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Author Topic: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750  (Read 59678 times)

Offline Maritime

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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #450 on: Mar 03, 2017, 10:32:09 »
That's what we are all here for, keep each other from screwing up more than necessary LOL.
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #451 on: Mar 03, 2017, 13:14:52 »
That's what we are all here for, keep each other from screwing up more than necessary LOL.

I need all the help I can get !!!
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #452 on: Mar 03, 2017, 18:16:49 »
Haha had to laugh about the pump test. I have been in a few situations like that.

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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #453 on: Mar 04, 2017, 14:30:18 »
I hope this now starts to make sense.   Rolleyes

Drive will be taken from alternator centre screw, but will require an oil seal on the cover plate - maybe a new plate ?

I was going to get a sump made for the turbo oil return [ quote £55 ]-  then came across this on Chinabay - £25 delivered ! Fits in perfectly under swingarm [ behind engine ] and is 2 litres capacity - ideal.

I might move the oil pump forward to just above the oil filter housing - just depends on the hosing routes.

I was looking at modifying the oil cooler I found in my garage.  The Fittings are £15 - a NEW cooler WITH fittings from Chinabay £18 !

Decided to upgrade to the cooler with swivel 10 AN hose fittings .......... £29.00  !! Hose fittings alone in the UK £37.00

Schematic for oiling system now roughly sketched and just waiting for my approval !  Wink
« Last Edit: Mar 04, 2017, 14:44:30 by beachcomber »
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #454 on: Mar 07, 2017, 06:15:48 »
And here is the rough schematic [ auxiliary system only ].

The Gixer pump is shown here externally mounted, but when I open the motor up, I will be able to see if there's room to mount it inside - similar to ChrisLWG's conversion.

Remember the sketch is schematic layout - the oil cooler will live underneath the engine and provide an additional 1 ltr of oil. Oh yes, and the turbo oil sump is NOT filled with oil, simply acts as a reservoir for the returning turbo oil.

I managed to sell my spare V6 Volvo engine and 3 x gearboxes last weekend. That frees up much needed space in my garage - and some fighting funds for the project.  8)

That means I can now clear a path to my bike stand, and more importantly - the KZ engine that 's been sat on it for 12 months !

Then it's sump and side covers off so I can at last get a good look inside. MY OEM WORKSHOP MANUAL ARRIVES TODAY / TOMORROW -  so no excuses now about what's what and how it functions.  ::)
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #455 on: Mar 07, 2017, 16:52:23 »
Nice progress Beach!   Fighting for space is one of my battles as well.   I like the sketch, really helps visualize your plan. 
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #456 on: Mar 08, 2017, 07:13:17 »
CC,

It will be much simpler / neater IF there is room inside AND I can get direct drive alignment from the OEM pump drive wheel. Hopefully I can get my original engine opened up in the next 2 weeks.
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #457 on: Mar 09, 2017, 05:41:24 »
Just so I have all my options to hand after I get the motor opened up, I pulled the trigger on this little [ not so little ! ] gem from Chinabay.

Just under £50 delivered [ FOUR days ! ] it looks very well made and comes from the preferred provinces !

What isn't obvious from the pix is the fact it's very substantial - ie - a big fucka !  :o

Around 4 lbs weight and about the size of a KZ starter motor.

So now I can contemplate several options depending on if there is room inside the crankcases for the Gixer pump. I hope so - as I now have THREE of them [ don't ask ]. ::)
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #458 on: Mar 09, 2017, 12:19:21 »
I'm asking..   ;)     three pumps?
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #459 on: Mar 09, 2017, 14:16:29 »
I'm asking..   ;)     three pumps?

CC,

You know how it goes when you are bidding on several items ????? !!!!!!!

That's how I got 2 of them. The third one ? At £8 including the drive wheel and relief valve - no brainer. Especially as another supplier wanted £20 for those two items on their own.

All 3 are in excellent condition - at least I have plenty of spars now !
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #460 on: Mar 09, 2017, 18:53:21 »
Well if you can get it to work easy enough you could sell the other 2 with instructions as a kit.

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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #461 on: Mar 10, 2017, 05:18:20 »
Well if you can get it to work easy enough you could sell the other 2 with instructions as a kit.

Already got enquiries on that front !
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #462 on: Mar 11, 2017, 14:46:22 »
This is what £18 gets you from Chinabay !  8)

SUPERB quality - complete with it's own foam case.

Definitely erring towards the Gixer pump now. Hoping there's room inside, if not -  it's an external setup.

A few more bits from Chinabay and I can start laying the parts out for a proper look see.
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #463 on: Mar 11, 2017, 22:54:48 »
Nice cooler.  Nice to know the quality on those seems good too. 
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #464 on: Mar 12, 2017, 05:43:31 »
Nice cooler.  Nice to know the quality on those seems good too. 

My pal just bought a similar item for his Husky race bike from a "leading well known UK supplier" - quite frankly the finish was BETTER on the Chinabay item. I paid £18 delivered to my door - he paid £45 for the rad with NO FITTINGS. And that wasn't as a "genuine" Husky part [ £75 ! ].

Of course at the moment I have no idea if it will perform the same, worse, better ...... but just looking at the quality of the component parts, welding etc. it would be hard to imagine it won't at least be as good.

And again - thanx to headsups from you guys, mine came from 1 of the "preferred" provinces.

On a similar score - I am a lifetime practitioner [ now lapsed ] of Kendo [ 1st Dan ] - but have recently taken up the study of Mugai Ryu - Japanese sword Zen meditation / swordplay. I still have several of my swords used for the Katas involved in Kendo - but I only have one with a "live" blade.

So back to Chinabay - and I now have a beautifully made sword for the cutting part of the Mugai Ryu practice ........... £125 delivered - £450 bought from a specialised UK outlet !

The sword is made in China for a Japanese company to their standards and then shipped to France for delivery to the UK. !

At the moment [ until Brexit ? ] that means no duty and no VAT [ 20% ].
"if at first you don't succeed, you've already been a failure once"

" we're not going back to the sixties - we never left "

"yep, nostalgia ain't what it used to be"

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