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Author Topic: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler  (Read 22117 times)

Offline ncologerojr

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Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
« Reply #10 on: Dec 23, 2015, 17:33:28 »

All in.   Good stuff.
Well that escalated quickly. Looks great!

Thanks guys.

Here is a bit more work on the tank. The first panel always takes the longest. This one is good for now, but it will probably get a bit more massaging once the other panels are complete and ready to be tacked together.


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Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
« Reply #11 on: Dec 23, 2015, 17:41:04 »
Just a tip- You can use hot glue to temporarily attach things to the frame for molding or testing.  I noticed your using bar clamps.  Hot glue pops right off of metal, especially when the weather gets colder.  It'll melt the foam, so it's best to apply glue to the frame and let it cool a sec before attaching the foam.

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Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
« Reply #12 on: Dec 23, 2015, 17:49:41 »

Just a tip- You can use hot glue to temporarily attach things to the frame for molding or testing.  I noticed your using bar clamps.  Hot glue pops right off of metal, especially when the weather gets colder.  It'll melt the foam, so it's best to apply glue to the frame and let it cool a sec before attaching the foam.

Thanks, but I already use hot glue lol. You can see the blue gun on the ground in the 2nd foam picture. I actually use it to hold the layers of foam together. I use the bar clamps because I am constantly taking the foam on and off to saw and shape. Re-glueing to the frame every time would be a pain.

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« Reply #13 on: Dec 23, 2015, 18:00:34 »
Thanks, but I already use hot glue lol. You can see the blue gun on the ground in the 2nd foam picture. I actually use it to hold the layers of foam together. I use the bar clamps because I am constantly taking the foam on and off to saw and shape. Re-glueing to the frame every time would be a pain.
To each his own.  I do it the same way. It just pops right off.  Pretty simple.  Hot glue is the worst for laminating the layers together because it's harder than the foam and doesn't carve the same way.  Your forms are pretty simple though, so maybe it doesn't effect your carving much.   I've been using the foam for many years as a sculpture base material, which gets carved, coated and cast. Fine detail can be important.  That foam is pretty versatile stuff. 

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Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
« Reply #14 on: Dec 23, 2015, 18:23:02 »

To each his own.  I do it the same way. It just pops right off.  Pretty simple.  Hot glue is the worst for laminating the layers together because it's harder than the foam and doesn't carve the same way.  Your forms are pretty simple though, so maybe it doesn't effect your carving much.   I've been using the foam for many years as a sculpture base material, which gets carved, coated and cast. Fine detail can be important.  That foam is pretty versatile stuff.

Yeah, the hot glue doesn't really affect the carving for me. Also I'm making one-off parts so the foam buck doesn't have to be perfect because I tweak it a bit as I go. If I was doing fine details like you I would agree to avoid the hot glue as well. I've heard that liquid nails works well and sets pretty fast, but I haven't had a chance to try it out yet. Spray adhesive eats into this insulation foam and is ineffective also. What do you use to laminate the layers?

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Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
« Reply #15 on: Dec 23, 2015, 18:34:55 »
3M 78 doesn't degrade the foam.  Liquid nails also gets hard and has a really long set time.  The truth is even the adhesives that melt the foam work as long as the adhesive is applied very very thinly.  In many cases, I've worked with the melting because if applied right away and held together, the two panels melt together.  You've got me pretty excited with using foam as a buck mold.  I was taught with wood and always went that route.  Foam is so much easier to get the form sorted.  Up to this point, I had only used it for fiberglass or various casting media.  The one thing with a wood buck is being able to clamp the piece.  I look forward to see you develop your tank and use the bucks as the form gets more complex. 


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Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
« Reply #16 on: Dec 24, 2015, 08:35:32 »

3M 78 doesn't degrade the foam.  Liquid nails also gets hard and has a really long set time.  The truth is even the adhesives that melt the foam work as long as the adhesive is applied very very thinly.  In many cases, I've worked with the melting because if applied right away and held together, the two panels melt together.  You've got me pretty excited with using foam as a buck mold.  I was taught with wood and always went that route.  Foam is so much easier to get the form sorted.  Up to this point, I had only used it for fiberglass or various casting media.  The one thing with a wood buck is being able to clamp the piece.  I look forward to see you develop your tank and use the bucks as the form gets more complex.

Good to know about he adhesive.

I've used wood bucks, but they're a pain and sometimes take longer to make than the part they're used for. They're also tough because you often can't see where your panel is hitting the buck and needs more work. I learned a different method and only use the buck for reference and pattern making. I know my part is right when it fits the buck without clamping. I also only need 1/2 the buck to do both sides.

You do any metal shaping? And pics?

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Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
« Reply #17 on: Dec 24, 2015, 10:17:17 »
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You do any metal shaping? And pics?
He dabbles.
« Last Edit: Dec 24, 2015, 10:22:20 by DohcBikes »
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Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
« Reply #18 on: Dec 24, 2015, 10:24:22 »

He dabbles.

Somehow I missed that thread.

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Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
« Reply #19 on: Dec 24, 2015, 10:32:07 »
I added a pic above. Pretty much click any thread in deviants sig to find more:
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