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Blood Sweat Tears and Grease => Projects => Bob and Chop => Topic started by: Brodie on Sep 10, 2016, 04:19:58

Title: Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Sep 10, 2016, 04:19:58
I have recently acquired a '90 XV1100 as a present from my lovely missus. It belonged to my brother in law who had it in storage at his mothers house for the past 10 years. I have found the standard problems with a bike that has sat for so long, gunky carbs, deteriorated rubber and surface rust on flaking paint.

My plan is to get her running and reliable again to use as a daily ride, so not much customisation  is going to happen. I have already replaced the handle bars with a set of clubmans facing upwards which gives the bike a much nicer feel. Because of this I will have to replace the clutch lever and master cylinder.

Spotty has told me about a front brake mod dor the Vmax that may work on the xv. For now I was planning to use the original system as my funds are limited.

I have a front tyre in my workshop which will fit but will need to purchase a rear. I was also looking at replacing the dual carb system with a single for easy access and maintenance. Anyone that has worked on an XV1100 will know how much of a pain removing the carbs can be.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160910/72a286cc8cd496dc3f6b2e00ce7f5639.jpg)

I am not a fan of chrome so I will be removing most of what I can.

My plan is to paint the wheels gloss black when I remove them to replace the tyres. I will also be removing the sissy bar due to the fact that I cannot have a passenger for a year and was planning on putting a rack in its place.

Being 6 foot I will also have to remove some foam from the seat so that I can wiggle back a little further.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Sep 11, 2016, 05:51:15
Got a bit of time to work on the bike today. Gave it a bit of a tear down to assess what needs to be done. Most of the electrics appear to be in decent shape. Looks to be un-molested which is a good sign.

I pulled the exhaust system off as well. It has a 2 to 2 system which looks like it was made for the bike. I have removed that and plan on using the upper pipe on another bike.

A friend has given me his old exhaust system which I am planning on using. It is off a M109R and is a 2 to 1 system.

I need to order new indicators, tail light, levers and fuel/vacuum lines. These will most likely be ebay specials as I am trying to keep cost down.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160911/8b6baaf4594ae579b71063e7c0a80c2b.jpg)

I am still considering replacing the bulky carb system with a single carb intake. This will clean the bike up a bit.

The front fender has a lot of faded paint and has also rusted through in a few spots. Not sure if I should just replace it or respray. Budget will dictate but more than likely a respray.

I am planning to paint most of the parts gloss black, I will be keeping the tank the original colours as it is still in good condition. I will be using red accents on the bike such as fuel lines, grips, horns, levers and such. Hopefully it does not look to tacky.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Sep 15, 2016, 21:43:33
Ordered a few parts, waiting for them to arrive.

I dropped the oil in the engine and final drive. Both were black as diesel oil and both plugs had small bits of metal on them. Looks like I have a few oil changes ahead of me to get her clean again.

Not sure what to do for the paint yet. I was thinking of respraying the silver parts black.

Considering getting shorter rear shocks as well.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: spotty on Sep 16, 2016, 00:31:43
i'd go longer rear shocks, bring the front end rake in a bit that way, turning will be better, maybe also drop the forks an inch or two thru the clamps, also helps the steering and puts more weight on the front end for added stopping goodness. the bars you've put on should help all that too

the taillight is (i'm pretty sure) the same as vmax ones as are the indicators (also on lots of other yams of same age) so you might be able to find some cheap s/hand ebay stuff, there again brand new custom LED stuff is gonna be even cheaper (and nowhere near as arse ugly)

the stuff the other day I said about the brakes, I had a further thought, i'm pretty sure that wheel is the same one they used in the first year vmax so the R1/6 discs should indeed bolt straight on. also my member photo just over there to the left is my front wheel with the R1 discs and GSXR 4 pot calipers on, the brackets are the ones we carved out of solid alloy lump and have now been replaced when I put the hayabusa 6 pots on. if you fancy sourcing some early GSXR calipers I could send the brackets up your way. if I use the 4 pots again it'll be on one of my Hondas so i'll be making new mounts anyway. yours if you need them

whatever you do, it should piss off the 'stock is best' Ulysees club lot, so good work there
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Sep 16, 2016, 09:59:00
I'm along for the ride.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Nj732port on Sep 16, 2016, 10:23:23
i like the cat inspection ;D
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Sep 16, 2016, 23:57:22
Haha thanks guys.

I have ordered a few aftermarket lights to replace the stock units which should arrive in a few weeks.

Spotty. I would be interested in those brackets. I am wondering if they will work due to the virago being leading forks. I will measure the bolt space distance once I am home and post up on that.

I have a set of 295mm shocks I was going to try on her and see how she's goes. Ultimately I would like RAMSHOX virago units built for my weight but due to funds that will be a long way off.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: spotty on Sep 18, 2016, 18:48:07
I shall have a look for them, since we moved everything is hidden under the house but they are there somewhere.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Sep 19, 2016, 01:41:11
Thanks mate. No rush. My caliper mounts are approx. 105mm apart
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Sep 21, 2016, 13:20:47
Pulled the rear wheel off today. Going to give it a sand blast and a few coats of epoxy gloss black.

Got a price for a new rear tyre, $190 fitted.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Sep 23, 2016, 23:05:34
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160924/f1138f8865388e1e2ebf397d85f8e70f.jpg)

Did some wiring to bypass the clutch and side stand switches. No need for them other than to complicate the starter system

Stripped the carbs and gave them a clean. One was very bad yet the other was ok.

Got both rims finished as well.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Sep 25, 2016, 01:46:53
https://youtu.be/69VS-XZSgj8

It's alive!

Not running very well. Back firing from the front cylinder. You can see the mist from the front carb.

But that is the first run in around 10 years, so there is something.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: HerrDeacon on Sep 25, 2016, 04:55:10
First fire up is always exciting, well done!
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: spotty on Sep 25, 2016, 18:55:11
well done, its aliiiiive

the crap running could be the lack of air filters, from memory those things are very sensitive to such things

found the caliper mounts but the mount holes appear to be approx. 85mm apart. if you still want to give them a try PM me your address and i'll send them up
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: hooligan998 on Sep 26, 2016, 01:18:34
If you're going to be in the engine at all, consider doing the 6205 bearing mod.  I did it on the 98 I have that had a seized camshaft.

http://www.viragotechforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=16518&sid=b88d022ea93a6636be4f362ee78775bd
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Sep 30, 2016, 04:31:21
Hey Spotty, thanks for the offer. Not sure what I could do with them being a smaller size. I will keep them in mind though.

Hooligan, I saw that mod. When I eventually go in to the top end I will be doing that, but for now I am getting her on the road with only the work needed.

Speaking of, here is a picture of the new indicators. 4 the same to replace the 3 it had.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160930/28907346fa6014ad2ed8bdaeb5271bb3.jpg)

Still waiting on the new tail light to arrive. I traded the bulky old one for a 6 pack.

Also, graveyard shift sucks.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Sep 30, 2016, 05:49:06
Just got the fuel pump cleaned out. Boy was there some gunk in there.

One step closer everyday
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: spotty on Oct 02, 2016, 19:45:04
no worries bloke, i'll turf em back under the house for future use

nice looking indicators, are they plastic or cast alloy? ebay?
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Oct 02, 2016, 19:47:40
Cast. Only $12 a pair as well. They are red lenses and dual filament. Going to use the lower brightness as additional brake lights.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: spotty on Oct 02, 2016, 20:32:26
are red lenses legal for indicators up there or are you looking forward to roadworthy fun and games?
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Oct 02, 2016, 23:37:36
I have a set of "pass roadworthy" indicators, after that they will be put on. After running red indicators on my car for the past 3 years I find that no one picks up on it.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Oct 03, 2016, 17:15:40
Just scored a set of saddle bags that came off a hyosung. Good price but not really my style.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: spotty on Oct 03, 2016, 17:50:04
Hyosung saddlebags prob ok (apart from style) , Hyosung brakes bad, I've seen one that had the rear caliper attached with cable ties after one of the bolts holding it on snapped......mmmmmmm, quality control right there
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Oct 03, 2016, 20:43:59
Haha yeah for the price I paid I don't expect them to be the best. As long as they don't fall off on the first trip.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Oct 07, 2016, 01:55:22
Getting some intake flanges made up...
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Oct 10, 2016, 17:43:10
Got new tyres put on. As I went to pay my banks services went out. Could not pay or withdraw cash to pay...

Ohh well. I will pick them up Thursday, my next free day.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Oct 12, 2016, 08:33:59
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161012/aa9c3f319d6c0effacb5a4db526425bf.jpg)
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Oct 15, 2016, 05:09:16
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161015/f7ef1e64a3624930a2f297b901057547.jpg)

Starting to look like a bike again. Need new rear shocks.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Oct 15, 2016, 06:05:31
Not sure if I am happy with the length of the rear shocks either. I was thinking of getting shorter ones. Have not been over the front end yet which is why it is still in pieces. Waiting on brake pads and fork seals.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Oct 18, 2016, 22:50:19
Saddle bags never turned up. I couldn't get a hold of the seller so EBay refunded  me.

On another note, my key set turned up, need to do some mods to get it to fit but at least I have 1 keys for the lot now.

Ohh and the tail light.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161019/1fb61ee759e4fa9a5024cae7848dbe77.jpg)

I had a problem with the flasher relay. De used to replace it with a 2 pin. Turns out the stock unit is a 9 pin. I have deleted the hazard lights and auto cancel, bypassed the safety switches and sorted it out. I have never had auto cancel indicators so it won't worry me not having them.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: spotty on Oct 18, 2016, 23:14:46
I've found auto cancel indicators only auto cancel when you least expect it
on the other hand when you get used to having them you never remember to turn non cancelling ones off, then people think you're going to turn left and run over the top of you when you're going straight ahead. that was not a good day, especially as I was on my sisters NH80 Honda Lead scooter. serves me right I guess
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Oct 24, 2016, 02:47:14
Well turns out my indicator/running light idea won't work. Just not enough difference between the brightness for it to be a safe idea.

Still waiting on fork seals before I rebuild the front end.

I also have to check in with my mate from work about the intake flanges...
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Oct 27, 2016, 06:22:36
Working on a 2-1 system to replace the 2-2 on it now. Building it out of an old Suzuki M109R exhaust.

Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Oct 28, 2016, 22:44:00
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161029/bfbf6b604c6ea126d5618447fb414462.jpg)

Done. Just need new joint gaskets and she will be set.

Worried about ground clearance of the lower pipe but we will see once it is back on 2 wheels.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Oct 29, 2016, 07:11:05
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161029/b4bd4ac64a14abe6c3a2b85f68bd1779.jpg)
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Oct 29, 2016, 08:25:15
If you have cables and lines with room... Mini apes mang  ;D
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Oct 29, 2016, 16:45:24
They come with mini apes, I was not a fan.

Still waiting on fork seals before I pull the front end apart. Have the new brake pads.

Wait in on the battery and Intake flanges before I can get her on the road.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: hooligan998 on Oct 30, 2016, 01:15:43
Damn thing looks like it should be burning diesel!  I like it!
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: spotty on Oct 30, 2016, 22:20:32
excellent looking muffler, well done
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Oct 31, 2016, 05:24:52
Thanks, I am very happy with it. Can't wait to hear how it sounds.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Nov 06, 2016, 21:26:20
Pulled the lower fork legs off this morning. Took me a bit to remove the lumpy rust that once was the retainer rings. Old fork seals seam ok, but I have new ones and will use them. Need to buy something to replace the retainer rings with.
Painting the fork legs at the moment. Going to rebuild the calipers tomorrow. I am working late arvo shift most of this week so I have plenty of time to get stuff done during the day. Hopefully by the end of the week I will be able to take it for a test ride.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: verboten1 on Nov 06, 2016, 22:53:04
The blue spot calipers should have the same mounting, but needs an adapter at the bottom because of the leading fork, and the R6 rotors should work.

My 1000 appears to be the same setup as your bike, and the Seca wheel has the same bolt pattern, I just bolted on the R6 rotors, just not sure about spacing as my front end is apart.


(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161107/19e466c69a8c0ce947a376a7b9443c21.jpg)
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Nov 09, 2016, 09:39:06
Brake lines are completely blocked.
A bloke from work gave me the old lines off his GSXR so hopefully they will be long enough to use.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Nov 12, 2016, 01:01:21
https://youtu.be/lcbCKRmsXFo
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Nov 13, 2016, 04:22:30
Found a hole in the front header causing the ticking noise in the video. No idea why there is a threaded hole there but a very short bolt fixed the problem.

Just waiting on a 1m front brake line and exhaust clamp gaskets to arrive.
I also need to fab a bracket to hold the front indicators. I will bolt it where the old brake line splitter was bolted.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Nov 16, 2016, 23:28:26
Just finished installing and bleeding the brakes, and wouldn't you know it I got some on the front rim. Going to have to respray a portion of it. Thinking of painting the silver parts of the tank and rear fender while I am at it.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Nov 16, 2016, 23:35:27
Just finished installing and bleeding the brakes, and wouldn't you know it I got some on the front rim. Going to have to respray a portion of it. Thinking of painting the silver parts of the tank and rear fender while I am at it.

Sometimes you have to slowdown to go fast... Grasshopper  ???
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Nov 16, 2016, 23:59:18
Haha yep. Should have put more rags around the rim.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Nov 17, 2016, 16:50:42
Just changed the fork oil and added the 10psi. I stepped up to 15w from the recommended 10w as I am 105kg and from all accounts 10w would be to soft.

Lucky for me I had a friend who had a 17mm hex key, I would have been stuffed otherwise.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Nov 19, 2016, 17:12:13
Took her for a shake down ride yesterday, I need to make a bung to replace that o2 sensor on the rear pipe as it contacted with the ground. I expected that at least I know where the low point is.

Also forgot I had to wire in the front brake switch before I put the headlight back on. I will have to buy some mini blade terminals before I can wire it on.

Made a bracket out of alloy bar for the front indicators to mount to, not great looking but there will be a tool roll to mount and cover it yet.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Nov 20, 2016, 01:21:35
Couldn't find anything to replace the o2 sensor with so I removed the core and planned on welding it up.

Then I ran out of welding wire....

So, in usual fashion I thought about other ways to plug the hole instead of buying more wire.

I tried a bolt but I couldn't get a thread as the ceramic core was chewing it up.

So I took a step back and noticed my fishing box... 

Final solution was using old lead sinkers of the right diameter to plug the hole and beating them in with a hammer. 1 medium sinker for the external and 3 for internal. If the exhaust gets hot enough to melt the lead I think I have bigger issues.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Nov 21, 2016, 18:38:17
The more fuel I run through the engine the more crud collects in that massive fuel filter. Looks like that will stay on for the first couple of tanks before I upgrade to the small style.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: canyoncarver on Nov 21, 2016, 23:08:43
Nice job Brodie.  I dig that pipe you made too.  Bars would change that look alot.  Somewhere 8" or even 12" narrow zeds would look the part.  Would love to hear that pipe rev.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Nov 22, 2016, 00:35:04
https://youtu.be/qo0fr-CgIHk

Sounds great.

Not sure about the smoke though.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Nov 22, 2016, 05:16:02
I haven't given people much insight into this projects direction.

I have no idea what definitive style I am after. I do know what I want. So the easiest way to get some direction from you lot is to describe what I am after. As far as I am concerned I am now starting with a strong base point that I know runs well and is in good condition.

Wants:
To be able to haul a decent amount of gear. Such as a carton of beer as well as a small tent and a overnight bag.
A comfortable long distance bike.
Good reliability.
Able to have the occasional passenger.
Stand out from other bikes of this style. I don't people to see another virago.
Less gap between the rear fender and tyre. Be it new shocks or fender.

Do not wants:
Bling Bling chrome. These bikes come with far to much of that to begin with.
Poor handling.
Uncomfortable riding position. I am 6'1 and 225lbs, with a stocky build. Not fat, but not fit. I don't want to be cramped up. Current seat already pushes me a bit to far forward.

Any input is much appreciated.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Nov 22, 2016, 07:57:11
Dechrome as you go bud, look at Corbin for a seat that gives you some height and position should be able to go to a Harley shop and sit on them all... the Heritage has a close ride position so maybe fit with that in mind... a crash bar with highway pegs is a must for long haul and a set of rag or leather bags for camp supplies is awful nice and can be removed for town rides or DD riding.

Don't know if its possible but a 20" front tracks really nice out on the road also... run a tube up front, I find they blow slower and less chance the tire comes off  :o ... Most important... don't do anything that takes more than a weekend to complete or it may be a month before you ride again  8)

(http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/sites/motorcyclecruiser.com/files/styles/large_1x_/public/import/page_element_images/123_ViragoBoltOns_Leadxl%2BYamaha_Virago_750%2BFull_Right_Side_View.jpg?itok=h_H4DzDX)

Custom Virago seat on eBay

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/Mzc1WDUwMA==/z/YRQAAOSw3ydV4cgR/$_35.JPG?set_id=880000500F)
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Nov 27, 2016, 22:09:11
Painted a few more things black. Shocks and cam gear covers. Slowly starting to look the part.

I think new bars are in order.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Feb 21, 2017, 03:25:21
Been a while since an update.

But she is on the road as of today. Also running very rough. I expected this and have no doubt I am be cleaning the carbs again shortly. I also just ordered a new set of intake boots as I finally decided to stick with the twin carb setup. Not necessarily the two on it but that is in the future.

So I had to replace the exhaust with the dual pipes it came with as the one I welded up gave me no clearance when turning. Still want different pipes but I am thinking a cone on each side might be the go.

I have also been quite inspired by the HCM XV1100 build and would love to take this bike in that direction once I iron out the issues.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Feb 21, 2017, 03:28:20
(http://www.hagemanmc.com/images/work/15/2.jpg)

Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: der_nanno on Feb 21, 2017, 07:00:17
Nice work on the ol' Virago. You contemplated a single carb intake, which honestly you'd totally regret. If you're unhappy with the stock carbs, I am running VM38s on my TR1 and they are the dog's danglies. There's a 2in1 throttle cable for VM carbs and XS650-throttle-grips, which bolts up straight away and you'll need some new inlet manifolds UNLESS you skip the VM38s for TM38s as these are available with a throat in stock-carb outer diameter.

I have to admit I do like Hageman's Vinrago, but I think it would be very hard to build something along the same lines, which a) wouldn't be a blatant copy or b) look right. But then, that's what's called a challenge, right?

Cheers,
Greg
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Feb 21, 2017, 18:28:40
Thanks mate. I had been doing a bit of reading over at VTF and decided a dual carb setup would be the way to go. I have heard of a few people using the VM and TM carbs.

How did you fit your TMs to the TR1?

I agree about Hageman's bike, it would be hard to build and even harder to pull off a decent copy. But I really like the idea of rear sets, high flat seat and lower bars so I may just head in that direction. Cruisers are nice but not my style.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170221/471f685f795816754aafef1bf9119f5f.jpg)

Here she is with the old exhaust back on. This gives me the ground clearance I need but is not very nice looking. I have been thinking about using "GP" style mufflers, one on each side.

Anyway that is all just ideas in my head.
For now I need to touch up the paint on the front rim and rebleed the front brakes. Ohh and sort out the carb sync as I am fairly sure that is why it runs so bad. Just waiting on the new manifolds to arrive before I can do that.

On another note, is the an easy method for cleaning the oxidization off the engine while it is in the frame? I had thought about removing it but am wanting to ride it around whist working on it.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: spotty on Feb 21, 2017, 19:17:06
you could try soda blasting with the engine in frame, no nasty grit to get in anywhere and gentle enuf not to hurt the alloy, just rinse with water when you're done
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Feb 21, 2017, 20:13:31
That is what I was thinking Spotty.

Looks like I might need to get a soda gun.

Before I go ripping the carbs off again can anyone suggest a different area to check. Symptoms are backfire through exhaust and rarely through carbs.

Only recently started getting worse. I think the buggered intake boots are a major culprit.

I am going to recheck the valve clearance. I have already removed 1cm from each plug wire.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: spotty on Feb 21, 2017, 22:14:39
I made my own sodablaster, check here for ideas

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=home+made+soda+blaster

apparently the length of the uptake hose makes a difference so maybe experiment
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Feb 21, 2017, 22:40:25
Valve clearance is good on both cylinders.

Carbs had some junk in them so I gave them a blast out. Going to build a manometer tomorrow and try and sync them better than using my eye.

I plan to paint the valve covers while they are off. Ohh well time for work.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: der_nanno on Feb 22, 2017, 13:24:11
Thanks mate. I had been doing a bit of reading over at VTF and decided a dual carb setup would be the way to go. I have heard of a few people using the VM and TM carbs.
How did you fit your TMs to the TR1?

I run VM38s with the proper Mikuni VM38-200 inlet manifolds, for the connection to the frame/airbox i use some silicon elbows from a turbo shop. They need a bit of trimming but other than that look perfectly stock and are an easy fit.

Cheers,
Greg
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Feb 22, 2017, 14:17:27
I know you don't like the cruiser style scoots, man, but your bike looks pretty damned good as is.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Feb 22, 2017, 20:34:53
Thanks mate. I will definitely be changing the bar area. Thinking of going with straight risers and using the Acewell I have sitting around as well as a tiny headlight cowl I have.

As for the intake boots I just ordered stock replacements so looks like the TM will be the go if I decide I need to replace the carbs.

I am currently fixing all the ground locations in hopes that the TCI was just getting funny readings and that will solve the problem.

Still waiting for the epoxy paint to dry. "Don't paint when there is high humidity or temperature exceeding 30c" looks like I can never paint if I follow that. So not the best finish but this isn't a show bike. I think the term is a "10ft bike" looks great from 10ft away haha.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Feb 22, 2017, 21:06:18
I spoke to the motorcycle mech at work last night and he suggested either an air leak or ignition issue. So I have been looking over the current intake boots, looks like they are good on the inside but need new oring seals. I will get some tonight and try it again tomorrow. If that doesn't fix it I will buy new plug boots and head up the ignition circuit from there.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Feb 23, 2017, 21:20:56
Alright. Just been for a small ride. Still sputtering a tiny bit but otherwise it is great. I replaced the intake manifold o rings and stuck the carbs back in and it still sputtered and backfired.

It was running rich and would spit out black smoke if you twisted the throttle. After remembering about reading about this problem on VTF I pulled the coast enriched springs from each carb and she is a happy bike now.

The quick ride was up to the hardware store where I grabbed some vinyl tube and made a manometer. I was close with the sync but recon I should be a lot closer now.

So updated to do list:

Replace left fork seal. (I botched it on install but have a spare set)
Buy/build a decent air filter.
Rebleed brakes after replacing nipples.
Ride the snot out of it!

And then comes the want list:
Install acewell gauge (has been sitting on the shelf for years)
New bar risers and bars.
Build headlight cowl (old powder/grain scoop from work, just need trimming and brackets.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Feb 25, 2017, 23:10:21
Think I need to buy a carby rebuild kit.

Everything runs well at low throttle. Once I open her up she spits and dies.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Mar 04, 2017, 08:44:15
This bike is giving me hell with the carbs.

I have been through them again and used a can of carb cleaner on each, every passage way has to be clean yet still issues with them.

Going to try the 3k sync someone on VTF suggested and see if that makes a difference.

The rear cylinder is currently shooting flames every few cycles.

And I am supposed to be going for a ride tomorrow morning...

Ohh and I installed the new carb boots which made no difference. Starting to think it might be the TCI.

I have seen C5 ignitions system for this bike and it is on the wish lift for sure. Replaces the TCI with an optical and digital controlled which runs off the cam gear. Combined with a VOES and it has timing advance. But way to expensive for me at the current time.

Also, I hate these carbs
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Mar 05, 2017, 00:37:33
Still hate these carbs.

Went for a 100km ride today through the mountains with a few blokes from work. We had a CBR600RR, a GSXR1000 and a CBR1000RR followed by my XV1100. She couldn't keep up needless to say but that was always going to be the case.
I am missing a fair bit of metal off the bottom of the foot pegs from all the corners and know for sure that this bike has more power to give once I find out how to get at it.

So to be able to go for a ride I wound the rear AF mix screw out to 3 turns and the front was at 2.5, that was enough to get her to stop spitting but if I remove the air filter she will loose all power. So I am thinking it is running lean but am yet to check the plugs, which will probably be of no use as I was going through the rev range so often.

I am still thinking about building a higher sub frame and mounting rearsets.... but I think an ultrasonic clean and jet kit is in order well before that.

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Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Mar 07, 2017, 06:38:23
My fuel pump died. I opened it up to look an it was very crusty, rubber seals had gone hard and rotten.

I ordered a new pump and will look at mounting it in a different location.

Also I wired up the Acewell 2835 gauge I had sitting on the shelf I had forgotten about. Took a bit of tracing on the XV's wiring diagram but it all works. Still need to mount the sensor for the speedo.

The XV1100 has it fuse box located behind the stock idiot lights and it a bit of a pain to get at so I have ordered a new fuse box to replace it. Whilst I was looking at the wires I found that although I had an ignition fuse wired in from the fuse box harness there was never any connecting wires to the main harness, so I have been able to eliminate that 4 wire plug as the other 2 wires only provided illumination to the old cluster.

More to come soon, for now I need to replace the fork seals that I botched when installing so they stop leaking on my shed floor.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: der_nanno on Mar 07, 2017, 11:40:32
With the symptoms you describe, make sure your cams are timed correctly. Rear cylinder is #1 and front is #2.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Mar 07, 2017, 17:59:11
Thanks mate, I will have a look this afternoon and report back. I know the bike was running well before it was parked up and I am still very suspect of the carbs, especially now I have seen what was in the fuel pump which is post filter.

I still think a rebuild kit may be in order.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: der_nanno on Mar 08, 2017, 03:20:40
From what I've read so far: Most definitely. But just check the cam timing, especially the spitting flames out of the exhaust-part, reminded me of some mishaps in my own past with these beasts.  ;)
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: spotty on Mar 09, 2017, 01:09:29
maybe this is what you need to see off the fail , see greg from the above post re this....

http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=73141.0;topicseen
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Mar 09, 2017, 07:03:55
Just out of curiosity I pulled the fuel pump apart on the electrical side and everything seemed find. So I hooked it up to a 12v battery and it started ticking away. Well at least I know it works.

From what I can see in the wiring diagram it looks as if there is a part of the tacho which sends a signal to the fuel pump relay. Since I have removed that I decided to wire it back in as a test, this made no difference so I removed it again.
Then I noticed that the fuel warning light was connected to the relay as well and connected the two wires together and tried the pump again, sure enough it works. What I don't know is if it will continue to work after the initial 5 seconds it switches on for. It is to late to start the bike now so that will have to wait until tomorrow arvo.
I have not checked cam timing yet, it is on the list for tomorrow as well.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Mar 09, 2017, 07:05:16
Ha a turbo would be great but I have that many other issues I need to sort out along with the planned redesign.

I am still kicking myself for giving my TR1 tank to a friend, who would have thought I would want one 3 years later.

As for the rearsets I was given a pair off a fireblade by a mate at work. He had them sitting in his garage for a while and had no need for them. I am going to try and adapt them to fit as mid pegs instead of the stock towards.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Mar 10, 2017, 04:15:10
Managed to get the fork seals changes out but was dragged out of the shed to go to dinner with the missus.

Going to try and get the cam timing check done tomorrow morning.

I need to buy more fork oil and a 17mm key to finish the legs again.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Mar 13, 2017, 07:37:48
I have not had a chance to work on the bike due to extra work commitments. But I have been doing a bit of reading on my break.

Nanno, do you think an ignitec tic is a worthwhile upgrade. I love the idea of being able to reprogram the ignition and wish I could afford a C5 but they are well out of my budget considering the current value of the Aus $.

I have also been looking at a XV920 tank to replace mine as I like the shape and would like to be able to use the fuel meter function of my acewell.

I have asked one of the fitters at work to make some mounting plates for me so I can mount new pegs around where the swing arm pivot is. I will use the passenger peg mount points for the plates.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: der_nanno on Mar 14, 2017, 14:48:01
The ignitech is pretty awesome, it helped me a lot with my TR1 (not the turbo'ed one), to keep detonation and oil-temps at bay. So yes, definitely worth considering. You may also consider a coil-on-plug conversion (see my blog for details and suitable coils), I currently run Bandit 1250 plugs and they are really, really sweet. Especially as I've been riding a lot more in the rain, wet and cold than I wanted to in the last few weeks.

That being said, if your stock CDI isn't dead, I wouldn't necessarily replace it and go for a decent exhaust and proper roundslide carbs first, as the stock carbs REALLY kill power.

Hope this helps
Greg
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Mar 14, 2017, 15:10:44
Thanks mate, yeah new carbs are first on the list, followed by a 2-1 exhaust including new headers.

I have been eyeing off a pair of TM38 Mikuni, just need to put the dollars away now.

Stock TCI is still working as far as I can tell with these shot carbs. I will have a look at coil on plug as new coils were also on my list.

Thanks for the advice mate.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Maritime on Mar 14, 2017, 15:45:40
Hey Brodie, just realized I hadn't actually commented in here to get updates. I a doing a 750 and am wondering what you are doing for air filters? I haven't looked to much yet but we need to replace the airbox on the 750 as it got mangled, wondering if you have any research on what works.

Cheers

Maritime
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Mar 14, 2017, 18:04:03
Hey mate, I was planning on hooking up a mushroom style filter to the frame.

From what I have read the stock airbox works well if you drill a hole under the cover and use a k&n filter. I don't know where you are ment to drill though.

What do you need from the stock air box, I am not using mine.

Edit: I think the early XV750s have a very different airbox to the xv1100
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Maritime on Mar 14, 2017, 19:26:18
Cool. I need to look, was thinking the k&n if the box is still usable. The guy who caused the cam seize issue drilled the ait box but didnt rejett so i can maybe use the box with a k&n and I just ordered 2 new mains to up the jetting.

Got 126 and 128 hitachi jets which is +2 abd +3 sizes up. PO already had a 124 in because he had after market pipes
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: der_nanno on Mar 15, 2017, 06:29:54
I will have a look at coil on plug as new coils were also on my list.
Thanks for the advice mate.

No big deal, might help (indirectly) with the carbs as well, as you may end up with a lot stronger spark.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Mar 15, 2017, 09:40:10
Had a look at your blog Nanno, the 9 plate clutch conversion looks interesting. I also had a read on the jetting for your Daily TR1. How do the VM jet sizes compare to the TM?

Maritime, I have read about how painful the Hitachi carbs are to deal with. I have the later Mikuni BST carbs.

I have a friend at work who is making me some mount plates for the "rear sets" I was given. If everything works out I should have pegs mounted just below the swing arm pivot which means I will need a higher and further back seat. My plan was to take the original pan in to have it refoamed and shaped to what I am after. My only concern will be the amount of high density foam to get the seat to where I want it until I build a sub-subframe.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: der_nanno on Mar 15, 2017, 17:30:51
TM and VM jets would compare straight away, but this would mean that a TM38 and a VM38 are jetted exactly equally (same needle, needle-jet, but also slide-cutout and these are all different!)

There's a thread on ViragoTechForum though, where DGA outlines his TM jetting.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Maritime on Mar 15, 2017, 18:27:00
Cool. I know the hitachis will br a bit of a pain but I found proper jets abd can shim the needle with washers so hope to het it running well. If budget allows we nay swap out to better nechanical slide carbs and ditch the cv
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Mar 15, 2017, 18:36:27
Thanks Nanno, I will stop by there and have a look.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Mar 16, 2017, 18:22:58
I have the "midset" plates majority finished. I just need to grind a few places to get a better fitment to the frame. My mate at work has done a nice job on them. Made from 6mm stainless plate, to my crappy design. I went for function over form. Half the right side will be hidden behind the muffler once I get my new exhaust sorted.

I am very excited for the future of this bike. But I think the heads may need to be rebuilt in the near future. There is an oil leak through the front exhaust. I am hoping this will go away as I run the bike a bit longer, but I am also aware the valve seals may be shot from sitting so long.

If the heads do come off I will be replacing the plain bearing for a roller bearing for sure.

Pictures of the plates soon, need sleep first. Has been a long week of night shifts and I am expecting a call out tonight.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: der_nanno on Mar 17, 2017, 04:12:11
If you have to do the heads anyway, have a look at Xv750 heads. They do have smaller valves, but the boost in compression is well worth it...
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Mar 17, 2017, 15:20:58
I will keep that in mind.

For now I am going to dump the oil and replace it, it only has 250km since the last change but the one before that was around 15 years ago. I cannot imagine the manner of crap that may have dislodged.

Hopefully that will give me a better idea about what is going on inside.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Mar 20, 2017, 03:05:28
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Here is the initial mock up of the left side peg.

Seems to work alright, just need to tweak the linkage rod a bit more.

The right side is going to be a bit more difficult as I need to find or make an actuator to fit the stock spindle the stock lever connects to.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: spotty on Mar 20, 2017, 20:05:15


The right side is going to be a bit more difficult as I need to find or make an actuator to fit the stock spindle the stock lever connects to.

when I put forwards on my Honda 4 I had similar prob so I just got another stock brake pedal and cut it then attached the linkage rod to that, its easy cos it fits straight onto the spindle and can be attached at any angle that suits
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Mar 28, 2017, 04:26:17
I have decided to go down that route Spotty. Going to take the pedal into work tonight and cut and shape it there. Then it is only a matter of adding a small tab for the brake switch to work off.

I was looking at the part Cognito had but decided I was better off just making mods to mine. If I don't like the pegs or if I want to revert I will just use a linkage system instead of stock.

The seat has been stripped and I now have the old foam and cover sitting to the side, I will buy some new foam and shape a better seat for myself in a few days. Going away for the weekend so I won't be near the workshop.

My new fuel pump and fuse box arrived. The new pump moves a lot more fuel than the old one did so I am optimistic this is what was causing the lack of power at higher throttle openings. Although the new pump has 8mm fittings instead of the standard 6mm so I will need to make 2 adapters to suit. Just going to use brass barbs with a right angle fitting.

New bar risers have arrived and I have a set of old superbike bars I will clean up to use. Just need to get a fairing sorted and the speedo for the acewell and everything will come together in time.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Mar 29, 2017, 20:08:38
Bloody weather. We are ment to get 500mm of rain in my area today with high winds, I am stuck at work and I know my shed will flood.

So I fitted 6mm-8mm adaptor barbs to sort out the fuel pump and have put the new bars on. Decided that I will order new ones as the current are just to pitted.

New air filter has been fitted and the tank will be going back on shortly. Just need to purchase the foam for the seat. A friend of mine has just started an upholstery business so I will speak to her about a cover.

Made the rear brake actuator this morning and have bought a heim joint to fit to it. Just need to make the rod and the rear sets will be done.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: spotty on Mar 29, 2017, 20:47:38
coming together nicely then

I had planned to take a week off to go up to my mates new place (with a huge shed/workshop) and finally build the Onda4 of my desires (ludicrously big ratty trail bike) but I've just found out that due to people leaving work/new people starting/people going on holidays i'm not likely to see those holidays for at least 2 months and probably 3........I haven't had any time off in 6 years and i'm knackered

mrs spottys mum lives on magnetic island and we haven't heard from her since Debbie hit, just hoping the comms are down temporarily
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Mar 29, 2017, 23:04:40
Coming together indeed.

Pity about the time off. I have just been asked to stay back as most people are flooded in. Not sure why my work hasn't closed yet, people need milk I guess.

SES were talking about power and phones being out on the islands. Hope the MIL is alright mate.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Apr 04, 2017, 05:34:01
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Just a quick update. Bars contact tank at switches so I will have to order a set with a slightly higher rise.

Thinking I might need to trim the seat pan at the rear to get the shape I want out of it.

As for colour, I am thinking either gloss black with gold trim or "triumph thruxton" green with yellow trim. What is everyone's opinion as I can't decide.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: spotty on Apr 04, 2017, 21:14:20
I thought paint only came in matt black
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: der_nanno on Apr 05, 2017, 03:10:00
I thought paint only came in matt black

Irritating, ain't it?

I'd go with flat-black and maybe red-wheels if you absolutely MUST add a colour to the bike ;-)
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Apr 05, 2017, 06:26:49
I feel like Matt black 80s/90s cruiser is seriously over done.

Maybe a nice satin black with metallic accents/stripes.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: spotty on Apr 05, 2017, 18:47:54
I did a paint job on the max last year that was matt black with gloss black stripes, would have looked great except for the masking tape buggering up the gloss bits

may revisit that one soon

did you get much water inundation after the rains?
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Apr 05, 2017, 18:49:22
That would have been nice. Had not thought of that.

No water issues in my area, still raining on and off though.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: spotty on Apr 05, 2017, 18:50:01
at least you're not in rockie
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Apr 05, 2017, 18:51:02
Ha yeah they need to change the name of that place is the water hangs around.

I sold my ts185 yesterday so I should be able to buy 2 tm38s for this old girl.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: spotty on Apr 05, 2017, 18:51:50
soghampton perhaps
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Apr 06, 2017, 03:48:51
That or Loch Hampton.

Bought some foam to shape my new seat out of today. Went with fairly high density stuff to build up the seat and then some high density stuff for comfort. Bloody spray glue cost more than the foam did and I am sure I won't use all of it.
Title: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: advCo on Apr 06, 2017, 04:01:15
I like the thought of green, maybe yellow but dark green and gold might be nice.

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Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Apr 06, 2017, 08:52:16
Yep, that is one of the styles I was thinking. Just not sure I want to paint until I decide on the tank I want.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Apr 13, 2017, 02:56:26
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Nearly done with the new seat foam. I know it is going to look of with such a large area of vertical seat cover but I am hoping this will be broken up by the two different colours used in the cover.

Still need to do a bit more shaping and put the smoothing foam over it but at least it resembles the shape I was after. Not bad for my first seat I think but then I am bias.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: canyoncarver on Apr 13, 2017, 17:28:08
I dig where you are going with it.  Trim that seat lower edge to fit more of a frame line.  Maybe do a faux oilbag as sidecovers.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Apr 13, 2017, 20:07:52
Thanks. I was thinking about trimming the pan, my only concern was losing some of the strength. I will have a closer look and see how much I can remove but as you can see from the first pic there is not much to be taken away.

My other option is to build an extra subframe. The current set up is quite comfortable, I have taken the grey foam right to the pan at the back just to get my placement further back.
Due to the rear sets and low bars not much weight is on that area.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Apr 16, 2017, 23:36:47
Just a quick picture update, sorry for the bad photos my phones camera doesn't deal well with shadows.

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Rear sets fitted but not finished. I still need to adjust heights a little and a few more fittings.

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Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Apr 18, 2017, 18:29:16
New carbs and fairing arrived today. They are very nice and I can tell they are both from the same mold. The fairing is quite nice as well for a Chinese unit but a little bigger than I expected.

So I have been thinking about paint and decided I do want to paint it dark green. I had a crazy idea about using chalkboard paint but it is brush on so I might give that a miss.

As for the seat cover. I want brown on the seat and had thought of using a brown panel in the centre of the seat. I am now thinking of using brown on the outside with black around the lower section to try and hide the bulkyness of the seat. If I design the brown on the cover to only drop as low as the bottom of the tank and use black below that it should help. What is everyone else opinion.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Apr 18, 2017, 20:27:44
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Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Apr 18, 2017, 22:36:39
Out with the old.
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In with the new.
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And the verdict is......       Front cylinder not firing.
So as this is my first bike that isn't a thumper I have a question to those in the know. Will the idle being different effect if the cylinder fires or not?

If it is not fuel the next thing will be checking the coil, which will be new to me as well.

Dummy fitted the fairing as well. I am not sure on the height. I might get some headlight ears and a new headlight if I don't like it. Otherwise the bike is heading in the direction I had hoped for.
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Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: canyoncarver on Apr 18, 2017, 23:16:14
I dig the little fairing.  The carbs are a smart mod too.  Nice stuff.  As for the testing, you have a good digital volt meter right?
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Apr 19, 2017, 00:56:04
Nope. I have access to one though. I will need to do a bit of research I think.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: canyoncarver on Apr 19, 2017, 01:07:02
Voltmeter solution:  https://goo.gl/YcZfjr
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Apr 23, 2017, 21:01:27
Alright it is running on both cylinders now. I had changed the manifold clamp and spark plug and adjusted the carb settings and she sprung to life. I think it is a little rich on idle so I have plenty more tuning to do. Waiting on my throttle cable to arrive and I need to make adaptors to fit the carbs to the "air box" frame.

I also need to fab a bracket to mount the fairing to and shorten the brass part of the speedo hub so my acewell pick up will work.

Going to have a go at making a new exhaust that will fit around the Rear sets this afternoon. Just need to get my welder going again.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Apr 24, 2017, 04:23:53
I made a new exhaust.

It looks crap.

No pictures.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Apr 25, 2017, 03:02:40
Did a bit more work. This is an old triumph muffler that is the same as what is on my SR250, just the other side of the pair.

I cut up the first set of pipes I made to make this. The hardest part was cutting the bevel out of the pipe to join both together. It has a few leaks I have been chasing. My old "gasless mig" can poop out some ok welds on the of occasion but most need cleaning up with the flap disk.

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This needs a lot more work but I have gone through my flap disk and the shops are closed.
Planning on painting this and the front header flat black.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Apr 25, 2017, 06:26:13
Just drew up a cad image for a mounting plate for the fairing. Going to get one of the guys at work to cut it from stainless for me and hopefully I can get the thing mounted before the weekend.

I still need to reduce the length of where the speedo drive meets the cable as the new digital pickup is shorter than the original. About half an inch needs to be removed so I was going to give that a go tomorrow.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Apr 29, 2017, 22:44:43
I finished glueing the seat foam. I am not happy with the lump in the front but I am hoping it will be hidden once the cover is made.
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Filled a few holes in the exhaust and painted it. Looks good enough until I can have a new system made.

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I am still undecided on if I should go for a metallic green or just flat for the bike but I am leaning toward metallic.

Thinking of painting 2 stripes, one smaller, across all the panels. It will be hard to keep them inline but should be a nice accent. Going to go gold for them.

Still waiting on a few parts for the intake before I give it a run. Don't want to suck anything in to my new carbs that shouldn't go there. I need to have the throttle cable shortened as well. New bars are on the way that are a slight bit higher than the current set.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on May 21, 2017, 04:48:53
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I had forgotten to post a picture with the fairing fitted. It has been slow going the past few weeks. I hope to have it painted soon and am about ready to try and make a seat cover myself.

China is still to provide me with the parts I need for my intake and I need an adaptor made to allow me to use the speedo drive for the acewell. Had to wait for a M12x1 die to come in the mail.
Title: Re: "Vicious" Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on May 27, 2017, 02:51:19
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Paint is on the front fender and tank. I followed the directions from the rattle can bling page. Very lumpy finish but the thread calls for a light sand after because of this.
I am going to give the 2k clear a go. Not sure how rattle can 2k will play out. But I am short on cash most of the time and won't fork out for a pro job. So the XV is now an "Unclean Green Thrilling Machine"

I have some gold Yamaha tuning for logos to go either side of the tank and an extra. I was thinking the extra may just go on the rear fender. This green should tie in well with the planned brown seat cover.

One of the boys at work made up the speedo hub adapter I needed and in my excitement I stuck it straight back in without taking a picture. It is just s short piece of brass with a M12x1 thread. Yet to test if the Acewell reads correctly but there have been a few handy speed reader signs put up around my area. Anything over 50 and they swap to "SLOW DOWN" so I should be able to see how accurate it is at least.

I am still waiting on a light for the low fuel indicator and still need to remove and prep the fairing and rear fender but 1 step closer is better than none. I also need to buy some black finter foam to replace the red as that stand out like.. well..
This also applies to the red levers I decided on when this was going to be a different style build. I would like to find a larger master cylinder to suit this bike so new levers and such will be down the road a bit further.
Title: Re: Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on May 29, 2017, 15:46:11
Painted the rear fender last night.

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I am undecided if I should paint the fairing or not.
Title: Re: Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Jun 05, 2017, 18:01:38
Not much has changed visually over the past week but I have finished up most of the wiring and a few other bits and pieces.

I fitted the new reg/rec to the back of the battery box and ran a ground straight to the negative terminal on the battery. It is hidden away nicely and has plenty of air around it so hopefully it will last for a long time.

The new fuse box is located above the headlight but below the the fairing mount plate. It is a bit of a pain to get to but that was the closest to stock location.

I have a few more things I need to do but plan to be testing the new carbs this weekend.

At some stage I will order a new lever set and front brake line and I need to find a different air filter but for now everything I have is useable, just not suited to the new colour and style of the bike.
Title: Re: Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Jun 09, 2017, 04:42:56
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Looks good but is running like crap. Way to rich. I am going to open the carbs and reset the needle to the centre position. Sooted up the plugs I had in straight away and then died at the bottom of a hill. The other set of plugs lasted longer as I removed the air filter for another test run.

I am fairly happy with the paint and decal work. It is not the best but for my first time pinstripeing I am happy with it.
Title: Re: Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Jun 09, 2017, 21:49:32
After a bit of stuffing around this morning I have worked out that I will need to order new pilot jets.

I returned the needle to the centre position and the bike is a blast to ride once it stumbles and backfires to be off the pilot jets.

Current jets are 22.5 and I am at 3 turns out. The plugs are so sooty the bike dies after a small run.

I am thinking of running the 17.5 jets but don't know if that will be to much of a step down.

Anyone that knows how to tune could you please give me your advice.
Title: Re: Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: der_nanno on Jun 16, 2017, 11:12:47
I run 17.5s and 160ies on my VM38s with my very open 2in1in2 exhaust, so even though this is nothing to go by, it is definitely within a range of settings that can be considered reasonable.

Cheers,
Greg
Title: Re: Ugly Punx XV1100
Post by: Brodie on Jun 16, 2017, 11:15:27
Thanks Greg. I was worried the 17.5 might be too small. I will install them tomorrow and see how shed goes.