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Blood Sweat Tears and Grease => Projects => Cafe Racers => Topic started by: MrMister on Mar 22, 2011, 07:19:59

Title: 75 CL360 Cafe Build
Post by: MrMister on Mar 22, 2011, 07:19:59
Well im about half way with the project, but a friend of mine suggested i write about it so here i am.

Started off as a $250 ebay doorstop missing the engine. Bent forks, bent shock, dents (and wasps) in the frame with a lot of mud and rocks too. Right now its in a million pieces in a million places.

Ive gotten rid of the old rusted seat, and decided to go with a fiberglass seat from Airtech.
The speedometers mile counter was completely melted and distorted, so im looking for a good replacement.

Bought a fairly good K2 tank with rubber knee grips on ebay because i like the look more.
Took the frame, tank and seat to get sprayed a few days ago, cant wait to see it.

Bent the forks straight and got new seals. Finally got around to pulling the wiring out of the handlebars. The bent and welded handlebars that melted the wiring when the idiots welded the extra brace to the bar :p

Will post more.
Title: Frame
Post by: MrMister on Mar 22, 2011, 07:57:48
Stripped it and sprayed it with an epoxy enamel. About a week later i strippped it again because it chipped and scratched very easily. Getting it powder coated now.
Title: Tank and Seat
Post by: MrMister on Mar 22, 2011, 08:12:34
This is after i stripped the frame down again. Also had to make mounts for the fiberglass seat. Used flat and 90 degree aluminum strips from the hardware store to make it fit.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: jeffreyhardy on Mar 22, 2011, 13:56:01
we're at the same stage right now. How much did they quote to powdercoat the frame?
Title: Frame
Post by: MrMister on Mar 22, 2011, 21:39:55
we're at the same stage right now. How much did they quote to powdercoat the frame?

Luckily i know the owner of the place, so the frame plus the tank and seat and little bits are about $500
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: TFWG on Mar 22, 2011, 21:44:51
Looks like we have the same tank and seat combo. Nice choice! Are you going to upholster the seat? What color scheme are you going for on the tank and seat?
Title: upholstery
Post by: MrMister on Mar 22, 2011, 23:06:06
Looks like we have the same tank and seat combo. Nice choice! Are you going to upholster the seat? What color scheme are you going for on the tank and seat?

Cool, yeah not sure what colour to make the upholstery yet, probably just black. Making the frame metalic blue and the tank and seat silver with metalic blue. something like this...
Hows the side exhaust system working for you? Ive been thinking about that as an option. Does it get hot by your leg on longer trips? Also, which rearsets did you go for?
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: BarnBurner on Mar 22, 2011, 23:09:09
This project looks promising! What color are you powdercoating the frame? Black is always a safe choice but there's a lot of nice 350s out there with lighter colored frames that really pop. I agree that the earlier tanks have better lines. I've got a 71 CL350 I'm about to start working on, and it's got a rusted tank. I'll probably clean it up a but I'm tempted to just get a new tank. 
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: BarnBurner on Mar 22, 2011, 23:09:59
Just saw your update. The blue/silver combo should look sweeeet  8)
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Mar 22, 2011, 23:47:20
Just saw your update. The blue/silver combo should look sweeeet  8)

Thanks, i hope so  ;D
How do you find the side pipes? Do you burn your leg now and then?
Title: Engine
Post by: MrMister on Mar 22, 2011, 23:58:26
I bought an engine a couple of months ago, and finally got around to working on it a few days ago. The kick start would only sometimes turn over, so i knew there had to be something broken in there. Pulled it apart and found a few pieces of the bottom engine casing is buggered. Turns out it must have heppened before. The kickstart recoil was loose and destroying everything in its path. Whoever worked on it before just used a bolt to attach it to the engine case again and when it came loose (again) it broke a few pieces in there causing them to get jammed in the gears. Top it all off, because the kickstart was no longer attached to the recoil spring it just went around in circles breaking the side cover, so (whoever) just patched it up with steel epoxy or something.
So had to get a new bottom half engine case, and kickstart recoil spring.
Title: Engine 2
Post by: MrMister on Mar 22, 2011, 23:59:53
New engine case and recoil spring  ;D
Title: Engine
Post by: MrMister on Mar 23, 2011, 00:07:30
Looks like the entire top end was rebuilt not too long ago. Pistons and valves look practically brand new. Couple of rings broken on the pistons, thats about it.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: TFWG on Mar 23, 2011, 01:27:33
That will look awesome! I don't even notice the pipes getting hot at all with the shield on. I am actually removing the high pipes and putting on a custom system that goes under the engine. I want to leave the midsection open, so the high pipes must go! I got the universal rear sets from Fast from the Past.


Looking forward to watching this thread! Have fun!
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: jeffreyhardy on Mar 23, 2011, 03:46:52

Thanks, i hope so  ;D
How do you find the side pipes? Do you burn your leg now and then?


I have a set of the side pipes I can sell you for cheap  Just pulled them off my CL350 which is the model they came on. They are in GREAT condition!
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Mar 23, 2011, 10:13:30

I have a set of the side pipes I can sell you for cheap  Just pulled them off my CL350 which is the model they came on. They are in GREAT condition!

Thanks really appreciate it, but the shipping to australia would probably twice as much as the price. I saw this one pick of custom 2 into 1 pipes that look really good. So i was thinking of trying something like that later on. But i think ill just get some short down facing headers or something for now. Luckily dont have to worry about mufflers over here on bikes before 1974 i think.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Mar 23, 2011, 10:17:30
That will look awesome! I don't even notice the pipes getting hot at all with the shield on. I am actually removing the high pipes and putting on a custom system that goes under the engine. I want to leave the midsection open, so the high pipes must go! I got the universal rear sets from Fast from the Past.


Looking forward to watching this thread! Have fun!

Cool thanks, i checked out your blog site too. Quite a bit done already. Yeah if i do end up going with the side pipes ill either have them without the mufflers and just heat wrap them, or do a 2 into one custom, but im not sure where ill start with trying to set that up over here.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: BarnBurner on Mar 23, 2011, 12:05:07
I thankfully haven't burned my leg yet. I'm missing the heat shield for the pipes so I could see it happening, though. I'm considering wrapping them if I can't find the part.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: TFWG on Mar 23, 2011, 14:09:31
I tried the stock 2 into 2 headers without mufflers and they are ungodly loud. I was afraid I was going to lose my hearing so I shut the engine off in a hurry. There is a difference between sounding 'cool' and just freakin loud.  ;D
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Mar 24, 2011, 02:21:31
I tried the stock 2 into 2 headers without mufflers and they are ungodly loud. I was afraid I was going to lose my hearing so I shut the engine off in a hurry. There is a difference between sounding 'cool' and just freakin loud.  ;D

Haha, True, also not a good idea to attract too much attention either. Get pulled over for noise pollution then get fined for missing the chain guard or whatever  :o  All important points to consider.
Have to thank you too. When i had a look at your blog i saw how nice your forks came out with just the polish, so i went and got some yesterday to shine up the wheels and forks and they came out brilliantly.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: TFWG on Mar 24, 2011, 03:29:43
Yeah my bike has some questionable aspects to it when it comes to legality. It doesn't have turn signals, a horn, high beam, or a front brake switch. The turn signal thing is actually legal here in CA for bikes manufactured before 1973, so I'm good there, but the others are things you wouldn't know without doing a full safety check. Not too worried about it... :)

That's great you liked the polish! It worked wonders for my alternator cover, my wheel hubs, and my forks. I'm still debating polishing the rest of my engine, but for now I'm leaving it. It's actually kind of sad the whole bike is at the painter's and there's nothing to work on anymore...
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Mar 24, 2011, 09:10:59
Yeah my bike has some questionable aspects to it when it comes to legality. It doesn't have turn signals, a horn, high beam, or a front brake switch. The turn signal thing is actually legal here in CA for bikes manufactured before 1973, so I'm good there, but the others are things you wouldn't know without doing a full safety check. Not too worried about it... :)

That's great you liked the polish! It worked wonders for my alternator cover, my wheel hubs, and my forks. I'm still debating polishing the rest of my engine, but for now I'm leaving it. It's actually kind of sad the whole bike is at the painter's and there's nothing to work on anymore...

Yeah same here, thats why im bored enough to polish everything  :P . I tried a little trick today that a fellow enthusiast told me about, and seemed to work pretty well. Since my engine is completely apart, i took some oven cleaner to get inbetween the fins, then put all the top end pieces in the dishwasher, then hit it with some wd40 afterwards. Came out pretty good. But seriously, oven cleaner works a million times better than those high priced engine degreasers.
Also went to the place that im having it painting at today, and he said they wouldnt be able to powdercoat with the colour i want, but they can do a high grade paint. Oh well, itll have to do.

What colour scheme did you go for?
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Mar 24, 2011, 10:34:01
Anyone know where i can find some decent rearsets that wont cost 1/3 of the bike?
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: HerrDeacon on Mar 24, 2011, 12:31:42
Anyone know where i can find some decent rearsets that wont cost 1/3 of the bike?
http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=22119.msg255182 (http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=22119.msg255182)
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: smithk4 on Mar 24, 2011, 12:50:18
Dime City Cycles has some great universal rear-sets with a universal linkage set. Aluminum and one bolt to secure them - what more do you need. I just got mine last week and mocked em up on the bike over the weekend...worked great.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: TFWG on Mar 24, 2011, 15:48:19
Thanks for the oven cleaner tip! I'll definitely try that out! I had my engine cases glass bead blasted and I put them in the dishwasher with, let's say, interesting results. I guess the freshly blasted aluminum doesn't take kindly to dishwashers...

I think I'm going with red on the top and silver on the bottom. I've been having the darndest time figuring out the color scheme. But I think I've now decided on it.

I saw in your earlier post that your fork tubes were bent. I have a straight set I'm willing to let go. There is some rust on the top part of both tubes, but the rust doesn't interfere with the fork seal.

If you want new fork tubes, I strongly recommend Frank's Forks.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Mar 24, 2011, 21:48:13
Thanks for the oven cleaner tip! I'll definitely try that out! I had my engine cases glass bead blasted and I put them in the dishwasher with, let's say, interesting results. I guess the freshly blasted aluminum doesn't take kindly to dishwashers...

I think I'm going with red on the top and silver on the bottom. I've been having the darndest time figuring out the color scheme. But I think I've now decided on it.

I saw in your earlier post that your fork tubes were bent. I have a straight set I'm willing to let go. There is some rust on the top part of both tubes, but the rust doesn't interfere with the fork seal.

If you want new fork tubes, I strongly recommend Frank's Forks.

Whoops, yeah i think it would be better to clean it before you blast it.
Oh cool, Thats the paint scheme i origionally wanted.
Thanks, but the guy i bought my engine from has a very good workshop so i had the forks straightened by him with one of those spinning machines. Perfect now.
This more or less the paint scheme youre doing?
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Mar 24, 2011, 21:50:43
Id like to know where that guy found those tank knee grips. Theyre definitely not stock, and its impossible to find cheap knockoffs.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: VonYinzer on Mar 24, 2011, 21:57:10
They are stock... Just not for a 350. Theyre for a cl160/175.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-CL160-Gas-Tank-Knee-Pads-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem25625b041bQQitemZ160563921947QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-CL160-Gas-Tank-Knee-Pads-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem25625b041bQQitemZ160563921947QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)
Title: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: TFWG on Mar 24, 2011, 22:01:32
haha yes that is exactly the paint scheme I'm going for. I actually modeled most of my bike after that bike. Rick and his kids did a pretty amazing job with the build. I looked for hours and did dozens of mockups for different paint schemes but I liked the red and silver the most. Mine should be ready in about six weeks I hope.

Are you modeling your bike after the red and silver one as well?
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Mar 24, 2011, 22:10:33
They are stock... Just not for a 350. Theyre for a cl160/175.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-CL160-Gas-Tank-Knee-Pads-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem25625b041bQQitemZ160563921947QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-CL160-Gas-Tank-Knee-Pads-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem25625b041bQQitemZ160563921947QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)

Oh ok, do you know if they fit 350 tanks? Or is that a 160/175 tank aswell?
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: VonYinzer on Mar 24, 2011, 22:12:27
Thats an early 350 tank, and Id bet that theyre just glued/epoxied on. The 350 tanks dont have the mounts for knee pads.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Mar 24, 2011, 22:17:23
haha yes that is exactly the paint scheme I'm going for. I actually modeled most of my bike after that bike. Rick and his kids did a pretty amazing job with the build. I looked for hours and did dozens of mockups for different paint schemes but I liked the red and silver the most. Mine should be ready in about six weeks I hope.

Are you modeling your bike after the red and silver one as well?

Nice, You know them? Yeah thats deffinitely my favourite all around CB350, but im going with the blue silver scheme like the ducati i posted earlier. Youre lucky you only have to wait 6 weeks. The place im having it done at has bike parts from other guys that have been there a month already and havent even been touched yet  :-\
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Mar 24, 2011, 22:20:31
Thats an early 350 tank, and Id bet that theyre just glued/epoxied on. The 350 tanks dont have the mounts for knee pads.

Some did. I think only some of the 69 models though. The tank i bought is exactly this one, and i took the rubbers off and it has mounts.
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-HONDA-CB350-CB-350-GAS-TANK-/150578833490?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item230f32a852 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-HONDA-CB350-CB-350-GAS-TANK-/150578833490?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item230f32a852)
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: VonYinzer on Mar 24, 2011, 22:22:10
Oh ya. I always forget about those years.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: TFWG on Mar 24, 2011, 23:25:06
I traded a few emails with Rick about his bike and the guy that reconditioned their head did a valve job for me and told me all about the project. Really neat stuff. It's been a really fun build so far. Kind of sad it's almost over, but it'll be really cool to show it off when it's done. The blue and silver should look sweet!
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: mspringer on Mar 24, 2011, 23:55:35
Anyone know where i can find some decent rearsets that wont cost 1/3 of the bike?
Check out Durgam-K on this site, his rearsets are pretty sweet.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Mar 25, 2011, 09:10:06
I traded a few emails with Rick about his bike and the guy that reconditioned their head did a valve job for me and told me all about the project. Really neat stuff. It's been a really fun build so far. Kind of sad it's almost over, but it'll be really cool to show it off when it's done. The blue and silver should look sweet!

Oh nice. Yeah im already planning my next project in my mind haha. Gets addictive.
Are cafe racers pretty big around LA?
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Mar 25, 2011, 09:10:37
Check out Durgam-K on this site, his rearsets are pretty sweet.

Thanks, will deffinitely check it out.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: klx678 on Mar 25, 2011, 09:21:19

Whoops, yeah i think it would be better to clean it before you blast it.
Oh cool, Thats the paint scheme i origionally wanted.
Thanks, but the guy i bought my engine from has a very good workshop so i had the forks straightened by him with one of those spinning machines. Perfect now.
This more or less the paint scheme youre doing?

That 350 is a cafe that is right in my view.  Has a really nice long lean look, especially with those pipes.  Great work, looks are attention getting with the continuation of the stock theme. 
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: TFWG on Mar 25, 2011, 13:33:33
That's pretty funny. I already have my next project in mind as well. I'd like to do a 60's Honda Grand Prix bike, kinda like the 1961 RC162.

There's a pretty big Vintage club here in Venice, CA, so I might try and get into that when it's all done. Otherwise, you see mostly brand new Ducatis racing up the canyon roads.


(http://vf750fd.com/Joep_Kortekaas/honda_race_history/rc162.jpg)
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: CBdublin on Mar 27, 2011, 00:02:11
nothing like pushing 100mph on a tire 3 inches wide  :D
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Mar 29, 2011, 00:58:39
That's pretty funny. I already have my next project in mind as well. I'd like to do a 60's Honda Grand Prix bike, kinda like the 1961 RC162.

There's a pretty big Vintage club here in Venice, CA, so I might try and get into that when it's all done. Otherwise, you see mostly brand new Ducatis racing up the canyon roads.


Looks pretty cool. I just came across a race bike Honda made in the early 60s called the 250 6 (rc166) and 350 6 (rc174). Honda made 250 fourstroke 6 cylinder racebikes and later bored the same engines up to 300 for the 350 class. Theres a few videos on youtube and they sound absolutely insane.
 
Very bored waiting for the bike to get back from getting painted. Waiting for the gaskets and oils seals to arrive in the mail before overhauling the engine. Bored bored bored...
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Mar 29, 2011, 01:05:30
nothing like pushing 100mph on a tire 3 inches wide  :D

Very true. My previous bike was a 89 Yamaha FZR250R, they pretty much have the same width as the CB's just a smaller diameter i think. Redlining at 18,500 screaming at 160kph. Was fun untill it got a top end knock doing 150. So i decided to stick with low revving from now on  :P
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Apr 10, 2011, 10:35:32
nothing like pushing 100mph on a tire 3 inches wide  :D

Speaking of which. What size tyre is everyone running? Whats the best for performance/handling?
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: CBdublin on Apr 10, 2011, 11:42:38
well i recently bumped up to a rear 120/90-18 and front 90/90-18. love the extra stability but feel like the larger rear keeps me a bit upright if you will. I would prefer now to have a 110/90-18 on the back.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Apr 21, 2011, 08:14:38
I recieved the frame back from getting painted and it looks really good. Still waiting for the tank, seat and other bits to get done. In the meantime ive been working on the engine, and had quite a bit of work that needed to be done.The valve seats where in very bad shape so i got them reseated. Cleaned the entire engine. Got new piston rings, ordered new gaskets, oil seals and some new stainless bolts that have yet to arrive. I took advantage while the engine is apart and painted the head black with high temp paint. Also found out that the vlave inlets have been ported and polished at some point, so thats a nice bonus  ;D
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on May 05, 2011, 04:28:26
Put the engine back together this week with the aid of another enthusiast to help with the timing and torquing the bolts correctly. And i must say it came out better than expected.  ;D  Had a bit of trouble with the kickstart mechanism as it prevented the engine from turning backwards, and after re-openning the bottom half of the engine case found that the little metal bracket that comes on after the springs was bent open preventing the kickstart gear from disengageing.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: Big Rich on May 05, 2011, 04:36:21
I'm just catching this build Mr. I like that color blue, but it can be tough to pull it off on the frame. So I wanna see you do it!


As far as the tires go, you will be limited by the width of the wheels. Avon's are a really good choice but here's a little chart to point you in the right direction for sizes: http://www.dropbears.com/u/utilities/tyrerim.htm (http://www.dropbears.com/u/utilities/tyrerim.htm)
Title: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: TFWG on May 05, 2011, 10:39:23
Same damn thing happened to me with the kickstart. I had it installed turned 180 degrees so it would never disengage. 'Twas frustrating since I found out after the engine was already in the frame. The good thing is that you can access the kickstart without disassembling the head. Saved a bunch of time.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on May 06, 2011, 01:58:51
Thanks for the info, appreciate it. I actually asked for a slightly lighter color blue, but i think this would work alright too. Im getting everything besides the tank back tonight, so looking forward to start putting some of it together.
 
 
 
I'm just catching this build Mr. I like that color blue, but it can be tough to pull it off on the frame. So I wanna see you do it!


As far as the tires go, you will be limited by the width of the wheels. Avon's are a really good choice but here's a little chart to point you in the right direction for sizes: http://www.dropbears.com/u/utilities/tyrerim.htm (http://www.dropbears.com/u/utilities/tyrerim.htm)
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on May 06, 2011, 02:05:45
Seems to be a problem area then. Hows your paint work coming along? Im getting all the little bits back tonight, and finalizing the stripes on the seat. And the tank is still getting repaired. So hopefully wont be too long before i get everything back for assembly. Are you kepping the origional wiring harness?
 
 
Same damn thing happened to me with the kickstart. I had it installed turned 180 degrees so it would never disengage. 'Twas frustrating since I found out after the engine was already in the frame. The good thing is that you can access the kickstart without disassembling the head. Saved a bunch of time.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: TFWG on May 06, 2011, 14:18:57
The paint is going pretty slow at this point. The painter was pretty backlogged and is just starting it now. Latest reports point to being totally done in about two weeks. I can't wait to get it back. I'll post tons of pics when it's back.


I replaced the coils and the condenser, got a modern solid state rectifier and made my own wiring harness. I took a lot of the electrics off like the electric starter and the turn signals, so I didn't need a lot of the original harness. My wiring is really simplified, and it still turned out relatively complicated. I'm happy with how it turned out though. I like the simplicity of it. If something goes wrong, I can pretty much fix it right away which is awesome.


Are you painting the seat yourself?
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on May 15, 2011, 08:24:58
Yeah im planning on doing my own harness aswell. I had the seat painted as well, he asked me to come by to confirm the stripe. I got it (and a bunch of other bits) back today, so really excited  ;D  Will post pics
 
The paint is going pretty slow at this point. The painter was pretty backlogged and is just starting it now. Latest reports point to being totally done in about two weeks. I can't wait to get it back. I'll post tons of pics when it's back.


I replaced the coils and the condenser, got a modern solid state rectifier and made my own wiring harness. I took a lot of the electrics off like the electric starter and the turn signals, so I didn't need a lot of the original harness. My wiring is really simplified, and it still turned out relatively complicated. I'm happy with how it turned out though. I like the simplicity of it. If something goes wrong, I can pretty much fix it right away which is awesome.


Are you painting the seat yourself?
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on May 17, 2011, 23:56:14
So last minute i decided against the silver and went with a pearl white, and i think it was a good decision. Still just waiting for the tank and fork covers.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on May 18, 2011, 00:21:07
In the meantime ive been working on upholstering my seat. First i grinded the edges off the seat for the look i want. I used a steel grade epoxy to keep the flange nuts in place. I decided the nuts would be better on the top part rather than the bolts because it would be easier to get the vinyl wrapped underneath. Ive already covered the seat with polyurethane foam, and just waiting for the glue to dry.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: Ringo on May 18, 2011, 00:53:58
Mr, your paint scheme is rad.  That blue frame is absofuggenlutely KILLER.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: HerrDeacon on May 18, 2011, 06:38:12
The blue and white is just like my Gladius :) , the blue is awesome. Is it rattle can? If so, what colour? I may need some for a project I'm working on for the Gladius and it looks like a good match.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on May 18, 2011, 10:01:13
Thanks, I like the GT40 scheme you've got going. I was actually thinking about those colours as an option.
 
Mr, your paint scheme is rad.  That blue frame is absofuggenlutely KILLER.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on May 18, 2011, 10:06:44
Thanks. No i had it painted. I tried rattle canning it myself, but the paint just chipped too easily, even with epoxy enamel. Funny, i actually asked for a lighter blue, but i like this more  ;D
 
The blue and white is just like my Gladius :) , the blue is awesome. Is it rattle can? If so, what colour? I may need some for a project I'm working on for the Gladius and it looks like a good match.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on May 19, 2011, 04:45:31
Worked all day on stitching up the upholstery making it fit right, and gluing it on. Think it came out alright considering its my first one.  :P
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: jeffreyhardy on May 20, 2011, 02:22:54
I didn't see in the forum, but is this a roccity seat?
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on May 21, 2011, 04:45:58
Nope, from Airtech. Your bike's coming along nicely too i see  :)
 
 
I didn't see in the forum, but is this a roccity seat?
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on May 21, 2011, 12:17:00
So i spent most of today working on the clip ons, drilling the holes and pulling the wires through, then got a call saying my tank is done, so went and picked it up. Got home, put it on the bike, and realized the clip on's bolts hit the tank  :-\  So just bought some new ones on ebay which seem like they shouldnt be a problem... All part of the build i guess. ;D
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: benarmour on May 21, 2011, 14:23:32
That's looking great Mister! Really love that blue colour, it's gorgeous! :D
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: HK_Sailor on May 22, 2011, 08:38:03
Love the colors dude! Real shame about the clip ons...
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: TheChild on May 22, 2011, 14:12:14
What forks covers are those???
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on May 23, 2011, 04:30:14
Theyre just standard cb350. I have the standard headlight ears aswell, but they wont work if i want clip ons.
 
What forks covers are those???
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: TFWG on May 24, 2011, 15:04:25
Really great looking bike! I like how the blue will outline the kneepads.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on May 24, 2011, 22:43:37
Thanks, Hows your paint coming along? Gotten anything back yet?
 
 
Really great looking bike! I like how the blue will outline the kneepads.
Title: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: TFWG on May 25, 2011, 01:31:26
I talked to the painter about a week and a half ago and he said it would be ready last weekend. He never called me and I tried calling and emailing him but his answering machine is full and he's not responding to emails. The paint should be pretty much done now so I might just surprise him and stop by his shop so I can friggin get a hold of him. I'm really getting irritated because it's been like three months now. Hopefully I can pick up the bike this week though.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on May 26, 2011, 23:13:15
Seems like its an international thing then. Must be all the paint fumes  :P
 
I talked to the painter about a week and a half ago and he said it would be ready last weekend. He never called me and I tried calling and emailing him but his answering machine is full and he's not responding to emails. The paint should be pretty much done now so I might just surprise him and stop by his shop so I can friggin get a hold of him. I'm really getting irritated because it's been like three months now. Hopefully I can pick up the bike this week though.
Title: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: TFWG on May 31, 2011, 03:10:43
The paint is basically done now. Just waiting on the final details to be done. Hopefully I should have it back within two weeks. Can't wait to start riding again!
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: jeffreyhardy on May 31, 2011, 04:22:23
I think you may need to put on the leather jacket and kick some painter ass! lol. Seriously though can't wait to see the results. Some things are worth the wait you know
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Jun 04, 2011, 23:09:39
Been a bit busy so i havent posted anything new in awhile. I got the new clip ons about a week ago and installed them. I was weighing up whether i should get a headlight with built in speedo/tacho or play around with what ive got. I still need a small speedometer that ill have to make a bracket for. But in the meantime i made a bracket for the stock rev counter and it came out better than i thought it would  ;D
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Jun 04, 2011, 23:17:09
Also got some new fuel lines. Found out the carburetors i got were different from eachother, 722 and 725 i think, so went back to the guy i got them from and he gladly exchanged the one. Hooked up the battery and found out the starter on the right hand control unit is busted, so i opened it up and saw someone rebuilt the thing at some point with makeshift items, so ill have to look for a new unit this coming week. Also bought a new clutch  cable, and might need a new front brake cable. Does anyone know if there are shorter front brake cables that would fit a cb350? It just looks really long installed with the clip ons.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: Tim on Jun 04, 2011, 23:49:49
Sorry I've missed out on the first few weeks of this thread!  Looks awesome.  Gotta go back and read the earlier posts.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: stript.714 o/c on Jun 05, 2011, 01:37:45
Man what a restoration. from scrap metal to a nice little bike god job brother
Title: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: Grahamworks on Jun 05, 2011, 02:04:56
In this thread, it seems like this bike got really pretty, really fast. kudos on a nice ride, man.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Jun 07, 2011, 11:50:29
Thanks for all the nice words guys. Still need rearsets that im waiting on, and a couple other minors to get her up and running. Shouldnt be long now  ;D  Ran into a spot of trouble with the starter button and tried fixing it, but like so many things on this bike, its been "fixed" before by the previous owner, so might ask my source what he'll charge for a right control unit. Oh, and had a nice surprise yesterday morning... The brake light i bought off ebay (3 months ago) arrived.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: HK_Sailor on Jun 07, 2011, 12:31:16
Really really digging this white n blue scheme you've got going!
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Jun 15, 2011, 06:50:38
Started up the bike for the first time this evening. Got a bit teary eyed, theres something about bringing a dead bike back to life. Deffinitely one of the most beautiful sounds ive ever heard. ;D
Also ordered a mini speedo from mikes xs that arrived today, so ill install that soon, along with a new speedometer cable and brake cable. Its all coming together.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Jun 19, 2011, 12:44:56
Finally got some time to do a bit of work on the bike. Made a bracket for the rear fender, aswell as cutting the fender in half. Also made a bracket for the brake light and indicators. Mounted the mini speedo aswell which came out great. Still waiting for the new speedo cable and front brake cable. Then all thats left is the rearsets and mufflers if i chose to put them on. Sounds wicked without them  :o
 
cb350 cafe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqFjdVq22Dg#)
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Jun 19, 2011, 12:47:56
pics of whats been done
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: CBdublin on Jun 19, 2011, 12:57:15
this thing turned out great man. really dig the rear set up you made. bike sounds good too. i rode for maybe 2 weeks without mufflers because i liked the look so much but eventually gave in and made some baffles for them. your ears and neighbors will thank you  ;)   again great job.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: wfo guy on Jun 19, 2011, 13:26:17
Nice job. Did the painter have any stories when you got your parts? I always wonder if it's booking more work than you can do or lack of interest in some projects.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Jun 19, 2011, 23:01:20
Thanks, really appreciate it  ;D . Yeah attracting the wrong kind of attention isnt good either. Ive got a 'look' ive got in mind. Ill either make my own or modify a pair similar to what i want.
 
this thing turned out great man. really dig the rear set up you made. bike sounds good too. i rode for maybe 2 weeks without mufflers because i liked the look so much but eventually gave in and made some baffles for them. your ears and neighbors will thank you  ;)   again great job.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Jun 19, 2011, 23:06:24
No stories. Just small town attitude i guess so they can take their time. Could also be because the guy is a family friend so youre not really a priority.
 
Nice job. Did the painter have any stories when you got your parts? I always wonder if it's booking more work than you can do or lack of interest in some projects.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Jul 19, 2011, 11:15:29
Footpegs/rearsets arrived today. Big update in the next few days  ;D
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Jul 24, 2011, 07:45:29
Got the rearsets on. They look awesome. The kickstart doesnt miss them though, so i might have to get a cb360 kickstart as i heard that will work fine with these particular ones.
Ran into some "technical issues" with the wiring. One of the wires inside the headlight was shorting and melted through the insulation tape all the way to the ignition switch, so i had to pull everything off. Replaced the burnt wire and after putting the harness back on and plugging all the wires back, there seems to be a spare wire (female) wich doesnt have a wire to go with it. Topped off with a non working brake light which may be the culprit of the lone wire, but i have a hunch the problem lies at the ignition switch. Fun times await me  :)
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Jul 27, 2011, 00:48:11
Got the wiring all sorted. I took the bike out for a spin last night for the first time, and it runs perfect  ;D  Big smiles. After 10 months of work, all thats left is extending the mufflers so the rearsets miss them. And of course registering it.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Jul 27, 2011, 00:50:13
Photos
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: Juggernaut on Jul 27, 2011, 01:01:44
The bike looks great! How is the sound with those mufflers? I want to get a few but am afraid they will be ear bleedingly loud.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: kelvis on Jul 27, 2011, 01:22:25
Bike is looking great! Been following the build for a little while now, love the colours.

Not sure if you've had a look at yours, but I have one of those mufflers on my Honda postie bike and when I pulled out the removeable baffle, I found there was hardly any fibreglass packing around it (literally one, tiny scrap with some wire wound around it!). I bought some from my local auto muffler place, packed it in tight and it sounds heaps better! Much deeper but without the sharpness to it.

Well done again on the bike.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Jul 27, 2011, 07:14:09
Thanks for the compliment  :D . I just slipped them on for the photo. I got a couple extention pipes from the exhaust shop and had them bent 30 degrees. I havent clamped the mufflers on properly yet, but Ive started it with them just fitting loosly and its a lot quieter with the extended pipes. Ill put a video on as soon as theyre clamped on.
 
The bike looks great! How is the sound with those mufflers? I want to get a few but am afraid they will be ear bleedingly loud.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Jul 27, 2011, 07:20:18
Thanks for the nice words and advice. I havent pulled the baffles out, but ill deffinitely play around with it at some point. Like i said to juggernaut, theyre much quieter with the extended header pipes i slipped on. Ill deffinitely take a look at your page  :)
 
Bike is looking great! Been following the build for a little while now, love the colours.

Not sure if you've had a look at yours, but I have one of those mufflers on my Honda postie bike and when I pulled out the removeable baffle, I found there was hardly any fibreglass packing around it (literally one, tiny scrap with some wire wound around it!). I bought some from my local auto muffler place, packed it in tight and it sounds heaps better! Much deeper but without the sharpness to it.

Well done again on the bike.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Jul 28, 2011, 00:23:03
Heres some pics of the extended pipes. I plan on welding a few nuts on the inside and bolt it on rather than use clamps. Have to find a chroming place for the new pipes too.  :)
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: retrobetsy on Jul 28, 2011, 02:24:02
Looking goood. Start to finish=night and day with this one.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: minidriver8 on Jul 28, 2011, 11:28:56
love it, great work  (just for your info, i'm stealing your "plate/brake light/indicator bracket assembly design") just thought you should know  ;)
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: stik70 on Jul 28, 2011, 11:29:07
What a cool bike!!
kev
 
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Jul 28, 2011, 11:56:16
Haha, go for it. Thats why we post on here right?  ;D
 
love it, great work  (just for your info, i'm stealing your "plate/brake light/indicator bracket assembly design") just thought you should know  ;)
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Jul 28, 2011, 12:00:29
Thanks for the compliments guys. Nearly done. All thats left is welding nuts on the inside of the pipes, making a couple of braces, and chroming the extentions.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: kelvis on Jul 29, 2011, 04:38:35
Loving the new pipe extensions, gives them a nice sweep!
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Jul 30, 2011, 09:53:58
CB350 ride (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djDXNneeHyg#)
 
Such a good feeling finally riding the bike after hundreds of hours. Pipes are only bolted on still. Havent sealed them yet, but i imagine they would sound a bit different once they are. Ill open the baffles at some point too and see what i can do.  ;D
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Aug 11, 2011, 06:51:56
Its all legal  ;D  Bike is up and running on the road. Had a great cruise this afternoon and ran out of gas. I was a bit worried for a second because it ran out as i was testing the top speed. Still a bit of fine tuning needed with the carbs/jets.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: kelvis on Aug 11, 2011, 07:47:12
Mate...looking good! Sounds pretty nice too.

Must be a nice feeling getting it up and running, just in time for the good weather too!
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Aug 13, 2011, 23:49:01
Thanks. The best feeling is looking back on where it started and seeing how it turned out  ;D  Some new points ordered and on their way, and just a bit of fine tuning left.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Aug 13, 2011, 23:51:10
Pics
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: DrJ on Aug 14, 2011, 00:54:48
Love the sound of that motor with a pair of decent mufflers.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: borzwazie on Aug 14, 2011, 16:23:19
very nice. simple, clean work.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Aug 15, 2011, 20:58:56
Thanks  :)
 
very nice. simple, clean work.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: kelvis on Aug 15, 2011, 21:10:01
Its all legal  ;D  Bike is up and running on the road. Had a great cruise this afternoon and ran out of gas. I was a bit worried for a second because it ran out as i was testing the top speed. Still a bit of fine tuning needed with the carbs/jets.

Did you have to get it inspected to register it again? Just a bit curious as I'll have to do the same with mine once it's done and wondering if you had any hassles?
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Aug 16, 2011, 03:10:00
I think it depends on which state youre in. I called an engineer that was on the rta's list of approved people for inspection, and he said because of my bikes age, he doesnt think it would be necessary because pre 74 there wasnt specific standards. So i just went straight to the blue slip place, and they didnt have any hassles or questions about it. They did mark that it was standard on the form though, so i dont know if there might be a problem if someone actually looked into it.
 
 
Did you have to get it inspected to register it again? Just a bit curious as I'll have to do the same with mine once it's done and wondering if you had any hassles?
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: kelvis on Aug 16, 2011, 03:24:05
I think it depends on which state youre in. I called an engineer that was on the rta's list of approved people for inspection, and he said because of my bikes age, he doesnt think it would be necessary because pre 74 there wasnt specific standards. So i just went straight to the blue slip place, and they didnt have any hassles or questions about it. They did mark that it was standard on the form though, so i dont know if there might be a problem if someone actually looked into it.

I think essentially the standards are the same from state to state with just a few variances here and there. I have the Light Vehicle Inspection Manual with all the guidelines to abide by. I am going to have to cut the frame down so I think I will have to have it engineer certified. I might just try and get away with it and see what happens! Glad to hear they seem a bit more relaxed with older motorcycles though.
Title: 1975 CL360
Post by: MrMister on Mar 06, 2016, 04:22:32
Been a long time since i've had a project. But it's time to post the next big build. Some major changes since the last post, are... I moved to Los Angeles. I bought a basket case cl360 that was in a million pieces a couple Months ago. And its finally starting to get worked on.
Title: cl360 Big project
Post by: MrMister on Mar 06, 2016, 04:40:53
Engine work first. Over the past 3 Months, I've been slowly getting bits and pieces together from ebay and craigslist before starting the big work stuff.
Had to order the special oil filter nut (which was cheaper on amazon than ebay for a change) and took the whole engine apart to get sand blasted, where is it now.
So while im waiting for the sand blasting work to get done, i've been polishing the parts i don't plan on painting.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: DrJ on Mar 06, 2016, 10:41:03
How does working on the 360 compare to the 350?
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Mar 06, 2016, 14:33:41
Very similar. The engine seems more simplified somehow. For instance, you can easily remove the oil separators (#2) in the bottom of the 360. Its actually removable, compared to the 350 which requires grinding drilling and tapping if you want to remove it.
I kind of prefer the look of the frame of the 360 for a cafe as well, because its all tubular frame, and isn't "broken up" with pressed metal, (like the tail section) However, i do like the look of the 350 engine more, with the cooling fins all over the covers.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: JDubs on Mar 06, 2016, 15:51:45

This is a masterpiece. Well done. What kind of tires are those on your blue and white previous build?
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Cafe Project
Post by: MrMister on Mar 07, 2016, 02:40:38
Thanks.
They were Bridgestones that were on the bike when i bought it. I was planning on getting new rubber, but i sold it and moved to the States before i could.

This is a masterpiece. Well done. What kind of tires are those on your blue and white previous build?
Title: Re: 75 CL360 Cafe Build
Post by: MrMister on Mar 09, 2016, 01:27:31
More cleaning before polishing. I use an abrasive wheel 150 grit to clean first, and light 400 grit wet/dry sandpaper, then a firm buffing pad on an angle grinder with hard metal polish.
Title: Re: 75 CL360 Cafe Build
Post by: MrMister on Mar 18, 2016, 02:52:45
Got the Engine back from getting Bead blasted, and it looks way better than my last bike's sand blasted.
Also had a few hours today to spend painting some parts.
Title: Re: 75 CL360 Cafe Build
Post by: MrMister on Aug 07, 2017, 19:45:23
Been awhile since i posted, but I've done a lot over the past 6 months.
Including tail hoop, self made Carbon fiber seat, and sand blasted. As of right now, its all getting painted.
Title: Re: 75 CL360 Cafe Build
Post by: MrMister on Nov 23, 2017, 01:19:35
A lot has been done.
Paint turned out fantastic, the second time... Never go with "oh i know a guy"
Title: Re: 75 CL360 Cafe Build
Post by: MrMister on Nov 23, 2017, 01:40:32
Put the engine in. Had the spokes trued and wheels balanced.
Title: Re: 75 CL360 Cafe Build
Post by: MrMister on Dec 08, 2017, 16:16:41
Steering damper off a gsxr750. Works pretty well.


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Title: Re: 75 CL360 Cafe Build
Post by: MrMister on Dec 08, 2017, 16:20:33
Rear sets. The brake was a bit tricky to figure out, but it works perfectly.


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Title: Re: 75 CL360 Cafe Build
Post by: advCo on Dec 08, 2017, 17:14:24
Nice work. I ran a cable on mine, which I've found to work pretty well but may have been a bit of extra work involved.

You may find your rear brake will perform better if the cams are parallel to each other:

Title: Re: 75 CL360 Cafe Build
Post by: Popeye SXM on Dec 08, 2017, 19:56:44
I am glad to see this bike coming together. Looks great, I want to see it finished
Title: Re: 75 CL360 Cafe Build
Post by: MrMister on May 27, 2018, 14:30:46
Almost done with fine tuning. Completely redid the harness. New cables for everything. Got my carbs back from CrazyPJ. had one of the brand new seals leak, (the main shaft oil seal for the clutch rod) so replaced that. Made the battery bracket for under the seat, and sorted all the wires out.
Title: Re: 75 CL360 Cafe Build
Post by: MrMister on May 27, 2018, 14:32:49
Nice work. I ran a cable on mine, which I've found to work pretty well but may have been a bit of extra work involved.

You may find your rear brake will perform better if the cams are parallel to each other:

Yeah, these sets are a bit limiting on giving you flexibility for positions. Its all in 90 degree increments.
Title: Re: 75 CL360 Cafe Build
Post by: MrMister on May 27, 2018, 14:39:52
New heavy duty clutch springs are a bit longer than stock. Oiling mods for the oil filter exit passage. Holes in the clutch basket to help keep it cool.
And had to replace my brand new Pirelli demon because it was cracking on the sides.
Title: Re: 75 CL360 Cafe Build
Post by: MiniatureNinja on May 28, 2018, 01:28:41
cool stuff. Dig that color scheme

one word of advice on those old school speed rearsets (I had them before I went back to stock) get some rod ends from QS components and replace those crapy 90* ends. they will kill you at worst and make adjustments and pedal feel terrible at best.
Title: Re: 75 CL360 Cafe Build
Post by: MrMister on May 30, 2018, 13:50:36
cool stuff. Dig that color scheme

one word of advice on those old school speed rearsets (I had them before I went back to stock) get some rod ends from QS components and replace those crapy 90* ends. they will kill you at worst and make adjustments and pedal feel terrible at best.

Thanks for the tip. Absolutely will do.


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