Suspect Upholsterer Attitude

Killman77

当有疑问时踢你的敌人在生殖器上,你可以道歉后
Okay, so I'm kinda cheesed off, thought I'd look for some perspective before I lose my cool.

I took a couple of seats into the new local vintage shop to have seat covers installed. I've been in a couple of times now, the upholstery guy is less than friendly, but I figured if he did great work then I can put up with the attitude.
He called me today to tell me that the foam was for shit on one of the pans that I brought him, (fair enough, it was, and I appreciated him calling me to discuss the situation before racking up extra costs) so I brought him another seat pan with better foam.
Here's where it started to get a bit dodgy. He had one of the seat covers installed already. When I checked it out, there were huge dead spots where the cover was stretched out about an inch above the foam. In my mind that means that it's going to get stretched out, wrinkly, and more prone to catch on something and tear. My analogy, (probably a poor one) was, "What if I accidentally sit on it with a wrench in my pocket, or something? With a snug fit, and foam under it to give a bit, it's less likely to tear." His response was to not do that, and then he kept muttering like I'd mortally offended him or something. He showed me another bike in the shop, which had a seat in the same condition, saying, "That's upholstery."
Now I brought the jobs to him because he's supposed to be a professional with years of experience. Showing me two bikes with bad seats doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
When I brought up the fact that the original covers fit nice and snug, he responded that these were just covers that I had brought in, (the implication being that because he hadn't custom made them himself, I should expect an inferior job, I guess). Okay, so I asked him what it would take time and money-wise to shape up the foam to get a decent fit. All I got were defensiveness, excuses and borderline hostility. He made a big deal out of telling me, "Absolutely no guarantees here, this is like trying to bring a corpse back to life!"
WTF? I mean seriously, the dude's supposed to be hot shit, this is two seat covers we're talking about here, and I've already told him that I'll pay extra to make sure the job is done right.

Now there aren't a lot of options out here, but I'm not exactly feeling the love, or confidence in the service. Obviously it's another skill I'm going to have to learn for myself, but right now I just wanted to pay a pro to get the job done right. With any luck they'll be done tomorrow, but now I'm worried about riding with the things in case I stretch them out beyond another upholsterer's ability to make them look decent. Obviously I'm going to pay for the work he's done so far, but it pisses me off to think I'm probably going to have to try and find someone else to fix a hack job.

So if anyone's got some decent advice, let me hear it, because I'm less than thrilled. I'm also not looking to get a rep for being a difficult jerk to deal with in this tiny city, but at $60/hour I'd like a good job done.
 
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Yeah man....fuck that guy......its upholstery for Pete's sake. It should able to be stretched and fit correctly..
 
Lateral thinking required .................. like any "specialists", bike seat upholsterers think they are the chosen ones [ that's 9 out of 10 ] and as such, charge "chosen one" prices. ::)

Find ANY decent upholsterer [ household, commercial ], explain what you want - and Robert's your Pater's sibling.

The guy who used to do the upholstery for my replica cars [ Porsche, Cobra, Jag, etc ] did a couple of seats for me and made a fantastic job - and 60% cheaper than a bike seat "specialist" quoted. ;)
 
That sucks, I hate dealing with people like that and one of the reasons I try and do most things myself, even if the end result is not the best sometimes. I'd say cut your losses and go pick up the seats now even if they are not done, pay the guy and move on. Let us know how it works out.
 
Yeah,
Agreed with the other dudes.
Go find a furniture/car upholstery shop they can handle it no problem. Just make sure you take some photos to explain what exactly you want.
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Or do it yourself. if they are the pre sewn seat covers for the pan. they are really easy to put on and put on well. make sure foam is smooth cover it in batten, put cover over, flip, pull tight evenly around base and either hook on the little bendy spikes in the pan or rivet in the holes with rivets. the hard part is done with a pre-made cover fer shit sakes the guy you are using is a complete douche from the sounds of it. Take your stuff a leave. If you really thing you can't do it yourself, there has to be a DTT person close enough who will do it for beers. I would if I was. I covered a virago 550 seat for a buddy, he bought the vinyl, it was a plastic pan so I had the staples. I pulled the torn seat cover, removed the stiches, used the pieces to cut new cover, sewed it together, stapled it on, took me 2 hours and I got a case of beer out of it.
 
Thanks guys, nice to know it wasn't just me niccing out.

The guy called me to pick them up this morning before he opened. Not sure if it was meant as a nice gesture, or to get me through the shop before clients showed up. Charged me $155, did a not quite okay job in the end. Didn't bother to smooth out the visible folds under the front of the 440 seat, or to smooth out the wrinkles on the 750, not what I would expect from a pro for pro prices.
What's the thought process that says to disrespect clients and materials just because they're not buying the full-boat $350 custom seat? Money spends just the same from a small job, and a happy client brings in more revenue.

Lesson learned. I'll be looking for a car/furniture upholsterer if I have any work to be done before I teach myself how to do it. I just wanted two nice seats done quickly, so I turned to the expert.
It makes me shake my head. I'm offering buffing & polishing and some other light work out of my own little shop to try to bring in some cash now that my seasonal job is over. I know my limitations and wouldn't take on a job that I didn't feel I could deliver 100+% on. I've got no problems outsourcing and cross-promoting with other local guys, and I would have been happy to send clients their way, and advertise their work on my bikes. Not now, no way.

Real bummer experience on what should have been an exciting day.

On the plus side, I got an awesome unexpected surprise. I actually hate the 440 Ltd seat lines. To me, that drastic raised rear part looks clunky and ginormous. This seat cover was just something that I picked up a couple of years ago because the current cover was shot. Figured I'd use it on days I expected to be on the bike all day. The plan was to make another seat with a shaved down rear on it, more of a Cafe style but still thick enough to not give me instant hemorrhoids.
The one I picked up today is still the thick raised style, but it has smoother lines to it and doesn't look so boxy, actually looks almost GSXR/streetfighter fairing-ish in a way, with the smooth, high, narrow rear end. I really like it, and I wasn't thinking that I would.
I love it when stuff is cooler than I was expecting.
Just wish it didn't have those shitty folds showing under the front.

Fuck that guy.
 
Death by Bunga Bunga!!!!


"Three guys are captured by a tribe of natives in a far off land. They are brought before the tribal leader who gives them a choice. He s
ays, "what will you have, death or bunga?". The first guys thinks, hmmm wonder what bunga is. "I'll take the bunga". The tribal leader says, "good". Then a dozen tribal members line up and give it to him in the rear. The tribal leader turns to the second guy and gives him the choice, death, or bunga. The second guy thinks, hmm, that bunga thing is pretty nasty. But death is permanent, "I'll take the bunga". Tribal leader says, "good", and a hundred tribesmen line up and give him the bunga. The tribal leader gives the choice to the third captive. He thinks a while, hmm, first it was a dozen, then it was a hundred, I don't know man. Heck with it, "I'll take death". The tribal leader says, "good, death .... by bunga".

source: http://www.jokes4us.com/dirtyjokes/bungajoke.html
 
How did he attach the seat cover to the pan?
It should be pretty simple to pull the front of the cover up and smooth out the folds.
 
LOL Well, if I'm gonna get bunga'd before 10 am, Friday the 13th is the day for it.

I'm gonna finally have my morning coffee, and a smoke or two, then I'll snap some pics for y'all. I was going to take a slacker day for the first time in recent memory, but it's a nice day and I've got a few bikes just waiting on some love.

Some carb love from the new ultrasonic cleaner, some tire love from the new oil paint pens, some polishing love from the new Caswell kits... ;D

...And then there's the "Paint It Black" 750, now featuring in it's own build thread. I think I'll start by giving it a hug and telling it, "It's not your fault". Worked for Robin Williams, right?

***EDIT
Turns out that we're out of coffee. And the gf has the van at work. Not cool Mr. 13th, not cool.
Oh well, Earl Grey, hot.
 
My wife does my upholstery and I have a few trusted people that are fantastic at it. If you can find someone who is good at what they do treat them well and you will have no worries.

xb33bsa said:
fuck his mom,sister or wife..... whichever comes easiest

Do it right and you can have all three!
 
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