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Blood Sweat Tears and Grease => Projects => Cafe Racers => Topic started by: B L A K E on Dec 22, 2010, 23:03:51

Title: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 22, 2010, 23:03:51
Hey guys, If you havent caught up already, below is a quick-view of the bike through pics.

I've got pics of the bike but i need ALOT of help so i'm hoping and praying you guys will help a 17 Year Old out. :)
 
http://s186.photobucket.com/upload/albums/Ares570/ (http://s186.photobucket.com/upload/albums/Ares570/)
(Photo album of bike)

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2030.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/Concept2Orangeandblack.jpg)


100_2431[1] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge8hgn0jNF0#ws)
 
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2498.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2758.jpg)

 (http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2797.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2794.jpg)
 
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2847.jpg)
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: Bobdot on Dec 22, 2010, 23:58:29
If you find that a certain member named "Rocan" gives you the cold shoulder or tries to tell you to paint your bike flat pink, don't worry,  you just stole his thunder.

But seriously, welcome to the site!  I've been working on a 72 CB350 for a few years now and theres tons of people on here with a vast amount of experience with these old girls so ask away.  $600 can get you a lot depending on how much you need to put into what you "need."  First things first, post up some pics and show us what you're working with!

bob.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: Rocan on Dec 23, 2010, 00:04:54
you bastard!

really, flat pink would look great!

find my thread... "cb350 built by a teen"

been at it a year and a half. there was a member younger then us, Jared, but his project seemed to kind of fade (lost interest?)

keep at it... if you need pointers, im here for ya.

oh, and take it from me... listen to EVERYTHING a lot of the people say, and dont talk back like you know what your doing.

where are you located?

as for budget... good luck keeping to it. ive spent over 3 times the cost of my bike on parts and things since i bought it. its a big pit.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: Rocan on Dec 23, 2010, 00:05:35
oh, and for the record...

whats your birthday? im sep 4, so if your born earlier, im still youngest  :D



heres my thread...

a LOT to read through, but you can see how much ive learned since i started... also how much more complex she got since the day i tore her down!

http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=8643.0 (http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=8643.0)


now im looking at swapping in a 6 speed... when will the madness end!
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 23, 2010, 00:21:18
@Rocan, I think me and you are goin to be buds haha sept 28th sorry i guess im the youngest.

But thanks for your thread! Im still playing with the theory of going two tone black on top white on bottom and gold stripe through the middle of the side of the tank.
im trying to get the camera charged haha sorry.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 23, 2010, 00:25:15
First things first. I need help with wiring. My bikes making 180 (give or take) psi on both cylinders. I figured before i tore anything up thats the best thing to do...?

So i looked it up and thats pretty good compression. BTW thats dry compression. i didnt spray anything before i tested.

Also i need a cheap yet reliable battery , considering i dont have one.
My clutch cables are brittle and look like rubish. so i want to replace those with some newer style black ones (hate the ugly coffee color of mine)

My theory on the bike not starting is: something wrong with wiring.
Checked the points: both set at .014 is that good or should they be at .012?

Cameras almost done charging haha sorry!
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: Bobdot on Dec 23, 2010, 00:30:16
welp, indeed first things first, you need a battery to check the wiring.  Any lights turn on? look inside the carbs yet?  key in the ignition?  It's "suck-bang-blow" on these old 4 strokes... suck= carbs/intake, bang= plugs/wiring/ignition, blow= exhaust.  Simple as that!

bob.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: Rocan on Dec 23, 2010, 00:38:16
your cylinders are in great shape man... dont tear into there as 180psi is more then enough.

start with a carb rebuild kit, and check that you have spark.

also you need a battery in there for it to start!  :D

trust me on this... fix the bike as to Stock specs, then start modifying. replace cables, etc etc. heres a good link to help you...

http://oldmanhonda.com/MC/MC.html (http://oldmanhonda.com/MC/MC.html)

and heres the shop manual, which i uploaded.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/vd7d8z1e1nof8z0/cb250_cb350_shopmanual.pdf (http://www.mediafire.com/file/vd7d8z1e1nof8z0/cb250_cb350_shopmanual.pdf)

and heres some damn good reading which will help get your theory down! i bought a copy, well worth the money...

http://www.mediafire.com/file/4t0ylmfmoaa/Performance%20Tuning%20in%20Theory%20%26%20Practice.pdf (http://www.mediafire.com/file/4t0ylmfmoaa/Performance%20Tuning%20in%20Theory%20%26%20Practice.pdf)


and of course, some yoshimura cb350 porn (which no one has a copy of but me, apparently!)

http://www.mediafire.com/file/2nyiolvuq3409c2/Yoshimura%20CB350.pdf (http://www.mediafire.com/file/2nyiolvuq3409c2/Yoshimura%20CB350.pdf)



so remember...  get her running stock first, then start modding. i have some spares if you need them... just stuff that never got sold that may be helpful to you.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: Big Rich on Dec 23, 2010, 00:40:57
I could be wrong, but isn't 180 psi too high?

Either way, better high than low. Welcome to the site man.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 23, 2010, 01:08:45
your cylinders are in great shape man... dont tear into there as 180psi is more then enough.

start with a carb rebuild kit, and check that you have spark.

also you need a battery in there for it to start!  :D

trust me on this... fix the bike as to Stock specs, then start modifying. replace cables, etc etc. heres a good link to help you...

http://oldmanhonda.com/MC/MC.html (http://oldmanhonda.com/MC/MC.html)

and heres the shop manual, which i uploaded.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/vd7d8z1e1nof8z0/cb250_cb350_shopmanual.pdf (http://www.mediafire.com/file/vd7d8z1e1nof8z0/cb250_cb350_shopmanual.pdf)

and heres some damn good reading which will help get your theory down! i bought a copy, well worth the money...

http://www.mediafire.com/file/4t0ylmfmoaa/Performance%20Tuning%20in%20Theory%20%26%20Practice.pdf (http://www.mediafire.com/file/4t0ylmfmoaa/Performance%20Tuning%20in%20Theory%20%26%20Practice.pdf)


and of course, some yoshimura cb350 porn (which no one has a copy of but me, apparently!)

http://www.mediafire.com/file/2nyiolvuq3409c2/Yoshimura%20CB350.pdf (http://www.mediafire.com/file/2nyiolvuq3409c2/Yoshimura%20CB350.pdf)



so remember...  get her running stock first, then start modding. i have some spares if you need them... just stuff that never got sold that may be helpful to you.


Wow thanks man that helps a lot! And

it says my pics are too big how do i get them on here.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: JoeTee on Dec 23, 2010, 01:22:54
I wonder who will finish their build first...   ;D  Welcome!!!
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 23, 2010, 01:26:31
I wonder who will finish their build first...   ;D  Welcome!!!

Me. Its a challenge. Im starting it now. Rocan. Its on!

(plus i have hardly no engine work to do hhaha)
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 23, 2010, 01:28:37
http://s186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/ (http://s186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/)

all the pics you need.

:)

FEEDBACK. And need help getting the thing started!!
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: bikeboy on Dec 23, 2010, 07:10:03
FEEDBACK. And need help getting the thing started!!

copy the "direct link" under the pic, then insert it using the "insert image icon":

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2019.jpg)

Us lazy people don't want to go trawling through photobucket albums  ;)

Feedback? Love it. That just happens to be my all-time favourite Honda scheme.

As for the motor, like the others have said, that's a good compression reading, so that's a positive. Get yourself a battery (have you already?). Check that you have a nice blue spark at the points. Take the cover off and crank it a bit. The gap seems close enough to start her up at least. If that checks out, pull a plug and ground it on the motor so you can see the electrode, then crank it again to see if the spark is reaching the plugs. If it is, and the timing is correct, you probably need to look into the fuel system. Work backwards until you find out where the fuel stops. Does the petcock work? Do the carb bowls fill?

See how you go, and report back.

...and have fun ;)

cheers
ian
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: motofiaccone on Dec 23, 2010, 09:20:00
If it helps, I built this bike for $1200 total. The base bike was in good condition and I sold 90% of the crap off it to regain a lot of spend. About $200 of the build was spent on tires alone, so you could probably save some money there. The trick is to do all the work yourself and never compromise the build quality.

(http://www.motofiaccone.com/images/stories/cb350_cafe_racer/SaltFlats/motofiaccone5.jpg)
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: hurley209 on Dec 23, 2010, 14:02:04
awesome dude, if you even need anything feel free to ask!

and chris, that bike is one of my favorites man, such great work!
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: Rocan on Dec 23, 2010, 15:47:08
hah... first one done!? not fair... i have to figure out my 360 swap! but if i do put it together with my cb350 tranny, i could have it done in a month or so.

meh, im in no race.  :D
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 23, 2010, 18:37:15
http://s186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/ (http://s186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/)

all the pics you need.

:)

FEEDBACK. And need help getting the thing started!!

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2030.jpg) Bike overview *crenge*

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2025.jpg)
Need help getting juice from a battery to the Ignition switch, and also does anyone HAVE a fully intact set of hand controls mine are kinda fubar... well in pieces...(see next pic)


(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2024.jpg)


Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: JoeTee on Dec 23, 2010, 21:11:54
Is that a fiberglass seat, or did you carve it outta foam?  I cant tell from the pic.  I like the shape, similar to what i'm going to do.

Joe
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 23, 2010, 21:14:07
I carved the seat outta foam but i have no clue at ALL how to do a seat out of fiberglass. im gonna throw that one out though. Im gonna go for a more "flowing" look
.. Im currently in photoshop tinkering
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: JoeTee on Dec 23, 2010, 21:52:05
I carved the seat outta foam but i have no clue at ALL how to do a seat out of fiberglass. im gonna throw that one out though. Im gonna go for a more "flowing" look
.. Im currently in photoshop tinkering

lol, I just posted a pic of my photoshop mock.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 24, 2010, 14:19:39
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/Concept1OrangeandBlack.jpg)

Okay heres what i have so far.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: Rocan on Dec 25, 2010, 17:15:38
oooh, interesting! your going to have to find a way to fit a nozzle into that gas tank though... maybe offset the lid? also youll need a good crossover tube or three, otherwise only half your tank will be full!

also youll have no clearance for that tail piece....

pretty cool man...

the challenge is ON though. i plan to have motor re-assembled by this week. ill save the 6 speed swap for down the road.

merry christmas blake!
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: Big Rich on Dec 25, 2010, 17:31:30
Crossover tubes suck. If anything, go with dual petcocks.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: Rocan on Dec 25, 2010, 20:25:29
Crossover tubes suck. If anything, go with dual petcocks.

agreed. you will also need to have dual filler caps... so really, youll have two separate tanks.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 26, 2010, 03:28:44
I've decided to go with the stock tank for now I need help with finding switches that will work
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: Big Rich on Dec 26, 2010, 11:56:52
I saw Bob offered the right side, do you need the left too? 
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: VonYinzer on Dec 26, 2010, 13:33:45
Just ran across this thread. Looks like your heads on straight man. Going with the stock tank is smart with your budget. You have a ton of work ahead of you though. Hook up any 12v battery to the system to check and see if anything works. A stock battery is pretty cheap too, but you'll need a battery charger as well. You should buy a trickle charger if you plan on owning bikes anyway though. I havent see (or missed) anything about you cleaning the carbs. That should be at the top of your list. I promise that theyre all gummed up. Well... I dont want to bug ya anymore than I have. Keep up the good work man!
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 27, 2010, 03:59:47
Thanks Von seriously!
And don't I need a rebuild kit if I clen the carbs? And yes I need right and left switches please.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: Big Rich on Dec 27, 2010, 10:26:49
I "might" have a left side switch somewhere. But don't hold me to it.


I'll be in the garage later today and if I stumble on it, it's yours.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: VonYinzer on Dec 27, 2010, 10:30:37
A rebuild kit wouldnt hurt, but a good cleaning is all you'll probobly really need to try and get the bike running correctly. Doing a complete rebuild should be in your plans though.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 27, 2010, 18:25:50
It only has 8000 miles and full rebuild? Idk what that is
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: Rocan on Dec 27, 2010, 18:57:32
full carb rebuild is taking it all apart, inspecting each individual part. i would do it, replace any gaskets/washers etc.


that way you KNOW that your carb is in good condition.


my cb350 had 5300 miles on it when i bought it... cam chain tensioner was already completely worn.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: VonYinzer on Dec 27, 2010, 19:08:18
When you buy an old bike, you also buy all the dumb shit the previous owners did to it.
Dont ever expect that because its a lower mileage bike that its all good to go. A bike only needs run a short time with too little oil, or out of adjustment to do damage. It also only takes a couple weeks of sitting idle with gas in the carbs to gum them all up.
One of the things that people new to vintage motorbikes dont seem to understand is that they arent made from modern space age materials. They dont last for thousands of miles without upkeep and things in spec. If you want a bike that you can just "hop on and go" anytime you wish, theyre having a sale on used cbr600s at my local dealership.
Not giving you a hard time, but you must realize that you're dealing with a 40yr old machine. Forgetting that can be dangerous, and expensive.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 27, 2010, 20:58:08
When you buy an old bike, you also buy all the dumb shit the previous owners did to it.
Dont ever expect that because its a lower mileage bike that its all good to go. A bike only needs run a short time with too little oil, or out of adjustment to do damage. It also only takes a couple weeks of sitting idle with gas in the carbs to gum them all up.
One of the things that people new to vintage motorbikes dont seem to understand is that they arent made from modern space age materials. They dont last for thousands of miles without upkeep and things in spec. If you want a bike that you can just "hop on and go" anytime you wish, theyre having a sale on used cbr600s at my local dealership.
Not giving you a hard time, but you must realize that you're dealing with a 40yr old machine. Forgetting that can be dangerous, and expensive.

Yeah, to be honest, i've heard that the cb350 were very well made so i just kinda assumed that they'd be low maintaince.

I bought something i think i can use for a killswitch so i can try to kick start the bike to see if it will start....i'm looking for cheap parts i can use for the gaskets online currently...

I bought florists foam that i can use to start on my seat mold... but what all do i need to make a seat?

-Pan? (just a piece of metal? flat?)
-Florists foam
-Fiberglass?
-Resin?

Man, i don't know much about stuff like this.

Also: If i'm going to change the oil...10w40 or 20w50?
and does brand matter as long as its not generic?

More questions,

Sorry :(


I got some Jtubing that fits in my exhaust port, can i use that? and what will i need. All i have is the rosets and the metal coupling that went in them. 2 sets of 2.

The Jtubing says HOOKER Headers on them but it just looks like pipe to me..

The Switch i got has an on side and an off side and has three prongs on it.

The prongs say POWER     ACC     GROUND.

i have not a fking clue in the world how to wire all i know is that the ground according to the diagram found here:
<http://www.cmsnl.com/classic-honda-fansite/honda_wiring_diagrams/CB350F.jpg>
...says that the ground hooks to the neutral indicator and the neutral indicator goes to a ground.

Any help?
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: DrJ on Dec 27, 2010, 21:23:12
agreed. you will also need to have dual filler caps... so really, youll have two separate tanks.

Why would the tank need to petcocks? The 2 sides will even out when you fill the tank. Anyway you look like you have a lot of work ahead just to get your bike running. Concentrate on that before playing around with a hump seat and new tank. And you don't know a thing about electrics or wiring. Hooboy…
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Evera
Post by: VonYinzer on Dec 27, 2010, 21:59:07
Oh man brother... You opened up a can of worms, than dumped them all over the floor. One thing ata time my man. Im on my phone now, so I cant see if you posted pics of anything youre talking about. First off, forget all about a seat right now. Honestly, its the last thing you "need".  Wiring is easy for the most part. You need to determine whats what though, and for that you need a proper wiring diagram. Please buy a good manual for your bike. It will have a diagram in the back. Most of the wiring on a bike has nothing to do with firing it up. Figure out which pieces do, and go from there. Also, you can build a new harness on the cheap, but again, you need to have a plan. Now... Im guessing that by "J pipes", you mean headers. If they say "Hooker" than theyre aftermarket, and you should sell em' to me... hahaha... Seriously though, PM me pics of everything you can and Ill do my best to help. Also send your email addy and Ill send ya some wiring stuff that will be a huge help. Now... Back to the seat.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: VonYinzer on Dec 27, 2010, 22:01:41
As far as the seat: The search fuction is there for a reason. There has been a million threads about glass work.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 27, 2010, 22:51:32
Why would the tank need to petcocks? The 2 sides will even out when you fill the tank. Anyway you look like you have a lot of work ahead just to get your bike running. Concentrate on that before playing around with a hump seat and new tank. And you don't know a thing about electrics or wiring. Hooboy…
Hey man, I'm only 17 years old...give me a break..

As far as the seat: The search fuction is there for a reason. There has been a million threads about glass work.

Yeah i use it...
but what i am asking is WHAT i need... not how to do it...

Oh man brother... You opened up a can of worms, than dumped them all over the floor. One thing ata time my man. Im on my phone now, so I cant see if you posted pics of anything youre talking about. First off, forget all about a seat right now. Honestly, its the last thing you "need".  Wiring is easy for the most part. You need to determine whats what though, and for that you need a proper wiring diagram. Please buy a good manual for your bike. It will have a diagram in the back. Most of the wiring on a bike has nothing to do with firing it up. Figure out which pieces do, and go from there. Also, you can build a new harness on the cheap, but again, you need to have a plan. Now... Im guessing that by "J pipes", you mean headers. If they say "Hooker" than theyre aftermarket, and you should sell em' to me... hahaha... Seriously though, PM me pics of everything you can and Ill do my best to help. Also send your email addy and Ill send ya some wiring stuff that will be a huge help. Now... Back to the seat.
The pipes aren't bent to fit and i don't think ill sell them to you cuz i don't have headers myself.. Or mufflers.

Where do i find the best deal on a manual? can't i just download one?

I can post PICTURES OF ANYTHING YOU GUYS WANT TO SEE! JUST ASK!

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Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: Reinhard on Dec 27, 2010, 23:20:31
The manual for that bike may be available on this site. Check the manuals section. The ignition switch is wired so in the first position it sends power to the starter. The second postion sends power to your accessories. Lights, etc.
As far as wiring goes I almost always wire a new harness from the fuseblock out. Start there.I usually eliminate a few things here and there as most of my bikes are stripped down. For instance I usually ditch the idiot lights and light switch. I just run my headlight on hi-beam all the time. Seems like you need to figure out where you want to go before you start the journey. Take your time and think it through.
 
How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 28, 2010, 00:01:16
i wouldn't mind running the hibeams on all the time... but i can't let it idle or it'll die if it idles too long... right?
 
I guess a new harness would be a good idea...this one i got is pretty messed up and old.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 28, 2010, 01:31:07
so i just went outside and did a little more polishing on the engine. going for the polished aluminum for now i guess. i detangled the mess of wiring inside the headlight casing and tryed to get them in order for tommarow.

Tommarow im gonna bring my ipod touch outside with me(it has internet access) so ill be able to use a wiring diagram and im gonna try to wire up this killswitch and start the bike hopefully by kick start. *cross your fingers!*
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: Rocan on Dec 28, 2010, 01:50:04
dr j was talking to me i think...

in responce... Dr j- hed need two petcocks/filler caps if he used his original tank design, which is nearly flat against the top tube of the frame, as the tank would have a seam in the bottom which would keep the two halves seperate... or at least thats what i can see in the drawing.


Blake... get the bike in top stock condition first, then modify. i would get a set of feeler gauges and adjust your valves first. then rebuild your carbs using new gaskets/ carb rebuild kit. throw in fresh gas and new spark plugs that are properly gapped, then use the interactive wiring diagram i gave you (im pretty sure i did? old man honda?) to make sure you have all the basics in place for your ignition circuit. worry about signals/lights later.

give her a kick, and if you have compression, spark, and fuel, trust me, shell run. these honda twins are bulletproof.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 28, 2010, 02:31:02
OH my GOD. Rocan. i totally didnt even think that would help to begin with..hahaha wow
 
http://oldmanhonda.com/MC/wiring350K4.html (http://oldmanhonda.com/MC/wiring350K4.html)
 
helps...a ....ton!
 
:b
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 28, 2010, 02:37:04
was looking up rules for turn signals to see if i had to even install them and i dont!

Illinois Motorcycle Regulations:

Safety Helmet:  Not required by law. 
Eye Protection:  Required by law unless equipped with windscreen 
Passenger Age:  No Restrictions 
Helmet Speakers:  For Communication Only 
Mirrors:  One required by law 
Headlight:  Daytime headlight required by law. Modulating headlight permitted. 
Turn Signals:  Not Required 
Handlebars:  Handgrips below shoulder height 
Muffler:  Muffler required. Not modified to amplify or increase noise above that emitted by muffler originally installed (Sec. 902-101). 
Noise Restrictions:  Maximum allowable A-weighted sound levels based on measurements taken at a distance of 50 feet (Sec. 902.122): 80-82dBA at less than 35mph; 86dBA at more than 35mph. 
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: Rocan on Dec 28, 2010, 18:58:20
you had the wrong link entirely!


you had for the cb350 four cylinder, not the twin
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: my94f2 on Dec 28, 2010, 19:09:18
and in illinois the exhaust dont matter as the mirror. i have never had a mirror and exhaust is always loud as hell
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: Rocan on Dec 28, 2010, 19:16:26
and in illinois the exhaust dont matter as the mirror. i have never had a mirror and exhaust is always loud as hell

please muffle your pipe. loud exhausts DO NOT save lives, and sound completely stupid and tinny. Also they do nothing but get even stricter laws placed on motorcycling.

and chances are your open pipe is not the correct tuned length, so its not like your really gaining any power; chances are you could BENEFIT from a little baffling.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 28, 2010, 20:31:48
WE HAVE FIRE!

My dad did something...helped me a little and we put a battery on it and we got it to fire for a second or two! so i know that its gonna be easy to get it running.

Going to the store for line filters right now... and some laundry soda to do some electrolysis with my tank. Cleaning the rust outta of that tonight. Will have pics...

also replacing some lines and wires too...
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: Rocan on Dec 28, 2010, 20:39:55
sounds good man! make sure your valves and everything are adjusted... also check cam chain tensioner etc. last thing you need is for her to be running, then bend a valve as she wasnt adjusted properly.

also sand your points and adjust them, then consider getting new ones (if the stockers are old and worn, its worth it.)

keep us posted.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 28, 2010, 22:39:50
how do you check the cam chain tensioner? and ive heard adjusting that is a bitch?

And how do you adjust the valves? im pretty sure they were adjusted when i bought it.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: Bobdot on Dec 28, 2010, 23:20:14
Seriously dude, ya gotta get your hands on a manual.  These are the kind of questions that are answered in full detailed with pretty pictures.  Its hard for us to explain it the same way on here.
 
also, I PMed you regarding that throttle control.
 
bob.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: Big Rich on Dec 28, 2010, 23:26:09
+1 to Bob. Even after you try it according to the manual, you might still have a question or two though.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 29, 2010, 00:49:03
@bob,
 
Still working on that,
between work and a girlfriend, and family...well i haven't really had time to look for these things. is 10bucks a good deal for one? ha.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 29, 2010, 00:54:52
and also bob,
 
Dont need the switches i guess... because im using new style switches and taking the turn signals out...and rewiring for full time running lights.
 
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: Big Rich on Dec 29, 2010, 00:59:48
There should be a link to an online manual on DTT somewhere. However, since the site changed I don't know where it would be.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: Rocan on Dec 29, 2010, 02:32:13
DUDE!

i gave you a link to the shop manual back on page one. now go and download it you schmuck ;)

just do what i do with my girlfriends... bring them into the shop and... multi task...

well, only two ever let me do that to them there, and one moved back to denmark, the other left me for some guy (cant blame her, it wasnt a bf/gf relationship, just a hookup, do miss her though...)

anyway.

BIKE FIRST, THEN GIRL! i blew off two girls today to get SOMETHING done on bike... ended up not happening, but still ;)
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 29, 2010, 11:57:25
DUDE!

i gave you a link to the shop manual back on page one. now go and download it you schmuck ;)

just do what i do with my girlfriends... bring them into the shop and... multi task...

well, only two ever let me do that to them there, and one moved back to denmark, the other left me for some guy (cant blame her, it wasnt a bf/gf relationship, just a hookup, do miss her though...)

anyway.

BIKE FIRST, THEN GIRL! i blew off two girls today to get SOMETHING done on bike... ended up not happening, but still ;)

I am i am! but i can't bring the manual in the shop if its on my computer which is why im not downloading it cuz it takes forever for me to download stuff with HILLBILLY CONNECTION SPEED.

Also, guys i have a little ADD and procrastination sometimes so bare with me... Photos just got done so heres what i've done so far:

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/Mustang%20Problems/100_2056.jpg)
First and foremost i had to put my new grille in :)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2063.jpg)
replaced lines last night and got 2 fuel line filters for the carbs...
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2065.jpg)
Got fire last night! so thats great! we've been using the battery charger for my battery haha.
12volt 50amps.
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2033.jpg)
General Cleaning up of the bike, not much i can do except that...without research.
Also starting to polish up the covers for the polished look as you can see.

Comments?!

Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 29, 2010, 11:59:28
By the way:
 
those tires i'm pretty sure are new ...!!
So thats gonna save me about 100bucks wont it?
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: Rocan on Dec 29, 2010, 12:31:25
yeah those tires are new. lucky!

blake... put the download on overnight. the manual really is a lot to print out all at once; so dont do that. print each section as you need it; you dont need the whole book all the time (though i have been looking into getting a bound copy made).

good luck. seems your making decent progress.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: VonYinzer on Dec 29, 2010, 12:46:41
Save the manual to a flash drive and take it to Kinkos or Staples.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: Rocan on Dec 29, 2010, 13:06:25
Save the manual to a flash drive and take it to Kinkos or Staples.

agreed... still pricy to print though... 219 pages!
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: hurley209 on Dec 29, 2010, 13:10:36
find someone on here who works at a print place and get it for free haha
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: teazer on Dec 29, 2010, 13:19:40
Or just print a few pages at a time.  Want to clean the carbs, print that section.  Need to work on the wiring, print that bit out. 

Or just buy one already printed....
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: VonYinzer on Dec 29, 2010, 16:06:54
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-CB250-CB350-Service-Manual-1964-1974-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem45f6a9a426QQitemZ300491056166QQptZMotorsQ5fManualsQ5fLiterature (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-CB250-CB350-Service-Manual-1964-1974-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem45f6a9a426QQitemZ300491056166QQptZMotorsQ5fManualsQ5fLiterature)
 
Buy that for in the garage... If you need the more detailed bits from the proper shop book, print them. Just get a freakin manual in the garage already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 ;)
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: DrJ on Dec 29, 2010, 16:17:06
Don't know why you're bothering with the old hunkajunk. You can score way more poontang with that Mustang back there.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: treitz on Dec 29, 2010, 16:17:39
Or just print a few pages at a time.  Want to clean the carbs, print that section.  Need to work on the wiring, print that bit out. 

Or just buy one already printed....

That's what I am doing for my KZ400. Just printing pages as I need them. Working for me.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 29, 2010, 19:08:35
Yeah but the
Don't know why you're bothering with the old hunkajunk. You can score way more poontang with that Mustang back there.
Haha this one?
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2056.jpg)

Ehhhh Wellll a bike is more fuel effiecent and more badass...
It was too cold today to work... hopefully doing something tommarow
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: Rocan on Dec 29, 2010, 19:52:46
Don't know why you're bothering with the old hunkajunk. You can score way more poontang with that Mustang back there.

my bike isnt for puntang! ;)

i havent brought it up yet... but damn dude, your rents got you a stang?

I have a lexus in my name (1994 ls400) when i turn 18, but i had babysat twins for about 3 years every weekend to get it.

Ill probably end up buying a porsche 944, pulling the ls400 motor and throwing it in the 944, dual turboing it, and than have a ride that makes me shit my pants and cry like a baby every time i turn the ignition.... aka, a fun car. ;)
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: spark6 on Dec 29, 2010, 23:24:30
*laughs* You two boys...  ;D  This is what I was driving around at 17... still am actually... all $2100 dollars of it.


(http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/ac242/spark6/DSC_2832.jpg)
(http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/ac242/spark6/DSCF2256.jpg)


Alright... moment of jealousy over. You may return to your normally scheduled programming!  8)
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: diesel450 on Dec 30, 2010, 00:10:22
you bastard!

really, flat pink would look great!

find my thread... "cb350 built by a teen"

been at it a year and a half. there was a member younger then us, Jared, but his project seemed to kind of fade (lost interest?)

I'm betting you won't be a teen when you finish it!!
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: DrJ on Dec 30, 2010, 14:42:18
You punks have cars at 17? My dad wouldn't let me go near his car until I was over 25. Got my license at 27 and my first car at 30. Then I moved out, permanently.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 31, 2010, 13:59:54
We got the NEW fuel lines cut and put the in line filters on there.
Still in the process of cleaning the gas tank out. Got the wiring straightened out from the diagram i printed.

Also, my brother said he could get my frame powder coated... so i might end up doing that..
probably not though.

I guess im going for the black and silver stealth look ...but i just need to get a tank that doesnt suck...I.E. my orange tank.

for now we will keep the orange tank until i get the bike done... then i can easily change it out..

We got the thing to stay running for about 5 secs last night with Starter fluid... we were checking wiring and learning about the bike...

polished up more of the engine and more of the triple tree.

Going to change the oil soon... and hopefully get the gas tank cleaned soon. Sorry i havent posted in a few days my internet is FUBAR.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: Rocan on Dec 31, 2010, 14:32:08
You punks have cars at 17? My dad wouldn't let me go near his car until I was over 25. Got my license at 27 and my first car at 30. Then I moved out, permanently.

ehh... i would have moved out a WHILE before that! haha.

i dont have my car yet; no place for it in NYC. so really, unless if i get a garage, im going to stick to owning a truck/jeep as i could haul my bike and do well in the winter; ill save a lot on gas riding my 350, so it balances out in the end.

oil should have been first thing you changed man. im going to keep saying it till you do it... get everything in stock condition FIRST!

if she ran for 5 seconds on starter fluid, that means that shes not getting fuel from the carbs. check that the petcock isnt clogged, and that there is fuel in the float bowl.
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Dec 31, 2010, 15:07:34
no no no rocan... i understand that.... haha but this was 5 seconds without a gas tank or gas line running to the carbs.. ha.
 
 Rocan, i don't know what the PO usually used for the oil...
do you guys use 10w 30 or 20w 50
Title: Re: A Kid's CB350: First Retro Motorcycle Ever
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 01, 2011, 12:46:16
Okay guys! got a lot done last night... since i didnt go out partying.
 
Got all of the following ORDERED:
-Brake Lever w/ Perch
-Clutch Lever w/ Perch
-Throttle Control
-Push Pull Assembly
-Copper Exhaust Rings
-Battery
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Also got my seat design Drawn up: Pics soon.
Still working on getting manual...we are getting ink for our printer soon... but i have the .PDF file on my computer downloaded..for reference.
 
Stuff i need to get:
Piping to extend headers
Exhaust tape (going for a non painted look.)
Steel wool for cleaning.
Buffer wheel
Air Filter Pods ( any ideas on Brand to get? )
--------------------------------------------------------
Uploading pics....right now.
 
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Big Rich on Jan 01, 2011, 16:46:12
Go with 10w30. Just make sure it's motorcycle oil. Car oil doesn't agree with wet clutches. Uni filters work great for air flow, but the stock air boxes work best with stock carbs. Have you thought about getting some vm30's? They are pricey, but worth every penny.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 01, 2011, 17:18:53
Go with 10w30. Just make sure it's motorcycle oil. Car oil doesn't agree with wet clutches. Uni filters work great for air flow, but the stock air boxes work best with stock carbs. Have you thought about getting some vm30's? They are pricey, but worth every penny.

oh.. Vm30s? explain?

and i cant put pod filters on? will i have to rejet my stock carbs?
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 01, 2011, 17:25:40
100 2078 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl7pPICrvKI#ws)
 
Decided to take the ole' puch outta the dusty garage and give er' a good run. :)
 
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 01, 2011, 17:29:37
Also heres my mock up for the seat i want. (couldnt get color just right... but i'd like white leather with a black stripe through the middle or black with white..) Comments?
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/Concept2Orangeandblack.jpg)
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Big Rich on Jan 01, 2011, 17:39:19
The stock carbs are cv carbs so they depend on air flowing into them. So putting pods on can mess with the intake. Not impossible, but can be a real pita to tune. Mikuni vm30 carbs are manual carbs. And new. I put vm20's on my old cl175 and it was like night and day.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 01, 2011, 17:46:26
The stock carbs are cv carbs so they depend on air flowing into them. So putting pods on can mess with the intake. Not impossible, but can be a real pita to tune. Mikuni vm30 carbs are manual carbs. And new. I put vm20's on my old cl175 and it was like night and day.

You do know im doing this all on a 1000 dollar budget... right? im down to 500 and i dont even have an exhaust welded up. I need to know whats the cheapest way to make these things work...
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 01, 2011, 20:59:14
cb350 explaination video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctPIbSqNAZw#)

Question & Status Video.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: diesel450 on Jan 01, 2011, 21:59:43
You can get vm30's on ebay for $50 each. That is a c-note well spent. I've heard rumors that the $50 ones are knock-offs but they are stamped mikuni and I've also heard they work well. I'll let you know. I've got a pair in the mail right now!

I also put vm20's on my 200 build and it was night and day the difference.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 01, 2011, 22:09:33
if i get vm30s can i get pod filters?
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: diesel450 on Jan 01, 2011, 23:16:30
yup. and much easier to tune than the stock cv's. as Rich was saying.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 02, 2011, 22:53:01
Found a site where i can get vm30s for 155bucks shipped. thinking about doing that....
 
Anyone wanna tell me reasons why i shouldnt? would i have to change the jets on the stock vm30s? or no...
 
and would i need new throttle cables with vm30s...
 
Parts are still in the mail...so waiting on them...
 in the mean time ive been researching polishing and buffing techniques for aluminum and am still trying to clean my gas tank out..
 
is the petcock supposed to be so bent out sideways?
I got 10w 30 oil that i plan on putting in right before i start the cb350... ive mostly been just cleaning the dirt off of EVERYTHING and getting ready for my parts... was gonna get ink for my printer so i could print off a manual but didnt work like i wanted....
 
Am still looking for exhaust pipes for the bike, need to find for under 50 bucks, without holes in the exhaust...but does matter as long as they run cuz im putting exhaust tape over them. Might faberacate or get someone to faberacate me some pipes...but dont know how hard it is to do... still debating whether to use my J pipe or not...
 
started clearing a well lighted spot in the basement for my custom seat... dont know when ill be doing that.... but for now i think we just play the waiting game.
 
-Blake
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: diesel450 on Jan 03, 2011, 12:35:15
Post pics dude! You will most likely have to mess with jetting so get 3 or 4 sets of Mains and a couple of sizes of pilots to play with once you are set up. The vms make it pretty easy to change the mains so you can experiment on the fly.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 03, 2011, 13:12:48
Seriously holmes... What the hell is a J pipe? Are you just talking about the headers? PICS OF EVERYTHING!!!
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 03, 2011, 13:15:07
Oh... And if your custom seat is going to be fibreglass, DO NOT DO IT IN THE BASEMENT! Very toxic, and VERY smelly. Your whole house will stink and you need very good ventilation.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Swapmeet Louie on Jan 03, 2011, 13:18:02
I think a "J pipe" is a new term for roach-clip...? haha

Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 03, 2011, 17:48:49
I think a "J pipe" is a new term for roach-clip...? haha



No j pipe is the header pipe that i have not bent yet...im wondering if i should just get some crappy ones so i dont have to bend them myself....
What pics do you want!?
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 03, 2011, 19:07:56
If you talk about it or especially if you ask us about it, post a pic. The more pics the better. It makes understanding what youre asking 1000 times easier.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 03, 2011, 20:31:49
I posted a video? cb350 explaination video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctPIbSqNAZw#ws)
I thought it was about 20x better.

ill give you pics:
Heres the jtubing/ jpipe
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2038.jpg)
As you can see the pipe fits my exhaust but can i somehow get it flared on the end to make it work as a header? they say HOOKER on them...1 1/2 in pipe diameter. so i thought it would work...
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(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2027.jpg)
this is a picture to show you that i have no stock airboxes... my dad said no mikunis so ill have to rejet my carbs for pod filters...:) but that may be a pita. as i have heard from MULTIPLE ppl now..
Also i am showing my condition of my alum. cases here... should i just sand them 150, 220, 400, 600wet, on up to 1500 wet? and use soapy water to cut the build up? thats what my shop teacher said would work... so i started to do that tonight.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Big Rich on Jan 03, 2011, 22:14:01
Videos are cool, but sometimes for some people they can be a pita. Like when I'm on my phone for example.

If you do run pods, try to make the intakes as long as possible. And when polishing aluminum,  start with around 440 wet paper. 150 is a little harsh unless there are really deep gauges.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: diesel450 on Jan 03, 2011, 22:25:03
Yeah, i don't even look at the videos unless I think its gonna be really cool, or a naked chick is going to appear. What are you trying to do with that pipe? create a new header pipe? If so you need to create a flange for the collars to grab for mounting. do you have a 350 header? if so you can either weld that flange in or use it as a template for new flange. Not sure what they look like exactly but it could be as simple as sliding a piece of larger diameter pipe over that pipe and welding it in place.

And since when does dad saying "no" to mikunis stop a bad ass builder like you?!?!?!? that is fucking bollocks!! Oh, wait! Dad's footing the bill, right?!
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Bobdot on Jan 03, 2011, 22:27:22
the stock carbs have plenty of potential, and they are not THAT hard to jet, just a bit of trial and error.  Took me some time to figure out with the help of a few people but I ran the piss out of my stock carbs with velocity stacks and open(ish) pipes.  Pods, especially foam ones shouldnt be much different.  For reference, I was running 105/70/35 jets with the floats set at 25mm.  Float height is HUGE with these carbs, a mm or so off can be night and day.  Now pull those carbs!
 
here's a good step by step that i used early on:  http://cb350.blogspot.com/2007/05/carb-rebuild.html (http://cb350.blogspot.com/2007/05/carb-rebuild.html)
 
take pictures of everything as you pull it apart so you have something to reference when you go to put it back together.  Another good thing to do is to do each carb in one sitting.  As soon as you turn your back on them, parts go walking and its harder to remember how it all goes back.
 
bob.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: diesel450 on Jan 03, 2011, 22:52:36
Good advice
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 03, 2011, 22:59:03
Yeah, i don't even look at the videos unless I think its gonna be really cool, or a naked chick is going to appear. What are you trying to do with that pipe? create a new header pipe? If so you need to create a flange for the collars to grab for mounting. do you have a 350 header? if so you can either weld that flange in or use it as a template for new flange. Not sure what they look like exactly but it could be as simple as sliding a piece of larger diameter pipe over that pipe and welding it in place.

And since when does dad saying "no" to mikunis stop a bad ass builder like you?!?!?!? that is fucking bollocks!! Oh, wait! Dad's footing the bill, right?!

Hey buddy, i don't know you, nor do i have anything wrong with you...but i will promise you.... I respect my dad. He gives me a shelter and feeds me... i go to school and work hard... make decent grades come home and i work on my bike. If i have to buy something i do extra chores around the house and work with my dad on the weekends till i earn the money. My dad lets me borrow his tools and shop. If he says Mikunis aren't a good idea i listen too him especially when he's been around cars and bikes since he could walk. Idk if you are just hating on me cuz im a youngin... but its starting to irritate me.
My carbs are just fine. My dad said 150bucks for carbs would be dumb when i can just rejet the ones i have relativly easy and save the money. He said he'd help me with them.

I don't want any trouble guys...im just here to have fun and build something cool..
--------------------

Videos are cool, but sometimes for some people they can be a pita. Like when I'm on my phone for example.

If you do run pods, try to make the intakes as long as possible. And when polishing aluminum,  start with around 440 wet paper. 150 is a little harsh unless there are really deep gauges.
What do you mean make the intakes as long as possible? i thought the intake was just the pod filter?

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the stock carbs have plenty of potential, and they are not THAT hard to jet, just a bit of trial and error.  Took me some time to figure out with the help of a few people but I ran the piss out of my stock carbs with velocity stacks and open(ish) pipes.  Pods, especially foam ones shouldnt be much different.  For reference, I was running 105/70/35 jets with the floats set at 25mm.  Float height is HUGE with these carbs, a mm or so off can be night and day.  Now pull those carbs!
 
here's a good step by step that i used early on:  http://cb350.blogspot.com/2007/05/carb-rebuild.html (http://cb350.blogspot.com/2007/05/carb-rebuild.html)
 
take pictures of everything as you pull it apart so you have something to reference when you go to put it back together.  Another good thing to do is to do each carb in one sitting.  As soon as you turn your back on them, parts go walking and its harder to remember how it all goes back.
 
bob.
Thanks bob.
I'm not gonna take the carbs apart until i know what i need to buy first... I'm guessing a gasket is the only thing besides jets ill need,
STILL NEED MY FKING MANUAL FROM THE COMPUTER... Hah. Been meaning to get to the store....tonight i helped my dad install a furnace in the garage...so maybe possibly we will have a heated garage!!!
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 03, 2011, 23:07:48
and no i'm just trying to make a header pipe, i dont have one.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Bobdot on Jan 03, 2011, 23:09:17
you won't know what you need until you take the carbs apart.  do you need new diaphrams because they are dried and cracked?  do you need new floats because they have pinholes in them or someone else tried to solder them rendering them useless?  is your needle clean?  I'm not giving this info because I want to watch you struggle, I'm (we're) giving this info because its what needs to be done and its how you do it.
 
bob.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: diesel450 on Jan 03, 2011, 23:13:25
Just ribbing not hating. Where I come from ball busting is part of the deal. Glad you have a good thing going with your dad. That is very important. As are hard work and good grades. Thats the hard thing about the net, tone is sometimes hard to read. I was just teasing you.

You are asking for advice though, so that is what you are going to get and a lot of conflicting advice as well. Fact is that yes, you can definitely make your stock carbs work, no doubt, as long as they aren't all pitted etc. they will perform just fine. however my opinion is that Mikunis will give you better performance, reliability and ease of use, thats all I'm saying its up to you to decide what's important to you.



You need to find the profile for the header, you have to basically replicate the flange. DCC sells flanges for that bike that you can weld to your exhaust.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 03, 2011, 23:14:41
okay. Then off to the garage.
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Post by: B L A K E on Jan 03, 2011, 23:16:05
Just ribbing not hating. Where I come from ball busting is part of the deal. Glad you have a good thing going with your dad. That is very important. As are hard work and good grades. Thats the hard thing about the net, tone is sometimes hard to read. I was just teasing you.

You are asking for advice though, so that is what you are going to get and a lot of conflicting advice as well. Fact is that yes, you can definitely make your stock carbs work, no doubt, as long as they aren't all pitted etc. they will perform just fine. however my opinion is that Mikunis will give you better performance, reliability and ease of use, thats all I'm saying its up to you to decide what's important to you.



You need to find the profile for the header, you have to basically replicate the flange. DCC sells flanges for that bike that you can weld to your exhaust.

yeah i think i took it the wrong way... Anyways.... Let me take my carbs apart and see what the damage is.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 04, 2011, 00:14:09
Okay i went outside and got both carbs taken off ( thats a start )

Started taking apart the left side carb and had a little difficulty:
the bottom bowl that houses the float and jets and such....well...lets just say its locked up so tight i dont wanna try and pry it open, when i tilted the carb to the side it sounded like i hurt loose parts jingling around... uploading pics right now.... Ill have them before 10:30 tonight.
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Post by: B L A K E on Jan 04, 2011, 00:17:16
Heres the diaphram and what it looks like... It was sealed pretty tight to the carb housing... im guessing thats a good thing? but now its not since i pulled it out.
White residue on ONE small edge of the diaphram???
 
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2109.jpg)
 
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2115.jpg)
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Post by: B L A K E on Jan 04, 2011, 00:20:07
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2116.jpg)

Im not for sure what this is called but it looked like i should take a pic of it. I know thats the needle or something... on it. haha. wow i need to learn my shit before i take stuff apart... im taking plenty of pics so i dont loose stuff.
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Post by: B L A K E on Jan 04, 2011, 00:21:36
The bottom bowl screws that hold the bowl on...they had some white chalky crusty brittle residue that fell out of them when i took them out... (http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2119.jpg)
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Post by: B L A K E on Jan 04, 2011, 00:24:41
(by now youve noticed my fked up thumb... i hope)
see above if you havent...

and finally...the valve looked new? is this a sign of a rebuild? or a bad sign!?
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2120.jpg)

This is the silcon-like material i found lining the bottom of the seal of the bowl...im pretty positive its glued shut but im not 100% maybe its just really hard to get open.
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2122.jpg)
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Post by: B L A K E on Jan 04, 2011, 00:26:12
Those are all the pics i have for tonight guys... I hope that was helpful.
 
Heres the PHOTOBUCKET LINK for more pics http://s186.photobucket.com/upload/albums/Ares570/ (http://s186.photobucket.com/upload/albums/Ares570/)
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: bikeboy on Jan 04, 2011, 03:53:44
Those carbs look OK. That looks like hondabond or similar used to seal that bowl. Some of it has hit the screw. Nothing serious, but you need to remove it all for re-assembly. Pry it open gently. Stock is just a gasket/o-ring with no help from adhesives. That butterfly valve could be original. They usually stay clean, and are rarely replaced. Needle looks good too, but you might want to run some 0000 steel wool over the slide to remove some grunge.

Looks about normal so far. Wait and see what's under the bowl. That's where the real mess usually is ;-)

cheers
ian
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Post by: Big Rich on Jan 04, 2011, 08:31:56
Ya man, they don't look too bad at all. Last time I took cv carbs apart there was sand and black silicone everywhere. Needless to say, I was apalled.

When I said to keep the intakes long, I meant to extend the connection between the carb and the air filter. Try to tune without it first, but if you have a hard time just keep it in mind. And what the hell did you do to your thumb? Didn't anybody tell you those are important? :D
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 04, 2011, 09:39:58
Ya man, they don't look too bad at all. Last time I took cv carbs apart there was sand and black silicone everywhere. Needless to say, I was apalled.

When I said to keep the intakes long, I meant to extend the connection between the carb and the air filter. Try to tune without it first, but if you have a hard time just keep it in mind. And what the hell did you do to your thumb? Didn't anybody tell you those are important? :D

Thanks big rich.

Thanks everybody as a matter of fact!

And whats honda bond? something i need to order when i reinstall my carbs with new gaskets,jets ect?


My thumb? idk its just a wart i think...and i need to go to the dermitologist.

So it IS okay to pry on the bottom bowl if i do it gently? crap wont go flyin all over the place?
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Big Rich on Jan 04, 2011, 09:49:57
Hondabond (also known as Yamabond, Suzukibond, etc) is used when reassembling an engine. NOT for putting carbs together.


Try gently tapping around the float bowl with a rubber mallet, sometimes they just kinda "stick". I'm not saying that crap won't fly everywhere, so do it over a large towl or something.
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Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 04, 2011, 11:25:51
Hey man... Order that manual yet?
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Post by: DrJ on Jan 04, 2011, 11:42:37
Hey man... Order that manual yet?

DTT is the manual :D
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Post by: Big Rich on Jan 04, 2011, 11:52:30
Ha! But he said he has one on his computer, just no printer.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 04, 2011, 12:10:16
DTT is the manual :D

It seems that way!
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: diesel450 on Jan 04, 2011, 13:54:56
Most of the inards in the float bowl area are screwed in or attached in some fashion even if its just varnished in. The jets have their size stamped on them so make a note of what size jet goes where.

If I were you I'd stop right now and get A. your carb rebuild kits (if you don't already have them) B. a gallon can of carb cleaner with the little parts basket in it. and C. the manual. Have these things on hand and then take apart one carb at a time. The carb kits generally give you more than you really need. If your careful and can get the jets all out with out fucking them up (use penetrating lubricant and patience) then you don't generally need to replace them unless you are re-jetting for other reasons. you really only need to replace the gasket and the float needles as they are the things that wear out. Hold your slide diaphragm up to the light and look for cracks or pin holes. yours look pretty good but you never know. once everything is apart put it all in the basket and soak it in the cleaner overnight. DO NOT PUT the slide in or the diaphragm may get ruined, you have to clean that with some steel wool and cleaner. when you pull the parts out of the soak, clean them off and then blast out all the little passages with compressed air. the little lever handle gun with a rubber tip on it is great for this. make sure you get a good blast air through every little hole you can find. This is also a good way to gain an understanding of how air is moved through the carb. you want to see a little blast of cleaner come out the other end of each of the passages. do the same with the jets you removed. You may need to pass some wire through the jets to clear them. old guitar strings are great for this.

keep things organized and do one carb at a time and its pretty easy. one thing; if your slides are fucked then your looking at new carbs anyway because those things cost like $60 each. At that point imo it makes sense to pony up for new carbs
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Post by: Rocan on Jan 04, 2011, 17:15:23
still looking at your carbs?

yeahhh, im not worried about beating you at alllll... xD

agreed... get yourself a carb rebuild kit.

really blake, im not going to tell you the simple things anymore. do the basics. then modify. im helping you out; otherwise id just tell you to tear into your motor right now!
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Post by: B L A K E on Jan 04, 2011, 19:02:07
got the manual printed so ill be reading some of that tonight.

dont have exhaust put on so dad says i cant mess with the float bowl until we put the exhuast on. Sorry guys thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Rocan on Jan 04, 2011, 23:15:33
exhaust goes on in a snap. replace exhaust gaskets; air leak in exhaust is a BITCH to figure out and can at times make your bike run like utter crap.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 05, 2011, 00:27:53
exhaust goes on in a snap. replace exhaust gaskets; air leak in exhaust is a BITCH to figure out and can at times make your bike run like utter crap.

I got the exhaust gaskets ordered...have had them ordered for a week now... hopefully i get them soon... idk how im going to get a header though... i wanna make it outta my pipes i got but i need the template. And WOW this manual... is such a big help..haha finally starting to get into it... and i see why you guys told me to get it... haha.
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Post by: Big Rich on Jan 05, 2011, 00:47:23
It's like a new bible, right?

But any spots where it depends on a pic in the explanation can get a little sketchy. Just because of the pic quality.
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Post by: B L A K E on Jan 05, 2011, 19:40:06
yeah rich! like a bible.. but less jesus. a lot less. :(
 
Anyways my battery came in today! Im goin to hang with a small group of friends soo ill throw the battery on the charger for a little while after i put the electrolytes in it.
 
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2123.jpg)
 
Also got some polishing work started...ready for the long haul .... steel wool, 400grit paper, 600wet, and 1500, with soap and water.
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2127.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2129.jpg)
and of course a mask! aluminum oxide sucks!
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2131.jpg)
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Rocan on Jan 05, 2011, 20:54:24
you look like a punk ass.  ;)

haha... yeah, aluminum blows (after buffing without a mask i always blow black snot/spit. terrible stuff, but i never put a mask on as its a PITA)

youve got a LOT of practice to do with the buffing. go back to 400... one direction, wet, with a touch of soap. ONE DIRECTION. then go to 600, wet, in the PERPENDICULAR direction. then from 600 up to 1000, again crossing direction. at this point i usually hit it with the buffing wheel (emory rouge with a sisal wheel) but if your just hand polishing i would go 1500 grit, opposite direction, then 2000, switching direction again. always wet sand, and keep your sandpaper clean. you should not see ANY of the rougher grit scratches by the time your reaching for the next level up.


this is the finish you should have after 600 or so.

(http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww317/Transane/CB350%20Day%2011/IMG_1281.jpg)

see the uniformity of the scratches?


if you ever get a buffer... expect to spend HOURS in this position...

(http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww317/Transane/CB350%20Day%2011/IMG_1300.jpg)


heres a pic of the first piece i ever buffed (took about 20 hours or so). Notice the fine scratches in the side cover?

(http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww317/Transane/CB350%20Day%206/IMG_0199.jpg)


and where i am now (about 20 hours for both fork legs! you get faster as time goes on, and WAY better; these parts looked like SHIT when i started)

(http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww317/Transane/CB350%20Day%2015/IMG_2069.jpg)
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Post by: Big Rich on Jan 05, 2011, 21:54:40
Just want to add: wet sanding aluminum with 400 & 600 sucks. It feels like it takes forever to get out the previous scratches. But once you get into the finer grits, they come out much easier.
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Post by: Rocan on Jan 05, 2011, 22:33:44
Just want to add: wet sanding aluminum with 400 & 600 sucks. It feels like it takes forever to get out the previous scratches. But once you get into the finer grits, they come out much easier.

agreed.

you can, at some point, use power tools to do the sanding etc, but i REALLY do not recommend it until you are well seasoned with polishing (im just getting into it, and have over 100 hours of polishing under my belt (estimated)).
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Post by: B L A K E on Jan 06, 2011, 01:29:36
those look great Rocan, but as soon as i get my exhaust on and my carbs tuned, and my pod filters on... my bikes gonna be ridable then ill make the seat in about a weeks worth of time......so umm GET ON YOURS or im gonna win,
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Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 06, 2011, 12:30:11
Rideable, is not done my man... hahaha...
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Post by: B L A K E on Jan 06, 2011, 17:33:51
ohhh i know that...
im just saying... ill have my seat done soon after...THEN ill be done.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 06, 2011, 19:44:20
Okay guys heres todays update:

No parts in yet...still waiting so doing some more polishing on my cases tonight..
got some 1000 grit wetdry paper and some more sand paper that i needed.
Got some more florists foam so gonna work on that.
Pics later...
-Thanks for tuning in!
:) blake.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Rocan on Jan 06, 2011, 20:16:50
if you put on a "cafe seat" and just hammer in the tank or something stupid and call it "done" or a "cafe" i dont care if youve "won" as youll get zero respect from me (or most people on the site!) for doing that.

if i wanted that, i could be done next week. hell, theres more time into my forks alone then your entire bike! ;)

now get back to work, and that bike better be PERFECT by the time you call it "done"
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Post by: JRK5892 on Jan 06, 2011, 20:18:34
looking good man!
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Post by: B L A K E on Jan 06, 2011, 20:36:25
My paper i got for polishing aluminum
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2138.jpg)

My foam seat mold i started today.
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2143.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2141.jpg)
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Rocan on Jan 06, 2011, 21:43:19
elmers glue? that stuff hold? i would HATE to have my foam come apart halfway though glassing.
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Post by: B L A K E on Jan 06, 2011, 23:10:10
elmers glue? that stuff hold? i would HATE to have my foam come apart halfway though glassing.

i'm going to tape up my mold before i glass... so i can reuse it if something goes wrong. Masking tape or painters tape probably painters tape.

Just got done sanding up to 1000, need to take pics tommarow to show you guys.. but it looks great!!
Thanks for all the tips Rocan, and everyone else.

It really helped...

So i need to find headers for both sides, ive given up using my headers cuz the headers for the original bike are double walled steel... :(
or so i hear...

So ill buy a cheapo pair for 50 bucks and exhaust wrap them.
problem solved.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 08, 2011, 15:18:27
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2164.jpg)
Wow, My office was freezing so i foamed the gap and the temp went up 14 degrees haha.
Thats what i did this morning but i also did a bit more.
started carving up seat whilst i wait for my other parts
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2144.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2160.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2159.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2163.jpg)

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Post by: B L A K E on Jan 08, 2011, 15:22:57
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/Mobile%20Uploads/0108111212.jpg)
Took this on my phone sorry.
but this is what it looks like on the bike.
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Post by: JRK5892 on Jan 08, 2011, 15:36:23
have to say i like the round seat 1000% better
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Post by: B L A K E on Jan 08, 2011, 15:46:52
have to say i like the round seat 1000% better

awh man. im not done with my squarish one. i still got sanding to do. you'll like it trust me..
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Post by: B L A K E on Jan 09, 2011, 01:04:52
So still no parts... Looking for HEADERS. i Really need some cheap headers for like 30bucks for both or less...
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Big Rich on Jan 09, 2011, 01:16:25
Are you looking for cl or cb headers? Could try posting in the "buying" section if you haven't already.
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Post by: HerrDeacon on Jan 09, 2011, 08:05:29
I believe someone recently posted CL headers in the Selling section.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 09, 2011, 12:41:58
Posted in the buying section... still no response... i dont want CL headers i want some cb headers... is 55 bucks shipped a good deal if they are rusty? im going to wrap them anyways.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Big Rich on Jan 09, 2011, 19:44:52
I would say so. The shipping on something that odd shaped is gonna be around 15 or 20 bucks anyway.

And if they are rusty, they will need media blasted and painted before they get wrapped.
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Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 09, 2011, 20:54:49
$55 isnt bad at all as long as the pipes have no holes in them. I recently sent a set of CB headers and shipping was $23 I think.

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Post by: Ringo on Jan 10, 2011, 00:34:22
Gotta say I agree with Joe.  Once you get the angular seat on the same level as the tank it will look too short.  I say rock the round one.  Besides your tank is so curvy, it'd look better with roundness instead of angular-ness.  My .02 for what it's worth.
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Post by: B L A K E on Jan 10, 2011, 18:19:27
GOT PARTS! WOOT!!!
copper gaskets for exhaust(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2207.jpg)
 
Push pull throttle
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2206.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2205.jpg)
 
Clutch and Brake levers.
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2204.jpg)
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Post by: B L A K E on Jan 10, 2011, 18:56:24
Also Revamping the foam...i started to see how bad it looks... looking at it more closely i trimed a few lines down..with a marker...what do you guys think?
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2203.jpg)
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Post by: B L A K E on Jan 11, 2011, 19:12:53
Just ordered my exhaust hope it gets here in a few days! then i slap that on... with my exhaust rings, get some internal mufflers and clean my gas tank and we can start the tuning/jetting.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: JoeTee on Jan 11, 2011, 22:22:12

haha... yeah, aluminum blows (after buffing without a mask i always blow black snot/spit. terrible stuff, but i never put a mask on as its a PITA)

Although it has not been confirmed, aluminum was/is thought to possibly cause Alzheimer's Disease.  Polishing aluminum creates very fine particles that are inhaled, thats the black snot that you refereed to.  Whether its true or not, I throw on a mask when polishing now, there cheap!  So why risk it?!  And glasses!  if you use a wire wheel to clean anything with that same wheel that your polishing with in your picture, you will definitely get shit in ur eyes.  I had a single wire fly off the wheel and stick in the plastic lens of my glasses while cleaning a part!

Seat Idea looks good Blake, im lookin forward to see how it comes out. 
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Post by: B L A K E on Jan 11, 2011, 22:26:48
Thanks joe!

My thread seems to be dying down? not too many ppl posting ideas or suggestions, i got the seat roughed out almost perfectly to what i want it to be..
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: JoeTee on Jan 11, 2011, 22:32:41
Thats how it goes with traffic on a thread.  Usually big progress updates yield more comments/input.  I think you got a little spoiled, your first post was on Dec 22, and you already have 2,362 views! Keep at it dude!
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Post by: B L A K E on Jan 11, 2011, 22:45:17
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2219.jpg) Im not liking the stance....at all... with me on it...its just so low... maybe a good rearset would change that...and a seat and tank also :p

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2225.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2226.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2223.jpg)
compare contrast, and debate! i want opinions!


looking for a good inexpensive resin for my seat, but wondering where to start...

doing all this while i wait for my headers.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: JoeTee on Jan 11, 2011, 23:24:56
I like the round seat better out of the two IMO.  U plan on running with your side covers on or off?  R u keeping the battery in the stock location or relocating?  I'm in the process of fiber glassing my seat on my build thread,  I just used the home depot 3m resin and bought 2 packs of the fiberglass cloth.  First coat is dry, rock hard and very tough.  I made a rounded seat big enough for my battery and all electronics.  I like a clean tubular open air look.  So my vote goes to rounded.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 11, 2011, 23:27:56
keeping the battery box where it is until i finish the bike. im using the squarish seat because thats what i like... but im running side covers off with pod filters... so itll look fine... ill probably fab up something for a cover to disguise my battery box.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Rocan on Jan 12, 2011, 02:37:54
meh, ive seen both styles used more then i care to think about...

i say keep hacking till you come up with something a BIT more original ;)

otherwise, i like square one, long as tank match. license plate mounts to it better
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Big Rich on Jan 12, 2011, 05:21:29
Don't listen to Rocan - there's a very good chance that 90 percent of the people that see your bike in person will have never seen EITHER seat shape.


But I do agree about the square-ish seat. It's easier to mount, easier to hide square things underneath (battery for one), and the tail light / license plate will be easier to mount too. As far as the battery box goes......no matter what you do it will still be a battery box. As long as it's not a rusted eye sore, go for it.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Rocan on Jan 12, 2011, 18:00:06
big rich is right.
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Post by: B L A K E on Jan 13, 2011, 01:43:15
big rich is right.
seriously? was this a needed comment?
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Big Rich on Jan 13, 2011, 05:44:58
seriously? was this a needed comment?

Was this? All Rocan was saying was that he agreed with me. Nothing to get worked up about.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 13, 2011, 09:46:40
Sorry, i'm getting frustrated with my build. I dont need to take it out on rocan.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 13, 2011, 09:58:29
Frustration is part of the game man. All good. Sometimes you just have to step away and chill out a bit. Dont rush anything. Thats how mistakes get made and you get hurt.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: diesel450 on Jan 13, 2011, 12:00:13
Yes! And don't listen to Rocan when it comes to safety gear. Wear it. Everytime. though I don't really worry about Roc too much as it doesn't seem like he's doing much of anything anyway! :-)

Blake - why ask for opinions etc. on the seat if you had already decided to use the square one? just wondering.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 13, 2011, 23:22:09
I ask for opinions because i might have missed something that could potentially change my mind...

Still waiting for headers...
Hopefully friday (cross fingers)
Till then, not much work,

QUESTION THOUGH:

Can you put inline mufflers, like little tiny ones... inside of the stock headers,? so i can just run short pipes? if so where can i find them?
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Big Rich on Jan 14, 2011, 00:09:41
Well, the exhaust system will work best at it's tuned length. So as long as it's not TOO short you could make some little baffles to fit inside the pipes. Check out the $50 mod thread on how to make them.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 15, 2011, 01:43:58
Okay!

now for the fun! Running to the store tommarow morning to get some jets for my carbs, and then i'm going to order some pod filters:

48mm or 50mm Pods? just wondering,

and K&N pods or genaric? whats worth getting?

Then, i need to know what diameter of pip to get for straight pipes,
then i'm going to make baffles using one of the threads on here..i was searching around

Then for the tuning.

WILL HAVE PICS OF EVERYTHING!
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 15, 2011, 10:46:19
 
Measure youre carb for the filters. Measure your pipes for the dia. and so on...
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Jewbacca on Jan 15, 2011, 10:55:21
K&N filters are washable, no-name ones "aren't". If you have access to a compressor, then you can clean out the no-name filters and save yourself about $10 each.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 15, 2011, 12:41:31
Thanks guys,

so K&N filters are better?
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 15, 2011, 14:33:13
As far as performance, no not REALLY... They will last longer as they are washable. The others need replaced every so often. If you can afford K&Ns buy em.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 15, 2011, 14:39:00
i can afford them but i mean, Whats the point of buying something that will last longer when ill probably sell my cb350 for a cb750 a year after i start riding it.

I got some extra parts laying around if anyone wants to buy them for cheap:
Nice stock handlebars
fork light ears
shock covers for front,
rear shocks with Good chrome but not perfect
i have a bunch of little pieces for controls if you dont wanna buy them ill ship some of the pieces to you if you pay shipping.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: barnicle on Jan 15, 2011, 17:47:14
I ask for opinions because i might have missed something that could potentially change my mind...


Can you put inline mufflers, like little tiny ones... inside of the stock headers,? so i can just run short pipes? if so where can i find them?
yes.
what you are looking for are baffles try ebay for a pic., and prices/purchase. I found some short pipes that already had the baffle installed, but I got them second hand so I don't have a good source -they might be on Ebay. my bike is a 360 and its pipes are an inch and a half. The 350 is probably about the same -you should check though. I like mine with the foot long extensions. That gets the exhaust  just behind my foot, and the gives it a deeper, more throaty  sound than it has with just the header -longer than one foot might sound even better.
http://www.toolparts.co.uk/acatalog/baffle-2.jpg (http://www.toolparts.co.uk/acatalog/baffle-2.jpg)
this is what the ones I have are like (if you took them out of the tail pipe) -though mine are only 4inch,which is still kinda loud- 8inch should give more back pressure and make it a bit quieter, -depending what you are going for tuning and sound wise.
p.s. I would search ebay motors " motorcycle exhaust baffle"
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 15, 2011, 22:28:54
i can afford them but i mean, Whats the point of buying something that will last longer when ill probably sell my cb350 for a cb750 a year after i start riding it.

I got some extra parts laying around if anyone wants to buy them for cheap:
Nice stock handlebars
fork light ears
shock covers for front,
rear shocks with Good chrome but not perfect
i have a bunch of little pieces for controls if you dont wanna buy them ill ship some of the pieces to you if you pay shipping.

If youre just building a bike because you want to sell it, than stop asking us for help unless you plan cutting us in on the action. If you want to build a bike to love and have fun on we'll be here to help. You're probobly a really good kid, but fuck man... Ill say it again, buy a manual, take some measurements of your own, and build a bike because you want it to be a great bike. If you just want a piece of metal to sell, than do a resto and go on. Theres no shame in that. Maybe Im wrong here. Thats fine. But you ask for deals, you ask for tons of help, (again all good) but I havent seen you post in anyone other that Rocans thread and certainly not in any helpful ways. I may be out of line here, and Im sorry if I am, but youre only getting what you put in my man.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: diesel450 on Jan 15, 2011, 22:51:30
I have no issue with building to sell, I'm doing that too for the most part but. I agree that you have to give back and  you have to do your own homework with the assistance of the forum. Not wanting to sound like an old codger here, but I find a lot of younger people have a "I-don't-need-to-know-it/do it-myself-I have-the-internet mentality.

The manual has basically all the info you need in it to rebuild a bike.

Yes, ask questions, but do some basic research first and please do chime in on other threads. I'm betting you aren't even reading many other threads and if you took a little time to do so a lot of your questions would be answered. If you are reading, chime in once in a while and say, "thanks for that bit of info, it helped." that would go a long way. and before you know it you'll be answering the newbs questions.

In short you are coming off as a "taker" and a humorless one at that.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 16, 2011, 01:31:51
I have no issue with building to sell, I'm doing that too for the most part but. I agree that you have to give back and  you have to do your own homework with the assistance of the forum. Not wanting to sound like an old codger here, but I find a lot of younger people have a "I-don't-need-to-know-it/do it-myself-I have-the-internet mentality.

The manual has basically all the info you need in it to rebuild a bike.

Yes, ask questions, but do some basic research first and please do chime in on other threads. I'm betting you aren't even reading many other threads and if you took a little time to do so a lot of your questions would be answered. If you are reading, chime in once in a while and say, "thanks for that bit of info, it helped." that would go a long way. and before you know it you'll be answering the newbs questions.

In short you are coming off as a "taker" and a humorless one at that.

Sorry, I intend to help people once i know what the hell im talking about, but im trying to be humble because i DONT know very much. Sorry that im Ignorant a lot of the time, and sorry that i dont give thanks as much as i should but if you look back i do give thanks. Ill try to be more helpful to the newbs but i'm still learning in life about EVERYTHING. The whole self-centered thing is something i need to work on not doing. i have the manual but i dont see a part in the manual about the baffles at all, or pipe measurements, do i need a clymers manual as well?

If youre just building a bike because you want to sell it, than stop asking us for help unless you plan cutting us in on the action. If you want to build a bike to love and have fun on we'll be here to help. You're probobly a really good kid, but fuck man... Ill say it again, buy a manual, take some measurements of your own, and build a bike because you want it to be a great bike. If you just want a piece of metal to sell, than do a resto and go on. Theres no shame in that. Maybe Im wrong here. Thats fine. But you ask for deals, you ask for tons of help, (again all good) but I havent seen you post in anyone other that Rocans thread and certainly not in any helpful ways. I may be out of line here, and Im sorry if I am, but youre only getting what you put in my man.

i dont know much about anything, and i post in Rocans thread for encouragement, he helps me a lot, and i would post in others' threads but you guys wouldn't benefit from any of the knowledge i have because you've basically taught me everything i know about bikes.
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On a lighter note, i have handlebar controls for the rightside mounted but not hooked up, i have levers and throttle hooked up and ready to go, i got my headers mounted, and i got ahold of someone who is going to do my seat pan uphosltry for cheap and i got ahold of someone for my seat glassing.

pics soon, sorry my camera has been acting up.

-thanks for all who helped me to the point! you deserve a lot more then i can give. :)
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: crazypj on Jan 16, 2011, 01:53:29
Thanks guys,

so K&N filters are better?

 Yes, actually they are much better built and fit carbs without restricting flow (at least the older models did, I haven't needed to buy any for about 7 yrs  ;D )
 The cheap Chinese filters are 'one size fits nothing properly'
 I bought a set of 4 because they were so cheap.
 The filter part is as good or bad as K&N but the rubber mountings SUCK
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 16, 2011, 02:06:25
Sorry for bein shitty man. I hear ya. What I was trying to say came across wrong. Also, PJ is right. The filter material isnt bad, but the rubber is crap. And, when it comes to measurements, forget the book. Get some calipers, and a tape measure and do it yourself man. Books and the web cant tell ya everyhing.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Big Rich on Jan 16, 2011, 02:12:27
While K&N filters are great, the rubber surrounding the actual filter can interfere with fitting too. Check out their site before you buy them- they give really good measurements of all their filters. And if you do run into a problem, don't hesitate to get Uni filters instead. They may not look as pretty, but work well.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 16, 2011, 04:44:58
Sorry for bein shitty man. I hear ya. What I was trying to say came across wrong. Also, PJ is right. The filter material isnt bad, but the rubber is crap. And, when it comes to measurements, forget the book. Get some calipers, and a tape measure and do it yourself man. Books and the web cant tell ya everyhing.
hey, its okay man. I need to get off my bum and do something i cant have you guys do everything. I needed something like your post any way... it motivated me. because i just taped and labeled all my wires and polished a large portion of my cases.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 16, 2011, 13:14:58
Right on man. Keep at it. Everyone is here to help, but you have to put some footwork in too. Looks like youre willing to do that and get this scoot all wrapped up. Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: barnicle on Jan 16, 2011, 14:11:21
As far as the baffles none of my manuals mantion exaust masuremants. As far as the baffle size I have only seen 1.5" and 2 inch,on e-bay.  The 1.5" should look a little too small when you get it in the pipe, but it should still work fine. As far as the pipe for extending the length you could measure and stop buy a auto parts store /ask if they have it. I tried this with no luck. Or you could take the whole header in to a mufler shop and ask if they have something that fits -Just so they know exactly what you are talking about.

P.s. as far as giving back, it can be as simple as recommending a thread you found useful, to someone with a problem you have already had to deal with.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 16, 2011, 15:03:57
All you need for the pipe is a measurement of the o.d. and the wall thickness. Than find some pipe that matches up. As far as baffles, measure the i.d. of the pipe. Find/make baffles to fit.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: diesel450 on Jan 16, 2011, 16:48:10
I made baffles with copper tubing (twisted's thread) for the 200, worked great! took just enough of the "Ping" out of the exhaust note and got rid of a lot of the little popping etc. when you let off the throttle from high rpm. The latter was probably just a tuning/jetting issue but the baffle solved it without me having to re-jet again.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 16, 2011, 18:52:45
I made baffles with copper tubing (twisted's thread) for the 200, worked great! took just enough of the "Ping" out of the exhaust note and got rid of a lot of the little popping etc. when you let off the throttle from high rpm. The latter was probably just a tuning/jetting issue but the baffle solved it without me having to re-jet again.
i saw twistedz thread, thats really a great one...i plan on either buying some copper tubing and using that thread, or buying some little mini mufflers from JC whittney for 30 bucks a piece... anyone had any luck with those?
All you need for the pipe is a measurement of the o.d. and the wall thickness. Than find some pipe that matches up. As far as baffles, measure the i.d. of the pipe. Find/make baffles to fit.

Caliper for O.D. and what do i use for I.D.?
As far as the baffles none of my manuals mantion exaust masuremants. As far as the baffle size I have only seen 1.5" and 2 inch,on e-bay.  The 1.5" should look a little too small when you get it in the pipe, but it should still work fine. As far as the pipe for extending the length you could measure and stop buy a auto parts store /ask if they have it. I tried this with no luck. Or you could take the whole header in to a mufler shop and ask if they have something that fits -Just so they know exactly what you are talking about.

P.s. as far as giving back, it can be as simple as recommending a thread you found useful, to someone with a problem you have already had to deal with.


Yeah i'm surprised the manual doesn't list them at all....
Right on man. Keep at it. Everyone is here to help, but you have to put some footwork in too. Looks like youre willing to do that and get this scoot all wrapped up. Looking forward to it.

hoping to get it ridable by warm weather season. i'll still be 17 till sept 28th but i can ride it around my neighborhood and practice right? :b folks dont mind me riding my 80cc yamaha around..

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Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 16, 2011, 19:45:31
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Latex Paint over my foam
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Petcock inspection, Needs work,

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Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Big Rich on Jan 16, 2011, 20:43:51
Everything is coming along pretty good. I may have missed it, but if your petcock is thy nasty, your tank will need cleaned too. And if you measure the outer diameter of the pipes, usually they are only about 1/16" thick per side. So subtract 1/8". Unless you measure the bent part of the headers- I think those are double walled tubing.

And which mini muffs are you looking at? You could post a pic or a link.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 16, 2011, 21:32:58
http://www.jcwhitney.com/chrome-plated-replacement-mufflers/p2006468.jcwx?filterid=c14658o40j3 (http://www.jcwhitney.com/chrome-plated-replacement-mufflers/p2006468.jcwx?filterid=c14658o40j3)

The 12" Shorty or maybe the shorty seamless megaphone
Would those not work?

suggestions?
and thanks big rich, i just got the calipers out of the garage, the pipes are double walled so the chrome doesn't discolor at the headers...but thats not much of a problem, considering my chrome is rust colored, ha.

UPDATE: I have my Ignition switch wired to work with a push of a button,
I found out my headlight + Bulb are still working!!!!!! HIGH BEAM AND LOW! :) :)
Thats pretty sweet ill post a pic in a sec.


I need to go to the store tommarow and drop off my seat to be glasses and get some butt connectors, in the mean time I need to order my pods and mufflers!!!!!! WE ARE ALMOST TO THE FINE TUNING! WOOT WOOT! Thanks for everyone that helped me so far!!
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Big Rich on Jan 16, 2011, 21:54:43
I've used the shorty megaphones a couple times and they work great. The end cap unbolts and you can mess with the baffle (louder, quieter, etc). But they do cost almost twice as much as the 12" shorties.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 16, 2011, 22:07:24
hmmm, maybe its worth it if i can adjust loudness...ur talking about the 56dollar dunstall ones right?
http://www.jcwhitney.com/dunstall-style-megaphone-muffler/p2006467.jcwx?filterid=j3 (http://www.jcwhitney.com/dunstall-style-megaphone-muffler/p2006467.jcwx?filterid=j3)
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Big Rich on Jan 16, 2011, 22:53:30
No, sorry. These are the ones I've used:

http://www.jcwhitney.com/chrome-plated-replacement-mufflers/p2006468.jcwx?skuId=142715&filterid=j3 (http://www.jcwhitney.com/chrome-plated-replacement-mufflers/p2006468.jcwx?skuId=142715&filterid=j3)
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: barnicle on Jan 16, 2011, 23:23:40
those shortys look pretty cool. I do like the idea of modifying your sound that is very tempting.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 17, 2011, 01:09:05
i wish i could find some cheap cheap ones that were really good like under 40 bucks for two.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Big Rich on Jan 17, 2011, 01:30:04
Join the club man.......
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: barnicle on Jan 17, 2011, 13:07:23
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Pair-1-1-2-DRAG-PIPE-Mini-EXHAUST-BAFFLES-Motorcycle-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3363b67695QQitemZ220716234389QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Pair-1-1-2-DRAG-PIPE-Mini-EXHAUST-BAFFLES-Motorcycle-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3363b67695QQitemZ220716234389QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)
for the money...
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 17, 2011, 13:31:14
Those will barely reduce the noise. They will make the exhaust sound better, but you really need proper baffles or mufflers.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 17, 2011, 19:40:31
Those will barely reduce the noise. They will make the exhaust sound better, but you really need proper baffles or mufflers.

explain what a proper baffle is? got links.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Rocan on Jan 17, 2011, 20:05:13
a proper baffle converts sound energy into heat energy. usually consists of a constricting tube with many holes in it with fiberglass of some sort (exhaust packing) wrapped around it, then secured into your exhaust pipe.

see the 50 dollar mod thread for one.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 18, 2011, 09:02:51
ahh dont really wanna make my baffles... i think im going with the 12" shortys rocan. what would be the disadvantages of that?
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Maritime on Jan 18, 2011, 09:27:05
I have 12" emgo shortys on my 450 twin.  I have the header pipes, then 8" of galvanized exhaust pipe from the auto parts store then the shorty's, they work, but they are still kind of loud.  If I have to start the bike early in the morning I don't rev it or I will piss off the neighbors.  let it idle to warm up then drive it witht he clutch until I am far enough away.....Then full throttle and love the sound  ;D   Not too loud to get pulled over either, but louder than stock pipes for sure.
 
Cheersm
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 18, 2011, 11:22:15
I have 12" emgo shortys on my 450 twin.  I have the header pipes, then 8" of galvanized exhaust pipe from the auto parts store then the shorty's, they work, but they are still kind of loud.  If I have to start the bike early in the morning I don't rev it or I will piss off the neighbors.  let it idle to warm up then drive it witht he clutch until I am far enough away.....Then full throttle and love the sound  ;D   Not too loud to get pulled over either, but louder than stock pipes for sure.
 
Cheersm

Oooo do you have pics?
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Maritime on Jan 18, 2011, 12:33:41
Not the prettiest at the moment but she is in parts again now that there is 3 feet of snow and gettting some work.  I need to weld the exaust together, currently clamped.  But no leeks after 3000 miles of riding this summer.
 
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Thinking of possibley bending or getting pre bent pipe before I weld to angle the pipes up some.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 18, 2011, 18:42:57
nice do you have a link where you bought them?
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 18, 2011, 21:49:54
nice do you have a link where you bought them?

www.google.com (http://www.google.com) ;)
 
Search "emgo shorty".
 
You can also try JC Whitney, Ebay, Dennis Kirk, etc...
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 19, 2011, 23:59:30
so with budget in mind...i decided to back off from the exhaust question until i start getting a constant income again... other then that...ive still been in wiring diagrams and my rats nest....raking my brain with the multi meter and test light....

Ive managed to find the blue to my headlight is high
white is low beam... green is ground?

I know a lot more then that but am too anxious to get back to my bike...ill try and upload pics later... but im thinking about making a homemade exhaust...from the header back.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Ringo on Jan 21, 2011, 05:05:31
Do you have a wiring diagram?  They tell you what every color is...  ;)

Ah, well it might not differentiate between high/low, but look at your hi/lo switch to see which color is which.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Big Rich on Jan 21, 2011, 07:06:55
Ya, green is ground on all Honda's. I thought it was just the older ones and they got with the program - but PJ corrected me.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 22, 2011, 01:30:19
the problem im having is hooking the black/white wire to the switch...idk where to put it or what to hook it to. also...yellow and white/yellow i have no clue what they go to...
 i have used the Blue wire and white wire and found that both blacks are "power". help? i have an aftermarket switch...
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Big Rich on Jan 22, 2011, 01:45:36
Slow down man......are you talking about the original wires on the bike or the wires from the switch? Might be time to bust out the multimeter and figure out what connections give you continuity.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 22, 2011, 02:23:39
No i wouldnt throw random colors at you... i was talking strictly about the bike's wires..

ive been using a multi meter...
and a test light...
and a saftey probe with a breaker in it that i can shoot power or ground through any wire.... i still cant figure out how the black and white (bike wire) fits into my switch though...or yellow... or white/yellow.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: Big Rich on Jan 22, 2011, 02:33:01
They're all in the wiring diagram for sure. Have you checked out www.oldmanhonda.com (http://www.oldmanhonda.com) yet?
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 22, 2011, 14:03:34
Yes. I know i have wiring diagrams, im just curious HOW they work... and oldman honda doesnt tell me how they plug into my switches...
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 23, 2011, 00:51:48
Nevermind, took it too a friends...we got everything straightened out...
it seems my switch had a ground wire that spliced in with another ground wire to form a 2 to 1 ground. it made it so that when i flipped my headlight switch on my starter solenoid stayed on... hahaha.. we had to cut the wire and solder a 2 to 2 wire.

My next issue:

lets get some mufflers and baffles on this bad boy. Pics soon... :)

-thanks for staying tuned in!!
  Blake
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: barnicle on Jan 24, 2011, 13:51:57
have you fired it up yet ?

it does help keep you sane if you can memorise what some of the wires are. It helps you not get as distracted if you know what some of the wires do.
Hot starts out as red off the +terminal/stator, but then turns black after the first few stops -I think on my bike it is after the voltage regulator.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 24, 2011, 16:46:38
yes im getting power to everything...including points it needs gas in the carb bowls. Then it will start.... I started it with starter fluid but it died quickly.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 26, 2011, 13:35:49
camera has been acting up again...ugh.

I got the bikes chain off and soaked it in diesal to loosen the grease and grime... cleaning the sprocket and polishing up aluminum pieces....

still waiting for my dad to help me make an exhaust.

big list of stuff to come...

Right now im looking for an affordable tank liner...

i rinsed out the rusty tank with diesel and its looking better now...

need a way to also clean up the rusty petcock without destroying the rubber gasket...
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 26, 2011, 13:37:19
Take it apart. And a new gasket is $3.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 26, 2011, 13:41:32
which gasket needs replaced though?
http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=cb350+petcock&_sacat=See-All-Categories (http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=cb350+petcock&_sacat=See-All-Categories)
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 26, 2011, 13:44:47
Theres only a screen, a couple O rings, and a rubber "gasket". All of which can be removed once the petcock is taken apart. Take it all apart, check the re[laceable bits to see if they even need replaced, and clean the petcock. It should take about 15min max.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 26, 2011, 14:01:51
currently at school...but ill do it when i get home... :)
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: barnicle on Jan 26, 2011, 14:10:36
I think a full kit cost me $20/$25, but it is well worth it, to not  have gas dripping out all the time.
Every thing should come apart and then be soaked, carb cleaner,wire down every tube.
Then make sure you can get air to pass threw every where. put it together and check again that air will pass threw when you have it set to regular and reserve settings. Feel free to try all this before you buy the gaskets. If it doesn't leak when your done cleaning, and reassembling it it don't worry about it. 
The main thing that has leaked on my bikes is the gasket that sits behind the on/off/res. lever.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 CB350 Cafe Racer w/ Lots of pics!
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 26, 2011, 20:34:47
haha my on off res valve leaked like crazy when i tryed it on my bike tonight... we got the thing to run idle!
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( NEW VIDEO PLEASE WATCH!)
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 26, 2011, 23:15:30
100_2431[1] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge8hgn0jNF0#ws)

WOOT WOOT SHE PURRS LIKE A KITTEN!
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( NEW VIDEO PLEASE WATCH!)
Post by: barnicle on Jan 27, 2011, 01:09:38
That"s right you need to run the gas out. both gallons of it. ;)
 sweet bike you got there.... and you thought you wanted muflers  .  ;D    That's normal for it to die while its still warming up at that low of idle, gives you a good excuse to sit and rev it a few times while it warms up.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( NEW VIDEO PLEASE WATCH!)
Post by: hurley209 on Jan 27, 2011, 01:14:14
Rad man! Sounds great!
U should get a battery though so you don't have to use the charer  hahah
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( NEW VIDEO PLEASE WATCH!)
Post by: DrJ on Jan 27, 2011, 01:14:42
(http://www.websalad.com.au/wp-content/uploads/waynes-world_Excellent-225x300.jpg)


I dig the pooch ;D
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( NEW VIDEO PLEASE WATCH!)
Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 27, 2011, 12:02:54
Right on man! Thats a great feeling isnt it? As far as your petcock leaking, theres a special wavy washer behind the lever. Make sure its installed properly (for some reason, there always in wrong) as it pushes the gasket against the lever to seal it.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( NEW VIDEO PLEASE WATCH!)
Post by: diesel450 on Jan 27, 2011, 12:05:46
I hate that little washer thingy! Took forever the first time to figure out I had it on the wrong side of the lever face.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( NEW VIDEO PLEASE WATCH!)
Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 27, 2011, 12:17:11
Youre not the only one... Almost every honda Ive ever messed with had it installed wrong. No idea why.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( NEW VIDEO PLEASE WATCH!)
Post by: sxecafe on Jan 27, 2011, 12:27:01
Congrats!
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( NEW VIDEO PLEASE WATCH!)
Post by: Kanticoy on Jan 27, 2011, 12:52:47
That's awesome man!  But I have to ask....what is that cotton ball with legs wandering around in the garage!  I mean, I know there are dust bunnies in my shop. but DAMN!   :o ;D
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( NEW VIDEO PLEASE WATCH!)
Post by: cafePete on Jan 27, 2011, 13:12:11
Great stuff! Best feeling hearing her run after all the work. Congrats.  ;D
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( NEW VIDEO PLEASE WATCH!)
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 28, 2011, 00:21:50
Thanks guys!! Im so happy!! fabing up some pipe soon. Getting seat made this weekend hopefully.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( NEW VIDEO PLEASE WATCH!)
Post by: stik70 on Jan 28, 2011, 00:39:00
Rock On Man, soundin' mean!! I bet your waiting for Spring to come soon!!!
Kev
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( NEW VIDEO PLEASE WATCH!)
Post by: Dale on Jan 28, 2011, 04:15:54
Awesome man. That sounds amazing! Hell yeah!
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( NEW VIDEO PLEASE WATCH!)
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 28, 2011, 09:57:32
yeah she does! :) Sooo Things to do:
Pipes
baffles
seat
seat upholstry
pod filters
Jetting
New chain and sprocket
finish polishing cases
Tail light
led turn signals.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( NEW VIDEO PLEASE WATCH!)
Post by: Reinhard on Jan 28, 2011, 10:07:26
Sounds good. Like the rumble. You going with a muffler or just the header? I like the way it sounds as is
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( NEW VIDEO PLEASE WATCH!)
Post by: Jared on Jan 28, 2011, 11:42:35
you bastard!

really, flat pink would look great!

find my thread... "cb350 built by a teen"

been at it a year and a half. there was a member younger then us, Jared, but his project seemed to kind of fade (lost interest?)

keep at it... if you need pointers, im here for ya.

oh, and take it from me... listen to EVERYTHING a lot of the people say, and dont talk back like you know what your doing.

where are you located?

as for budget... good luck keeping to it. ive spent over 3 times the cost of my bike on parts and things since i bought it. its a big pit.
My bike hasnt faded bud!
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( NEW VIDEO PLEASE WATCH!)
Post by: The Red Wonder on Jan 28, 2011, 16:31:56
Rock On Man, soundin' mean!! I bet your waiting for Spring to come soon!!!
Kev

You guys are all missing out on the glory of the Southwest...our "winters" are littered with 65 degree days! Snow is overrated!

Sweet sounding bike man! Coming along good, I like when you got mad your dad, that made me think of me and my dad too..."dont do that!"
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( NEW VIDEO PLEASE WATCH!)
Post by: JRK5892 on Jan 28, 2011, 16:38:22
just checked out your vid man... scoot sounds good... looks good!
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( NEW VIDEO PLEASE WATCH!)
Post by: famousseajay on Jan 28, 2011, 16:50:27
Watched the vid since you asked so nicely.  :)  Looking and sounding damn good.  Is that the original paint/graphic scheme?  Looks BA either way.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( NEW VIDEO PLEASE WATCH!)
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 28, 2011, 17:31:10
You guys are all missing out on the glory of the Southwest...our "winters" are littered with 65 degree days! Snow is overrated!

Sweet sounding bike man! Coming along good, I like when you got mad your dad, that made me think of me and my dad too..."dont do that!"

ya im ignorant... (meaning i dont know everything) and i need to learn that...College should be fun!

My bike hasnt faded bud!

Sweet another kid my age?
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( NEW VIDEO PLEASE WATCH!)
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 28, 2011, 17:32:07
Watched the vid since you asked so nicely.  :)  Looking and sounding damn good.  Is that the original paint/graphic scheme?  Looks BA either way.

THANKS :) yes. Original paint :) untouched... 40years old. Looks sharp right?

Going to paint the seat the same scheme.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( NEW VIDEO PLEASE WATCH!)
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 29, 2011, 01:18:58
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2435.jpg)

got pipes cut.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: barnicle on Jan 29, 2011, 01:26:14
ooh...ooooh...
I like the length, bolt your baffle in and send us another video.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 29, 2011, 01:33:00
ooh...ooooh...
I like the length, bolt your baffle in and send us another video.

:) wish i had the baffle.. i gotta make it first bud.

Homecoming is tommarrow for me so no work on the scoot guys.... :(

Sunday i shall find and make baffles and get my seat glassed if all goes as planned.

ill keep everyone posted.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 29, 2011, 01:33:36
OHHH forgot to mention if anyone wants to see all the pics i have:
http://s186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/ (http://s186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/)
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: Rocan on Jan 29, 2011, 12:00:08
ugh. I hate those side turned exhausts....

but to each there own.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: Rocan on Jan 29, 2011, 12:04:55

watched your video...  ;)

hah. You cheated, your dad helped you!

your dad had his hand in front of the header to check compression, I do it too.

Your idle is low. its getting there though man. congrats.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: JRK5892 on Jan 29, 2011, 12:40:17
man i have to be honest... those pipes do not flow wiht the bike and look way out of place IMO
i can see shoe burns in your future! maybe it is the angle of the photo... show the whole bike... to me it just does not look right for some reason
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: crazypj on Jan 29, 2011, 12:54:38
man i have to be honest... those pipes do not flow wiht the bike and look way out of place IMO
i can see shoe burns in your future! maybe it is the angle of the photo... show the whole bike... to me it just does not look right for some reason

+1
 Norton  Commando silencers with an upward tilt for that one
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: JRK5892 on Jan 29, 2011, 12:55:04
100% or some rev megaphones
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: JRK5892 on Jan 29, 2011, 12:55:34
but def needs an upward tilt the strait lines just do not flow with the curves the bike has
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: barnicle on Jan 29, 2011, 13:34:51
no. no. no no  no......the pipes are great. I have two sets of old rusted out megaphones I may repair them and use them as a last resort if I need something quieter than my shorty baffles, but In my view they are way to much for a little bike like this,. I say what you have is perfect maybe try turning them down or half way down -just so the sound ecoes off the pavement -. Anyway what ever you do make it understated, small, simple. If you burn a shoe make a little guard for it like the guys who run the cl exhaust do-little piece of aluminum withe some holes drilled into it.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: JRK5892 on Jan 29, 2011, 13:35:37
maybe you see a different bike :)
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: barnicle on Jan 29, 2011, 13:44:52
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ducatimeccanica.com/ducati-750ss.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ducatimeccanica.com/1974_750_greenframe.html&h=568&w=798&sz=55&tbnid=RWm64j_tDrjP3M:&tbnh=102&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dducati%2Bgreen%2Bframe&zoom=1&q=ducati+green+frame&usg=__4yvj2bETSXPvpAiXV0af4Ppv0Zo=&sa=X&ei=FlBETeOkJ4K78ga-1qWzAQ&ved=0CEgQ9QEwBw (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ducatimeccanica.com/ducati-750ss.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ducatimeccanica.com/1974_750_greenframe.html&h=568&w=798&sz=55&tbnid=RWm64j_tDrjP3M:&tbnh=102&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dducati%2Bgreen%2Bframe&zoom=1&q=ducati+green+frame&usg=__4yvj2bETSXPvpAiXV0af4Ppv0Zo=&sa=X&ei=FlBETeOkJ4K78ga-1qWzAQ&ved=0CEgQ9QEwBw)
I f you had one of these I would say "yes do the turn up, it's traditional", but look at the foot peg placement. Its a much bigger bike and the pegs are way higher if you raise the pegs on a 350 that much, you will be in the fetal position.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: barnicle on Jan 29, 2011, 14:06:57
just to clarify that was a" no.no.no.no :) "   not a "no.no.no.no. >:( "(http://www.dotheton.com/forum/file:///C:/Users/mud/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-1.png)
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: barnicle on Jan 29, 2011, 14:13:09
This is what you get with a 350 not bad maybe, but not real graceful. Id rather dump it out right behind my foot, and do something ells with my $100 http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_VDCGGBYmNCk/SXk-1Z_-SJI/AAAAAAAABiI/kCjAB9GwpI8/s400/0023.JPG (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_VDCGGBYmNCk/SXk-1Z_-SJI/AAAAAAAABiI/kCjAB9GwpI8/s400/0023.JPG)
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: JRK5892 on Jan 29, 2011, 14:36:42
I am a big fan of short pipes... i am, hell my cafe prob has the shortest pipes on the site... just saying what he has there... does not flow well at all with the bike, it is somethign that naturally pulls the eye to it, not smoooooth and flowing like a pipe should be on a bike... looks like a after thought (no offence blake just statin my opinion)
you can see on mine, i like short pipes, just not with the layout he has
 
(http://www.thepowderpro.com/gallery/thumbs/lrg-372-qxtndd.jpg)
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 29, 2011, 14:49:33
Ya... Long straight pipes like that tend to have a "chopper" vibe to me. Not very racey. Something like these would be sweet:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BSA-TRIUMPH-NORTON-SUPERIOR-ROCKET-MEGAPHONE-MUFFLERS-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5642363c4aQQitemZ370478038090QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BSA-TRIUMPH-NORTON-SUPERIOR-ROCKET-MEGAPHONE-MUFFLERS-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5642363c4aQQitemZ370478038090QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)

Shit, if the price stays low, I may have to buy those... DIBS!
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: JRK5892 on Jan 29, 2011, 14:50:39
ya agreed those trumpets would be rad
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: Rocan on Jan 29, 2011, 15:01:21
i like pipes that are of tuned length. end of story ;)
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: barnicle on Jan 29, 2011, 16:11:16
i like pipes that are of tuned length. end of story ;)
and when is that bike gona be ready anyway :-X
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: dakine_surf on Jan 29, 2011, 16:30:49
I agree with Joe, those pipes look way out of place. Also I just watched your video and saw you running the bike without a battery which is a big no no,  You can ruin your voltage regulator, among other things... it is fine if you hook up even a dead battery and then hook up the charger to it, but it needs something there to capture the electricity.  My dad long ago told me about this after I blew through a few electrical components on a build of mine.  Otherwise, great job!
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 29, 2011, 18:17:51
watched your video...  ;)

hah. You cheated, your dad helped you!

your dad had his hand in front of the header to check compression, I do it too.

Your idle is low. its getting there though man. congrats.
Idle low? is that bad?

And my dad helped because i couldnt film and rev without something to sit the camera on...

Yep moving right a long... gonna glass the seat... made my final revisions on the foam. (sunday is the day.. that im doing this)


GUYS i might change the side exhausts to slash cut. i think it looks better.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 29, 2011, 18:18:58
ya agreed those trumpets would be rad

on a budget though.... so im gonna just make my exhausts. i like the slash cut idea... i think i might do that.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 29, 2011, 18:19:54
I agree with Joe, those pipes look way out of place. Also I just watched your video and saw you running the bike without a battery which is a big no no,  You can ruin your voltage regulator, among other things... it is fine if you hook up even a dead battery and then hook up the charger to it, but it needs something there to capture the electricity.  My dad long ago told me about this after I blew through a few electrical components on a build of mine.  Otherwise, great job!

i set the amps low... it wont blow the regulator... trust me i knew this...
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: JRK5892 on Jan 29, 2011, 18:22:00
what did your stock pipes look like. you can always cut them up and make somethign cool out of them.. get a 45* bend to get a bit of a kick up behind your foot peg
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 29, 2011, 18:23:04
This is what you get with a 350 not bad maybe, but not real graceful. Id rather dump it out right behind my foot, and do something ells with my $100 http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_VDCGGBYmNCk/SXk-1Z_-SJI/AAAAAAAABiI/kCjAB9GwpI8/s400/0023.JPG (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_VDCGGBYmNCk/SXk-1Z_-SJI/AAAAAAAABiI/kCjAB9GwpI8/s400/0023.JPG)

that bike is my background on my phone and my inspiration to make a cafe racer... truely amazing what they did with that scoot.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 29, 2011, 18:24:51
what did your stock pipes look like. you can always cut them up and make somethign cool out of them.. get a 45* bend to get a bit of a kick up behind your foot peg

They were those HOOKER Jpipes i had...i cut them. they had a mandrel bend in them and were worth about 10 bucks each. i have shortys and long ones ... i got the flares on them done at the muffler shop for free cuz the guy felt sorry that i didnt have much money.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: Rocan on Jan 29, 2011, 18:50:58
oh, so you didnt show up in your mustang? ;)
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 30, 2011, 02:15:32
oh, so you didnt show up in your mustang? ;)

nope i had my beater car. hahaha and it was funny i had a ripped up flannel and it REEKED of diesel fuel haha.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: Rocan on Jan 30, 2011, 11:15:31
oh so you have two cars now? >,<

all my flannels are ripped up and reek of fuel... or grease, or aluminum oxide... a combination of those usually.

greatest thing ever said to me by a girl... "you smell like leather, gasoline, and cigarettes.... thats fucking hot"

Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 30, 2011, 11:36:52
wow... you two make a cute couple...
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 30, 2011, 18:22:40
wow... you two make a cute couple...

Who?

-----
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 30, 2011, 18:36:56
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2439.jpg)
2 dif sets of pipe i had on my bike. Choosing longer ones.... but might slash cut them.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 30, 2011, 18:46:12
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2459.jpg)
seat's final look. Covered in latex paint to be safe with the fiberglass resins.
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2496.jpg)
after glassing.
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2495.jpg)
after glassing.
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2452.jpg)
Shined them with sandpaper.
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2498.jpg)
on the bike...glassed seat+Polished pipes.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( Pipes Cut + Video)
Post by: Ringo on Jan 30, 2011, 20:44:25
wow... you two make a cute couple...

Hahahahahahahaha!

But seriously, I'm glad you're making your own seat, instead of buying one created by someone else.  Props.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 (Glassing Seat....WITH PICS + PIPES + VIDEO)
Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 30, 2011, 20:54:06
Good on ya for making your own seat bud. Looking good.Its a good idea to glass some support into the seat base. Adds a little weight, but make a much stiffer and stronger seat.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 (Glassing Seat....WITH PICS + PIPES + VIDEO)
Post by: Swapmeet Louie on Jan 30, 2011, 21:02:45
I like the pipes
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 (Glassing Seat....WITH PICS + PIPES + VIDEO)
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 30, 2011, 21:18:19
Good on ya for making your own seat bud. Looking good.Its a good idea to glass some support into the seat base. Adds a little weight, but make a much stiffer and stronger seat.

I dont get what you are trying to say...i intend on making a pan out of wood...maybe 3/4 inch thick... for support.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 (Glassing Seat....WITH PICS + PIPES + VIDEO)
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 30, 2011, 21:19:57
I like the pipes

Thanks Louie,
other guys have been saying they dont go with the "flow" of the bike... but i am begining to like them... I was thinking of doing a slash cut but idk now...
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 (Glassing Seat....WITH PICS + PIPES + VIDEO)
Post by: VonYinzer on Jan 30, 2011, 21:20:54
Take some flat stock. Drill holes in it. Lay it on the bottom of the seat, lengthwise. Pour some resin over it. Lay glass on top. Put a couple layers of glass over it and make sure the resin gets in the holes. Its thinner and stronger than wood.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 (Glassing Seat....WITH PICS + PIPES + VIDEO)
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 30, 2011, 21:34:51
What is flat stock my man?

sorry, im still learning how to do this thing. :) Thanks for the help though Von.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 (Glassing Seat....WITH PICS + PIPES + VIDEO)
Post by: Reinhard on Jan 30, 2011, 22:29:22
Flat stock is a piece of metal.  1/8" thick,inch or so wide would work. I like the pipes too. I really have an aversion to mufflers. IMO most mufflers are way oversized and look dorky as hell.  Last muffler I put on a bike I made out of a stainless steel water bottle and stuffed with glass.The seat has nice lines to it too. Nice work
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 (Glassing Seat....WITH PICS + PIPES + VIDEO)
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 30, 2011, 22:39:09
Flat stock is a piece of metal.  1/8" thick,inch or so wide would work. I like the pipes too. I really have a diversion to mufflers. IMO most mufflers are way oversized and look dorky as hell.  Last muffler I put on a bike I made out of a stainless steel water bottle and stuffed with glass.The seat has nice lines to it too. Nice work

Thank you very much Reinhard.

I might slash cut my pipes... but indeed i hate the reverse megaphone mufflers
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 (Glassing Seat....WITH PICS + PIPES + VIDEO)
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 31, 2011, 19:43:28
ahh my dads being stupid.. he wont let me cut my pipes ? i want slash cuts!
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 (Glassing Seat....WITH PICS + PIPES + VIDEO)
Post by: B L A K E on Jan 31, 2011, 22:53:35
Okay Guys:
Things to do on my list:
-Get exhausts properly installed-
Put baffles in [ ]
Find a clamp setup or weld the pipes together [ ]
Take whole exhaust setup to get sandblasted and painted. [ ]
Reinstall exhaust with copper rings and properly fit them [ ]
Weld on Exhaust Guards ?? [ ]


Fix Leaky Petcock [ ]

-Buy grips for handlebars (in black of course) [ ]
-Pod filters with a touch of chrome (K&N or Uni??) [ ]
-Finish, Mount, and Paint Seat [ ]
-Upholster the seat [ ]


REJET CARBS FOR NEW EXHAUSTS AND INTAKE** [ ]

Buy New Chain and Sprocket (i need suggestions on where to buy) [ ]

Degrease Swing arm [ ]
Degrease Everything Else [ ]
REGREASE Everything that needs it [ ]
 
Rearsets [ ]
 
Change fork seal oil [ ]
Change fork seals? [ ]


Finish Polishing Cases [ ]
Polish Drum Brakes [ ]
Polish Forks [ ]

Install my battery [ ]

Find Brake Light [ ]
Find Horn Button [ ]
Find Front Brake Switch [ ]

Reinstall Kick Stand [ ]
Uninstall Center Stand [ ]


Double Check All Wiring [ ]
Double Check All bolts for Tightness [ ]


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Anything i forgot?

Title: Re: Blake's CB350 (Glassing Seat....WITH PICS + PIPES + VIDEO)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 02, 2011, 17:47:40
Not much to do since i cant get to sandblasters today.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 (Glassing Seat....WITH PICS + PIPES + VIDEO)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 07, 2011, 00:52:20
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2564.jpg)
First of all for my seat pan i tryed drilling holes out...and much to my failure the drill was getting EXTREMELY too hot for me to continue.. i think the metal was tooo thick.

I stopped with that piece of metal through it out and got a scrap hood out of my back yard we were gonna chuck anyways...we cut out a piece of metal from it...took it too the brake and then bent it to fit into my first to layers of fiberglassing.
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2566.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2567.jpg)


reinforced the inside of my seat with another 2 layers...this time using mat instead of cloth.
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2568.jpg)

grinded out a spot to bondo in later...for the rivets to attach the structure plate inside the seat..(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2569.jpg) put 2 sets of 2 small rivets then i put 2 BIG rivets with screw holes that i can attach it to the frame with.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 (Glassing Seat....WITH PICS + PIPES + VIDEO)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 07, 2011, 00:55:27
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2577.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2578.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2574.jpg)
found somethings i could probablly use for my exhaust clamp but it was at a swap meet so i dont know what theyre called...
Any help attaching a flared pipe to a 1 1/2 in OD pipe?
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 07, 2011, 00:58:26
also found a sweet 919rr for sale :b who wants it....?
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2583.jpg)

its in rock island illinois if you guys can hunt down the number...i didnt get it.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: Ringo on Feb 07, 2011, 20:54:29
For the paint, I'm going to urge you away from the black on black on black on black on black...  I love black myself, but so many people overdo it.  It's easy to black everything out; come up with some interesting, appealing color combinations and make it stand out!

That being said, it's your bike, do what will make you happy.  That's just my more-or-less insignificant opinion.   :)
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 07, 2011, 21:18:51
For the paint, I'm going to urge you away from the black on black on black on black on black...  I love black myself, but so many people overdo it.  It's easy to black everything out; come up with some interesting, appealing color combinations and make it stand out!

That being said, it's your bike, do what will make you happy.  That's just my more-or-less insignificant opinion.   :)



Having cost in mind...

and conflicting with myself several times...

I cant bring myself to kill the vintage paint...its just damn cool.

Im going to have my buddy paint my seat to match the tank this weekend! :)
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: redbulltj on Feb 07, 2011, 22:44:13
I cant bring myself to kill the vintage paint...its just damn cool.
Im going to have my buddy paint my seat to match the tank this weekend! :)

I am glad to hear your keeping the paint....I love the factory colors and it's show of age!
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: barnicle on Feb 07, 2011, 22:47:17
good man. :)
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 07, 2011, 23:39:21
I am glad to hear your keeping the paint....I love the factory colors and it's show of age!

Yep...im still in foto shop mocking up paint.
Title: Re: Blake's CB350 ( NEW VIDEO PLEASE WATCH!)
Post by: stript.714 o/c on Feb 08, 2011, 14:06:57
100_2431[1] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge8hgn0jNF0#ws)

WOOT WOOT SHE PURRS LIKE A KITTEN!
man sounds good with just the heads . did you end up just running it like that?
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 08, 2011, 16:09:36
man sounds good with just the heads . did you end up just running it like that?

it'll burn up my engine. I need back pressure I'm pretty sure
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 08, 2011, 17:48:30
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/conceptfinal4Withoutfairing.jpg)

The silver swing arm is meant to be just bear metal with a clear coat.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: barnicle on Feb 08, 2011, 18:21:05
As far as break lite I am partial to round. you could also find a sport bike lite that fits i the tail. maybe double round in the tail.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: stript.714 o/c on Feb 08, 2011, 18:23:40
it'll burn up my engine. I need back pressure I'm pretty sure
really i didnt know! i thought back preashure was bad?
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: JRK5892 on Feb 08, 2011, 18:24:35
check out some trailer lights bud... you can get some small brake lights in LED cheap and they work great
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: xulf13 on Feb 08, 2011, 18:25:03
Sweet tail idea Blake, I'm digging it. I like the flames too, lol
+1 on the double round tail light.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 08, 2011, 20:10:53
check out some trailer lights bud... you can get some small brake lights in LED cheap and they work great

I dont know the first thing about wiring up leds... lol.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: VonYinzer on Feb 08, 2011, 20:17:37
Theres a few writeups here on DTT and thousands online. Pretty simple stuff my man. Im sure you can handle it if you wanted to.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: VonYinzer on Feb 08, 2011, 20:18:51
And ya, not only is running an open exhaust awfull for tuning, it really doesnt sound so hot. I know, Ive done it. Thought it was "awesome" than realized that it was not. haha
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: JRK5892 on Feb 08, 2011, 20:20:17
man 99% of all trailer lights come ready to rock just plug in or splice in and your golden!
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: Maritime on Feb 08, 2011, 21:00:43
Led's for tail/brake lights are super easy, just plug and play.  blinkers cause grief because of loads and old school flashers, but an LED stop tail will wire right up in the factory harness. I got one for 20, glassed it into my tail and now have a bright ass light that draws way less from my system.  2 Small trailer led tail/stop lights (dual intensity) could go right in the seat design you have and wire in with 0 trouble.  It is a cool tail, LED lights would be easy and look great.


Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 08, 2011, 22:16:02
I like "gretta's" light... i wish i coul have something similar to that.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 08, 2011, 22:17:22
after seeing the voting results ive locked voting! thanks for the results guys! Looks like 100% im choosing to keep the paint. no doubts now!

How will i match the faded paint though is the question o.O
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: imseamless on Feb 08, 2011, 22:26:36
man 99% of all trailer lights come ready to rock just plug in or splice in and your golden!
Can you point me to a site to get these dual element, small round brake lights? I have looked everywhere and it seems all the small ones are just runner lights and I've read mixed reviews about hacking them (whether adding resisters in line, etc).
-Ben
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 08, 2011, 23:57:43
i want something like this to flush mount to the top but smaller... http://www.jpcycles.com/product/ZZ34117 (http://www.jpcycles.com/product/ZZ34117)

anyone got any ideas?
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 09, 2011, 00:18:54
doing more research i found out i really like the honda VTX 1800 tail light. Do you guys think it would be a good fit?
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: JRK5892 on Feb 09, 2011, 11:14:36
ben they are all over ebay... i get them from farm and fleet, auto parts stores, tractor supply... and truck stops tend to have a great selection as well
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: VonYinzer on Feb 09, 2011, 11:19:32
doing more research i found out i really like the honda VTX 1800 tail light. Do you guys think it would be a good fit?

Do you mean would it phisically fit into the cowl, or would it look right? If your question is about the look, all that matters is that you dig it. Build your bike for you. Its the only way you'll be happy with the finished project.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: LOCKARD666 on Feb 09, 2011, 11:37:37
on the paint, i would consider making the black stripe get wider as it swoops up across the tail the same way it does when it swoops down the tank... and yes, that orange is awesome.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: LOCKARD666 on Feb 09, 2011, 12:14:23
small multi function led tail lights.

these might be a little too big
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-Red-2-Round-9-LED-Mini-Stop-Turn-Brake-Tail-Lights-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5d2d53419aQQitemZ400192389530QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-Red-2-Round-9-LED-Mini-Stop-Turn-Brake-Tail-Lights-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5d2d53419aQQitemZ400192389530QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)

these might be a little too small
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-Mini-1-Red-3-LED-Custom-Stop-Turn-Tail-Lights-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem20b6ece76fQQitemZ140507932527QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-Mini-1-Red-3-LED-Custom-Stop-Turn-Tail-Lights-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem20b6ece76fQQitemZ140507932527QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)

look for three wire hook ups... read the fine print, some of these thing will have a built in sequenced blinking effect when you energize the second hot wire... if you want a flashing brake light, i guess that could work.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 09, 2011, 18:36:20
small multi function led tail lights.

these might be a little too big
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-Red-2-Round-9-LED-Mini-Stop-Turn-Brake-Tail-Lights-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5d2d53419aQQitemZ400192389530QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-Red-2-Round-9-LED-Mini-Stop-Turn-Brake-Tail-Lights-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5d2d53419aQQitemZ400192389530QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)

these might be a little too small
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-Mini-1-Red-3-LED-Custom-Stop-Turn-Tail-Lights-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem20b6ece76fQQitemZ140507932527QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-Mini-1-Red-3-LED-Custom-Stop-Turn-Tail-Lights-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem20b6ece76fQQitemZ140507932527QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)

look for three wire hook ups... read the fine print, some of these thing will have a built in sequenced blinking effect when you energize the second hot wire... if you want a flashing brake light, i guess that could work.



eh the round lights are SOOO over used on cafes... i want to do something different..

 the vtx 1800 light would be cool because its still honda...

i need dementions for it... and i want something that is kinda flat but still sticks out a LITTLE.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 09, 2011, 18:53:18
http://radiantz.com/index1.html?124.html&1 (http://radiantz.com/index1.html?124.html&1)

last one on the page...?
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 09, 2011, 18:58:18
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LED-Tail-Light-Honda-Motorcycle-CB400-V-TEC-04-08-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2a07164194QQitemZ180507525524QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LED-Tail-Light-Honda-Motorcycle-CB400-V-TEC-04-08-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2a07164194QQitemZ180507525524QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)

also i like this
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: teazer on Feb 09, 2011, 19:03:15
I like that last one.  Not sure how you would integrate it into the seat hump though. Maybe it could be frenched in, but that might look too modern/futuristic.

Or just use simple LED strips that almost disappear when not lit.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: JRK5892 on Feb 09, 2011, 19:06:04
check out some of the YZF tails as well... i used one on my FZR figther was a great looking tail
(http://i40.tinypic.com/25tfh4p.jpg)
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: imseamless on Feb 09, 2011, 19:38:03
small multi function led tail lights.

these might be a little too big
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-Red-2-Round-9-LED-Mini-Stop-Turn-Brake-Tail-Lights-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5d2d53419aQQitemZ400192389530QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-Red-2-Round-9-LED-Mini-Stop-Turn-Brake-Tail-Lights-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5d2d53419aQQitemZ400192389530QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)

these might be a little too small
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-Mini-1-Red-3-LED-Custom-Stop-Turn-Tail-Lights-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem20b6ece76fQQitemZ140507932527QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-Mini-1-Red-3-LED-Custom-Stop-Turn-Tail-Lights-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem20b6ece76fQQitemZ140507932527QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)

look for three wire hook ups... read the fine print, some of these thing will have a built in sequenced blinking effect when you energize the second hot wire... if you want a flashing brake light, i guess that could work.

Those 2" ones are exactly what I was after! Ordered them and will mount one of them flush in the cowl of my seat. I'll let you guys know how it is!

Thanks!
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: Ringo on Feb 09, 2011, 20:10:21
Joe- always loved the FZR.  That orange makes me want to do unnatural things...

Blake, If you were feeling fancy you could try these.  Flush mount LEDs.  Pricey though, and not very retro,
http://customdynamics.com/led_flush_mount_kits.htm (http://customdynamics.com/led_flush_mount_kits.htm)
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 09, 2011, 23:35:03
http://customdynamics.com/knight_rider_led_light_bar.htm (http://customdynamics.com/knight_rider_led_light_bar.htm)

I think this is JUST what i need. Its even got 3M tape (double sided) so i can just unpeel it and stick it on the bike!

26 bucks aint to shabby... what do you guys think about me putting either the 12 light SMOKED or 21 Light SMOKED on my bike...
 NOT THE FLASHING ALERT or anything fancy.. just the Solid running light with a BRIGHTER intensity for a brake.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 09, 2011, 23:41:37
"Not into the sequential or flashing LEDs, this light bar is for you.  This light bar contains 12 high power dual intensity LEDs. In running light mode the LEDs are on in low intensity mode. When the brake or turn signal is applied the LEDs will then go to full intensity mode. The unit comes pre-taped with 3M double sided tape for easy mounting to any flat surface. Simply connect the black wire to any ground wire, the Red wire to your existing brake light or turn signal wire and the blue wire to an existing running light power source. Works with any 12VDC system, no load equalizer or resistors required.  Dimensions: 4.7" long x .7" wide x .7" high. Available in Red, Amber and Smoked. These lights bars can be used as running, brake, and turn when used in conjunction with one of our controllers."






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or theres these other ones that are a bit more expensive but come with turn signals build right in. the problem is that they are flush mount.
http://radiantz.com/index1.html?124.html&1 (http://radiantz.com/index1.html?124.html&1)

Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: teazer on Feb 09, 2011, 23:48:16
Excellent choice on the non flashing Knight Rider
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 09, 2011, 23:58:31
Excellent choice on teh non flashing Knight Rider

so is that a "yes" i should go with those? i think itll be smart because if i want to change it later i can... and i wont cut up the bike.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 10, 2011, 00:04:35
Well whatever you guys were about to say... i went ahead and ordered the smoked tail light. :) $31.90 shipped.
 
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/myturnsignal.jpg)
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: LOCKARD666 on Feb 10, 2011, 00:08:30
Those 2" ones are exactly what I was after! Ordered them and will mount one of them flush in the cowl of my seat. I'll let you guys know how it is!

Thanks!

not a problem... i'll PM you my paypal address so you can get that finders fee to me ;)
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 10, 2011, 00:12:12
not a problem... i'll PM you my paypal address so you can get that finders fee to me ;)

Lol... I bet that'll happen :) :)


Anyways... Enough chitterchatter... My seat is still at the paint shop... idk what the hells going on... but im assuming they will need my tank soon... :p

Next order of busieness : air filters... I want K&N because i cant skimp on stuff thatll hurt my motor in the long run.. only the best... Now i want a good deal on K&Ns anyone help me out?
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: teazer on Feb 10, 2011, 00:14:32
And/Or http://www.cosmicleds.com/stingerz/ (http://www.cosmicleds.com/stingerz/) for the indicators mounted into the sides of the seat along the bottom edge perhaps


Edit.

Wow.  Snooze and there's another half dozen posts.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 10, 2011, 00:20:48
And/Or http://www.cosmicleds.com/stingerz/ (http://www.cosmicleds.com/stingerz/) for the indicators mounted into the sides of the seat along the bottom edge perhaps


Edit.

Wow.  Snooze and there's another half dozen posts.

Haha its okay... im going for no turn signals since i wont be night riding much... but if i do its still legal to do that in illinois.

Anyways... How can i take some strain off my charging system by modding the head light?

is there a direct led replacement that will take strain off of it?
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: teazer on Feb 10, 2011, 00:25:33
Blake, where in the great state of Illinois are you? We're up near 6 flags if you need some inspiration or a chat.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 10, 2011, 00:38:55
Blake, where in the great state of Illinois are you? We're up near 6 flags if you need some inspiration or a chat.

You say UP never six flags...but you do know they have one up towards chicago and one in st louis missouri...

Im smack dab in the middle. Central illinois... Peoria Area.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: barnicle on Feb 10, 2011, 01:04:28
I think that light will work well withe your bike. the only time it will attract attention is when you are on the road.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 10, 2011, 17:36:57
I think that light will work well withe your bike. the only time it will attract attention is when you are on the road.

thanks barnicle.

Thats what i was going for. I dont like the look of a tail light... it only needs to be noticed when its needed.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: Erskine on Feb 10, 2011, 18:34:12
Can you take the "new pics" bit off the title of this thread?
I keep on using up all my internet pixies in expectation and it's such an anti climax. :o
Innit
 ;)
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: Rocan on Feb 10, 2011, 18:51:59
yeah im with erskine ;)

pshh blake, you just failed the contest. your having someone else paint it? man...
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW PICS!!!!!)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 10, 2011, 22:23:38
Can you take the "new pics" bit off the title of this thread?
I keep on using up all my internet pixies in expectation and it's such an anti climax. :o
Innit
 ;)

sorry! totally didnt realize that was still up
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (Seat being painted!/ Tail light on order)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 10, 2011, 22:32:13
yeah im with erskine ;)

pshh blake, you just failed the contest. your having someone else paint it? man...

hey we never said that i couldnt?

I traded service for service.

Horse trading...thats how ya do it son.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (Seat being painted!/ Tail light on order)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 11, 2011, 00:33:17
Sooo i hate to get flamed for this...but...
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2605.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2607.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2599.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2608.jpg)
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (Seat being painted!/ Tail light on order)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 11, 2011, 00:42:01
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/7-8-Motorcycle-Handlebar-Soft-Rubber-Hand-Grips-Yellow-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2c59c0d7ffQQitemZ190484371455QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/7-8-Motorcycle-Handlebar-Soft-Rubber-Hand-Grips-Yellow-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2c59c0d7ffQQitemZ190484371455QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)

What do you guys think about these grips?
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (Seat being painted!/ Tail light on order)
Post by: Rocan on Feb 11, 2011, 01:15:09
are those "shorty" shocks?

Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (Seat being painted!/ Tail light on order)
Post by: stript.714 o/c on Feb 11, 2011, 01:52:39
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/7-8-Motorcycle-Handlebar-Soft-Rubber-Hand-Grips-Yellow-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2c59c0d7ffQQitemZ190484371455QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/7-8-Motorcycle-Handlebar-Soft-Rubber-Hand-Grips-Yellow-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2c59c0d7ffQQitemZ190484371455QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)

What do you guys think about these grips?
Not feeling the grips !!!!!
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (Seat being painted!/ Tail light on order)
Post by: LOCKARD666 on Feb 11, 2011, 08:27:50
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/7-8-Motorcycle-Handlebar-Soft-Rubber-Hand-Grips-Yellow-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2c59c0d7ffQQitemZ190484371455QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/7-8-Motorcycle-Handlebar-Soft-Rubber-Hand-Grips-Yellow-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2c59c0d7ffQQitemZ190484371455QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)
What do you guys think about these grips?
^^^these^^^ are not the grips you're looking for...


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Biltwell-Kung-Fu-Chopper-Grips-7-8-Bars-Natural-Rubber-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3a61f37447QQitemZ250751448135QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Biltwell-Kung-Fu-Chopper-Grips-7-8-Bars-Natural-Rubber-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3a61f37447QQitemZ250751448135QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)
^^^THESE^^^ are the grips you're looking for.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (Seat being painted!/ Tail light on order)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 11, 2011, 09:12:24
^^^these^^^ are not the grips you're looking for...


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Biltwell-Kung-Fu-Chopper-Grips-7-8-Bars-Natural-Rubber-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3a61f37447QQitemZ250751448135QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Biltwell-Kung-Fu-Chopper-Grips-7-8-Bars-Natural-Rubber-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3a61f37447QQitemZ250751448135QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)
^^^THESE^^^ are the grips you're looking for.

nah i dont like those at all. Sorrry man.

Im looking for something sleek... maybe i should just go with black... any simple black ones...i dont want a vintage look for these
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (Seat being painted!/ Tail light on order)
Post by: JRK5892 on Feb 11, 2011, 10:19:55
dude i will give you a heads up... on my goldwing i used a set of those grips (granted i tore them down powder coated them to match the build and they put them back together) i will NEVER go with their grips again simply because it took me over 3 hours to get them on... they are not propperly sized. i ended up having to bring the bars into our shop and use the 120 gallon air compressor to help... this was after shaving down the inside of the metal grip inserts with the mill, sanding the piss out of the bars... trying every type of lube... was a bear!
that said...
they do look tits man
if you do go with them... be set for a battle
(http://oi51.tinypic.com/s4x76a.jpg)

(http://oi53.tinypic.com/2mqnmli.jpg)
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (Seat being painted!/ Tail light on order)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 11, 2011, 15:20:27
are those "shorty" shocks?



yes they are...but i was pointing out that i have a silver swing arm now.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (Seat being painted!/ Tail light on order)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 11, 2011, 15:22:24
dude i will give you a heads up... on my goldwing i used a set of those grips (granted i tore them down powder coated them to match the build and they put them back together) i will NEVER go with their grips again simply because it took me over 3 hours to get them on... they are not propperly sized. i ended up having to bring the bars into our shop and use the 120 gallon air compressor to help... this was after shaving down the inside of the metal grip inserts with the mill, sanding the piss out of the bars... trying every type of lube... was a bear!
that said...
they do look tits man
if you do go with them... be set for a battle
(http://oi51.tinypic.com/s4x76a.jpg)

(http://oi53.tinypic.com/2mqnmli.jpg)

ohhh sweet! thanks for posting your pics of them...whats an easier grip to get on? but still looks good... i guess ill just go with black.. maybe SLIGHT ornge accents.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (Seat being painted!/ Tail light on order)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Feb 13, 2011, 01:04:46
Hey man,
Great work with your bike so far. Just read your whole build blog. Learned a ton. I just picked up a 71' CB350 yesterday and literally dropped it off an had to run out the door. I won't be able to start working on it till Monday afternoon. Man I just want to dive in and start getting my hands dirty.  I'll get some pics up and start a build blog asap. Again. Great job!
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (Seat being painted!/ Tail light on order)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 13, 2011, 01:38:17
Hey man,
Great work with your bike so far. Just read your whole build blog. Learned a ton. I just picked up a 71' CB350 yesterday and literally dropped it off an had to run out the door. I won't be able to start working on it till Monday afternoon. Man I just want to dive in and start getting my hands dirty.  I'll get some pics up and start a build blog asap. Again. Great job!

Sounds pretty cool man. Can you post your build thread on my thread right here when you get your pics on here?


And if anything ASK QUESTIONS and Help the people that need help when you know the answers.


Welcome to DO THE TON!
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (Seat being painted!/ Tail light on order)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 13, 2011, 02:40:25
fuck.

my dad brought home a 1979 cm400 and suprised me. he said we are gonna make a bobber for him, but i could have the exhausts (megaphone) for my cb350...!!:)

I tryed taking the cones off but instead while i was wiggling the muffler loose it broke because it was rotted out... :(

no mufflers for blake... :(

Anyways... im looking for a way to make a baffle into my 1 1/2 " pipe.. I need 1 1/8" - 1 1/4" exhaust tubing so the muffler shop can flare it for me... do you guys know where i can find this?
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (Seat being painted!/ Tail light on order)
Post by: NoobZooki on Feb 13, 2011, 03:10:52
Have you decided on grips yet? May I suggest the Road Race Grip 2? They are available on Air Tech Streamlining. It seems like that's the only place I could find them. Anyways, that's the grips I'll be using :)

Scroll down to the bottom of the page.
http://www.airtech-streamlining.com/miscpages/handlebars.html (http://www.airtech-streamlining.com/miscpages/handlebars.html)

(http://www.airtech-streamlining.com/images/GRIP2%7E1.jpg)
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (Seat being painted!/ Tail light on order)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 13, 2011, 12:17:23
Have you decided on grips yet? May I suggest the Road Race Grip 2? They are available on Air Tech Streamlining. It seems like that's the only place I could find them. Anyways, that's the grips I'll be using :)

Scroll down to the bottom of the page.
http://www.airtech-streamlining.com/miscpages/handlebars.html (http://www.airtech-streamlining.com/miscpages/handlebars.html)

(http://www.airtech-streamlining.com/images/GRIP2%7E1.jpg)


THANK YOU!


I love the road race grip 1, and i think ill be getting those.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake ( New pics + Cleaning Rear crank case)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 13, 2011, 19:00:38
Well Guys,

Decided to actually do some work today...

Took the rear crank case off (the one without the gasket that houses the clutch line)
Wow,

SO MUCH GRIME, GUNK, and Grease!

i had to get a flat tip screwdriver just to scrape everything down... my chain had about 1/16" of clearance through the gunk... Cleaned that out... and also decided to take the case off... and experiment with polishing a bit....

!
 
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2640.jpg)(Ouch thats a lot of gunk)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2645.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2647.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2648.jpg)
(This needs new lube)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2646.jpg)(idk how , but my chain got stuck...)
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (Seat being painted!/ Tail light on order)
Post by: stript.714 o/c on Feb 13, 2011, 21:30:59
Have you decided on grips yet? May I suggest the Road Race Grip 2? They are available on Air Tech Streamlining. It seems like that's the only place I could find them. Anyways, that's the grips I'll be using :)

Scroll down to the bottom of the page.
http://www.airtech-streamlining.com/miscpages/handlebars.html (http://www.airtech-streamlining.com/miscpages/handlebars.html)

(http://www.airtech-streamlining.com/images/GRIP2%7E1.jpg)
I agree these grips are cool better then the yellow
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW Pictures w/ crank case polishing )
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 13, 2011, 21:35:04
I agree these grips are cool better then the yellow

Haha well i can wait till later for grips... for now... i suppose i should get the carbs good and jetted.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW Pictures w/ crank case polishing )
Post by: stript.714 o/c on Feb 14, 2011, 02:12:24
i tought you had that bad boy running already.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW Pictures w/ crank case polishing )
Post by: Ringo on Feb 14, 2011, 05:39:59
And I thought I was going to see pics of the crank case getting polished.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW Pictures w/ crank case polishing )
Post by: The Red Wonder on Feb 14, 2011, 13:28:44
And I thought I was going to see pics of the crank case getting polished.

+1
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW Pictures w/ crank case polishing )
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 14, 2011, 19:52:50
i tought you had that bad boy running already.

it runs i just dont have my baffles in my exhaust...

and i dont have my pod filters


i need a place to order a pair.. but i dont wanna spend 50 bucks for a single pair.. i want the best deal possible...

and i will put the pics up now guys...sorry!
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW Pictures w/ crank case polishing )
Post by: stript.714 o/c on Feb 14, 2011, 22:10:51
 ebay there are some $8 ones 16 bucks after ship you might look at 25 bucks
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW Pictures w/ crank case polishing )
Post by: Rocan on Feb 14, 2011, 22:58:49
you didnt even clean out the sprocket cover yet? thats the first thing i do on any bike i get. complete washing of every damn part.


no wonder your "almost done"

you cut every corner ;)
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW Pictures w/ crank case polishing )
Post by: NoobZooki on Feb 14, 2011, 23:03:01
you didnt even clean out the sprocket cover yet? thats the first thing i do on any bike i get. complete washing of every damn part.


no wonder your "almost done"

you cut every corner ;)
That's harsh lol. But true. I always wash every part out as well. Under my sprocket cover, there was spider eggs, a bunch of seeds from random plants, and lots of grease and slime. Not to mention some old o-rings from my chain!

Let's see those polished cases!

Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW Pictures w/ crank case polishing )
Post by: stript.714 o/c on Feb 15, 2011, 03:53:59
Yeah man what they said . I would hate to see the way you wipe your ass!!!
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW Pictures w/ crank case polishing )
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 15, 2011, 13:35:44
Yeah man what they said . I would hate to see the way you wipe your ass!!!
Hey man, watch it... im doing as much as i can.





Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW Pictures w/ crank case polishing )
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 15, 2011, 13:39:54
you didnt even clean out the sprocket cover yet? thats the first thing i do on any bike i get. complete washing of every damn part.


no wonder your "almost done"

you cut every corner ;)

done with the easy parts...almost...

then comes the grind of polishing everything...fine tuning, and making my bike run like clock work.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW Pictures w/ crank case polishing )
Post by: stript.714 o/c on Feb 15, 2011, 16:10:42
aahhhh man dont get them in a bunch!! your doing great bud
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW Pictures w/ crank case polishing )
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 15, 2011, 23:05:45
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2657.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2671.jpg)

You asked, You got.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW Pictures w/ crank case polishing )
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Feb 15, 2011, 23:51:56
Very Nice! Good work, keep it up.
Title: Re: CB350 by Blake (NEW Pictures w/ crank case polishing )
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 20, 2011, 13:57:26
New updates:
My baffle search is going along slowly... i want to use my pipes badly. but dont want to make a baffle because copper is expensive!

My seat is still in paint because the guy cant match my paint... but all bondo work is done...
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: VonYinzer on Feb 21, 2011, 11:08:59
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/4-Inch-Mini-Baffle-1-3-4-diameter-pipes-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem20b51e00b4QQitemZ140477595828QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/4-Inch-Mini-Baffle-1-3-4-diameter-pipes-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem20b51e00b4QQitemZ140477595828QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)

OR

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/8-long-baffle-1-3-4-pipes-harley-motorcycle-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem27b491f306QQitemZ170533188358QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/8-long-baffle-1-3-4-pipes-harley-motorcycle-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem27b491f306QQitemZ170533188358QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 21, 2011, 11:24:01
those are too big von. Or i wouldve already bought them. trust me. i need 1 1/2 which seems to be hard to find.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: VonYinzer on Feb 21, 2011, 11:42:38
Im aware...
The only part of those thats 1.75 is the wide section at the end. Buy them, modify the ends to fit, and go.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 21, 2011, 14:01:17
Im aware...
The only part of those thats 1.75 is the wide section at the end. Buy them, modify the ends to fit, and go.

good plan.  i dont think they make caps for those though do they? should i find a 1 1/4inch cap at lowes and then braze it on the end of this?
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 21, 2011, 23:01:13
Welp guys, New plan, i bought a cl 350 for 175bucks with no title. Its a 1970, it has perfect chrome exhaust... im using that on my cb350.
pics in a sec.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: stript.714 o/c on Feb 21, 2011, 23:25:48
dude you scored ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 21, 2011, 23:30:38
dude you scored ;D ;D ;D
Yeah i did..if i didnt think i could make money i wouldnt of bought it... the gauges look new too i might steal them.
 
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2672.jpg)
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 21, 2011, 23:34:43
heres those gauges.
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2674.jpg)
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: stript.714 o/c on Feb 22, 2011, 00:23:28
Dude that is a clean bike for the price looks like project number two dont sell it.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 22, 2011, 02:27:26
No title bro :( :( :(

I have a question.. Will my 70 cl exhaust have the same exhaust flanges on the end as my 71cb?
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: stript.714 o/c on Feb 22, 2011, 12:34:49
No title bro :( :( :(

I have a question.. Will my 70 cl exhaust have the same exhaust flanges on the end as my 71cb?


It should link right up, cb360s and the cl 360s do. You can still title that bike. get the bill of sale notorised go to the dmv and  ask about the process
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: diesel450 on Feb 22, 2011, 14:33:01
Yeah, and if worse comes to worst I can get you a registration through Maine and you can then register it where you are.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: VonYinzer on Feb 22, 2011, 15:06:27
Man, though I hate seeing anyone sell a clean bike like that, you may want to. Only to ensure that you have the funds to finish the bike you have now. Youre young, there will be plenty of other bikes.

Ahhhh.... What the hell am I saying? Keep it.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 22, 2011, 16:37:49
Man, though I hate seeing anyone sell a clean bike like that, you may want to. Only to ensure that you have the funds to finish the bike you have now. Youre young, there will be plenty of other bikes.

Ahhhh.... What the hell am I saying? Keep it.

Im thinking, non cafe, totally original full restoration?
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: VonYinzer on Feb 22, 2011, 16:40:12
Sure, but dont use those pipes on your cafe then. And although a resto' seems easy, if you want to do it right it can cost a mint.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 22, 2011, 21:24:12
Sure, but dont use those pipes on your cafe then. And although a resto' seems easy, if you want to do it right it can cost a mint.

the "drain" hole in the bottom of the exhaust is starting to rust and makes for a bigger hole...will that be a bad deal... its only one pipe.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: Rocan on Feb 22, 2011, 21:25:33
dude, sick score on that cl!

on your polishing... i see some spots where you can see casting marks. not bad on the rest of it though. that is a PRETTY buffer you have there.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 22, 2011, 21:31:07
dude, sick score on that cl!

on your polishing... i see some spots where you can see casting marks. not bad on the rest of it though. that is a PRETTY buffer you have there.


thanks man, if i dont end up using them on my cafe ill just put them back on the cl, make a restoration on it... itll be sweet.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: Erskine on Feb 22, 2011, 21:32:13
Where have you been rocan?
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 22, 2011, 21:36:29
Where have you been rocan?


where has ANY ONE been? my thread has been dead.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: VonYinzer on Feb 22, 2011, 23:32:09
Awww... feelin unloved? haha
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: DrJ on Feb 22, 2011, 23:38:29
The CL pipes weigh like a quarter ton. Counterproductive if you're building a lightweight cafe racer. Keep them on the CL and do the restoration, they look really sharp in stock trim.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: stript.714 o/c on Feb 23, 2011, 04:20:38
 :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[  check me out where is every one loll
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: Yukabodos on Feb 23, 2011, 07:26:08
I like this thread.
The cl pipes are way-cool if you trim the back end off. 
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: Rocan on Feb 23, 2011, 10:10:13
Where have you been rocan?


either in bed with my girlfriend, at work, or on top of a mountain.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: VonYinzer on Feb 23, 2011, 11:10:22
Well arent you the fucking bees knees... Hahahaha
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 23, 2011, 16:32:08
nah not unloved, just unappriciated. :b
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: Rocan on Feb 23, 2011, 17:23:29
nah not unloved, just unappriciated. :b

there are some days when you get no replies and wonder if people lost interest, then other days when you get 25 replies in 20 minutes...

keep at it man... if you provide the people with cool shit, they will read your thread more often then a crackhead gets his fix.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: VonYinzer on Feb 23, 2011, 18:28:12
Not bein' a dick BLAKE, but what exactly are we here to appreciate? Your building a bike. So is everyone else.

Build your bike for you. If you need help, someone will chime in. Theres no need to get upset because 100 people dont stop in to pat ya on the back everyday. You have a cool project happening here. Finishing it should be your only concern.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: JRK5892 on Feb 23, 2011, 18:30:17
well put...
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: The Red Wonder on Feb 23, 2011, 18:56:49
Not bein' a dick BLAKE, but what exactly are we here to appreciate? Your building a bike. So is everyone else.

Build your bike for you. If you need help, someone will chime in. Theres no need to get upset because 100 people dont stop in to pat ya on the back everyday. You have a cool project happening here. Finishing it should be your only concern.

+1, this is not myspace.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: JRK5892 on Feb 23, 2011, 18:59:12
dont worry blake if it was... i would friend request you
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: Rocan on Feb 23, 2011, 22:16:45
joe if you friend requested me and if i didnt know you better i would report you to the child predators registry ;)

agreed with others... build for yourself.... there was a time when everyone on a certain site was so negative towards me (truth is i didnt know what the fuck i was doing and was blindly stating my opinion ;0) that I left that site, but was not discouraged. i continued to build, because in the end, its YOUR bike, and if you want to paint it pink and have 4 foot streamers from your clipons, then go ahead and do it.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 23, 2011, 23:37:16
+1, this is not myspace.

Hey man, i want positive vibes on my thread, or constructive critizism. No negitivity.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 23, 2011, 23:38:04
joe if you friend requested me and if i didnt know you better i would report you to the child predators registry ;)

agreed with others... build for yourself.... there was a time when everyone on a certain site was so negative towards me (truth is i didnt know what the fuck i was doing and was blindly stating my opinion ;0) that I left that site, but was not discouraged. i continued to build, because in the end, its YOUR bike, and if you want to paint it pink and have 4 foot streamers from your clipons, then go ahead and do it.

actually only 3ft streamers.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 23, 2011, 23:39:43
back to the action, My tank is having difficulty in paint, they had to bring someone in to match it... using a camera i guess... this is tickin me off... i hope we can paint it soon.. I plan on working on my bike this weekend...but for me...School comes first, considering i want to be an engineer.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (update feb 20th 2011)
Post by: B L A K E on Feb 28, 2011, 19:59:12
Hey guys new updates, Patched up the cl350 exhaust... with some quiksteel. Gonna try to sand it down and do something with it so it doesnt look like TOTAL shit, Bondo'd a little more of my seat...its taking awhile because they are photo matching my paint scheme... Got ahold of an upholster for my seat that said i can clean his shop for the price of my seat... So swapping again! Also, Got my petcock resealed... so no leaks!!! :) Cleaned the garage up a little bit and now im just waiting to get enough money for mikunis.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (Baffles done, Grips/Pod filters from DCC ordered)
Post by: B L A K E on Mar 06, 2011, 23:11:16
My baffles are installed inside my homemade pipes.
Now i need to find a way without welding to install them to the headers... what kinda clamps are you all using.
 
Also, my DCC Pods and grips are coming.
 
Pics to come!
 
-thanks all!
blake
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (Baffles done, Grips/Pod filters from DCC ordered)
Post by: Ringo on Mar 06, 2011, 23:59:51
You could drill and rivet/bolt them.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (Baffles done, Grips/Pod filters from DCC ordered)
Post by: B L A K E on Mar 07, 2011, 21:06:41
You could drill and rivet/bolt them.
ehh ill just clamp them... i found some clamps.

My dad suprised me with Unis today. i was pretty happy. He said it was a present for good grades this quarter.
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (Baffles done, Grips/Pod filters from DCC ordered)
Post by: Ringo on Mar 18, 2011, 17:58:25
Yeah sorry, misread the original question.  I thought you were wanting to secure the baffles in the pipes.

Any updates? 
Title: Re: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (Baffles done, Grips/Pod filters from DCC ordered)
Post by: B L A K E on Mar 20, 2011, 13:07:43
Yes, im uploading pics in a sec.
Title: Blake's 1971 cb350 Cafe Racer (Update March 23rd, 2011 SEAT DONE.)
Post by: B L A K E on Mar 23, 2011, 21:47:05
So after a lot of wait, i got my seat back from paint and im pretty happy with it. :) Did a little work with a die grinder to make it fit on the frame and it fits great now.
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2754.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2775.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2758.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2779.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2777.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2756.jpg)
 
Just need it upholstered now!
 
 
 
 
ALSO , i have removed the triple tree, greased the ball bearings and cleaned the crude out of there... MUCH BETTER NOW.
 
I am currently polishing the triple tree to a mirror finish.
 
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2766.jpg)
 
Bought some rattle cans for my headers an pipes...
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2776.jpg)
 
Woot Woot. Installed some Unis and installed my grips... just need to buy some grip stick to get it to stay...
 
Thanks for waiting guys.
 
Cheers!
Blake
Title: Re: Blakes Cb350 Cafe Racer (March 23rd 2011 Update SEAT DONE!)
Post by: t71ford on Mar 23, 2011, 23:58:22
Wow! That seat looks really good. Cool to see the project moving forward. ;D
Title: Re: Blakes Cb350 Cafe Racer (March 23rd 2011 Update SEAT DONE!)
Post by: Rocan on Mar 24, 2011, 00:04:52
lookinggg goood.
Title: Re: Blakes Cb350 Cafe Racer (March 23rd 2011 Update SEAT DONE!)
Post by: TestMonkey on Mar 24, 2011, 00:31:00
Nice job, looks great! Like the orange paint job.  8)
Title: Re: Blakes Cb350 Cafe Racer (March 23rd 2011 Update SEAT DONE!)
Post by: barnicle on Mar 24, 2011, 01:08:24
ya good color match. good lookin bike, its really coming together.
Title: Re: Blakes Cb350 Cafe Racer (March 23rd 2011 Update SEAT DONE!)
Post by: Ringo on Mar 24, 2011, 05:33:50
Yeah, glad you stuck with the orange, man.  Looks great.
Title: Re: Blakes Cb350 Cafe Racer (March 23rd 2011 Update SEAT DONE!)
Post by: B L A K E on Mar 24, 2011, 13:34:53
Thanks everyone i appriaciate the compliments any other suggestions?
Title: Re: Blakes Cb350 Cafe Racer (March 23rd 2011 Update SEAT DONE!)
Post by: barnicle on Mar 24, 2011, 23:21:01
put the triple clamp back on and get out and enjoy the springtime :) !
Title: Re: Blakes Cb350 Cafe Racer (March 23rd 2011 Update SEAT DONE!)
Post by: B L A K E on Mar 25, 2011, 13:41:39
put the triple clamp back on and get out and enjoy the springtime :) !

Polishing it still haha. Or else id be tuning it right now. I need to just put my cl350 pipes on. they will bolt right on... and look great.
Title: Re: Blakes Cb350 Cafe Racer (March 23rd 2011 Update SEAT DONE!)
Post by: barnicle on Mar 26, 2011, 00:30:39
Oh nice I want some of those pipes :P ! What I realy want, (after I finish the 360) is an sl 350 with the cl pipes, set up with street tires like a super moto.
Title: Re: Blakes Cb350 Cafe Racer (March 23rd 2011 Update SEAT DONE!)
Post by: Rocan on Mar 26, 2011, 16:10:29
CL Pipes are HEAVY. though they do look cool.

Title: Re: Blakes Cb350 Cafe Racer (March 23rd 2011 Update SEAT DONE!)
Post by: stik70 on Mar 26, 2011, 16:31:14
Your Bike is looking Fantastic! Good Job Blake!!
Kev
Title: Re: Blakes Cb350 Cafe Racer (March 23rd 2011 Update SEAT DONE!)
Post by: B L A K E on Mar 26, 2011, 19:08:57
CL Pipes are HEAVY. though they do look cool.



Well yess.. and they are period correct which is why im going to use them hopefully.
Title: Re: Blakes Cb350 Cafe Racer (March 23rd 2011 Update SEAT DONE!)
Post by: B L A K E on Mar 31, 2011, 14:03:33
Polishing more parts lately, more pictures soon. Going to get clamps for exhausts today finally. and then ill be jetting it this weekend.
Title: Re: Blakes Cb350 Cafe Racer (March 23rd 2011 Update SEAT DONE!)
Post by: B L A K E on Apr 10, 2011, 13:19:02
Thank-You everyone who has been following my thread!
Here she is. with all the grunt work done... I cleaned out the carbs and took it to get jetted.
Shes running like a top now... Although i think that something is still working wrong...i can only get her up to 85mph :b Ive head ppl going 95....
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2794.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2796.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2797.jpg)

Gotta love them cl350 pipes

I still have some major work ahead of me....

Things to do:
Wire in brake light with bracket[]
*Lessen power load on the battery*
//New Solid state recifier[]
New Highoutput stator or Magneto upgrade[]
Grip glue[]
secure seat better[]
seat pad[]
Fork covers[]
fork oil[] 10w 20w or 30w?
brace across back frame *waiting on metal and new welding tips for mig*[]
Clean tank out throughly[]
seak tank[]
Sidecovers[]
New Cables[]
Dwell the points[]
Carb Sync[]
Swing arm sanded and painted[]
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: imseamless on Apr 10, 2011, 13:37:41
Those CL pipes look really nice on there. Great job man
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: haplo_84 on Apr 10, 2011, 13:49:56
did you have it up to 95 with the stock intake on? if so it could be the main jet is a little small for the topend now?
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: Erskine on Apr 10, 2011, 16:12:49
Looking GREAT!
How do you plan to pad the seat/what with?
I'm looking for ideas!
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: t71ford on Apr 10, 2011, 16:14:53
 
Looks really good, Blake! Should be riding soon :)
 
When you upgrade your regulator, use one from a later model Yamaha or Kawasaki that is a MOSFET transistor unit. The Yamaha R1 from about 2003 on uses a MOSFET R/R. If your R/R wires are three yellows, one green, and two reds, it should plug in to the Yamaha R1 unit as follows:
 
(http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww180/t71ford/rr_mod_plug.jpg)
 
I checked Ringo's CB550, and it has those wire colors. Of course wire color does not matter; you should have three of one color (the stator wires), one power, and one ground. In the diagram, green is ground and red is power.
 
The modern regulators come finned for better heat dispersion, so make sure to mount it where some air can get at it.
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: kookie31 on Apr 10, 2011, 16:19:01
bad ass blake! your bike turned out real nice. awesome work
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: Big Rich on Apr 10, 2011, 16:51:59
Looks good man. You said it needs fork oil- plan on fork seals too. And I wouldn't go heavier than 15w in them.
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: HerrDeacon on Apr 10, 2011, 17:52:28
Looks great, nice work!
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Apr 11, 2011, 00:55:52
Looking Sick Blake,
Great job so far. Keep up the good work.

A couple tips.

*Lessen power load on the battery* - I just ordered some led lights for my gauges. Got them off Ebay for a buck a piece with free shipping. They are from China, so it may be a bit before I get them. I will let you know how they work. If they are good I will shoot you the link. Also, throw on a LED taillight. Cant remember if you have one already

//New Solid state recifier[] - Radio Shak, its like 3$-4$ and super easy mod. Just clip the four wires from the old rectifier, put blade type connectors on them and hook them up to the corresponding tabs
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062584&cp=&origkw=rectifier&kw=rectifier&parentPage=search (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062584&cp=&origkw=rectifier&kw=rectifier&parentPage=search)

seat pad[] - Made mine from camping pad (blue pad), I think its like $10 at Walmart or REI, and like $10 worth of vinyl from a fabric store.
 
Fork covers[] - Just got some from djelliot, for a decent price. He shipped them the same day, they should be here any day now. I think he said he had a couple pairs. Worth shooting him a message.

fork oil[] 10w 20w or 30w? - Stock is SAE 10W, 200cc per piston.
 
Clean tank out throughly[] - I tried a couple different methods. Toilet bowl cleaner, Vinegar both worked fine and were cheap, but the tank is still not perfect. 1000 times better but not perfect. Let me know if you want further instruction for either method. Make sure you throw a good inline fuel filter (paper filament catches much more that the metal mesh) on each fuel line, no matter what you do. I have heard mixed stories on tank sealing. I am not an expert by any means, but right now, my tank is not sealed.

New Cables[] - Got most of mine from ebay, and motion pro for pretty cheap. I can send you the links if you are interested.

Dwell the points[] - Not sure what this is, please enlighten me.

I just set my valve clearances today. They were very slightly off. You may want to do this if you haven't already. Very simple to do.

Do you have a Honda Shop Manual? If not let me know, I have a pdf, (its awesome) and I will email you. Hit me up if you have any other questions, I'll do my best.

Keep up the good work, the bike is looking really good.
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: barnicle on Apr 11, 2011, 01:03:44
very lovely out there in the sunshine. :)
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: B L A K E on Apr 11, 2011, 20:26:00
Looking Sick Blake,
Great job so far. Keep up the good work.

A couple tips.

*Lessen power load on the battery* - I just ordered some led lights for my gauges. Got them off Ebay for a buck a piece with free shipping. They are from China, so it may be a bit before I get them. I will let you know how they work. If they are good I will shoot you the link. Also, throw on a LED taillight. Cant remember if you have one already

//New Solid state recifier[] - Radio Shak, its like 3$-4$ and super easy mod. Just clip the four wires from the old rectifier, put blade type connectors on them and hook them up to the corresponding tabs
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062584&cp=&origkw=rectifier&kw=rectifier&parentPage=search (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062584&cp=&origkw=rectifier&kw=rectifier&parentPage=search)

seat pad[] - Made mine from camping pad (blue pad), I think its like $10 at Walmart or REI, and like $10 worth of vinyl from a fabric store.
 
Fork covers[] - Just got some from djelliot, for a decent price. He shipped them the same day, they should be here any day now. I think he said he had a couple pairs. Worth shooting him a message.

fork oil[] 10w 20w or 30w? - Stock is SAE 10W, 200cc per piston.
 
Clean tank out throughly[] - I tried a couple different methods. Toilet bowl cleaner, Vinegar both worked fine and were cheap, but the tank is still not perfect. 1000 times better but not perfect. Let me know if you want further instruction for either method. Make sure you throw a good inline fuel filter (paper filament catches much more that the metal mesh) on each fuel line, no matter what you do. I have heard mixed stories on tank sealing. I am not an expert by any means, but right now, my tank is not sealed.

New Cables[] - Got most of mine from ebay, and motion pro for pretty cheap. I can send you the links if you are interested.

Dwell the points[] - Not sure what this is, please enlighten me.

I just set my valve clearances today. They were very slightly off. You may want to do this if you haven't already. Very simple to do.

Do you have a Honda Shop Manual? If not let me know, I have a pdf, (its awesome) and I will email you. Hit me up if you have any other questions, I'll do my best.

Keep up the good work, the bike is looking really good.
cool thanks man for everything! Dwelling the points is a lot more accurate then just using a feeler gauge... it just gets the points accurate.

Send me the link for the LED gauge lights please? are they Ba9s?
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Apr 11, 2011, 23:02:27
Good to know about dwelling the points. Thanks


Here is the link, and yes they are Ba9s. Like I said though, they are from China, so I will see how quality they are when they are. But for $1 each what the heck.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280643470115&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280643470115&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: Erskine on Apr 12, 2011, 10:19:15
Buffy had better button up his flies and get a wiggle on if he's gonna catch up with you ;)
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: JRK5892 on Apr 12, 2011, 11:43:46
bike looks good in the sun man!
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! P
Post by: stript.714 o/c on Apr 12, 2011, 11:48:30
 Blake what is that seat made from? That thing is not going to hold up when riding . pat in the back on tuning your bike dude
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: B L A K E on Apr 12, 2011, 13:36:10
Blake what is that seat made from? That thing is not going to hold up when riding . pat in the back on tuning your bike dude

Thanks man. And its 8 layers of fiberglass and short hair glass layer. PLUS i have 1/8 inch aluminum rails on the sides lined with a 1/3 of an inch of epoxy for anti cracking support
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: The Red Wonder on Apr 12, 2011, 14:09:41

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2794.jpg)


Bike is looking nice and clean, but you HAVE to do something with your gauges!  They look way too goofy sitting way high up like that. Try and nest them around the headlight, or bring them down a little. They just interrupt the lines of the bike tooo much.
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: ewd on Apr 12, 2011, 14:13:16
Bike is looking nice and clean, but you HAVE to do something with your gauges!  They look way too goofy sitting way high up like that. Try and nest them around the headlight, or bring them down a little. They just interrupt the lines of the bike tooo much.

The bike looks fantastic!  Great work!  I also agree with The Red Wonder, sinking those gauges a bit will definitely give it more of a streamlined look and will add to the awesomeness of the bike!
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: Ringo on Apr 12, 2011, 14:18:34
Blake, it looks great man!  You ought to be proud.  Regarding the seat, the only possible problem area could be where the hump meets the seat base.  As long as you have no glass seams in that area, it will hold up no problem.

A good test of this is throwing a little lady on back and seeing how it does. ;)
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! P
Post by: barnicle on Apr 12, 2011, 23:15:20
Blake what is that seat made from? That thing is not going to hold up when riding . pat in the back on tuning your bike dude
that seat will be hear long after you are gone.  :-X
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! P
Post by: stript.714 o/c on Apr 13, 2011, 01:41:31
that seat will be hear long after you are gone.  :-X
Sure bud!!
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: B L A K E on Apr 13, 2011, 17:04:51
trust me the seat is gonna hold up. Lol. But thanks for the compliments everyone...soo ill be getting the striping done and the tail light installed...
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: diesel450 on Apr 15, 2011, 10:53:04
Blake, Looks good man!! I do agree that you need to relocate those gauges though, very distracting. I like your seat choice, nice change from the rounder ones and it suits the bike well.

good luck with the finishing touches.
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: B L A K E on Apr 15, 2011, 16:41:31
Blake, Looks good man!! I do agree that you need to relocate those gauges though, very distracting. I like your seat choice, nice change from the rounder ones and it suits the bike well.

good luck with the finishing touches.

Hahaha you guys were freaking out when i said i didnt want the rounded one... i hate conformity. i like my individuality...it makes me. Ya i could go buy a 250 ninja but ill ride my cafe instead...BECAUSE I CAN! built not bought.
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: Erskine on Apr 15, 2011, 17:16:45
Monty Python - Life of Brian - Your're all different (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVygqjyS4CA#)

;)
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: B L A K E on Apr 15, 2011, 17:34:41
lol @ the video... So basically you are calling me just the same as everyone?
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: Erskine on Apr 15, 2011, 17:41:47
Are you calling me fat?


lol ;)
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: barnicle on Apr 16, 2011, 01:27:54
so in the modern world we have an interesting and ironic situation. In place of traditional culture we have what is known as Pop culture -really a marketing based social/political/religious structure-. many people in our society seek out pop culture as a way of establishing themselves in society, others seek out a sub culture where they can be"an individual" yet they are human and so they find it necessary based on genitic predisposition and inferiority to start dictating that every one who is "punk rock" ," rockabilly ", "Goth", "hippy", or whatever must think and feal and look a certain way. Welcome to humanity the place where 99.9% of us have an absolute need to be a part of something bigger than our selves, but few of us understand what that something is.
 Keep making waves -you'll fit right in ;) .
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: B L A K E on Apr 16, 2011, 01:59:10
lol. Back to the bike please! My bike is making 12.6 volts at idle with out the headlight on... is that bad? im idling at about 900rpm NOT warmed up... and about 1300-1400 warm.


What are the points supposed to be set at? i know about .012-.016 but what do you guys have them set at? and is it okay to index the spark plugs or does it really matter with this small of a bike?
are the spark plugs gaps supposed to be about .026? what works for you guys because my manual is either lying to me...or my bike has an issue...it feels like its "bucking" when i take off in first gear... it kinda "sputters hard" and then takes off smooth...i dont get it...
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: t71ford on Apr 16, 2011, 02:21:41
I thought you were going to set the points by dwell?? Don't you need to be looking for a dwell angle?
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: diesel450 on Apr 16, 2011, 10:43:48
Um, I said I like the seat, I didn't say you had engineered a whole new era in cafe seat design. easy tiger.

nice work though, I had my doubts you'd ever get it done! keep at it!!
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: B L A K E on Apr 16, 2011, 12:19:06
I thought you were going to set the points by dwell?? Don't you need to be looking for a dwell angle?

Yes but i need to borrow one... and for now im using a *feeler gauge* sorry... thats what i meant to say... **edited
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: barnicle on Apr 16, 2011, 13:26:55
Do you get the same hesitation warm as cold? Choke off or partial choke? I am just thinking it might be carbaration.
There is another issue I have been wondering about on these old Hondas, that I have not yet experimented with, and that is the spark advance. The possible issue I see with them, is the springs, which may have gotten soft over the last few decades.
If they have  then the result would be that the advance of the spark would happen at a low rpm instead of high rpm.
Hopefully someone, who has fixed such a problem can weigh in.

p.s. Don't laugh to much at my previous post. It may just be, the most universally relevant piece of advice anyone has ever given you.
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! P
Post by: VonYinzer on Apr 16, 2011, 15:17:25
Blake... Set everything to the stock specs. I have a feeling that youre playing around with eveything too much and not remembering exactly what youve done. Happens to everyone. The hesitation does certainly sound like a carb/fuel issue though. And Barnicle, no disresppect, but what are you talkin' about? Haha... Let the kid do his thing.
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! P
Post by: VonYinzer on Apr 16, 2011, 15:20:05
Its not as though a cocky teenage boy is an unheard of creature... Hes proud of what hes done. Let him have a big head for a bit. Hes now realizing that celebrating early when building old bikes can bite ya in the ass. Hahaha
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: HerrDeacon on Apr 16, 2011, 16:15:06
What are the points supposed to be set at? i know about .012-.016 but what do you guys have them set at?

are the spark plugs gaps supposed to be about .026?

it feels like its "bucking" when i take off in first gear... it kinda "sputters hard" and then takes off smooth...i dont get it...

Yes, point gap is .012 - .016 on the 350. However, most of the time you just have to adjust the gap on the left side. On the 350's, you set the left gap within specs and then time the left cylinder to fire exactly on the indexes. Then you adjust the right points to fire exactly on their index, and then check its gap. If within specs, you are fine. Altering the gap will change the timing.

Based on the manual I have the spark plug gap is 0.028 - 0.032 in. What type of plug are you running? Standard plug is a NGK B8ES.

Off idle stumbling is generally running lean. Have you ensured the pilot jet is squeaky clean? Have the mixture screws been adjusted (1 1/8 to start with)? Float level checked? Carbs sync'd?

Like Von said, put everything back to stock specs and work from there.
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: t71ford on Apr 16, 2011, 19:07:20
Yes but i need to borrow one... and for now im using a dwell meter

???

If you are using a dwell meter to set the dwell angle, why are you looking for point gap specs? Your point gap and dwell angle are essentially the same thing. One measures the physical widest point of the breaker point opening, and the otherelectrically  measures the duration of time at which the points are open. Both will end in the same place, but the setting dwell is usually faster and more accurate.

Sorry if you know this, I am just confused at what you are needing to borrow if you have a dwell meter, and if you are using a dwell meter, why you are looking for a point gap spec.
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: B L A K E on Apr 17, 2011, 00:20:24
Yes, point gap is .012 - .016 on the 350. However, most of the time you just have to adjust the gap on the left side. On the 350's, you set the left gap within specs and then time the left cylinder to fire exactly on the indexes. Then you adjust the right points to fire exactly on their index, and then check its gap. If within specs, you are fine. Altering the gap will change the timing.

Based on the manual I have the spark plug gap is 0.028 - 0.032 in. What type of plug are you running? Standard plug is a NGK B8ES.

Off idle stumbling is generally running lean. Have you ensured the pilot jet is squeaky clean? Have the mixture screws been adjusted (1 1/8 to start with)? Float level checked? Carbs sync'd?

Like Von said, put everything back to stock specs and work from there.
i set my NGKs (B8ES) to 0.029 and im just getting a SLIGHTTTTTT jump at the begining of first gear... its not the clutch grabbing either... i think it might be the valves.. but im running a TADDD bit rich...... would that cause it to do that?
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: barnicle on Apr 17, 2011, 12:28:08
what do you mean by "slight jump" in first gear? Is it the jump that happens when you shift from neutral to first? or do you mean that when you attempt to rev evenly thew the rpm range in first, you hit a specific rpm where the there is a 'slight Jump' in power?
edit: Or is it something else?
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: B L A K E on Apr 17, 2011, 21:16:38
what do you mean by "slight jump" in first gear? Is it the jump that happens when you shift from neutral to first? or do you mean that when you attempt to rev evenly thew the rpm range in first, you hit a specific rpm where the there is a 'slight Jump' in power?
edit: Or is it something else?
i mean after i throttle up after the clutch grabs its like a putter.... sound... almost like it acts like its not enough gas but that cant be..
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: GLENNWOOD55CAMEO on Apr 18, 2011, 18:13:32
Nice job Blake, I just read the whole thread from start to now. Congrats on getting it running.  I just finished doing the cafe thing to my son's 72 CB350. Basically it was all cosmetic stuff. I will say that he bought a set of Mikuni 30's and that was the best money he spent on the whole deal. What a difference they make as far as acceleration and top end speed. He bought them from www.Speedmotoco.com (http://www.Speedmotoco.com). They advertised them as being jetted already for your specific bike. Just tell them what you have and where you live and they supposedly jet them correctly for you. I bolted them up and it fired up the second kick and haven't had to mess with the jetting on them at all except the normal adjustments. Good luck and I'll be lurking here on the rest of your thread........ 8)
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Post by: Erskine on Apr 18, 2011, 18:38:06
Random Suggestion ........  Purely because it's a problem I just addressed today ......
Are you running 'in line' fuel filters there?
Some just don't seem to work well in a gravity system and actually require fuel to be pushed through to keep them properly full and free of air.
I was getting what turned out to be fuel starvation when I got into mid range rpm.
Just a thought?
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Post by: B L A K E on Apr 19, 2011, 18:05:32
This was a thought of mine .. Hmm we'll see
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Post by: teazer on Apr 20, 2011, 23:56:25
How much throttle are you giving it when you start off? 1/4, 1/2 full as soon as the clutch is out? That might help to pinpoint the issue.

How are the carbs adjusted and are they stock jets or did you change the jets to match the filters?

Ignition advance springs on old Hondas do tend to stretch and the usual symptom is either the revs don't drop far enough when decelerating or the idle speed varies up and down. You aren't describing either symptom so I'm going with jetting.

Sounds almost like it's too lean off idle.  Try adjusting the air/fuel screws to richen it up slightly and see if that cleans it up.
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Post by: B L A K E on Apr 21, 2011, 13:26:00
The revs do jump about 200 to 300 from 1200rpm back sand forth
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Post by: B L A K E on Apr 21, 2011, 13:27:34
The plugs say it's too rich though... Which is why I'm confused
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: barnicle on Apr 22, 2011, 00:37:24
I tried running my bike a week or so ago -knew it wouldn't run right, but couldn't resist: has not been rejeted, no filters, sort baffles. just sitting there idling it was spewing gas, but then when I tried to ride it had all the signs of being to lean. I chocked it to check, -which seemed to make it spew again-, but then when I eased the choke out to a ceartain point the bike suddenly shot off almost leaving me sitting on the street; which meant it was lean. The conclusion I came to is that you can be to rich on the idle jet for instance and way to lean on the main.
I also took a closer look at my diaphragms, I had inspected them, but this time I stretched them just a tiny bit and found two holes near the slide on one of them.
So long story short, being to lean at one rpm, and to rich at another, is not out of the question.
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Post by: Erskine on Apr 22, 2011, 10:36:23
The plugs say it's too rich though... Which is why I'm confused
I'm getting rich indications from mine too, despite running a K&N type pod.
Beats me.
Hey ho.
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: B L A K E on Apr 25, 2011, 00:27:06
i looked at the air fuel screw to check if maybe The PO had done something wrong... it was OUT 4 1/2 turns! ahhahahaha! i turned it back to the stock 1 to 1 1/4 turns and it was a whole new bike... runs great... plugs are great... still wanting to do a little more with my bike but it runs so good right now... Im going to hopefully get the seat on it soon.
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Post by: Erskine on Apr 25, 2011, 10:35:21
Oh Yes! Way to go mate.
Another winter project on to the starting grid :)
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: B L A K E on Apr 26, 2011, 23:40:07
hmmm my bike runs flawlessly but it just doesnt like the headlight being on at all..
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: barnicle on Apr 26, 2011, 23:47:31
details? ???
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Post by: B L A K E on Apr 26, 2011, 23:49:41
sorry, it just runs like its not getting power to the sparkplugs when i run the lights on.
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Post by: Ringo on Apr 26, 2011, 23:52:36
Did you do an H4 conversion?  Battery fully charged?
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Post by: KrashManhatten on Apr 27, 2011, 00:21:38
join the club, i have a 360 that prefers the lights off to.

not that it is a bad thing.... but i found that LED conversions fixed its ass.
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Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Apr 27, 2011, 02:26:55
Great Job Blake,


Glad you got that baby purring. Do you know what size jets you have in there? Doing a similar setup as yours on a friends bike.


Good luck with that headlight
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: JRK5892 on Apr 27, 2011, 11:30:33
blake scoot looks great man! well done brother! i would pull every light off the bike and swap it to LED, on the headlight... you have a few options, one would be to core the lamp and run HID in there, HID has a VERY low power draw and is AWESOME for lighting (have this in almost every bike i own)
antoher cheaper and easier way to deal with it is:
drill a small hole in the back of the lamp, from here you can drop a large LED in there (white) this will light up the lamp durring the day and get you legal wiht almost no power draw, run your headlight power to this (be sure it has a resister) then run your brights (high) to the light normally
so when your headlight is in the "on" possition it will light up with the led (you can add several) and when your riding at night you just flip on the brights... your golden...
i have run LEDS in several lamps both for LED lighting to go with the bike and this same reason, works great, cost next to nothing... and really helps old bikes charging systems!
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Post by: JRK5892 on Apr 27, 2011, 11:31:27
also be sure you have a fresh battery... are you sure your bike is charging? check the termianls when the bike is running you want to be sure it is charging... it should go up when you rev it
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: B L A K E on Apr 27, 2011, 16:39:55
Did you do an H4 conversion?  Battery fully charged?
dude im 17 i cant afford the H4 conversion. yes battery has full juice.
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Post by: B L A K E on Apr 27, 2011, 16:40:39
also be sure you have a fresh battery... are you sure your bike is charging? check the termianls when the bike is running you want to be sure it is charging... it should go up when you rev it
it does go up... its 12.6 at idle and spikes to 14ish when i rev past 3k rpms
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: B L A K E on Apr 27, 2011, 16:43:00
blake scoot looks great man! well done brother! i would pull every light off the bike and swap it to LED, on the headlight... you have a few options, one would be to core the lamp and run HID in there, HID has a VERY low power draw and is AWESOME for lighting (have this in almost every bike i own)
antoher cheaper and easier way to deal with it is:
drill a small hole in the back of the lamp, from here you can drop a large LED in there (white) this will light up the lamp durring the day and get you legal wiht almost no power draw, run your headlight power to this (be sure it has a resister) then run your brights (high) to the light normally
so when your headlight is in the "on" possition it will light up with the led (you can add several) and when your riding at night you just flip on the brights... your golden...
i have run LEDS in several lamps both for LED lighting to go with the bike and this same reason, works great, cost next to nothing... and really helps old bikes charging systems!

HMMMM. This is smart... ill consider it. What kinda resistors would i have to use... i have no clue when it comes to wiring my own lights.... especially LED stuff.
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: B L A K E on Apr 27, 2011, 16:44:04
join the club, i have a 360 that prefers the lights off to.

not that it is a bad thing.... but i found that LED conversions fixed its ass.
whered you get yours from?
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: Erskine on Apr 27, 2011, 16:55:50
HMMMM. This is smart... ill consider it. What kinda resistors would i have to use... i have no clue when it comes to wiring my own lights.... especially LED stuff.

+1
What kind of resistor(s) is/are needed?
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: JRK5892 on Apr 27, 2011, 17:02:06
resisters would depend on the LED you are using... if you do a google search you can find all the info.
the resters i get online come with the LED's you want them to resist 12v and knock it down to what can be hanlded by the LED,
radio shack is a great source or say screw it and get them pre wired with them like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/50-x-WHITE-10mm-MOTORCYCLE-CAR-BIKE-Led-Light-Pre-Wired-/160579389605?pt=US_Flashlights&hash=item25634708a5 (http://cgi.ebay.com/50-x-WHITE-10mm-MOTORCYCLE-CAR-BIKE-Led-Light-Pre-Wired-/160579389605?pt=US_Flashlights&hash=item25634708a5)
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: Blakester122 on Apr 28, 2011, 13:10:34
Read the whole thing front to back. I can't wait to see more it looks great.
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Post by: The Red Wonder on Apr 28, 2011, 13:54:59
If you actually want LED's to put off light you need to do a lot of research. Those ones from eBay will light up your housing but they won't actually throw any light. LEDs like to be supplied with a constant current, so just putting a resistor in line is not a good or proper way to drive them. I am actually doing an LED headlight conversion myself. I am using 3x Seoul P7 LEDs, each of them is capable of putting out 900 lumens. A typical car headlight system is around 1500 lumens on low beams, some HIDs get up over 3000 lumens! 

One of the guys on here used this light, its expensive, but nice and bright and all the work is done for you:

http://www.levineautoparts.com/ledheadlight.html (http://www.levineautoparts.com/ledheadlight.html)
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: JRK5892 on Apr 28, 2011, 14:02:50
i was saying to just do the led to ride in the day, does not need to throw light just needs to light up to be legal and to show up in peoples rear view mirrors.
every LED lamp i have installed in the shop (HD) included blows... however the ones we used on the gold wing build are really nice, but never the less it is still flood style lighting not what i would use for a headlight at all.
I have installed about 8 HD led headlights now... all suck balls if you ask me
i run full HID on my bikes, wiht LED in them for when i am riding in the day
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: B L A K E on Jun 05, 2011, 13:38:46
Hey guys. i have new pics!
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2849.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2848.jpg)
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x138/Ares570/100_2847.jpg)
ENJOY!
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: Ringo on Jun 05, 2011, 13:42:41
Blake man, that seat looks great!  I really like the black buttons as opposed to the chrome ones everyone uses.  Nicely done.  You been putting some miles on her?
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Post by: crazypj on Jun 05, 2011, 14:28:12
The charging system may not be very good on these bikes but it isn't as bad as everyone makes out.
The main problem seems to be everyone with issues has rewired the bike, BADLY, without a basic understanding of how components work and without checking said components for correct operation.
 I'm running my 360 with Suzuki rectifier/regulator (known to be not very good quality), modified generator rotor (turned down slightly so air gap is larger and charging  rate lower) 7 A/hr battery and a couple of led 'bulbs'
 No Issues
I did over a 100 miles yesterday, had a lot of fun, got a bit of criticism for overtaking on the 'wrong' side (hey, I'm British, we drive on the left and pass on the right  ;D )

Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: RGRH on Jun 05, 2011, 17:36:13
SWEET!
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: B L A K E on Jun 05, 2011, 21:51:30
Blake man, that seat looks great!  I really like the black buttons as opposed to the chrome ones everyone uses.  Nicely done.  You been putting some miles on her?

unfortunatly i put about 200 miles on it illegally haha. im still 17. i have no tail light or lisence plate on my bike but i wear all the proper gear and do turnsignals with my hands and stuff... i need to probably stop that before i get busted...
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Post by: scottfish on Jun 05, 2011, 22:11:13
Looks awesome man!
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Post by: B L A K E on Jun 05, 2011, 22:30:41
Looks awesome man!
she still has a little work comin... but i had to throw her on the back burner because i have 3 other projects i havent even started on.
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: Ringo on Jun 05, 2011, 23:43:51
unfortunatly i put about 200 miles on it illegally haha. im still 17. i have no tail light or lisence plate on my bike but i wear all the proper gear and do turnsignals with my hands and stuff... i need to probably stop that before i get busted...

Ah no worries--I've put about 600 on the Gulf, still unregistered, just running a plate from another bike!  I even had a Sheriff follow me for a few miles today, and he didn't give two shits...or didn't run the plate.  Besides, you live out in the sticks, don't you?
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Post by: B L A K E on Jun 06, 2011, 01:11:58
Ah no worries--I've put about 600 on the Gulf, still unregistered, just running a plate from another bike!  I even had a Sheriff follow me for a few miles today, and he didn't give two shits...or didn't run the plate.  Besides, you live out in the sticks, don't you?

Yeah the nearest town is 7 miles and its only a couple thousand people. and the nearest big town is 14 miles away so im safe unless the county comes down my road and thats only about once a month ha. i can see the big shiny white car from 2 miles away from where my house is so i got time even if they are flooring it... to get home.
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Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Oct 07, 2011, 00:07:03
Hey Man,
Glad you riding the crap out of your bike. Quick question, its been a while since I went through your build blog. Did you make your own seat? I want to make one very similar to yours for my cb175
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Post by: B L A K E on Oct 07, 2011, 00:24:17
Hey Man,
Glad you riding the crap out of your bike. Quick question, its been a while since I went through your build blog. Did you make your own seat? I want to make one very similar to yours for my cb175

yep i did. Fiberglass and resin. I formed it with florists foam from Hobby Lobby.
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Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Oct 07, 2011, 00:26:30
Cool. Thanks man. Difficult? Your's came out great.
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Post by: B L A K E on Oct 07, 2011, 14:11:31
No just time consuming if you want it right.
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Post by: cafecustom720 on Nov 28, 2011, 22:13:34
Love how this turned out; the seat and color look great. My only suggestion would be to cut the pipes back to about the heat guard but that's just my opinion. What happened to the CL you picked up?
Title: Re: Blake's cb350 Cafe (Update: APRIL 10th Jetted,exhaust, all hard work done! PICS)
Post by: B L A K E on Nov 28, 2011, 23:02:02
i ended up doing that actually. making straight pipes out of it. It sounds awesome and performance is better. But i think it is only better because of the UNI air filters and the jetting i did with the straight pipes. I am currently ripping the engine apart and redoing everything ....for security...haha btw... this is no longer my only bike... picked up a 2008 sv650sf Dark Gray! Woot woot.
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Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Nov 28, 2011, 23:53:42
Blake, Good luck with your ongoing project. I always find myself looking for something to mess with on the old bikes, they are just to fun to leave alone ;D

p.s Congrats and be careful on your new bike thats a lot more juice between your legs, and much more refined for power, as I am sure you have found out ;)
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Post by: cafecustom720 on Nov 29, 2011, 15:26:24
Awesome on the exhaust! Did you end up leaving the heat shield on it or taking it off?
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Post by: B L A K E on Dec 05, 2011, 00:02:42
Awesome on the exhaust! Did you end up leaving the heat shield on it or taking it off?
i took it off because it hung over the end of where the pipes stopped and im not about to chop a perfect heat shield. Someone might want it.
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Post by: B L A K E on Dec 05, 2011, 00:04:20
Blake, Good luck with your ongoing project. I always find myself looking for something to mess with on the old bikes, they are just to fun to leave alone ;D

p.s Congrats and be careful on your new bike thats a lot more juice between your legs, and much more refined for power, as I am sure you have found out ;)


Capital R on the refined power.. Seriously. You dont even know. I am learning a LOT about my cb350 though. im down into the gearbox now... AMAZING how these are put together any tips guys?
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Post by: cafecustom720 on Dec 05, 2011, 00:25:29
Cool on taking the heat shield off. I'm sure it looks pretty mean like that.
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Post by: B L A K E on Dec 08, 2011, 17:39:28
Cool on taking the heat shield off. I'm sure it looks pretty mean like that.

im actually missing my heatshield it looks good
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Post by: cafecustom720 on Dec 08, 2011, 18:24:39
Can we get a picture of the bike with the new pipe setup?
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Post by: B L A K E on Dec 08, 2011, 18:29:46
Can we get a picture of the bike with the new pipe setup?

its in pieces bro. Im rebuilding the whole thing... because my transmission was funny.
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Post by: cafecustom720 on Dec 09, 2011, 17:22:11
Oh alright. It wouldn't be an old bike if something didn't go funny after it was all together. Best of luck.
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Post by: B L A K E on Dec 09, 2011, 17:30:33
Oh alright. It wouldn't be an old bike if something didn't go funny after it was all together. Best of luck.

yup. Thanks. Hey can anyone help me with the transmission?
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Post by: KenBB on Jul 21, 2014, 16:04:31
Hi Guys,

Ken from BikeBuilds.net (http://www.bikebuilds.net) here.  Very nice CB350.

We were glad to add Blake's (http://www.bikebuilds.net/builders/b-l-a-k-e) beautiful bike to our database: http://www.bikebuilds.net/honda-cb350-cafe-build-by-b-l-a-k-e

Ken