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Title: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 16, 2015, 00:28:37
Here we go...

I made a trade with a pal, Mr. E.  I passed off my CB360 and he passed off his arch nemesis, this CB750, a bunch of parts and an XL250 motor. It's a trade amongst friends and considering we grew up just on opposite sides of the NC/SC border from each other, it's a trade amongst neighbors. 

For now, it rests in the Cafe Racer section because (for now) that's what it basically is.  I have a feeling it will end up closer to a tracker, while I've had the fleeting thought of a hardtail chop.  A Cafe/Tracker blend is what I'm most leaning towards. 

The story begins with a bunch of parts.  I'm going to try to run a KZ750 front end with GPZ mags.  It has a CB550T tank and a seat passed on from Retro Moto.  I also have a Mr. E Machining top triple for a CB750, which means I will seriously look at returning to the CB750 front end.  If nothing else, but because I know that will work.  I also have the triple from a CB650, which appears to have the exact offset.  If that works, then the CB750 front becomes more likely. 

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Finnigan on Mar 16, 2015, 00:42:30
So if you don't plan on using that tank, dibs?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 16, 2015, 00:44:31
So if you don't plan on using that tank, dibs?
Definitely using that tank, hombre.  That is, no doubt, the best tank Honda made. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: JAGspeed on Mar 16, 2015, 01:00:29
 I used that same tank on my 750 build, a couple mods to the frame and it fits on nice. I'll be watching this build.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Finnigan on Mar 16, 2015, 03:14:46
I agree
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Mar 16, 2015, 09:04:33
No stinking stock signals will be needed for this build... Logged in.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Mar 16, 2015, 10:48:52
Alright, I'm in.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Mar 16, 2015, 10:59:56
Whats up with the little blue honda tank takin up space on the mopar?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 16, 2015, 11:40:30
Whats up with the little blue honda tank takin up space on the mopar?
Just sitting there.  I'm not going to use it.  It's from a '78 XL175 parts bike I bought for it's kick starter shaft.  It needs cleaned and has a dent in the front corner, right where the tank goes over the frame top tube.  You can kind'a see it in the pic where the two rust spots are.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 16, 2015, 23:55:03
Work has begun figuring out the front end.  This is an initial mockup to get the KZ750 front end sorted on this machine.  From here, the trail seems like it might be a little long.  Still, the look is about right.  I need the right axle to do this right, as I currently have a KZ750 axle but no GPZ axle. 

Now, the fairing I was messing with on the GL is on it's rightful machine.  This is what it was made for. 

Also talking to Junior about the seat.  Right now, I'm just looking at options for him to alter it.  Mainly, I want the gap at the tank filled and more of an upsweep at the rear baseline.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Ellwood on Mar 17, 2015, 00:10:48
Those center stands make all front ends look long until you get the weight down on them. That fairing does look sweet on that bike. Check out the guys at  Cognito Moto,  his bikes and parts are sweet. Need to rob a bank to buy his front end conversions though. With clients like Katee Sackhoff and The Walking Dead... His bike are super expensive. But he's got some cool ideas.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: WhyNot on Mar 17, 2015, 06:38:55
Looks great Eric.........you're building quite the stable.

Man you come up with the wildest deals.

I like those wheels. Keep up the good work.

If, I ever get anything I own road worthy again, we'll have to hook up for a ride around Metro Augusta.... :D
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 17, 2015, 07:20:40
Looks great Eric.........you're building quite the stable.

Man you come up with the wildest deals.

I like those wheels. Keep up the good work.

If, I ever get anything I own road worthy again, we'll have to hook up for a ride around Metro Augusta.... :D
Thanks, Bud.  No doubt we'll ride. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Mar 17, 2015, 08:56:57
I can see a gallon of midnight oil going into this one... Looks killer, double take "CB"? KZ"? hmm what was that? haha.

Looks a bit raked at first glance, but the stand comment may be why... what's the wheel base where she sits? 57.2-3 for later years is stock spec and rake and trail is 63/3.7 in

Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 17, 2015, 09:48:50
I can see a gallon of midnight oil going into this one... Looks killer, double take "CB"? KZ"? hmm what was that? haha.

Looks a bit raked at first glance, but the stand comment may be why... what's the wheel base where she sits? 57.2-3 for later years is stock spec and rake and trail is 63/3.7 in
Thanks for this.  Good stuff.  The wheel base will a bit difficult to determine, as the rear swinger is also KZ.  I assume it's just a matter of finding the difference between the KZ and CB swingers to figure out the numbers.  I'm not sure there is much of (if any) a difference, except the KZ swinger shock mount is slightly further back than the CB's.   I'm trying to figure out if I need to move the mount forward or go with what I have.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Maritime on Mar 17, 2015, 10:20:43
Ok sign me up.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: bradj on Mar 17, 2015, 10:46:11
Tell your story in the truck. Let's go Nancy !
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: canyoncarver on Mar 17, 2015, 13:51:38
In FTW
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Mar 17, 2015, 13:52:31
Tell your story in the truck. Let's go Nancy !

Ha!
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 17, 2015, 14:08:47
Yes.  Ha. Ha. Ha.  Fucker.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 18, 2015, 00:35:00
Modified BMW projector running light, mounting bracket, Mr. E Machining trim ring...
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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 18, 2015, 08:08:32
Look into my crystal ball...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Mar 18, 2015, 08:32:31
Paint this weekend? first pack ride next?  >:( Oh and that head lamp is sweet man!
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Mar 18, 2015, 09:21:09
Just sitting there.  I'm not going to use it.  It's from a '78 XL175 parts bike I bought for it's kick starter shaft.  It needs cleaned and has a dent in the front corner, right where the tank goes over the frame top tube.  You can kind'a see it in the pic where the two rust spots are.

Missed this reply... If the inside is usable I may make an offer on it... I have the stock xl tank with what I call the three wheeler filler cap (giant whore hole) on my 185... However I have also been kicking around an extreme chop cut rebuild into a tracker so the tank would change all together. If you want to part ways with it I have a tank grave yard started, get me one more pic of inside or let me know if its salvageable.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 18, 2015, 09:51:54
Missed this reply... If the inside is usable I may make an offer on it... I have the stock xl tank with what I call the three wheeler filler cap (giant whore hole) on my 185... However I have also been kicking around an extreme chop cut rebuild into a tracker so the tank would change all together. If you want to part ways with it I have a tank grave yard started, get me one more pic of inside or let me know if its salvageable.
  Will do.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: canyoncarver on Mar 18, 2015, 12:33:11
I have a nice stock airbox for that beast if you need but I was assuming you were going to put CV carbs, pods and Firestones.....so.....  ;)
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 18, 2015, 12:38:16
I have a nice stock airbox for that beast if you need but I was assuming you were going to put CV carbs, pods and Firestones.....so.....  ;)
Ha.  Why don't you send me that airbox so I can convert it into a bong?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: canyoncarver on Mar 18, 2015, 13:06:59
You sir, are an innovator.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Ellwood on Mar 18, 2015, 13:18:19
You could put it up for the mod of the month... Or build an Amen frame chopper to go with it ;)
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 19, 2015, 02:45:58
What it iz... What it iz!

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Mr.E on Mar 22, 2015, 17:28:28
The answer to the wheel base question is " Yeah that looks about right, I'll go with it, time for another beer." I don't know what I was thinking, I just ran out of steam on the project, and got busy machining things. If anyone can button it up, it's definitely this guy. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 22, 2015, 18:40:57
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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Mar 22, 2015, 18:57:59
Seems your skills basket is well diversified, I suspect you throw down a mean barbeque too.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 22, 2015, 19:01:20
Ha. Well I am particularly proud of my mustard-based BBQ sauce. It's all about that sauce.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Ellwood on Mar 22, 2015, 21:13:28
Mustard sauce... Your giving away your geographic location... Need to go to Sweatmans
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: john83 on Mar 23, 2015, 19:12:53
In.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 23, 2015, 22:16:08
The axle to the left is the one for my forks. The right is for the wheel.

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They aren't the same.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: cxman on Mar 23, 2015, 22:33:19
they are for different fork tubes
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 23, 2015, 22:35:34
they are for different fork tubes

I know this.  ;)  I need to figure out how to make them the same.  KZ750 forks and KZ550 rims.  Right now I'm looking for a bearing with the right shaft diameter.

Edit:  CB750 uses a 15mm axle to the KZ750's 17mm.  I think it would be easier to change back to the 750 front end (plus I have Mr. E's first triple #001 for a CB750) and utilize the same axle.  But right now I don't have a CB750 front end.  I just have this'n and (I think) a KZ650.  That opens up another box, however, as E's triple utilizes no risers.  Adjustable, just a question of what trail to I decide to ride on.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: cxman on Mar 24, 2015, 07:53:25
eric i have special sleeve bushings i use for different wheel adaptations on cxs

let me know your axle size i may be able to hand you a solution not involving swapping bearings
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: cervix a lot on Mar 24, 2015, 10:12:45
So glad I found this addition to the older thread, I am waiting on my cb500t tank to come so I can mount it on my 77 cb750k frame. Any tips or tricks you can give me on how to get it to mount easier? Also I noticed there was a gap between your tank and seat, is that gap present when using any seat based off the stock seat pan? (My bike is at my friends shop right now so I can't mock it up in person. Anyways thanks for any help you can give me, your build looks rad!

Cheers!
Andrew


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 24, 2015, 11:05:46
I've got the seat on my GL now, which leaves a gap.  As far as fit on the 750, I think it was made for a more forward position at the tail, so it really depends on the length of the hoop.  With the tank, there are a couple of places around both sides of the middle of the tank and inside of the petcock that needs to be massaged with a hammer to fit over the frame well. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: cervix a lot on Mar 24, 2015, 13:20:01
I've got the seat on my GL now, which leaves a gap.  As far as fit on the 750, I think it was made for a more forward position at the tail, so it really depends on the length of the hoop.  With the tank, there are a couple of places around both sides of the middle of the tank and inside of the petcock that needs to be massaged with a hammer to fit over the frame well.

Thanks for the info! I guess I could have worded my question regarding the seat gap a bit better, I am trying to run the cb500 tank with the stock cb750 seat, do you happen to know if it fits without leaving a gap?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Mr.E on Mar 26, 2015, 07:59:53
I mocked it up that way once way back when I started. It didn't fit very well.  The 500t tank is a tad longer and needs a custom rear mount where the stock tank used the rubber stay.  It also had a king & queen seat, so it was all kinda crunched. Probably workable if you shave a bit off the front of the seat tho.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 26, 2015, 08:11:25
Thanks, E.  I forgot to reply.  I notice the hook on the tank and the hook on the frame or literally over top of each other.  It should be an easy fab to figure out a mount.  I have not gotten that far, though.  I plan to get an E wheel from Brad, so until April the tin knocking is on hold. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 26, 2015, 20:34:47
Apparently, the front end is not as complex as I thought. According to my daughter, it's just a matter of getting my hardware right.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Mr.E on Mar 26, 2015, 22:52:06
Coming from Brad it oughta be called a Canadian wheel or a French wheel. Anything but English wheel :P kidding... That's awesome. I'd love to know how to do that one day. Yeah i figured it wouldn't be hard to make a mount back there. But I do recall the stock seat is a big crunch with that tank. I gave the original seat away For that reason.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 28, 2015, 12:35:07
It'll go a little something like this...

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I'm redoing the rear hoop to make it happen.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: cervix a lot on Mar 28, 2015, 14:59:18
 :-\ looks as though I may have lept with out looking too carefully when I bought that 500t tank. Wwhen you say a crunch does that mean that it is doable or will it just not fit althogether? Also I am trying to solve the whole dual outlet on the petcock for the 500t and was thinking that running two lines into a Y-connector would be the easiest solution, can you speak to that at all?

Sorry I am not trying to hijack your thread it's just such a stroke of luck that I wanted to take the oppertunity to get as much info as I can haha. I really like how your bike is turning out witht he raw tank and the MX bars I was thinking about doing something very similiar.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Mar 28, 2015, 15:03:10
nice
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Mar 28, 2015, 15:50:27
Are you gonna keep the raw tank? 

I been debating sanding mine down for the past couple weeks.  A Fresh new look for the Thaw.  Is Bondo and rusty metal fashionable w the HIPSTERS these days?
Title: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 28, 2015, 15:51:51
No way. That's how it came from E. I haven't had the paint scheme meeting yet.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Mar 28, 2015, 15:54:37
No way. That's how it came from E. I had to weld up a crack in it too.

thats what I figured.  I didnt think you were ballsy enough to go raw nekked.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 28, 2015, 15:55:19
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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 29, 2015, 01:51:41
Thinking of running a scoop, at least on the oil side.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: bombsightcycles on Mar 29, 2015, 06:14:55
you made me go back out and stare woefully at both of my 1980 CB750F Super Sports...oh the possibilities...
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 30, 2015, 00:29:24
More changes. Waiting on a CB750 fork set. In the meantime, the fairing I made for the GL ended up hot glued to the front of this machine. The foam mockup is ready for a thin coat of Aqua-resin, then casting. I also took the head to a local shop to have them weld up and re-tap one of the exhaust flange bolts. 

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Bootsey on Mar 30, 2015, 02:02:36
Looking good, I like the direction this is heading.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: bombsightcycles on Mar 30, 2015, 02:26:47
yeah...I agree....looking good....
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Mar 30, 2015, 08:49:45
Integrated/frenched tail light is awesome... coming along nicely!
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 30, 2015, 12:09:08
Just a pause to give a point of reference.  The tail I'm going for is to be a combo of tracker and 70's era race bike...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Mar 30, 2015, 12:36:12
Beautiful Beast.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: canyoncarver on Mar 30, 2015, 13:10:19
I'm digging the air scoop for the oil bag, nice touch.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 30, 2015, 13:33:29
Thanks, man.  I just hope I can take it all the way through the process...  ;)
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: billyp on Mar 30, 2015, 19:24:46
Thinking of running a scoop, at least on the oil side.

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Love the scoop idea, I think the tail may be a little short though. I like the length on the Kawi race bike, maybe somewhere in between?
Just an opinion and you know what those are like...
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 30, 2015, 19:29:12
Ha. I hear ya. A longer seat gives you more room for multiple riding positions. I want to be able to slide back and forth. The 360 seat I made held you snug like the race seat and that bike sucked to ride any distance on. Flat trackers often have a longer pad, which is how I went on my XL. This 750 seat combines the 360 and XL seats.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: billyp on Mar 30, 2015, 19:41:31
How about lengthening just the tail section, the back of it, not the whole seat pan. I was thinking the tail itself looked a little stubby

Definitely cool though, don't get me wrong
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 31, 2015, 02:35:30
First coats of Aqua-resin over the foam. Edges are still rough here, especially around details like the scoop and the oil cap.  A few more layers and we'll be ready for mold.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Maritime on Mar 31, 2015, 09:40:28
I like it.  Right tires and it will be quite the tracker/cafe/hot rod mashup.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Apr 08, 2015, 00:55:00
I finally got the front end sorted. Even without slinging forks into my neighbors yard. This is what you see:

KZ650 tree+KZ750 forks+KZ550 axle.. On Friday Mr E will be delivering split shims he machined to adapt the 550 axle to the 750 fork. 

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I also made a pattern for the seat. Since I just bought an e wheel from BradJ, I want to go at it in metal. #metalheadz

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Apr 11, 2015, 02:43:17
Well gents, we have an official rolling frame. With a little finesse, I got the front axle sorted. For now (maybe forever), I deleted the speedo gear and the crappy plastic side cover.  The axle uses the stock spacer, a CB750 spacer and a washer made from the wide, end of another spacer. Nothing a hacksaw and a file can't do.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Apr 11, 2015, 02:49:33
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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Apr 11, 2015, 07:01:10
Looks like this project is really gonna come together nice.   Im pretty interested to see the metal work start.

Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: canyoncarver on Apr 12, 2015, 00:01:48
I'm glad you made those wheels work on that bike.  It's just right.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Apr 12, 2015, 02:49:32
Those wheels are rad

I bought an English wheel from Brad last week. I decided to rework the fairing with it.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Apr 12, 2015, 08:44:29
 Its a pretty surprising transformation.
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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Apr 12, 2015, 19:51:26
English wheels are fun...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: cxman on Apr 12, 2015, 20:24:47
go Eric
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Apr 12, 2015, 21:34:19
hells bells dude make a vid of you working a piece in this thing.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: bradj on Apr 12, 2015, 22:33:36
That headlight thing looks like Frankensteins head
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Apr 12, 2015, 22:38:16
Is that bad?


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Apr 13, 2015, 07:17:12
That headlight thing looks like Frankensteins head

Just make the neck bolts into turn signals and you're good to go.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: cxman on Apr 13, 2015, 08:46:36
its a welding helmet for phil the minion



eric you rock that english wheel !
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Maritime on Apr 13, 2015, 09:10:25
its a welding helmet for phil the minion



eric you rock that english wheel !

BANANA!
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Apr 13, 2015, 16:43:12
The oil bag side is hard as hell to do. A few more passes and it should be plenty smooth.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Apr 13, 2015, 23:41:00
I gave myself a deadline of the end of Spring Break to finish the seat.  i did not make my deadline.  Tomorrow I go back to work.  :'( The oil bag kicked my ass trying to form around it.  I have both side covers and the seat tacked together.  This week, I'll get the rear face with the tail light housing and the underside.  I want to incorporate a fender somehow, but I've yet to come to a decision as to how.I also need to redo the rear hoop to match the upswing of the tail.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Apr 14, 2015, 06:32:15
Looks to me like, you kicked its ass.   ;)
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: cxman on Apr 14, 2015, 08:21:35
That looks awesome
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Apr 14, 2015, 08:42:20
If the hoop is not for anything other than structural triangulation you could bury it, and use it for a mounting surface. In other words... you don't need to see it in this tail like a bobber.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Apr 14, 2015, 08:45:59
If the hoop is not for anything other than structural triangulation you could bury it, and use it for a mounting surface. In other words... you don't need to see it in this tail like a bobber.
Yep.  The plan, at least how I envision it at the moment, is to notch it, push it up into the tail, weld up the notch, form the sheet to fit around it so it leaves the interior of the hoop exposed, then run a fender through it and use the hoop as a mount.  The stock XL utilizes the hoop to mount the fender in a really nice way.  I'm thinking I should copy that modus. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Apr 14, 2015, 08:50:01
Nice, that should work for mounting lights also.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Apr 16, 2015, 08:25:03
I cut triangular notches out of the top of the rear hoop on both sides, just behind the upper shock mounts. Pushed up the hoop so the bottom of the hoop matches the bottom of the seat. Welded it up. I think it looks right. Next up- close off the rear of the seat and French the rear tail light.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Ellwood on Apr 16, 2015, 09:28:42
Looks like you could have standard loop look if you wanted a change... Just swap seats... Nice
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Apr 18, 2015, 01:40:52
Got the rear of the seat/tail sorted out.  I still haven't decided once and for all if I want to go with the oval brake light.  I also have some grinding to do on the welds at the seams, but the hard part is mostly done. 

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Apr 18, 2015, 08:40:55
THAT is nice.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on May 08, 2015, 11:34:19
Just picked up my head. They had to weld up and machine exhaust studs, plus a valve job.  They did great work. $311 for everything and the wife is going to kick my ass. Let's see how I get out of this one.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on May 08, 2015, 11:45:52
Don't tell her? Never worked for me, but some people have two accounts I guess.

If you push, you could ride it next week!
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on May 08, 2015, 11:47:54
Don't tell her? Never worked for me, but some people have two accounts I guess.

If you push, you could ride it next week!
  Yep.  I don't keep shit from her.  I have a side job waiting on me that was supposed to cover it, too.  If I can get one of my girls well enough to not have to babysit for a weekend while the wife works, I can make it back. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Maritime on May 08, 2015, 11:54:12
forgiveness is always easier than permission, I am not smart enough to lie, so I don't, I do keep cash from selling bike stuff and odd jobs separate from the joint account though to use for stuff like this and that makes it easier. she doesn't see it leave the account cause it never goes in. Less splaining to do that way.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on May 08, 2015, 11:56:54
forgiveness is always easier than permission, I am not smart enough to lie, so I don't, I do keep cash from selling bike stuff and odd jobs separate from the joint account though to use for stuff like this and that makes it easier. she doesn't see it leave the account cause it never goes in. Less splaining to do that way.
Yeah.  My Paypal serves that purpose for most things.  It's mine and she doesn't question.  Unfortunately, this one was debit from the bank. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Brodie on May 08, 2015, 12:12:15
Separate accounts man. That is how the missus and I do it. I don't see what she spends and she doesn't see what I spend. Not that I don't tell her what I have bought though.
We have a joint account for bills. The rest is for the individual.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Maritime on May 08, 2015, 13:09:17
Separate accounts man. That is how the missus and I do it. I don't see what she spends and she doesn't see what I spend. Not that I don't tell her what I have bought though.
We have a joint account for bills. The rest is for the individual.

This works for some folks. My wife's parents have done things that way for 40+years. We on the other hand because I made 2X my wife's income when first out of school meant splitting bills 50/50 left her with nothing left to spend. So for a bit I would just pay for all the fun stuff, extras but that made her feel bad so we went the way of pay goes in the joint account, we each take our allowances which is ours to spend how we wish and then the rest of the $ we both decide what to do with it if anything is left after household bills. Works for the most part except when the pay goes in, bills come out and there is a - balance LOL.  Finances is something that needs to work for the folks involved. Different ways to do it, but I know when you start hiding stuff, shit goes bad fast.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on May 08, 2015, 13:12:20
We have always just thrown the money in a pot and do what we have to do with it.  I'll never hide from it.  In the end, she knows I'll make it work out.  I always do.  Doesn't mean she won't take the opportunity to administer my lumps.  ;)
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Maritime on May 08, 2015, 13:12:51
Yep, I hear ya there.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: canyoncarver on May 08, 2015, 16:13:08
I've tried managing accounts three different ways with three diffferent wives.  Third times a charm.  Full disclosure.  Lol, but the learning part was uh..difficult.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on May 08, 2015, 16:37:14
We make decisions together on big stuff, I know when my Pay Pal card is maxed it's time to SWITCH TO AMEX lol haha! no really I just keep it between the lines and if I want something out of the box, I take on some side jobs or save up.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: WhyNot on May 08, 2015, 19:54:56
We make decisions together on big stuff, I know when my Pay Pal card is maxed it's time to SWITCH TO AMEX lol haha! no really I just keep it between the lines and if I want something out of the box, I take on some side jobs or save up.



Exactly.............................................
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on May 09, 2015, 04:07:17
Back to a stock size lamp...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on May 09, 2015, 10:16:16
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/09/bba5261d03b7b991532c9093ebca19df.jpg)

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: cxman on May 09, 2015, 10:39:05
awesomely ergonomic and comfy looking on your wrist when you do a left or right hand turn

looks like you would need extra wrist joint
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on May 09, 2015, 10:42:49
Because of the bend angle?  It's exactly the same angle as the Pro Tapers I just took off of it.  They're just more narrow. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Maritime on May 09, 2015, 10:48:24
Idk I have been riding a bunch of motorcycles over the last 2-3 days and my GL with the lowest bars I ride the farthest hurts my wrist and hands the soonest. I am re-thinking my bar choice or at least my grips.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on May 09, 2015, 10:49:37
Headlight is a good turn, brings normalcy haah... Bars are like riser clipons typical sportbike ride position with better reach... turning "around" and backing out of parking spots is always a pain with limited stop to stop radius it's a trade off for some cool factor. put a tank bag on and you have a nice pillow for longer hauls  :o
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on May 09, 2015, 10:57:03
I agree.  The bars were won in a raffle at Meltdown, so free and figure worth a look.  I'm definitely looking for a more comfortable ride, much more like what a bigger XL would bring.  The Pro Tapers just seem HUGE.  I have Renthals on the XL that have a lower profile.  What I think will happen is the Pro Tapers with the higher angle will go on the XL and the Renthals will end up here.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Ellwood on May 09, 2015, 12:18:05
I just put a set of Renthal ultra lows on my big bike. Pulled them back a bit and I have comfort plus a little down turn. Going to have to put a turn stop on to keep from hitting the tank but I like the feel and look. There are some guys turning them upside down and they look really good but my tank is just to long for my arms to reach nice. Check out CRD #59 to see the upside down version.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on May 09, 2015, 12:19:41
No way in hell I do Renthals upside down.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Ellwood on May 09, 2015, 12:22:55
On a big bike it was like clip ons...kinda reminded me of Hyde Mbars...need a set of risers to clear the tree. Ended up right side up myself to feel right. About an inch or so longer than the bars I took off.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on May 09, 2015, 14:23:08
A little musical handlebars:  Renthals from XL to CB750, Pro Tapers to XL. A better deal for both...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on May 24, 2015, 01:47:45
I'm finally getting the motor back together.  Other than removing the dirt, grease and grime this motor is not going to be all polished and fancy.  I want it to run well. That is all.  Let patina be patina... well, except for the tappet cover.  I got the valves all set, a new gasket and seal kit in and we're almost ready to put it in the frame.  Just waiting on the 6mm allen screws to get shipped to bolt the tappet cover down.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on May 24, 2015, 07:08:10
Looking good.  I really enjoy watching 750 builds.  The engine just looks massive in the pics.  I suppose its all relative, as compared to the  100 im currently staring at.

I want it to run well. That is all.  Let patina be patina.

thats my motto.   :)
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: cxman on May 24, 2015, 08:49:17
nice job
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on May 24, 2015, 23:56:04
I spent most of the day putting the front end back on my Roadrunner.  I have to say, straightening the front end of that behemoth has been hard work.  Makes the motorcycles seem so minute.  Graduation was on Saturday, so now I only have 3 in-service days this week and it's on to summer vacation.  The 7fitty and the Roadrunner get all of the attention.  Barring any financial hurdles, I want the 7fitty on the road by the Fourth of July.  That is my goal.   

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One strange thing that happened though, if you look at the valve cover in the pic, you'll notice two tappet covers missing.  Somehow, those two tappet cover threads seized and broke off.  They stayed fused inside the threads of the valve cover, almost at though they were epoxied or welded in, rendering this cover useless.  Fortunately, Mr E has a spare.  I have no idea why this would happen.  It wasn't cross threaded.  Not sure if it's a warpage/heat/expansion deal or what.  Since it's a bike received in pieces, I'm blind to much of its history.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on May 25, 2015, 10:54:15
Nice!  Makes me itchy to get started on my Mustang (again)

Bad! about the head cover.

Good!  About E having one for ya.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Mr.E on May 25, 2015, 21:01:22
They came off nice and easy! But that's been a couple years ago too. Who knows... That's why god created spare parts piles
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on May 25, 2015, 21:13:46
They came off nice and easy! But that's been a couple years ago too. Who knows... That's why god created spare parts piles
I think it was grit.  I should've wire brushed the hole threads first.  I'm pretty confident in that. 
Title: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jun 02, 2015, 14:51:53
Got the rear brake lash up sorted....

The stock actuator lined up too far inward for a disc brake actuator...
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So, I bent it...

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I fabbed up some mounting plates for the Kawi actuator and a GSXR reservoir...

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Got it all mounted up and good to ...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Jun 02, 2015, 15:56:49
sweet lash bro  8)
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Jun 02, 2015, 15:58:02
i have a cbx pedal/lever which is ultra cool forged aluminum mite go good there
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jun 02, 2015, 16:07:30
i have a cbx pedal/lever which is ultra cool forged aluminum mite go good there
7fitty spline is 17mm.  Exposed shaft length is 32mm.  Length of the lever from the center of the spline to the end of the pedal is 25cm. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jun 21, 2015, 02:47:09
Been a few weeks- summer vacation began and I tend to rake in all the other streams of revenue during this time.  Working in Columbia, SC about an hour and a half away has kept me from the ride.  Not to mention the Square Body Freakalene. 

Anyhoo, I needed some progress so the motor got dropped in.  I'm ready to get this thing running...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Jun 21, 2015, 08:04:59
 8)
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: WhyNot on Jun 21, 2015, 09:02:47
Looking good.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Jun 21, 2015, 13:00:07
7fitty spline is 17mm.  Exposed shaft length is 32mm.  Length of the lever from the center of the spline to the end of the pedal is 25cm.
check again i just finished breaking a 75 750 and it is 19mm spline  same as the CBX and the CBX lever is only an inch longer
and your bike looks fantastic  :) ......don't know what you got planeed for a tailight but i have a prune craite full of diff shape/sizes of red lenses glass and plastick
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jun 21, 2015, 15:41:31
check again i just finished breaking a 75 750 and it is 19mm spline  same as the CBX and the CBX lever is only an inch longer
and your bike looks fantastic  :) ......don't know what you got planeed for a tailight but i have a prune craite full of diff shape/sizes of red lenses glass and plastick
Thanks, man.  It's definitely 17mm.  Not sure if there were multiple spindle options.  I think the Hondamatics had a more curved arm. 

As far as tail light, I haven't figured that out yet.  I thought about a 70's era Corvette light, but not so sure any more. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jun 21, 2015, 15:48:46
The motor is officially bolted in.

Something I like to use for bumps for the seat is well nuts.

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Weld some bolts to the frame and thread them on...

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Also, I hinged the tail...
(Still need to sort out the mount for the back of the tank)

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jun 23, 2015, 22:19:22
Front caliper situation isn't working out as easily as I'd hoped.. I suspect KZ750s must've run a closer to 12" disc or something. I've tried two different brackets and front and back and two different discs.

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Finally, I said screw it and ordered a double piston caliper from a '09 GS500 on eBay.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: canyoncarver on Jun 24, 2015, 00:11:21
Putting the tail section on a hinge is very cool.  That whole tail section is a beauty.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jun 24, 2015, 00:15:17
Putting the tail section on a hinge is very cool.  That whole tail section is a beauty.
Thanks, man.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jun 27, 2015, 19:45:39
Fabbed a bracket to mount the GS500 caliper...

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There are now 5 bikes in this 7fitty. We are full on Frankenstein. Somebody cue Edgar Winter.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Jun 27, 2015, 19:53:42
duh dut du du duh dut dut duhh du dut du duh duhh.  To the tune of Edgar Winters' Frankenstein.

nice work bro.

Here on campus "Engineering Open House (EOH)" in the spring they do a night time outdoor show w a HUGE tesla coil featuring Frankenstein.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Ellwood on Jun 27, 2015, 19:54:22
It's a Frankenmiller
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: cxman on Jun 28, 2015, 08:24:54
you did awesome on that bracket

it does look like a dual piston honda gl650 or cb650 or even a 82 cb900 custom bracket would be just what you needed

the fork lower looks "about ":  the same
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: cervix a lot on Jul 01, 2015, 18:25:13
Hey again, this may be a request way out of left field but any chance you igh be able to take a few pictures of the underside of your tank? I don't know if you remember but I am the guy who is also trying to fit a 500 tank on a 77 cb750 and I just want to get a bit of a better understanding of where to start "massaging" the tank haha. Love where your build is headed btw.

Cheers!
Andrew
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jul 05, 2015, 02:46:10
Yeah, baby. 4 into 1 is my jam.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jul 05, 2015, 05:06:03
Went to an awesome pick and pull near my parents and pulled a cargo light from an '89 Ford Ranger pickup. Polished up the lens a bit with toothpaste, trimmed about a quarter inch off its profile and now I have. a tail light. My intention is to put two yellow LEDs for turn signals and one red in the center for a brake/running light...

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Also picked up an SR500 fender from MrE. It works nicely as a fender, mud guard doomaflotchee here.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jul 05, 2015, 15:22:00
I got the SR fender roughed out for the oil bag and the seat base.

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Welded a couple of mounting tabs to the fender and a tab on the frame from a VT fender. I never throw shit away, even random tabs I cut off of things.

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/05/eceb0926d77739f84b85e1c23d2c105a.jpg)

Got the fender mounted a bit up in the frame and somewhat hidden away.

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/05/cff5194e8cbea8971675bd9f936f292e.jpg)

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jul 05, 2015, 17:18:48
Dang man... your a metal molding sob eh :o
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jul 05, 2015, 22:07:29
Now that the fender is shaped, time to smooth it back out...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jul 05, 2015, 22:12:02

Hey again, this may be a request way out of left field but any chance you igh be able to take a few pictures of the underside of your tank? I don't know if you remember but I am the guy who is also trying to fit a 500 tank on a 77 cb750 and I just want to get a bit of a better understanding of where to start "massaging" the tank haha. Love where your build is headed btw.

Cheers!
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Those three spots and spread the lip a bit at the seat.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: cervix a lot on Jul 05, 2015, 22:16:38
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Those three spots and spread the lip a bit at the seat.


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you are awesome! thanks so much!
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jul 05, 2015, 22:31:22
No problem.

Here is a front fender I'm considering. This is either SR or XS... I think.  There are a couple of creases at the front that need smoothed if I choose to use it. I'm thinking it may be a little long, though...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Ellwood on Jul 07, 2015, 04:26:42
Maybe a tad long but it would work great in low speed rain the way it is. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jul 10, 2015, 00:29:27
Tail light time...

Got the LEDs in- 2 amber 1 red.

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Cut the locking flange off the stock light base and holed it to fit the red bulb.
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Shaped a piece of plexi to fit behind the lens face and to hold the turn signals.

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Mounted in the housing with a cork gasket.

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And remounted on the bike.

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I need a battery. Just realized all the ones I have here are dead.  Harness needs installed too.



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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: canyoncarver on Jul 10, 2015, 01:01:05
Very cool tail light man. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jul 10, 2015, 08:05:51
Awesome... reminds me of my 87 ranger  ;D where are the lights from? I have some that are neat like that but wicked harsh if pointed at yer iye  :o
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jul 10, 2015, 08:13:38
Awesome... reminds me of my 87 ranger  ;D where are the lights from? I have some that are neat like that but wicked harsh if pointed at yer iye  :o
They're from Oznium.  http://www.oznium.com/led-bolt (http://www.oznium.com/led-bolt) They work really well as turn signals.  I wouldn't say they are harsh, but plenty bright to be seen by cages.  They should get diffused a bit by the housing.   I suppose I could go with that tinted look that's all the rage around these parts.  ;D I used a 16mm set with lenses on my CB360 for rear turn signals.  These lack those domed lenses, but they're still waterproof. 

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jul 10, 2015, 08:25:09
They're are from Oznium.  http://www.oznium.com/led-bolt (http://www.oznium.com/led-bolt) They work really well as turn signals.  I wouldn't say they are harsh, but plenty bright to be seen by cages.  They should get diffused a bit by the housing.   I suppose I could go with that tinted look that's all the rage around these parts.  ;D I used a 16mm set with lenses on my CB360 for rear turn signals.  These lack those domed lenses, but they're still waterproof. 

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Gonna have to give em a try, thanks for the link. the smoky look is a good idea for sure if it works with paint and style... or mask it and do red/amber (color mixed with clear paint), it works like a charm and if you paint a black pinstripe to break them up it really pops.
Title: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jul 10, 2015, 17:27:23
So I have a decision to make. Do I decide that the single front disc and rear disc is enough braking power, or do I go with the dual disc front end setup? With the SR caliper now mounted, I have a complete front end- front and rear discs mounted on the right side. I'll need to get the necessary digs to go dual.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jul 10, 2015, 18:20:09
If the bracket you made works on the dual lash up, I would duplicate and go dual.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jul 10, 2015, 18:27:40
It would require about a 4mm shim on the bolts.  Strangely, the dual disc wheel is narrower.  I'll need to add a shim on the axle as well.  The single disc is from a KZ650 and the dual disc is from a GPZ550. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Ellwood on Jul 15, 2015, 18:29:33
I have dual front single rear disks on a vintage 500 pounder + my 200 pound self... Stops good for an old bike but not anything to write home about. Still get a little pucker if something sneaks up on me.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jul 16, 2015, 08:53:13
I have dual front single rear disks on a vintage 500 pounder + my 200 pound self... Stops good for an old bike but not anything to write home about. Still get a little pucker if something sneaks up on me.
What's the bore size on the M/C?  You may not be pushing enough for the dual discs.  It should be at least 16mm.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Ellwood on Jul 16, 2015, 09:57:21
All factory vintage brimbo... You should've felt them before I put stainless brake lines on. Master Cylinder is under the tank on the old airhead.  Probably not pushing what I could... I guess now I am comparing them to my new bike. The cb350 was the worst with the drums. But a wing is a heavy bike especially in the rain and going into a tight corner... But they say they really handle well.
Title: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jul 20, 2015, 11:37:09
Did a little cleaning to test out an aluminum boat hull cleaner on the motor. Spray-sit-rinse. Wiped the chrome, bodywork  and brake discs with phosphoric acid... Not too bad. I have no interest in a pristine polished and painted motor. Just clean. A little patina is good.

Before...
 
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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jul 20, 2015, 13:54:01
Worked pretty good, but you aren't really gonna leave it like that... are you ;) If you don't plan to do any motor work, I would pull the cam chain tensioner  and make sure its free, I have had many that are froze and you think when you loosen the release it springs forward but actually does nadda mang... Just a heads up if you weren't already aware.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jul 20, 2015, 13:58:26
Worked pretty good, but you aren't really gonna leave it like that... are you ;) If you don't plan to do any motor work, I would pull the cam chain tensioner  and make sure its free, I have had many that are froze and you think when you loosen the release it springs forward but actually does nadda mang... Just a heads up if you weren't already aware.
Thanks, man.  Yeah, it's had head work done to it.  All the valve seated, heads shaved, resealed etc.  Tensioner has been fiddled with, it was off when I got the motor. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Jul 20, 2015, 22:38:40
I like the aged finish on engine as it is in the pic.  but, who the hell am I ?

Shes really looking like a beast dude, lovin it.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jul 21, 2015, 17:32:11
Shimmed the front sprocket. Converting from 630 to 520.  Volkswagen Bug pulley shims are the perfect size.  25mm ID. Next up: I need to research the best way to move the rear sprocket out. Basically, the outside of the rear sprocket lines up with the inside of the front sprocket.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jul 21, 2015, 18:53:17
This may be spendy but correct to get to 520 and use the stock hardware:
http://cognitomoto.com/collections/engine/products/17-tooth-sprocket-520-chain-for-cb750-cb550-cb500t-1
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jul 21, 2015, 19:02:56
This may be spendy but correct to get to 520 and use the stock hardware:
http://cognitomoto.com/collections/engine/products/17-tooth-sprocket-520-chain-for-cb750-cb550-cb500t-1
I suppose I can look at a combo of that sprocket and shimming the rear sprocket.  I need to make up 11mm.  The inside of the rear sprocket lines up exactly with the case.  I need to figure out minimum clearance for the chain between to the sprocket and the case.  Reading the KZ forums (since there are no offset rears sprockets for KZ or GPZ and this is a GPZ rear) guys shim the rear and replace the studs with longer grade 8 allen bolts.  I say this assuming 11mm is too much to make up with shimming the entire rear wheel.

Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: cxman on Jul 21, 2015, 19:47:05
i used devins 10mm offset sprocket on my 73 cb750 to line up the mags i am using
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jul 21, 2015, 19:49:09
i used devins 10mm offset sprocket on my 73 cb750 to line up the mags i am using
My shaft has the threaded center, so it doesn't use the retainer.  Can this sprocket still be used?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: WhyNot on Jul 21, 2015, 19:56:46
Dayyyyyum.... Eric......your garage must be air conditioned, or you're just oblivious to heat.

It was 104 degrees out today, and in my garage, it's 119. And that's as I type this message.

Hell, I can barely stand to go to the frig out there to get a beer.

But....all in all....hope you figure out the sprockets. Just one question .....why convert to the 520 chain?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jul 21, 2015, 20:09:59
Dayyyyyum.... Eric......your garage must be air conditioned, or you're just oblivious to heat.

It was 104 degrees out today, and in my garage, it's 119. And that's as I type this message.

Hell, I can barely stand to go to the frig out there to get a beer.

But....all in all....hope you figure out the sprockets. Just one question .....why convert to the 520 chain?
I have an a/c in there, but it doesn't really do a lot when it's this bad.  I opened the door and worked for about 30 minutes.  No more than that.  I really is hot as hell right now.  The 520 is less bulky.  It also seems easier to convert the front sprocket to 520 than the rear to 630.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: jetmechmarty on Jul 21, 2015, 20:17:21
A little over 60 days to XS Southeast.  Git R dun!

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: cxman on Jul 21, 2015, 20:56:45
today i installed a bigger ac unit in the shop

Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jul 21, 2015, 22:16:44
My shaft has the threaded center, so it doesn't use the retainer.  Can this sprocket still be used?

I would think so, the spline is the same, I can measure the thickness of mine in the fall when hell leaves my shop  ;) or in the morning :o
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Jul 21, 2015, 23:08:18
for the offset rear you can gain some by making a stacked offset out of 2 sprockets but it really requires a lathe to make it a clean lash with minimum weight.what does the rear hub use as a center for the sprocket ? if you move it 11 will it still be on the centering register ?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jul 21, 2015, 23:54:09
I flipped the shims to the outside, which gets me to sprocket width- 9mm. Those Cognito Moto offsets go the wrong way. I need to move 9mm in, but there is only 8mm between the sprocket and the case.
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for the offset rear you can gain some by making a stacked offset out of 2 sprockets but it really requires a lathe to make it a clean lash with minimum weight.what does the rear hub use as a center for the sprocket ? if you move it 11 will it still be on the centering register ?

No room on the centering register unless the hub can be sleeved to extend the register.  I have 11mm from the face of the sprocket to the edge of the hub and 20mm to the swing arm.
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Are you saying to weld the two together and machine it down? I assume that would require it to be hardened again.



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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Jul 22, 2015, 00:07:13
As far as hardened rear sprockets go...

this may be totally F-ed up information.  But havent I read once that some have aluminum or even PLASTIC rear sprockets.  Maybe Im just trying to take you out  ;)   ...but I think Ive read that.  On the "internet".
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jul 22, 2015, 00:13:59
As far as hardened rear sprockets go...

this may be totally F-ed up information.  But havent I read once that some have aluminum or even PLASTIC rear sprockets.  Maybe Im just trying to take you out  ;)   ...but I think Ive read that.  On the "internet".
In order to weld hardened steel, you have to temper it.  Which then would require you to re-harden it. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Jul 22, 2015, 05:11:22
the rear steel oem sprockets are not hardened ,yes weld 2 together but do it with minimum overlap 1/8'' per side is plenty then put some nice even skip welds in the inside and outside natural fillets that are present.you could even do it with a hf wire pusher but after initial tackup preheat the fuck out of it for good welds
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Jul 22, 2015, 05:31:12
lokking at your rear sprocket just now that spoked style is a natural for a non machined method of  overlap offset.this will have more overlap than what you can do by machining shit. 3/8'' overlap would doit.could be done with a cutting torch or even a hacksaw,4'' grider with slitting discs just ,voila, the trick part is getting and maintaing concentricity,this can be dun before cutting by bolt the 2 sprocket together(you could use the sprocket bolt holes but need to verify stacked concentricity) use a drill press drilling and then reaming to size would be best bet,you really want dam near dowel pin precision in the fit ,but you can play with your bit selection on a srap and try to find drill that steps up from generous pilot hole size to a good fit,  one small thru bolt in each spoke as alignment  bolts,3/16 bolts would be fine they can be center puch located by eye they need not be precisely clocked or precisily concentric jut remenmber they will only fit back together properly clocled to each other
where you drill these alignment holes will be in the center of overlap zone
so that bolting the spockets together again for welding is an accurate deel no question
when you cut the sprockets just do the cut one side or the other of the alignment hoales
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jul 22, 2015, 23:09:39
Looks like cogmoto has a spacer too"
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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jul 22, 2015, 23:13:30
Ha.  It's too bad my rear end is from a 1982 GPZ750.  ;)
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jul 22, 2015, 23:24:49
All Cognito's stuff is basically to run wider tires.  I'm trying to mate parts from 5 different manufacturers onto one Frankenstein bike. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jul 22, 2015, 23:53:04
Ha.  It's too bad my rear end is from a 1982 GPZ750.  ;)

Ahhh shit yeah that's right, well back to XB's point then, if the hub is concentric to the sprocket and you have some extra poking out of the sprocket, you could put the donor on with some holes and plug weld/tack it then heat it up and weld it with more plug welds then just chuck it up and face cut off what you don't need. yeah no??
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jul 24, 2015, 15:48:28
Well, this was supposed to be the summer to ride it but I just keep nitpicking away.  I was hired to restore the exterior of a 1921 Chicago-style bungalow which has consumed the majority of my summer off.  Gotta pay for these habits. 

Today was the first rain day in over a month, so I took the day off and made some progress. I've been meaning to adapt the rear hoop to my current design. The bike was set up for a different seat before I got it. I notched the tubing and pushed it up to allow the fender to push through the frame and hang from the hoop. I modded a fender bracket from an XL to hook it up. I also altered the battery holder to lift it about an inch giving clearance for the Yammi fender.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Aug 02, 2015, 02:42:04
Cleaned and rebuilt the carbs. Nothin' fancy, no polish... Just clean and hopefully functional.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Aug 02, 2015, 09:24:25
damned skippy bro.   ;)
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Aug 03, 2015, 22:45:00
GPZ 750 front fender

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It was just wide enough for the KZ750 front end to be annoying, so I drilled out the rivets to separate the plastic fender from the fork brace. Put the brace in a vice to squeeze out a few mm's, flattened the top of it to keep the rivet holes aligned, re-rivet and install.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Aug 04, 2015, 03:06:42
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Hand controls

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Nightly visitors

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Polished up the front fender. Turns out, it has a great yellow metallic paint job. If I can remove what looks like primer, I may keep it.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Aug 04, 2015, 05:05:49
goddam spiders i been moving 2 shops into one and the goddam spiders are ever where  :(  throwin' down bundles of thousands of babies at a time   :-[ :-X :'(
the bike is looking nicely be sure you got near full lever travel near that throttil housing
i got one those fenders in red somwhere round here, it is a pleasent design
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Aug 04, 2015, 08:19:23
I like the yellow, looks hot rod... whats up with the spiders this year, I got em X10 in the house and shop :o
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: canyoncarver on Aug 04, 2015, 12:50:19
Yeah man, fender looks right.     For spiders, I keep a long handled bbq lighter around for those little bastards. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: WhyNot on Aug 04, 2015, 12:52:59
I like spiders.........they keep squeeters in check.

Dayyyum Eric, where you keep finding all these parts around here in Augusta?

Fender looks cool. May have to give one a try on my 750.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Aug 04, 2015, 13:18:08
Did you use the rivet gun that was in the Apache parts bin?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Aug 04, 2015, 13:26:00

Did you use the rivet gun that was in the Apache parts bin?
Why yes, yes I did use the rivet gun that came with the Apache.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Aug 04, 2015, 13:27:07
Ha. At least the Apache was good for something.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Aug 04, 2015, 13:27:53

I like spiders.........they keep squeeters in check.

Dayyyum Eric, where you keep finding all these parts around here in Augusta?

Fender looks cool. May have to give one a try on my 750.
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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Aug 04, 2015, 13:28:44

Ha. At least the Apache was good for something.
Its good for camping too. If I ever replace that lift chain. Ha.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Aug 24, 2015, 17:17:50
If anyone is listening, I've finished mounting the GS caliper. However, with the current setup the inside pad is sitting .660 mm off the disc.  I assume the pads will wear unevenly, but is this too much of a gap?  I can't find any information that references any gap tolerance. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Aug 24, 2015, 17:34:27
If anyone is listening, I've finished mounting the GS caliper. However, with the current setup the inside pad is sitting .660 mm off the disc.  I assume the pads will wear unevenly, but is this too much of a gap?  I can't find any information that references any gap tolerance.

Seems like it will be grabby... Can you shim the pad with an extra backing plate(s)
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Aug 24, 2015, 21:46:08
If anyone is listening, I've finished mounting the GS caliper. However, with the current setup the inside pad is sitting .660 mm off the disc.  I assume the pads will wear unevenly, but is this too much of a gap?  I can't find any information that references any gap tolerance.
the caliper should algin itsefl on the sliders if a lonley piston... if life pitsons that is widdin  .025",the life pistons are con-stant-lee self center ,itslike magic i doan sea no ishoe neather way
WTF TIME WASTER WTFTW !!!!!!!  NEXT QUESTION PLEASE
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Aug 24, 2015, 22:25:56
 ;D
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Aug 24, 2015, 22:53:27
WTF TIME WASTER WTFTW !!!!!!!  NEXT QUESTION PLEASE
That chick in your avatar is hot, but why the fuck can't she wire a bike so that it doesn't leave her pushing in the desert? 

HA! Just makin' sure. It was pointed out by someone that I expected knew what they were talking about.  WTFDPTTKIA? 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Aug 24, 2015, 22:56:40
shes more a doll, then a chick , check the gas dumby.... get it ?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Aug 24, 2015, 23:06:52
depends on how tite the lashing is
Title: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Aug 30, 2015, 02:25:53
Old sprocket to the left, new one to the right. Still trying to decide if I want to cut the cogs off one and weld it to the other to make an offset sprocket  or have a shim made.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Aug 30, 2015, 05:56:21
Dude you are talking about a very VERY precise welding job.
 
If its off center, any at all.  your chain adjustment will be a nightmare. 

You will have to spin that thing several times to find the tightest spot and adjust chain to that.  If you adjust chain when it happens to be at the loose spot...it will stress crack and snap that chain.

I would atleast try shims first.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Aug 30, 2015, 08:56:02
Dude you are talking about a very VERY precise welding job.
 
If its off center, any at all.  your chain adjustment will be a nightmare. 

You will have to spin that thing several times to find the tightest spot and adjust chain to that.  If you adjust chain when it happens to be at the loose spot...it will stress crack and snap that chain.

I would atleast try shims first.
Getting it center won't be hard.  It's just a matter of having 3 - 5 tight fitting pins that tie the two together. The stock sprocket has a center hole tolerance too.  It's about .5mm larger than the carrier and the bolts are not a tight fit.  So, it's not necessarily truly center.  What your suggesting would take being several mil off.  I've got much better craftsmanship than that. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Aug 30, 2015, 09:09:57
See there I learned something.  Very good then...do it, do it, just do it.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Aug 30, 2015, 09:17:32
See there I learned something.  Very good then...do it, do it, just do it.
Ha.  That said, I had already contacted Mr E before I posted last night to see about the sleeve.  ;)  There's a company in Virginia that sells metric tubing of 72mm ID x 80mm OD (exactly what I need), but that's buying and shipping 3m of tubing from Virginia.  Ain't gonna happen.  I only need 9mm.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: cxman on Aug 30, 2015, 09:24:19
eric have you tried metal supermarket

they may have a chunk somewhere in there system

i buy metric tubing from metric metal all the time i can also ask if they will cut me a sample piece

if the have a small piece around they may do it
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Aug 30, 2015, 09:24:55
a local machine shop could turn that out.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Aug 30, 2015, 09:26:13
Yes, Mr E Machining.   :o  I've got a $50 Suzuki roller and some CB750 parts to pick up from him this weekend.

Thanks, Murray.  I'll call Metal Superstore.  A cutoff would be great.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Aug 30, 2015, 09:38:20
I guess I missed something.  If Mr E can make one...just pay him to make one and quite messing around w trying to buy one.
Title: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Sep 05, 2015, 20:10:04
Got Mr E to do some machining on the rear sprocket and carrier. We cut a stock GPZ sprocket down to make a spacer. Then he machined the draft out of the hub on the carrier. We figured out that the cast on these are nowhere near perfectly concentric. After machining, it is now. He also machined a sleeve to extend the shoulder and accept the offset. New 630 sprocket to match the stock 7fitty.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Maritime on Sep 05, 2015, 20:18:56
Nice work eric and E
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Sep 05, 2015, 21:27:44
Hells to the yes bro!  great work guys.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: canyoncarver on Sep 05, 2015, 22:46:30
Got Mr E to do some machining on the rear sprocket and carrier. We cut a stock GPZ sprocket down to make a spacer. Then he machined the draft out of the hub on the carrier. We figured out that the cast on these are nowhere near perfectly concentric. After machining, it is now. He also machined a sleeve to extend the shoulder and accept the offset. New 630 sprocket to match the stock 7fitty.




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Very slick.  Nice solution!
One big step closer to Vroom.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: CALfeRacer on Sep 05, 2015, 22:51:42
How'd you guys set up the carrier in the lathe? Looking at taking a few mil off of a sprocket carrier for a future project and wasn't sure of the best way to get it in the lathe.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Sep 05, 2015, 23:43:12
Not an ounce of giveup here... bravo gents :o
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Sep 06, 2015, 00:00:06
How'd you guys set up the carrier in the lathe? Looking at taking a few mil off of a sprocket carrier for a future project and wasn't sure of the best way to get it in the lathe.
Spread the jaws from the inside.  The fins on the carrier fit nicely to the outside of his chuck.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Sep 06, 2015, 00:49:32
just remember to and or learn yourself to use the method of a long bolt or allthread is pertfect clear thru the headstock to help a great great deal in securing esp large diameter pieces so trhey dont jump out of the chuck,od shaped pieces can be machined out near their major dia with the confidence that an delicate grip by the jaws alone wont fail nothing worse than a part like a sprocket carrier,sprocket,maybe a mag flywheel to be grabbed by a nivices mistake like a hooked tool to low on center for instance.it can get real ugly real quick.shit happens so fast shit get broke all to fuck and if anybody is in the shop or watching its like how you feel in that dream that  you went out buck naked one day all day... i have on occasion hit the brake and barely saved a spit out part .and all this is why it is extremely good practice to use a draw bar on anything with a decent diameter to turn...another method,many times when dealing with a part like a wheel hub or even a complete wheel and say you want to true up the brake drum well you make a spud, an arbor  or better yet a " mandrel" is more correcter tirminoligy,that goes into your 3 jaw and tuned to a have a shouder to contac faces,the draw bar bolt thru the headstock holdes the spud dead nuts tight and secure up against the jaw faces as well of the jaws clamping then you can then turn the spud to mimic a wheel bearing (including the corner radius,but maybe a thou under,it neednt be a press fit..you m,ake it long enough so it gets pulled tight and seated just as a wheel bearing.you drilled and tapped the spud all the way thru so the draw bar holds the spd the a shotr bolt holds the part onto the spud
you turned the spud to be same as a bearing and it is automatically dead nuts zero concentric so you dont even mess with the jaws or nuthin cause the hub will spin prettier than yer first gooey girlfriend.and you can drill a center hole in the spud bolt head as a final step so you can get even more safer and secure.not for novice machinists but you can bolt in a 4x4 10" long say oak wood chunk with the drawbar and good contact with the chuck jaws faces.well then you can turn that wood down to be a nice tailstock pushing fit and machine a fresh cylinder base or the head gasket surface such as we used to do to hotswas that have an integral head in order to tighten up the squish
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Sep 07, 2015, 15:25:50
Sprocket installed with just a couple of mil to spare. Bolts ground to about 48mm. I may go with low profile nuts and take it down about 3mm more.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Sep 07, 2015, 16:26:50
Im thinkin yes, thinner nuts.  Is that 2mm w the axel tight?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Sep 07, 2015, 16:38:19
Everything is tight, ready for the chain.  I'm confident clearance is plenty on the nuts and bolts as it is.  The sprocket and wheel are true.  The gap at the pinch in the swing arm is the biggest concern and there is even more clearance there.  I have 5mm high nuts coming in from McMaster as a second option to these I already had on hand.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Sep 07, 2015, 16:43:06
Just sayin, I want to see you in Kentucky next spring...thats all.  ;)  Its only cause I care.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Sep 07, 2015, 19:54:41
Everything is tight, ready for the chain.  I'm confident clearance is plenty on the nuts and bolts as it is.  The sprocket and wheel are true.  The gap at the pinch in the swing arm is the biggest concern and there is even more clearance there.  I have 5mm high nuts coming in from McMaster as a second option to these I already had on hand.

Shunt flex that much unless your planning to launch it with sticky tires on hot asphalt  :o
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Sep 07, 2015, 20:00:23
Shunt flex that much unless your planning to launch it with sticky tires on hot asphalt  :o

Pretty much how he rides everything, all the time.   ;)
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Sep 07, 2015, 20:08:15
Pretty much how he rides everything, all the time.   ;)

Nice! WFO till the gas runs out :o
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Sep 08, 2015, 01:06:06
looks fine the carrier could get worn and sloppy and stll it wont move that much. i never liked those lock tabs you dont need them or a washer ,loctite and you can get more clearance or a thicker nut .thinner nut is a poor choice in this type of application as the assembly relies on a highly torqued fastener to get the non slip grip of the mating surfaces the bolt in just shear is not how it is designed to work it is the friction of the mating surfaces
other methods  :thin the sprocket in the lathe in the zone of the nuts or spot face countersink at the nuts
one way to see how much room there is is to put it up on the centestand and while spinning the wheel get your finger real close for reference  :-X
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Sep 09, 2015, 18:30:20
2003 Ninja controls

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Redbird on Sep 09, 2015, 22:06:42
I remember when you picked her up from E, but somehow missed the build thread.
All caught up now though  ;)

Sick stuff Dude. Cant wait to see her in person.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Sep 09, 2015, 22:09:19
I remember when you picked her up from E, but somehow missed the build thread.
All caught up now though  ;)

Sick stuff Dude. Cant wait to see her in person.
Thanks a bunch, Redbird.  Hoping to have it running for Barber.  It's expected to get knocked over in Kiley's yard. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Redbird on Sep 09, 2015, 22:20:27
I was hoping you'd say that. Lookin forward to seeing her and you.
And I wouldn't worry about it getting knocked over. Tom will only be there in spirit ;) :P
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Maritime on Sep 09, 2015, 23:09:13
E can put stickers on it for you, my wing won't be there for that.
Title: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Sep 15, 2015, 14:26:23
Small little update: it's getting into the nickel and dime stage. Installed a new clutch cable and the Randakk oil filter mod. Plus a Wix filter, to complete the proper setup.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Sep 15, 2015, 14:31:26
Small little update: it's getting into the nickel and dime stage. Installed a new clutch cable and the Randakk oil filter mod. Plus a Wix filter, to complete the proper setup.

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I sourced a similar conversion tapped for an oil cooler, seems the Harley filters cross the emgo that came with mine. May try a test with the thing plugged then with the cooler after a break in run.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: DohcBikes on Sep 15, 2015, 15:17:15
Phew, it was a bit of work to just read the build. Could have made it a bit harder on yourself couldn't ya? Jeez.

Excellent solutions to your hybrid issues. Great head down attitude! The bike is shaping up to show these qualities. It's gonna be a keeper.

If I have one general suggestion on the build it is to stop placing deadlines onn it. I understand it can create motivation, but it can also be daunting. Builds like this take the proverbial "as long as it takes", and there's nothing you can do to change it. The shakedown runs may prove to show some areas that need addressed, and patience will continue to be a virtue.

In your pic of the sprocket bolt clearance, your axle is not tight yet and you will lose at least another 1mm of room when it is. XB has an excellent suggestion with gaining clearance through lock tab removal. Torque and threadlock is more than sufficient in a non race application.

Did you partially fill your filter with oil before you installed it?

Up to date and on board, looking amazing so far.

P.S. the gs500 front brake is going onn my hybrid as well. Great choice, easily adaptable twin pot caliper.

Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Sep 15, 2015, 15:52:13

Did you partially fill your filter with oil before you installed it?
Yep. I learned that a long time ago with my cars. 

I appreciate the words and advice. It means a lot.  As far as deadlines, I'm an artist and a teacher, so hard deadlines are my MO. However, I came to the realization this weekend that this bike will be finished when it wants to be.  Sound advise and you're absolutely right.  I've practically collected an 8' x 10' of parts from this build alone, as the third part I buy ends up being the one that works.  I'm not in it for the money, so there is no need to stress the deadlines or shipping times.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Sep 15, 2015, 16:33:18
If you get back 1/2 to 2/3rds of cost it's still cheaper than a therapist ???
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: WhyNot on Sep 15, 2015, 20:58:52
If you get back 1/2 to 2/3rds of cost it's still cheaper than a therapist ???

And the money it's gonna cost to rename GRU, again......thank goodness, it's been voted upon.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Sep 15, 2015, 21:09:44

And the money it's gonna cost to rename GRU, again......thank goodness, it's been voted upon.
And all those people that were pissed and wanted it to say Augusta State are not happy it'll be called Augusta University.  People are dumb. Ash works at GRU. She just laughs because all of their billing is still MCG, but their pay checks and bennies are GR Health.  Some stuff is printed as MCG DBA (doing business as) GR Health.  I guess now it'll have to be Augusta University Formally MCG DBA GR Health.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: WhyNot on Sep 15, 2015, 21:31:20
And all those people that were pissed and wanted it to say Augusta State are not happy it'll be called Augusta University.  People are dumb. Ash works at GRU. She just laughs because all of their billing is still MCG, but their pay checks and bennies are GR Health.  Some stuff is printed as MCG DBA (doing business as) GR Health.  I guess now it'll have to be Augusta University Formally MCG DBA GR Health.


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Agreed.


Good thing I'm retarded.....uhhhh....retired United States Army, and don't really have to rely on that place.

Eisenhower Army Medical Center works just fine for me.

Although, it's a great medical center, don't get me wrong. Occasionally EAMC sends me there for certain procedures.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: canyoncarver on Sep 15, 2015, 22:54:29
TMA.  Too many acronyms.
Title: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Sep 19, 2015, 14:26:53
Another small update:

Located the front turn signals:

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Made a template for the dash:

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Got the primer or whatever off the front fender with some acetone. That made the decision to match this yellow.

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Mounted the tires and balanced the rims. Avon Roadrider up front/Metzeler Lasertrac in the rear. Stock GPZ750 sizes.

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Now I need to locate these Accel Supercoils. They have some girth and don't fit so well in the CB500 tunnel.

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Title: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Sep 19, 2015, 19:22:42
Maybe someone has some insight on the design of this tailpiece, if it's been modded (it appears so). A repack is in the works:

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Maritime on Sep 19, 2015, 23:26:05
Love the yellow.  Glad you are going with it.  Nice dash piece and the metzeler should be a good tire.
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Post by: irk miller on Sep 20, 2015, 02:07:57
Looks like I'll be able to fit the coils in the frame under the tank after all. I removed the brackets they were previously mounted with. I'll need to make a bracket that keeps them together and mounts top or bottom. No room on the outside of the coils.

Got it off the center stand to see where we are:

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: WhyNot on Sep 20, 2015, 08:24:21
^^^^^^^dayyyyum^^^^^^^^^

Eric, that bike is looking better with every post.

Good job.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Sep 20, 2015, 09:59:32
Thing is gonna be a fun ride man, but Slow down mang... I spent all day hiding wire yesterday, got the pipe on and found I welded the back section a bit inbound so the can wont work (yours if you want it) so just take some advice... check and recheck  :o :o
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Sep 20, 2015, 10:20:20
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Title: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Sep 20, 2015, 10:45:02
Thing is gonna be a fun ride man, but Slow down mang... I spent all day hiding wire yesterday, got the pipe on and found I welded the back section a bit inbound so the can wont work (yours if you want it) so just take some advice... check and recheck  :o :o
Which can?  Yeah, I installed the stock Supersport 4-into-1. The bracket on the can lines up with where I installed the Ninja m/c. Gotta figure out where or if I've got the place for the hanger.

 Those Uni's look solid. I went with the stock box for now. The caveat- I had and earlier model K box, so my carbs need the larger boots. Opened the holes up with a burr bit and installed new boots.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: canyoncarver on Sep 20, 2015, 17:45:39
What kind of seat are you figuring?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Sep 20, 2015, 18:55:12
Seat? I need a seat? 


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: canyoncarver on Sep 20, 2015, 22:58:02
Seat? I need a seat? 


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Yep..well no, never mind.  Looking good - is it done yet?
Title: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Sep 20, 2015, 23:03:33
Yep..well no, never mind.  Looking good - is it done yet?
Ha. I haven't quite figured out how I want to do the seat, honestly.  Mostly, I need to figure out how much up the tail section it should go, or if at all. I'm kind of avoiding it until last minute under the assumption I can go with the black high density stuff guys use on the race bikes until I figure it out.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Sep 21, 2015, 07:23:14
Barber or bust.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Sep 21, 2015, 08:19:35
can
Title: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Sep 27, 2015, 04:35:21
Hooking up this caddy with a cherry dash, toggle switches for start and off/run/off, three led dummy lights, and a marine 12v outlet for charging the iphone while underway. I'm going gaugeless (considering a fork mounted mini-tach) on this ride except when I run a gps speedo app on the phone.  A Ram Mount is on the way...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Sep 27, 2015, 04:39:41
can
How much iz dis?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Sep 27, 2015, 18:29:16
Something like this...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: john83 on Sep 29, 2015, 05:22:33
That'll do.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Maritime on Sep 29, 2015, 10:31:14
I like that.  You can use that for all your bikes  and not need tobuy any.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Sep 29, 2015, 10:53:35
Rain? Not to burst the cool factor bubble of using the apple for a gauge, but my $600 I6 wont work after a good shower :o

RE "can" You buy the stamp, I will get better pictures to see if you really want it, I tried indenting the backside a little to force the issue but quit when I realized it was not working.
Title: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Sep 29, 2015, 10:55:18
Rain? Not to burst the cool factor bubble of using the apple for a gauge, but my $600 I6 wont work after a good shower :o

RE "can" You buy the stamp, I will get better pictures to see if you really want it, I tried indenting the backside a little to force the issue but quit when I realized it was not working.
I use a Lifeproof Nuud kayaking. It's no larger than a regular case and is sealed with gaskets to keep the water out. It's been put to the test and works well.

http://www.lifeproof.com/en-us/iphone-5-5s/nuud-for-iphone-5-5s-case/lpnu-apl-iph5-5s.html (http://www.lifeproof.com/en-us/iphone-5-5s/nuud-for-iphone-5-5s-case/lpnu-apl-iph5-5s.html)


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Sep 29, 2015, 11:06:27
I use a Lifeproof Nuud kayaking. It's no larger than a regular case and is sealed with gaskets to keep the water out. It's been put to the test and works well.

http://www.lifeproof.com/en-us/iphone-5-5s/nuud-for-iphone-5-5s-case/lpnu-apl-iph5-5s.html (http://www.lifeproof.com/en-us/iphone-5-5s/nuud-for-iphone-5-5s-case/lpnu-apl-iph5-5s.html)


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Now thats cool, never knew such a case existed... Little spendy but fir hunting and fishing it's a good idea, now just needs to float and put out a signal to find it in the lake :o
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Post by: irk miller on Sep 29, 2015, 11:09:15

Now thats cool, never knew such a case existed... Little spendy but fir hunting and fishing it's a good idea, now just needs to float and put out a signal to find it in the lake :o
Dont pay too much attention to their msrp. I payed $35 for mine.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Sep 30, 2015, 22:18:40
I hate this part...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Sep 30, 2015, 22:31:00
Just walk away when necessary ;D
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Ellwood on Sep 30, 2015, 22:54:20
Yea. These pictures and my memory make those motogadget systems tempting. With my crap 12v electronic skill the $330 seams almost worth it. Did sparckmoto ever get his box up and running?


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Sep 30, 2015, 23:03:09
Not yet. I thought about starting from scratch, but I can't get drunk enough for that.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Oct 01, 2015, 10:37:33
Done yet?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Oct 01, 2015, 10:38:28
Done yet?
Dude!
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Powderfinger on Oct 01, 2015, 11:32:32
There are a lot of wiring diagrams online but if you haven't checked out this one give it a look, You can turn on/off whatever section you want to view at any given time. Makes it easy to go through getting one thing at a time up and running. This is for a K1 but I think he has other models also.

http://oldmanhonda.com/MC/wiring750K1.html
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Oct 01, 2015, 12:24:44
There are a lot of wiring diagrams online but if you haven't checked out this one give it a look, You can turn on/off whatever section you want to view at any given time. Makes it easy to go through getting one thing at a time up and running. This is for a K1 but I think he has other models also.

http://oldmanhonda.com/MC/wiring750K1.html
This is rad.  I went there on my iPad and it didnt work.  Now I know why.  Thanks.  Don't get me wrong, it's not that wiring is difficult or that I can't do it.  It's a chore. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Oct 03, 2015, 19:36:55
Took me a few hours to figure out which wiring diagram (of the three I have) to use.  Then I had to get passed being retarded (check for continuity, stupid) with my toggle switches.  I finally have the harness sorted.  I hope to make fire tonight or tomorrow morning.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Oct 03, 2015, 20:18:02
Good show man, now hit it.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: WhyNot on Oct 04, 2015, 09:00:27
Dayyyyyum Eric...........you're a genius, just genius
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Oct 04, 2015, 12:32:19
Thanks, Bud.  We'll see if I actually get this thing to run.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: WhyNot on Oct 04, 2015, 14:10:56
you will......confidence.........bro.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Oct 04, 2015, 14:18:45
Give it the old college try.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Oct 04, 2015, 22:38:45
Got it all wired up.  Compression check and static timing done.  Oddly, the only way to time the Dyna S was to flip the plate and reverse the yellow and blue wires.  It contradicts the wiring diagram I'm using, but it timed.  Put my XL tank on it to attempt the first start up.  Gas pours out of the #4 carb.  Tapped the carb and tried again.  Gas pours out of the #2 carb.  Tapped all four carbs, no more overflow.  Ignition and first attempt to start.  Wa wa wa wa wa ... nothing.  A little bit of ether- started right up and died right away.  Adjusted all the carbs to 1.5 turns.  Still wont start without ether, now it idles for about 20 or 30 seconds seconds, but only 3 cylinders.  I think the carbs are sticky and clogged.  I'm going to pull them apart again and run guitar string through the idle jets and check the pump circuit.  I'll also run through all of the valves to make sure I have them right. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: DohcBikes on Oct 04, 2015, 22:42:28
All I heard was that it runs.

Fuck yeah!!

Now be vigilant and comprehensive.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Oct 04, 2015, 22:44:32
All I heard was that it runs.

Fuck yeah!!

Now be vigilant and comprehensive.

If you dump gas on it and toss  match and run does that count??
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Oct 06, 2015, 01:56:55
Cut the bracket off of a spare XL frame and welded it here, with this beautiful rusty-as-fuck XL kickstand.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Oct 06, 2015, 07:46:30
"with this beautiful rusty-as-fuck XL kickstand."


#functionnotart #Motherfucker
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Oct 06, 2015, 08:07:29

#functionnotart #Motherfucker

Ha. #notfallingoverinkileysyard


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Oct 06, 2015, 08:12:02
The rust of the kickstand really complements the gold of the chain.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Oct 08, 2015, 13:44:26
Still not running without ether.  Plugs are getting wet, so I'm thinking it's flooding somehow.  I can get it to run for a short time, 10 seconds or so, then it dies.  I set the floats at 12.5mm, which is what I've found to be the number through online searching. However, that seams way too high.  I'm going to reset them to where the top of the float is level to the carb body.  It works for Holley, it's been suggested it works here.  Someone also suggest closing three float valves, hooking a tube to the fuel inlet, then blowing through the tube while opening and closing the fourth float to see where is should be set. 


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It has also been suggested that the idle circuit is clogged and fuel is bypassing the idle circuit.  Fuel looks as though it's blowing out of one of the venturi ports (#2 or #3) on the inlet side of the carb.  #2 is the idle circuit, #3 the main.  At least two of them definitely seem wet.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: DohcBikes on Oct 08, 2015, 14:39:49
The general rule if there aver was one for these carbs is that floats should be adjusted so the metal tab that holds the actual floats is parralell with the bowl gasket surface. If you adjust them as you described you may be too low.

12.5 does sound really high, i dont know the spec off the top of my head but ill look just for funnsies today.

Do you have your accel pumps adjusted properly? Are you giving the bike throttle immediately?

Plugs are getting wet, yes it is flooding. This could certainly be due to an extremely high float or mis adjusted accel pumps. Generally a bike that wants to idle on the main does not flood, it just revs when throttle is applied.

I gotta go back and read again but it runs. Tuning for dummies: If you change or clean something and it runs better, do more of that. If you change something and it runs worse, do less or the opposite of that.   




Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Oct 08, 2015, 16:07:40
It aint gonna run until I remove the hex ::)
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Oct 09, 2015, 07:41:06
Your hex doesn't touch me, holmes.  :P

I got the bike running and idling pretty well yesterday.  Still starting on ether.  After a couple of minutes of running, oil starts pouring out of the bottom of the head underneath the #2 header. Shut it down. Fuck.

I pulled an all-nighter; dropped the motor to see what was happening. I figured out 4 bolts at the front of the head were barely torqued.  Just color me stupid.  put it back together, into the frame, and now the bikes together.  This time I stole the choke cable and mechanism I got for my truck, installed it, put a little charge on the battery, and this bitch fired up. No ether. Pure gas.  It's not perfect, but it fucking runs. Now I at least have a baseline to tune it. 

I also need a goddamn 20mm x 1.00 petcock, so I can use the tank meant for it.

Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Oct 09, 2015, 08:19:46
Your hex doesn't touch me, holmes.  :P

I got the bike running and idling pretty well yesterday.  Still starting on ether.  After a couple of minutes of running, oil starts pouring out of the bottom of the head underneath the #2 header. Shut it down. Fuck.

I pulled an all-nighter; dropped the motor to see what was happening. I figured out 4 bolts at the front of the head were barely torqued.  Just color me stupid.  put it back together, into the frame, and now the bikes together.  This time I stole the choke cable and mechanism I got for my truck, installed it, put a little charge on the battery, and this bitch fired up. No ether. Pure gas.  It's not perfect, but it fucking runs. Now I at least have a baseline to tune it. 

I also need a goddamn 20mm x 1.00 petcock, so I can use the tank meant for it.

Which tank, I have a few CB750 petcocks
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Oct 09, 2015, 08:21:00
Which tank, I have a few CB750 petcocks
I have a CB500F tank on it.  The one with the kneed dents. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Oct 09, 2015, 08:24:42
YEEHAW!  WORK-BOY.  Good job.  Looks like Kiley posted he may have one for ya, on standby.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Oct 09, 2015, 08:47:50
Cocks what I think your calling 20mm I have both down and left outlet and the other is standard 750 I would caution the little one because of fuel starvation (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/09/047135fafdebf17e146ecb9ef9311ced.jpg)


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Oct 09, 2015, 08:50:37
Can need to finish drilling the cap bolts out (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/09/c161c75ace2f6fd905857786e49e7e2a.jpg)(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/09/5f5e3b2bf21ce90dfba32139af093c05.jpg)(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/09/fcac12770348063e336eba48bf607180.jpg)(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/09/d32008b9822b8e67b5082416cbab6ba5.jpg)


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Oct 09, 2015, 08:57:42
Looking closely, you can bore the petcock or "hone" it to open it up 1/4 a mm or so just clean up the flow to increase rate.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: john83 on Oct 10, 2015, 13:57:34
http://4into1.com/fuel-valves/
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Oct 10, 2015, 16:53:40
Knock Knock Knock Eric Knock Knock Knock Eric Knock Knock Knock Eric
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Oct 10, 2015, 17:01:39
Knock Knock Knock Eric Knock Knock Knock Eric Knock Knock Knock Eric

hes at Barber festival now.  So, probably wont hear much out of him.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: DohcBikes on Oct 10, 2015, 17:02:15
Pretty sure he's at barber.

Ha whoops posted same time
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Oct 10, 2015, 17:12:07
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/10/d6cd39f912d98fd9c83c21405a9ec060.jpg)

Yep, I'm at Barber. Got it running with a 400f petcock. It fits just over top of the air box.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: DohcBikes on Oct 10, 2015, 17:30:47
Totally dig the Bonanza. Classy rig.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Oct 10, 2015, 18:07:59

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/10/d6cd39f912d98fd9c83c21405a9ec060.jpg)

Yep, I'm at Barber. Got it running with a 400f petcock. It fits just over top of the air box.


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Well then have a good time, I'm jelin!!


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Oct 10, 2015, 22:31:47
that is fantastic and looks it to  ;D ;D ;D yeah im as jealous, as the last dog in a heat line
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Oct 11, 2015, 15:53:05
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/11/c620f399ca968f7e9657a6c3595c8ca9.jpg)

The bike officially made it to Barber on its own power. It took a weekend of fixing this and tightening that, but the bike made it.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Oct 11, 2015, 19:28:20
That is so awesome.   8)
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: clem on Oct 11, 2015, 20:00:17
Yep, looks like the best weather was today.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Oct 11, 2015, 23:26:37
Totally dig the Bonanza. Classy rig.
  Thanks, man.  Third generation owner. Bought by my great uncle in '79, then to my dad, now to me.  I love a box chevy.


No doubt, Clem.  Hate to say it, brother, but today was cool and sunny.  I thought we did well overall though, even with Friday being hot as hell and rain that night.

Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: clem on Oct 11, 2015, 23:37:10
Haha, we'll if it took me leaving on Sunday morning for the sky to clear then I guess I made a sacrifice for the team.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Oct 17, 2015, 01:32:02
Two running/tail lights separate from brake, and thumb screws to lock the seat...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Flugtechnik on Oct 18, 2015, 09:55:35

The bike officially made it to Barber on its own power. It took a weekend of fixing this and tightening that, but the bike made it.


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Ha!  I remember at one point in the weekend I looked over, your bike was laying on it's side and someone was attacking it with a cordless drill. I thought, "only Eric......" 

Glad she made it.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Oct 18, 2015, 09:59:19
Ha!


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Redbird on Oct 22, 2015, 19:01:41
We gave it some "Go-Go Juice" ;)

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Title: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Oct 23, 2015, 00:37:13
Despite that geaux juice, I've managed to keep it running. I've gone through half the harness finding faults. I'm beginning to wonder if an old harness should just get trashed every time.
Regardless of my lack of paint, I'm putting miles the bike anyway.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: DohcBikes on Oct 23, 2015, 01:42:21
Hooligan. All the way.

Fuck paint. If I did that metalwork I'd leave that shit bare for a while too. Let em know.
Title: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Oct 23, 2015, 19:42:18
Well just because this bike wants to fuck with me, I have figured out that there's something drawing juice somewhere it ain't supposed to. The stator is also in question. I'll test it tonight when I get a charge. I got to work and back today, but the bike sat at 7v when I got home. It seemed to hold on the way to work though.  There was a point where I said I would wire it from scratch, but I didn't. I may be regretting that now.  This could all be the Dyna pulling all the juice and the stator not keeping up. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Oct 23, 2015, 19:45:10
Hey everybody...Lets watch deviant make this bike his bitch!
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Oct 23, 2015, 22:52:02
Turns out the white exciter wire on the brand fucking new reg/rec is dead.  Nothing to the stator, so nothing coming out.  I tested the stator good.  Still haven't checked the rotor, but it looks like the reg/rec is at least most of the problem.  Nothing like a brand new part going bad to make you look at everything else when something goes wrong.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Oct 23, 2015, 23:23:03
who's regulator rectum finder? I was able to get one from Sparky Moto for a great price. I ran mine on the Sun tune and it jumps around some at idle but charges 14 at around 2k and above 12 at 1500
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Oct 24, 2015, 00:38:03
It's a Sparck. Could be a bad unit. Could be I blew it. I'm leaning toward the latter.  Just to finish the checks, I got 7.7 ohms on the field coil. All good. My reg/rec is toast.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Oct 24, 2015, 09:00:48
It's a Sparck. Could be a bad unit. Could be I blew it. I'm leaning toward the latter.  Just to finish the checks, I got 7.7 ohms on the field coil. All good. My reg/rec is toast.


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I have a few around from other bikes, I'm not schooled in the reg/rec guts, but I wonder if they are pretty generic and as long as it is 12V has 3 yellows a white and a black or 5 wires of common sense yer good to "try" it out??
Title: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Oct 24, 2015, 09:55:56
I have a stock regulator that I plugged in to test. The rectifier side tested out good. As soon as I'm charged up, we'll see how this stock reg does. These are 7 wires- also with a green ground. A friend pointed me to a cheapo China jawn that's like $12 on eBay.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Oct 24, 2015, 18:38:06
Back to the stock rectifier and regulator makes bike go.  We'll live with that for a bit, until the new one comes in:
$14.99 ain't so bad if it works.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181909473361?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/181909473361?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Nov 05, 2015, 01:14:44
A new fuse panel- blade style

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A new clutch

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: DohcBikes on Nov 05, 2015, 09:34:35
Clutch basket looks kinda rough, any notching in the 'fingers'? If mild you can file them but if more than mild it is safer to replace it. Just curious while its out there.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Nov 05, 2015, 09:50:48
Clutch basket looks kinda rough, any notching in the 'fingers'? If mild you can file them but if more than mild it is safer to replace it. Just curious while its out there.
Clutch basket is smooth except for an even patina of rust.  It's mostly coloration on the surface.  Maybe I should pull it and go over with a phosphoric etch.  The clutch discs were basically dried out and brittle, so a few miles in and the top four disintegrated.  They spread a ring of disc material onto the inside of the basket.  I'm thinking they must've sat without oil for a period of time to dry out the way they did.  The rust coating suggests the same.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Nov 05, 2015, 10:59:25
Steel baskets are less prone to the saw tooth, but the rust would hinder action some so yeah a little dust off would be good.
Title: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Dec 08, 2015, 19:23:02
Just in case you aren't confused enough; or if you thought for a second this thing is anywhere near completion...

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Mo better tank

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Dec 08, 2015, 19:24:01
I'm beginning to see a pattern :D
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: great white on Dec 10, 2015, 23:37:18
Hmmm, is it a Hondaha or a Yamada?

 ;D
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Dec 10, 2015, 23:45:37
Hondayamakawizuki
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Mr.E on Dec 12, 2015, 12:18:55
Give it a month or two, and another marque will be added to the pile.  #frankenbikesforever
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Dec 12, 2015, 20:18:33
Devious 1000 is good :o
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Dec 13, 2015, 14:24:00
Final fit for tank and seat. Time for body and paint... Finally.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Dec 13, 2015, 16:03:21
That silhouette says it all, gonna be epic. Will you do the motor up also?


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Dec 13, 2015, 16:11:26
That silhouette says it all, gonna be epic. Will you do the motor up also?


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  Everything.  I'm taking it all apart this winter. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Dec 13, 2015, 16:12:08
Nice!


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Dec 13, 2015, 21:38:08
(http://paintref.com/graphics/chip/chrysler_1970_plymouth_ppg_c_01.jpg)

1970
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Dec 13, 2015, 21:38:57
(http://carrosantigos.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/2007_11_03_barracuda_04.jpg)

1964
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Dec 13, 2015, 21:42:36
Well I think Lemon Twist is pretty obvious.

Shes really lookin super bubba.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Dec 13, 2015, 22:02:03
(http://carrosantigos.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/2007_11_03_barracuda_04.jpg)

1964

My brother had a royal red 65
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Dec 16, 2015, 15:06:15
The Yamaha petcock mounting location lined up right over the carbs, so I had to devise another way...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Dec 16, 2015, 18:55:54
thats the way eyed doit  ;)
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: WhyNot on Dec 16, 2015, 19:42:38
cool...................
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Dec 18, 2015, 00:48:50
The GPZ fender, every other stock fender really, didn't quite fit. So, I'm trying my hands at my own. A sort of mini version of the other GPZ style...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Dec 18, 2015, 08:49:39
you sure your not a politician ;D
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Dec 18, 2015, 08:51:33
you sure your not a politician ;D
Ha.  You'll have to explain that one to me, homey. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Dec 18, 2015, 09:14:45
Ha.  You'll have to explain that one to me, homey.

Flop Flip. How many bikes you pandering to this week? :P
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Dec 18, 2015, 09:17:51
Flop Flip. How many bikes you pandering to this week? :P
Ha.  I should've known.  Two, but maybe three if I decide to fuck with the dirt bike frankenstein XRM-t 250 thing.  It's Xmas vacation time.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Dec 19, 2015, 10:16:11
Started shaping up a fork brace fender mount doohickey...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Dec 19, 2015, 11:29:01
hay nice work !@ i aint sayin you shoont bang out a finder from scratch but i gotta free one or two steel that you might cander too... the one is a sweet shape harley belive it or knot , its actually like new ...pay shipping and a cupl cups o coffee
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Dec 19, 2015, 11:31:04
hay nice work !@ i aint sayin you shoont bang out a finder from scratch but i gotta free one or two steel that you might cander too... the one is a sweet shape harley belive it or knot , its actually like new ...pay shipping and a cupl cups o coffee
I need to find out how much for those Konis and a front end, too.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Dec 19, 2015, 11:33:20
which front end agin ?  :-X
Title: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Dec 19, 2015, 14:47:14
Should look like this. I just need to figure out how to spice up the design of the brace...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Dec 22, 2015, 18:39:48
Changed some stuff- finished and mounted the fender, and moved the turn signals out of the fairing.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Maritime on Dec 22, 2015, 20:05:41
Nice work
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Dec 24, 2015, 01:38:32
I haven't been too keen on the sheer mass of the super sport muffler, so I cut up some random Yamaha jawn...

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I scavenged the Yamaha's pipe and dumped the huge ass hot water heater. Then I welded that together with a cut-up Vance & Hines pack.  This may or may not work well.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: WhyNot on Dec 24, 2015, 07:50:39
As I said in the past Eric, you're a very talented man.

Looking good.

Been out riding in this warm azz rainy weather yet? Geesh, you'd think it was summertime around here.

But, it's gonna hit hard when it does....I think.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: canyoncarver on Dec 24, 2015, 12:56:03
Badass pipe setup now man!
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 05, 2016, 22:13:13
(http://i.imgur.com/PMEujV1.gif)
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jan 09, 2016, 20:15:20
Starting to coat bare metal.  I couldn't bring myself to disassemble the motor for paint. I'm perfectly content with a clean, bare aluminum  engine as long as the fucker runs right...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: DohcBikes on Jan 09, 2016, 21:01:36
I couldn't bring myself to disassemble the motor for paint. I'm perfectly content with a clean, bare aluminum  engine as long as the fucker runs right...
God I hope a bunch of youngsters read this
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: WhyNot on Jan 09, 2016, 21:11:32
Eric, you gonna ride this to Henderson?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jan 09, 2016, 21:30:45
Eric, you gonna ride this to Henderson?
I'll bring it, but truck it.  I'll most likely have a truckload of stuff going up for trade.  You going?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Maritime on Jan 09, 2016, 21:57:14
Yes sir don't fucking break it if it don't need fixing.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Ply318ci on Jan 09, 2016, 23:10:29

God I hope a bunch of youngsters read this

I read it and I feel the same way, also I am lazy. . In reality, my bikes will get ridden rain and sun, and I don't want to spend hours repolishing shiny bits when the next day they will just get dirty again.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: WhyNot on Jan 10, 2016, 09:00:06
I'll bring it, but truck it.  I'll most likely have a truckload of stuff going up for trade.  You going?

Planning on it.

I really want to ride the 750, but, not sure I can make it there and back.

It's still sitting here with the carbs spread out on the bench.

Wondering if riding the Harley would be appropriate.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jan 10, 2016, 09:53:56
Planning on it.

I really want to ride the 750, but, not sure I can make it there and back.

It's still sitting here with the carbs spread out on the bench.

Wondering if riding the Harley would be appropriate.
Canyoncarver rode his Harley at Barber and no one peed on it.  You'll be safe.  If you were to ride the 750 and something happens, you'll have a support vehicle.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: DohcBikes on Jan 10, 2016, 10:03:14
You are joking right?

That's the third time I've seen a reference to bikes being pissed on at a DTT gathering.

Are there actually people there that would risk being beaten or killed to piss on a bike?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jan 10, 2016, 10:07:35
You are joking right?

That's the third time I've seen a reference to bikes being pissed on at barber.

Are there actually people there that would risk being besten or killed to piss on a bike?
Ha.  No.  It's a reference to a past event.  There was a parts trade that included a half-ass built snot welded XS hardtail frame.  During the partying, someone pissed on it.  It's become a joke for unfinished or mongrel bikes, including this one. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: DohcBikes on Jan 10, 2016, 10:09:02
Ok thank you for taking the time to explain.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: WhyNot on Jan 10, 2016, 11:58:07
Ha ha....I wasn't worried.............. :o
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Hurco550 on Jan 10, 2016, 19:48:17
Starting to coat bare metal.  I couldn't bring myself to disassemble the motor for paint. I'm perfectly content with a clean, bare aluminum  engine as long as the fucker runs right...

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Getting my Avons mounted tomorrow. Is that how the tread direction is supposed to be on the front? I was assuming it went the other way.  Not being smart, i promise, real question lol
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jan 10, 2016, 19:50:34
Getting my Avons mounted tomorrow. Is that how the tread direction is supposed to be on the front? I was assuming it went the other way.  Not being smart, i promise, real question lol
Ha.  Yes.  The tread will be the other way if it's mounted on the back.  There should be arrows on the sidewall to let you know.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Hurco550 on Jan 10, 2016, 19:55:28
Didn't look for an arrow yet haha I just thought it looked bakerds in my head
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jan 11, 2016, 00:42:55
Got it pretty much ready to wire...

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Then I took these apart...

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I shut it down after a few hundred miles when things got strange and it quit tuning....

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Weird...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: WhyNot on Jan 11, 2016, 06:45:44
^^^^^^^^^^^^^wow^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

purdy rough on the carbs eh? ? ? ? ? ?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 11, 2016, 08:29:07
Likely a defect from factory, you just got lucky  ::)
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Jan 11, 2016, 08:50:41
how did you get a hammer in there ?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Redbird on Jan 12, 2016, 17:12:34
Canyoncarver rode his Harley at Barber and no one peed on it...
...that he knows of ;)
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: canyoncarver on Jan 12, 2016, 17:29:32
...that he knows of ;)


Haha.....Redbird I'm gonna keep my eye on you. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: clem on Jan 12, 2016, 18:05:02
That Harley would be the one doing the peeing.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: WhyNot on Jan 12, 2016, 18:11:40
Don't think so.......54,000 miles and not a drop on the garage floor. Or any other place for that matter.

Will keep a close eye on it if I'm able to make the trip.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jan 16, 2016, 22:01:09
Frame is coated and it's going back together. I'm finishing up the body work on the fairing, seat and tail- stripping the tank.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: DohcBikes on Jan 17, 2016, 01:08:34
explain your picture and what it means to you in 50 words or less. Due by Sunday afternoon
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jan 17, 2016, 08:44:57
explain your picture and what it means to you in 50 words or less. Due by Sunday afternoon
Dash and fairing mount.  Almost finished.  Beer.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 17, 2016, 09:43:42
Euro sport style...  I can digit  ;)
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jan 17, 2016, 09:53:17
Another view. In case I didn't show this before, I installed a marine USB outlet for my phone and one other device.  I'm mounting the phone in a Ram mount and using it for speedo.  I have another single plug outlet to switch out.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: DohcBikes on Jan 17, 2016, 09:58:05
I can digit  ;)
Oh my word, isnt he clever :-*

I like it.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 17, 2016, 10:07:42
Okay music man... you need a soundbite of a helicopter spooling up and a real good micro speaker, old mp3 player and some way to auto replay. Hit the toggle and the loud copter spool sound comes on.... then when it hits that turbo whine... hit the ignition and with a nice fat bark from the pipe... Top Gun shit mang!! 

Really like that dash panel  :o
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: cxman on Jan 17, 2016, 10:22:24
screw the sound byte

here is the real deal

around 400  hp

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Garrett-GTCP660-4-Aircraft-APU-Jet-Turbine-Engine-/231640549225

all you have to do is figure how to throttle it and stuff it in

Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 17, 2016, 11:05:40
screw the sound byte

here is the real deal

around 400  hp

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Garrett-GTCP660-4-Aircraft-APU-Jet-Turbine-Engine-/231640549225

all you have to do is figure how to throttle it and stuff it in

That would be a sweet leaf blower  :o
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 17, 2016, 11:11:16
He He

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiuRP_9CJZ4
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jan 18, 2016, 12:33:39
Maybe I should murder this thing out...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: DohcBikes on Jan 18, 2016, 12:35:02
Gucci Hydrodip
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jan 18, 2016, 12:36:26
Haha. A girl I went to high school with has a biz that does that. I could get a deal.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: canyoncarver on Jan 18, 2016, 14:43:49
As long as it's not Hello Kitty....
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Redbird on Jan 19, 2016, 17:24:43
Murder it out in Black Leather and go with this...
(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/vialfmly/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_8065_zpspmtngjgv.jpg)

(and I actually own that shirt ;))
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jan 19, 2016, 17:54:42
Ha!!


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: john83 on Jan 19, 2016, 19:03:56
That would be a sweet leaf blower  :o

Or an insanely expensive heater for the shop.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: cxman on Jan 19, 2016, 20:52:01
ahh wait a few days you will all want one just to melt snow

Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jan 23, 2016, 01:18:45
Cut out the seat pad shape from Kydex sheet. It cuts really easily with shears or side cutters. I lay it onto the seat pan and hit it with the heat gun. As soon as it starts to get a sheen, it'll sag into the shape of the pan. I spritzed it with a water bottle to cool quickly.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jan 23, 2016, 01:20:12
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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 23, 2016, 10:32:21
Yeah, with some ribs for strength is see this as a really nice alternative to all that glass and goo
Title: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jan 24, 2016, 02:31:02
Nothing fancy, just a set of carbs and the stock bread box.  The major dysfunctions during shakedown ended up being a broken needle in the #3 hole and a sticky enricher rod. Back and forth with carb cleaner and WD-40 with lots of throttle action smoothed everything out with the enricher. Nothing sticks, and everything snaps back as it should. A needle from a spare set of carbs did the rest.

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Maybe I'll figure out how to dress up the air box. Maybe  a new one.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 24, 2016, 09:57:15
What are the numbers? Main Pilot Needle Turns etc... I cant get the Keyholes to work and as bad as it is I worked hard to get those clean and just like the LOOK  :-[
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jan 24, 2016, 10:36:32
What are the numbers? Main Pilot Needle Turns etc... I cant get the Keyholes to work and as bad as it is I worked hard to get those clean and just like the LOOK  :-[
I'll keep you posted as I figure this out, too.  No wiring yet, so nothing is fired up.  I adjusted the slides by visual measurement in hopes I have a baseline to begin.  I set them all at the same level.  I'm stock everywhere on the jets (105), nothing is changed.   I have a feeling I'll end up going up to 110 or 115.    D432 on the needle.  Pilot is also stock.  I just sprayed it through until I had a nice stream.  I've been told a bunch, and I've read as much, that the pilot and enricher circuit are notorious issues on these carbs to those who don't know better.  I hope I'm good.  The 77's pilots are press fit, unlike the rest of the years.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 24, 2016, 10:55:39
Cool beans... Press fit pilots I have (hard to get new) and don't have any trouble changing,  I went bigger when I should of went smaller I guess... only would idle with 1/2 turn out.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jan 24, 2016, 11:05:27
The other thing I have going on is a redo on the exhaust.  I pulled the 750f exhaust baffle off and put on a modified Vance&Hines.  I hope the V&H balances the carb situation.  It should be more restrictive than the 750f, especially since the PO of that baffle opened it up more than stock. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 24, 2016, 11:26:50
The other thing I have going on is a redo on the exhaust.  I pulled the 750f exhaust baffle off and put on a modified Vance&Hines.  I hope the V&H balances the carb situation.  It should be more restrictive than the 750f, especially since the PO of that baffle opened it up more than stock.

My pipe has a baffle  ;D
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Weasel on Jan 24, 2016, 11:42:48
Excellent. It's nice having an extra set of parts handy to harvest from. The previous owner I bought my latest project from included an extra motor with carbs. Came in handy while cleaning the carbs and finding a pilot screw with no spring.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jan 24, 2016, 23:33:15
Still working on the craftsmanship, but the Kydex base is upholstered...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: trek97 on Jan 25, 2016, 00:04:12
Some very cool stuff you're doing bro.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jan 25, 2016, 00:06:35
Some very cool stuff you're doing bro.
Thanks, homey. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Jan 25, 2016, 00:41:27
So now you sew yer own seats too... Nice!!
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Jan 25, 2016, 09:33:20
Very nice, man!
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Maritime on Jan 25, 2016, 09:40:57
Nice work, what did you use for the comfort part? I find closed cell foam from kneeling pads is pretty good for comfort and thickness.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jan 25, 2016, 09:46:37
I layered a 1/2" layer of closed cell foam, a 1/2" of open cell foam, a 1/2" of needle pressed cotton batting and 1/2" of felt.  I also ran one thin layer of the cotton batting down the sides to give a clean, smooth edge.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: DohcBikes on Jan 25, 2016, 09:51:16
Starting to get the vision, this will flow very nicely.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Maritime on Jan 25, 2016, 09:51:23
Nice, should do the trick. I will be redoing the GL seat and I need it to be comfortable but not huge, My wife wants me to leave the huge ass cups but I don't like the look and also don't like the way they lock you in place and you can't shift around on long rides.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jan 25, 2016, 09:55:26
Thanks, fellas.  It's not perfectly square (where the seat meets the tank), which annoys the piss out of me.  Maybe that's a reason to have a pro do it.  At the same time, it's important to me that every detail is my own mark.  It'll have to do for now.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Maritime on Jan 25, 2016, 09:59:57
My first seat cover was crap, but I left it on the GL for 4 seasons and rode it anyway, my second was much better but still has some flaws. Funny thing is the third cover I made and installed was for someone else and it turned out perfect. I hope the GL one will be as good.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jan 28, 2016, 21:28:03
Here goes nothin'

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: canyoncarver on Jan 29, 2016, 01:13:44
You'll have fun with that.  I always have to remember to use the longer shield on the positive (female) connectors.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jan 31, 2016, 13:45:32
I m just getting started on the wiring. The goal is to make it as simple and clean as I know how. Two busses, one negative and one positive will manage power. The positive bus is switched, and direct 12v from bus to coils and Dyna. Lighting and peripheries will be fused.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Sonreir on Jan 31, 2016, 13:57:20
Lookin' good.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Maritime on Jan 31, 2016, 15:27:25
Sweet, wiring is zen or hell. Depending on the day lol
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jan 31, 2016, 21:27:21
Halfway there...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Habanero52 on Feb 01, 2016, 12:40:06
I like the simplicity.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Feb 02, 2016, 01:10:34
hay you know wiring has smoke inside,under varying pressure and flow  :-[, THATS HOW IT WORKS ,SMOKEdont let the smoke out is a more direct way to express what im sayin
on another note ,erik wouuldja gimme a cuple tape measures of that turd woulda ? swinger pivot to rear axel and to bottom shock mount
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Feb 02, 2016, 08:30:43
Namaste
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: john83 on Feb 02, 2016, 22:09:20
Mmmmmm...this wiring makes me happy. I'm planning on using something similar on my 550. I think that when it comes to wiring simple is better.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Feb 02, 2016, 22:27:43
devils hell koni's ,got yer devhellkonies here   8)

ooo they got perfect chrome on the shafts, bodies aint rashed neither all i gotta do is reseal 'em and replace tghe one stud bush
13.5'' eye to clevis
3.75 travel thats with the bum per half squished
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Feb 02, 2016, 22:47:19
devils hell koni's ,got yer devhellkonies here   8)

ooo they got perfect chrome on the shafts, bodies aint rashed neither all i gotta do is reseal 'em and replace tghe one stud bush
13.5'' eye to clevis
3.75 travel thats with the bum per half squished
Damn right!   8)  Those are gonna clean up nice and purty.   :-*
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Feb 02, 2016, 23:46:34
Sweet chocks mang! polish sausages with tooled flat spots  :o
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Feb 04, 2016, 04:05:39
Hondayamakawizuki
the deviants playground
sohcitoome or sohc'ditooya
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Feb 04, 2016, 08:24:11
HeHe... 750MUT
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Feb 04, 2016, 14:19:26
just go ahead and use the alloy bodied clevis jobs that you must polish brightt even from behind the iron curtain oh dear
getcha a cupl ready made clevis ball weld ons ASKA uni-balls

http://secure.chassisshop.com/partdetail/C73-440/
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(http://images.chassisshop.com/CACHE752B5C893BAF9D4A868EE21246BDECC5/600/450/approved/C73-440/C73-440_3.jpg)
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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Feb 04, 2016, 14:36:02
We need a sticky for places like that... I book marked it and emailed it to myself. Nice find.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Feb 17, 2016, 00:59:53
Pause for a public service announcement:

Aside from a few minor dings, this tank would be perfect if not for some rust. Notice the stripe of rust along the top of the side panel. The adhesive on vinyl stripes causes rust. If you're looking for a reason to have your bike hand striped (besides that it is just cool), then this should be it...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Hurco550 on Feb 17, 2016, 10:08:52
Pause for a public service announcement:

Aside from a few minor dings, this tank would be perfect if not for some rust. Notice the stripe of rust along the top of the side panel. The adhesive on vinyl stripes causes rust. If you're looking for a reason to have your bike hand striped (besides that it is just cool), then this should be it...

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you leaving it bare/ clearcoat or are you painting it?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Feb 17, 2016, 10:22:58
We'll get paint... 

Ice Blue Poly or Jamaica Blue Poly.  Or a combo of three.  My Roadrunner stock color is the Jamaica Blue.  I've considered matching that car but most likely itll get that Ice Blue...

(http://paintref.com/graphics/chip/chrysler_1970_plymouth_ppg_c_01.jpg)
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Feb 17, 2016, 10:47:51
ice ice baby

















Kinda Kawi retro
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Feb 17, 2016, 23:24:19
bah humf
lime and vitimin c
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Feb 17, 2016, 23:27:04
see, it is actually rootbeer and lime, those 2 it would look the shits giggles,thats all
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Feb 17, 2016, 23:27:11
bah humf
lime and vitimin c
I painted the XL Vitamin C.  I really do like that lime.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Feb 17, 2016, 23:38:09
its actually more half melted down rootbeer vinilla float foam,that c
 mmmmmmm floats
i dint know it was on the xl
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Feb 17, 2016, 23:39:30
Hahaha  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Feb 17, 2016, 23:45:37
 c up top triple offset rally stripes 2 one side  one the other whatever combo or size  just so they arent simetrical
then more c up underneath fighter jet sky cammo like.this will jigger the whole look making it loose a lot of weight
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Feb 17, 2016, 23:48:40
oh now i get it  ??? :-[ :-[ :-X :( :o
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Feb 17, 2016, 23:58:17
Also, waiting on shipment for a set of these Hagons that I got for cheap.  They come hardly used from a 2013 Bonneville. 

https://www.hagon-shocks.co.uk/catalog/partdetail.aspx?partno=32037TTSA (https://www.hagon-shocks.co.uk/catalog/partdetail.aspx?partno=32037TTSA)

(http://bellacorse.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/bcc-099.jpg)
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Feb 18, 2016, 00:04:44
MMMMember when A&W had fresh root beer almost like 10/40 and that cream home made style buttery ice cream for floats... I still have the little mug for coffee
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Feb 18, 2016, 00:08:34
MMMMember when A&W had fresh root beer almost like 10/40 and that cream home made style buttery ice cream for floats... I still have the little mug for coffee
My grandfather took me every week for fresh root beer when we still lived in New Baltimore, Mi during the 70s.  Some of my greatest child hood memories, right there.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Rider52 on Feb 18, 2016, 01:20:18
I had a serious addiction to A & W root beer.  I use to buy it by the jug during the summer.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Feb 18, 2016, 01:24:22
i am jonesing so hard for a float right now
a&w for floats and burger pit fer them, showferd  in the rambler it was a different planet
hey if you still want a pair of konies now is the time i am just about to do a cupl more pairs and i like to gang fk'm
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Feb 18, 2016, 10:50:10
My grandfather took me every week for fresh root beer when we still lived in New Baltimore, Mi during the 70s.  Some of my greatest child hood memories, right there.

I was born in Lansing MI Sparrow Hospital... Dad would take us for floats and hot dogs at the drive in A&W then over to the end of the runway at night, we would sit on the hood of the ole 65 Impala leaned back on the windshield as planes flew what seemed like right over us... Good times!!
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Feb 18, 2016, 20:43:14
Primer and base coat. Finishmasters didn't have 2k clear in stock til tomorrow, so color will go on then.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: canyoncarver on Feb 18, 2016, 20:44:30
It's like a whole different bike already.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Feb 19, 2016, 00:08:10
thats hawt man, you ever consider working in art ?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Feb 19, 2016, 00:09:56
Ha!
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Feb 19, 2016, 10:19:50
It's purrdy.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Feb 19, 2016, 18:33:37
Color laid. Still no clear coat...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Brodie on Feb 19, 2016, 18:49:55
Nice.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Feb 19, 2016, 19:03:48
OMG dude!


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: B541Niner on Feb 19, 2016, 19:09:21
Saweet!
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: WhyNot on Feb 19, 2016, 19:56:03
Dayyyyyyum Eric...........looks good dude......you gonna ride that thing to Hendersonville?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Feb 19, 2016, 19:58:25
Much thanks, y'all.

...you gonna ride that thing to Hendersonville?
I'll truck it to Tryon to camp out at Haircuttergirl and Mr. E's place and ride in from there.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: WhyNot on Feb 19, 2016, 20:03:29
Much thanks, y'all.
 I'll truck it to Tryon to camp out at Haircuttergirl and Mr. E's place and ride in from there.

I'm split between riding the Harley, or the CB750.

Gotta get the carbs put back on the 750 and maybe the petcock was my issue.

I have one of the tanks primed, but may not have it painted b4 then.

Wish I had a truck that would make it there and back.........

Hope she'll have room for me.....it's gonna be a last minute decision whether I go or not.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Feb 19, 2016, 20:07:21
Hope she'll have room for me.....it's gonna be a last minute decision whether I go or not.
There's a few acres, so plenty of room.  It's never a huge crowd, but just enough.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: WhyNot on Feb 19, 2016, 20:08:30
There's a few acres, so plenty of room.  It's never a huge crowd, but just enough.



Cool.......
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Feb 19, 2016, 21:20:51
ooooo that is nice, coooool like icccccce
the collar is a dead ringer for a Z1R, bub
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Feb 19, 2016, 21:51:04
Very nice, man.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Feb 19, 2016, 22:29:58
ooooo that is nice, coooool like icccccce
the collar is a dead ringer for a Z1R, bub

AKA the rolling casket. I had a black one and back in 80 it was the shizz
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Feb 19, 2016, 22:32:08
Ya know, it wasn't intentional but it's certainly appropriate.  Mine is not the same color, but it's pretty damn close.  And the pinstriping is very near what I've had in mind if I go with stripes. 

(https://motorcyclephotooftheday.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/z1r.jpg)
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Feb 19, 2016, 22:35:41
do it!! seriously baby blue and navy blue then do the seat in black with navy baseball  :o :o :o
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Feb 19, 2016, 22:37:31
By the way... that KZ is bar none the #1 Superbike of all time.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: redwillissuperman on Feb 20, 2016, 12:53:57

MMMMember when A&W had fresh root beer almost like 10/40 and that cream home made style buttery ice cream for floats... I still have the little mug for coffee

Still do....just in Canada. Still with the glass mugs (baby, mama and daddy). Xb should know that- he is in Quebec. Meant to wish him a happy Louis Riel Day last week.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Feb 20, 2016, 16:43:32
LOL

Got the clear coat down. We'll let it harden 24 hours then wet sand and polish...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Sonreir on Feb 20, 2016, 16:50:13
Beauty.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Feb 21, 2016, 12:48:30
 Polished paint...

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Waiting on a few bits to show up in the mail- shocks, fuel line wye, and a fuel cap. The seat isn't permanently installed yet, nor are rear lights.  Soon, we hit the road.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: B541Niner on Feb 21, 2016, 13:19:48
That looks great!
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Feb 21, 2016, 13:43:21
That looks great!

Looks sweet! Paint turned out nice.

Turns and tail yet? Yellow wires may need to be rethought with blue paint.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Feb 21, 2016, 13:47:37
Looks sweet! Paint turned out nice.

Turns and tail yet? Yellow wires may need to be rethought with blue paint.
Yep...

http://www.lickscycles.com/Bison-Motorsports-16-Gauge-Cotton-Cloth-Braid-Wire-p/bis-ltbwt.htm (http://www.lickscycles.com/Bison-Motorsports-16-Gauge-Cotton-Cloth-Braid-Wire-p/bis-ltbwt.htm)

or

http://www.amazon.com/ACCEL-171097-B-Blue-Spark-Plug/dp/B001OMKGCA/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1456076907&sr=8-10&keywords=blue+motorcycle+plug+wires (http://www.amazon.com/ACCEL-171097-B-Blue-Spark-Plug/dp/B001OMKGCA/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1456076907&sr=8-10&keywords=blue+motorcycle+plug+wires)

I'll get the tail lights in this afternoon after I earn back some shop time with the wife and a little Daytona 500.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Feb 21, 2016, 13:58:29
Hah! dem shoes gotta match mang!
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: canyoncarver on Feb 21, 2016, 21:21:59
Maybe some yellow pinstriping then.  Stripes, somewhere.
It's already so much prettier than the day I pushed it.   
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Feb 21, 2016, 21:28:40
(http://previews.123rf.com/images/seamartini/seamartini1411/seamartini141100210/33661461-Smiling-cartoon-striped-tropical-fish-with-blue-and-yellow-stripes-swimming-underwater-with-bubbles--Stock-Vector.jpg)
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: DohcBikes on Feb 22, 2016, 23:18:02
deviant, are you 100% happy with the paint color?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Flugtechnik on Feb 22, 2016, 23:36:07
Perhaps you should mount some frame sliders so you don't scratch that pretty paint when you lay it on its side to attack it with a drill.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Feb 23, 2016, 00:19:36
deviant, are you 100% happy with the paint color?
I'm 100% happy with the paint color.  I'm not 100% convinced it's the right color for this bike. 

Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: DohcBikes on Feb 23, 2016, 00:39:20
Just checking with the artist. Thought you might say something like that. There are lots of colors.

It think it looks great.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Feb 23, 2016, 16:24:58
Here's to nicer hips...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xulf13 on Feb 26, 2016, 16:01:03
Man, you've made this bike come a looooong way. Looks great man.
I remember how hard it was to keep this running while at Barber. I even thought you should quit trying to get the bike running. But your perseverance paid off.
I can't wait to see this with some Decals.

Question: is that front fender too close to the tire? It looks like a tight fit towards the front of the fender but fine on the back side of the fender.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Maritime on Feb 26, 2016, 16:02:33
Ha Deckals  oh he means deeecals

Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Feb 26, 2016, 16:04:52
Man, you've made this bike come a looooong way. Looks great man.
I remember how hard it was to keep this running while at Barber. I even thought you should quit trying to get the bike running. But your perseverance paid off.
I can't wait to see this with some Decals.

Question: is that front fender too close to the tire? It looks like a tight fit towards the front of the fender but fine on the back side of the fender.
Much thanks.  Yeah,  It was a goal to get the bike to Barber, finished or not.  Something between Kiley, a few others and myself.  It got there, rode from Kiley's to Barber and back under its own power, then I put about 4 more weeks of riding on it before I took it back apart for finish. 

There are plans for some hand lettering and pinstriping.  Something Kiley (Kanticoy) and I will collab on. 

The fender clears fine, but in the pic it's not square.  There's adjustment in the fender that the pic doesn't show.  It's more square now.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: B541Niner on Feb 26, 2016, 16:11:36
Looks great...always liked that color cuz of the Z1R. Had a Nova that color and was considering for my bike but you beat me to it so I have a couple others in mind.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Feb 26, 2016, 16:12:54
Looks great...always liked that color cuz of the Z1R. Had a Nova that color and was considering for my bike but you beat me to it so I have a couple others in mind.
This is a 1970 Plymouth color, so you're safe.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xulf13 on Feb 26, 2016, 18:06:19
Kiley is a great friend all around, I love getting together during Barber's vintage festival. It's a chunk of time I look forward to. You just never know what's gonna go on but can always count on the camaraderie and good time with friends that are more like family. Here is a fond memory to remember (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/02/26/8b48c301055da1dea0bf2632634a7f4d.jpg)


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Feb 26, 2016, 19:02:12
Ha! That is awesome!


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Feb 26, 2016, 19:43:32
Not too keen on how much this Dyna drains the electrical system, so we're going to do a little experiment...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Feb 26, 2016, 20:21:21
I spy 2 Deviants in here
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Feb 26, 2016, 20:24:23
I spy 2 Deviants in here
What'choo talkin' bout?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Feb 26, 2016, 20:35:21
What'choo talkin' bout?

http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1970

Both were in the recent posts
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Feb 27, 2016, 00:37:05
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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Feb 27, 2016, 08:33:56
resistors? inline with the ignition for?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Feb 27, 2016, 08:47:34
resistors? inline with the ignition for?
Diodes.  Messing around with the Dyna, we noticed they function by charging the backing plate on the hall sensor.  So at times, there is a charge in the motor to ground, even when the bike is not running, but when ignition is on.  It doesn't always matter where the magnet is.  At any point, you can pull the hall senser off the base plate, take the hall senser and touch it's backing plate anywhere on the bike, and send a spark.  The hope is that by installing the diode, it puts a "gate valve" inline to between the hall sensor and the coils, so once it sends its charge, it breaks the loop, and doesn't continue to draw through the coils.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Feb 27, 2016, 08:52:46
Oh hell thats great, do you run Dyna coils too?... must have come on that by chance? I have a DynoS on my CB so Ill be looking for results here.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Feb 27, 2016, 09:06:03
Oh hell thats great, do you run Dyna coils too?... must have come on that by chance? I have a DynoS on my CB so Ill be looking for results here.
It started with killing the cell on a relatively new battery.  So, I completely wired the bike from scratch to have a clean base to start with, then started figuring out draw in various systems in hopes to prevent it again. We all know the achilles heal on these bikes seems to start at the charging system.  Working with a friend much more knowledgeable than me, I figured out these Dynas can pull as much as 2v.  He has a perfectly running CB400f to compare with and a few spare Dynas.  So we started running experiments.  Funny thing is, when I talked with Dyna, they said I have a short in my wiring loom based on what I was describing.  Maybe I explained it wrong, or confused them, but one this is for sure- when we did the same tests on the 400f, we got the same results.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Feb 27, 2016, 09:12:22
It started with killing the cell on a relatively new battery.  So, I completely wired the bike from scratch to have a clean base to start with, then started figuring out draw in various systems in hopes to prevent it again. We all know the achilles heal on these bikes seems to start at the charging system.  Working with a friend much more knowledgeable than me, I figured out these Dynas can pull as much as 2v.  He has a perfectly running CB400f to compare with and a few spare Dynas.  So we started running experiments.  Funny thing is, when I talked with Dyna, they said I have a short in my wiring loom based on what I was describing.  Maybe I explained it wrong, or confused them, but one this is for sure- when we did the same tests on the 400f, we got the same results.

Dyna wont admit a failure unless they admit it to the public. Hope it fixes it and simply by default it will (or should) protect the system from miss wire, power surge from charge or jump start. let me know the bits when you get dialed in.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 09, 2016, 00:49:09
Fork seal popped a leak, so instead of pulling the front end I cut up a body putty squeegee, slid it between the seal and the fork tube, rotated around the fork until the black grit quit coming out. Wiped dry. Pressed up and down on the forks a few times to reseat, wiping in between. No more leak.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: jetmechmarty on Mar 12, 2016, 10:35:06
Fork seal popped a leak, so instead of pulling the front end I cut up a body putty squeegee, slid it between the seal and the fork tube, rotated around the fork until the black grit quit coming out. Wiped dry. Pressed up and down on the forks a few times to reseat, wiping in between. No more leak.

That's a great tip.  Thanks!
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Mar 12, 2016, 10:52:32
I got a pack of these: to try and it worked as this has, lots of dirt so i will do seals soon also.

(https://images.rockymountainatvmc.com/images/prod/275/m/mot_10_sea_mat_for_sea_cle.jpg)
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 12, 2016, 10:56:59

I got a pack of these: to try and it worked as this has, lots of dirt so i will do seals soon also.

(https://images.rockymountainatvmc.com/images/prod/275/m/mot_10_sea_mat_for_sea_cle.jpg)
waiting on these myself.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: DohcBikes on Mar 12, 2016, 11:00:21
sheeeeiitt fork seals hold forty thousand metric tons of pressure theres no way in hell they ever leaked, you buncha goons :P

Seriously though, never tried using that method to clear dirt and re-seal, but i will now.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Mar 12, 2016, 11:06:47
waiting on these myself.


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I got two of these freebies at a race cant remember the size but likely low 30's to 40 mm yet to try it.

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Maritime on Mar 12, 2016, 11:10:50
I putting new seals in the Gators to never have to do this I hope
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: xb33bsa on Mar 12, 2016, 13:50:28
I got a pack of these: to try and it worked as this has, lots of dirt so i will do seals soon also.

(https://images.rockymountainatvmc.com/images/prod/275/m/mot_10_sea_mat_for_sea_cle.jpg)
M8 ,dont blow yer seal !!
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 12, 2016, 13:52:52
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: yorkie350 on Mar 12, 2016, 13:56:50
They work well if you follow instructions used em all the time on my crosser even used em on my cb350f saved a lot of hassle theres a knack to it but worth the couple $$  :P :P
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 22, 2016, 12:31:08
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160227/bcf6adf076e3cefab01273f3944808df.jpg)


This diode trick didn't work.  In fact, it made the Dyna seem as though it wasn't there at all.  A little research may reveal why, but it runs like a champ now with a new Dyna and new Dyna coils, so I hardly give a fuck anymore. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Tune-A-Fishİ on Mar 22, 2016, 13:45:23
I noticed a random spark when turning the kill off and realized i had wired it from the key and direct to battery somehow causing a misfire when switched ?? after tracing it and removing the from battery connection it would not duplicate
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 22, 2016, 13:53:39
They're gate diodes, and I thought the stripe should be on the coil side.  I may have wired them backwards, which doesn't make lot of sense to me, but whatever.  I like a bike that runs well, and it's definitely way better than when I first got it going. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 23, 2016, 13:28:17
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160323/bb62528570a36d22b53ad75e567768cd.jpg)

Sweet little petcock to adapt the Yammi tank.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Mar 23, 2016, 20:38:59
I've got to tell you man, I am a serious fan of this here motorbike.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Mar 23, 2016, 20:40:19

I've got to tell you man, I am a serious fan of this here motorbike.
Thanks, homey. Means a lot.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jun 25, 2016, 15:25:00
Putting it through the paces and tweaking it here and there. I wasn't happy with any of the off-the-shelf hardware, so I machined up a couple of bushes to hold the seat...

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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: john83 on Jul 01, 2016, 19:18:05
Did you ever get it to charging better?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jul 01, 2016, 19:33:46
Did you ever get it to charging better?
I did.  Apparently a bunch of reg/recs out of China were wired for the DOHC 750s.  So, a little rewiring and it's been golden since.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Maritime on Jul 03, 2016, 22:04:59
Everything I have bought out of China for the GL has had to be rewired because it was wrong LOL
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Redbird on Jul 04, 2016, 12:04:50
Things must be Orient-ated differently over there ;) :P ;D
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Maritime on Jul 04, 2016, 12:20:10
Ha
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: john83 on Jul 08, 2016, 23:16:25
I did.  Apparently a bunch of reg/recs out of China were wired for the DOHC 750s.  So, a little rewiring and it's been golden since.

Huh! Wonder if I was having a similar issue with the 550. What did you have to change?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jul 09, 2016, 23:55:20
Huh! Wonder if I was having a similar issue with the 550. What did you have to change?
I went with this reg/rec:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/331288984721?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Notice no white wire on the reg/rec. White from the stator goes straight to the power buss.  Yellows from the stator go to yellows on the reg/rec.  Red to hot side of the battery and the kill switch.  Green to ground. 
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Maritime on Jul 11, 2016, 13:42:42
Everything on my GL I got from China was wired wrong lol
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: redwillissuperman on Jul 11, 2016, 16:05:54
I went with this reg/rec:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/331288984721?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Notice no white wire on the reg/rec. White from the stator goes straight to the power buss.  Yellows from the stator go to yellows on the reg/rec.  Red to hot side of the battery and the kill switch.  Green to ground.
What is a "power buss"?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Sonreir on Jul 11, 2016, 16:46:34
Basically a bit of metal with studs that acts as a single power (or ground) source.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jul 11, 2016, 16:53:07
Sorry, I'm running a positive and negative buss bar. Power being the positive one.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: john83 on Jul 19, 2016, 21:47:39
I went with this reg/rec:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/331288984721?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Notice no white wire on the reg/rec. White from the stator goes straight to the power buss.  Yellows from the stator go to yellows on the reg/rec.  Red to hot side of the battery and the kill switch.  Green to ground.

How does that work? Wouldn't the field coil be getting 12V all the time and cause an over voltage situation at high RPM?
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Jul 19, 2016, 22:18:58
How does that work? Wouldn't the field coil be getting 12V all the time and cause an over voltage situation at high RPM?
Excess voltage goes to ground.  I max out right around 13.6v, iirc.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: john83 on Jul 20, 2016, 22:58:38
Hhhmmmmm...maybe I need to go that route. For that price there isn't much to lose.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Aug 27, 2016, 22:24:52
After chasing gremlins in the charging system on this bike for months, I've finally gotten it all sorted out.  First issue was the stator, which got replaced and seemed to get it running for a bit.  Second issue was a bad reg/rec that apparently was wired for a DOHC yet marketed for an SOHC, or something like that.  Bought the cheap reg/rec off eBay like we talked about up there ^^^ and it ran well for a bit.  Third issue was the field coil.  At the beginning of the summer, the ignition seemed to start dropping out and fouling plugs.  The charging system could hold a charge sitting in the garage at idle, but as soon as you take it on the road voltage would drop below 12v.  You could rev it up to 12v+, but it got to where it was worse and worse.  I tested field coil at 7.8 ohms resistance, so bought a unit off of eBay.  On a hunch, I replaced all of the wire to the field coil and instead of bullet connectors I soldered the wire under the shifter cover.  A layer of glass tape, individual shrink wrap, bundle shrink wrap and an abrasive resistant sheath later and I hooked it up.  Finally, after all this time the bike might actually charge like it's supposed to...

Lesson: Replace every fucking millimeter of electrical wire on a bike made before 1999.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Ellwood on Aug 27, 2016, 23:23:19
You bringing this to the Cape Fear Kickdown? Or is the Beemer making an appearance?  Glad to see this running right.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: irk miller on Aug 27, 2016, 23:36:29
Not sure about that event.  Gearing up for Barber.  The Beemer is most likely Spring away, or January at the earliest.  The plan is to do some swapping for BMW parts at Barber and dig in over the winter with taking the motor down for maintenance.
Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: Ellwood on Aug 28, 2016, 00:00:14
Not sure about that event.  Gearing up for Barber.  The Beemer is most likely Spring away, or January at the earliest.  The plan is to do some swapping for BMW parts at Barber and dig in over the winter with taking the motor down for maintenance.
I'm about a 55 minute ride or so from Wilmington but it's not bad cruising. If you need a place to stay let me know.


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Title: Re: 1977 CB750 Deviant Hell Ride
Post by: john83 on Sep 17, 2016, 21:54:02
Jebus. That's probably what I need to do with the 550. I replaced the stator so I should probably do the field coil as well and all the wiring you mentioned when I redo the wiring. Dammed electrons.