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Author Topic: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750  (Read 65380 times)

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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #405 on: Feb 14, 2017, 18:57:21 »
Cases and head / barrels arrived today. Unfortunately too late to get it all into the shed.

Well, I HAD to unpack it ..... then I HAD to check it out ......... then I thought - hmm might as well just try the manifolds / Weber .............

It'll be in the rolling chassis by the weekend, then I can check out the packaging of the Turbo etc.

I'll just put it on the coffee table while I unpack it and check it out .............




Short manifold



Long manifold
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #406 on: Feb 14, 2017, 20:17:07 »
And here's the pix of the twin plug conversion.

Mine is the next one into the jig !








Man O Man Beach, I had not heard of doing dual plugs on this motor.    Very cool stuff you are doing.   Glad you got the wind back in your sails.

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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #407 on: Feb 14, 2017, 21:20:18 »
Good to see it's all happening BC!

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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #408 on: Feb 15, 2017, 01:21:23 »
Nice. Short mani looks very neat.

Also I have the same cabinet. Well built old thing, I keep all my bar ware and booze in it.

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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #409 on: Feb 15, 2017, 05:26:12 »
Nice. Short mani looks very neat.

Also I have the same cabinet. Well built old thing, I keep all my bar ware and booze in it.

Yep, booze / bar ware in the top - magazines and reference books in the bottom !!
"if at first you don't succeed, you've already been a failure once"

" we're not going back to the sixties - we never left "

"yep, nostalgia ain't what it used to be"

"I used to be indecisive - now I'm not so sure"

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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #410 on: Feb 15, 2017, 08:40:56 »
Nice, love it when I get stuff in the post!
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #411 on: Feb 15, 2017, 13:12:13 »
So. decided to do the mock up today - shopping can wait !

That meant turning the rolling chassis round 180 degrees .......... and the rolling chassis is longer than the shed is wide. Even with the forks and wheels out it took 30 minutes of manhandling swearing and skinned knuckles to get it done.

Why turn it round ? I need access to the turbo exhaust and mounting.  Still, done now.

So I decided to give the shopping a complete swerve and carry on with the mock up. Actually didn't take that long - however, not terribly impressed with the alignment of various mountings and fixings. Would have been a right mission with a whole engine !  Before I get to it, I'll open out all the various holes / brackets.

Anyway - I'd got the long manifold / Weber mounted up yesterday and tried that first. About 3" too long enough !!!! However the shorter of the two is SPOT on - thanx KK.  I've got room to get the plenum chamber in [ bolted to back of Weber ] and get a decent flow to the carb.

The oil scavenge [ turbo ] is too low and will need a scavenge pump if I am to use the original Breather canister vents.  I'll definitely use one as a breather, and probably take it direct to the exhaust via a one way flame trap [ a la Dragsters ].

Other jobs that need attention. ..... A support bracket for the Weber from the head. support bracket for the turbo. Exhaust in and out looks straightforward.  Even the main exhaust doesn't look too bad now I've bolted the Ex. stubs up [ thanx Hoggy ]

Shopping ..... who needs milk, bread, meat etc. anyway







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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #412 on: Feb 15, 2017, 13:18:55 »








Beach, tell me about that jagged looking hole where the oil filter goes?  Please forgive me if I missed something already. 
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #413 on: Feb 15, 2017, 13:20:19 »
Those are old cases he got to do mock up. his motor is good.
The GL Rebirth: http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=68337.0
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #414 on: Feb 15, 2017, 14:33:52 »
CC, Maritime has it spot on. The wrecked bottom end was donated by a fellow Lonesome Twin ( KZ750 ) forum member. He bought the bike, and when he got it home discovered the motor was totally grenaded !! Looked like (to me) a rod bolt came undone and the rod flailed around taking lumps of engine casing and other parts with it !

He loaned me in the same deal the undamaged head and barrels with lump out of one liner so I can get the mock up going.

As well as my original engine, I've done a deal with the LT forum originator ( KK ) for another excellent engine. That's the one that's getting the twin plug treatment.

The engine's are truly bulletproof, massively over engineered - which is just as well given the plans for it !

Don't forget I still need a couple of NOS foggers ...........
"if at first you don't succeed, you've already been a failure once"

" we're not going back to the sixties - we never left "

"yep, nostalgia ain't what it used to be"

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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #415 on: Feb 15, 2017, 16:42:11 »
CC, Maritime has it spot on. The wrecked bottom end was donated by a fellow Lonesome Twin ( KZ750 ) forum member. He bought the bike, and when he got it home discovered the motor was totally grenaded !! Looked like (to me) a rod bolt came undone and the rod flailed around taking lumps of engine casing and other parts with it !

He loaned me in the same deal the undamaged head and barrels with lump out of one liner so I can get the mock up going.

As well as my original engine, I've done a deal with the LT forum originator ( KK ) for another excellent engine. That's the one that's getting the twin plug treatment.

The engine's are truly bulletproof, massively over engineered - which is just as well given the plans for it !

Don't forget I still need a couple of NOS foggers ...........




Ah, that makes sense.   I figured something like that but was in a hurry and didn't read enough, my bad.  I have two of these motors for my build just in case.  Neither will be as ambitious as yours.  I always forget about the lonesome twin site.  I should probably try to get a login over there and check it out again.   
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #416 on: Feb 16, 2017, 06:04:20 »



Ah, that makes sense.   I figured something like that but was in a hurry and didn't read enough, my bad.  I have two of these motors for my build just in case.  Neither will be as ambitious as yours.  I always forget about the lonesome twin site.  I should probably try to get a login over there and check it out again.   

Hell yes - not a busy site, but plenty of knowledgeable peeps and one guy ( Kaptain Kwak ) has a huge stash of NOS and used parts. C'mon over cuz.

Originally my plan was to use the Weber 40dcoe, purely as a road bike ............ However, my past life involved tuning, building, developing race and road V8s - mainly for Drag Racing, so it didn't take long to persuade myself to take the motor a little further!

The KZ750 was never a popular bike in the UK, so they're pretty rare on the road - and even more so as a basis for a Cafe Racer / special.

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" we're not going back to the sixties - we never left "

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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #417 on: Feb 16, 2017, 08:26:04 »
Wonder what the "hole" can be if it runs so well  ???

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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #418 on: Feb 16, 2017, 09:46:58 »
When the PO bought his bike he was told it was running OK!

He couldn't get it started so decided to pull the head. That's when he found the mayhem inside.  He now has a new engine and has donated the wrecked casings to me to use as a mock up mule.

My "excellent" engine is coming from another forum member.  AND I still have my original engine, which is also in excellent condition.
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #419 on: Feb 16, 2017, 10:19:50 »
I may inquire and it's a short ride to see so for $500 "ask" I may find out if it's grenaded or just something simple, these are getting some attention and I may be able to flip it and have a little fun tinkering 🤠


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