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Title: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 06, 2015, 10:24:23
Welp, until yesterday ive never owned a Harley. Dad never owned a Harley. Grandpa never owned a Harley. We have always had jap bikes, even some of the newer retro styled cruisers. I have always kinda wanted a hardtail and when this CL ad came up, it was to good of a deal to pass up. Swapped the guy some cash for the bike and the title. I don't know how important it is, but the engine and frame are matching numbers. I don't know if that even means anything being as the frame has been cut and hardtailed.

The good.
1.) Its a Harley with a title
2.)The engine was supposedly rebuilt with:
Sifton cams and bearings
.020" over with weisco 10:1 pistons
valves ground and reseated and all new gaskets, besides the primary cover, which leaks (imagine that)
3.) It was Cheap
4.) I live in Mid Ohio, the roads are straight. The only turns to be made are from one straight road to another.

The bad.
1.) Its a Harley   ;)
2.) It needs odds and ends like the right size chain, brake light, seat, ect
3.) I am running out of room to turn around in my garage.

Plan for it is to fix it enough to "own a Harley" for a minute and hopefully sell mid spring/early summer for a profit, or trade it for the next thing. I am going to search out a stock length disc brake front end to get rid of that "lean back" look and get the frame a bit more level. Also, juice brakes are good. Losing the 5 foot tall sissy bar too.

If I had to label a look im going for, it will be closer to a bobber than this which I consider a chopper.

Disclamer: I know that hard tails work less well than stock bike. I know that form follows function, but this is a bobber to be, so your point is invalid here. This is not nor will it be a well handling machine as compared to other bikes, but a round town, stop and talk about it bike. I will take constructive criticism, but any remarks about your opinion on hardtails in general being sub-par or non café bikes will be met with this "disclaimer" copy and pasted as a reply.
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Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Ply318ci on Nov 06, 2015, 10:59:53
Cool


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Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Erskine on Nov 06, 2015, 15:25:07
I'm in. Stock height front end, ditch silly bars/sissy bars/silly tank and double your money in one fell swoop.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 06, 2015, 15:59:40
I'm in. Stock height front end, ditch silly bars/sissy bars/silly tank and double your money in one fell swoop.

you pretty much got my exact plan... besides the tank, I kinda like it a bit for some reason...  bars are gone too, cant see in the pic but they are only like a foot and a half wide maybe. I don't see how you can even steer that thing down the road with those bars..
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Erskine on Nov 06, 2015, 16:42:48
I suppose if push comes to shove you could simply shorten those forks and spend the budget elsewhere .
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Nov 06, 2015, 16:54:44
Okay... now were cookin, The tank needs to go back to where ever came from, I thing the CB forks fit with all balls same as my BSA has, get a long tank and make it dead tail cruiser, ride it for grins then decide.


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I know that hard tails work less well than stock bike. I know that form follows function, but this is a bobber to be, so your point is invalid here. This is not nor will it be a well handling machine as compared to other bikes, but a round town, stop and talk about it bike. I will take constructive criticism, but any remarks about your opinion on hardtails in general being sub-par or non café bikes will be met with this "disclaimer" copy and pasted as a reply.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Nov 06, 2015, 19:20:00
Yep.  Proud of ya 
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 06, 2015, 20:56:19
Okay... now were cookin, The tank needs to go back to where ever came from, I thing the CB forks fit with all balls same as my BSA has, get a long tank and make it dead tail cruiser, ride it for grins then decide.
Yep, that's what I'm thinking already. I have a rebuilt set of cb forks sitting here that I keep starting at. I'll probably call all balls Monday.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: irk miller on Nov 06, 2015, 21:33:53
I have drag bars I won at last year's Meltdown.  I will never use those kind of handlebars.  Yours if you want.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 06, 2015, 21:55:58
I have drag bars I won at last year's Meltdown.  I will never use those kind of handlebars.  Yours if you want.
Awesome! I'd be interested for sure! Are they 1"?
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: irk miller on Nov 06, 2015, 22:17:27
Pretty sure they're 7/8"


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Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 07, 2015, 12:56:38
All kinda rough and temporary for now, but I busted out the grinder and removed about 10lbs of sissy bar. It was 1/2" solid round, not tube. Also rigged up some Honda bar risers to get rid of those hideous bars on it before. I see some hope. I just can't wait to get that front end down a bit. I think that will help a bunch. I'm planning on trying to figure out how to get my cb front end mounted on soon.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/07/d817bb7a8f0d5278b05fa06873b63c98.jpg)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: DohcBikes on Nov 07, 2015, 13:49:48
Looks better already. For all the guff i give about harleys I have ridden several and do know what they're all about. That ones gonna be a trip to ride and with your skills I am looking forward to the final product. Shit you might even get hooked on em. The money is better as far as flipping, as long as you wait for a deal like the one you got.

P.S. with a twin shock swingarm and the right frontend that could be a pretty damn good handling bike. Just sayin.

P.P.S., i see some indian larry influence...never a bad route for a stripped down ironhead. Except, I'd keep the front brake.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Nov 07, 2015, 13:58:16
Use a GL1000 front fender to replace that trailer fender out back.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 07, 2015, 15:48:05
Yep, growing up watching biker build offs with Indian Larry  (who usually built Harleys). I can dig em.

More than likely getting a cb front end/disc.

Justin, you got an extra?
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: ridesolo on Nov 07, 2015, 16:30:49
Your sawzall is getting a workout already!  There's a set of drag bars out in the shop w/ your name on 'em... no postage that way.  Looks good and has lots of potential. 
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Nov 07, 2015, 16:38:32
Unfortunately, I do not. They are readily available and on the cheap from eBay. I  used one on a 360 chopper a handful of years ago.

A terrible pic, but it gives you an idea of the shape 
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/wetherbe/6903bec4.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/wetherbe/media/6903bec4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 07, 2015, 18:01:44
Nice Justin. I can dig the "wrap around" look
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Erskine on Nov 07, 2015, 20:57:48
This is going to look great once it's head is out of the clouds.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: BurdetteDR on Nov 07, 2015, 21:32:49
I've got 2 front ends laying around. Ones from a 75 cb550f, the other is from a 75 cb750k
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Nov 07, 2015, 21:38:05
Nice Justin. I can dig the "wrap around" look

Yep. Wrap around. Ribbed. And a duck tail.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 07, 2015, 22:36:53
Yep. Wrap around. Ribbed. And a duck tail.
Sounds like a greasers hair do
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Nov 07, 2015, 22:59:13
Sounds like a greasers hair do

You know the honda front fender makes a perfect rear fender for the deadtail, mine has a set of holes in the laser cut pattern above the axle for a fender.

I'm always leaving pics of my bikes in other folks threads so he i go again: note honda fender with stock hoop mount, bolted right on.

(http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=66285.0;attach=157593;image)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Ryan Stecken on Nov 07, 2015, 23:04:41
Hell yeah.what a plan.count me in man.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 07, 2015, 23:13:40
You know the honda front fender makes a perfect rear fender for the deadtail, mine has a set of holes in the laser cut pattern above the axle for a fender.

I'm always leaving pics of my bikes in other folks threads so he i go again: note honda fender with stock hoop mount, bolted right on.

(http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=66285.0;attach=157593;image)
You know what's funny, I JUST searched for your bsa thread just to find that particular picture
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 12, 2015, 22:01:27
Just a mockup so far, but the shorter cb550 front end is a 100% better look than before. Pretty excited to have some disc brakes too. I have to open up the bearing cups a bit to accept the stem, but a bit of time with the lathe and the all balls tapered neck bearings will fall right in. I'll have to figure out a steering stop too. I'm personally liking where this is going much more.

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/a84876e003e49a40ce3d27768c66b96c.jpg)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/12/b00a9a106e3fa59addb3cb0e03ef1d77.jpg)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 12, 2015, 22:15:36
Oh, and also, now I'm pretty sure the tank has got to go....
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: irk miller on Nov 12, 2015, 22:27:31
Ya think?  :P
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Nov 12, 2015, 22:28:27
Oh, and also, now I'm pretty sure the tank has got to go....

Think outside of the box... The Kawasaki tank I started with is being painted as an option, so the BSA comes with a wardrobe haha!
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: ridesolo on Nov 12, 2015, 22:44:48
Oh, and also, now I'm pretty sure the tank has got to go.... 

Tank?  What tank?  Oh, you mean that funny little blue lump on there?  Yeah, gotta go.  Got a replacement in mind?  (You're probably missing that 500T extra you had...)  Too bad I cut up that GSX100G beauty I had I would have donated it!   ;D 
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Erskine on Nov 14, 2015, 17:58:15
Oh, and also, now I'm pretty sure the tank has got to go....

Hallelujah :)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Nov 14, 2015, 18:26:43


I just gota say Erskine... if I were a cartoon id be sniffin around your pound... HAHAHA!
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Nov 14, 2015, 18:28:20
Yah know Kurc... we need to waddle up on these cruisers at the thaw!
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 14, 2015, 18:35:21
Yah know Kurc... we need to waddle up on these cruisers at the thaw!
Where is the thaw? I have heard about it, but don't know where it be

Maybe ridesolo could join on his wicked little 360
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Nov 14, 2015, 18:38:31
Where is the thaw? I have heard about it, but don't know where it be

Maybe ridesolo could join on his wicked little 360

We need a misfit camp... with beer... lots of beer... oh and Bloody Mary's for breakfast!!
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: WhyNot on Nov 14, 2015, 21:07:00
We need a misfit camp... with beer... lots of beer... oh and Bloody Mary's for breakfast!!


beer...uuuummmmmm.....beer..........lemon-ritas too for breakfast.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: VonYinzer on Nov 14, 2015, 21:48:52
How am I just seeing this?

I have a mint Sporty tank (needs a petcock and cap) I could give ya on the real cheap.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 14, 2015, 21:54:59
How am I just seeing this?

I have a mint Sporty tank (needs a petcock and cap) I could give ya on the real cheap.
Dang that would be sweet man. Mind shooting me some pics?
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: VonYinzer on Nov 14, 2015, 21:57:00
Incoming
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: o1marc on Nov 14, 2015, 23:10:03
Just curious about all the double your money talk and what a good deal it was when you never mentioned what you paid for it? ;D
As far as how do you turn one with those long forks. Most street riding you turn the forks less than 5*, it's not like your going road racing with one of those, lean it and it turns. A stock Sportster tank would look 100% better than that "ugly lump" as someone described it. All Balls doesn't have a bearing to fit your stem and bearing cups?
Your disclaimer is usually an instant magnet for criticism, as though anyone heeds though disclaimers. ::)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 15, 2015, 21:44:44


Just curious about all the double your money talk and what a good deal it was when you never mentioned what you paid for it? ;D
As far as how do you turn one with those long forks. Most street riding you turn the forks less than 5*, it's not like your going road racing with one of those, lean it and it turns. A stock Sportster tank would look 100% better than that "ugly lump" as someone described it. All Balls doesn't have a bearing to fit your stem and bearing cups?
Your disclaimer is usually an instant magnet for criticism, as though anyone heeds though disclaimers. ::)

Yep, price wasn't posted in this thread, but other places on the forum. Bought it for $1300.

I don't know if all balls makes cups for it, but someone has already put tapered bearing cups on it for the HD front end. The pressed in races are the same as the ones I have for my Honda front end, so short of opening the through hole up a bit to clear the Honda stem, they are all good. I know my way around a machine shop well, so that isn't an issue.

I wasn't saying that it would be impossible to ride with that extended front end, I just don't want to. I've spent many a mile (about 10k a year) on a bike, I'm well aware that you don't do a full lock turn while riding.

The disclaimer was a bit of sarcasm mixed with truth. I understand that a hardtail is not a mod to better a bikes handling. It's purely for looks, especially in the case of a suspended bike being made a hardtail. This bike will serve the purpose of being what some would categorize as a bar hopper, though I personally don't drink and ride. Some people don't get it, and that's OK, they don't have to buy or build one. I merely said that to say that I ALREADY KNOW that they are a downgrade in handling and rideability, and on this bike, that's entirely OK with me
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 16, 2015, 21:27:13
Thanks Justin, you contribution is appreciated =)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/16/b68f06f3a629331213453e3abeae8646.jpg)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: ridesolo on Nov 16, 2015, 22:09:51
I like it!
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Nov 16, 2015, 22:19:06
Will that work for you?
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 16, 2015, 22:19:56
A little bracket modification and she will be a dandy!
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: irk miller on Nov 16, 2015, 22:20:49
He only gave that to you because he expects it to return to him with the rest of the bike.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Nov 16, 2015, 22:21:38
Good. I even left some Maryland dirt on it, just for good luck.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 16, 2015, 22:26:45
He only gave that to you because he expects it to return to him with the rest of the bike.
Lol I was thinking about that.

Good. I even left some Maryland dirt on it, just for good luck.

I plan on leaving it there too man
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 16, 2015, 22:29:52
Got a sporty tank on the way from ol von. This will be a dtt mod podge by the time it's done. It's nice to have a great group of guys like ya'll that are willing to help a guy out.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: ridesolo on Nov 16, 2015, 22:37:04
Got a sporty tank on the way from ol von. This will be a dtt mod podge by the time it's done. It's nice to have a great group of guys like ya'll that are willing to help a guy out. 

I think I know a guy who'll send you a set of Firestone tires for it!
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 16, 2015, 22:37:57
Haha if they weren't so expensive, that's what I'd run
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Nov 16, 2015, 23:08:25
Find some of these vintage Goodyears Mine is as new and soft

Stock sporty tire back in the day?:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/360662186175?ul_noapp=true&chn=ps&lpid=82
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 16, 2015, 23:14:25
Yep, those are slick man
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 17, 2015, 16:27:39
Hmm maybe ill build a springer front end. I mean heck, im a certified welder and a machinist/ tool and die maker. I would guess people who made them back in the day/ now were also welders and tool and die makers. I have read through this a few times, and seems to have some pretty good useful info.

http://www.chopperhandbook.com/springbuild.htm
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: DohcBikes on Nov 17, 2015, 16:42:47
Hmm maybe ill build a springer front end. I mean heck, im a certified welder and a machinist/ tool and die maker. I would guess people who made them back in the day/ now were also welders and tool and die makers. I have read through this a few times, and seems to have some pretty good useful info.

http://www.chopperhandbook.com/springbuild.htm
That's a lot of sweat equity into a bike that was gonna be a flipper. Pay yourself at least $35 an hour for your fab time and you'll be surprised what you'd have to sell it for to recoup that. And, regardless of being a welder, the frontend might not end up performing well at all. All the math in the world and sometimes it STILL doesnt work the first time you try it, and unless you plan on going into production the"i did it to learn and get better at it" doesnt really make much sense either.

Neat idea though.

Not a debbie downer just the voice of reason. All are welcome to insult my opinion and make it personal as usual.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: DohcBikes on Nov 17, 2015, 16:49:52
^^I do however think a springer would fit this build perfectly. It would just make a lot more sense to find a nice used one, they really arent that hard to find. I bet tune knows where a few are.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Nov 17, 2015, 17:04:31
Yeah, get one long (cheap because..) you have the skills to chorten (yes with a c) it and have it exactly hows you want it.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: canyoncarver on Nov 17, 2015, 17:12:38
Hmm maybe ill build a springer front end. I mean heck, im a certified welder and a machinist/ tool and die maker. I would guess people who made them back in the day/ now were also welders and tool and die makers. I have read through this a few times, and seems to have some pretty good useful info.

http://www.chopperhandbook.com/springbuild.htm (http://www.chopperhandbook.com/springbuild.htm)

I like where this is going.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Erskine on Nov 17, 2015, 18:10:29
How about a girder front end?
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: ridesolo on Nov 17, 2015, 20:16:53
A springer or girder would be pretty cool for the thing.  Of course you could go to the other side of the coin, go completely weird, be a trend setter, and go USD on the thing.  That would leave 'em scratching their heads for sure.  Seriously, I guess the decision is assisted by whether it's a keeper or a flipper.  Of course it also occurs to me that it depends on your target buyer, would the prospective buyer of this bike consider buying a Harley w/ rice bike parts on it?  Maybe some would, others would buy it and then turn around and rebuild it again.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Nov 17, 2015, 20:25:49
A Ducati USD with single disk Brembo would be cool. ::)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: ridesolo on Nov 17, 2015, 20:34:11
A Ducati USD with single disk Brembo would be cool. ::) 

Tune-A has a point.  A potential used Harley buyer might shun an Ironhead w/ Jap parts but who could turn down sexy Italian parts?   ;D
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: ridesolo on Nov 17, 2015, 20:43:41
Hey, speaking of Jap parts... wouldn't that Ninja 1000 rear wheel you have fit into that frame?  Hmmm, you've still got those forks, too.  They are, at least the right scale for it, that would be quite a set-up.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: VonYinzer on Nov 17, 2015, 21:11:07
Just my 2c but you have a pretty sharp traditional chop in your hands. You COULD go goofy and start throwing sportbike parts at it, but why? It's been done, is being done, etc. Nothing new there.

If you do plan on selling, adding that stuff will cut your price in half. The only folks who can get away with that kind of stuff and MAKE money are well known builders.

Again, just my opinion.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Nov 17, 2015, 21:30:29
That has a lot of validity, especially if marketing consists of Craigslist  ;)

That said the bike was hideous... before.

These are cool kids and the sporty... well it's "rad".

Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: canyoncarver on Nov 17, 2015, 22:07:52
Yeah, traditional would be the way I'd go with it.  Your idea of building a springer was something to consider.  I hope you keep it around awhile. 
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Nov 18, 2015, 07:26:50
Definitely, keep it traditional.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 18, 2015, 11:20:10
mmmmm yeah I like the traditional look myself =)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/18/eaa59bb7051e0a589a974ba22fdbc346.jpg)

That said, I have thought about the duc suspension several times, but that may be for the next one. I don't want a "cookie cutter" bike, but I don't think im gonna stray to far outta the box on this one.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Nov 18, 2015, 12:06:10
mmmmm yeah I like the traditional look myself =)

That looks like a Harley Sprint tank with mounting flanges modified to mount with bolts and dampers, I used one for the Modified just a differnt model.

If you can score one as sweet as this... you just saved on paint and or patina... If you find two... ones mine 8)

(http://www.retrocycle.com/ebaypics/IMG_2151.JPG)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 18, 2015, 12:40:34
I know where one Is at. Still has a motorcycle attached to it though
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Rider52 on Nov 22, 2015, 23:05:33
That's a Superglide or an 80's XLS Roadster tank on the blue bike. I'm betting XLS since the hardtail has the kink at the seat mount like most of the 79-81 hardtails.  A little larger then a Sprint tank, about the same lines. Either would look good. I used a Superglide tank on a previous build and got a lot of complements and a couple of magazine pages out of it. I've got a 79 XLS partly restored and just picked up a 73 basket case that I want to get back on the road.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Nov 22, 2015, 23:10:56
?? seems like deal time if you guys can use them. https://memphis.craigslist.org/mpo/5251317638.html

$250, been her a ling while

(http://images.craigslist.org/00505_2hEvNtS5zPZ_600x450.jpg)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Rider52 on Nov 22, 2015, 23:25:41
I can probably use them, but I need new cases first, the transmission on the 73 exited unexpectedly. Horn Lake, MS, I lost a trailer on I-55 there in 1981. I also saw the largest eastern diamondback rattlesnake I've ever seen when I went check on the trailer.   
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 24, 2015, 14:12:57
hmm I like this style.... and its simple!

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o35/boaski/2009%20Goodguys%20Car%20Show/Misc023.jpg) (http://s116.photobucket.com/user/boaski/media/2009%20Goodguys%20Car%20Show/Misc023.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Nov 24, 2015, 14:22:36
That's a sketchy front end, right there.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: DohcBikes on Nov 24, 2015, 14:23:56
hmm I like this style.... and its simple!

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o35/boaski/2009%20Goodguys%20Car%20Show/Misc023.jpg) (http://s116.photobucket.com/user/boaski/media/2009%20Goodguys%20Car%20Show/Misc023.jpg.html)
Again this magnetizes the blade that cuts between a keeper and a flipper. Anything but traditional will likely reduce the interest and in turn, the resale value. Obviously there's the 'unique' selling point but more often than not, it just doesn't work that way.

Cool setup. I would think the standouts holding those springs would need to be mighty strong to pass the test of time. Is that a proven design? I am not familiar with it.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 24, 2015, 14:24:35
That's a sketchy front end, right there.

heck, its gonna be yours someday so sketchy it may be lol
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 24, 2015, 14:30:42
Again this magnetizes the blade that cuts between a keeper and a flipper. Anything but traditional will likely reduce the interest and in turn, the resale value. Obviously there's the 'unique' selling point but more often than not, it just doesn't work that way.

Cool setup. I would think the standouts holding those springs would need to be mighty strong to pass the test of time. Is that a proven design? I am not familiar with it.

I know I know lol. I just like unique stuff. I know what you said about "pay yourself 35 an hour for the time" and I get that, BUT I work on bikes as a hobby. I fabricate as a hobby. I do it for fun and not always to get a huge return. That's just me lol

I had never seen this design before I saw it on this bike at Goodguys Car show in C-bus back in 09. Never seen one like it since. I know its a "show bike". That may seriously mean that this front end style is only good for going from the trailer to the parking spot.

I just though it was neat and worth looking at. I think there would need to be a brace between the two spring rods to keep the thing from twisting really bad, and those perches would need to be super beefy.

Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 24, 2015, 14:34:50
here is the whole bike

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o35/boaski/2009%20Goodguys%20Car%20Show/Misc024.jpg) (http://s116.photobucket.com/user/boaski/media/2009%20Goodguys%20Car%20Show/Misc024.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: irk miller on Nov 24, 2015, 14:47:47
heck, its gonna be yours someday so sketchy it may be lol
He likes sketchy.  Ask me how I know. 
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 24, 2015, 21:00:40
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/24/c0e88cc7b005f15ed1acf89e0ee5e512.jpg)

Gotta relocate the coils, but this tank will be much better.

Thanks Mike.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: ridesolo on Nov 24, 2015, 21:48:48
Yup, certainly looking better. 
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: VonYinzer on Nov 24, 2015, 21:54:12
Anytime fella. Looks better on the bike than it did hanging in my closet of misfit toys.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Erskine on Nov 25, 2015, 04:36:08
Looking much nicer with Yins tank on it.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Nov 25, 2015, 10:37:52
Raise the front of that tank a bit, and you're Golden.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: DohcBikes on Nov 25, 2015, 10:40:02
I agree with justin
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Nov 25, 2015, 10:49:14
Gonna be honest Hurcster... Im not diggin the easy way out on the tank man... Sporty left the room when you wend DeadTail.

Sorry! :-[
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: DohcBikes on Nov 25, 2015, 10:51:38
I also agree with Tune
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 25, 2015, 11:15:13
Hmmm, figured that one was coming haha nothing is set in stone, but it's an upgrades either way
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Nov 25, 2015, 11:20:59
Hmmm, figured that one was coming haha nothing is set in stone, but it's an upgrades either way

Youth. Go look at early 60's cars Oldsmobile, Cadillac, Buick and Lincoln think like you need to get too the moon man!

(http://s.hswstatic.com/gif/1950s-and-1960s-edsel-concept-cars-1.jpg)

 
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: DohcBikes on Nov 25, 2015, 11:40:57
I just like unique stuff. I know what you said about "pay yourself 35 an hour for the time" and I get that, BUT I work on bikes as a hobby. I fabricate as a hobby. I do it for fun and not always to get a huge return. That's just me lol

Gas tanks are not impervious to this statement, are they?
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 25, 2015, 12:01:41
Gas tanks are not impervious to this statement, are they?
Ha, yep. Not a sheet metal fabricator, but I guess I could try
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 27, 2015, 01:43:02
Got a little turkey day garage time in tonight. I wanna build a springer front end for the bike, but some of ya'lls "voice of reason" has maybe been getting through a bit. Either way, I was looking and measuring and thinking. I procured a 71 (i think) cb350 front wheel recently (thanks cory) I like the mechanical look of the outside levers on the dual leading shoe front drum. I thought maybe i could make it work with the stock hardly forks.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/26/ddb2e37bc9b9eebfdf4c255c968d8ce3.jpg)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/26/88ad105800a8d8ced5e898ddc77493b4.jpg)

Not quite, they are just a bit to narrow at the axle clamps to fit the stock axle from the cb350 hub, so i started taking apart the fork tubes. Thats oil on the celing of my garage from taking tubes apart and sqeezing the last bit of oil outta the tubes haha
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/26/d79916615a63c8df874598282761a222.jpg)

I couldnt get the dang bolt out of the bottom, as it just kept spinning the slider inside, i ended up having to ratchet strap the dang fork leg to get enough force on the spring to hold it tight from spinning when trying to loosen it up, but got er eventually
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/26/8eb366366180477413ff6318584c1440.jpg)

I had the cb550 front end on the bike (kinda) and realised that they both have 35mm fork tubes. The things that make you go hmm. So, looking at the lowers on the 550, i realized that there was an offset that may be enough to clear the stock 350 axle. I decided to try to put the 550 lowers on the harley tubes. After taking them apart, they were eerily similar inside. Harley tube on top, cb tube on bottom
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/26/b52d46de3ac7b3da09f50775fabb323f.jpg)

With them assebled, there is about a 1/8" gap on each side. Nothing i cant remedy with some time on the old south bend
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/26/2fedc0bfb319e1cf7aee8a74b6acde6a.jpg)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/26/03e55e8200ab35691df41f210be604c8.jpg)

Got the front end back on. I like how this makes many things much more simple. I am planning on lacing up the rear rim to the front hub. They are both 18", but the rear rim is wider by about 3/4". I will internally lower the front end a little bit more, but this option would keep me from having to machine new triples and also allow me to run a front drum. Nothing like a true Honda/Harley bastard compilation =)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/26/936343e5f25d4d57bed33fec67796061.jpg)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Erskine on Nov 27, 2015, 06:44:46
Feeling the jealousy for that 2LS hub!
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: ridesolo on Nov 27, 2015, 07:41:17
Got a little turkey day garage time in tonight. I wanna build a springer front end for the bike, but some of ya'lls "voice of reason" has maybe been getting through a bit. Either way, I was looking and measuring and thinking. I procured a 71 (i think) cb350 front wheel recently (thanks cory) I like the mechanical look of the outside levers on the dual leading shoe front drum. I thought maybe i could make it work with the stock hardly forks. 

I am amazed at the similarities you are running into.  Just in case you have to get parts, that CB350 is (was?) a '72.  Agree w/ you, the mechanical look of the drum brake is nice. 
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: VonYinzer on Nov 27, 2015, 10:16:29
Feeling the jealousy for that 2LS hub!

Isn't that drum just a cb350 unit? If so, I think I have one you can have for shipping.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 27, 2015, 10:20:15
Isn't that drum just a cb350 unit? If so, I think I have one you can have for shipping.
The one I have is. Hook ol ernskie up
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Erskine on Nov 27, 2015, 15:17:10
The one I have is. Hook ol ernskie up
Wonder what it would cost to the UK? Not so many over here any more :(
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Rider52 on Nov 27, 2015, 15:33:46
Both forks are made by Showa, but I had no idea they were that close. Nice job on making do with what you have. I personally feel any Honda twin leading shoe brake is superior to the first generation of Harley disk brakes. When I build up the 73 basket, I planned on using a Honda CL77 305 scrambler front wheel. I was thinking I would need a new axle. Now I'll just zap on a spare set of Honda 750 lowers and use a Honda axle. Thanks for doing the R&D!!!! 
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: VonYinzer on Nov 27, 2015, 16:41:56
Wonder what it would cost to the UK? Not so many over here any more :(

Probably about  $40. Shoot me a PM if you want me to dig around for it so we don't clog up the thread any more.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 27, 2015, 23:58:05
Both forks are made by Showa, but I had no idea they were that close. Nice job on making do with what you have. I personally feel any Honda twin leading shoe brake is superior to the first generation of Harley disk brakes. When I build up the 73 basket, I planned on using a Honda CL77 305 scrambler front wheel. I was thinking I would need a new axle. Now I'll just zap on a spare set of Honda 750 lowers and use a Honda axle. Thanks for doing the R&D!!!!

I figured there had to be some family blood after looking at them. I used pretty much all the guts outta the harley. Springs and tube i.d. are smaller diameter than the honda lashup. I am sure i am not the first to do this, and truth be told i wouldnt have bought all these parts to do this, i just had em around and it all worked out. I like to document this stuff for that very reason. I searched the interwebs and didnt find anything, but now maybe the next guy will. I may have to do some shortening or make some spacers for the damper rod as they are a few inches longer than the honda ones and the cb ones wont fit down in the harley tubes.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 27, 2015, 23:59:38
Got the hoops de-laced. Even with as grungy as everything was, all the nipples broke loose without to much drama
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/27/fef2568ea0baf35946867255a5ba6221.jpg)

Lost of crustified grease and grime, but nothing was seized up, broke or overly worn.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/27/fcacee02f70e65a267af9047c20a827c.jpg)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/27/de94ff487aaacc1d4a533908cf9d7870.jpg)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/27/e97bf03499d1c73b976ef85893925b0d.jpg)

Got a couple layers of crud busted loose. It all cleaned up well. I have s.s. spokes on the way. Even the chrome on the levers is "good enough" to use for this project. I may powder coat the rims or just spring for a black aluminum mikes xs... but looking like powdercoat at this point.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/27/de4107ed202b27b6c2a90e3808634746.jpg)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: ridesolo on Nov 28, 2015, 07:42:46
Got the hoops de-laced. Even with as grungy as everything was, all the nipples broke loose without to much drama  Lost of crustified grease and grime, but nothing was seized up, broke or overly worn.  Got a couple layers of crud busted loose. It all cleaned up well. I have s.s. spokes on the way. Even the chrome on the levers is "good enough" to use for this project. I may powder coat the rims or just spring for a black aluminum mikes xs... but looking like powdercoat at this point.

Glad to see that ol' girl is staying true to form!  Since it sat in a barn for 40 years or so, when I started pulling it apart I thought pieces were going to come off reluctantly.  Instead, other than being extremely dirty, everything was pretty easy and in excellent condition, especially with the number of miles it had.   Excellent job of using what's on hand to git r done.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Nov 30, 2015, 14:02:19
There was just one bolt that was being stubborn. It's the retainer for the speedo drive. It honestly was messed up (looks like a long time ago) before I got it. Though I did make it worse haha
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/30/bbf819c574210eae260dbf6dd4f0897a.jpg)

So I did a little tig buildup
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/30/0829876f8af36504f12c29fb5bf40c2f.jpg)

Very little effort with some pliers and she was out
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/30/8e556435ac1c0b57b2228ab12419d5fb.jpg)

Just a little cleanup to fix some discoloration and she is good as new
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11/30/e5881639b9af14d5b814979169ab59d4.jpg)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 02, 2015, 18:30:05
Used a local powder coat place for my front hoop. Pretty disappointed to say the least. I could have gotten a better finish out of a $2 can of spray paint. It's orange peeled something horrible and has little sharp spike looking things coming out all over. He quoted me $50 and only charged me $40 at least. I don't ask people to work for free, but I really don't think I should have been charged for this job.

Can I wet sand some of this out, or is it just a lost cause at this point? I de-greased the wheels before I sand blasted the rim well and de-greased it again before dropping it off.

These pics don't do it justice. Should I just cut my losses and get a new rim or try to fix this powder?

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/02/0fbe88a78be387ff7b9d7c9074b35816.jpg)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/02/fae4c56ed535f328e5eee6c1e99f4e99.jpg)

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/02/87d8548e68e983c3ad1ac7e6375c7078.jpg)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Erskine on Dec 02, 2015, 18:47:49
That's appalling work! I would open a can of whoop ass on him. Jeez.
Really that isn't acceptable at all.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: irk miller on Dec 02, 2015, 18:53:53
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t98/bzamaher/dog107.jpg)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Dec 02, 2015, 19:13:04

Can I wet sand some of this out, or is it just a lost cause at this point? I de-greased the wheels before I sand blasted the rim well and de-greased it again before dropping it off.

These pics don't do it justice. Should I just cut my losses and get a new rim or try to fix this powder?

You can sand and buff it mang, but I would just blow it off again and buy some appliance epoxy, prime it with zinc and shoot it as many times as you want to get that real powder gloss. I have been using it and it works great, even in a floor board it's held up with no wear.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 02, 2015, 19:51:02
That's appalling work! I would open a can of whoop ass on him. Jeez.
Really that isn't acceptable at all.
Yeah pretty much. He was kinda giving me the "it is was it is" run around and I was just doing all I could to not lose my cool in there.

I am doing a bit of wet sanding. It's bad that my first pass with 320 makes them way better than they were. It's almost a textured finish.

Lesson learned, I won't be using them anymore for anything. The more I sand, the madder I get.
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t98/bzamaher/dog107.jpg)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 02, 2015, 20:12:00
You can sand and buff it mang, but I would just blow it off again and buy some appliance epoxy, prime it with zinc and shoot it as many times as you want to get that real powder gloss. I have been using it and it works great, even in a floor board it's held up with no wear.
If I can get it descent wet sanding it I'll try. I'd hate to think how long it would take to blast it off. He said he put 5 layers on to try to "fix" it. It shows, looks like he put 5 layers of asphalt tar on it.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: canyoncarver on Dec 02, 2015, 21:10:33
Hmmm, 5 layers.....need to be blasted off..
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: DohcBikes on Dec 02, 2015, 21:20:38
Not only would I not pay I would be sending him a bill.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 02, 2015, 21:38:23
Will being 5 coats make it Crack? I'm a few hours into wet sanding now and it's coming out pretty decent. Still not happy about it, I just don't feel like trying to blast all that off. I've heard it's a real bear to get back off
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: ridesolo on Dec 02, 2015, 21:54:11
Man, buddy, that sux!  Let me know who that is so I won't be tempted to go there!
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 02, 2015, 22:11:41
Man, buddy, that sux!  Let me know who that is so I won't be tempted to go there!
Yeah, such is life. It's racecraft on rt.4 just south of Marion. They won't be getting any more of my business, and I wouldn't recommend them getting any of yours.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: ridesolo on Dec 03, 2015, 10:58:28
Yeah, such is life. It's racecraft on rt.4 just south of Marion. They won't be getting any more of my business, and I wouldn't recommend them getting any of yours. 

Hear ya.  I have used the place over in Mansfield out near the airport.  In the past they've been good, fast, and not terrible expensive.  When I worked for PECO II in Galion we had a coating plant right there in the building and the guys could/would throw stuff into their batches for me for the cost of materials.  The biggest problem w/ that was that it was a little like buying a Model T; you can get any color you want... as long as it's black.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 06, 2015, 22:41:17
Lots of sanding later, it's too the point of being usable. Still not perfect, but I guess this isn't going to be a show bike.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/06/6f3cb942b5c9ae1567b1bdfb20efb21c.jpg)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Dec 06, 2015, 22:44:16
Lots of sanding later, it's too the point of being usable. Still not perfect, but I guess this isn't going to be a show bike.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/06/6f3cb942b5c9ae1567b1bdfb20efb21c.jpg)

You my friend are a better man than me... I would of made them buy me a replacement :o
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 09, 2015, 20:42:49
You my friend are a better man than me... I would of made them buy me a replacement :o

I still may make him. im not super happy with it even after sanding, but I may have screwed myself by paying him in the first place
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Dec 09, 2015, 20:48:07
Meh, live and learn... dude knows we all do. what rim isit? maybe we can come up with a clean one to hit with epoxy  8)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 09, 2015, 20:56:04
Meh, live and learn... dude knows we all do. what rim isit? maybe we can come up with a clean one to hit with epoxy  8)

yeah, and not to sound like billy bad butt, but I have a pretty much on/off temper, and the switch was about to be flipped, so it was just time to get outta there before it became way to big of a deal over a bad powder job on an old m/c rim.

Its just a stock rear cb350 18" rim. I know they have some kind of denotation (wm3) or something like that. I may just try to lightly ruff it up with the blaster and shoot epoxy over it. Also mikes xs sells a black shouldered aluminum 36 spoke rim for around a bill, but I don't think I want a shouldered aluminum rim on the front of the hardly...
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Dec 09, 2015, 21:00:07
nahh... that hoop is Honda ain't it 40 hole?
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 09, 2015, 21:01:38
sure is a Honda.. but its a 36 holer. Some of the smaller displacement bikes ran 36 spoke rims from what I understand
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Dec 09, 2015, 21:08:35
nevermind, but heres a bin with a fresh tire for a Ben

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-CB350-Twin-Rear-Wheel-18-Sprocket-Good-Tire-1973-/231764847582?hash=item35f642ebde:g:4JIAAOSw8-tWVg55&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 09, 2015, 21:12:00
not a bad price, anddd free shipping. looks pretty clean too. I have a few local bike salvage yards I may hit up first though. I take any excuse I can get to go walk around those =)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Dec 09, 2015, 21:32:37
I have a few local bike salvage yards I may hit up first though. I take any excuse I can get to go walk around those =)

I'm not allowed to go to the yards.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 09, 2015, 22:53:48
Ha, my privileges haven't been revoked.... yet.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: ridesolo on Dec 10, 2015, 08:32:32
Hey, I still have that CL360 rear wheel here that was a good rim on it.  If you want it you can have it... but you'll have to get it today or tomorrow or wait till March.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Dec 10, 2015, 08:37:14
jus drive by and toss it in his yard on yer way out of town ;D

Mr welder, you could make a five spoke pinwheel with rim, some used spokes and some scrap rod welded to a chunk of tube. set it up on a couple notched 2X's like a balancer so you can paint the wheel nice and even with and of it gets the runs just keep it turning slow to flow it out.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: ridesolo on Dec 10, 2015, 08:53:28
jus drive by and toss it in his yard on yer way out of town ;D 

Good idea... wonder if he'd be mad if he came out and found a MC wheel embedded in the back window of his car?   ;D 
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 10, 2015, 14:27:56
Ridesolo saves the day again. Didn't hit the back window of my car though haha.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/10/482db7a6cb5bdd216bd27ab5ce0aebb0.jpg)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Dec 10, 2015, 15:22:36
Ridesolo saves the day again. Didn't hit the back window of my car though haha.

Izzat 2 daily papers by the hedge  ::)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: DohcBikes on Dec 10, 2015, 15:29:03

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/10/482db7a6cb5bdd216bd27ab5ce0aebb0.jpg)
Getting this one powdercoated?

May i suggest Racecraft, on Rt.4, just south of Marion? ;D ;D







...Too soon?
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 10, 2015, 15:34:56
Izzat 2 daily papers by the hedge  ::)
Probably at least two. They decompose in a few years. Well the plastic may take a few hundred..
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 10, 2015, 15:35:32
Getting this one powdercoated?

May i suggest Racecraft, on Rt.4, just south of Marion? ;D ;D







...Too soon?
Yep, dropping it off this afternoon.... through the front widow ha
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 12, 2015, 23:13:21
Quick mockup with a half re laced wheels (still waiting on my stainless spokes). I was thinking about painting the hub and brake black, but after seeing this, I think I'll leave it aluminum finish. Thoughts?
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Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Erskine on Dec 13, 2015, 09:22:11
It will look more classic in aluminium. Personally I'd leave as it, but it depends on the look you are going for I suppose.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Dec 13, 2015, 09:35:23
Paint it Gold suckuh  ;D  Or just bead blast it and leave it ally
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 14, 2015, 21:36:09
Got me some s.s. spokes. Gotta go visit the in-laws for a few weeks in Georgia for the holidays, so I'm going to try to get the hub cleaned up so I can keep myself busy for a few hours down there lacing up the wheel =)
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Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 17, 2015, 23:45:45
Made a new coil mount to clear up room for the tank, whichever one I use. Kinda still digging the sporty tank even if it's not popular with everyone.
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Thinking about making a new top clamp so I can run my cb550 tubes. They are about 3" shorter than the Harley tubes (which are 2" over stock). A bird in the hand. . .
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Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Dec 18, 2015, 07:50:11
Keep up the good work, man. I appreciate all of the effort you are putting into my new bike.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 18, 2015, 13:46:40
No problem jussy. Got your top triple drawn up in cad at lunch.

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Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 18, 2015, 17:08:41
And got template cut on the water jet to see if my measuring was right. Looks good.

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Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Dec 18, 2015, 17:17:00
You fucking tool guys are a bunch of tools... Fuckers >:(
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 18, 2015, 17:29:16
Thanks tune. No one has ever complimented me like that before haha
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Dec 18, 2015, 17:54:53
Thanks tune. No one has ever complimented me like that before haha

I need to take a tool and die class for gray beards... with gray machines not CNC.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 18, 2015, 18:06:46
As a machinist of any kind, cnc included, you really NEED a good foundation in manual machining
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Dec 18, 2015, 18:20:27
As a machinist of any kind, cnc included, you really NEED a good foundation in manual machining

I just want to make spacers and a weed pipe or 100 for my brother in Colorado to sell on his lunch break haha!
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: irk miller on Dec 18, 2015, 21:35:45
As a machinist of any kind, cnc included, you really NEED a good foundation in manual machining
Bah, c'mon! That's not very 21st century of you.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 18, 2015, 22:22:22
Haha I just call it like I see it. You can program all the stuff you want, but if you don't know feeds, surface speeds or how to square up a block, it's all for not
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Erskine on Dec 19, 2015, 16:49:59
You fucking tool guys are a bunch of tools... Fuckers >:(

Ditto
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 20, 2015, 20:20:50
I make up for my lack is skill with CNC equipment
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 28, 2015, 02:58:00
Some of ya'll will hate this, and some may think it's cool. I tend to lean towards the ladder. Anyhow, just bought my "paint job" fir the tank...

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Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Dec 28, 2015, 08:20:20
I can dig it. just get the DC away from Wonder Woman plz.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Dec 28, 2015, 08:36:28
Ditch the Yankees sticker and you're golden.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: VonYinzer on Dec 28, 2015, 10:09:11
Did that on a seat awhile back. Take your time w layout and it'll be rad.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 28, 2015, 11:08:01
Haha, yeah, there are a few of em that won't make the bike. That's why I bought 3 different sets of 100. Gotta be able to ride this to church on Sunday morning lol
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 28, 2015, 13:00:48
Did that on a seat awhile back. Take your time w layout and it'll be rad.
I think I may have seen that a while back. Like a few years and have been wanting to do a bike tin set since. You got a pic still?
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: irk miller on Dec 28, 2015, 15:39:41
For the record, if you show up to Meltdown with this bike and that Yankees sticker, there is a very good chance it could get pee'd on.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 28, 2015, 15:43:45
Lol doubt this one will be at the meltdown, nor that the Yankees sticker will be on it haha never been a baseball fan anyhow
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: ridesolo on Dec 28, 2015, 16:52:11
Lol doubt this one will be at the meltdown, nor that the Yankees sticker will be on it haha never been a baseball fan anyhow

You should at least find a Mudhens sticker!   ;D    And of course, don't forget to give ol' Ichiban a place of honor. 
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 28, 2015, 16:54:21
Ha, is it bad that I had to Google mudhens? And yeah, I'm gonna have to buy a few more from Mr green zip tie himself
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: canyoncarver on Dec 28, 2015, 16:56:39
I can dig it. just get the DC away from Wonder Woman plz.

???  Wonder Woman is from the DC universe. 
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Dec 28, 2015, 17:04:19
???  Wonder Woman is from the DC universe.

Well then.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: irk miller on Dec 28, 2015, 17:07:32
LOL
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: ridesolo on Dec 28, 2015, 17:07:50
Ha, is it bad that I had to Google mudhens? And yeah, I'm gonna have to buy a few more from Mr green zip tie himself 

Yeah, that's pretty bad, you are a native Ohioan.

Dang, I should have thought of putting one of his stickers on my van.  It hauled that trailer down here ok, but I'm sure if I had an Ichiban Moto sticker on there that 350 would pull like a 454!  (AND get the mileage of a hybrid!)   
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: canyoncarver on Dec 28, 2015, 17:09:37
I put an Ichiban sticker on my van and it made it all the way to Barber and back!
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Dec 28, 2015, 17:09:52
Yeah, that's pretty bad, you are a native Ohioan.

Dang, I should have thought of putting one of his stickers on my van.  It hauled that trailer down here ok, but I'm sure if I had an Ichiban Moto sticker on there that 350 would pull like a 454!  (AND get the mileage of a hybrid!)   


Yunt me to mail you 1 for the ride back after snowtime ?
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Dec 28, 2015, 17:10:10
I may have to put one on the hhr to make it to the meltdown
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Jan 06, 2016, 17:21:18
Got some more whittling to do, but got my triple tree back from my water jet guy (aka dad) lol

3/4" 6061

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Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: irk miller on Jan 06, 2016, 18:23:51
Can that waterjet cut the slits like in a flanders style clamp?  They'd be really small- as in 2 or 3 mm.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Jan 06, 2016, 18:32:40
Yeah, kurf is about .025" on a single line
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 06, 2016, 18:57:26
Yeah, kurf is about .025" on a single line

That would be plenty no? You do under cut the rad so the leg is snug fit, you don't want to pinch past home much more than that.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Jan 06, 2016, 19:13:51
I left .040" or so on all of the critical holes so I can bore them out. That way they are machined surfaces clamping the fork legs
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: DohcBikes on Jan 06, 2016, 20:23:49
Looking good I wish I could do that.

XB should be by soon to sign off on your work then will you be allowed to continue.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: irk miller on Jan 06, 2016, 20:56:00
LOL
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 06, 2016, 21:02:05
The wiki genius strikes again  ::)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: irk miller on Jan 06, 2016, 21:03:37
The wiki genius strikes again  ::)
Who dat?
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: irk miller on Jan 06, 2016, 21:07:25
I have a specific reason to ask...

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Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Jan 06, 2016, 21:12:58
I have a specific reason to ask...

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That would not be an issue as long as we had a 2d drawing of the profile for fixturing. Sure beats an 1/8" endmill through that thickness lol on mine, once I bore the holes to the finished size I'll just slit mine with a band saw since I can get to it from the outside, as opposed to the design of yours
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 06, 2016, 21:45:00
Just cut the saw blade and re weld it... duhh  ;D
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Jan 06, 2016, 21:57:51
Just cut the saw blade and re weld it... duhh  ;D
Pretty common place in the old school. Lots of old band saws had a blade cutter/welder right on it for just that reason
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 06, 2016, 22:00:34
Yep sir, just like splicing filim
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: irk miller on Jan 06, 2016, 22:01:32
Doesn't make a whole lotta sense for production.  They make little bitty scroll saws if that's the case.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 06, 2016, 22:03:02
Doesn't make a whole lotta sense for production.

When it was what you had it was common place and likely still done in many shops for tool making.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Jan 06, 2016, 22:04:07
Doesn't make a whole lotta sense for production.
Nope not really. Dad's old band saw in his tool and die shop has a cutter and welder on it. It was grandpa's when he had ran the shop. Back then it was really the only way to do a piece with a large hole in it or a slit like the one on your top clamp pic
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 06, 2016, 22:05:39
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmuEw4RKdQE
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Jan 06, 2016, 22:17:55
Ours doesn't have that fancy grinder attached lol
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 06, 2016, 22:32:05
Ours doesn't have that fancy grinder attached lol

The process is designed so you cab buy a spool of blade and fix/make new blades for far cheaper than buying them made up, I used to go get them from the school rather than the hardware made from broken blades in shop class... my old shop teach was cool that way.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Jan 07, 2016, 16:32:45
I had to go "help out" in the machine trades lab today. what a "boring" job lol
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I did teach a group of kids how to tram a head, square a vice, pick up a hole location with a coaxial indicator and use a boring head on a mill. Weird how my demonstration piece will just so happen to fit a 1973 ironhead..
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Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 07, 2016, 16:43:04
BooYaaa! your popularity just jumped the stadium hit and landed perfect on the front tire... Better keep clear of the riff raff

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Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Jan 07, 2016, 17:09:40
BooYaaa! your popularity just jumped the stadium hit and landed perfect on the front tire... Better keep clear of the riff raff

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this confuses me.. lol
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 07, 2016, 17:40:10
School kids lookin for favors... don't take herbal trade items.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: irk miller on Jan 07, 2016, 17:52:06
School kids lookin for favors... don't take as many herbal trade items as you can.
  Fixed it.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 07, 2016, 17:59:18
  Fixed it.

 :o :o they could be narcs mang! don't you read the news?
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Jan 07, 2016, 19:46:22
21 mother fucking Jump Street.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Jan 07, 2016, 20:37:44
Well anyhow lol

Got the triple mockup done. Suprized evening actually slid together. Still more machining to do, but the stance is much better in my opinion.

Your bikes coming along nicely Justin ;)

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Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: J-Rod10 on Jan 07, 2016, 21:16:02
Little time on a rotary table, and she'll be a good looking top clamp.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Jan 07, 2016, 21:18:13
Little time on a rotary table, and she'll be a good looking top clamp.
What do I need a rotary table for lol
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: J-Rod10 on Jan 07, 2016, 21:19:33
Leaving a straight edge behind the bolt?
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Jan 07, 2016, 21:22:29
Yep, gonna cross drill and slit for a clamp bolt like the one for the tapered tubes. Just wanted to test fit it first.
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Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: ridesolo on Jan 07, 2016, 22:29:41
Looking good, brother. 
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Jan 07, 2016, 23:57:48
Thanks Cory!
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 08, 2016, 10:21:26
I'd hit it.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Jan 08, 2016, 22:05:20
Haters gonna hate. I was in need of 1" bars, and these were the only ones in my price range at iron pony. Still looking for Superbike style bars, but these will do for now. Hate to say, they are more comfy than I thought. If there still on when you get it Jussy, you can change em lol

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Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: canyoncarver on Jan 08, 2016, 22:34:29
I dig them, they fit the bike. 
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: irk miller on Jan 08, 2016, 23:53:19
Why did ya have to go 1"?  Couldn't you get 7/8" risers since you made your own triple?  Changing controllers too, of course.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Jan 08, 2016, 23:57:56
With Harley stuff, from what I've found so far, it's hard to find a clutch perch and throttle cable that works with the Harley stuff. Was trying to go the easy way lol
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: irk miller on Jan 09, 2016, 01:14:08
Shows how much I know about Harley stuff.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Jan 09, 2016, 01:15:22
I probably only know slightly more at this point. Probably gonna stick with metric stuff after this one lol
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 09, 2016, 08:09:18
I would think a welder could buy a set of protaper bars and add a sleeve to the grip section... jus sayin :-X

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Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Jan 09, 2016, 10:06:53
Lol got these on the way.
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Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 09, 2016, 11:00:47
Cheah Bay B... those will be better. Not to bash the mini apes but... deadtail not softytail  :o
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Erskine on Jan 09, 2016, 17:41:29
Phew.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: DohcBikes on Jan 09, 2016, 18:21:26
Phew.
My thoughts exactly. That was a close one. ;)

Lookin good Hurc
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: J-Rod10 on Jan 09, 2016, 18:26:37
I was going to recommend looking at Buell bars, but you got it sorted.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 09, 2016, 18:58:06
He's gonna ride the shit out of that thing... He just doesn't know it yet!


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Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: DohcBikes on Jan 09, 2016, 19:14:59
Keep in mind you're gonna need the most common accessory for a Harley
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 09, 2016, 19:18:25
What would you know about Harley's 3 wheeler Boy?


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Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Jan 09, 2016, 19:18:44
He's gonna ride the shit out of that thing... He just doesn't know it yet!


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If he doesnt, I will.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: DohcBikes on Jan 09, 2016, 19:19:11
What would you know about Harley's 3 wheeler Boy?
I know I can build a twin cam with my eyes closed.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 09, 2016, 19:23:33
I keep waiting to see these builds... I know you can because you told us... All of us haha, I just want to learn from you mang!!!


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Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: DohcBikes on Jan 09, 2016, 19:30:11
I keep waiting to see these builds... I know you can because you told us... All of us haha, I just want to learn from you mang!!!


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Nah I tried posting a build here. Not gonna happen ever again. Before and afters someday maybe.

I might break this rule for a couple engines, just for you. But I doubt it.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 09, 2016, 19:32:58
Nah I tried posting a build here. Not gonna happen ever again.

Weel that suck, maybe you just got off to a bad start... you know this place is a popularuty contest and well... we aint winning hahahahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: DohcBikes on Jan 09, 2016, 19:34:35
Weel that suck, maybe you just got off to a bad start... you know this place is a popularuty contest and well... we aint winning hahahahahahahahahahaha
Well the first reply to my barely started project was XB calling me stupid so i guess the desire just isnt there.

Criticism is one thing but personal remarks will get your ass beat around here so I'm just gonna avoid it altogether.

Sorry for derail hurc bike is looking great

So who wants to know what the accessory is cmon ask me ask me
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 09, 2016, 19:40:49
Well the first reply to my barely started project was XB calling me stupid so i guess the desire just isnt there.

Criticism is one thing but personal remarks will get your ass beat around here so I'm just gonna avoid it altogether.

Man you need to let go of XB... the man is solid gold and just is having fun like you and I... we all know I'm an old screwball with a toolbox and XB is a machinist with a few plants... sustainable ya know and a good wealth of know hahahja loosen up Dawg be FREEE!!!
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Jan 09, 2016, 19:49:27


So who wants to know what the accessory is cmon ask me ask me
My first iron head related accessory was a 40lb. bag of floor dry
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: J-Rod10 on Jan 09, 2016, 19:51:40
My first iron head related accessory was a 40lb. bag of floor dry
Lololol.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 09, 2016, 19:52:06
I will give you what you have init right now ???
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: DohcBikes on Jan 09, 2016, 19:54:29
Man you need to let go of XB... the man is solid gold and just is having fun like you and I... we all know I'm an old screwball with a toolbox and XB is a machinist with a few plants... sustainable ya know and a good wealth of know hahahja loosen up Dawg be FREEE!!!
I did let it go. I simply don't interact with him anymore. Problem solved. I am well aware that he is brilliant, I just don't see the point of the personal remarks. That isn't fun for anybody it's just a coward behind a keyboard and that's all there is to it. He could just as easily leave out the direct insults and I know this because I dog shitty builds all the time without making personal remarks. Truth is that chances are under different circumstances XB and I would likely get along like harleys and fat chicks. Unfortunately my memory is long and once you have personally and intentionally insulted me it takes some time and action to change how I feel. I don't forsee that happening as of now.

Get back to the Hardley Ableson shall we? ;)

A pickup truck. The most common harley accessory is a pickup truck.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: DohcBikes on Jan 09, 2016, 19:55:14
My first iron head related accessory was a 40lb. bag of floor dry
LOL

What do you call a harley that doesn't leak oil?

Empty.


Whenever I have to use floor dry, you know how it works better when you grind it in with your boots...I call it the Harley shuffle
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: J-Rod10 on Jan 09, 2016, 19:59:43
They say 95% of Harleys ever made, are still on the road.


The other 5% made it home.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 09, 2016, 20:03:46
I did let it go. I simply don't interact with him anymore. Problem solved. I am well aware that he is brilliant, I just don't see the point of the personal remarks. That isn't fun for anybody it's just a coward behind a keyboard and that's all there is to it. He could just as easily leave out the direct insults and I know this because I dog shitty builds all the time without making personal remarks. Truth is that chances are under different circumstances XB and I would likely get along like harleys and fat chicks. Unfortunately my memory is long and once you have personally and intentionally insulted me it takes some time and action to change how I feel. I don't forsee that happening as of now.

Get back to the Hardley Ableson shall we? ;)


Eh Men.

A pickup truck. The most common harley accessory is a pickup truck.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: WhyNot on Jan 09, 2016, 21:13:37
 8) lol
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 10, 2016, 11:55:46
Jesus... Is this a build thread or a fucking soap opera? Talk about your feelings with your shrink.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: DohcBikes on Jan 10, 2016, 12:15:45
Jesus... Is this a build thread or a fucking soap opera? Talk about your feelings with your shrink.
Tune-A-Fish is my shrink.

P.S. Fuck off. This whole site is a soap opera.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 10, 2016, 12:23:55
Lol

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Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 10, 2016, 12:39:20
Mornin yall  ;D






My fee IS .50 hr  :o
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: irk miller on Jan 10, 2016, 13:50:54
Around here, a sad handy usually fixes things.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 10, 2016, 14:03:58
Rough handies are better.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: AgentX on Jan 10, 2016, 15:35:08
Rough handies are better.

Sand handie?
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Feb 02, 2016, 14:17:07
well after waiting almost a month ebay finally contacted me with a refund for my 1" superbike bars that I still haven't received. I will be getting the same style, but now we wait... again.

In other news, the place I bought the front stainless spokes from had messed up the bend angle on all of the outside spokes. They however made and sent me new ones free of charge. They just got here yesterday so I can finish up re lacing the front wheel. Ill hopefully have a roller here soon again.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Feb 02, 2016, 14:31:49
Huzzah!
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Feb 03, 2016, 23:24:56
Wheel laced. (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/02/03/2971c6b3a599978c7de0b43b160712e7.jpg)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Feb 03, 2016, 23:39:32
Nice! 

I have that hub on my radar, what is the axle dia.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Feb 03, 2016, 23:48:06
Nice! 

I have that hub on my radar, what is the axle dia.
20mm
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Feb 05, 2016, 17:44:37
New bars are much more better
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/02/05/f572e530b0e68998e7c740a99c7cebcb.jpg)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Feb 05, 2016, 18:07:48
Mucho
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: andycafe on Feb 05, 2016, 18:45:10
Muy bueno  8)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: canyoncarver on Feb 05, 2016, 19:37:56
Yeah man, with the mid controls, that should fit pretty nice.  Better than a wood bench in an old truck at least.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Feb 05, 2016, 20:18:54
Yeah man, with the mid controls, that should fit pretty nice.  Better than a wood bench in an old truck at least.
Nah, wood bench seat would be better
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Feb 05, 2016, 20:26:31
Very nice, man.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: VonYinzer on Feb 06, 2016, 16:56:57
Ehhhhhh yup
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Milpool on Feb 06, 2016, 22:18:55
Coming together well! Front wheel will look good in there, I'm currently dealing with the front brake issue but I don't have such useful parts on hand. I have an '81 Ironhead project I'm trying to find a 2ls drum for to replace the awful twin disc setup with. You're definitely a more capable builder than me though. Will definitely keep an eye on this build
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Feb 07, 2016, 12:30:55
Coming together well! Front wheel will look good in there, I'm currently dealing with the front brake issue but I don't have such useful parts on hand. I have an '81 Ironhead project I'm trying to find a 2ls drum for to replace the awful twin disc setup with. You're definitely a more capable builder than me though. Will definitely keep an eye on this build
If you want, I can detail out everything you need to put the cb550 lowers on the Harley tubes. All the stuff is pretty easily available on ebay. The custom top triple was only so I can use stock cb550 tubes because the tapered Harley ones were 4" over. If I had stock length Harley tubes I would have just used them with 550 lowers and then the cb350 front drum fits with just 2 washer type spacers made.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Feb 07, 2016, 13:04:07
If you want, I can detail out everything you need to put the cb550 lowers on the Harley tubes. All the stuff is pretty easily available on ebay. The custom top triple was only so I can use stock cb550 tubes because the tapered Harley ones were 4" over. If I had stock length Harley tubes I would have just used them with 550 lowers and then the cb350 front drum fits with just 2 washer type spacers made.

That makes for good thread content mang... it's what my intentions were coming here, all the good free info.

Keep it going... Peace out.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Feb 15, 2016, 20:14:02
Well its a bittersweet day. The ironhead went to a new home. I had every intention of getting this girl running and flipping it for some cash or trading it for something else.

I ended up selling it to my wife's cousin who suprised his dad with it as a gift. I am in the red a bit on the whole deal, but seeing the look on uncle bobs face is worth it (really not trying to be sappy, but it was nice seeing him excited about it). He had a 76 sporty back in his glory days. The good news is I will still see this project through to completion and I'll be helping them along the way, and he even said I can ride it =) I'll still try to keep this thread up, it's just not mine now...

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/02/15/4ed4610021cde3b667bd877067942964.jpg)

In its new home.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/02/15/0f02d1a8002f6fa0c9e7534cda2d06a8.jpg)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: B541Niner on Feb 15, 2016, 20:17:58
Cool bike...glad it didn't get too far away from you.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Feb 15, 2016, 20:57:19
Good Stuff mang... Looks like plenty of talent in da family  8)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Feb 15, 2016, 21:01:22
Good Stuff mang... Looks like plenty of talent in da family  8)
Yep, it's in far more capable hands than my own to be honest. Nick, my wife's cousin is something of a genius. In that pic is part of a frame rail for a 66 GTO that he is custom fabricating to accept a c6 (I think) corvette front suspension. Bikes will be simple against his skill set
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Feb 15, 2016, 21:08:28
Is he familiar with DeadTails  :o  ;D
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Feb 15, 2016, 21:14:54
Is he familiar with DeadTails  :o  ;D
Ha, he will be...
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: irk miller on Feb 15, 2016, 21:23:11
C4, C5 and C6 suspension swaps are pretty common.  Depending on what width suspension you want depends on which one you do.  They make kits for them even.  A lot of 50s Ford and Chevy cars and trucks use a C4 because they have a 61in width suspension.

Flat Out Engineering is one of the popular truck kits..

http://www.flatout-engineering.com/index.html (http://www.flatout-engineering.com/index.html)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Feb 15, 2016, 21:29:00
C4, C5 and C6 suspension swaps are pretty common.  Depending on what width suspension you want depends on which one you do.  They make kits for them even.  A lot of 50s Ford and Chevy cars and trucks use a C4 because they have a 61in width suspension.

Flat Out Engineering is one of the popular truck kits..

http://www.flatout-engineering.com/index.html (http://www.flatout-engineering.com/index.html)
I'm not to up on car stuff. He is doing it mostly with plum bobs, lasers, and tape measures with lots of math. I would buy the kit if it were mine haha
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on May 18, 2016, 21:24:59
He keeps plugging away. I may have to buy this back from him....

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160518/65b7b94648859fd4b5a459f7c4fec80a.jpg)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on May 18, 2016, 22:52:52
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160518/296b836da38d971873be7178b339c0c3.jpg)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on May 18, 2016, 22:53:59
He He once you ride it your gonna want it
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Jul 19, 2016, 22:33:29
Got a text from Nick today. Took the Harley for its first ride today, if only to the end of his driveway. Sadly I wasn't there.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160719/fef13af0b098d843e4b451d40bad89e0.jpg)
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Erskine on Jul 21, 2016, 18:26:21
I love the functional understated look of it, can't be done with bling bling handbag bikes.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: VonYinzer on Jul 21, 2016, 21:42:16
I'd hit it.
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Jul 23, 2017, 21:41:07
They are still plugging away. They got the paint done and wrapped the headers, and fabbed a new oil tank. Not looking to shabby.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170724/5af1d9f2c636b2047bf0bd94e43b957b.jpg)

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Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: dakine_surf on Jul 25, 2017, 08:58:44
Man, I missed this whole thread... just read through the whole thing, awesome result, glad it's still in the family (sorta) bet it is a blast... it makes me really want to start on my hardtail project


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Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: VonYinzer on Jul 25, 2017, 09:49:28
They are still plugging away. They got the paint done and wrapped the headers, and fabbed a new oil tank. Not looking to shabby.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170724/5af1d9f2c636b2047bf0bd94e43b957b.jpg)

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Dreamy
Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Jul 25, 2017, 11:51:54
Yep, much better than this I have to say(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170725/9e90e89649c1d9c2d05fefa59e7fa397.jpg)

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Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: Hurco550 on Sep 05, 2017, 22:29:08
https://youtu.be/U8q_3O374UA

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Title: Re: 1973 ironhead 1000. "the dark side" dead tail
Post by: canyoncarver on Sep 06, 2017, 14:33:18
That thing is very cool.