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Author Topic: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750  (Read 57112 times)

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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #390 on: Jan 22, 2017, 10:13:33 »
So - change of title, change of direction !

See previous post for the reason d'etre. Part of anyway. Bottom line is that there's a slight swerve in the direction. The rolling chassis remains as is - maybe clip-ons and 7R race seat,  oh and that Metisse / Norvil half fairing oh and maybe a 7R style tank .......... But essentially good to go.

Engine is growing a GT15 turbo - blowing through the 40dcoe and manifold I already have.

Is it still a Flat Tracker? Or morphing into a Cafe Racer? Or even a Special !!

There will now be some additional engine work to upgrade the oil supply ( cooler and turbo requirements ) as well as a twin spark plug conversion.

Such enthusiasm!

I didn't care for the round number plate on a tracker anyway  :-X

Looking forward to more updates.
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #391 on: Jan 22, 2017, 16:09:17 »
Such enthusiasm!

I didn't care for the round number plate on a tracker anyway  :-X

Looking forward to more updates.

Thanx for the encouragement, I' m beginning to get back my previous enthusiasm that had waned in the past 18 months.

This new direction gets me into the engine innards, my favourite place ! It also involves some lateral and intuitive thinking to resolve the inevitable issues I will encounter breaking new ground.

I rigged the GT15 turbo up - perfect, could have been made for the job.

Can't wait to get this puppy finished and fired up. Yep, mojo is back folks.
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #392 on: Jan 22, 2017, 16:53:58 »
Don't you love it when the plan you didn't ACTUALLY HAVE - WORKS !!

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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #393 on: Jan 22, 2017, 23:49:20 »
Un Escargot  ;D
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #394 on: Jan 23, 2017, 05:01:16 »
Looks miniscule alongside my T3........... :o

However a lot of bikers use them over here [ especially the EU ] and apparently they spool up like a "Banshee"  according to der_nanno !!

Packaging couldn't be better / simpler. Cuts down dramatically on fab / machining / favours front. Win, win situation. 8) 

Think I'll have to make some brackets to support the turbo, as the exhaust [ which traditionally supports the unit ] will not be up to the job / marginal. No biggie, just need to build in some flexibility into the mounts - back to the frame.
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #395 on: Jan 23, 2017, 09:56:12 »
Wonder if and old BSA 650 could.... naaaah never mind




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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #396 on: Jan 23, 2017, 10:36:16 »
There were lots of blown ( Shorrock mainly ) BSA and Triumph twins around in my day, mostly on Sprinters ( prior to Dragsters ) but a few did see street duty.

One of my Triumph kneeler outfits ( road ridden ) had a C75B Shorrock blower - that was silly quick but kept eating pistons due to lack of retard at the top end!
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #397 on: Jan 26, 2017, 08:59:18 »
Moving ahead ............ The head ( boom, boom ) is getting the twin plug treatment next month - courtesy of KK.

Der- Nanno is schooling me in on blowing through the Weber  - all looking good.

In reality the only difference externally is the addition of the turbo to my Weber set up.

I dropped the 7R styled tank from my abandoned "Vindicator" TR1 cafe racer on the frame - doesn't look half bad.

Just need to sort out the auxiliary oil supply for the oil cooler / turbo.

There's a guy that does a reasonably priced Avon Metisse 1/2 fairing ( Ragged Edge racing ) with screen for around £120. We'll see.
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #398 on: Jan 26, 2017, 09:06:26 »
Love the direction this is going!
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #399 on: Jan 26, 2017, 09:45:50 »
Der- Nanno is schooling me in on blowing through the Weber  - all looking good.

Glad I can be of help. Should you run into packaging issues, there's also in-tank fuel pumps, which make the whole plumbing a lot easier... The ones for a Harley Sportster should do the trick in terms of flow. Unfortunately the TR1 fuel tank is too narrow, so I'll have to go for an external one on my old Turbobike.
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #400 on: Jan 26, 2017, 14:05:27 »
Glad I can be of help. Should you run into packaging issues, there's also in-tank fuel pumps, which make the whole plumbing a lot easier... The ones for a Harley Sportster should do the trick in terms of flow. Unfortunately the TR1 fuel tank is too narrow, so I'll have to go for an external one on my old Turbobike.

Very helpful - grateful thanx.

Maritime - it's amazing how these things develop like they have a mind of their own.

In the past - weird projects were usually fuelled by alcohol !! Seemed like A GOOD IDEA AT THE TIME - YOU KNOW HOW IT GOES.

Like the time when I was running a major replica car company [ Sheldonhurst Ltd ] and we all went down the pub in my Citroen CX Estate for a quick lunchtime drink [ 3 hours ].

We needed a pick up for my business - don't really know how it happened - BUT WE DECIDED IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO CHOP THE CX DOWN INTO A PICK UP !!! By 7.30 I went home in a rudimentary pick up ! It was finished and later became a very good bike transporter.

However, no alcohol involved this time - just the feel good factor of finally getting my health back in order [ 'ish ].

Funds will dictate if it evolves into that 60's style Cafe Racer I wanted to build or not.

And the Drag Racing ???? Been 30 years since I last raced ....................
« Last Edit: Feb 24, 2017, 07:09:04 by beachcomber »
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #401 on: Feb 03, 2017, 08:22:06 »
The turbo project is definitely a goer - thanx to all for your invaluable feedback.

Plan is now for a blow through system using the Garrett GT15 - via the Weber 40DCOE and the manifolds I have already.

My pal KK is sorting out a spare engine and we're doing a barter deal on that to keep costs down !

Now then -  you know the old saying - "a friend in need .......... is a pain in the ass".

Well, I'm in need of some of that help. UK based obviously.

Due to my well known lack of facilities / skills, I need some bits making / welding etc.

There's TWO PROJECTS IN FACT THAT I NEED THIS KIND OF HELP WITH

Happy to pay - not asking for freebies [ mate's rates would be good though ! ], it's just that I'm well out of the loop with local artisans. All the peeps I used  / employed when I had my business are themselves retired -or dead !

Most of the parts I need are small enough to be posted / couriered and simple enough for a sketch / drawing.

There's no immediate rush - just need to get my ducks in a row. 

Odd bits of alloy welding, turning a small adaptor [ alloy ] flange, turbo exhaust flange including support mounts.

There, not too proud to ask for help.

The Cut down Citroen CX estate ................ went to work in an estate car - went home with a pick up !!!

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« Last Edit: Feb 12, 2017, 07:18:59 by beachcomber »
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #402 on: Feb 03, 2017, 09:11:31 »
I'm sure you'll have no trouble getting those parts knocked out Beach.

Love the Moroso sponsor on that Aussie Citroen, I lined up for my first road race at Moroso West Palm, my leathers fast became a wet suit after standing it up from an inside rub, got the chicken shits and drove it right into the swamp... Was still as fun as anything I've done sense  :P Seems me and taking things with wheels for a swim has been a constant, some day I'll tell you the story about a C10, a curb, 50 feet of chain link fence and how good the headlights work at the bottom of a canal in south Miami  ;D

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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #403 on: Feb 12, 2017, 06:11:31 »
Ended up buying a generic turbo exhaust flange - probably as cheap as getting one made anyway.

Same company fabs the triangular intake [ turbo exhaust ] flange, so I'll probably get one of those as well - still arguing the price !

I have the remains of a wrecked bottom end [ casings ] and damaged barrels coming FOC thanx to Kenny on the Lonesome Twin forum - and I'll use that as the set up mule. Saves humping a complete engine around and no doubt with the accompanying damage to my newly powder coated frame ! ;) He's also loaning me a cylinder head so I can finalise the set up of the Intake / Weber / Turbo

I dropped the modified TR1 tank on  [ ex. Vindicator ] just as a "whatif" - and with a bit of massaging underneath it should fit. That's the 7R / G50 'ish styled tank I was prepping.

Still a bit undecided whether to stick to the Flat Track style, or switch over to 60's Cafe Racer styling. ?  ::)
« Last Edit: Feb 12, 2017, 06:13:34 by beachcomber »
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #404 on: Feb 12, 2017, 07:11:12 »
And here's the pix of the twin plug conversion.

Mine is the next one into the jig !



"if at first you don't succeed, you've already been a failure once"

" we're not going back to the sixties - we never left "

"yep, nostalgia ain't what it used to be"

"I used to be indecisive - now I'm not so sure"