I'll probably regret posting in this thread but I'll say this, Dohc, I believe you care more than your avatar suggests. You put in the effort to wade through so many posts that any rational person can assume you care about this stuff. You are often good at presenting your point, other times, your communication style shuts down the person you try to educate. You can't blame them for that. I don't intend this to be criticism, just observation from my point of view. I've been a teacher of sorts for many years and learning to adapt communication styles to the intended audience changed the game for me. Just my .02