun 14, 2016, 15:06:04
Alcohol would be safe, evaporates and leaves no residues to bugger with brake fluid.


Exactly, and it dissolves the crud nicely.  (Also recommended in the service manuals...)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jun 14, 2016, 18:34:53
Isopropyl alcohol is what I use for cleaning master cylinders and brake internals.  Your master was nasty.  Looks much better now.  Did you pull the plunger apart and clean in there?

Alcohol OK, didn't have any so used carb cleaner which is safe on diaphragms, so thought it OK to use. I think it might have damaged the seal as bleeding isn't happening any time soon :-/

I did pull it apart and cleaned the insides, not to much gunk and it all went back together well enough.

The rear bled nicely, with a new m/c, pumped fluid nicely through, whereas the front feels weak and just about moves fluid, I don't like it but I think a repair kit is on the shopping list.

Thank you all for your advice and input, appreciate you taking the time to get me there, cheers. Colin
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Psycrow on Jun 15, 2016, 09:05:00
Carb cleaner is nasty stuff and terrible to rubber.. brake cleaner is what you want.. it's mostly alcohol and evaporates with no residue or damage to rubber...
Love the build btw. ..

Psy

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Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jun 15, 2016, 09:42:18
Carb cleaner is nasty stuff and terrible to rubber.. brake cleaner is what you want.. it's mostly alcohol and evaporates with no residue or damage to rubber...
Love the build btw. ..

Psy

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Ah, OK...I used Wurth brake cleaner but it didn't touch the gel gunk, whereas the carb cleaner did...I thought as it could be used on carbs with rubber diaphragms it's be OK, sadly that decision may have bitten me in the arse :(

I'm resigned to rebuilding the m/c me thinks.

And, thanx it's shaping up much how I imagined....:)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: djmaynard on Jun 15, 2016, 13:19:54
That's the problem with plug leads - they can "look" OK !!!!!

They're so cheap [ or knit your own ], it's not worth taking a chance on.

Having been involved directly with the development of plug leads [ 8mm silicone Hi-Po jobbies ] - and done considerable testing with OEM units [ new and used ] - they would be my first item to change / replace.

A quick trawl of E-Bay will get you the Hi-Po silicone 8mm wire for something like 3.00 / metre !!

Here's some I developed for RAM [ BMW Kay series ]

(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc472/manfredvonheyda/S%20ON%20AVON%20024_zpshdeawlps.jpg) (http://s1213.photobucket.com/user/manfredvonheyda/media/S%20ON%20AVON%20024_zpshdeawlps.jpg.html)

(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc472/manfredvonheyda/DSCF01041_zps9e211689.jpg) (http://s1213.photobucket.com/user/manfredvonheyda/media/DSCF01041_zps9e211689.jpg.html)

Those are looking sharp. Didn't know they were inexpensive. Sweet.




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Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Psycrow on Jun 15, 2016, 13:27:46
Carb cleaner is for the Jets emulsion tubes and carb bodies after rubber and felt O rings and gaskets are removed. Those master cylinder seals are pretty robust a small amount of carb cleaner will not immediately destroy them. If your master is leaking from around the piston just drain and disassemble and polish the bore. There must be crud keeping the rubber seal from making a good seal while moving up and down the bore.. however make sure that's where it's leaking from. It's more common to leak from the master's cover or from around the banjo bolt. .. you do have 2 copper crush washers on either side of the master's banjo bolt?.

Psy

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Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: xb33bsa on Jun 15, 2016, 15:49:27
fantastic work on the bike there
on the brake bleeding first things first, you bench bleed the master
fancy words it just means bleed the master as a seperate deal before you move to bleed the system as a unit
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jun 15, 2016, 20:00:50
Thanks for all the feedback and advice everyone, I feel a final strip down of the m/c to check n clean it again is on the cards before going ahead with a repro m/c from a trusted supplier,David Silver in the UK, as  I can get a complete repro m/c for 30 whereas a repro repair kit is 25....hope the repro m/c works out?

Thank you XB33...I'm doing my best on my jack jones, save for a very helpful neighbour.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jun 16, 2016, 18:52:03
Righto....in lieu of the new m/c arriving early next week, I'm onto the carbs/throttle.

We all know what a dirty set of carbs looks like, but I'l still leave these with you for comparative purposes later on.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160616_190241_zpsjzwke7fa.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160616_190241_zpsjzwke7fa.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160616_190253_zps65tdypmt.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160616_190253_zps65tdypmt.jpg.html)

Although a job I wasn't particularly looking forward to I got on with it and they soon came away, once a subtle prising eased the intakes off the rubber housings.

I have a complete spare set which I'm using as a reference and donor if needed.

More of the progress when I can.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jun 17, 2016, 15:51:18
Righto....in lieu of the new m/c arriving early next week, I'm onto the carbs/throttle.

We all know what a dirty set of carbs looks like, but I'l still leave these with you for comparative purposes later on.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160616_190241_zpsjzwke7fa.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160616_190241_zpsjzwke7fa.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160616_190253_zps65tdypmt.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160616_190253_zps65tdypmt.jpg.html)


I managed to find time this arvo to set about the carbs, laboriously working my way through each carb (remembering to mark them) having undone the link bars and choke mechanism, finally separating them by the fuel/vacuum pipes and disengaging the throttle levers.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160617_191517_zpsl2rg9hdd.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160617_191517_zpsl2rg9hdd.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160617_191538_zpsz32w8a6u.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160617_191538_zpsz32w8a6u.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160617_191546_zps2yfqlxod.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160617_191546_zps2yfqlxod.jpg.html)

Stage 1: Degreasing outside with h/d de-greaser which is excellent, brisk scrub using her hair dye applicator brush, nice and stiff but flat and ideal for getting into nooks and crannies.

Stage 2: On the bench, a quick wipe and then strip down choke plunger, polish ready to go back. Remove diaphragm cap to clean inside and replace with cleaned up caps. Replaced one diaphragm as the seal had mishapen on the old one making the piston slower to rise than the others. Remove float bowl, bit of crud low down but nothing too onerous (given the time it's sat), quick Wurth carb cleaner get it very clean, very quickly, awesome stuff.

Stage 3: Rebuild each carb (did this as I went, one at a time) replacing some screws with allen/button screws instead. Replaced the fuel link pipe O rings. Wire-wheeled small brackets and fixing bars which came out OK I think.
NB: I would've struggled if I didn't have the spare set to use as a guide, priceless!

I hope the float bowl seals don't leak as I reused the old one's (gulp), all in all I'm very pleased with the way they look, not too flashy, just purposefully clean and smart :D

Thanks for checking in everyone. Colin
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: CrabsAndCylinders on Jun 17, 2016, 15:54:28
They look very nice!
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jun 17, 2016, 15:58:35
They look very nice!

Cheers Crabs&Clymidia.......I reused parts so they're not 100% perfect looking, but good enough for me ;) Hope they work OK? They always did so I'm not too concerned tbh.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: CrabsAndCylinders on Jun 17, 2016, 16:01:22
Cheers Crabs&Clymidia.......I reused parts so they're not 100% perfect looking, but good enough for me ;) Hope they work OK? They always did so I'm not too concerned tbh.

The crabs feed off of the clams, by the way.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Psycrow on Jun 17, 2016, 16:16:52
NR they look great to me.. you should be fine if those bowl gaskets were not completely shot.. if you do get a leak replace them .. resist the urge to go monkey boy on the bowl screws.

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Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jun 17, 2016, 17:16:10
.. resist the urge to go monkey boy on the bowl screws...

Thank you.

I nipped then pinched them up with an allen key.

I could try a cheeky pre-fitment petrol fill up of the bowls I suppose...hmmm?
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jun 18, 2016, 15:54:40
Cracking on today with fiddly, but important detailing of clutch lever spindle lube, choke & throttle cable (x2 pull/pull system) lube and clean up of mechanisms prior to fitting the carbs back on. Cleaned the 4x inlet clamps and minor fittings to get as much cleaned so they don't let the other stuff down.

I have to say, the bench wirewheel is worth it's salt and I do love a good session on it. The quality of the Honda screws and fittings is impressive, 1982 bike and they come up like new.

Polished the choke lever for shit n giggles and to match the m/c cover on the other side.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160618_155947_zpstirachuc.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160618_155947_zpstirachuc.jpg.html)

Carbs slid on with no problems (with a smear of silicon grease), cables were a bit fiddly, mainly due to me having not done them before, all sorted and working as they should which is good progress.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160618_155921_zps4vwifieu.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160618_155921_zps4vwifieu.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160618_155905_zps8rgun51t.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160618_155905_zps8rgun51t.jpg.html)

Spotted the starter solenoid looking sorry for itself, so 10 minutes later after a degrease and wirewheel and it's looking much nicer.

Before.
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160618_141601_zpszfrwj0kx.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160618_141601_zpszfrwj0kx.jpg.html)

After.
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160618_143043_zpsnazjxszp.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160618_143043_zpsnazjxszp.jpg.html)

Ordered some breather and fuel pipe as well as proper clips....don't like using jubilee clips on small bore rubber pipe, they look shite and don't do up round so I don't trust them.

Half way through mounting the ignition switch under the seat by the air filter box....more anon.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: xb33bsa on Jun 18, 2016, 21:35:46
jew-bullyclips ? :o :-X
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jun 19, 2016, 06:48:45
jew-bullyclips ? :o :-X

Haha...over here they're called Jubilee and look like this:

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/Jewbully_zpsvy8sssmb.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/Jewbully_zpsvy8sssmb.jpg.html)

OK in larger format for water hose etc, but in the small form-factor they suck.

I prefer these as they close up on pipe rather nicely and they look good as well, far less cumbersome and clunky IMO.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/Fuelclips_zps4gucn3za.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/Fuelclips_zps4gucn3za.jpg.html)

Thanks for popping by...
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: xb33bsa on Jun 20, 2016, 01:48:20
its too bad nobody has adopted the clampless hose deals like aeroquip has for gasoline/fuel
the the fitting end what pushes into the hose requires no clamps and is good for 250 psi
 
see the hose has got braided reiforceement to limit stretch the fittings have perfectly sized and shaped barbs
once you puish a fitting in hose and give it a few twist to let the undercut barbs to cut in the only way to seperate it ,is cutting the hose off its bitchen

http://aeroquipperformance.com/lookup.html?supercat=12
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jun 20, 2016, 07:14:05
its too bad nobody has adopted the clampless hose deals like aeroquip has for gasoline/fuel
the the fitting end what pushes into the hose requires no clamps and is good for 250 psi
 
see the hose has got braided reiforceement to limit stretch the fittings have perfectly sized and shaped barbs
once you puish a fitting in hose and give it a few twist to let the undercut barbs to cut in the only way to seperate it ,is cutting the hose off its bitchen

http://aeroquipperformance.com/lookup.html?supercat=12

Aeroquip does look like some top gear, confusing array of options though, so one would need to know what type to use.

What project/bike have you used this on XB33? Be good to see it in real life situation.

I think for my humble project good quality R6 fuel line will do fine.
Ethynol in fuel today is perishing old fuel lines as well as plastic fittings such as fuel gauge floats etc.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: xb33bsa on Jun 20, 2016, 17:37:39
Aeroquip does look like some top gear, confusing array of options though, so one would need to know what type to use.

What project/bike have you used this on XB33? Be good to see it in real life situation.

I think for my humble project good quality R6 fuel line will do fine.
Ethynol in fuel today is perishing old fuel lines as well as plastic fittings such as fuel gauge floats etc.
i havent used it as fuel line was just sayin the concept was neat
the hydraulics repair and service shop i worked in had a complete hardware store of all kinds of shit and aeroquip was a majpr supplier so i was exposed to it there
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jun 20, 2016, 18:45:23
I have been thinking about some form of bash plate to continue the scrambler look and had a few ideas sprialling around my mind....so, I should mock the zorst just to see how it looks, here's the result of my cheeky mock up.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160620_221435_zpsm6pvjotn.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160620_221435_zpsm6pvjotn.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160620_221420_zpsifsko8w5.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160620_221420_zpsifsko8w5.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160620_221354_zps6bd5l7o0.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160620_221354_zps6bd5l7o0.jpg.html)

Not sure a bash plate could be made to work as the down pipes are so far from the engine it'd look a bit weird I reckon.

And yes, the downpipes are different colours.....platinum outside and black inside as I had thought the lighter outer wraps and darker inners would give it the looks of a twin....didn't come out as I have imagined tbh.

I'm toying with shortening the centre section which will pull the silencer back towards the engine/undercarriage which could look cool......but it involves cutting n shutting it....maybe in phase2?

For now, I'm pleased with how it looks.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jun 22, 2016, 16:05:59
Finally....I have front brakes that work...hurrah.

The new m/c unit worked out of the box, bled through first time and I now have firm feel on the lever. I'll leave it for a day or so and bleed them again.

Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jun 25, 2016, 13:32:47
Wiring...that is all!

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160625_170834_zpsmfvg4khj.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160625_170834_zpsmfvg4khj.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160625_170913_zpsfv3lspyo.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160625_170913_zpsfv3lspyo.jpg.html)

Now you see them....

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160625_170946_zpsfdamww7o.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160625_170946_zpsfdamww7o.jpg.html)

...and, now you don't :)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160625_171112_zpst2o58mfn.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160625_171112_zpst2o58mfn.jpg.html)

Made very good progress today, working alongside my son who made sense of the wiring and the mods I needed to make as I've relocated the ignition switch from dash to under the seat...entailed cutting into the main loom and branching off the ignition wiring with a few mods along the way. Sticky sticky mess but it's getting there....I'm very pleased, thank you Matthew :)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jul 08, 2016, 18:42:25
A job I'd had in mind for sometime now was how to mount the front mudguard. I really liked the hooped frame style like the old skool trials bikes.......you see the theme I'm following right?

So, what materials to use? I had bought a double hoop frame mount but it was to tight and chromed, so my son has it now.

I sourced a friend who could roll/bend 8mm thickwall mild steel tube which was well worth the drink he wanted.

I chopped the original Honda mudguard bracket as all I wanted was the end mount hole section. This would provide the perfect mounting plate to which I weld the steel hoops to. These were cut to size and slotted to fit the plate ready for a drop of weld.

Here's how phase one turned out:

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160708_202159_zpslvan6qri.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160708_202159_zpslvan6qri.jpg.html)

Since this image I've cleaned the plates up and ground down the rough edges ready for paint.

Here's a shot of the hoops in place. You can just see the hoops slid over the plate.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160708_192221_zps9t9ncxnf.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160708_192221_zps9t9ncxnf.jpg.html)

I'll weld a tab so I can bolt the guard to the frame.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160708_192230_zpsr4blj41j.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160708_192230_zpsr4blj41j.jpg.html)

I plan to paint them gloss black I reckon. Welding tomorrow.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jul 09, 2016, 18:33:29
Welding and precision grinding.......  :)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: xb33bsa on Jul 09, 2016, 19:31:23
in my opinion that fender bracket is outstandingly perfect actually ,..... you designed it yourself ,it perfoms the function perfectly with a very pleasing aesthetic,you like it and it looks the business
you might consider using some kind of p clamp (adel clamp)to join the fender to the tubing in say 4 locations no more welding needed either
you can get very trick looking ones ,stainless steel with for example white teflon or blue silicone rubber lined
https://www.google.com/search?q=silicone+lined+p+clamp&rlz=1C1FLDB_enUS562US569&espv=2&biw=1371&bih=765&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiw6fjetufNAhVC7GMKHYMWBQoQ_AUIBygC#tbm=isch&q=silicone+lined+p+clamp+aircraft+adel+
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: xb33bsa on Jul 09, 2016, 19:37:20
my other opinion is the fender nedds rotating forward an hour maybe 2 hours
try that and stand back and look .....unless you are going for the snub-nose .38 revolver look
i am not a fan of the front fender rotated back/bobbed back that far ,obvuiously many are we see a lot of it
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jul 10, 2016, 07:22:28
my other opinion is the fender nedds rotating forward an hour maybe 2 hours
try that and stand back and look .....unless you are going for the snub-nose .38 revolver look
i am not a fan of the front fender rotated back/bobbed back that far, obviously many are we see a lot of it

Thanks Xbsa, it's turned out pretty much how I intended, it's not perfect but looks the part. I hadn't thought of P clips to mount the guard....hmmm, quite like the orange lined versions? I was to weld two centrally mounted shaped washers using buttonheads (smooth on the tyre side) and domed s/s nut on top. Abel clips not available on UK Ebay....but I could use some orange silicon tube I already have and line a bare clip instead?? ;-)

I pondered a long while the exact guard position and each 10mm either way makes a visual difference, you're right, position is everything. I have one eye on practicality and, working with a used item which had previously been trimmed, had to cut n shape the rear end as best I could with what I had.

I rather like the moderate 'snub nose' as I think it offers a balanced look with enough rear guard to offer some splash protection....I might even add a mud flap :-)

Thanks for checking in  :)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jul 11, 2016, 20:24:04
Well, from a few bits of metal I've managed to knock this guard mount out. Cut, weld, grind, fit, re-fit to the power of 10 and it's together at last.

I very pleased with the way it looks, I just hope there's enough real world clearance haha! What do you think?

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160711_205018_zpsdj1ikvep.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160711_205018_zpsdj1ikvep.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160711_205036_zps89rtbs0d.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160711_205036_zps89rtbs0d.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160711_205150_zpsccgep5as.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160711_205150_zpsccgep5as.jpg.html)

I like the overall view from 3 mtrs, think I got it right ;)

Oh, I gave the tank a quick compounding and it came up a treat me thinks :-)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160711_230418_zps930bnetr.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160711_230418_zps930bnetr.jpg.html)

The eagle eyed will have spotted the oil filter nut is now polished...well done. I drained the oil and changed an O ring in one of the oil cooler feeds and the filter. Resisted polishing the filter cover....must resist.

Old hawkeye may also have spotted the oval piece on the guard...it's an old ally metal label turned over and riveted to cover two ugly old mounting holes.

Question: I'd like to run some fuel through the carbs so check the float bowl gaskets hold. Is it just a matter of running a pipe direct to the feed spigot from a funnel/pipe?

Thank you.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Northish on Jul 11, 2016, 21:02:38
Holy smokes, NoRiders, you've been busy these past few months :)  Compared to where you've started it's quite a different bike already.  Cool stuff, sir!  Nice front fender; looks British :)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jul 11, 2016, 21:45:58
Holy smokes, NoRiders, you've been busy these past few months :)  Compared to where you've started it's quite a different bike already.  Cool stuff, sir!  Nice front fender; looks British :)

Ah...well, I've been making the effort to find time....I can see it coming together now :-)

I wanted an old Brit bike look, thank you.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jul 12, 2016, 17:08:56
Righto....the front guard was too low, Lord knows how it happened, but I've removed it once again (10th time I reckon) and...ahem adjusted the rear hoop to sit  higher, this has the effect of raising the guard away from the tyre. I had to redrill the rear hole and pay more attention to the slight slack in the mounting, nipping up the bolts with it in the up position.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160712_193357_zpstjeok0x2.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160712_193357_zpstjeok0x2.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160712_193459_zpsa4crr0vb.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160712_193459_zpsa4crr0vb.jpg.html)

There's defo clearance now, the rear of the guard sticks out slightly but, ho hum, that's what you get for using used parts. I still like the snub nose and overall style so I'm pleased and moving on to other jobs.

Speedo mount first fit.....I'd like to rubber mount this but just wanted to see how it looks and the angle of the speedo head....happy with it so far :-)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160712_200647_zpssfsxhrgz.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160712_200647_zpssfsxhrgz.jpg.html)

The four holes are for the LED idiot lights, I might paint the ally mount black...not sure about the ally finish? Have to get used to it sitting there as it was bare before.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jul 21, 2016, 18:49:34
A week of unbike related busyness has left me feeling slightly peeved. Family stuff is at a peak at the moment and there's no getting out of it. However, on the basis of 'every little helps' I've had my mate, Greg, turn a rev counter mechanism plug out of alloy.

Component parts including the drive housing, Greg made the plug and bolt.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160721_192707_zps0qtpl6h5.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160721_192707_zps0qtpl6h5.jpg.html)

There is an old oil seal wedged down the housing and the plug has been machined so I can wriggle an O ring down there to form a new seal. The housing is hollow, the geared drive shaft has been removed.
The O ring meant a bit of pressure to allow the locking bolt to thread correctly. I used a G cramp my son Matthew made during his Network Rail apprenticeship. Thanks Matt.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160721_193359_zpsou22gltr.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160721_193359_zpsou22gltr.jpg.html)

And, finally, here it is installed, hope it's oil tight :-/

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160721_215540_zpsgrxbxeui.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160721_215540_zpsgrxbxeui.jpg.html)

Thanks for checking in.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jul 23, 2016, 12:07:55
Plaiting spaghetti  :-\ that is all.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160723_155104_zpsc1jfg3vf.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160723_155104_zpsc1jfg3vf.jpg.html)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: xb33bsa on Jul 27, 2016, 17:16:03
A week of unbike related busyness has left me feeling slightly peeved. Family stuff is at a peak at the moment and there's no getting out of it. However, on the basis of 'every little helps' I've had my mate, Greg, turn a rev counter mechanism plug out of alloy.

Component parts including the drive housing, Greg made the plug and bolt.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160721_192707_zps0qtpl6h5.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160721_192707_zps0qtpl6h5.jpg.html)

There is an old oil seal wedged down the housing and the plug has been machined so I can wriggle an O ring down there to form a new seal. The housing is hollow, the geared drive shaft has been removed.
The O ring meant a bit of pressure to allow the locking bolt to thread correctly. I used a G cramp my son Matthew made during his Network Rail apprenticeship. Thanks Matt.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160721_193359_zpsou22gltr.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160721_193359_zpsou22gltr.jpg.html)

And, finally, here it is installed, hope it's oil tight :-/

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160721_215540_zpsgrxbxeui.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160721_215540_zpsgrxbxeui.jpg.html)

Thanks for checking in.
that looks great having the machinist buddy is gold
but you could have gone low profile by deleteing the intermediate part and just capping off  at the base
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jul 27, 2016, 20:35:01
that looks great having the machinist buddy is gold
but you could have gone low profile by deleteing the intermediate part and just capping off  at the base

Thanx beeza, I had thought of chopping it down, but liked that it looks like a gidjet with nothing to do  ;) Plus, if I ever feel the need for a tacho.....
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: xb33bsa on Jul 27, 2016, 21:09:26
Thanx beeza, I had thought of chopping it down, but liked that it looks like a gidjet with nothing to do  ;) Plus, if I ever feel the need for a tacho.....
well yeah its cool having shit stickout,but c'mon how could you read into that, that i was suggesting cutting anything down ?
i was only stating that you could have done it clean and simple by just leaving it out (the tach cable receptacle)and capping off the actual hole,thats all
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Aug 27, 2016, 18:27:13
I'm still here......not quite zero progress since my last missive, but I have been extremely busy or too knackered to venture into the garage.

A job I've been holding back on was sorting the 'lectrics, not my favourite discipline. Anyhoo...t'was my son's birthday recently and by way of celebration I had him over for some scran and to help his old man out on the CBX.

I had a great day working alongside my son and thoroughly recommend it to all who have sons (or daughters), spending time just getting on with jobs is lovely.

Despite me and my dicking about, he duly delivered and I am very pleased to announce I now have fully working lights, indicators, horn, starter motor and an array of idiots lights (when I get them mounted), very pleased indeed, thank you matthewdavies.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160827_155529_zpsmse0g2ca.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160827_155529_zpsmse0g2ca.jpg.html)

I have a video short showing the indicators blinking.....we then went on to make everything work. (Will post it up when I can)

And, in other news, I ran a wet test on the carbs by syringing fuel into the main feed, they overflowed as they should and no visible leaks so far.

I've been banging on about 80:20 and how it's almost there....bollocks is it, loads to do as my job list will show.

Anyway, I'm very pleased and fired up to get on with it....here's to it!
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: yorkie350 on Aug 28, 2016, 07:08:03
Great progress getting made mate , bet its a good feeling getting your young -un helping out even if its only passing ya bits n bobs sure wish I had a little helper haha keep gong mate soon be there specially wiv lectrics done (hate that stuff)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Aug 28, 2016, 09:34:45
..... getting your young -un helping out even if its only passing ya bits n bobs sure wish I had a little helper haha

Thanx yorkie, in fact it was the other way around....me passing him bits n pieces, firing up the soldering iron, finding stuff I knew I had stashed somefuckingwhere etc. He's the electrical wiz.....I'm the grease monkey haha! Good to spend time with him though, and happy to now progress.

Mounted the indicators, secured the fork brace using the s/s spacers my mate turned up for me....upwards and onwards yay!

Just a few jobs to do:

Sort petcock from stock tank to replacement and mount
Paint frame in parts
Fit exhaust
Fit airbox
Re-fit rear guard/light, secure ignition switch etc
Paint speedo mount and fit/connect LED idiot lights
Bind/tape and secure loom
Replace mono-shock bolts

General fettling and sorting of so many small parts/fittings left to do.....

My final topping out will be fitting the chain. :D

Thanks for checking in guys.

Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Northish on Aug 28, 2016, 16:00:44
Just a few jobs to do:

Sort petcock from stock tank to replacement and mount
Paint frame in parts
Fit exhaust
Fit airbox
Re-fit rear guard/light, secure ignition switch etc
Paint speedo mount and fit/connect LED idiot lights
Bind/tape and secure loom
Replace mono-shock bolts

General fettling and sorting of so many small parts/fittings left to do.....

My final topping out will be fitting the chain. :D

The list is getting short!  Bet it feels great to have working electronics.  You guys did a lot!
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Aug 28, 2016, 16:48:29
Thanx yorkie, in fact it was the other way around....me passing him bits n pieces, firing up the soldering iron, finding stuff I knew I had stashed somefuckingwhere etc. He's the electrical wiz.....I'm the grease monkey haha! Good to spend time with him though, and happy to now progress.

Mounted the indicators, secured the fork brace using the s/s spacers my mate turned up for me....upwards and onwards yay!

Just a few jobs to do:

Sort petcock from stock tank to replacement and mount
Paint frame in parts
Fit exhaust
Fit airbox
Re-fit rear guard/light, secure ignition switch etc
Paint speedo mount and fit/connect LED idiot lights
Bind/tape and secure loom
Replace mono-shock bolts

General fettling and sorting of so many small parts/fittings left to do.....

My final topping out will be fitting the chain. :D

Thanks for checking in guys.

Detailed some of the engine mount bolts under the airbox as well as refitted the filter box/battery carrier. Details, details....rear guard/light & exhaust tomorrow and maybe a cheeky go at starting it  ;)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Aug 28, 2016, 16:49:56
The list is getting short!  Bet it feels great to have working electronics.  You guys did a lot!

Ha, yeah, one tick at a time, thank you northish. Electrics bring the bike to life I reckon ...apart from actually starting it of course.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Aug 29, 2016, 18:17:40
List:
Sort petcock from stock tank to replacement and mount
Paint frame in parts
Fit exhaust
Fit airbox
Re-fit rear guard/light, secure ignition switch etc
Paint speedo mount and fit/connect LED idiot lights
Bind/tape and secure loom
Replace mono-shock bolts

Getting it done  ;)

Sorting out the loom was time consuming and fiddly, but I got it as good as I can for now. Tank is a squeeze to fit, but I think a bit of fettling will see it right. Had a good day working my way through my job list...seems strange to be fitting parts for the last time.....I hope?

Wiring is now a bit tidier,

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160829_175409_zpsvypomafu.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160829_175409_zpsvypomafu.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160829_190451_zpsz19elkvx.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160829_190451_zpsz19elkvx.jpg.html)

Mounted the rear brake reservoir to the battery brace using the brace bolt, just had to cut down the rubber pipe 30mm. Motobatt appears to be working correctly. Had to splice in a new main 30amp fuse as the original had decomposed or I can't find the fuse bit?

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160829_175422_zpsqa2ldc25.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160829_175422_zpsqa2ldc25.jpg.html)

Rear guard, lamp and numberplate all installed in it's final position, pleased with how it looks  :D

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160829_193156_zpswracmmjs.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160829_193156_zpswracmmjs.jpg.html)

I went for a start tonight, turns over sprightly enough, but no go  :( I'll check sparks etc tomorrow).

That's it for now.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: magazine on Sep 02, 2016, 12:45:24
The bike looks great!
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Sep 12, 2016, 17:07:23
The bike looks great!

Fanx megazine.

It now lives..... :D
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Sep 12, 2016, 19:11:47
Battery issues all pointed at two duff chargers....so bought a new battery maintenance charger so trickle charge duties in the long term. Short term, it gave me a fully charged battery which span it over a treat.

No go initially, but a generous squirt of 'Start ya Bastard' soon had it firing/running.

Dah gud shit

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160912_214937_zpsph1ubxbw.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160912_214937_zpsph1ubxbw.jpg.html)

I don't have the tank on yet, so just the full carbs but it ran on the throttle for 15secs or so, long enough to know it's OK.

Exhaust is now on as well.....

My attempt at disguising the middle down pipes to make it look like a twin (from 30yds) failed haha!

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160912_220226_zpspcdbgp7o.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160912_220226_zpspcdbgp7o.jpg.html)

Quite liking the silencer, it terminates at the hub spindle which is short enough (for now) at least.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160912_220333_zps4fudvgcl.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160912_220333_zps4fudvgcl.jpg.html)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Maritime on Sep 13, 2016, 10:50:38
Lookin good!
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Sep 16, 2016, 14:57:41
Lookin good!

Thanx Marytime  :)

Did I mention it runs...yay.

However, due to me being a clutz, I left the ignition on and drained the battery...the maintenance charger I recently bought will charge it up but paainfullly sloooowly...so I treated myself to a gruntier version:

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/ClarkeBC210C-charger_zpsp6cufvd6.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/ClarkeBC210C-charger_zpsp6cufvd6.jpg.html)

If that don't shoot some juice into the MotoBatt nothing will.

In other news, I attempted to swap the petcocks over from the CBX tank to the 400/4 tank....easy right? Wrong! Buggery bugger....thought the petcock swap would be a synch...pah, thread on the 400/4 tank is coarse whereas the CBX thread is fine...so much for just swapping them over

Just ordered an aftermarket 400/4 petcock from Mr David Silver......let's see if that'll work?

I've heard of sketchy quality and leaks from cheaper cocks but if DS sells 'em they should be OK.

I was concerned about using the 400/4 petcock as the fuel outlet bore is narrower than the CBX bore, but the petcock, as listed, will suit up to 750/4 models so the flow rate should be OK to keep the 4x carbs fed, right?

I'm trying to get things done to a finish of sorts....thanks for checking in chaps  :D
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Maritime on Sep 16, 2016, 15:02:37
Make sure the battery can handle that, a lot of moto batteries can't take more than 1.5-2 amps without being damaged.  Glad to hear she runs!
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Sep 16, 2016, 15:23:56
Make sure the battery can handle that, a lot of moto batteries can't take more than 1.5-2 amps without being damaged.  Glad to hear she runs!
Ah, OK. The max is 25amps, but there's a 'min' setting as well. I can't find the 'min' amp rate though??

A review was from a motorbike mechanic who rated this unit....one fo the reasons I invested in it tbh.

I'm so pleased it ran...now just getting around to the last few jobs.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Sep 17, 2016, 10:31:28
You know when you connect the battery charger....plug it in and the lights come on.....well, that doesn't mean it's actually 'TURNED ON' and working.

I've been sitting like a chump waiting for the battery to charge only to notice I hadn't remembered to SWITCH THE BLOODY THING ON!!!  ::) >:(  :-[

In other new....the tank now fits on with the loom routed and tied down, so all good. Just need to drill out the rear mounting tab and find the flip cap mechanism which I have misplaced somewhere in the shit pit I call a garage.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Northish on Sep 17, 2016, 13:00:30
Hey NoRiders - Liking the way the silencer ended up position-wise.  Looks like it will be outta the way in the twisties and give a little ground clearance if it gets off road.

Did you have to support its weight by fixing it to the bike somewhere or is it light enough that it won't need it?
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Sep 17, 2016, 16:46:28
Hey NoRiders - Liking the way the silencer ended up position-wise.  Looks like it will be outta the way in the twisties and give a little ground clearance if it gets off road.

Did you have to support its weight by fixing it to the bike somewhere or is it light enough that it won't need it?

Yeah, it's worked out well, almost no need to consider changing or modifying it now it's on. The rear end has a bracket which bolts to the end of the footrest casting, you can see a single bolt holding it and the outline of the black bracket behind the casting in this image.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160912_220316_zpsz7kmbrl1.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160912_220316_zpsz7kmbrl1.jpg.html)


Had some time in the garage today, fiddly fiddly and doesn't look like much has been done, but I've managed to get the tank to fit around the loom/cables and modded the rear mount tab to suit the CBX mount. I'll source a larger penny washer but it hold OK as is.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160917_173955_zpsah5ujc4s.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160917_173955_zpsah5ujc4s.jpg.html)

Tank now sits just about right...pleased with how it turned out.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160917_173938_zps7zhlmbe1.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160917_173938_zps7zhlmbe1.jpg.html)

Had to fit the LEDs to the speedo mount and then sheath the tails and protect the connections and LED unit. I used VW door card witches hat grommets which worked a treat.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160917_195948_zps0rnphxmk.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160917_195948_zps0rnphxmk.jpg.html)

A smear of Vaseline will help keep the water off. It's a bit busy under there, but I'll tidy it as best I can, some of it will be hidden by the headlamp I hope. This was never going to be a super clean minimalist bike.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160917_173850_zpst11b5ogg.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160917_173850_zpst11b5ogg.jpg.html)

I rather like my view of the cockpit...

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160917_173830_zpshhl0etwx.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160917_173830_zpshhl0etwx.jpg.html)

Here's a close up of the speedo and idiot lights, given I fucked up the size of the holes I'm pleased they turned out OK.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160917_200018_zps9vspcgma.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160917_200018_zps9vspcgma.jpg.html)

I arranged the colours according to Honda layout, YRGB to keep it authentic haha!

The bike started again today, but I have a misfire.....
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Alex jb on Sep 17, 2016, 19:33:54
Looking great, a masterclass in making what you have, what you want.


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Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Sep 17, 2016, 19:48:37
Looking great, a masterclass in making what you have, what you want.


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Gee thanx Alex. I'm pleased with the way it's finally turning out....bit different to what I started out to build, but not by much haha!
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Sep 19, 2016, 20:00:56
Got it going... :D

https://youtu.be/jVzhrtVPjsM

What happened to the 'misfire' you say?  turns out someone had put the leads on the wrong way around....... :-[
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Alex jb on Sep 20, 2016, 07:29:47
She's alive!
Good to see


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Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Sep 26, 2016, 11:29:07
She's alive!
Good to see

I agree, thankee  :D

In other news, you know when something ain't right, but you proceed to fail anyway? Well, that's me that is. I bloody knew the LED idiot light wire connections were weak, feeble to be exact as they break just by looking at them. Despite this I cracked on, convincing myself that binding the mini LED loom to the speedo light loom would hold them in place...pah, what an utter waste of time. No sooner had I installed the speedo/LED unit, all lights working great, that the oil/indicator LED wires broke....bloody fuck!!

I have now done what I should've done and ordered anther set with a moulded gland on the end which will be stronger I know. Just got to strip the speedo down, de-solder the wiring, resolder and it should be good to go.

This image highlights the error of my ways....

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160924_142527_zpsfpazht9e.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160924_142527_zpsfpazht9e.jpg.html)

The offending LEDs...

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20160924_142554_zpszrvuolqv.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20160924_142554_zpszrvuolqv.jpg.html)

What with my son getting an MOT on his 400/4 brat, I'm even more keen to get it on the road, despite some cosmetic parts still needing work. To that end, the chain is now on, all other lights work, headlight mounts are sorted as is the headlamp loom and front indicators.

Just the fuel tank to complete and it should be a runner/rider  ;)

PS I've decided on the tank finish as well. More later.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Sep 28, 2016, 07:16:53
To sort the petcock issue, looks like I'll be removing the 4mm fuel spigot, drilling the housing to take a 8mm spigot so the flow is equal to the carbs. I'll know more tonight as I'll be digging out my tame machinist again  :)

Awaiting new LED idiot lights, although they'll not stop me from riding it.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Oct 02, 2016, 15:09:54
We have devised a petcock plan as it has come to be known. He's been set to work on it and I await the results next Wednesday at club night  :)

To resolve the fragile LED issue I have ordered these....

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/LEDs_zpskbvsggkt.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/LEDs_zpskbvsggkt.jpg.html)

I've re-learnt an important issue, if you think a component is feeble and weak, it'll fail in place...we all know this but sometimes ignore the warning bells and plough ahead. I will now have to re-do the LED loom, sweat off the solder joints and remake them and build everything up again. Ho hum  :-[

On the plus side, I reckon once the fueling issue is resolved the bike should be ready for a pre-MOT test ride.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: CrabsAndCylinders on Oct 02, 2016, 15:17:12
Those LED's look very nice!

Who is the vendor?

Brian
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Oct 02, 2016, 16:55:21
Those LED's look very nice!

Who is the vendor?

Brian

This fella: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251623870259?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=550526386008&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Available in 8 or 10mm, I like the bezel detail and the moulded gland look tough enough and water proof. Annoyingly, they don't do a 4xbundle deal, despite trying to ask.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: CrabsAndCylinders on Oct 03, 2016, 11:28:01
This fella: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251623870259?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=550526386008&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Available in 8 or 10mm, I like the bezel detail and the moulded gland look tough enough and water proof. Annoyingly, they don't do a 4xbundle deal, despite trying to ask.

Thanks
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Oct 03, 2016, 11:59:35
Thanks

Yr welcome.

I've been thinking about side panels a lot lately and came up with this satchel option, cribbed from other bikes of course, all the same I quite like the feel of it.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20161003_141121_zpsnakk8zxc.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20161003_141121_zpsnakk8zxc.jpg.html)

Is it too large though?  :-\

Also, popped down to the local H cafe biker meet on Sunday and spotted this neat flexi brake pipe solution on a Triumph. I like the simplicity and the single braided passing over the guard could work on the CBX....anyone have experience of this set up?

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20161002_162640_zpsjiqusefh.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20161002_162640_zpsjiqusefh.jpg.html)

Surely it would'nt affect braking would it?

I took a shot of the throttle/brake lever mounts as I scope out phase 2 options  ;)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20161002_162627_zpsyfezl1ax.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20161002_162627_zpsyfezl1ax.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20161002_162648_zpszx9nfha8.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20161002_162648_zpszx9nfha8.jpg.html)

Can't wait to see what Greg's done with the fuel tap....Wednesday evening can't come soon enough.



Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: CrabsAndCylinders on Oct 03, 2016, 15:48:43
Yr welcome.

I've been thinking about side panels a lot lately and came up with this satchel option, cribbed from other bikes of course, all the same I quite like the feel of it.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20161003_141121_zpsnakk8zxc.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20161003_141121_zpsnakk8zxc.jpg.html)

Is it too large though?  :-\

I like the look of so many Cafe Racers that have no side covers but there are lots of beautiful bike that originally have gorgeous side covers that are part of making great looking bikes look great.  Not many people design or make their own side covers, unlike seats and even tanks.  I am looking forward to seeing if you make something or are you going to stay with the bags instead?  They do look cool.

Brian

Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Oct 03, 2016, 17:23:22
I'm in two minds Carbs, I know what I want to make, but this will work well and be practical for the time being as I don't want to delay riding it while I make side panels.

I'm looking to form them out of 1mm alloy to include a highlighted scrambler style number roundel, but have more to it so I can cover the electrics and have something to hold it in place, maybe Zeus clips.

In the meantime, a leather saddle bag and something on the other side will work for now.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Oct 06, 2016, 11:23:39
The long awaited (a week) petcock has arrived back and I have to say it's very well put together. The newly turned stainless spigot is a tolerance fit over the original brass spigot and glued in with threadlock....no leaks expected.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20161006_132344_zpsi4jqdzdv.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20161006_132344_zpsi4jqdzdv.jpg.html)

I now have the same spigot size throughout the fuel supply line, so happy dayz :)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: xb33bsa on Oct 07, 2016, 11:59:26
nice work  :)
"tolerence fit"  does that mean with clearance ?
 
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Oct 07, 2016, 16:37:37
nice work  :)
"tolerence fit"  does that mean with clearance ?
Thank you, no it was tapped/hammered on and sealed with threadlock as well.


I've got the tank, tap and filter connected tonight as well as the replacement LEDs and headlight fitted. All's good, electrics work throughout. Moved the leather side casecover to the battery side as it covered the ignition switch..DOH! Roundel will now sit on the left side.

Started it and ran it for a few minutes, garage filled with 'zorst fumes, so shut it down. Gonna give it a gentle shakedown run tomorrow.....:-)

In other news, I've just received a 450 ($600) tax rebate, so there's my boots and helmet money....thank you Mr Taxman.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Alex jb on Oct 08, 2016, 04:49:40
Free money at just the right time... Awesome!
Get yourself on the road


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Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Oct 08, 2016, 08:00:24
Free money at just the right time... Awesome!
Get yourself on the road


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Proper bonus I reckon :-)

https://youtu.be/Eg94N42ectY

Maiden shakedown run this morning, it went well, nothing fell off and the old girl can gather her skirts up and trot along nicely. Didn't get out of 4th as it was only the back lane and I don't have full papers yet, so easy does it. Very pleased I is.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: beachcomber on Oct 08, 2016, 08:14:24
Side panels instead of saddle bags please - otherwise a fantastic job.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Oct 08, 2016, 09:07:41
Side panels instead of saddle bags please - otherwise a fantastic job.

Thank you beachy....saddle bag is uber practical...let's see how the roundel on't'other side works?
Title: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Alex jb on Oct 08, 2016, 13:19:18
Looking great buddy.
I think you could definitely pull off a scrambler type front race number facia thingy with a 2 1/2" projector light in it.

This a guy at work's Triumph, it could take the projector in the upper or lower bit of the '8'

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161008/baebdc79a88d7596c34dc4b5cbb43f80.jpg)


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Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Oct 08, 2016, 14:04:02
Thank you I'm very pleased with how it turned out.

 I get what you're sayin' Alex, but that look/style is new skool/tracker and I was looking for the old Brit bike look, headlights included. Plus I don't like that style to be honest.

I might change the rectangular to round yet  ;)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Psycrow on Oct 08, 2016, 17:53:03
love the saddlebag side covers i will be doing something similar on mine for at least the right side only change I would make is swaping the Square headlight for a round one and mounting it a little lower.. but thats just my taste... outstanding job!.

Psy

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Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Oct 08, 2016, 18:06:53
love the saddlebag side covers i will be doing something similar on mine for at least the right side only change I would make is swaping the Square headlight for a round one and mounting it a little lower.. but thats just my taste... outstanding job!.

Psy

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Thank you very much psycow....single side saddlebags are the future haha!. I have lowered the headlight today as it was a touch too high and I am thinking about a roundy roundy one....just thinking mind ;-) The rectangular headlight matches the rear light and indicators...there is a theme I think?
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: xb33bsa on Oct 08, 2016, 18:10:33
you will find that is about the worst place you could put a bag ,there right in your way,unless it is just a sidecover painted like a bag you will always know its there anoyingly it even is a hazxard there and takes away control of the bike
what the hell is good about it ?the location?
it even looks ridiculous having them in your way
the normal location for the saddlebags/luggage bags is a great solution for such rertardedness of mounting them smack dab in your way
you know what it looks like ? like some queer interior decorator who knows zip even how to shift gears, dressed up a motorcycle
not that i have anything against anybody but it looks that fucked up and is
if you tucked them in flush so you wouldn't constantly feel them right IN THE WAY where your leg wants to ber and there was no buckles to catch a pant cuff or shoelace on, that would be different but having them bulked out right in your way is one of the stupidest deals i have seen yet
fcking snap out of it dudes,before you venture into public with the worst bag location ever concieved
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Psycrow on Oct 08, 2016, 18:29:34
you will find that is about the worst place you could put a bag ,there right in your way,unless it is just a sidecover painted like a bag you will always know its there anoyingly it even is a hazxard there and takes away control of the bike
what the hell is good about it ?the location?
it even looks ridiculous having them in your way
the normal location for the saddlebags/luggage bags is a great solution for such rertardedness of mounting them smack dab in your way
you know what it looks like ? like some queer interior decorator who knows zip even how to shift gears, dressed up a motorcycle
not that i have anything against anybody
if you tucked them in flush so you wouldn't constantly feel them right IN THE WAY where your leg wants to ber and there was no buckles to catch a pant cuff or shoelace on, that would be different but having them bulked out right in your way is one of the stupidest deals i have seen yet
fcking snap out of it dudes,before you venture into public with the worst bag location ever concieved
How on earth do you know they are in his way. Sitting with his legs bent they would tuck neatly behind his leg and if his legs are longer they would not even interfere when stopped. Obviously you are not a fan and you are entitled to your opinion however the language you used comes off as harsh and very unconstructively crittical. My mother alyways taught me if you don't have something nice to say dont say anything at all... you don't by chance post over on that "other" cafe racer board? If so please feel free to return there where such critical reviews of ones work seem to be the norm.

Psy

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Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: xb33bsa on Oct 08, 2016, 18:43:32
hey i love the bike its fantastic .the work he's done and the style
the bags are not the bike it is an idiotic location for bags
anybody who rides a standard ergo's bike knows there in the way

remember the emporers clothes somebody needs to stand up and point out the obvious ,thats all
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Alex jb on Oct 09, 2016, 16:18:51
Funny you should say that Psycrow, the same guy at work also rolls up on this Enfield also.m

I liked the low and small headlight with the 21" front wheel.
Very clean bike with the reverse levers and internal cables
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161009/9b93d8193ae0d2f40ed52b5926a6929e.jpg)


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Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Oct 11, 2016, 13:48:33
MOT day.......it passed :D

I'm chuffed to be honest, proper result. I had to quickly lash up the original number plate over the top of the b/w one or else instant fail.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20161011_163952_zps3wsq4zdd.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20161011_163952_zps3wsq4zdd.jpg.html)

PS: Carried the documents to the MOT place in the satchel  ;) ....it doesn't get in the way at all, I don't know it's there when riding.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: yorkie350 on Oct 11, 2016, 16:18:55
Excellent news mate didn't doubt it for a minute looks the part next to the Beetle too ,lets hope for some decent weather last few ride outs before winter
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Alex jb on Oct 12, 2016, 15:05:17
Top news!

Too many toys at your house ;)
What's your daily?


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Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: CrabsAndCylinders on Oct 12, 2016, 22:43:19
you will find that is about the worst place you could put a bag ,there right in your way,unless it is just a sidecover painted like a bag you will always know its there anoyingly it even is a hazxard there and takes away control of the bike
what the hell is good about it ?the location?
it even looks ridiculous having them in your way
the normal location for the saddlebags/luggage bags is a great solution for such rertardedness of mounting them smack dab in your way
you know what it looks like ? like some queer interior decorator who knows zip even how to shift gears, dressed up a motorcycle
not that i have anything against anybody but it looks that fucked up and is
if you tucked them in flush so you wouldn't constantly feel them right IN THE WAY where your leg wants to ber and there was no buckles to catch a pant cuff or shoelace on, that would be different but having them bulked out right in your way is one of the stupidest deals i have seen yet
fcking snap out of it dudes,before you venture into public with the worst bag location ever concieved

xb, you're being a bit vague here, I'm not sure if you kinda like the bags or think that they suck hairy balls covered in day old sweat, would you mind clarifying this?
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: xb33bsa on Oct 12, 2016, 23:44:46
xb, you're being a bit vague here, I'm not sure if you kinda like the bags or think that they suck hairy balls covered in day old sweat, would you mind clarifying this?
I kinda had a feeling i might be wrong so i was making suire i would really,really, totally and in-=escapably,wrong
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Oct 13, 2016, 03:18:05
Top news!

Too many toys at your house ;)
What's your daily?


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Ha, cheers Alex....I'm very happy with the contents of my toy basket thank you.

My daily is the VW T4 panel van.....

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20161011_164026_zpsli0xkudc.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20161011_164026_zpsli0xkudc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Maritime on Oct 13, 2016, 09:45:56
Good Job, turned out very nice.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Oct 13, 2016, 14:52:23
Good Job, turned out very nice.

Thank you Maritime, I'm pleased with how it turned out as well. Rides nice, but I've yet to do any mileage on it yet...and yes, it's a bit squirelly on those tyres haha! I'm sure I'll get used to it and they might settle a touch when the pimples have worn off.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Alex jb on Oct 15, 2016, 05:45:49
I'm not sure if you kinda like the bags or think that they suck hairy balls covered in day old sweat, would you mind clarifying this?

Maybe only freshly washed balls ;)

I like the bag,
Would you find some more interesting superlatives if I call it a satchel?


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Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Oct 15, 2016, 05:57:48
..... if I call it a satchel?

Yes, yes yes....it is a satchel.  ;)



...and the local pizza place turned me down :-(
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Oct 15, 2016, 13:32:20
Had a day out planned which went well until I heard/felt a knock knock from the bike when riding the dual carriageway.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20161015_112910_zpsocpx54j4.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20161015_112910_zpsocpx54j4.jpg.html)

Turns out to be a sprocket stud had worked itself out and was contacting the swingarm and adjuster brackets.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20161015_112851_zpsfyuvnjhb.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20161015_112851_zpsfyuvnjhb.jpg.html)

Fortunately, my mate has his shop just up the road, I'd come out with zero tools of course  ::), so he popped out with some spanners to help. We turned out the stud, tightened the other nuts and I rode it to his place. Stud refitted and all was well. Only an hour set back....so onwards to my biker mate.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20161015_132028_zpsc0ft8owk.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20161015_132028_zpsc0ft8owk.jpg.html)

He's just turned out this very tidy 1978 Honda 400twin cafe, it sure sounds nice on the megaphones. We blasted to a local biker cafe and met up with a HD rider/mate. Great day out with friends on our bikes.....it's what I built it for  :D

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20161015_140055_zpsk5mjuf3e.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20161015_140055_zpsk5mjuf3e.jpg.html)

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20161015_150415_zpsm9qkkmib.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20161015_150415_zpsm9qkkmib.jpg.html)

Mine had a few folk scratchin' their heads trying to work out what the hell my bikes was....haha!

I did a deal with the cafe/bike boutique owner, he sold me his last pair of enduro boots for 155 and I sold him one of my electric water heaters for 100.....very pleased I have to say.

I'll now go over the bike to check each fixing and continue with the finishing off jobs.

Thanks for checking in.



Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: advCo on Oct 15, 2016, 13:39:20
The bike looks great sir. Glad you're out riding it before the cold sets in


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Title: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Alex jb on Oct 15, 2016, 13:39:30
Top stuff!

Glad you're getting some use before the weather turns


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Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Oct 15, 2016, 14:06:05
Thanks guys.....it sure was sunny today....until it rained.........I'd gotten home by then haha!
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: yorkie350 on Oct 15, 2016, 16:09:33
Not just a ride out but a bit of adventure too haha, we've all been there at the side of the road glad it was something simple and didn't spoil the fun guess the stocking filler xmas present sorted a bike tool kit to put in the satchel enjoy mate & ride safe
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Alex jb on Oct 16, 2016, 06:56:26
guess the stocking filler xmas present sorted a bike tool kit to put in the satchel enjoy mate & ride safe
Yorkie is bang on there!

How does the swing arm look?  Did the stud machine much material out?



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Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Oct 16, 2016, 09:02:39
Yorkie is bang on there!

How does the swing arm look?  Did the stud machine much material out?



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Ha.... I plan to have a basic tool kit, with allen keys included as well mind you ;)

The stud did grind out some material from the swingarm and adjuster widget, about 1mm deep and 6mm wide, I think that amount shouldn't present an issue of weakness, would it? I've seen more than that taken out for tyre clearance on other builds. The swing arm casting is quite chunky in that area.
I can replace the adjuster.


Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Oct 22, 2016, 11:23:44
Back from another cracking day at Kempton Park Motorcycle Auto Jumble, had a great scrounge around and picked up some of what I wanted....as I always seem to do at this event  :D

Best score was the Bell openface custom for 120 which came with a Bell carrier bag which is cool. Also,picked up a Bergen hex drove T bar kit, as most of the fixings on the CBX are Allen bolts, I've found having a tool like this will be a big help.

Replacement indicator body (had to buy the set), stainless cable ties and a demo bottle of non acid/chemical water based bike cleaner to trial.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20161022_150546_zpsyot97byt.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20161022_150546_zpsyot97byt.jpg.html)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Oct 23, 2016, 13:58:28
My daughter and her boyfriend stayed for the weekend, so a trip out on the bikes was too good to turn down. Sunshine day and my little ray of sunshine made for a great day out.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20161023_125618_zpsettp16np.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20161023_125618_zpsettp16np.jpg.html)

Popped by the local biker cafe which left a few scratchin' their heads trying to make out WTF my bike is all about. Old boys spot the 400/4 tank and maybe recognise the CBX brakes.....I enjoy the intrigue and chat.

Later, outside the COSTA coffee shop.

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Keep on bikin'  :D
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Nov 26, 2016, 13:34:19
A fine day for a quick blast and found myself across the road from our place in the nature reserve for a couple of moody autumnal snaps.

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/04caf78e-bbb9-427d-b3c7-8e4cf02675ff_zpslpagj0gv.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/04caf78e-bbb9-427d-b3c7-8e4cf02675ff_zpslpagj0gv.jpg.html)

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(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/e514e6a0-8b6f-4db3-8c7b-8741cc4d8813_zpsfplym6lk.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/e514e6a0-8b6f-4db3-8c7b-8741cc4d8813_zpsfplym6lk.jpg.html)

Not done much recently, but I do have a few odd jobs to finish off.

Remove centre stand
Clean and paint underside
Fit number roundel/side panel
Lower the headlight
Lower the speedo
Fit bar mirror
Source/fit engine breather
Decide how I want to finish the tank.....:/
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: CrabsAndCylinders on Nov 26, 2016, 17:31:43
Is it difficult to get parts the CBX550 over there?  I only ask because I have one as well. 

Nice pics, too.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Nov 26, 2016, 19:03:28
Is it difficult to get parts the CBX550 over there?  I only ask because I have one as well. 

Nice pics, too.

Thanx C&C, just phone snaps. I'll have some better images when I finish the details.

There's always been a few CBX550 breaking and lots of spares for reasonable money on fleabay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Motorcycle-Parts/10063/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=cbx550&rt=nc&_dmd=2
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: verboten1 on Nov 27, 2016, 00:48:37
Nice! Seems like you took a strange bike and made it cool too!
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: advCo on Nov 27, 2016, 01:34:27
Bike looks great. Glad you have some time to enjoy it. I can definitely get on board with the lower headlight, but why remove the center stand? I've done it and regret it every time I work on the sucker


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Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Nov 27, 2016, 05:12:14
Nice! Seems like you took a strange bike and made it cool too!

Thanks 'prohibited', I worked with what I had (owned for 20+yrs) which turned out OK. CB360/550/750s are great, but I do like it when someone takes an unpopular model and makes something of it. Quite a few on here which I follow.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Nov 27, 2016, 05:17:25
Bike looks great. Glad you have some time to enjoy it. I can definitely get on board with the lower headlight, but why remove the center stand? I've done it and regret it every time I work on the sucker


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Thank you advco, it's nice to get out on it, even for a quickie ;-)

I want to remove the centre stand to reduce weight so I can make higher jumps and tricks......haha! I have a paddock stand for garage/servicing use which works well enough. Headlight lowered by a touch and maybe the speedo as well?

I have been thinking of extending the side stand as the chunkier tyres stand the bike a bit taller so it leans more on the side stand. Maybe a 40-50mm extension will have it rest better?
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: xb33bsa on Nov 27, 2016, 09:50:56
you want to extend the side stand yes so the bike is up pretty high,almost anywhere you go there will be a sideslope ,anyway,see........... and you'all going backwards all day and night,means that pulling of the road if you want to kick the stand it will indeed be better long-ish
also a short stand overloads the mount when climbing on or off with it down,planted
headlight too high ? nope thats not the issue..
you could change the bike totally almost with one simple add-on
about a 4-6"{ tall wind deflector that forms onto the headlight shape and down the sides just enough to have a definate inside corner
you could put slight soft bends there and shape the top however but just high enough to only show the tack bezel
i dunno you might not have the skills or savvy to pull it off....... proly gonna need t hire it out
it wants to come down to the headlight at least 2" back and end about 1" gap to the tacho pretty much a bit more steep than the forks angle,whatever place ments gets you that tach distance .......swooped back too far will look pretensious
it will totally hide the clutter up there,which now draws the eye too much ..............and you could hire somebody else to emblazin' it with a logo
.............a plastic rectangular office size waste basket or tin even is a perfect donor for the stock to cut protos you get at least 4 per garbage pail
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: verboten1 on Nov 27, 2016, 10:55:48
Thanks 'prohibited', I worked with what I had (owned for 20+yrs) which turned out OK. CB360/550/750s are great, but I do like it when someone takes an unpopular model and makes something of it. Quite a few on here which I follow.

That's the same reason I'm building the Virago Scrambler, because I had it!

FYI, the meefos are great, but a Mitas E-07 is even better! ;)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Nov 27, 2016, 20:14:35
you want to extend the side stand yes so the bike is up pretty high,almost anywhere you go there will be a sideslope ,anyway,see........... and you'all going backwards all day and night,means that pulling of the road if you want to kick the stand it will indeed be better long-ish
also a short stand overloads the mount when climbing on or off with it down,planted
headlight too high ? nope thats not the issue..
you could change the bike totally almost with one simple add-on
about a 4-6"{ tall wind deflector that forms onto the headlight shape and down the sides just enough to have a definate inside corner
you could put slight soft bends there and shape the top however but just high enough to only show the tack bezel
i dunno you might not have the skills or savvy to pull it off....... proly gonna need t hire it out
it wants to come down to the headlight at least 2" back and end about 1" gap to the tacho pretty much a bit more steep than the forks angle,whatever place ments gets you that tach distance .......swooped back too far will look pretensious
it will totally hide the clutter up there,which now draws the eye too much ..............and you could hire somebody else to emblazin' it with a logo
.............a plastic rectangular office size waste basket or tin even is a perfect donor for the stock to cut protos you get at least 4 per garbage pail

Side stand could be done soon.

I'll look into the dustbin screen :-)
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Northish on Dec 05, 2016, 10:39:38
NoRiders - Look how far your project has come!  It looks solid and mean.  Too bad about the sprocket stud coming out and delaying your Oct. ride for a bit.  Glad you had a buddy up the road and you were able to keep on enjoying the bike.  I was so nervous about something like that happening to my bike since I had touched every nut and bolt building it and didn't trust myself - I carried about 20 lbs of tools on my back for every ride this fall haha.  Anyway, you really put some cool into that CBX.  Great work!
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Dec 05, 2016, 10:50:31
NoRiders - Look how far your project has come!  It looks solid and mean.  Too bad about the sprocket stud coming out and delaying your Oct. ride for a bit.  Glad you had a buddy up the road and you were able to keep on enjoying the bike.  I was so nervous about something like that happening to my bike since I had touched every nut and bolt building it and didn't trust myself - I carried about 20 lbs of tools on my back for every ride this fall haha.  Anyway, you really put some cool into that CBX.  Great work!

Gee, thanks northy. I am a bit nervous about riding it out n about since that stud issue and do have the means to carry a simple tool kit, but being a simple tool myself I don't....and trust to good luck and good buddies dotted about the place..haha!

You're absolutely right about it looking 'solid', it is a lump compared to your sprightly bike with a spring in it's step, and not to be thrown around on dirt I think.
I'd love to do something with a GL1000/1100 Wing as they are a brute when stripped down in the right way.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: thefish on Dec 10, 2016, 15:09:17
Just got in on this thread. Definitely following. Great build and posts!
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Trace on Jan 14, 2017, 06:03:20
I've really enjoyed your thread and just wanted to say thanks for documenting your build.  :) Having a steamy, wet day here in the tropics today, so staying indoors in the airconditioning and decided to read your thread through for the second time.  I've recently added a CBX550 to my garage and am just in the process of acquiring a few pieces of missing hardware (tyres, chain, battery) before I start working on getting her running more smoothly.  It's been insightful to read your build and I like where you took the bike; very nice. Looks a pleasure to ride. You've kept stock several of the key things I've also been contemplating, which was encouraging. I imagine I'll be revisiting some of your posts again as I get into it more. Thanks again for all your sharing.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Jan 14, 2017, 06:42:50
I've really enjoyed your thread and just wanted to say thanks for documenting your build.  :) Having a steamy, wet day here in the tropics today, so staying indoors in the airconditioning and decided to read your thread through for the second time.  I've recently added a CBX550 to my garage and am just in the process of acquiring a few pieces of missing hardware (tyres, chain, battery) before I start working on getting her running more smoothly.  It's been insightful to read your build and I like where you took the bike; very nice. Looks a pleasure to ride. You've kept stock several of the key things I've also been contemplating, which was encouraging. I imagine I'll be revisiting some of your posts again as I get into it more. Thanks again for all your sharing.

Gee, thank you trace. It's good to know some of my efforts and meanderings actually help to motivate others to 'get it done' haha!
I'd like to see your progress and watch another CBX550 get back on the road, Do you have a build thread yet?
Thankfully, the service parts you need are available in the aftermarket...original model specific parts might be more of a problem to source for you in the balmy tropics. In the UK there is a good supply of used parts from breakers etc. BYW it's very cold, wet n snowy here...brrr!
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Mar 19, 2017, 18:39:04
Well, Spring has sprung as they say and a run out on the old bike was on the cards. A local This Is Your Garage workshop rental outfit have a monthly breakfast meet, this month's was sponsored by Twisted Iron custom motorcycles.

Perfect, despite the clody weather and 25% chance of rain, we hardy biker types braved the percentages and I hooked up with my son on his Honda 400/4 brat to make it there before all the bacon butties disappeared.

I'll let the images do the talking ;)

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Spotted a clean bay on the lift.

This is his 400/4 Brat

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Father & Son

(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/LemonBUG/20170319_143706_zpsu5xamvzr.jpg) (http://s77.photobucket.com/user/LemonBUG/media/20170319_143706_zpsu5xamvzr.jpg.html)

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Cheers, thanx for checking in :D
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Maritime on Mar 20, 2017, 11:10:55
Nice, bikes look great, wish it was riding weather here, another couple of weeks and it should be.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Alex jb on Mar 20, 2017, 17:07:14
Look great together!
I think I'd like the sound of your exhaust more than yr lads ;)


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Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Mar 20, 2017, 19:23:50
Nice, bikes look great, wish it was riding weather here, another couple of weeks and it should be.

Thanx Maritime, we're both pleased with how they turned out, it of a joint effort despite living an hour away from each other :-) We braved a very overcast cloudy day with a strong gusty breeze....like you I'm waiting for the weather to properly warm up. Where be you?
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: NoRiders on Mar 20, 2017, 19:27:58
Look great together!
I think I'd like the sound of your exhaust more than yr lads ;)


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Ha....his is a bit on the raspy side of noisy. He had it as a straight through but once round the block and he wedged a baffle up it for good measure.

The Neta on mine has a sweet deep note with a little rasp if I give it beans...nothing too obtrusive though. It was on it when I got it.


Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: CrabsAndCylinders on Mar 20, 2017, 21:10:57
Ya, nice  bikes!
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: Maritime on Mar 21, 2017, 10:24:06
I'm on the east coast of Canada in NB, we still have a few feet of snow on the ground but the temps are getting higher and its starting to melt quick. It is supposed to rain today so that will get rid of some of the salt and sand on the roads and maybe next week or a week after I can get one of the bikes out for a spin. I need to finish fixing up my GL and I need to do a few regular service items on the CX like timing chain check/tension oil etc. so I better get a move on.
Title: Re: CBX550-Brat/urban scrambler on a budget
Post by: beachcomber on Mar 21, 2017, 10:39:33
Ha....his is a bit on the raspy side of noisy. He had it as a straight through but once round the block and he wedged a baffle up it for good measure.

The Neta on mine has a sweet deep note with a little rasp if I give it beans...nothing too obtrusive though. It was on it when I got it.




I like "Obtrusive " !!!!!!!!!!!!!!    Officially envious as I sit looking at a growing pile of parts in my shed !