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Author Topic: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker  (Read 65187 times)

Offline Bert Jan

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #50 on: Feb 04, 2014, 06:26:38 »
No. If depends of the flanges (the rings on the hub where the spokes go into). For an (extreme) example:

If the left flange is almost against the swinger and the right flange is just right of the middle, spokes with the same length tightened equally will result in a rim far offcenter to the side the flange is most outside located.

The flanges are not always equally spaced from the the center outwards, due to design purposes.
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Offline Bert Jan

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #51 on: Feb 04, 2014, 06:30:49 »
Another example;

A bicycle front hub with diskbrake has the non-brale side flange more outwards than tje the brake side flange (because the diskbosses are in the way).
Therefor that particular wheel needs an offcenter spoke configuration. The spokes on the brake side need to be shorter to get the rim in thr center of the forks.
(Admitted, on a bicycle you can tension those spokes more to influence the offset) but om a motorcycle thats a no-go. ;)

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Offline tort

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #52 on: Feb 04, 2014, 06:41:06 »
No. If depends of the flanges (the rings on the hub where the spokes go into). For an (extreme) example:

If the left flange is almost against the swinger and the right flange is just right of the middle, spokes with the same length tightened equally will result in a rim far offcenter to the side the flange is most outside located.

Yup, offset depends on the flanges. Correct. But offcenter wheel requires spokes that are different in length, right? Or are you saying that the spokes for an offcenter wheel are more or less the same length and its the tightening that does the trick?

Offline Bert Jan

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #53 on: Feb 04, 2014, 06:53:13 »
No. Offcenter wheel does not exist. Offcenter rim however... An offcenter rim does not always require different spoke lengths. Sometimes the needed spoke length difference is eliminated by the fact one flange has bigger diameter.


No, except on bicycle wheels.
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Offline Bert Jan

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #54 on: Feb 04, 2014, 06:55:22 »
And because NX hub has different flange diameters but only 2mm spoke length difference i was assuming the rim needed to be build offcenter (taking the middle of the hub between the flanges as reference), to the side where the flange is smaller diameter.

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Offline tort

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #55 on: Feb 04, 2014, 07:02:14 »
Ok, clear as crystal. I actually used to work in a bike shop 10-15 years ago and have a degree from an engineering faculty, but no experience with motorcycle wheels.

I guess that since the hub looks a bit idiotic, you were right to ask about the centering. I just looked at my spokes, which i managed to refurbish actually and since they seemed to be the same, i just rebuilt the wheel with them and didn't ask any questions.

Offline Bert Jan

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #56 on: Feb 04, 2014, 07:29:27 »
You telling me all the spokes are the same length was all i needed to know ;)
I worked in a bikeshop to for 7 years and build 100 wheels. Always a fun thing to do and super satisfying!
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Offline mannydantyla

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #57 on: Feb 10, 2014, 20:01:32 »
awesome build you have going so far

Offline tort

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #58 on: Feb 11, 2014, 12:38:18 »
Thanks a lot! Canīt wait to rip it apart and have it painted, but there are some things to do first that require time and time is what i have very little right now.

Offline Pedja

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Re: Honda NX650 Dominator tracker
« Reply #59 on: Feb 17, 2014, 14:49:46 »
  Hi Tort, very nice build,  can you post here or send me a link from where you bought the 19 inch rim. I am  from Serbia so here is also very  hard to find a lot of parts.