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Author Topic: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750  (Read 84754 times)

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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #430 on: Feb 21, 2017, 16:17:15 »
TAF - everything is still on the table ! A Honda mini bike external (?) pump has been suggested. Whatever I go with - I have to outsource the work which means keeping it as simple as possible to keep costs down.

CC - yes some good stuff on the LT forum. Like I said I spoke with KK on the phone last night and he is looking out for your mail. This conversion has had some hard use (865cc) for many miles with no issues.

Teazer - I really do have a dilemma here ! You know my roots, and when I had to sell off the Vindicator I was gutted. So, does this bike become my swansong Cafe Racer, or do I stick with "something different"??

AND like you say, ( especially at 3 score and 13 ) maybe high bars makes sense for a road bike. That said, the project seems to be taking a competition direction - all on it's own!

In an ideal World I'd probably get a second KZ and have one of each style !

Fortunately the rolling chassis is at a point where swapping one style for another is simples. I have 7R and Flat Track seat, Tarrozi rearsets already fitted and I have early Tarrozi clip ons AND F/T bars !

Only the tank needs sorting styling wise.

Decisions, decisions........ Fortunately none of the above affects the mechanical build. 8)
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #431 on: Feb 21, 2017, 18:20:38 »
interesting setup on that extra pump oil cooler lines. I have a friend making me a billet oil filter cover that will allow the use of an oil cooler on my 750. always interesting to see how different people solve the same problem.
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #432 on: Feb 21, 2017, 23:09:36 »
always interesting to see how different people solve the same problem.

And that's what makes the world go round. ;D


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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #433 on: Feb 22, 2017, 05:45:00 »
interesting setup on that extra pump oil cooler lines. I have a friend making me a billet oil filter cover that will allow the use of an oil cooler on my 750. always interesting to see how different people solve the same problem.

It's a simple and practical solution on this particular engine - and keeps everything inside !  The reason I like this solution is that it takes no oil away from the OEM system. Additionally the turbo oiling requirements are completely opposite to a roller bearing bottom end - ie high pressure low volume. That in turn would mean selecting the oil pressure relief valve spring to suit. The only addition I would make is some sort of vertical baffle between the two pick ups to avoid the possibility of cavitation.

There must be hundreds of compact bike / car oil pumps out there suitable for the job !
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #434 on: Feb 23, 2017, 08:35:04 »
I think the late night trawling of E Bay has come up trumps - maybe.

Came across this little baby which LOOKS to be OK size wise.

From a 2008 - 2010 Suzuki GSXR 600.

I need the measurement for the overall clearance to the sump base. As in the pic of the conversion by Chris LWG. IE from where he has mounted the pump base to the bottom of the oil strainer / sump base.

The rotation of the pump is irrelevant as it can be driven from either end.

These pumps are relatively inexpensive and if they will do the job - will mean minimal extra fab work.

Could be driven externally as the inlet / outlet bosses could be rigged up for hoses.

I think the late night trawling of E Bay has come up trumps - maybe.

O/A length is 165mm

O/A height 70mm

Height to c/l of pump drive 30mm.




« Last Edit: Feb 23, 2017, 08:39:02 by beachcomber »
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #435 on: Feb 23, 2017, 09:58:30 »
This is the simple way my friend



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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #436 on: Feb 23, 2017, 10:43:28 »
TAF - thanx for the headsup - planning on using one for the turbo scavenge. I've found a Chinabay version for £50.

A bit nervous about using one for oil delivery, however you are quite right - that would mean ALL my oiling requirements would be solved for £100 'ish and no need for me to get parts made out.

I'll check the specs for the different pumps - over 30 variants available !
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #437 on: Feb 23, 2017, 10:49:09 »
TAF - thanx for the headsup - planning on using one for the turbo scavenge. I've found a Chinabay version for £50.

A bit nervous about using one for oil delivery, however you are quite right - that would mean ALL my oiling requirements would be solved for £100 'ish and no need for me to get parts made out.

I'll check the specs for the different pumps - over 30 variants available !

Just be cautious of anything shipping from Beijing the good tooling is all in Guangzhou and Shenzhen.
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #438 on: Feb 23, 2017, 10:52:41 »
Also, you would serve yourself well to take the whole lot to a qualified electric tool repair shop to have the motor checked over for QA purposes. Chances are they have seen the guts before.
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #439 on: Feb 23, 2017, 11:05:25 »
Just be cautious of anything shipping from Beijing the good tooling is all in Guangzhou and Shenzhen.

+ 1 to this. I have audited many factories over there and all my good suppliers were in one of those two regions. I was buying alloy extrusions and electric components for HRV's circuit boards, electric motors etc.
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