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Author Topic: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker  (Read 62773 times)

Offline tort

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #30 on: Feb 02, 2014, 16:00:35 »
Thought of asking you the same. Mine is '90 and it has a disc already. So yeah, it could be different. First ones had drums.

I have a manual for drum brake version and i made you a screenshot about rear wheel assembly. That is all the info they have about rear wheel spokes: http://www.upload.ee/image/3865211/Screen_Shot_2014-02-02_at_9.58.39_PM.png

If i were you, i'd complete the wheel the same way it used to be and if you tension the spokes about equally, it should fix itself to the right position.

Offline Bert Jan

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #31 on: Feb 02, 2014, 16:03:56 »
I cut the old spokes and they"re long gone. That picture is EXACTLY what i need but then for the dischub.. :(
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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #32 on: Feb 02, 2014, 16:29:06 »
The picture you provided is for the 88 and 89 model. The 89 model uses the same hub as the 90 model, so offset should be 8mm on all then. In the picture you can clearly see the spokes are different sizes. I'm really confused now.
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Offline tort

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #33 on: Feb 02, 2014, 16:31:48 »
Seems that they are indeed of different length. I wouldn't trust a random 2-nd party webpage about the innie-outie thing. Still it seems that you need 16 pcs of one length and 16 pcs of other. You could check from your local Honda dealership, maybe they have more detailed manuals. Or if they confirm you need 16+16 set, order it from anywhere you like and its easier to figure out if you have the hub, rim and spokes in front of you on the table  :)


Offline tort

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #34 on: Feb 02, 2014, 16:39:02 »
The picture you provided is for the 88 and 89 model. The 89 model uses the same hub as the 90 model, so offset should be 8mm on all then. In the picture you can clearly see the spokes are different sizes. I'm really confused now.

The picture goes to early drum brake models. I dont know if the switch to disc was in 89 or 90, but my mid-90 has a disc already.

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #35 on: Feb 02, 2014, 16:39:49 »
mine is 89 and has disc. Guess the 88 (first) model had a drum, all others disc?
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Offline Bert Jan

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #36 on: Feb 02, 2014, 16:41:11 »
The hub looks the same though, (not looking at the part where the disc/drum is located). I think the bosses where the spokes sit in are the same and thats the point where they're asking you to measure the 8mm. Right?
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Offline tort

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #37 on: Feb 02, 2014, 16:46:31 »
Got me confused for a sec, i started believing you have drum :) Im sure the disc brake hubs are all the same. Which brings me to this question - if the spokes are different, how come i picked randomly from the pile and the wheel turned out great? Had is adjusted in a shop afterwards and the guy said that its tops!  ;D

Offline Bert Jan

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #38 on: Feb 02, 2014, 17:46:28 »
The wheel turning out great on itself has nothing to do with being alligned properly in the whole bike. The spokes for disk hubs are 210mm and 212mm. The short ones are for the inside hub flange holes, the longer ones are for the outside spokes.

That means the wheel will be centered if you take the middle between the flanges as reference.
I measured that today and found out it's correct.

I found out looking at the pics i wanted to upload. Its all good. The middle of the hub
(Between the flanges) has to be the middle of the rim. The hub in total is offcenter when you take the swingarm as reference. Thats ok cause the swinger is not symmetrical either.

I'm gonna lace her up and i think it'll be just fine.
I will keep you updated.

Thanks for the help man!
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Offline tort

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #39 on: Feb 02, 2014, 18:08:00 »
The wheel turning out great on itself has nothing to do with being alligned properly in the whole bike. The spokes for disk hubs are 210mm and 212mm. The short ones are for the inside hub flange holes, the longer ones are for the outside spokes.

If the only difference between the spokes is the length of the spoke (2mm) and you can re-assemble it incorrectly with incorrect alignment, buy yourself a beer. I'd say it's not possible, because the difference is so little and you can adjust it by the length of the thread and nipple.

Also, if you're using original swingarm, original hub and original rims, what's all the fuss about measuring things? Put it together, adjust the spokes properly and you're done.