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Author Topic: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker  (Read 65186 times)

Offline tort

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #20 on: Feb 01, 2014, 14:01:13 »
Darn it! Just got home from the garage and dind't read it earlier.

Im using original wheel. The chain must run straight when looking from the back, thats the main rule. Also, it has little chain adjuster bolts in the rear end of the swing arm. If they're set for the same length, the wheel should be straight.

Why do you ask? Logically the distance between the rim and left/right side of swingarm should be the same.

Offline Bert Jan

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #21 on: Feb 02, 2014, 08:01:39 »
Hi Tort,

The swingarm is not symetrical, thats the problem. The swingarm is wider (measured from the centerline of the whole bike) on the chainside, so when you lace the rim to be in the middle of the swinger, its not in the middle of the bike. So therefor i want to know the offset of the rim.

(it could be optical illustion though, i'll measure it again with a chain laser this afternoon.)
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Offline tort

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #22 on: Feb 02, 2014, 10:24:11 »
Maybe its an illusion because the part of the frame where the rear shock is situated is not very symmetrical and its rather freaky from back there  ;D But this is not a problem, if original wheel is used. You align it straight and that's how it's meant to be. Ofcourse, if a different wheel is used, it might need spacers to get the same alignment.

But ill try to remember when i go next time and measure it if needed. Its going to be at least a week i think.

Offline Bert Jan

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #23 on: Feb 02, 2014, 12:52:24 »
Hehe, i think you're not understanding what i mean. We are using the same hub and rim but they got coated and we're in need of a new set of spokes.

Once more, my question is simple. Does the rim sit in the middle of the hub or does the rim need some offset spoke tensioning?
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Offline tort

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #24 on: Feb 02, 2014, 15:04:58 »
Ok, i understand now. The spokes are all the same and no offsetting while re-assembling should be needed. The centre of the rim should be between the left and right side spoke sockets of an assembled hub (it consists of 2 parts). If you tension the spokes equally while re-assembling, it should sit right in the middle.

If not, then my wheel is nothing to go by, because that's what i did. It may be that the hub is wider from the left side, for example, and due to that the swing-arm is a bit asymmetrical also, but that doesn't change the way to reinstall new spokes. My wheel turned out fine.

Offline Bert Jan

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #25 on: Feb 02, 2014, 15:10:01 »
I know for sure you need 2 different sizes of spokes. I measured today and will post pictures later on. Dslr pics, on ipad now...
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Offline tort

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #26 on: Feb 02, 2014, 15:21:29 »
Interesting. Mine were all the same and i picked randomly from the pile of refurbished spokes while reassembling and it turned out fine.

Offline Bert Jan

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #27 on: Feb 02, 2014, 15:34:04 »
Wich yearis yours? mine's '89
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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #28 on: Feb 02, 2014, 15:34:30 »
The '88 has a drum brake, could be different?
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Offline Bert Jan

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #29 on: Feb 02, 2014, 15:41:44 »
http://www.cmsnl.com/honda-nx650-dominator-1989-european-direct-sales_model3880/partslist/F__1400.html#results

you can see the spokes are numbers 6 & 7. When they would be all the same, they would be all 6's or 7's right?


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http://www.cross-center.com/en/spokes-and-spoke-sets/all-spokes/spoke-set-nx-650-dominator-17-88-94-rear-wheel.html

Strange.. here they say the innies are longer then the outies. Doesn't make sense at all..
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