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Title: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics ,video, )
Post by: DreadRock on Sep 20, 2011, 23:20:13
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/111.jpg)
 
ok so i pulled this out of a field about 9 month ago. its a 1975 XS500b . got it for free with title,keys,and vines lol but been working on it and doing alot of reading and some talking on DTT and this is my build thread .....
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 20, 2011, 23:26:33
After pulling out of a field with brakes froze shut i got it home . (http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/119.jpg)
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 20, 2011, 23:55:45
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/155.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/130.jpg)
 
Found a few things along the way ....
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 20, 2011, 23:59:29
So after taking it all down and to the frame i sent the frame and swingarm to get blasted. I picked up a nice front end and shocks from a DTT member ( thanks jimmer) .....(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/026.jpg)
 
then i had some help from a friend with these inserts where the rear pegs were. going to be my pipe hangers ....(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/048.jpg)
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Post by: jaderd on Sep 21, 2011, 00:48:16
very nice...from the looks of the wood in that top pic i would say you dragged it through a vineyard....that has to be a grapevine branch yeah ?
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 21, 2011, 12:09:16
Thanks !
 
 nothing thing i found was under the front light ..... (http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/165.jpg)
 but after i cleaned it up i took a jumper box and hooked it up. turned the key and the dash came alive which i  was pumped about. i then pulled the motor to see what i need to do with it. ( i know im jumping around alil on the build sorry ) ok back to the frame i wanted to have a roller by end of summer but moved lil faster then i thought.so i was going to go with wire wheels but wow pricey lol so i did some asking and reading then picked up a set of 77 RD400 wheels. well the front went right on no problems but the back took some time. first need a 77 rd400 swing arm,axel,adjusters,spacers,brake stay and a few nuts that was a hunt to find.the rd swing arm mounted right up and it all worked out great....(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/DSC_0185.jpg)
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 21, 2011, 12:29:03
ok so after cleaning everthing and making list after list of thing i wanted to do and stuff i needed to do i hit the frame with some primer and paint just to keep the flash rusting under control. had a few things to do the frame still . im having a LOT of faith on the motor only because it had good comp and the oil was clean ( like new) and the inside of the motor was spotless.but if somethings wrong when i go to start it then ill pull it and rebuild it. so after picking up parts like clip-ons,tank,seat ( still waiting on that ) bolts and nuts. i started to really clean everything and repaint all the small stuff.and thins is where im at .........(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/XSmotor-2.jpg)
 
and the motor.....(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/motor.jpg)
 
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Post by: CrescentSon on Sep 21, 2011, 13:00:28
Hell man, consider me on-board. Nice work so far.
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Post by: sxecafe on Sep 21, 2011, 13:01:30
The tuning fork logo looks boss!
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Post by: Maritime on Sep 21, 2011, 13:17:09
Wow, great job so far, never guess the POS you pulled from the field is turning into that.  Love the Tuning fork cutouts fro the pipe mounts.
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 21, 2011, 13:24:00
thanks guys ! so as i did the tuning forks i also did the frame.....(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/frame.jpg)
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Post by: sxecafe on Sep 21, 2011, 14:09:33
That's awesome! What did you use, water jet?
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 21, 2011, 14:36:11
one of my customers has a table at his house. its not a water jet but im not sure on the name but it cuts with a torch but very clean and very sharp . it works great to draw it up on a program and hit cut . he also helped with the tuning forks . i can find out just what it is and a name if you need .
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Post by: sxecafe on Sep 21, 2011, 14:50:20
I'd love to know. Thanks!
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 21, 2011, 23:10:03
Put some plates in the frame to give me support and mounting for elec stuff and help with seat mounting.....(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/DSC_0189.jpg)
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 22, 2011, 12:44:51
Sxecafe its called a dynatorch is what he used on the tuning forks and frame !
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 22, 2011, 15:39:06
Well got my tail section today from Airtek ! the fit is perfect just need to do some very small trimming near the tank.....(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/seat2.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/seat3.jpg)
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 26, 2011, 18:37:20
Got wheels mounted today......(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/wheels.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/wheel2.jpg)
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Post by: jelloelstone on Sep 26, 2011, 20:59:13
man, those yamaha logos on the existing passenger peg place are rad! Keep er up!
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Post by: Swapmeet Louie on Sep 26, 2011, 21:03:21
pretty rad man... I like it! Shhh...
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Post by: hurricane7 on Sep 27, 2011, 02:44:36
Man, you work quick! Beautiful! Everything you've done!

As it sits, it reminds me of the Lotus F1 car from the same era ...
(http://www.f1-site.com/imgphoto/history/his-05-1600.jpg)

Nice work!
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Post by: HondaCBGuy on Sep 27, 2011, 03:00:24
Beautiful turnaround on that man!
And those JPS Lotus' were the shit for their day...
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Post by: kelvis on Sep 27, 2011, 03:02:39
Looking good. Can I ask which Airtek seat that was?
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Post by: Curtis on Sep 27, 2011, 09:52:26
Subscribed! love this build !
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 27, 2011, 10:49:01
The seat is a Airtek DUC92up seat its for a 79-81 DUCk 900ss...
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Post by: kelvis on Sep 27, 2011, 19:52:26
The seat is a Airtek DUC92up seat its for a 79-81 DUCk 900ss...
Cheers mate. It has really nice lines that match the tank well.
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 27, 2011, 21:16:39
in the pic the seat is just sitting funny not messed up lol .....(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/seatfront.jpg)
 
just had to make two small cuts to get the set pan to sit right ....(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/seatside.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/seat30.jpg)
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 29, 2011, 11:09:29
so after brain storming a lil over a few beers was wanting to do something with my stock pegs. im not really tall so where the stock pegs are seem to fit me. but wanted a lil cooler look . so i had a pair of gsxr 750 pegs laying around and messed with them a lil and this is what i came up with . still not sure if i want to go this way ? what do you think?(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/pegs2.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/pegs.jpg)
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Post by: kieferocks on Sep 29, 2011, 12:05:12
Very cool bike, I dig the frame gussets. What kind of paint did you use on the motor? Is that a regular wrinkle finish paint? Any special prep work before painting?
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Post by: Rusnak_322 on Sep 29, 2011, 15:50:03
I like this a lot. I am not normally a fan of mags, but those remind me of the wheels on my BMX bike as a kid. Any chance you are going to run red knobbies? ;)

I don't know about the peg placement, it looks like your bars are pretty low. You may want to rethink that. A few mins sitting on it in the garage may feel OK, but then when you are out riding and hitting bumps, you may regret it.
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Post by: BoneDaddy on Sep 29, 2011, 17:44:16
What a transformation! I can't wait to see what you end up with.
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Post by: jay_kent on Sep 29, 2011, 17:47:38
looks great
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 29, 2011, 20:07:21
Thanks guys ! as for the seating set up i agree its ok sitting here but may be bad things on the road ! just playing with a few things as far as where they may end up and how . will still need to pull it all back down to have the frame,swingarm and some small parts powder coated.
 
ok want to see what you guys think? this is the paint im thinking ( even tho thats a ways away lol ) i did this on the paint shop that came with my laptop and my art skills are ... well you see lol (http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/wheels-1.jpg)
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Post by: Andreas on Sep 30, 2011, 19:20:31
pretty incredible what you have done with this.
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 06, 2011, 12:42:39
been messing with the wheels and sub-fender for the rear wheel.....(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/wheel3.jpg)
 
still looking for a few new rear brake disk bolts have found a few but there 4 bucks a bolt LOL and need 11 of them ...
pics bad but this is how it turned out ...(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/bike3.jpg)
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Post by: dean owens on Oct 06, 2011, 16:02:56
this is why i love this site.  something that is trash to someone else is able to be turned into a great bike because of your vision, talent and hard work.  can't wait to see the end result.
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Post by: IndieSol on Oct 06, 2011, 17:30:21
Big fan.
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 18, 2011, 22:02:34
been doing some work on the brakes got the back caliper rebuild . now i moved on to the rear master and have a Q ? looking for a new master for the back anyone use a FZR or alike for a rear master on any XSs say 75 ? been looking and see the 76 xs500 has rear disk anyone have one i could get the center to center bolt holes or throw a idea what might work? thanks guys
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Post by: johnu on Oct 19, 2011, 00:14:44
You've donea great job on this bike.  I am especially impressed with the engine it looks great.  I am not really a lover of black bikes but this one looks wicked!
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 19, 2011, 10:43:01
thanks guys ! my list of things to do is getting smaller all the time been working on it about a hour a day . just doing the lil things i can do in my shop till i save more $$ for carbs , cables , head lamp , lil bolts here and there !
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 25, 2011, 11:13:30
Well been saving $$ for some parts so just been messing around with some small stuff. been thinkin on how i would mount the speedo onto the front. going to use the stock speedo only . think im going to mount it under the top tree with a plate just need to tap the top clamp hole all the way tho. then make some small spacers and run a longer bolt to mount it. may need some rubber inbetween to kill some of the vibs . so this is where im at ( prototype )......(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/speedo1.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/speedo.jpg)
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 27, 2011, 00:35:07
Did lil more work on the speedo set up and the plate made ( prototype 2 ) . got it mounted where i want it and just need to make it out of lil stiff gauge and put some rubber mounting. what i did was threaded the top two holes underside of the tree then ran short allthreat with a nut as a stop point. ended up working out good ....(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/almost.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/most.jpg)
how it looks from the cockpit ...(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/almost2.jpg)
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Post by: Swapmeet Louie on Oct 27, 2011, 12:04:12
Looks nice.
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Post by: ProSimex on Oct 27, 2011, 13:24:10
I like!
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Post by: cafecustom720 on Oct 27, 2011, 13:48:56
Man that tank and seat combo are pretty killer. Great looking bike!
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Post by: sxecafe on Oct 27, 2011, 13:50:24
Nice, man. I just did one the other day too. What gauge did you use?
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 27, 2011, 14:19:29
The parts i used was stuff i had laying around the shop. the main hanger on the tree is from a trip/speedoset up off my XC bike and the small braket is i believe 10 gauge. but needs cleaning up and this ones just a prototype. as it sits the speedo will shake it self apart. so now that i know it will work and is placed right ill make one that is all one piece and out of a more stiffer gauge.
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Post by: sxecafe on Oct 27, 2011, 14:50:02
Nice approach. I wanted mine to sit inside the mount. For that I need to make the brace lower. I think I might bend some stock up. How would you cut your thicker gauge, snips, or do you have a band saw etc?
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 27, 2011, 17:01:15
Band saw would be the way to go ! and i dont have one yet lol  so i used a cutoff wheel and a grinder. i have a customer that has helped me with somethings like the tuning forks and gusets on a dyno torch cutting table . and now that i have a working set up ill take it to him and have him cut me a nice clean one piece plate out of something lil thicker. might talk him into making a few more and see if anyone on DTT for XSs . ill let everyone know !
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Post by: Curtis on Oct 28, 2011, 19:40:45
How well is the speedo cable going to clear the center of the headlight?

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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 28, 2011, 20:51:01
I just throw on my stock speedo cable and looks like no problems. im still looking for ears and a good light and bucket but should be good to go. only thing i see is the cable need shortend because i put clip-ons on and droped the forks about 1 1/2 . think if im carefull i might be able to cut mine down to where i need it.(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/cable.jpg)
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 30, 2011, 11:43:11
Stop over at a friends house over  the weekend and picked up a front and back masters. there in working order just need a good cleaning and some paint . which is good , just one more thing off my list of needs. these are off a early gsxr and only  thing is needed is redo my mounting point for the rear and make a lil hanger off my clip-ons for the front  . going today over to a friends to make my new mount for the speedo and taalk about a few other things that i need to make.....(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/frontstop.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/master.jpg)
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Post by: DreadRock on Nov 07, 2011, 19:50:12
Got the final plate done today , mounted rubber gromlets. started to work on the rear master also need to figure how to mount it so dont get any binding ....(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/5765.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/6656.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/234.jpg)
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Post by: sxecafe on Nov 07, 2011, 20:23:55
Sick! Looks nice, man.
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Post by: MickyC on Nov 07, 2011, 20:26:42
crazy build mate the bike looks epic so far well done !!!
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Post by: bikeboy on Nov 08, 2011, 05:42:40
The tuning fork logo looks boss!

+1. Nice looking scoot. Keep it up

cheers
ian
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Post by: DreadRock on Nov 16, 2011, 11:04:07
Been messing around with the front fender and want to have more of a racing feel for it. so after brain storming a lil i trimmed off a lil from the front and the back...(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/989.jpg)
after that was looking at the speedo and just didnt like it sticking up there by itself. wanted a small cowl or something.so what i did was take the back part of the fender that i cut off and cleaned it up and make some brackets for it. then mounted it for a small cowl . then shaped it to match the headlight curve. not finished with it but what i was looking for lil more racing feel...(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/43434.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/564.jpg)
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Post by: hurricane7 on Nov 16, 2011, 11:42:55
Great idea with the fender/cowl! Can't say I've seen that before. Fender definitely looks better trimmed down. did you lower it too?
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Post by: DreadRock on Nov 16, 2011, 12:24:59
thanks ! yep lower it about 1/2 inch or so , so it would hug the tire lil more . still messing with the cowl to get it just right.was thinking of mounting it to the headlight bucket but didnt like how that looked so just mounted it to the speedo mount i made. just one of those things that work out perfect !
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Post by: MotorbikeBruno on Nov 16, 2011, 12:54:44
Like that fender idea man.  I like it.
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Post by: tv321406 on Nov 16, 2011, 13:36:57
Yea man that fender idea is pretty slick!

What're you doing about exhaust? If you're ditching the original mufflers, I'd love to buy the exhaust nuts if they're still intact... Pretty hard to find pieces!

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Post by: DreadRock on Nov 16, 2011, 14:30:06
sorry bud going to keep the front part of the exhaust and just add pipes .i took those exhaust nuts to the dealer and he told me he never seen ones like that befor. they have a allen key head on them . but after messing with them with some cleaner got them to look like new.but if i change my mind and you havent found any by then ill let you know !
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Post by: cafecustom720 on Nov 16, 2011, 21:20:39
I'd always thought a small cowl like that would look cool and I'm glad someone did it. It looks pretty sweet.
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Post by: tv321406 on Nov 17, 2011, 23:40:29
oh i was actually talking about the nuts that clamp the mufflers to the headers( like a 1.75"-? thread). i just use 6mm (i think) hex nuts on the exhaust studs haha.
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Post by: DreadRock on Dec 27, 2011, 17:27:07
well now that the new year is a few days away im heading back out to do some more work ! been saving $$ for parts and am looking at headlights. now i know almost all CR bikes have round headlight . but wanted to go a lil diff way maybe with a square light to go with my tank and tail ! what do you guys think would go well ? i know its all up to me but just looking for other ideas outside of the norm.....
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Post by: john83 on Dec 28, 2011, 01:08:25
That little cowl made from the fenderis very cool! Keep it up.
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Post by: Staffy on Dec 28, 2011, 03:54:39
Subscribing to this sucker.  Great work.
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Post by: DreadRock on Jan 11, 2012, 12:45:37
well back to work on the beast !  ordered a set of megaphone pipes other day from LowBrow customs and got them the next day. for 99.00 bucks it was a great deal and got the look that i was looking for . they came with 3 diff shims and nice looking clamps . used one of the shims which fit the header pipe and then made my own shim to help take out some of the slack. the mounting that came with it was good but didnt fit where i wanted the pipes to hang . so me and my bud Mikey G went about making ones that would work and set the pipes right where i wanted them.only thing i still need to do is clean up the hangers and make a stop for my sidestand so it dont hit the pipe.... i also picked up a new headlight from Dime City and am waiting on it should be this week and then ill be looking for my carbs ....(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/0909090.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/47689.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/98986.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/8908.jpg)
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Post by: valvesprung on Jan 11, 2012, 13:01:45
This build is fantastic! The detail work is really great, I'm very excited for the conclusion!
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Jan 11, 2012, 13:05:08
Yes sir, I can dig it.
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Post by: hurricane7 on Jan 11, 2012, 13:11:38
Lookin good, Dread!
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Post by: Cafe Redneck on Jan 11, 2012, 14:49:14
Very nice work, and those wheel look great!!!
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Post by: DreadRock on Jan 12, 2012, 10:53:10
so i had to move somethings around and had to mount my exhaust lil lower then i planed. was going to hang them off the welded on bolts that was used for the rear pegs. but as you can see the pipes turned out great. so last night i took the back wheel off then cut and smoothed out where the bolt was . turned out way better then i thought it would . should be getting my headlight soon so thats next......(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/54r.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/34434e.jpg)
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Post by: ako on Jan 12, 2012, 12:12:58
Cool build. Like everyone else I dig the tuning forks!  8)
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Post by: DreadRock on Jan 12, 2012, 21:16:38
Got my new light today from Dime City which i have to say ROCKS ! its a 7'' Metric style assembly black with a chrome ring . had everything ready to go on the bike so when i got the light it was on lol. but didnt have the right bolts for it , im trying to do everything in SS allens. so had a black pair that would work for the moment. and this is what i got ....(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/9921.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/223455.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/kk99.jpg)
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Post by: DreadRock on Jan 12, 2012, 21:37:34
so after messing with the light i  stated to work on my stop for my side stand. dont want to dent the new pipes and all. so was thinking of a few things like tapping a small hole under the lower frame rail but thought better of that . not that i plan on riding in the rain but you never know . and dont like drilling holes in the frame  lol. so was thinking maybe a nice clamp would work with a cool stop to it . started looking around the shop and found old bark-buster clamps out of aluminum that with a lil cutting and shaping would work nice. so after some messing with it i came up with this ( maybe not IT but close ).....(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/nf3i3.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/mfrrr.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/010111.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/202022.jpg)
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Post by: jay_kent on Jan 13, 2012, 15:05:41
that stop is awesome, too bad such a cool detail is hidden.
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Post by: DreadRock on Jan 23, 2012, 20:37:07
So after putting the new pipes and the headlight had to either scuf up the pipes and light ring or polish forks ,other small covers. i just couldnt bring myself to mess with perfect chrome so polishing it is. started to mess with the forks and a few other parts...(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/rd350fork.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/djdkn.jpg)
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Post by: DreadRock on Feb 03, 2012, 00:18:33
Not alot to add still polishing but did have the left fork leg tabs milled off and all polished up and back on the bike. Picked up a 71 R5 and a 72 DS7 in baskets lol sold the DS7 to a friend and have been helping him pull the motor apart for a rebuild . i wont get into it ill let him tell that story ! As for the R5 its in the planning but first I MUST FINISH THE XS ! ( i keep telling myself) so just polishing and planning for now ::)
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Post by: FlyinRyan350 on Feb 03, 2012, 15:23:55
I have been wondering how the hell I am going to mount my remote reservoir but now I know!  Great idea, can't believe I didn't notice it sooner. 


Edit:  Whoops, at first I thought you put a polished aluminum band around the top of the fork and mounted to that but as I went back I see the bracket mounted to the upper triple.  Was that a homemade bracket or did ya find one that would work?  I may still give the band/clamp idea a shot
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Post by: DreadRock on Feb 04, 2012, 10:08:56
No I made a prototype out of some parts from a mout for my XC speedo mount . Then when I got it where I wanted it I took that to a friend that has a cutting table and he cut it out . But will be remaking it because I need a mounting point for my ignition so going to rework it a lil ! If u need I have pics of the prototype and the mount that's on there !
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Post by: DreadRock on Mar 07, 2012, 14:51:42
Need lil help .... doing my wiring on the bike and keeping what i can if there good and new wire from front to back . the Q : can i run a pamco set up from a XS650 ( mikesXS ) on my XS500 ? and which would work best for my needs ? motor is stock and running stock coils .
 any help would be great thanks guys !
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Post by: DreadRock on Mar 11, 2012, 22:13:27
Picked up all my paint for the sheet metal other day . Going to be going Flame Red  on all the metal and black on the frame and other parts. Picked everything up from summit racing at a good price .....(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/hkjfhfkl.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/firefire.jpg)
Will be prepin everything in the next week or so !
am also picking up a new set of carbs and working the wiring out which is a learning leasson LOL !
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Post by: DreadRock on Mar 13, 2012, 12:16:21
Also went to pick up a new set of carbs  for the bike . going with VM32mm round slides , new 2 into 1 cable and throttle housing  . didnt get the carbs that day due to the fact there sitting in customs in Cal right now but should have them next week . did get the other stuff tho ....(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/cable-1.jpg)

Now i have been avoiding the wiring as much as i can lol but i cant any more do to thats where im at  ! i posted a few Q a while back about it and it was driving me nut so i moved on to other parts but i have to do it now if i want to or not . so been working on the harness trying to get it all worked out and let me say its a learning thing for sure !
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Post by: DreadRock on Mar 18, 2012, 10:23:31
Well the new carbs came in and a few other parts like a tail light and reg/rec . mounted up the carbs to check fit and all good there and got the tail section mounted . Now im workin on Frenchin in the tail light which is something new to me but will have a nice flow to the tail . Also have a Newtronic ignition YAM3 on the way so only have a few more odds and ends to get everything for the wiring buttined up and move on to other odds and ends like bolts and PCing parts ! (http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/carbs.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/KGrHqJHJDQE9E6IbwyBPUNFhNSyQ60_58.jpg)
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Post by: DreadRock on Mar 18, 2012, 10:35:46
Tail light and rec/reg.....(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/moreparts.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/partsss.jpg)
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Post by: DreadRock on Mar 18, 2012, 10:37:21
Just a cool pic of the carbs mounted up......(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/carbsface.jpg)
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Post by: sxecafe on Mar 18, 2012, 14:41:02
Awesome man... making some nice progress.

What all did you have to buy from Summit to complete the job. Every time I see someone buy paint from them it seems like 15 boxes of shit. I would love to try their stuff but that's a bit intimidating for me.
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Post by: Really? on Mar 18, 2012, 14:48:58
Amazing transformation!!!!
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Post by: DreadRock on Mar 18, 2012, 19:11:06
Thanks guys !

   Sxecafe going to be the first time ive painted or used there product . i can post the list of product and what they are if you would like . its a single stage paint so hoping will make it easier and with a nice finish. and really wasnt to costly which i thought was going to kill the budget lol
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Post by: sxecafe on Mar 19, 2012, 01:01:15
I would love to see the list, if you dont mind. I'll stay tuned for a full report. ;)
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Post by: Cloyd on Mar 19, 2012, 01:40:38
been messing with the wheels and sub-fender for the rear wheel.....(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/wheel3.jpg)
 
still looking for a few new rear brake disk bolts have found a few but there 4 bucks a bolt LOL and need 11 of them ...
pics bad but this is how it turned out ...(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/bike3.jpg)
Where did you find the red wheel rim trim I really like it?
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Post by: DreadRock on Mar 19, 2012, 11:30:46
Cloyd : i got the wheel trim from ebay there are a few diff ones you can find and for any bike !

sxecafe : here is a list of the paint supplys i picked up from summit ......(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/listofpaint.jpg)
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Post by: DreadRock on Mar 19, 2012, 11:36:35
Worked on the rear tail light last night and with a lil more work will have it off to paint ! Took me all day to bring myself to cut into the tail section must have made 3 or 4 templets and back and forth to get it right the first time . need to find a lil softer trim to go around the opening  but over all really like the way it came out ......(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/klwdpaq.jpg)
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Post by: sxecafe on Mar 19, 2012, 13:21:51
Thanks, for the pain list man... doesnt seem too difficult and oddly enough, most everything makes sense.

and Dude.... are you really going to leave me hanging with just that one awesome picture of the tail light?! Can you at least show me under the seat too?! I have a similar set up coming and want to see how you did it. Looks rad.
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Post by: paddlesat16 on Mar 19, 2012, 17:46:30
What a sweet ride, awsome work :)
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Post by: DreadRock on Mar 19, 2012, 20:38:23
Thanks Pad ...!

 sxecafe : Here are a few pics of the bracket and how i mounted it . Took the stock bracket the light came on and made some bends . And the way i have the light mounted i can pull the tail off with 3 bolts and slide the tail off. Light truely isnt mounted to the seat , its mounted to the rear plate .(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/shell.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/tailone.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/wold.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/wlokk.jpg)
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Mar 29, 2012, 16:17:09
Not doing a whole lot just waiting on more parts and time . Heres a list of parts waiting to be installed:
   Newtronic Ignition ( Yam3 )
   New Shorai battery
   New Sumax (red) plug wires
   Starter relay
   Rec/Reg
   Clutch cable from Motion-Pro
   Clutch Adjuster
 Have to say the Shorai battery is sweet and is a small battery about 2lbs and fits in my palm. So need one more part i believe and i can start on the wiring and I HOPE get it running in the next few weeks ! (http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/KGrHqJHJDQE9E6IbwyBPUNFhNSyQ60_58.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/moreparts.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/shorai.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/wiressss.jpg)
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... The Sock Monkey
Post by: two-smoker on Mar 29, 2012, 17:44:52
Keep us posted for sure on the Newtronic ignition and how you like it. I plan on getting one, but other expenses keep getting in the way. And not to sound shitty or anything, but I'm glad you're using a different taillight than I am.... Great minds may think alike, but I'd hate to head to a show or something and see another bike just like mine. And yours is really close!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... The Sock Monkey
Post by: fuggers on Mar 29, 2012, 17:58:05
That light looks perfect in there, very natural.  I can't wait to see this thing finished.
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Post by: DreadRock on Apr 05, 2012, 11:54:11
So been working on where all the Elec stuff will go out of the way . The Rec/reg i know needs to have some air to keep it cool so mounted it under the seat tray i put in. Then i picked up a Shorai battery, Newtronic Ignition,Starter Relay all very small to place under the seat bump. After messing with this way or that way with the parts this is what i came up with. Also Ive made it so with 3 bolts i can remove the seat and work on it if needed . Should be getting my last elec part today so hoping by next week can get on the wiring and get it running befor pulling it apart to have PC and some painting done !
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/alls.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/allll.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/mmmqmqmq.jpg)
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Post by: Cloyd on Apr 05, 2012, 15:08:27
I like that setup for your electronics under the seat.  Looks like it will be nice and hidden.
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Post by: DreadRock on Apr 05, 2012, 16:08:50
Yea im hopin ,it all fits nice and clean under the tail . Now if i can get all the wires in there nice and clean !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... The Sock Monkey
Post by: Sandrew on Apr 05, 2012, 16:52:43
You seem to have enough room in there for electrics, mine was a bit more tighter fit.

Coming together nicely!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Apr 06, 2012, 10:17:49
Well After pulling my hair out over the wiring i seem to have made some head way . with the help of a buddy we where able to get some power moving . Got the new ignition all mounted up and started to run wire. Got the starter button to go make the starter relay to go CLICK CLICK CLICK and the tail light to fire up along with the dash lights. First of next week will be getting the other parts up and going  im hoping !
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/2ndlight.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/firstlight.jpg)
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... The Sock Monkey
Post by: Hoosier Daddy on Apr 06, 2012, 11:40:18
So you plan on removing the brake fluid reservoir to fill it?
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Post by: Cloyd on Apr 06, 2012, 12:13:22
Did you completely trash the original wiring harness or just add to it? I am struggling to take that step since mine is perfectly fine.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... The Sock Monkey
Post by: Cloyd on Apr 06, 2012, 12:14:14
There are just too many damn wires on the stock wiring harness and wanna simplify it.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Apr 06, 2012, 12:59:42
Once i fill the rear reserve its just for looks who needs rear brakes lol  No think the pic makes it look that way has more then enuff room to remove the cap and can add more fluid .
 As for the wiring harness goes the stock one had some bad spots where the shielding was gone . So went tho it and cleaned those up and removed what im not using and went from there . With newer parts it removed alot of shit off the harrness. Just using the stock harness to make a prototype then once i have it all worked out will copy that one to make new one !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... The Sock Monkey
Post by: Sonreir on Apr 06, 2012, 13:02:18
Get a white LED on that gauge, man.  It's a bit too dim right now!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Apr 06, 2012, 13:41:47
Yea i agree ,the bottom light is burnt out and was think of putting red ones in to match everything else !
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Post by: DreadRock on Apr 10, 2012, 10:52:39
Stop over at my buddys who is painting my tins this weekend and help him get everything in primor. Should have it in color by this coming weekend we are hoping ! Still needs wet sanded and some fill here and there but not to bad so far. Also will be working on wiring this week and hope to have the bike running soon ! (http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/tankpaint.jpg)(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/tankpaint2.jpg)
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Post by: DreadRock on Apr 25, 2012, 19:41:46
And things are moving now almost done with wiring have two small things waiting for then it will be all done . Looking for a few other parts like pods,chain,brake lines etc....
 Still need to figure out the front brake set up thinking of going with a FZR disk and caliper but not 100% on that as of now . My buddy thats painting my bike sent me these today and cant say how happy i am with it . I never thought when i started this build i would be at this point but here we are . They still need wet sanded and cleared going over this weekend to help out and hope to learn something.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/redtwoone.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/redone.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/onetwo.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/frontfender.jpg)
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... The Sock Monkey
Post by: Cloyd on Apr 26, 2012, 00:15:17
Those look really good.  Hope my tins turn out that well. 
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Apr 26, 2012, 09:40:27
Oooohhhh, Shiny!

Nice man!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... The Sock Monkey
Post by: VonYinzer on Apr 26, 2012, 13:23:01
Looks good! Keep it up man. By the way... A sock monkey... Is that where you take a tube sock, fill it with lotion and... OOOHHHHH... You probobly mean the doll. I get it. Carry on.
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Post by: DreadRock on Apr 26, 2012, 13:52:15
UMMMMM....Dont know what your talking about and im sticky .... I mean sticking to my story ....
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Post by: Hoosier Daddy on Apr 28, 2012, 09:21:07
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3579/3451917712_a5dfb8c509.jpg)
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Apr 28, 2012, 10:19:17
LOL That my friend is some funny shit ! The name "sock monkey" came from the rear tail light . After a few beers and messin with the tail light it looked like the sock monkey lips . So after cutting some black tape for eyes we started calling the bike sock monkey lol and don't believe anything Von will tell you, he doesn't  like red bikes and just wants to tell  me  my bike SUCKS ! LOL
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Post by: DreadRock on May 02, 2012, 23:59:22
So was over at the painters helping with the Yamaha decals befor clearing it . Also have been working on the brake problem on the front . And lifes funny see a fellow DTT member had just a very small motor problem. If you havent seen BradJs motor all i can say is WOW ! As it just so happens he was looking for a topend which i had and i was looking for FZR parts. So long story short it worked out for both of use and I would just like to thank him very cool dude . So back to the paint ......
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/sweet.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/sweeet.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/sweeeet.jpg)
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Post by: parts413 on May 03, 2012, 00:28:11
Looking good.
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Post by: two-smoker on May 03, 2012, 04:31:00
I dig it!
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Post by: FlyinRyan350 on May 03, 2012, 14:50:30
Beauty!  Get that thing put together!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on May 06, 2012, 22:39:58
Got to pick up the tins over the weekend and i have to say im very happy with how they turned out. Told myself i would not put the tins on till after i got the wiring done and a few other things. But i just had to know how much diff it made the look  and been waiting to see it in color for a long time. Plans from here are to finish wiring , pick up a new chain, order new pods, and see if i can get it started !
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/WOOOOOOW.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/wooeeo.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/wwwoooo.jpg)
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... The Sock Monkey
Post by: JustinLonghorn on May 07, 2012, 09:53:11
Yes sir.
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Post by: MotorbikeBruno on May 07, 2012, 12:50:32
Looking good!
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Post by: two-smoker on May 07, 2012, 12:52:42
I love the color and all, but, man, you need some stripes or something to break up all that red...
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on May 07, 2012, 14:03:27
I agree with you 100% ! Im working on that as i type this lol Im heading for a Ducati look with a lil carbon fiber here and there . Going to use the tape on the tail for # plates for now and see how i like it will also have some small lettering on like DOHC500 . its in the works trust me lol
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Post by: Cafe Redneck on May 07, 2012, 18:27:09
Very nice!!!
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Post by: sxecafe on May 07, 2012, 18:29:53
Looks awesome!
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Post by: DreadRock on May 07, 2012, 20:33:26
Well i can say .... IT"S ALIVE LOLOLOLO ALIVE I TELL YOU !!!!!! So after putting freah oil in it and going over a few things we put gas to it and took a min but started right up and i have to say sounded NIIIIICE ! Still need to do some tuning and small things but it was a big step to finishing it . Will pull it apart now and send it out for PC then will start the i hope final assembly and tuning ! I have to i give Yamaha props that motor has not ran for around 20 years lol

 How do i post a video to see what you guys thing ?
 Thanks
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on May 07, 2012, 21:26:49
Fuck Yeah!
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Post by: Hoosier Daddy on May 08, 2012, 21:46:33
Whoot-Whoot!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on May 14, 2012, 21:59:49
Well the bike got all pulled apart down to the frame . Was funny looking at it just sitting there like when i started the build. Took it to a powder coater today so should get it back sometime next week. So till it gets back will be working on some small details. When it gets back i will be ready to start lock tighting stuff down . Will also be working on front disk mounting and caliper so stay tuned........
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Post by: DreadRock on May 23, 2012, 15:54:12
Well picked up my frame today and man it looks great ! Time to get this bike on the road and have some fun with it . Got alot done as far as small stuff taken care of and my new spacer and caliper holder are in the works . Will be droping the motor in tonight along with a few other parts. My plan as it may be is to just work slow and make sure all is right . I also plan on haveing on the road by the end of this month or mid of june . Will still need a lil tuning im sure but man can feel the grin on my face already LOL
    LET THE FUN START !!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Cloyd on May 23, 2012, 19:15:25
Cant wait to see it come together and lets see a video of the start up
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Post by: DreadRock on May 24, 2012, 10:56:11
I have a video of it starting but for some reason cant get it to post but will get it up some how .

 OK so i started last nights work by cleaning any PC off of the spots i dont want it . Was not to bad over all with a lil sanding here and there . Then moved on to getting some legs under the bike with the swingarm and shocks. Took lil longer to do this so to the fact my brass bushings needed some fine tuning . Got it nice and smooth and working like it should and went togther nice . My buddy sstop over who is making my spacer for the FZR front brake set up and ran into a small problem . Do to the fact im running 77 RD400 wheels , 78 XS500 forks i cant running the spacer that we thought we could . So we spent the rest of the night comeing up with a few ideas and in the end got it figured out . Now just need to wait till some Alum comes in to make the new spacer and get it mounted . We did throw the disk on to see how it looked and if everything will line up and not rub on anything or jam and throw me over the bar on to my face . Didnt get as far as i would have liked but not in a rush or bad things could happen . So at the end of the night i couldnt help but throw the tank and seat on to see out it looked . I can still move forward and get a few other things done till the spacer is ready so the next thing im planing to do it get the front forks on and wheels ..........
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/A44.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/A22.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/A1.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/A6.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/A3.jpg)
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on May 24, 2012, 11:42:57
Hell yeah, man!
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Post by: milehigh on May 24, 2012, 11:54:48
jesus christo, mui bien amigo. that shits tits.
Title: Out in a field Build ... The Sock Monkey
Post by: Fox on May 24, 2012, 12:18:20
Yeah, I just read this whole thing.
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Post by: MotorbikeBruno on May 24, 2012, 14:14:37
^^^^ what Milehigh said.

Edit: damn it put this on the next page... >:(
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Post by: Cafe Redneck on May 24, 2012, 18:37:57
I can see bike of the month in your near future. looks great!!!
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Post by: FlyinRyan350 on May 24, 2012, 20:14:16
very nice!
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Post by: Maritime on May 24, 2012, 21:06:45
Nice.  I would ride it.

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Post by: MickyC on May 24, 2012, 21:19:14
I just wanted to remind myself where this bike started from.  From clicking on page one to page fourteen I am dumbfounded in the transformation so far. You should be extremely proud of yourself. I think this will end up being one of the best builds on dtt. Well done mate.
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Post by: DreadRock on May 25, 2012, 01:05:05
Wow man thanks for the pressure lol ! And thanks guys .  Well as you can guess was out in the shop all night again . Started with placing the new head bearings place the race in the frig over night . Lil bit of love and they seated right in . Then got the forks on and just place the front wheel on its axel still need to work on spacer . Made sure i put the clip-on clamps on befor the top tree went on . So moved onto the rear wheel now i know there's no disk on the back but it will be drilled to mach the front FZR disk . I wounder if i could run a rear FZR disk ? Maybe next winter on that one so got everything mounted and its on its own legs. I did this so i could place the motor in and give me lil more stable platform to slid the motor in . Taped a few thing up and with a helping hand from a friend slide the motor right in and no dings . Took some messing with but got all the bolts in . Now tho  i see i need to replace the the washers and nuts . So just thought the carb where just sitting there begging to go on the motor and next thing you know there mounted . Then thought why not the pods also so there on ! Here's a few picks of the work tonight !
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/A10.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/A11.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/A9.jpg)
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... The Sock Monkey
Post by: JustinLonghorn on May 25, 2012, 10:15:05
Hey man, if you do indeed pick up a rear FZR rotor, I have a rear FZR caliper sitting in my shop. If you want it, I'll send it your way.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on May 25, 2012, 10:35:01
Cool thanks justin , not sure if it will work . Would think i would need a diff caliper hanger and a spacer made up . Would look cool tho and im going to look into it and see what it would take .
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... The Sock Monkey
Post by: JustinLonghorn on May 25, 2012, 10:35:42
Just let me know, my man.
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Post by: DreadRock on May 25, 2012, 11:25:49
I agree on that , have the sheet metal sitting there waiting to be cut and mounted. But now that i see a clear one might have to rethink it . Thanks for the pic !
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Post by: DreadRock on May 25, 2012, 12:19:03
If i may did you cut that or had it cut ? If so how did you cut it ?
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Post by: DreadRock on May 25, 2012, 12:48:18
Cool man thank you very much for the info ! ;D
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on May 25, 2012, 12:53:23
I built the one for the 360 out of a sheet of copper.
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Post by: DreadRock on May 25, 2012, 13:47:09
Can't think of the members name but he did some eching on copper plates for the side of the bike and they looked great. Dont know justin if copper would work on the XS everything is red,black,chrome. I'm trying to decide if i want to keep or paint the inside of the front disk as its gold right now .

 Been thinking about the rear disk , do you know if the rear fzr disk mounting holes are the same as the front ? If so i could go about the back like the front and make a new spacer with a small hanger . Would finish off the back to match the front .
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on May 25, 2012, 13:53:40
yep. Same bolt pattern. make it happen, Cap'n.

I would paint the rotor, but that's just me.

And no, I don't think copper would look right on your scoot, ha. You could always do up a splash guard in Carbon Fiber. That would match up pretty well, eh?
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Post by: Fox on May 26, 2012, 01:36:04
And no, I don't think copper would look right on your scoot, ha. You could always do up a splash guard in Carbon Fiber. That would match up pretty well, eh?

+1
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Post by: DreadRock on May 29, 2012, 11:42:41
So over the long weekend i spent alot of time out in the shop . I tell you what i was pulling my hair out trying to find or replace washers,nuts,bolts that would fit and work right . Have to say gettting good at just looking at a bolt or nut and haveing a good idea on size and thread pitch lol. But can say ive got most of the work done just need a few more things still . Seems to never end lol i just can go half ass on it now . Thanks to that i've decided to go ahead and run a FZR rear disk out back to match the front . So will need to make a nother spacer for it which might take a lil more time to get it right . Did get some of the wiring done and most of the stuff mounted under the seat . All fit nicely like it should and fit under the seat well. I also replaced the 3 grease fitting from the old style to a new style .
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/A132.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/A3232.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/A323.jpg)
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Post by: john83 on May 29, 2012, 14:23:12
Looks awesome man.
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 01, 2012, 11:10:28
Thanks !  Well small update on the build its down to the wire or you could say down to the brakes ! Everything is ready to go but the brakes and tuning the bike . But there has been a lil set back but think we have it worked out . Once we put the front disk where it needs to be it will not clear the inside of the forks . And if we move it in the FZR caliper just hits the mag spoke . So we put the front disk where it needed to be with room to move and started making a few calls to see if we can find a caliper thats thiner then the FZR . What we came up with is a Honda CBR caliper is a bit thiner then the FZR one and with it will have no problem with mounting the front up just need to cut the spacer and hanger . Now moving on to the back from what we figured out should be alot smoother and only need to make a spacer and mount it up and have a set of lines made . Would like to thank Justinlonghorn and BradJ for the help on the brake parts Thanks Guys ! Will post pics of the spacers and everything when they come in........
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Post by: two-smoker on Jun 01, 2012, 12:36:55
I'd love to see some pictures of those issues... I didn't have the same issues,.because I started with spoked wheels and a CBR caliper, so the comparison would be interesting.
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 01, 2012, 12:48:39
Ill get you a few for yea  and i did find that with the spoke wheels the FZR set up works . I was using BradJs bike as a guide. Then when i put them on the mag wheels diff story but i will get it worked out !
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 01, 2012, 13:52:56
Got  time to grab a few pics of the disk and caliper problem . First one is of where the disk would have to be if i ran the FZR caliper. And the next is the disk and FZR caliper sorry for the bad shot hard to take a pic in a tight space. Please let me know if you see something im missing or any other ideas i might be missing ! And will be removing the studs to run lil longer bolts as theres no threads to run a nut on there safely !
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/A922.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/A53.jpg)
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 01, 2012, 13:55:25
And yes that is the stock mounting spacer behind the disk. Gave me the right spaceing or very close for what i need to figure out . Will not be the one being used .
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 04, 2012, 10:28:23
Spent some time out in the shop over the weekend and got a few small things done . Got a good idea how the front will work out and needed to figure out the rear brake set-up next . Justinlonghorn hooked me up with a few FZR rear brake parts. Its funny how parts that are over 10 years apart fit together. What i did was take a FZR rear brake hanger and mounted it instead of the RD400 hanger i had . The funny part was the RD axel is a spot on match to the FZR hanger went right together. Well thought the rear FZR rear caliper would not fit but come to find out had it on backwards the first time and will work with a lil work. Still need to work a few things out adn far as spaceing but over all is going to work . Here are a few pics of how it turned out .This is just a mock up to get a idea of mounting.  Please if someone sees something that is unsafe or just wont work do point out please !
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/b36.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/b657.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/B75.jpg)
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Jun 04, 2012, 10:44:27
Hell yeah, man. That looks like it will work out all kinds of nice.
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 04, 2012, 11:50:47
Thanks man hopin to get it all work out ! Now was told a few things to think about which are good points. These are just a mock up and are a long way to getting right and spaced right. The spacers and getting everything centered right still needs to be worked out and mounting needs to be tweaked to fit right and functional .
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 08, 2012, 22:57:42
Thanks Guys ! 
   Small update : Got the small parts to rebuild the kickstarter also waiting on a order from Dime City.As for the brake set up going to start on the back and get it all done first . Will be starting with getting the hanger and caliper mounted . Then will get the spaceing for the rotor and center of the caliper . Ordered all the metal to make front and back spacers : 1 3/16 303ss round stock , 6 1/2 ''x 1 1/2 , 4"x 1 1/2 round stock 6061 . Will pick it up monday and take it right to the machinist to get started . Once the rear is done and buttoned up will move on to the front .
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/kickstart.jpg)
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Post by: Maritime on Jun 09, 2012, 11:24:58
Nice.  Cant wait to see this thing in person.

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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 11, 2012, 19:31:56
Picked up all the metal for the spacer ....
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/metalspacer.jpg)
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Jun 11, 2012, 19:58:57
Huzzah!
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Post by: SeekingZero on Jun 13, 2012, 02:33:53
Nice work.  I like the attention to detail.  Subscribed.
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Post by: gentlemanjim on Jun 14, 2012, 00:43:33
Well done and such great attention to detail.  Very ambitious getting the modern brake set up to work.  What did you use for the carbon fiber look panels on the seat cowl?
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 14, 2012, 09:59:09
Thanks guys ! It very simple i used CF sheet tape to make them .

 OK so all has been going smooth as much as you can say that on a build no big hicups ! If you have read my thread didnt mess with the motor other then new gaskets and valve adjustment . Got the motor to run and everything NPs > Then just pulled the motor and set it to the side to have the frame PCed. Got that back and but the motor back in again NP as i buttoned everything up. So I know it started with the E button and when i put the motor in the kicker worked . So here comes the kick in the teeth moment !!!!!!! I was tighting the main bolt on the front sproket and as i was it turned the motor over backwards !!! Now I have read that could be a very bad thing  ! So now when the kicker is pushed down theres NOTHING just some resistance . There are no grinding sounds or anything and goes thru the stroke smooth . Then i checked to see if its even turning the motor over and its not . So then took the valve cover off to have a look and seemed to me that the kicker was not engageing the motor .
  So jumped online to have a look at how the kicker engages the motor and there is a larger gear that sits on a worm gear . I m thinking that maybe by the motor going backwards a lil it might have slide the larger gear off of the smaller one . Which if it did will have to pull the motor and pull it apart which im very pissed at myself if thats the case.
Now im not 100% this is the problem going to do some more looking and reading and asking dumb things . Im hoping that its more simpler then im thinking ( Plan for the worst hope for the best ) but if anyone can help out as to what i might have done or what to look at befor i pull it all down would be great !!!!!!
 
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Post by: Maritime on Jun 14, 2012, 10:46:59
hmm, I would hope the little bit you moved it backwards would be no worse then rocking back and forth in gear to find neutral?  How much backwards?  Can you shift in into gear and roll it and then go back into neutral and check the kicker again?  They are designed to disengage after starting and maybe that happened and you need to move it a bit to re-set it?  All therory here as the only kick start bike I have worked on is a honda 50 clone.  Good luck, I am sure someone with more yamaha knowledge will chime in,

Maritime
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 14, 2012, 11:21:24
Yep tried that bud had NP going to neutral or back into gear . Played around with it to see if that would work and nothing . As for how many times it rotated backwards as i was tighting it think it 1 -1 1/2 turns which by the look of a blown up pic could very well spin that gear off the worm gear .
  Was thinking well the E button works could just run it with out a kicker BUT i put way to much time and everything into making this bike and can see it now " I start it up and something that was a pain but could be fixed just " F ed " the motor all up and have to do a total rebuild not just a pull the motor apart and slide a gear back in place " If it comes down to one or the other will pull it apart to fix it first !
 Going to go at it very slow and look at simple things first then "IF" the fix is in the motor will pull it even if keeps the bike off the road till next year GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or till i get it done !
  As for mid-ohio which i really wanted to take it to which was my goal will ride the victory or drive ! NOTHING WILL STOP ME LOLOLOLOLOL

P.S THIS SUCKS !
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Post by: Maritime on Jun 14, 2012, 11:28:52
Yes it does. I have been there with the GL, just before Barber I get new points, in a hurry to time so I leave plugs in, set Timing, new points + correct timing equals way better running bike, little did I know my high compression engine allowed me to overtorque the alternator bolt and shear threads off.  I went to do belts about a week before the 2000 mile ride and the bolt was dangling out of the engine.  That meant pulling the motor to fix!  It sucked, and I had to cage it to barber, but live and learn. I hope you can fix this without having to pull the motor.
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 14, 2012, 11:53:37
Thanks man ! Guess i can look at it this way, if i cant get it done by Mid-ohio can carry a LARGE cooler full of fun lol With a trailer just in case me or someone finds something they cant go with out LOL  ;D
 And yes sir its a learning thing which isnt always bad just no fun !
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Jun 14, 2012, 12:35:46
This sucks, man. But, even if you have to pull the motor, you can still get this sucker done in time for Mid-Ohio.
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Post by: two-smoker on Jun 14, 2012, 12:52:55
I kind of screwed up my kicker install, and when I cranked the motor over for the first time with the e-start, the kicker went down through its stroke by itself and whacked me in the shin.... Not fun. The motor spun over fine with the kicker and it returned to the top of its stroke just fine until I used the electric leg. Turns out I had the spring installed wrong.
 Long story short, see if cranking it over with the electric leg clears up the problem before you open her up again. Having the extra speed of the electric start may just knock her right back into place.
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 14, 2012, 12:57:31
Im going to try my friend ! Going to start tonight with a few things and work from the kicker in and see what happens . Have the week of the july 4th off so i hope will have it done by then !

   First thing will try is make sure i look over everything out side motor to make sure im not missing anything . And if that dont work will drain the oil and pull the clutch cover off and see whats there and if anything is disengaged and if i need to go deeper into the motor will pull it out of the frame and pull The monkey motor apart . It sucks because i will have to spilt the case to get to it .
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Post by: MotorbikeBruno on Jun 14, 2012, 13:13:39
I wish you good luck sir!  I bet you'll get it fixed up in no time!
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Post by: axeugene27 on Jun 14, 2012, 13:19:46
interested to see how this plays out. I went to kick over my bike the other day and it felt like i just put it into a pile of mud Really weird. Drained the oil and refilled it. Seems that there was too much oil in the engine somehow.....may have been me idk. Seemed to self resolve after draining some of the oil out. very tight looking machine btw.
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 14, 2012, 17:42:50
So im all pissed at work and all i can do is think of what the problem is and what to do. As i said i most always " Plan for the worst and hope for the best "  well might turn out to be the best . I said fuk it and took the rest of the day off to go home and work on the bike . So after sitting and thinking what could it be and what did i do last from when it worked to when it didnt i came up with the clutch engage /disegage arm . I Drained the oil and pulled the started side cover off which the arm is bolted to and there you have it  !!!!!!! Works like it should so now am thinking that the clutch was half engaged half out . Now im going to look around and see if thats was it 100% or only 80% . So if it turns out to be just the arm is messed up will fix or replace and go from there !!!!!!!!! We will see and thanks guys for all the help !!!
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Post by: MotorbikeBruno on Jun 14, 2012, 18:16:08
NICE!!!! 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Post by: axeugene27 on Jun 14, 2012, 18:17:11
hmm i recently adjusted my clutch as well maybe on to something here.
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 15, 2012, 12:12:05
So after pulling the left side motor cover off everything went back to working right . Im thinking something with the clutch set up is off and not engageing / disengageing the kicker . Or something is wrong with the clutch arm where the clutch cable engages the clutch .... this lil sucker
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/grrrr-1.jpg)
  Will be looking into if its this lil part as dont know what the PO did or didnt do so will start there. If thats not it will move on to the clutch plates itself and see if there stuck or need replaced ! When i was doing the motor work the clutch seemed fine . If i have to replace will be looking to up grade the clutch and get it right !
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Post by: two-smoker on Jun 15, 2012, 12:39:43
Well, if you do need to replace the clutch, at least you can still get new parts... The FZ and Maxim motors used the same bits. One of the few things Yamaha thought good enough to use in something else!
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 15, 2012, 12:47:00
Cool thanks for the info man  ;D  so a FZR clutch will slide right in NPs ?
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Post by: two-smoker on Jun 15, 2012, 21:10:41
Not quite... Before the FZR- the FZ600, or a Maxim 550 should work, too. I gotta be honest,  I don't know if the FZR was even close. I do know the plates and steels fit into the TX/XS clutch basket, though. Same part numbers, even.
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Post by: ryanbfast on Jun 15, 2012, 22:20:47
wow, really impressive. great work!!!!!!!
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 16, 2012, 01:14:49
Thanks ryan and 2smoker ! Will look into it and spent some time in the shop and thinking that its not so much the clutch itself . Thinking its more of a adjustment with the clutch as it seemed to be engaged/disengaged so left the kicker in limbo. So plan on starting from there and see what happens!
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Post by: axeugene27 on Jun 16, 2012, 12:03:01
IDK dread rock i just loosened my clutch adjustment and bingo bango problem gone. I was thinking it would of been the same for you. Hope it's not to crazy a fix.
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Post by: cyclefreak on Jun 16, 2012, 14:17:30
Dreadrock, just in case you didn't know. THIS BUILD THREAD IS FREAKIN AWESOME!
Keep up the good work brother.
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 20, 2012, 10:28:23
Thank you very much im trying ! Well got the order from Dime City and this is what i got ...
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/new1.jpg)
 Spent some time messing with it  last night and have to say im likeing it . Still waiting on the spacers going to give the guy all the time he needs so there right the first time around i m hoping !
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/new2.jpg)
 Also can anyone give me some info on the adjuster arm for the clutch as the manual sucks !
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Post by: axeugene27 on Jun 20, 2012, 11:23:26
ooohhhh shiny
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Post by: bradj on Jun 20, 2012, 21:29:08
Good stuff man
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Jun 20, 2012, 21:54:01
I'd ride it.
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Post by: Fox on Jun 21, 2012, 15:27:03
Can you fill me in on how you did the detailing on your rims? Looks fantastic.
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 21, 2012, 16:24:27
Its in the thread someplace but i are you talking about the red and white yamaha decals? If so i picked them up off ebay. There made for modern sport bikes but fit NPs and you just clean the rims and take your time . Helps if the wheel is off the ground so you dont have to work upside down or what not . You can get them in any color or make and they came with a few extras . Think this is what you are asking me lol
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Post by: VonYinzer on Jun 21, 2012, 21:52:47
This bike is really turning out superb. Well done man.
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Jun 22, 2012, 09:23:44
This bike sucks. I'll come get it from you next month to save you some embarassment. Ha

It is fantastic, sir.
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Post by: 3DogNate on Jun 22, 2012, 09:43:21
Yep, looking good....

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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 22, 2012, 10:32:43
LOL Thanks guys !
 Sure justin its yours but will trade you a Moped ( good on gas ) and a big wheel for it ! The big wheel must have a title and working order ! No Flat spots from E brakeing it  LOLOLOLOL ;)
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 22, 2012, 12:17:30
Did run in to a problem last night working on the foot pegs all my fault . Took lil to much off the tip of the peg to get it to fit but hey your going to have that from time to time . So planning on running the stock pegs for now and this winter pulling them off and makeing a nice pair of rear sets.  ::)
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Post by: SrgtBear on Jul 05, 2012, 21:11:27
Dude!  I haven't been on here in a long time but your XS is blowing my mind.  You definitely surpassed mine.  I am truly honored to see this beauty.

How do you like the newtronics electronic timing?
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Post by: DreadRock on Jul 05, 2012, 22:33:28
Thank you very much man ! I've had alot of help from some great members here and have to say your bike is one of the XSs that inspired me  ! As for the Newtronics set-up have to say was very easy to install on the bike . On first start up all i needed to do was adjust the cam as it was 180 out and fired right up . Im still waiting on spacers but got news today the back are all done . As soon as i get it all done and road worth i will get a full report on here to let yea know !
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Post by: two-smoker on Jul 06, 2012, 07:53:12
Before you put any serious miles on, I've heard some disturbing things from the TX/XS forum regarding the Newtronic unit. Not a huge deal before you ride aways, but make sure your ignition rotor is put together solid. Newtronic uses a small solder joint to hold the disc to the rotor shaft, and several have failed. I'm planning on hitting mine with a couple quick spot welds for security. Got the idea from jimmer.
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Post by: DreadRock on Jul 06, 2012, 10:43:29
Will have to take a look at that and seeing as jimmer would bring that up its most likely true as the man knows the XSs inside and out !
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Post by: DreadRock on Jul 16, 2012, 23:29:57
No real update as of now waiting on spacer still for the rear wheel ! Also pick up another bike Yamaha FJ and been messing with it .  :o
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Post by: DreadRock on Jul 25, 2012, 12:58:05
Well mid-Ohio is over and picked up something for the XS that i think it was missing . And taking to a few guys from DTT and a few drink really think i need to run rear sets on it for comfort and looks . I really want this bike to be everything in my minds eye so not sure will have it done this year but io know will be well worth it . Had a few ideas thrown at me from justin,mike,and brad so ive been doing some thinking and have a few ideas. Hope to get it out this year but if i wanted it right im not thinking it will. But hey thats how these things go . Heres what i picked up at MO .....
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/xstac.png)
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Jul 25, 2012, 13:00:22
Yes sir!
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Post by: Maritime on Jul 26, 2012, 08:52:58
Man, this bike looks good in pictures but in person it blows you away.  You have a bike to ride so take the time to get this one right so you are happy with it for sure.  Thanks again for the hospitality and I hope to get to drink beer(s) in your garage again someday soon, and if you ever feel like riding 1300 miles, you got a place to crash, drink beers etc. 

Mike
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Post by: DreadRock on Jul 26, 2012, 10:42:44
Thanks man and yes the door is always open to you guys ! Glad to see you made the trip home safe and sound mike and one day would love to take a ride up your way ! And thanks for the kind words on the XS and now that i got the FJ running last night have 2 that run . So will be taking the time to get the XS just right and make you guys proud !
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Post by: DreadRock on Aug 06, 2012, 21:38:26
Well i have decided to do a few more things to the XS as i said befor not coming out till spring. Will be adding rear-sets and tack which means a few things. To place the rear-sets right and because i placed the tack where the key was i will be pulling motor back out and if need be back down to just the frame  ::) Funny i just got the wiring back into the frame and just needed the spacers finished and would have been ready to go ! But as i said befor i cant seem to leave things alone and dont think i would be happy with it if i did . Will get pics up with what im up to and also am on the hunt for 13 inch shocks if anyone has a lead on a pair !
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Aug 06, 2012, 22:29:05
I am on board with your rearset decision. Huzzah!
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Post by: DreadRock on Aug 11, 2012, 23:23:08
So spent the night turning the tac from chrome to black and carbon fiber to match the speedo. Also working on moutning key and mounting bracket to relocate it . After i get this done will move onto the rear-sets and motor can go back in .
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/ldldld.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/kskw.jpg)
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Post by: bradj on Aug 11, 2012, 23:29:21
So i welded on some pegs taday
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Aug 11, 2012, 23:30:05
Hell yeah man! Top notch work.
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Post by: DreadRock on Aug 12, 2012, 22:25:12
Thanks justin and thanks brad for hooking me up !
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Post by: Bert Jan on Aug 13, 2012, 10:18:50
Im not sure if you've got your caliper/disk problem sorted already, but what i would do is the following:

Make a alumium spacer ring as wide as it needs to be. Drill 5 holes where the hub-bolts are. Countersink 'em half way thru. Drill 5 more holes in the adapter, between the 5 you've already done, and tread those. Bolt the ring on the hub using the countersunk holes and locknuts. (makes it flush)
After that use 5 bolts and screw the disk on. Presto!

If you dont want to make the alu treaded you could also countersink the disk holes and use allen bolts with heads a little bigger in diameter then the holes. That way you can screw the nuts on without the bolts turning and its stronger as the heads of the allen bolts wont come loose (the threads in alu may...)

Awesome job so far, must be one of the sickest transformations ever. If the bike's ready you should go to the PO and make him feel sorry for neglecting a rough diamond. Would be a kick-ass lesson in life haha

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Post by: DreadRock on Aug 13, 2012, 19:01:01
First thing thats getting done is the back wheel spaceing to get wheel,chain and room for the caliper to clear the mags.Then a 6 inch 1 1/2 thick round stock milled to center disk to caliper and try to get it as close to the stock look. Thanks for food for thought tho and as for the guy that i got the bike off of well think hes in his late 60s. And i see his brother inlaw about every month so i show him and he tells him all about it.  ;D
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/metalspacer.jpg)
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Aug 13, 2012, 22:03:29
Can I ride it when it is done, sir?
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Post by: DreadRock on Aug 13, 2012, 23:17:23
Will trade for a ride on the fizzer   ;)
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Aug 14, 2012, 09:32:16
Consider it a deal.
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Post by: DreadRock on Aug 28, 2012, 12:10:57
Well been messing with a few other bikes lately and now back to the XS . Got my key where i want it and all is good just need to lengthen a few wires. Also got motor back in after wasting time on pulling it for where i thought the key was going to be mounted which didnt work. Also got started on running the wiring harness in the bike i hope for the last time .
  Had a problem with the clutch engageing and disengaing and messing with the kicker . But after messing with it for a few weeks think i got that worked out and found that by adding clip ons and lowering them in the trees some had to much slack in the cable . So my fix was to add a half inch nylon spacer and it did the trick. Took a few trys to get it right but clutch is working smooth now and so is the kicker .....
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/adjust.jpg)
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Post by: Maritime on Aug 28, 2012, 13:04:16
Nice solution there. 
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Post by: Drewski on Aug 28, 2012, 13:58:58
Well, I just spent the last 1 1/2 hours reading this thread from beginning to end. I really shouldn't have taken the time, on a day when I'm up to my &%$# in work to do... but... WOW!! Once I started I just couldn't stop myself!!  :o 8)

Bravo!!  8)  Bravo!!  8)  Well done... very well done Sir!  8)

Can't wait to see this beauty in person some day!   :-*
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Post by: Maritime on Aug 28, 2012, 14:10:24
Drewski this thing is super nice in person.  Scott did everything to the top level of fit and finish I just wish when we saw it it was running and riding, but that is a reason to go back and see it next year ;D
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Post by: DreadRock on Aug 28, 2012, 15:10:45
 :)
 Thank you guys very much for the kind words ! I really wanted to have it ready for MO this year but i wanted it right so didnt make it . But come next year it WILL be there for the DTT in thunder vally meeting i promise !!!!
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Post by: Drewski on Aug 28, 2012, 20:46:01
Gonna hold ya to that Scott!!  :D
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Post by: DreadRock on Aug 28, 2012, 23:29:12
Deal !!!! :)
 
  So tonights plan was to work on running the wiring harness and hide what i can which its more clean then hidden. First time i have ever tried anything like this so im sure it will change some as i go . It looks like a crazy person was running amuck with the wiring but i know where everything is ::)  Had to move the key and only place i found with out to much modding was right above the pods . You can see the back of it in one of the wiring pics . Nice thing about lifting the back of the tank about a 1/4 to 1/2 inch gave placeing the key in a nice spot i think ....
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/LS211.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/LS29.jpg)

 Im keeping everything tagged just in case i miss something and once i feel its all right and working will detag it and do small clean up ! 
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Post by: two-smoker on Aug 29, 2012, 00:01:54
Wow, man, seeing your wiring reminds me how bad I need to get on that myself....
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Post by: DreadRock on Aug 29, 2012, 00:05:14
Captain Morgan Black and Sprite helps alot  :P Thanks guys for helping out ( You Know who you are LOL )
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Post by: two-smoker on Aug 29, 2012, 00:10:15
Lol that could be my problem... All I've got at home is Absynth and strawberry rhubarb  soda... Lol.
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Post by: jakeZ70 on Aug 29, 2012, 00:12:22
Really amazing work. The before pics are some of the worst I've seen. Looked like a retirement home for field mice.
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Post by: Drewski on Aug 29, 2012, 10:32:31
Really amazing work. The before pics are some of the worst I've seen. Looked like a retirement home for field mice.

Ya, agreed!  :)

When I see a project like this, I sometimes wonder if... knowing what you know now... would you do it again?!  :o

I've sworn off beaters that don't run when I buy 'em!!  ;D  (unless they're just for parts!)
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Post by: DreadRock on Aug 29, 2012, 12:03:32
Think i would say NO i wouldnt do it again ( I say that now tho ) but on the other hand i really am glad im doing it . Ive learn alot about what to do and what not to do along the way  and has been well worth the time ,money,learning lessons!!! When i started i thought how hard can it be and learned real qick how hard it is and the time it takes.
   When i got the bike i had some ideas on what i thought would look good but along the way found out that cool ideas dont always work well . And somethings i wouldnt give on and wanted it that way so i made it that way and worked out on most of it . I could of cut alot of corners and said fuck it but i would go nuts if i did i just cant leave things half done and be ok with it .
  I was close ( i thought ) to being done with it till MO ! Well after the guys Mike,Von,Bradj,justin,matt looked it over and told me how nice of work i was doing but needed lil of this and maybe that . Like rear sets ,lil taller shocks all things i was going to do down the road . I thought to myself why not do it now as im waiting on spacers to be made for the wheels ! Which im very happy i did !!!!!!
 So yea glad im doing it and think everyone should at least once in there life !!!  ;)
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Post by: Drewski on Aug 29, 2012, 12:32:01
I agree Scott! Everyone should do one! One might be the limit for most, but it will be worth it for the education you'll receive!  8)
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 02, 2012, 19:13:35
Well spent most of the day working on the wiring and rear-sets. As for the wiring everything is done but the front and rear brake wires. Im not sure how to wire them ,im using a modern front brake with the lil 2 wire trigger and a 2 wire rear pressure tigger. Can anyone help as to what these hook into to get them to work ?

 As for the rear set i made im just messing with a few ideas as im not sure what im thinking i can do or not ! ( THESE ARE PROTOTYPES ) and im just seeing what i MIGHT beable to do !!!!
 Let me know what you guys think : Top bolt would be off the swingarm pivot as a mount , would need to get a bolt or have one made 1 1/2 inchs longer to let 1/2 spacers off of the frame . And on bottom theres a thick brace right infront of the yamaha tuning forks that i can mount bottom to .
  As im thinking this is perfect placing im wondering if haveing a longer swingarm bolt will mess with things ?
  Again THIS IS NOT DONE OR MOUNTED JUST A IDEA AND PROTOYPE !!!!
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/feet6.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/feet4.png)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/feet9.jpg)
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Sep 02, 2012, 21:50:06
That mounting spot would definitely work. Are they in a comfortable position?
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 02, 2012, 23:12:14
Yea there not to bad over the stock set ! They will be just a lil bit lower maybe 1/2 inch but i like where they are . When i make it to the bolt shop see what i can do and if i can find something thats right will look into have one made or off diff bike . Then need to space out from the frame about 1/2 inch and make linkage ! Not sure if ill polish or paint them thats up in the air as of now . Then only thing that will be left is the wheel spacing and brake set up . My buddy that was doing just dont have the time so found another guy to get it done !!!!!! Then tuning and will be SO SO CLOSE to DONE !!!!!! ( yea sure lol )
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Post by: two-smoker on Sep 02, 2012, 23:36:39
I really like the placement. They're a little lower and further forward than what I decided on, which is not a bad thing!
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 03, 2012, 23:14:25
Well Im very happy to say wiring is ALL DONE !!! Brake lights all working and motor runs !!!! Down to just two things and but there most likely two of the bigger things left . One is finish up the brakes and wheel mounting ! Two is to get the rear-sets mounted !!! Third need to go over everything one last time ! Four need to tune it ........... ok yea few more then two but hey its close LOL ;) ;) ;)
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Sep 03, 2012, 23:21:13
Ha. Awesome man!
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 05, 2012, 11:00:34
Did some more work on the rear-sets last night and am going to mount it lil diff then i thought . After talking to BradJ about it he throw me a idea that would help out on keeping the same main bolt on the swingarm ( Thanks Brad ) ! I Made one up just to see if it will work like we talked about with what i had around the shop. Its a lil ugly but think i have the idea down and just need to redo them lil cleaner and lil longer . What was made was a mount that goes on the swingarm bolt like a thick washer and bends out to go very close to the frame but still able to place a nut behind it . Then will mount it at the bottom as a hard point . Think i will be going with a GP shifting set up 1 up 4 down which will be fun LOL !
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/rs4.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/RS1.png)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/rs5.jpg)
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Post by: Drewski on Sep 05, 2012, 16:57:18
Sweet solution!  8)  It's cool to have another unique item on a very unique machine!  8)

Sometimes it really helps to have another set of eyes and someone else to bounce ideas around with.  :)  I know I've really benefited from my buddy Mark and his different perspective.  :D  He's not afraid to challenge my ideas and make me defend them.   :D

Lookin' good!!  ;D
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Post by: bradj on Sep 05, 2012, 17:16:44
Nice
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 25, 2012, 13:33:09
Well still waiting on some parts to be made for the brakes and rearsets ! If i had the skill and the tools it would be done but i dont so have to wait i guess .
  Did some horse tradeing with Von ( Mike ) on some taller rear shocks which worked out great keeps the stock look with about a 1 1/2 diff from the stock ones to the new ones . So thats done and can move on with other things . Had to trade out the mounting from the old shocks to the new ones which turned out NP with a lil love . Took about a hour to get it done but am very happy with the over all look . Will see how they work ( to stiff or to soft ) till i get it on the road so will see ......
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/shocksss.jpg)

 Ok due to the fact photobucket sucks and not letting me bring up pics we are unable to show pics of the new shocks on the bike !!!!
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Post by: MotorbikeBruno on Sep 25, 2012, 14:15:45

 Ok due to the fact photobucket sucks and not letting me bring up pics we are unable to show pics of the new shocks on the bike !!!!

BOOO!!!   ;)

Get em up while you can so I can drool a bit more at your ride....
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 25, 2012, 19:51:46
Ok think i got it here are the pics......
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/shock_zps1b648d99-1.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/shocks_zps40bc14d0.jpg)
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Sep 25, 2012, 19:56:45
Purrdy!
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Post by: cyclefreak on Sep 25, 2012, 21:39:02
Purrdy!
+1
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Post by: hurricane7 on Sep 25, 2012, 23:09:02
Looking good, Dread!

What 's the span on those shocks?
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Post by: BoneDaddy on Sep 26, 2012, 11:30:33
Beautiful. That's all I can say.
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 26, 2012, 11:54:19
Thanks guys !!!
  The shocks are 13 1/2 from eye to eye i believe ! It picked the back up just enough with out going crazy. Think it leveled the bike just right and am really happy with the way it turned out . Talked to the buddy making my wheel and brake parts and think the spacers are all done . So now will be rebuilding the rear caliper then will be able to center the rear disk and get the mounting made up !!!
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Post by: bradj on Sep 26, 2012, 12:51:59
They were the correct choice
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Post by: Maritime on Sep 26, 2012, 12:54:53
Yep, those work well.  Looks killer.
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Post by: VonYinzer on Sep 27, 2012, 22:52:55
Still the only red bike I dig. ;)
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Post by: 3DogNate on Sep 27, 2012, 23:21:02
Looks great...
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Post by: timdaugherty on Sep 27, 2012, 23:31:31
Newbie here. Great looking bike! I notice your rear brake is sitting on your pipe. What are you doing to modify this so it doesn't hit the pipe?
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 28, 2012, 10:52:01
Newbie here. Great looking bike! I notice your rear brake is sitting on your pipe. What are you doing to modify this so it doesn't hit the pipe?

 Right now im just trying to figure out how im planning on mounting it so its just sitting there . Made up the prototype mounts for the rearsets out of plate metal for now to see if i got the spaceing right. Then once i get it ill make them out of Alum !! Everything is just kind of a loss fit at the moment !!!
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Post by: bradj on Sep 28, 2012, 18:10:17
i hope you understand that there is a very very short list of 4 strokes builds i like or even check up on and this is one of them haha i love what this bike has become
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 28, 2012, 23:15:59
HUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM ...........
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/damdam.png)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/damm.png)

 So this will teach me not to be bored and mess with my bike ! My story goes like this : Ive been waiting for 4 or 5 months for a buddy to make some spacers as most know . Its really one of the last things needed done and i feel like im at a stand still and it pisses me off . So i go out in the shop tonight and was thinking on my rearsets and the exhuast and working on rebuilding the rear caliper . Well have to let one of the pistons soak to get it out. So was sitting there and dumb ass me thought i didnt turn it over  after i got the wiring all bottoned up . So turned the key and hit the botton and heard bad things!!!! So looked and sure enough the ignition caver was cracked SHIT WHAT JUST HAPPENED ? Well pulled the cover off and the lil nut that holds the ignition cam on was well not tightened down by me which when i turned it over cracked the cover. Thankfully it didnt hurt anything i can see other then the cover !!!
  So befor i start looking for a new one im going to take a bad thing and see if i can make it cool ! Ive seen guys cut the center out of side covers and place a plastic or other clear or colored acrylic so you can see parts moving when motor is running ! Think BOTM has one on it ? So if that dont work then will find a replacement !! Leason learned i guess ( Which SUCKS LOL )
 
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Post by: cyclefreak on Sep 29, 2012, 00:59:44
If I only had a dollar for every lesson I have learned "the hard way". Keep the posts coming, love this build!
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Post by: sxecafe on Sep 29, 2012, 02:24:24
Those covers are from Frakenstuff. You can find it here:

http://www.fb-stuff.com/index.html
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Post by: bradj on Sep 29, 2012, 04:38:07
I just read your post drunk if what ever broke is something i can weld cqll me
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Post by: two-smoker on Sep 29, 2012, 12:26:06
Awh, man, I just sent my two extra ignition covers in for recycling.... Coulda woulda shoulda...
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 29, 2012, 13:17:07
LOL always works that way doesn't it LOL
 And thanks for the offer brad but I think it's screwed ! So as I'm working today been think of some of the stuff I should of done befor PCing the parts and I was one to always say He'll yea PC over paint ! Nother lesson I learned now as its stoping me from doing the thing I want to add ! SO I've been think I'm going to say fuck it on the rearset ! My thinking is like this : I'm trying to mount rearsets by bolting it together and it's becoming a big pain in the ass ! So I'm going to find a nice set of rearsets and sand off the PC in the area and weld tabs on to place the rearsets right . A nother lesson learned I'm guessing !
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 07, 2012, 23:51:57
 :) Spacers are done for the caliper mount
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/golsd.jpg)
 The top one is the stock one bottom is the new one and came out nice and fits perfect!!! Also rebuilt the rear caliper and painted it . After mounting the rear caliper the wheel spun nice and smooth so no hang ups . Then took a few hours to figure out how to plan on mounting disk and spacing . Here are the caliper and the caliper hung !!
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/gold.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/gols1.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/ongold.jpg)
 And no those wont be the bolts i use on the hang just ones i had that fit for now !
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 07, 2012, 23:58:07
Forgot also pulled the studs out of the rear wheel to mount the spacer going to run bolts counter sunk thou the disk mount and down into the wheel .
 What would be the best type of bolt to lock it all down with and bolts to mount the disk to the mount ? Hardend ? SS ?
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Post by: VonYinzer on Oct 08, 2012, 10:20:29
Wow man. That looks killer. This is definitely one of the sharpest machines DTT has ever seen.
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Post by: Hoosier Daddy on Oct 08, 2012, 19:39:19
I'd use a 10.9 metric grade fastener, "medium carbon steel, quenched and tempered"
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 08, 2012, 23:48:11
Thanks Von for the pressure LOL  ;D
 And thanks Hoosier would you say the same to mount the disk to the new Alum mount spacer ?
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Post by: johnu on Oct 09, 2012, 00:35:48
Looking good as always, what kind of paint did you use on the caliper?  I am going to paint the caliper on my T500.
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Post by: Hoosier Daddy on Oct 09, 2012, 05:16:38
...
 And thanks Hoosier would you say the same to mount the disk to the new Alum mount spacer ?
Yes I would, something stronger than the standard 8.8
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 09, 2012, 10:46:15
Thanks Hoosier !
  Johnu i used a rattle can called Hammer Gold i got from home depo for metals work really well ! Can get the make if you need it when i get home !
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Post by: johnu on Oct 09, 2012, 10:49:50
  Johnu i used a rattle can called Hammer Gold i got from home depo for metals work really well ! Can get the make if you need it when i get home !

Ok great, is it heat resistant?
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 09, 2012, 11:00:31
Can really say 100% but its made to go on wheels , lights poles and other heat spots. Altho we both know calipers get way hotter than those ! Think for me as its going to be a run around bike and not racing it should be ok  ::) But in racing format not sure as they get up there in heat . I think they make a gold just for calipers and can get at most Auto stores or might want to look in on Summit Racings web site !
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 09, 2012, 19:50:41
Few pics of the rear disk spacer being made .....
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/diskspacer.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/diskspacer2.jpg)
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 10, 2012, 15:12:28
Got my right rearset in today off a R6 and the left should be here by end of the week ! Took a break for lunch and just kind of set the setup where i might like it . Will work perfect with one small thing ! Even if i move the setup as far as i can forward it will kind of cover the Tuning forks ( if you dont know what im saying look back in the thread to see ) now its not a bad thing because the tuning forks are just form and the rearsets are function which is more inportant !! Ill get some pics up tonight and let you guys see what im talking about . If it comes down to getting the rearset mounted right and having to cut off the area where the tuning forks are then so be it but lets hope it doesnt come down to that  :-\
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Post by: Drewski on Oct 11, 2012, 13:33:58
This thing just keeps getting better and better!   8)  Well done sir!  :)
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 15, 2012, 17:50:31
Here are the rearsets ill be useing and waiting on the bungs to get them placed . Will see how this works out and might have to repull the motor to get them nicely welded . From what im being told rear disk spacer should be done by end of the week. Also have new fzr pads coming so rear brake is all done just need to find brake line and can air out the rear brakes !
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/rearsett-1.jpg)
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Post by: bradj on Oct 15, 2012, 18:17:00
Good stuff
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Oct 16, 2012, 14:59:55
Progress?
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Post by: VonYinzer on Oct 16, 2012, 17:31:43
Yeah, ya done yet? ;)
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 16, 2012, 22:22:07
Can't work on it im to busy kicking myself in the ass for not making Barber and looking over the fun pics !
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 16, 2012, 22:49:05
That and waiting on parts  ;)
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 17, 2012, 19:16:55
Steel bungs came in today and will say i couldnt make anything as nice with the tools i have so glad i picked them up.
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/bungs.jpg)
 
    Picked up bolts and mounted the bungs on the rearset to see where i might mount them to the frame .
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/bung.jpg)

   Now going to give it a few days to see where and how things will fit then get to work !
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Post by: two-smoker on Oct 17, 2012, 19:37:34
If you plan to keep the kickstarter, make sure you check if it clears the rearsets! Ask me how I know.... Lol.
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Oct 17, 2012, 22:18:16
Nice bungs!
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Post by: bradj on Oct 17, 2012, 22:29:53
Ya gotta want it
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 17, 2012, 23:41:14
Yea smoke been eyeing that going to have closer look . And thanks for noticing justin lol Brad needs to live closer so i know the weld would be right  ;D
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Post by: Drewski on Oct 18, 2012, 21:13:33
Lookin' good!!  8)
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Post by: Hoosier Daddy on Oct 19, 2012, 17:31:30
Nice hardware!
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 21, 2012, 22:40:56
Thank you guys !

    So as we all know with time things change and change again . Well over the weekend figured where the rearset would fit and be comfort. Now the problem is where they need to be the exhaust liked the same place so one had to go . I looked at diff ways and keep coming back to the same spot for the rearsset . So the rearsets won and the exhaust will be redone into a 2 into 1 with a small megaphone or something.
  I gave welding a try and welded up the right bungs and came out good . Not the best looking welds but strong as once i got it done i mounted the right rearset and put all my weight on it and bounced on it and didnt move .
  Also might be going a diff way with the polished parts on the bike will wait to spill the beans when i decide to do it or not  ;)
 
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Post by: VonYinzer on Oct 21, 2012, 22:58:35
Way to be a grizzly. :)
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Oct 22, 2012, 09:52:07
Yep.
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Post by: bradj on Oct 22, 2012, 14:20:32
The force is strong with this one
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 23, 2012, 01:21:12
 ;D
 Well rearsets are welded all up and done minus lil more smoothing in . Now im so far from a good welder but after i got them mounted i climbed on . Stood and jumped on the pegs ( 190lb ) and no problems . The seat padding is to thin so need lil more but isnt to bad sitting on the bike . Now just need to clean it lil more and prime and paint . Speaking of paint i was messing around with the broken side cover . Found a red anodized paint and i have alway love anodized stuff . So throw some on and really like it as its just made to be sprayed over polished parts. And even tho i have a bike with chrome on it never liked chrome on a cafe or sport bike . So im going to hit all the polished parts and lil chrome parts with it .
   Im looking for a 2 into 1 header if anyone comes across one thanks !!
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/rearset2.png)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/rearset6.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/rearset3.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/rearset5.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/rearset7.jpg)




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Post by: two-smoker on Oct 23, 2012, 01:26:22
Looking good! Fyi, make sure you have some kind of opaque cover over that ignition- they use light as a trigger. If light gets in, the triggers get confused.
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 23, 2012, 01:31:36
Thanks  ;D
 Yea was thinking about putting something over it like acrylc red . But talking to brad it hit us it needs to be dark for it to trigger. So i was just seeing of i liked the red on the polished stuff but a new solid one will be there. Thanks for looking out !
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Post by: two-smoker on Oct 23, 2012, 07:22:59
I hear ya- before I fitted the Newtronic I was gonna do something like that myself... I was thinking mesh, like all the other stuff I made. Oh well.... Lol.
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Post by: Maritime on Oct 23, 2012, 09:09:16
Those look OK, I am a bit bummed you are losing the exhaust, it was one of the parts I liked the look of. 2-1 will probably look sexy to though so don't mind me.
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 23, 2012, 10:39:54
Im not ruling out the exhaust just yet  ;) Just trying to think ahead mike as when i was thinking of where to mount the rearset the exhaust i had on wouldnt fit . Didnt have time last night to mess with the putting the exhaust back on and see whats what ! Im going to see if i can run the one i have as of now and hope only have to make small adjustments will see  :)
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 25, 2012, 10:43:18
Almost like they grew there .....
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/rs1-1.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/rs2.jpg)

   Still needs lil clean up on some spots but the paint is dam close to the PC . Next up is messing with the exhaust and painting the rearsets !
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Oct 25, 2012, 11:07:33
Yep. Like they've always been there.
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Post by: Cloyd on Oct 25, 2012, 11:31:23
Damn the bike is looking real good. Can't wait to see it in action. What kind of paint did you use after cleaning up the welds? Just a rattle can or what?
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 25, 2012, 11:35:50
I know this sounds funny but yes it was rattle can and was black caliper paint to boot lol ! I did a sample on a scrape chunk of metal to see then went for it !
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Post by: Drewski on Oct 25, 2012, 14:45:31
Looking good... looking VERY good!!   :D

I like the 2-into-1 idea too!   8)
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 26, 2012, 11:47:32
Thanks guys !
   So last night i spent some time on the exhaust and sub fender . A buddy thats been helping on the bike had a 900ss ducati sub fender he didnt need and we tried to see if it would work . Well after some messing around with it came down to being just to wide . Not done with it yet but might have to look else where !
   The exhaust deal has gone back and forth about what i had set up and a 2 into 1 set up . Well after Mike made me feel like i had cut off Mona Lisas nose ( JK Mike ) LOL ! I throw the exhaust back on and not as bad as i thought but will have to make small blocks to drop it down about 1/2 inch to clear the rearsets ! Now i also slide the pipes forward to see what it would do to the look of the bike !
  What do you guys think : Keep exhaust the way it was just add some spacer to drop it passed the rearset or run the pipes the way they are in the pics and run they along the bottom ?
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/pipesssss.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/pipesss.png)
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Oct 26, 2012, 11:54:44
I like how they look in the pic, man.
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Post by: Mr.B on Oct 26, 2012, 15:18:35
This build is awesome!

I really like what you did with the red graphics on the black rims, separates the rim from the tire nicely!
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Post by: Maritime on Oct 26, 2012, 16:03:01
They look good in the pick but what about adding pipe, bending to go under the frame and give clearance to the rear sets then coming back  out with a kick up after the rear set?

Crappy pick.
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Post by: Maritime on Oct 26, 2012, 16:08:40
Like this looking down from top of bike

Edit:  Ignore the line for a break linkage you are hydralic in the rear so it is not needed
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Post by: VonYinzer on Oct 26, 2012, 16:56:17
Keep 'em short. They look good like that!
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Post by: BCBarker on Oct 26, 2012, 17:31:00
this has got to be one of my favorite builds. nice freakin work.

CRazy idea= what about a buell style exhaust mounted under the bike... or a 2 into 2 with super shorties that split the rear wheel, but are still tucked under the bike?
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Post by: axeugene27 on Oct 26, 2012, 17:47:43
So freakin awesome dreadrock. bike is so slick ashame it's getting done just in time for crappy ohio winter.
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Post by: bradj on Oct 26, 2012, 17:56:40
Just turbo the dam thing already "if your gonna be a bear ect. Ect"
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Post by: DreadRock on Oct 28, 2012, 00:23:47
Again Thank you guys for the comments  :)
   Mike I like the idea and did look at something close to that . Did some looking and that would give it a nice Ducati look . Also talked to a few of you about it and got some great info . And im thinking i going to build my own pipes for really no other reason then to see if i can . Good thing Axe is even tho it went from 80 to 40 over night is ok . The winter will give me more time to botton everything up , waited this long no sense rushing now lol Figure i have a set of XS650 pipes and the header pipes for the 500 are cheap . Need to take a look and make sure there the same i.d and o.d to match up. I could end up with anything thats for sure guess  ;D And Brad a turbo im just trying to get it moving  ;D
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Post by: DreadRock on Nov 02, 2012, 01:43:53
Picked up the rear spacer tonight and it came out great . Got it fitted up on the wheel nicely but the bolts i picked up from a fastener shop is A: its standered B:pitch. Which in part is  my fault for not looking closer but i know what i asked for  :o  After i got it on the bike tested fitted the caliper and ran into a small problem the inside back of the mount is the bottom back side of the caliper touches just ever so lightly . But better bigger to cut down then to small and have to remake  ;D
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/space4.png)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/space2.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/space3.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/space5.jpg)
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Post by: DreadRock on Nov 02, 2012, 01:45:59
Forgot its just the O.D that will need turned down !
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Post by: MJPriceisright on Nov 02, 2012, 01:53:01
awesome bike man, love the black and red accent, reminds me of my R1 raven with the moto gp red ring around the rim. 
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Nov 02, 2012, 21:32:35
Righteous.
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Post by: MickyC on Nov 03, 2012, 19:38:28
once again mate wicked build. how heavy will that spacer be will it effect rotation etc at all i have no idea about weights at all but will it change the balance or anything? cant wait to see her done and you must through up a vid of her flying.
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Post by: DreadRock on Nov 03, 2012, 23:57:01
Thanks guys !
  Not sure of the diff but i know they seem to be real close to the point it shouldnt be a problem ! Going to be pulling it off to have the back trimed down so will check it out then and see the diff  ;D
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Post by: two-smoker on Nov 04, 2012, 02:07:12
That puppy has to be at least a pound lighter than the stock disc.... Plus it's so close to the centerline of the wheel. My guess is zero effect on balance, but a meaningful step in the right direction regarding unsprung weight.
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Post by: DreadRock on Nov 07, 2012, 10:50:46
Just a small update : Got the rearset all done and painted ! Did mess with the exhaust and not throwing out the idea of making a 2 into 1 but as of now really liking where the pipes are ! Made new hangers for them out of Alum and have to i like it ! Will get pics of the Exhaust once its all buttoned up this weekend !
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/rear22.jpg)
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Post by: VonYinzer on Nov 07, 2012, 11:47:13
Looks great Scott!!!!
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Post by: Drewski on Nov 07, 2012, 12:05:46
Man, that's cool!  8)
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Post by: hmenzies on Nov 07, 2012, 12:07:29
You have completely turned that bike around. It is no longer destined for the junk yard. Good job dude!
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Post by: DreadRock on Nov 07, 2012, 23:29:33
Forgot to post these of what i did to the motor . I wasnt sure if i liked it or not but has grown on me  ;D
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/asssa.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/aaaaaaa.png)
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Post by: two-smoker on Nov 08, 2012, 08:29:01
Hmm. I like it!
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Post by: DreadRock on Nov 12, 2012, 11:43:03
Did some riding this weekend with some of the Cleve guys . Still had some time to finish up the exhaust and make new mounts made up . Picked up a spare XS500c motor and stock headers from mike and matt which will be made into my 2into1 exhaust but for now going to run it like this.....
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/aaaddddd.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/aaasssaa.png)
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Nov 12, 2012, 11:44:29
Fuck and Yes!
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Post by: pr design on Nov 12, 2012, 12:09:42
The red accents are SWEET.  Can't wait to see this a a finished project.
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Post by: john83 on Nov 12, 2012, 17:39:35
So much attention to detail here man. Really gorgeous.
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Post by: Wahoo650 on Nov 12, 2012, 19:13:35
Don't know how I haven't noticed your build before, but I'm watching it now!  Cant wait to see this in person.  My first street bike was a purple 74.  Loved it.

Matt
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Post by: VonYinzer on Nov 12, 2012, 19:40:51
Don't know how I haven't noticed your build before, but I'm watching it now!  Cant wait to see this in person.  My first street bike was a purple 74.  Loved it.

Matt

Its even better in person. The detail and care put into the bike are amazing.
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Post by: bradj on Nov 12, 2012, 20:03:45
Rain man attention to detail
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Post by: DreadRock on Nov 13, 2012, 10:45:33
Definitely Definitely thanks guys ..... 246 tooth picks Definitely 246........
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Post by: BoneDaddy on Nov 14, 2012, 19:24:56
Your build never fails to make me jealous. Beautiful work.
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Post by: BigRedButton on Nov 15, 2012, 05:29:38
Diggin' the mags.
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Post by: DreadRock on Nov 18, 2012, 19:52:28
Spent time in the shop over the weekend and changed a few things. After getting the rear caliper on which is gold and steping back the red just wasnt doing it . So off it came and all repolished and mounted back up .
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/a44-1.jpg)

I also polished up the new rear spacer and got it mounted !
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/a45.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/asda.jpg)
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Post by: bradj on Nov 19, 2012, 02:56:58
tic... tic... tic... tic...     mid ohio will not wait haha looking good man
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Post by: VonYinzer on Nov 19, 2012, 13:17:50
So nice Scott. All across the board. Just classy.
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Post by: Wahoo650 on Nov 19, 2012, 13:23:50
Ditto.  Can't wait to see it this spring.

Matt
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Post by: DreadRock on Nov 20, 2012, 10:36:26
Not alot going on as im waiting on a SV650 front caliper and its almost turkey day . So i took the time and made a shock compress to pull the shocks apart. I did it because i wanted to clean them and take the top cover off the shocks. After looking online i came up with this .... Not perfect but worked perfect for what i needed....
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/shockdecom.jpg)
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Post by: DreadRock on Nov 23, 2012, 10:57:38
Well minus 2 things the back brake is done now onto the front ! Picked up a SV650 caliper for the front and have to say its fit the bill . Everything in the picks are just kinda bolted on and need to be centered and hanger,space made . Just have it hanging there to look at fit and that the caliper wont hit the mags . First of the week will start on that stuff and by the look of it the caliper will just need painting as its in good working order .....
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/abss.png)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/abs.jpg)
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Post by: Pattheswede on Nov 28, 2012, 17:02:48
Well, haven't read every post, but just looking att the pics make me wounder if I will go for bobbing mine XS. Your bike look amazing, actually didn't think some could build such a good looking cafe racer out of a xs 500!
Great work man!
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Post by: DreadRock on Nov 28, 2012, 17:57:34
Thanks everyone !

Well, haven't read every post, but just looking att the pics make me wounder if I will go for bobbing mine XS. Your bike look amazing, actually didn't think some could build such a good looking cafe racer out of a xs 500!
Great work man!

 After seeing your metal skill and wishing i had them really looking forward to that build and what you do with it !
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Post by: Maritime on Nov 28, 2012, 20:22:14
Yes. Should be riding this summer for sure. 

Sent from my MB525 using Tapatalk 2
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Post by: DreadRock on Dec 03, 2012, 20:48:40
Need to do some tuning as its getting way to much air ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw97bhWP6dw&feature=player_embedded
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Post by: DreadRock on Dec 04, 2012, 11:39:32
Need to do some adjusting but its a runner !!!!
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Post by: Maritime on Dec 04, 2012, 11:48:48
Yessir, that always is a good day!
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Post by: CrescentSon on Dec 04, 2012, 12:00:27
Yay!!!!
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Post by: Shred_McGnar on Dec 04, 2012, 14:18:50
That is one CLEAN ride man. Really nice!
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Post by: two-smoker on Dec 04, 2012, 16:00:02
Awesome!
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Post by: VonYinzer on Dec 04, 2012, 16:14:28
Fuck yeah buddy!!!!












Now turbo charge it!
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Post by: two-smoker on Dec 04, 2012, 16:16:24
Fuck yeah buddy!!!!












Now turbo charge it!
Yeeeeaaaahhhhhh......
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Dec 04, 2012, 17:23:13
Fuck yeah buddy!!!!












Now turbo charge it!

 LOL thank guys and can you few on the turbo so i can get what i have running good !! i know Brad is putting you up too it LOL LOL !!!

Yeeeeaaaahhhhhh......
Thank you sir now its your turn to get another 500 up and kicking !!!
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Post by: two-smoker on Dec 04, 2012, 18:28:35
Thank you sir now its your turn to get another 500 up and kicking !!!
Oh, I assure you, that wheel is in motion! I WILL be riding to Elkhart Lake for the AHRMA races in June!
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Post by: DreadRock on Dec 06, 2012, 10:50:27
Small update on the front brake set up . Got a few things worked out with the machinist and looks like should be done soon. Also going to have back of the caliper shaved down about 1/8 to make sure theres more then enough room from the mags. Will get pics up as soon as i get the parts in my hands !!
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Post by: DreadRock on Dec 06, 2012, 23:00:13
All i can say is its a good start as im one step closer to getting front brake done . Spacer is done just needs polished and caliper,disk need painted . Also had a 1/8 milled off the back off the caliper to add lil more space . Next need to get the caliper mount bolted up and then measure where the caliper will be centered . Then have the mount finished . Here are the parts....
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/xscaliper.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/xsspacerr.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/xsspacer1.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/xsfitspacer.jpg)
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Post by: bradj on Dec 07, 2012, 00:56:39
My god haha your machinist friend has to hate to hear the phone ring looks great man cant wait to see it in person
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Dec 07, 2012, 08:49:54
Righteous!
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Post by: DreadRock on Dec 07, 2012, 10:32:45
My god haha your machinist friend has to hate to hear the phone ring looks great man cant wait to seee it in person

 Believe it or not but the guy is way cool .Wed when i took off work to work on the bikes he called me and want to see and measure the parts he was sitting in my drive way lol He took the caliper,disk and measurments and said he would get back to me . So last night he showed up at my shop with parts in hand . He is a bike nut like us and has a few including a Yam 90cc twin smoker in perfect shape. Everytime i offer to pay him for something he tells me no its all good i like doing this shit lol So when the job is done hes getting a bottle of what ever he wants  ;D

Brad when you did your front caliper set up did you make the caliper mount first then get the cailper centered ? Or which order did you fit stuff ?
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Post by: bradj on Dec 07, 2012, 10:55:03
I pushed the rotor as close to the fork leg as i could and then made the caliper fit and clear the spokes but with mags you can skip that pain in the ass part
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... The Sock Monkey
Post by: bowman41 on Dec 07, 2012, 12:57:31
Just thought I would let you know that your thread is responsible for nothing getting accomplished at work today. Awesome build. A very good example of what can be accomplished and brought back to life
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Post by: vw121 on Dec 07, 2012, 13:08:35
I'm impressed
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Post by: DreadRock on Dec 10, 2012, 00:56:08
Just thought I would let you know that your thread is responsible for nothing getting accomplished at work today. Awesome build. A very good example of what can be accomplished and brought back to life

 LOL sorry  ;)

I'm impressed

Thanks !

 Well minus 2 bolts and brake line fronts done and everything came out great . Next will be looking for braided lines and go over all bolts,nuts ,cotter pin,wire tie zip tie and wire .........
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/FRONTDOE.jpg)
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Post by: Pattheswede on Dec 10, 2012, 04:19:35
That frontwheel looks great!
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Post by: rundown on Dec 10, 2012, 10:15:04
Truly a magnificent build.  I'm working on a XS 500 as well, but that is where any comparison would have to end.  Awe inspiring.
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Post by: USMCRIDER on Dec 14, 2012, 11:42:17
WOW, I haven't been on here in a while and missed a lot on this build. All I can say is it has turned out amazing. I will definately reference your work if I ever get around to doing anything to my 400. Great work!
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Post by: DreadRock on Dec 27, 2012, 17:16:42
Thanks guys means alot !
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Post by: rundown on Dec 30, 2012, 20:09:30

When I get discourage ed with my build, I like to look at this and see what can be done with a bike so much further gone than mine.  Very inspirational, hope the New Year is good to you and your build.
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Post by: pr design on Dec 31, 2012, 13:38:15
really good to get time to catch up with your build. 
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Post by: DreadRock on Jan 21, 2013, 12:22:38
  Not much to up date just doing few small things that need done as im saving up for brake lines. So i needed to find or build a rear brake arm as using a RD400 swinger and fzr brake set up . I looked at the one off my FJ but to short and looked at other ones that just didnt fit. Made a few up but just didnt trust them or they didnt go well with the over all look of the bike . So after looking and think said F it ill build one and took a SS bar and started triming came out good im thinking and should do the job . If anyone sees a problem please let me know or if they can think of a better way would be cool ....

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/XSbar.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/xsbar2.jpg)

I did get it painted black just didnt get a pic !!!
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Post by: pr design on Jan 23, 2013, 10:21:02
Does that take weight off the bike using the bar stock instead of the tube style original or just and aesthetic thing? How is the side to side flex on that when it is attached? Only point of the tube style would be rigidity I would think.  Just curious.
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Post by: DreadRock on Jan 23, 2013, 11:55:10
Does that take weight off the bike using the bar stock instead of the tube style original or just and aesthetic thing? How is the side to side flex on that when it is attached? Only point of the tube style would be rigidity I would think.  Just curious.

To tell you the truth I have no idea lol the stock one off the bike is a thinner bar out of steel . The SS bar is lil thicker then stock and its what I had laying around the shop . And more I mess with it the more I'm not liking it . As for flex there is some and just doesn't sit well with me but as of tonight will have heat out in the shop and over the weekend found some round stock with a few other parts I think I can make a round bar stay ! Going to model it after the one on my FJ and see how that works out !!!
  Thanks for bring it up as it got me thinking  what's wrong with the one I have !!!!
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Post by: two-smoker on Jan 23, 2013, 19:07:50
My old Honda had an aluminum I-beam with slots milled into it... Just an idea...
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Post by: DesmoBro on Jan 23, 2013, 20:35:14
Did some riding this weekend with some of the Cleve guys . Still had some time to finish up the exhaust and make new mounts made up . Picked up a spare XS500c motor and stock headers from mike and matt which will be made into my 2into1 exhaust but for now going to run it like this.....
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/aaaddddd.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/aaasssaa.png)


she's a real beaut nice work
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Post by: DreadRock on Feb 11, 2013, 23:38:27
  After talking to a memeber here about my rear brake stay bar i felt lil better . So over the weekend i Drilled some speed holes along it . Its SS so not the funist stuff to drill thru but started with a small bit then worked my way up  ;D
   

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/bar_zps208356f8.jpg)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/bar1_zps83da5331.jpg)
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Post by: two-smoker on Feb 11, 2013, 23:58:26
Sweet!
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Post by: johnu on Feb 12, 2013, 01:14:33
Bikes looking great!  Top notch build.
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Feb 12, 2013, 01:47:45
Yes sir. Beautiful.
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Post by: Maritime on Feb 12, 2013, 10:26:09
Not too far off from riding it now. TOo bad there is still white stuff everywhere
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Post by: DreadRock on Feb 12, 2013, 12:33:17
Yea very very close mike just going thru everything lil at a time  just to double check  and make sure didnt miss anything . Next up will be routeing the brake lines and see what banjos i need and length of the lines !
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Post by: VonYinzer on Feb 12, 2013, 19:03:28
Great stuff Scott. I love this bike. Can't wait to see it tearing up the streets!
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Post by: MotorbikeBruno on Feb 12, 2013, 20:13:27
One hell of a cool ride man.  She'll be fun when the snow melts!  ;)
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Post by: Ringo on Feb 24, 2013, 01:09:12
+1  Very clean, looks to be a fun ride!
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Post by: bradj on Feb 24, 2013, 01:42:38
I passed out on a shop floor next to that bike
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Post by: DreadRock on Feb 25, 2013, 12:06:42
And if i can find that pic i would for sure post it but cant find it GRRRRR.......

    Well messed with the carbs lil over the weekend and for some reason the petcocks seem stuck ! Turned them to on and just got lil drip of fuel and thats not good ! So think they will have to be pulled back off and looked at shouldnt be to big a deal as there new ! But have to get fuel to the carbs befor i can tune anything  ::)

 Would like to thank Axeugene27 on nominating the Monkey for BOTM ! I unfortunately had to decline under the fact its not done but close and hope when done will make it up there !!!
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Post by: Ringo on Feb 25, 2013, 13:02:33
And if i can find that pic i would for sure post it but cant find it GRRRRR.......

Pleeeaaase find that pic ;D
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Feb 25, 2013, 13:05:42
I have one of Yinzer passed out in the shop, but not Brad.
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Post by: DreadRock on Feb 25, 2013, 13:16:00
Yea i have doc but cant find brad ill hunt for it hope i didnt lose it when my phone took a dump  :'(

    So was messing with the petcocks and i know the VMs are non vac and so are the petcocks. I had the turn down nipples on it and switched back to the stright ones. When i turn to on with out hooking the fuel line to the carb i get all the gas i want . Then i run the line to the carb i get nothing  :'(  Am i missing something ?
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Post by: DreadRock on Feb 25, 2013, 13:47:35
Pleeeaaase find that pic ;D

   For your viewing enjoyment ( sorry Brad )

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/BadBrad_zpsea37653a.jpg)
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Post by: Ringo on Feb 25, 2013, 15:11:42
Hah, I was hoping for face-down train wreck style.  Looks almost comfortable.
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Post by: Captmilk76 on Feb 25, 2013, 15:28:36
  After talking to a memeber here about my rear brake stay bar i felt lil better . So over the weekend i Drilled some speed holes along it . Its SS so not the funist stuff to drill thru but started with a small bit then worked my way up  ;D

Throw some red paint in the speed holes!!
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Post by: VonYinzer on Feb 25, 2013, 16:12:28
Hah, I was hoping for face-down train wreck style.  Looks almost comfortable.

Oh there was no comfort there... That pic was taken shortly after Brad decided to drunken arm wrestle my 275lb ex semi pro hockey player brother in law. To his credit, Brad won. He still can't use his arm 7 months later, but he deserves that for trying to hit me with a samurai sword. That was a good night. Haha...
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Post by: Ringo on Feb 25, 2013, 16:44:32
That sounds like a great night.
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Post by: gk45011 on Feb 25, 2013, 17:02:32
Dread,
 Have you removed the fuel cap to see if the vent isn't working correctly? Just a thought.

Gary
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Post by: bradj on Feb 25, 2013, 17:46:35
Oh there was no comfort there... That pic was taken shortly after Brad decided to drunken arm wrestle my 275lb ex semi pro hockey player brother in law. To his credit, Brad won. He still can't use his arm 7 months later, but he deserves that for trying to hit me with a samurai sword. That was a good night. Haha...
matts arm hurt just as long
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Post by: DreadRock on Feb 25, 2013, 17:48:18
Yes woke up walked outside and there was blood on the floor but everyone was still breathing so poured me some coffee .......

    Yea GK one of the first things i tried as the FJ does samething time from time ! After talking to Kop and Bow thing its a stuck float but seems ok . Got the bike fired back up and running but goes fuel hungry after a min or two. Took a small flat head and where fuel line hooks to the petcock just wiggled it under line to let air in and fills line right back up then repeat ! Going to do some reading and have to be missing something small just not sure what lol
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Post by: bradj on Feb 25, 2013, 18:09:36
This year will be different hahaha
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Post by: gk45011 on Feb 25, 2013, 22:58:57
 Good deal. Are they vented bowls on the carbs? Overflow tube pinched, clogged? Ok I am out of obvious ideas you probably already checked.LOL

 Let the carb retarded (such as myself) in on the secret when you figure it out. I am sure it will save may ages of greif sooner or later.

Bike is looking awsome, Can't wait for the start up vid and glamor shots.

Gary
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Post by: Wahoo650 on Feb 26, 2013, 07:33:31
Good deal. Are they vented bowls on the carbs? Overflow tube pinched, clogged? Ok I am out of obvious ideas you probably already checked.LOL

 Let the carb retarded (such as myself) in on the secret when you figure it out. I am sure it will save may ages of greif sooner or later.

Bike is looking awsome, Can't wait for the start up vid and glamor shots.

Gary

Bowl vents were my next guess too.  Bike looks awesome Scott, hope to see it soon!

Matt
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Post by: DreadRock on Feb 26, 2013, 12:06:31
Thanks guys im to the point of haveing to learn something new with carb tuning ! Last night got the monkey fired back up and idleing at 1g so now that i got that need to see about jetting . Did get the fuel lines filled and seemed t
o stay that was when running . After i was done for the night i refilled them and then look at them this morning and they where drained so need to do some more reading and asking what am i missing ! Im sure ill get it worked out just a new learning experience thats all LOL
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Post by: bowman41 on Feb 26, 2013, 14:56:45
where oh where is all the fuel going? Is it leaking out of the overflow?
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Post by: MotorbikeBruno on Feb 26, 2013, 15:17:16
Thanks guys im to the point of haveing to learn something new with carb tuning ! Last night got the monkey fired back up and idleing at 1g so now that i got that need to see about jetting . Did get the fuel lines filled and seemed t
o stay that was when running . After i was done for the night i refilled them and then look at them this morning and they where drained so need to do some more reading and asking what am i missing ! Im sure ill get it worked out just a new learning experience thats all LOL

Double check float heights (i'm sure you did this already) and CHECK YOUR OIL LEVEL to make sure it's not going out the top (through main jet passage) and down into the cylinders....ask me how I learned this one....
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Post by: DreadRock on Feb 26, 2013, 15:36:30
where oh where is all the fuel going? Is it leaking out of the overflow?


 Yes did see some but only a drip of two !

Double check float heights (i'm sure you did this already) and CHECK YOUR OIL LEVEL to make sure it's not going out the top (through main jet passage) and down into the cylinders....ask me how I learned this one....


  I didnt get to the float height which was the next step. And didnt even think about it running down to the oil. But it has to go someplace right ? Ran out of time yesterday but will looking into it ASAP as i cant see the bowls holding that much fuel and not leaking out a overflow ! If it is leaking thru the main passage  whats the fixs ? or is the float height the fix ?
 
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Post by: Maritime on Feb 26, 2013, 15:47:15
Float height should stop it as it shuts fuel off before it gets high enough to go through the intakes.  Good luck, this part is alway a PITA.
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Post by: bradj on Feb 26, 2013, 16:17:05
This step is where i always fuck up pretty engine paint with gas
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Post by: bowman41 on Feb 26, 2013, 16:25:09
This step is where i always fuck up pretty engine paint with gas

^+1 Glad I'm not the only one that made a mess of things.

Dread an easy way to check float height is to hook a clear hose up to the bowl drain plug, lift the open end of the hose up next to the carb. This should give you an idea of the height of the fuel level in your bowls....
 :-X Atleast thats how I think it works... ha
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Post by: DreadRock on Feb 26, 2013, 16:51:16
This step is where i always fuck up pretty engine paint with gas

 Well not sure if i fucked up the paint but about a bowl full was on the motor last night and seemed to hold up ! If not well guess will have to pull the motor and redo it LOL

  Yea Bowman Kop did say something to that effect and have a few leads on what to look for as i been reading and reading on how to tune and adjust carbs. Seems to me its just out of tune and not set up right so the plan is to slowly start to trouble shot and get everything adjust as it should be then move on from there !!!
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Post by: MotorbikeBruno on Feb 26, 2013, 17:32:11
Did you replace the float needles in these (sorry if you answered that before)  if not, a good trick is to take brasso or toothpaste and an cotton ear swab and spin it (one direction is best) using your hand.  It polishes out the float valves to give new contact area on worn needles.  Can be used in a pinch to figure out if sealing is your problem....then go get new float needles  :P

I hope you get this figured out quickly!  And I'm with Bradj...I ALWAYS fuck up the paint this way or some other way...haha
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: two-smoker on Feb 26, 2013, 18:07:17
Yeah, man, take a look at those carbs... The set I bought initially came with two different pilots and two different mains, even though they were supposed to be "pre-jetted". No telling if something came screwed up right out of the box.
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Post by: DreadRock on Feb 26, 2013, 18:56:19
Well they are new carbs but again we all know that dont always add up to being right so ill pull both off and have a look at them ! Thanks guys for the help and will let you know what i find !!!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: kopcicle on Feb 27, 2013, 02:44:18
http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=23173.msg246118#msg246118 (http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=23173.msg246118#msg246118)

any questions ? PM a ph# and I'll bore you to tears ....

~kop
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Post by: DreadRock on Feb 27, 2013, 11:36:49
PM sent sir and thanks for the info !

    Didnt have time to mess with the carbs to much last night but did check the oil and pulled the carbs off ! When i looked at the oil it smelled like gas and was to thin and clear for fresh or old oil . So i pulled the carbs and will look them over when i have time this week. Think i need to find a base line as a starting point so i know which way to adjust ?
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Post by: DreadRock on Feb 27, 2013, 11:49:42
http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=23173.msg246118#msg246118 (http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=23173.msg246118#msg246118)


~kop

 After reading this thread im thinking it more the floats then anything even tho i will still go over the whole carb
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Mar 03, 2013, 12:18:21
Drain oil and add fresh but have a Q : would to tight of throttle cables cause this issue ? I know there needs to be lil play at the throttle just trying to eliminate everything to find a cause !
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Post by: MotorbikeBruno on Mar 03, 2013, 13:09:01
Well you do want a few mm of play, and make sure it's not being pulled when the bars are full to the right and left. 
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Post by: DreadRock on Mar 03, 2013, 18:32:57
With a two into one cable I should adjust from the throttle down to the carbs or other way around ?
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Post by: two-smoker on Mar 03, 2013, 18:34:58
I adjust starting at the throttle. Easier to get the cables equal length that way- ie. Both carbs have the same pull.
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Post by: DreadRock on Mar 03, 2013, 18:55:01
Thanks guys been looking on the makuni site and the manual for my carbs . Have one carb apart and have found the float level for a starting point . Wish it was a lil more about how to tune them but will get it. !
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Post by: two-smoker on Mar 03, 2013, 19:03:31
Well, thankfully, Mikunis are pretty easy. Main jet, pilot jet, needle and needle jet. Float height. Slide cutaway if you've got a need. I just do plug chops until I get it. Worked pretty well on my GT380.
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Post by: MotorbikeBruno on Mar 04, 2013, 14:23:46
Another thing is to DOUBLE CHECK that the slides are going up together and closing all the way (well, as far as the are supposed to of course)  I had a buddy that had one sticking for some reason on his XS 650.  I remember there was an issue with how the splitter connection was made, it wasn't smooth inside and caught on itself here and there. Just another thing to rule out!  ;)
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Post by: DreadRock on Mar 04, 2013, 15:28:23
   I checked off cables other then adjusting them as carbs still off bike . And the petcocks are checkhis wronged off as i just drained the tank of gas that was in it to be replaced with fresh gas . Looked over the float level and its asking in inchs   " .86 to .94 " from the lip of the carb body so where is a good place to start .86 or someplace between ?
 
    Also when i pulled the bowls off found that one carb looks clean and other looks tarnished so my thinking is the clean one keep fuel in it and other would drain out or is this wrong thinking ? The bottom of the tarnished bowl was yellowish film which came right off with cleaner . But what does this tell me ?
 
 (http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/Badcarb_zpsf7a50785.jpg)

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Post by: Maritime on Mar 04, 2013, 15:41:21
I would agree with your theory that the dirty carb was draining, the residue was drying up with the air vrs the side full of fuel having no air to cause it to varnish. so that side had a stuck float keeping fuel off maybe?  Is the float hanging up and keeping the valve closed on that carb?
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Post by: DreadRock on Mar 13, 2013, 21:36:45
So I've cleaned the carbs out and made sure nothing was gummed up. Was reading a thread here http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=16745.0 very good for newbies like myself . So what I've done is floats are good but changed jet needle one space up as I'm thinking its getting to much fuel . Now please correct me if I read it wrong . Also after Bruno said about both slides moving together once I remounted the carbs I looked . LOL well I never looked when I started the bike up and looking now right one moves almost to half befor left one does oops ! So the plan now is to get them adjusted right this time and fresh oil and start it back up and see where I'm at !!!
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Mar 14, 2013, 08:40:19
One step at a time, sir.
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Post by: Maritime on Mar 14, 2013, 08:55:34
Well with the slides so far out of sync I think you may have found the reason for your issues.
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Post by: MotorbikeBruno on Mar 14, 2013, 10:17:12
Yup!  I helped a buddy of mine on his XS650 when he got some new carbs. Same thing happened!  Glad you found your "main" issue.  Hopefully that's all the trouble you will have!   8)
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Post by: DreadRock on Mar 14, 2013, 10:52:08
Im hopin thats it if you could bruno how did you guys fix it ? I messed with last night and got them closer but not perfect as i ran out of adjustment on the cables !
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Post by: MotorbikeBruno on Mar 14, 2013, 13:05:35
I think there was something with the mechanism where both carb cables come in.  It was dragging inside due to faulty machining work. I think it would be called the Universal 2 into 1 throttle cable or something alon those lines  It was a little while back, I'll see if I can bug him. Hopefully his mind is better at remembering than mine!  Also, I think someone on here (maybe PJ?) mentioned that it does matter how you've routed your throttle cable lines.  Double check that.
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Post by: DreadRock on Mar 14, 2013, 15:21:27
That's the plan tonight is check the route of the cables ! Talked to BradJ earlier today and we where thinking the same thing ! Thanks for the help guys will let you know what happens  ;D
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Post by: DreadRock on Mar 19, 2013, 12:27:50
Spent some time on the XS mostly working on the throttle cables . Did get the carbs spot on as far as moving at the same time and height but when i would adjust the slack out of the throttle itself leavening about a 1/4 of play the carbs would jump out of sync ? Did everything from starting from the carbs and working to the throttle to going from the throttle down to the carbs !! Also took cables off to see if its something with it  but all seemed fine . Both cables are the same length and move smoothly but seems once its all together and tighten down its off a lil just cant seem to get it working altogether but will figure it out sooner or later ! Only other thing i can think of is the throttle houseing is off or the wrong one so next plan is to switch to a diff one i have and see if thats it !!!!

 Also havent had much time do to the fact of this lil critter in my shop :
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/neeka_zpsb087ee5d.jpg)
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Post by: MotorbikeBruno on Mar 19, 2013, 12:43:38
AH! You just kickstarted my brain again!  I remember something about OVER TIGHTENING a point and that caused it to bind/have issues.  He couldn't remember either, so we are out of luck there  :-\

I think your course of action sounds about right though, it never hurts to have extras of the things you are ordering too :)
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Mar 26, 2013, 11:15:04
Spent more time on the carb and throttle problem and think i got it fixed  ;D After racking my brain i pulled the n cable apart it seems one is just a hair longer then the other so fixed that and everthing seems good to go . Still has lil more play in it then i like but both carbs are nice and even so will see.
 Next im putting lil money away ever day with out the wife knowing ( SHHHHH ) to save up for  SS brake lines . Have everthing set to finish this monkey on my back and move on to next the LS !
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Post by: VonYinzer on Mar 26, 2013, 11:24:49
Right on Scott. Cute pup.
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Mar 26, 2013, 21:54:33
Huzzah!
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Post by: Maritime on Mar 27, 2013, 08:37:39
Hurray, you'll be riding her soon.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Apr 06, 2013, 09:12:28
Need lil help with brake lines guys ! Need to find a nice set of braided custom lines anyone have luck with one company or another ? Also when measuring out the lines do you measure just the lines or do you add in the banjo also ? Thanks for the help all !!!!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: two-smoker on Apr 06, 2013, 09:42:28
I've always had good luck with Goodridge lines, they usually have the nice clear plastic sheathing. Of course, I scrounge  a lot, so I tend to mix brands. You do want to measure the line and banjos together, a little extra (yes, a LITTLE) won't hurt. Make sure you get the right angles on the ends, too. Ie; straight, 90, 30, whatever.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: pr design on Apr 06, 2013, 19:43:49
Cute little fuzzy buddy.  What did you name that little guy? 
Sounds like the sock monkey will be getting its shoes on the road soon.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: MakiMoto on Apr 18, 2013, 13:33:28
My mind is blown, best turnaround i've seen on a xs500 so far.

I like just about everything about this project, especially the brakes, contemplating doing an upgrade on mine as well, i heard most ducati discs will fit.

Cant wait to get to the point youre at now, it must feel amazing!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Apr 21, 2013, 10:47:37
Thank you sir !

 As most know been waiting and saving for brake lines well I have them !!!! I picked up a set from Speigler SS custom lines and banjo bolts . Didn't think would get them in two days but came home Fri and there they where . Good guys to deal with and very nice product and well build .
 I went with chrome banjos , smoke covering and black bolts . Now will say this was the first set of custom lines  ive ordered and like everything on the bike was some work and thinking on what to do. I checked and rechecked but was worried I was doing something wrong. So on the back I knew I was close and stuck with 27 inchs and moved to the front and came up with 27 also but was thinking I needed lil wiggle room up front for travel ! So went with 28 inchs and it worked out well !
   So been working on the back first and ran into some very small problems but nothing that I cant take care of . One was the the travel of the brake arm as if it was to far down would stop on the pipe. I think I have a plan for that and it took me most of the night and a few mind adjustments LOL But by the end of the night I had working back brake HELLL YEAA !!!!!!!
 Going to spend the day working on the  front as I need to build a bracket to hold brake line in a safe spot and not rub on anything ! Then just need a few bolts , fuel filters , fuel line and its ON !!!
  My Goal is to try and get it out of the shop and on the road this week !!!!!!!!!!

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(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/lines3_zpsf0d1217b.jpg) (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/dreadrock1/media/lines3_zpsf0d1217b.jpg.html)
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Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: MotorbikeBruno on Apr 21, 2013, 12:28:22
Oh HELL YEAH!!  I love this project.  Line looks killer.  Great work!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: VonYinzer on Apr 21, 2013, 12:36:29
Great work Scott. She'll be on the road in no time.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Apr 22, 2013, 10:13:58
Thanks Guys  :)

   Spent all day in the shop working on front brake and few other small things ! Took some time but got front bleed and if im not carefull and only use one or two fingers could be kissing the front wheel LOL
   Need to find some nice fuel filters and lines and go over everything !
 
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 Some Sun because it was there !!!!!

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Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Maritime on Apr 22, 2013, 11:10:28
Sweet
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: gk45011 on Apr 22, 2013, 11:47:27
Gorgeous build. Waiting for the running/ride video.

Gary
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Post by: Cloyd on Apr 22, 2013, 14:58:43
I bet you are so ready to ride after how much work you have put in. Let her rip...
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: axeugene27 on Apr 26, 2013, 14:57:09
Really does look wicked awesome scott. Nice work can't wait to see it in person
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Wahoo650 on Apr 28, 2013, 11:51:14
Have to have a meet up & ride when she's done.  Can't wait to hear/see her on the road.  TX500 was my first street bike, a long, long time ago...
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: o1marc on Apr 28, 2013, 13:38:55
Really nice build. How hard is that back caliper to bleed with the bleed screw facing down?
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: two-smoker on Apr 28, 2013, 13:45:24
I would think you bleed it with the nipple facing up, before you bolt it on. That's my take.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Apr 28, 2013, 21:11:51
Smoke is right on !!! Wasn't to bad to bleed really ran two lines to a Y then one down in a cup of brake oil . Once I got oil there I pulled the caliper off and bleed it to help get air out faster . The rear on my victory is the same and have 0 problem with it !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: jakeschmidt on May 02, 2013, 23:00:19
nice build. looks better than a new bike off the showroom floor, job well done.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Maritime on May 03, 2013, 08:44:00
nice build. looks better than a new bike off the showroom floor, job well done.

You should see it in person, it's better than the pics. It really looks like a brand new bike, not and old bike fixed up.  Scott did a great job and I can't wait to see it ripping up some asphalt.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on May 04, 2013, 18:17:50
Thank you guys very much !!!

     Well had problems with few thing with another bike and need to order parts so I moved on to the XS last night ! Which wasn't any good lol because the other bike had me up in arms long story !!!! 
    So after work today I set about getting the XS moving and moved it did up and down the drive like a champ if you could call it that !!! Still need tuning of the carbs but not far off really and retimed ! !!! 
    One problem that needs addressed is its running way hot on right side and left is much cooler ?? And I know this a dumb Question but on the mikuins anyone know on the carbs which way is off and which is on ???? Other then that .....

                         IT'S ALIVE AND FUCKIN MOVING  8)
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Cloyd on May 04, 2013, 18:40:41
You mean choke on or off for the mikunis? Plunger down means choke is off on my VM 34s
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: two-smoker on May 04, 2013, 18:42:29
If you're talking about the idle adjustment, threading in lifts the slides....
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on May 04, 2013, 21:27:29
No the choke lever ! It didn't want to run on when chock was off then and one cylinder was alot cooler then other
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: two-smoker on May 04, 2013, 21:28:59
Ahhhh.... Sounds like an issue with the pilot jets...
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on May 04, 2013, 22:51:25
As far as the not running off choke or the motor being cool on the left side ? Or both lol
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: two-smoker on May 04, 2013, 22:59:07
Both, actually. Does it get any better when you rev it up? The running only with choke leads me to think the pilots are either plugged or too small. The left running cold tells me it's not getting a good mixture.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: jakeschmidt on May 05, 2013, 13:37:56
just a question. is the tank all clean and petcocks clean? happened on my bike where there was some junk in the tank clogging one of the petcocks and it would start running on one cylinder.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on May 05, 2013, 14:21:53
Inside tank is clean and there new peacocks but that don't always mean there clean ! Will take alook at that and go over carbs again can't be anything big just needs messing with !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on May 06, 2013, 21:12:05
Pulled both carbs off and cleaned them then back on . I checked to make sure I have spark which both did but still only right side firing . Pulled plugs and left side clean but with I'll gas on it and right was black .
   Could this be air around the boots maybe or something else . Read a few threads here and seems its a carb problem someplace ?
   Well back to reading ! Any thoughts guys ????
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: two-smoker on May 06, 2013, 21:21:53
Hmm.. well if you have spark, did you try swapping plugs from one side to the other to see if the problem moves? I had a plug on my GT380 that would spark but would not fire under compression. I suppose you could try that with the carbs, too, temporarily... Then if the problem didn't move with one or the other you know it's mechanical. Valve sealing poorly, bad rings, whatever.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on May 07, 2013, 10:11:49
Is it Possible to have one cylinder lean and one rich with the same jets?
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: two-smoker on May 07, 2013, 10:15:46
Possible, but not common...
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on May 07, 2013, 10:21:21
Mmmm could carb boots leaking air cause it ? Say one side sealed up and running fine other boot sucking air and going lean and not letting the carb flow fuel right ?
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: two-smoker on May 07, 2013, 10:30:03
Oh yeah, in fact that's the most likely explanation, now that you mention it... My carb rubbers were all dry-rotted and cracked, and my bike ran lean as all get-out.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on May 07, 2013, 10:34:11
Cool cool will have a very close look at left side to make sure it's sealed ! Thank for the help smoke !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Maritime on May 07, 2013, 10:34:14
Leaky carb boots can cause you no end of pain, and they can leak even when they look good. but shooting starter spray or wd40 at them when runnig should cause a surge if they are the culprit


Edit

also doe your manifolds have O-Rings?  If they are crap there will be a leak between head and flange that can cause you issues too.  This was one of the causes the CX ran like crap and why I got it so cheap.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on May 07, 2013, 10:43:57
Now that u say that mike I replaced the orings with gaskets maybe not tight enough to seal ! With that info and smokes I have a good idea it's that and not the carbs themselves !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Maritime on May 07, 2013, 10:51:10
Yep. To get the CX to run after valves and carb cleaning, I didn't have the o-rings yet so I put RTV Gasket in the ring hole proud of the maifold about what the o-ring was on the good one, let it cure, then tightened it down, did the test fire and it ran great, but that stuff is not fuel stable so when I stripped it down I cleaned it all off again and got a set of o-rings off ebay to replace.  you could do the same to test, but don't leave it there, just get o-rings.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Maritime on May 07, 2013, 10:56:12
also, the CX has no replacement manifolds available so you have to use the ones for the bike, a lot of em are cracked etc. This tape was reccomended on the CX forum, a lot of guys have used it and it lasts for years. It only sticks to itself and is fuel stable etc. I wrapped my intakes with it and it seems to work, they were not yet leaking but were cracked up bad enough I didn't want to take the chance.

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/HomeRepairMaintenance/TapeGlueSealants/PRD~0670023P/Fushion+Pro+Self-fusing+Black+Silicone+Tape.jsp?locale=en
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on May 07, 2013, 11:14:45
Cool I have the stock ones that are all cracked and the new ones I have are NOS ones so it might come down to the seal ! Now if I can just get out of work I could find out lol

Thanks for the help guys
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Maritime on May 07, 2013, 11:21:25
Ha , I hate that. having to wait until off work to go try a fix.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: kopcicle on May 07, 2013, 17:01:52
Yep. To get the CX to run after valves and carb cleaning, I didn't have the o-rings yet so I put RTV Gasket in the ring hole proud of the maifold about what the o-ring was on the good one, let it cure, then tightened it down, did the test fire and it ran great, but that stuff is not fuel stable so when I stripped it down I cleaned it all off again and got a set of o-rings off ebay to replace.  you could do the same to test, but don't leave it there, just get o-rings.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#o-rings/=mnelfg (http://www.mcmaster.com/#o-rings/=mnelfg) measure and order . I'm sure you can find plenty of other stuff to make up an order .

~kop
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: MakiMoto on May 07, 2013, 17:37:46
Pulled both carbs off and cleaned them then back on . I checked to make sure I have spark which both did but still only right side firing . Pulled plugs and left side clean but with I'll gas on it and right was black .
   Could this be air around the boots maybe or something else . Read a few threads here and seems its a carb problem someplace ?
   Well back to reading ! Any thoughts guys ????

I had the same problem with mine earlier today, didnt check my plugs though.

On mine it was pretty obvious as i have clear fuel lines on it, the right side wasnt getting any/enough fuel.

(because i used a small container for a tank and it didnt deliver enough fuel)

Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on May 08, 2013, 22:10:00
  Messed around with the XS carbs tonight and figured a few things out . I went up one size on the pilot jet which help with it running with choke off  :) But still not firing on left side so looked at the boots . Found my stock ones that are cracked but on the out side so would work for the moment . Well carbs didnt fit  so well so took new ones was the same , carbs wouldn't seat far enough to get good seal so took a small amount off inside lip and got it to sit a lot better.
   Well same thing only running on one cylinder ? So next I switched spark plug wires and coil wires to see if it would move cylinders . Well it didn't same thing right side running and hot ,left side cold ??? So next I'll recheck the compression and see if not that pull valve cover off and check valve !
  At this moment I'm I'll lost  :o  :-[  >:(
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on May 08, 2013, 22:16:00
   Question : if the compression is right could I've adjusted the left intake valve to tight to open and not let fuel in ?
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: two-smoker on May 08, 2013, 22:26:09
Too tight would make the valve hang open slightly, so you'd have very little vacuum or compression on that cylinder. Too loose and you'd have noisy valves and less flow, cuz the valve wouldn't open as much. I'm thinking you were on the right track looking at the carbs and rubbers. With the Mikunis, I had to ditch the metal outer covers on the carb boots and use the old-fashioned worm-and-screw radiator hose clamps, or else the boots wouldn't seal for me. I imagine you'd have the same issue. If you can move (rotate) the carbs, the clamps aren't tight enough.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on May 10, 2013, 11:50:28
So after bleeding the clutch on my other bike I moved on to the XS to look at a few things . Found out two things one I have good compression and two have spark ! So ill look else where like valve adjustment and wiring ! I will get this but will take time as I'm just trying to rule out one thing at a time ! Every time I mess with something befor I move on I see if what I messed with work or not !! Time will tell I guess LOL
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: pr design on May 12, 2013, 18:16:12
Keep at it Dread.  You will be carving the back roads with her before long
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Islandstar on May 12, 2013, 22:43:13
Beautiful bike!!!!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on May 14, 2013, 13:01:35
Spent about 2 hours or so on the phone with Kopcicle which was a learning Experience! If this man ever offers to help take it  ;D  Well not sure if we found the true problem but we did Eliminate a few things and think maybe it was me messing with the wiring for the The Ignition just maybe ! Getting ready for the Thaw this week so will get back at it when I get back !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on May 23, 2013, 10:45:47
  MMMMM well I was messing around on the bike last night to see if I could run down the problem . Sat down and read thru the testing instuctions to see if I missed something . Tested the ignition and seemed like the eye for the left cylinder wasn't coming on . So then moved to the ignition box and tested it . After following the instructions to test the Box it pointed me back to the left eye on the ignition plate  :o  So I believe its the eye that is bad because the wiring is good ,box is good , that eye will not trigger just dead !! I even switched right to left ,left to right and left eye still would not work  :'(
   So my plan is to first email Newtronic about it and see if they will replace it ( ive had it over a year ) so not counting on that . Then see how much it will cost to just replace it with a new one . If the price is out of hand ill see if I can find someone to replace both eyes as there just senser eyes nothing special about them ? And then if that don't work ill say Fuck it and go to stock points and call it a day !!!!

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Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: two-smoker on May 23, 2013, 10:47:58
Hell yeah! Sounds like you've sussed out the problem!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Wahoo650 on May 23, 2013, 13:01:05
Hopefully they'll stand behind... at least a little.  I've had a newtronics on my 650 for over 11 years now- never a hitch.  And if my 650 can't shake it to death, that says something for the design.

Matt
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: VonYinzer on May 23, 2013, 13:30:29
You want us to go "talk" to them Scott?
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on May 23, 2013, 13:45:40
ONLY if you take Brad because there in London LOL
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on May 23, 2013, 13:54:33
Email sent to Newtronics will see what comes of it !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on May 28, 2013, 14:26:42
  Just got a email back from Newtronic and there asking for me to send them the senser back with the plate ! And if its bad they will replace and send it back ! WOOT
   There asking me to send it thru : Royal mail Recorded Delivery ? I take it its like UPS and wonder if UPS will work ??? Will have to look into it ASAP lol

 Wish me luck because I really don't want to send Mike and Brad over there to fix the problem cuz they will burn the place down LOL
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: bradj on May 28, 2013, 15:59:15
Burn Everything but there coal
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Maritime on May 28, 2013, 16:42:23
Ha Scott, Royal mail recorded delivery is USPS registered mail.  Signature required for delivery.  We still call Canada Post - Royal Mail when we need to use it to send something here. Good luck, UPS will bend you over to send that too, Check USPS first.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on May 28, 2013, 17:40:57
Cool mike thanks for the info !
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Post by: DreadRock on May 29, 2013, 20:55:31
And it's off to London  :-\ let's hope it come back soon !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: two-smoker on May 29, 2013, 21:04:11
Let's hope you don't have the same issue I had when I sent the watch-phone back... I was out my 350 bucks and my watch-phone..
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on May 30, 2013, 10:23:49
Thanks for the ray of hope smoke LOL
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Post by: Maritime on May 30, 2013, 10:27:32
Newtronic should treat you right, if not you can have Beachcomber pay them a visit. ;D
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: two-smoker on May 30, 2013, 13:32:46
Thanks for the ray of hope smoke LOL
Hey, what kind of guy would I be if I just let everyone forget about all the doom and gloom? Lol
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jun 20, 2013, 10:30:53
Smoke did you call anyone in London to mess with me because Ive Emailed Newtronics and just got a Email this morning  :-[  They haven't got it yet and I sent it 5/29 !!! So im blameing you on the bad MoJo LOL (JK)
  So they wanted the info as to when ,where , how I sent it , so first thing this morning did just that . On the way to work this morning just a lil pissed off about it I thought F this I should pull that motor out and fit the TT500 motor as its much simpler then the XS motor . I know that would be more work and just giving up to quick but I will be really pissed if my ignition plate shows back up with a Tan and some crazy letter from some Tropical island saying " Come back soon and it was a great party "
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: two-smoker on Jun 20, 2013, 20:10:57
Awh, man, I didn't mean to jinx ya.... Hope everything turns out okay.
I do hear ya about getting frustrated with the original motor. I was talking smack about fitting a GS500e motor way back  on the third page of my build...
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jun 25, 2013, 15:46:19
If you have read most of the last page or two you know I'm waiting on my ignition to be fixed ! So I sent it A MONTH AGO and sent them a email and there saying it takes time but A F'in MONTH this isn't the Stone Age is it ????? And for all I know they still haven't got it !!!!!!! How long should I go befor I get pissed of and what should I do ? Any ideas ?????
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Maritime on Jun 25, 2013, 16:16:49
Did it go surface? If so 30-45 days is normal cause they put it on a boat. USPS registered small packet air should only take 14-21 days normally.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: bradj on Jun 25, 2013, 17:33:38
Why would you buy electrical parts from england. i mean scott youve owned british cars you should know electrical system ant there strong suit
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jun 25, 2013, 17:42:59
Why would you buy electrical parts from england. i mean scott youve owned british cars you should know electrical system ant there strong suit

 True story !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: two-smoker on Jun 25, 2013, 18:30:11
Ah yes, Lucas, prince of darkness....
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 03, 2013, 11:22:13
     Been waiting on my ignition from newtronics for awhile now and after the last email with them was told when they get it they will let me know ! So been waiting for that email which never came  :-[  BUT Monday I get a lil pink card from USPS saying they have a package for me and I need to sign for it . Thinking there other parts for my FJ was thinking DAM but good I guess. Well come to find out there was 2 packages there both from no other then Newtronics  ;D ;D ;D
  Sure enough there was my ignition with new senser eyes and the other package had my old ones . The letter with it said that the senser was bad and not working at all and that they replaced them both free of charge HELL YEA !!!!
  So the great part about this is I got the ignition back and with help from guys like Kop , BradJ  figured out the problem . Its the last thing I needed + some small things to get the Monkey off my back and onto the road . Best part is after today im off work for a week again HELL YEA to button up the 500 and see what happens . I hope with fingers crossed by this Sat I can say ITS DONE !!!!
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Post by: Maritime on Jul 03, 2013, 12:53:23
WoooHooo! Nice Scott, I really need to get to mid-ohio to see and hear that bike fire up and ride. 
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Jul 03, 2013, 13:52:37
Fuck. Yeah!
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Post by: Rich Ard on Jul 03, 2013, 14:00:38
I second the gentleman above me
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Post by: two-smoker on Jul 03, 2013, 15:34:37
That's some great news, Dread. Keep the updates coming!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: VonYinzer on Jul 03, 2013, 17:35:50
Rad Scott. Still the only red bike I like. ;)
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Jul 03, 2013, 18:10:09
Mid-Ohio, here we come!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: bradj on Jul 03, 2013, 18:17:11
Rad Scott. Still the only red bike I like. ;)
this dumb fuck has a point
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: VonYinzer on Jul 03, 2013, 18:39:44
this dumb fuck has a point

Ill gut you like a fucking trout.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: bradj on Jul 03, 2013, 20:13:04
You gonna bark all day little doggy
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 04, 2013, 18:22:16
We have lift off ( kinda )  ;D

   Started messing with the last few things on the 500 and got it fired back up . Both side firing as should be . Pulled it off the table and outside it went to adjust carbs and get it to idle . Got it close then on came the gear and up the road I went . Seems to sputter are 4 , 4 1/2 throttle . Still need to mess with jetting and timing but can say everything else was great wheels spun smoothly , brakes worked , no funny noises !!!

More to come ....
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Jul 04, 2013, 18:34:04
Huzzah!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Hoosier Daddy on Jul 05, 2013, 06:05:21
 (http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w325/juancarlos722/applause.gif)
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Jul 05, 2013, 08:20:49
Indeed!
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Post by: Maritime on Jul 05, 2013, 08:53:57
Yessir!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: pr design on Jul 05, 2013, 11:10:12
Nice.  Minor tuning and ready to rock. 
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 05, 2013, 12:09:22
Nice.  Minor tuning and ready to rock. 

Yep !! And thanks guys !

 Messed with the timing some and starts up lil faster now . Comes down to the black art of carbs now but I can't tell you how funny I felt thinking " after 2 1/2 year it's really going to go down the road ! It was like the first time ever getting on a bike what a great feeling it was !!!!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 06, 2013, 11:41:02
Been reading this to  figure out the carbs....

Carbs 101  :  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=16745.0

And from what I understand (LOL) I went down to a 190 main from a 200 because it was running bad about 1/4 throttle ! Will see this afternoon if that helped .....
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: haircuttergirl on Jul 06, 2013, 12:44:46
I can't tell you how funny I felt thinking " after 2 1/2 year it's really going to go down the road ! It was like the first time ever getting on a bike what a great feeling it was !!!!
Makes me excited about getting to this point on mine eventually. I am über happy for you, Scott! :D
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: SeekingZero on Jul 07, 2013, 01:29:17
Great work man.  I can't wait till I'm at that point.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: bradj on Jul 07, 2013, 03:12:28
Comes down to the black art of carbs now
plug chops  going up your hill take a socket
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 07, 2013, 16:04:02
Just trying to the point it's close ! Took it out for a few miles and please don't laugh to hard but ( head down ) ran out of gas  ::)  So moving on lol when got it home to look one plugs loosened up and wher Black/ overly wet !
  Cleaned plugs and after starting it up left header was cool so pulled the plugs again and think left side Fouled a plug to the point no good ?  Waiting for battery to charge and try again !

O and I'm trying to lean it out as I feel it to to rich !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 07, 2013, 19:43:27
End of the day and seems to be closer ! Pulled carbs off because I think the clamps where weak and letting air in around them so new clamps where put on . So what I'm running now is : main 195
             Pilot  25
           Needle  2nd from top
Going to pick up new plugs in the morning , now the book says :
   B-8SE-L  should I run that or what would be better Choice ? And give it another go Monday !!!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: SeekingZero on Jul 08, 2013, 03:38:22
Took it out for a few miles and please don't laugh to hard but ( head down ) ran out of gas  ::)

Lol. Ya it was a good laugh.  Thanks for that!  ;)

Wish I could be of some insight with the carb and fuel and running issues, but I have yet to cross that bridge and the last time I attempted...well lets just say I decided to rebuild the motor instead...
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 10, 2013, 00:22:52
 Timing Timing Timing seems to be everything now  :o messed with the carbs some more tonight .  Carbs are at :  main 190
                        Pilot.   30
                        Needle 2nd down from top
    Once We got it there it would rev up from idle to 5g then start to break up . Started thinking and never really did the timing just static timing . After hitting it with a light found the left cylinder was off a bit but once it was on moved to right but didn't get to it ran out of battery and didn't want to drain it to bad . Tommrow will finish the timing and see how that helps  ;D
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Jul 10, 2013, 14:47:31
So. Damn. Close.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 12, 2013, 16:23:58
LOL !

 Need to go over a few things to night like make sure timing is 100% and that the carbs are in sync  with each other . Bike is doing good from idle to about 1/2 throttle but falls on its face at 5 , 5 1/2 grand  :-[  So if im reading this right it the main jet is dumping all kinds of fuel and fouling the plugs ....

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/jets_zps3c9e75ac.gif) (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/dreadrock1/media/jets_zps3c9e75ac.gif.html)
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: MotorbikeBruno on Jul 12, 2013, 16:35:36
LOL !

 Need to go over a few things to night like make sure timing is 100% and that the carbs are in sync  with each other . Bike is doing good from idle to about 1/2 throttle but falls on its face at 5 , 5 1/2 grand  :-[  So if im reading this right it the main jet is dumping all kinds of fuel and fouling the plugs ....

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/jets_zps3c9e75ac.gif) (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/dreadrock1/media/jets_zps3c9e75ac.gif.html)

Yes and no?  Haha.  Your slide needle is going to do a lot of metering of the fuel at that point.  Also, note the slide cutaway  make sure yours is adjusted right, someone chime in but if I remember right, adjust the throttle stop so the rear of the cutaway on the slide should just be sticking into the carb body.  But that might just be with mechanical and not CV type carbs.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 12, 2013, 17:43:07
There Mechanical carbs VM32s ! Ill take a look tonight Bruno thanks
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 13, 2013, 09:38:32
 This is all ill say about Newtronics ignition for the 500 : easy to time and nice unit but it needs to be Modified some . First thing I did last night was working on the timing and found out why it dropped on its face at 5 grand ! If the plate was turned all the way to Advanced it still was off so out came the Drimal and cutting wheel . Cut the plate so it could advance more and that put the bike in perfect timing  ;D also changed the whole note of the exhuast . So on to jetting and on a side note BRASS IS FUCKING PRICEY when your on a time Schedule LOL but got it really close last night . Need to mess with the pilot now befor moving on to the needle and main ! Will be on it most of the weekend so will see  :)
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Jul 13, 2013, 11:10:35
Next week, sir. I can't wait to see it.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: MotorbikeBruno on Jul 13, 2013, 11:22:02
This is all ill say about Newtronics ignition for the 500 : easy to time and nice unit but it needs to be Modified some . First thing I did last night was working on the timing and found out why it dropped on its face at 5 grand ! If the plate was turned all the way to Advanced it still was off so out came the Drimal and cutting wheel . Cut the plate so it could advance more and that put the bike in perfect timing  ;D also changed the whole note of the exhuast . So on to jetting and on a side note BRASS IS FUCKING PRICEY when your on a time Schedule LOL but got it really close last night . Need to mess with the pilot now befor moving on to the needle and main ! Will be on it most of the weekend so will see  :)

Nice! Glad to hear it man!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Maritime on Jul 13, 2013, 11:25:36
Nice.  Bummed I will miss it.

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Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: haircuttergirl on Jul 13, 2013, 11:35:32
Nice.  Bummed I will miss it.
*poke, poke* We are bummed you'll miss it, too.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: two-smoker on Jul 13, 2013, 14:03:58
I am truly envious, my friend... Good onya.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 15, 2013, 17:17:35
I am truly envious, my friend... Good onya.

Don't say that to fast ! But thanks smoke ..

Messed all weekend on the carbs and can seem to get it of idle smooth ?
Main 160
Pilot 15
Needle at top
Air screw 1 1/2 turns out

Not sure which way to go any help from the carb guys out there ?
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: MotorbikeBruno on Jul 15, 2013, 17:30:57
Don't say that to fast ! But thanks smoke ..

Messed all weekend on the carbs and can seem to get it of idle smooth ?
Main 160
Pilot 15
Needle at top
Air screw 1 1/2 turns out

Not sure which way to go any help from the carb guys out there ?

Well, did you sync them (or at least try)  ;)

Next up, you sure it's a 15 pilot and not a 35?  (just checking)  and either way it's at the "stock" setting.  Adjust your mixture screws maybe? OUT would add more air into the mixture to lean things out and going IN would richen it.  Being that you have some huge pods on there...I'd suspect you are very lean at idle.  Try seating them (VERY LIGHTLY) and then backing out to only 1/2 turn and see if your bike's idle improves any. 
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 15, 2013, 17:51:43
Yes a synced them close I could and yes it's a 15 pilot in it now  :o going to get back at it and give a few things a try and will see if your on to something Bruno thanks !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Maritime on Jul 15, 2013, 18:52:58
Remember pods do not effect idle hardly at all.  They only change air flow when on the throttle. From like 1/4 and up they start to effect air flow.

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Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 15, 2013, 20:56:58
Yea mike I agree with that as it runs great at idle but calla apart after ! Goin to restart my plan of Attack and make real sure timings right then move to pilot and so on see if I am missing something !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: VonYinzer on Jul 15, 2013, 21:14:53
Did I tell you that I like this motorcycle, because I do. A lot...
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: two-smoker on Jul 15, 2013, 21:15:40
If it idled good but falls on its face after, I'm thinking the pilot might be good, but maybe need  a different needle jet or needle... Maybe main jet.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Maritime on Jul 15, 2013, 21:29:22
Yep.  You need to look at the next fueling stage after idle.  That is where it is either rich or lean. 

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Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 15, 2013, 23:57:31
Main 160
Pilot 20
Needle down one from top
Air screw 1 turn out
 
I understand that the pilot doesn't  effect idle but would not idle with a 15 pilot no matter what we did. Now at 20 it's much better and idles smooth  :). Also made sure 100% that timing is right and both barrels move at the same time with lil adjustment . It's revving up to red line ( 9 grand ) 8) but toward mid it seems to break up some  and breaks up from there up ? Would I now look to the needle or main ? Break up is starting around 6 and up !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: two-smoker on Jul 16, 2013, 00:11:50
Well, if that's at full throttle, I'd say mains, mid throttle needle...
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Wahoo650 on Jul 16, 2013, 07:09:36
Main 160
Pilot 20
Needle down one from top
Air screw 1 turn out
 
I understand that the pilot doesn't  effect idle but would not idle with a 15 pilot no matter what we did. Now at 20 it's much better and idles smooth  :). Also made sure 100% that timing is right and both barrels move at the same time with lil adjustment . It's revving up to red line ( 9 grand ) 8) but toward mid it seems to break up some  and breaks up from there up ? Would I now look to the needle or main ? Break up is starting around 6 and up !

Scott,  Sounds like it's in the transition(mid to high) that's giving you issue now- that's the needle, could be position- could also be profile.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 16, 2013, 11:11:50
   That's where im heading needle and main but there close !

 Heres a pic of its First real ride around town ....

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/1stride_zpsd3f36827.jpg) (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/dreadrock1/media/1stride_zpsd3f36827.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Jul 16, 2013, 11:35:14
Yes sir!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: MotorbikeBruno on Jul 16, 2013, 11:52:37
Scott,  Sounds like it's in the transition(mid to high) that's giving you issue now- that's the needle, could be position- could also be profile.

Agreed.  That gets tricky some times.  Needle profile, # clip up or down, and then main jet.   Sometimes your bike runs great on the main jet (aka UP high in the revs) but it's still too much for the crossover from low-mid then mid-high.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: SeekingZero on Jul 16, 2013, 12:13:41
   That's where im heading needle and main but there close !

 Heres a pic of its First real ride around town ....

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/1stride_zpsd3f36827.jpg) (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/dreadrock1/media/1stride_zpsd3f36827.jpg.html)

Pure Sex!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: LBC on Jul 16, 2013, 13:04:25
This think does not look like 1975. Sweet build. Great vision.

I'm going to go scour craigs for XS500 now......
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 17, 2013, 10:03:07
  Thanks guys for all kind words !

   Went home and messed some with the 500 carbs  last night. Thought I would do one thing to see if that helped so set the needle down one more . Then rechecked the carbs where working right and fired it up and got a real nice idle out of the it . So on came the gear and out I started but it shut down when It was under a load what would make it do that ??? So tonight going to put the needle back one up and see how that goes  ;D
  I have never messed with carbs but will say im slowly learning them so its kind of a good thing really  :)
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Maritime on Jul 17, 2013, 10:14:04
Keep at it Scott, you'll get there.  It's always good to do one change at a time like that and see if it is better or worse, then you can reverse it, or go further, then try the next piece and do the same until all the settings are correct and the bike is hauling ass.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: MotorbikeBruno on Jul 17, 2013, 11:45:39
Keep at it Scott, you'll get there.  It's always good to do one change at a time like that and see if it is better or worse, then you can reverse it, or go further, then try the next piece and do the same until all the settings are correct and the bike is hauling ass.

Yup ^^^  all of this. Ha!  (I'm too lazy to type it, thanks Maritime!)
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 17, 2013, 12:38:12
  That's the plan tonight is to put the needle back up one and see . But where to look then pilot or main ?? Seems to me it would be the pilot but when I droped it down to 15 it didn't want to run or idle ?? When the 15 was in turned the idle screws all the way in but nothing . I know im close but I hate just guessing  :-\  which im sure is somewhere in very small fine print that says " Carbs tuning is the number one cause of stress " LOL
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Maritime on Jul 17, 2013, 13:29:42
Check this, another member posted it and it is a good rough guide to tuning your carbs.  it lists throttle opening and what part of the fuel curcuit you need to adjust and it works with plug chops.  What I would do, is mark your throttle in 1/4's with some pinstripe tape or something.  Then you can do the idle check, then the 1/4 throttle chop, then the half and so on.  I did this on the 450 when I went to pods and I got it to run, this just outlines it a bit to make some sense.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 17, 2013, 15:27:28
 Very cool mike thank you bud , going to make a few copys of that to take out in the shop tonight !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Maritime on Jul 17, 2013, 15:30:56
Well I stole it from another thread and can't remember who originally posted it but figured it was worth saving
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: The Giant Robot Co. on Jul 17, 2013, 15:36:43
Very cool mike thank you bud , going to make a few copys of that to take out in the shop tonight !

I like how you said "few copies". I don't ever print out just 1 of something to take into the shop. In half an hours time I usually can't even read the one I started with!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: HerrDeacon on Jul 17, 2013, 15:40:07
I used that sheet when tuning my MB5 and found it quite good. I started with the idle and once that was dialed in I worked on the Main jet by doing some WOT runs. Once I had that I worked on the mid range by moving the needle.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 17, 2013, 15:41:33
  Yea Logan happens all the time gas,grease,beer,sweat,oil,dogs all seem to eat up a copy or two LOL
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: The_Stache on Jul 17, 2013, 18:42:43
Well I stole it from another thread and can't remember who originally posted it but figured it was worth saving
May have picked it up from my thread. Darkhorse (http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3667) posted it. It's so helpful!

Absolutely beautiful build!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: kopcicle on Jul 18, 2013, 00:35:02
Yeah I kinda beat it out of darkhorse but it was worth it , kinda .

Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Maritime on Jul 18, 2013, 09:32:09
That was the thread so thanks goes to Darkhorse. Hope it works for you.  Oh and I know about the grease on the paper LOL. when it is only a single page you can put a plastic cover over it to get a few days out of it.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 18, 2013, 12:32:11
I printed 4 LOL

 Last night followed from start and had mixed readings . It just keeps jumping around so started it up and checked to make sure the boots where not leaking with some carb cleaner which there good no diff when sprayed around the boots. Dennis told me about replacing the bowl cap with one I can run a clear line up the side of the carb to check float level which will be done tonight just to make sure its where it should be. My lil gel battery keeps running out of power befor I get far and am thinking that at idle its not charging good enough to keep a good spark all so will be fix tonight for tuning sake !
  Once that is done will start over on the carbs  ;D  Been over at the XS500 forum looking to see if I can find help there. Theres a guy named Jimmer and know hes hangs here from time to time that has helped with my build. The man knows these bikes inside and out as he drag races 2 of the and one hes running a turbo other has carbs so asked if he had a good base line just to get started and go from there. Its seems like I am just jumping around on the carbs but that's going to end tonight !!!!!

Stay tuned boys and Girls ......

And NO Brad im not going to run a Turbo on it LOL
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: bradj on Jul 18, 2013, 15:31:41
Puss
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Drewski on Jul 18, 2013, 16:40:46


Stay tuned boys and Girls ......

And NO Brad im not going to run a Turbo on it LOL



Puss


So predictable.  ::)





Looks the biz Scott!! Well done!  8)
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Big Rich on Jul 21, 2013, 20:37:13
So what happened with this bike this morning? Sadly, I snuck out before finding out.....
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: haircuttergirl on Jul 21, 2013, 20:49:50
So what happened with this bike this morning? Sadly, I snuck out before finding out.....
Sock Monkey's wires looked awfully noodley and there were a lot of parts on the floor, that's what.
:)
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 21, 2013, 21:34:07
  Lil blurry but we ended up disconnecting the Electronic ignition and putting points set up just to test the unit and found that one of the coils turned to lava ! Would really like to thanks Rich,Brad,jordon and jamie for all the help ! Looking for new coils now and seemed when the coil cooled down it worked fine then once hot would do what ever it wanted . So that's what keep the carbs from getting dialed in right .
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: haircuttergirl on Jul 21, 2013, 21:42:31
  Lil blurry...
Can't imagine why ;)
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Big Rich on Jul 21, 2013, 21:46:39
Bad coil? Bastards...... That does explain a lot though.

I enjoyed helping - no need to thank me. Besides, Brad is the carb guru. Wish we had more time to get it straightened out for ya.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 21, 2013, 22:38:50
 Well you guys did help figure a few bugs out tho its a better start now I'm thinking !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 22, 2013, 00:53:44
Looked over coils and thinking if not stock ones go with something like this ...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dynatek-Miniature-3-ohm-Single-Output-Coils-PAIR-DC3-2-/171072270389?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27d4b3b035&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Big Rich on Jul 22, 2013, 01:39:19
Scott, are the stock coils 3 ohm or 5 ohm? If they are 5, there are a ton of factory coils that could be wired in to work (I have coils from a......you guessed it...... GS500 on my 450).
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 22, 2013, 01:44:54
From what ive read stock ones are 3 ohms but thanks for the offer rich ! Guess if I'm going to replace them now would be a good time to up grade then right ?
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: bradj on Jul 22, 2013, 17:32:43
Besides, Brad is the carb guru.
[/quote] no sugar you hang up first
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: bradj on Jul 22, 2013, 17:35:36
Rich your waaaaayyyy better with carbs than i am i was to wrapped up in breaking a rd case  >:(
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Big Rich on Jul 22, 2013, 21:57:34
Nope, I'm a better bullshitter. I'll be sure to direct all questions about carbs to you via pm. :)
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 22, 2013, 22:07:57
HA !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: john83 on Jul 23, 2013, 00:19:48
  Lil blurry but we ended up disconnecting the Electronic ignition and putting points set up just to test the unit and found that one of the coils turned to lava ! Would really like to thanks Rich,Brad,jordon and jamie for all the help ! Looking for new coils now and seemed when the coil cooled down it worked fine then once hot would do what ever it wanted . So that's what keep the carbs from getting dialed in right .

Had the coil do that on my bike. It was fine when cold but would act up when it got a load on it. Tricky little bastards.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DeanJ on Jul 23, 2013, 13:44:15
Get it running right so you can get some more votes for BOTM !

stock coils are 4 ohm sir...

The coils are not unique to the 500, nearly every Yamaha in the 70's used the same part # so they are easy to find 

http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/yamaha/YP-254-82310-60-00.html

Also responded to you on the XS500 forum  :D     
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 23, 2013, 14:19:48
   
Get it running right so you can get some more votes for BOTM !

stock coils are 4 ohm sir...

The coils are not unique to the 500, nearly every Yamaha in the 70's used the same part # so they are easy to find 

http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/yamaha/YP-254-82310-60-00.html

Also responded to you on the XS500 forum  :D     

 Yea thank you for the info I thought so just wasn't sure ! Think MikesXS has them lil cheaper so need to get on it this week. As for the BOTM if it wins cool if not cool can understand mines not 100% but close and the other two are which I do wish the best of luck to all !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 24, 2013, 14:57:49
  New coils are on there way lets hope I can get them befor the 31st of this month and the Monkey up and running again !

And on a side note Rich shouldn't the handle bars be turned around ?
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Wahoo650 on Jul 24, 2013, 15:35:46
Scott, if all goes well are we going to see the Monkey at Cleveland Mods vs Rockers?
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 24, 2013, 17:32:02
  Would like it to be if able to , its in Aug right ?
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Big Rich on Jul 24, 2013, 18:28:33


And on a side note Rich shouldn't the handle bars be turned around ?

"Stunt riding".
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Wahoo650 on Jul 24, 2013, 21:54:05
  Would like it to be if able to , its in Aug right ?

Yep Aug. 9-10-11.  Couple threads already on here with link to register.  Good time.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 30, 2013, 23:37:11
New coils are in and grounded good ! The monkey is back up and firing on all cylinders just need to get the timing back to perfect and carbs which will be done tommrow ! There will be no rest for the wicked tommrow I promise you  >:(  Will have pics in the morning ... And if I can figure it out video  ;D
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Rich Ard on Jul 30, 2013, 23:47:50
'Bout time to get a Yamahaha meetup in your neck of the woods boss
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Jul 30, 2013, 23:50:37
Hell yeah, man!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Rich Ard on Jul 31, 2013, 00:01:57
You bring the airhead and I'll bring my Triumph shirt. First man to turn his back gets buried outside Cleveland.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 31, 2013, 00:09:35
Cool then I can turn the Survivor in for a big reward to fund my next build  ::)
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Post by: Rich Ard on Jul 31, 2013, 00:16:12
Plus you get the airhead and the shirt. Smart guy.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 31, 2013, 10:20:37
  Well I got the coils installed and grounded  ;D I cleaned off the paint or PC off the frame and coil rack for better grounding . Also ran wire from coil to coil to Neg on the battery to make sure it was getting grounded .

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/wireing1_zps87527da1.jpg) (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/dreadrock1/media/wireing1_zps87527da1.jpg.html)

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/wiring2_zps5828a407.jpg) (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/dreadrock1/media/wiring2_zps5828a407.jpg.html)


And to the guys I need to ship parts to im running lil behind doing this sorry !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Big Rich on Jul 31, 2013, 21:12:37
Screw shipping parts! Get the XS running first!










I can say that since I'm not waiting for parts....... :)
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: two-smoker on Jul 31, 2013, 21:25:27
Lol. Good thing I'm patient! No hurry, Scott. Get your stuff taken care of first.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Rich Ard on Jul 31, 2013, 21:47:37
I'm not going to rush you on the parts i should have picked up from your place :)
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Jul 31, 2013, 23:29:40
Well got most of your guys stuff packed !


On the XS everything almost seemed fine but I have to say FUCK NEWTRONICS ! I have nothing but problems with it so guess what ... It's running old school points now and the Newtronics is out the door ! And will say way way better just have to smooth out the carbs just a bit more and its MONEY !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: bradj on Jul 31, 2013, 23:34:24



I have to say FUCK NEWTRONICS ! I have nothing but problems with it
Man, if only someone would have told you that months ago  ::)
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Jul 31, 2013, 23:43:37
Ha!
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Post by: DreadRock on Jul 31, 2013, 23:45:29
True but it didn't sink in till 3:30am a few Saturday nights back now I know better !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Rich Ard on Jul 31, 2013, 23:57:07
  Well I got the coils installed and grounded  ;D I cleaned off the paint or PC off the frame and coil rack for better grounding . Also ran wire from coil to coil to Neg on the battery to make sure it was getting grounded .
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/wiring2_zps5828a407.jpg) (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/dreadrock1/media/wiring2_zps5828a407.jpg.html)


And to the guys I need to ship parts to im running lil behind doing this sorry !

If it reads "12V OM11-50 403" on one side of those coils and "WAT YONG" on the other, you don't need to ground the posts - they're just M6 bolts molded into the coil bodies.

(Source: I just tore one apart to make sure :D)
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Aug 01, 2013, 00:40:38
You know you learn something new everyday that would make sense ::) I think I was over thinking it and trying to make sure ! See there I go thinking again I real need to stop doing that LOL
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Post by: haircuttergirl on Aug 01, 2013, 01:04:19
Winner winner winner. :)
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Post by: two-smoker on Aug 01, 2013, 06:09:11
Wow. It's looking like I should have gone with the Dyna/do it yourself ignition.... You're the 5th person easy I've heard had problems with the Newtronic ignition....
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DeanJ on Aug 01, 2013, 08:58:26
I know, right?   I still run  points in my TX  & XS's....   every time I "think about" upgrading to EI....... up pops another Newtronics horror story  :o       
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Aug 01, 2013, 09:18:08
Yea very disappointed with it ran good when I first put it in but nothing but problems after that ! Guess it was a learning lesson but should have know it was to easy of a set up and after everything I did on the bike that was work shouldn't have thought it would be plug and play !

 Thanks to all for your help and votes  couldn't of done it with out you guys  ;D
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Aug 01, 2013, 09:23:41
  Tonight I need to pull all the newtronics junk out and feed it to the box of shame and clean the wiring back up !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Aug 02, 2013, 22:41:19
  Alright the new POINTS are back in and all wired up had to find a good place to mount condensers which ended up neat will post pic later . Got all the wiring wrapped back up ! Will say I have never set points so to the manual I go and really kind of easy . When I went to fire it back up keep back firing so pulled the ignition cam and moved it 180 and the monkey fired up and running well ! I think the timing is just off a little but close so as soon as the suns out again to the road I go !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: two-smoker on Aug 02, 2013, 22:45:28
Glad you got her running good at last! Even if it makes me dread dealing with my own Newtronics nightmare...
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Aug 02, 2013, 23:19:02
Yea smoke I'm really trying to move past that mistake and I hope it works better for you then me ! Also got your stuff ready to go  ;D
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: two-smoker on Aug 02, 2013, 23:53:32
Sweet, man, hit me with the tally when you've got it!
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Post by: mothgils on Aug 03, 2013, 17:39:54
Awesome news Scott!  Can't wait to see this thing on the road!


Congrats on BOTM as well!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: DreadRock on Aug 03, 2013, 20:36:12
Awesome news Scott!  Can't wait to see this thing on the road!


Congrats on BOTM as well!

Thanks guys !

And speaking of the road got to put about 15miles on it  today  :) :) :) Want to do a few things like change oil , go over some bolts and nuts !! Seems the rear sprocket which is the stock one for a RD400 wheel I'm thinking is a bit small and maybe need to got up a few . It seems to want to bog some up top but will go over carbs tommrow then take it
back out for few more runs befor plug chops start !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey
Post by: Rich Ard on Aug 04, 2013, 00:09:26
Right on, glad to hear it's getting there. You'll be earning speeding tickets, I mean, trophies in no time at all.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: DreadRock on Aug 04, 2013, 21:10:25
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/th_IMG_0798_zps129a333a.jpg) (http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/IMG_0798_zps129a333a.mp4)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/th_IMG_07981_zps77642a4c.jpg) (http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/IMG_07981_zps77642a4c.mp4)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/DSC_0772_zps1bb486ba.jpg) (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/dreadrock1/media/DSC_0772_zps1bb486ba.jpg.html)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/DSC_0766_zps6bf8a208.jpg) (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/dreadrock1/media/DSC_0766_zps6bf8a208.jpg.html)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/DSC_0757_zpsdf69e608.jpg) (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/dreadrock1/media/DSC_0757_zpsdf69e608.jpg.html)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/DSC_0758_zps9d84189b.jpg) (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/dreadrock1/media/DSC_0758_zps9d84189b.jpg.html)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/DSC_0756_zpse557330e.jpg) (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/dreadrock1/media/DSC_0756_zpse557330e.jpg.html)

 Bike is running GREAT and would like to thank a lot of good people for there help  :)

 NEXT..................
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: DreadRock on Aug 04, 2013, 21:25:27
MMM video not right need to figure that out  :(
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: Brodie on Aug 04, 2013, 21:34:48
This is a beautiful bike Dread, good to see you have it running right.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: Rich Ard on Aug 04, 2013, 21:40:39
Shit, my dishes aren't that clean. Nice work man.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: Big Rich on Aug 04, 2013, 21:43:34
Congrats man!

I can attest that this bike is as clean as it looks in person. Heck, I don't know how that shop stays so clean......
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: john83 on Aug 05, 2013, 00:07:34
Super clean dude! Love it!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: SeekingZero on Aug 05, 2013, 01:08:19
Dread, the bike looks amazing (and great in person too!) and sounds awesome.  I'm glad you got yours running, and congrats on BOTM!  No if only I could get mine going...  :-\

Edit: the video won't load properly from photobucket and crashes Chrome...use youtube!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: haircuttergirl on Aug 05, 2013, 01:11:25
She's gorgeous, my friend. Congrats!!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: DreadRock on Aug 05, 2013, 06:49:56
Thanks guys and gals ! Yea I'm not good with computers lol Talked to Dustin and he's going to help out on the video so when he get time they will get posted !

 Ben keep at it man you'll get it I'm sure !
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Aug 05, 2013, 08:14:16
Hell yeah, man!
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Post by: trek97 on Aug 05, 2013, 08:20:14
sweeet.
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Post by: gk45011 on Aug 05, 2013, 09:28:35
Beautiful Bike, glad to see you got her sorted out.

Gary
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Post by: Wahoo650 on Aug 05, 2013, 10:05:12
Looks great Scott, hope to see it at MvR this week!  If not, need to get some group rides in again over the next few months.  Was down blasting through the Pennisula area yesterday with a couple guys- great roads.   Put a little over 100 mi. on the 650!

Matt

Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: DreadRock on Aug 06, 2013, 10:50:44
   Sense im I dumb ass with a computer I cant seem to get the video up . So sent them to Dustin to help me out as soon as he has time hope he will get them up !
 Theres a few small things I just cant let go on the bike nothing big mind you just me being me LOL Need to make a small chain bloke for the front of the swingarm so the chain don't rub there. And have a drip out of one of the petcocks all of which will be fixed over the next few days . But Over all I LOVE THIS F'ing BIKE !!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: haircuttergirl on Aug 06, 2013, 10:55:46
I LOVE THIS F'ing BIKE !!!!!!!!!!!
This is what it's all about to me. I'm so excited for you, Scott!!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: Drewski on Aug 07, 2013, 11:16:04

Ya Scott!  ;D  There 's almost nothin' like getting a Project DONE and on the road!!  ;D  Especially when it's exactly the way you dreamed it would be!  :D

Congrats man! You've worked very hard to get here.  8)
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Post by: Azbiker on Aug 07, 2013, 13:54:31
Damn your bike is nice!
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Post by: djelliott on Aug 07, 2013, 14:19:47
Here's the videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2a5B6CO6OA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNuUvWJ1uzg
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: DreadRock on Aug 07, 2013, 15:23:27
Thank you very much Dustin for helping out a computer dumb ass !
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Post by: kopcicle on Aug 07, 2013, 17:26:18
happen to know what the air correction jet is ?
just a hunch

~kop
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Post by: DreadRock on Aug 07, 2013, 17:49:03
I'm guessing and just guessing but the lil air screw inside the carb looking at it from the filter side ?
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Post by: DreadRock on Aug 07, 2013, 17:54:18
Was talking to Dean over at the TX/XS forum and he gave a few things to think about and the biggest is get the covers off the filters which is the plan ! I have more pilots heading my way running 30 now and thinking need to go up one or so . But I needed a base to start with on the bike after the ignition problem . So now that its running from top to bottom tuning the carbs to be right is the number one goal !
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Post by: Big Rich on Aug 07, 2013, 18:35:57
happen to know what the air correction jet is ?
just a hunch

~kop

I think it's 2.5. We had the in and out a couple times at Mid Ohio (which obviously didn't cure a heat soaked coil).
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: DeanJ on Aug 08, 2013, 20:25:46
Was talking to Dean over at the TX/XS forum and he gave a few things to think about ...........

Be very patient, go step by step, take zero short cuts, and invest in the time, the jets, the plugs etc to do it right ....and you will thank yourself  ;)
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: DreadRock on Aug 08, 2013, 23:17:32
Pulled covers off filters and mounted the air dam on top of the valve cover . With doing nothing other then that just wanted to see and started back up . Ran ok didn't take it out mind you just a beach start . Will work on it more this weekend but need to read and get pilots first !
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Post by: DreadRock on Aug 14, 2013, 17:06:02
  Did some work on the carbs with following (petes ?) guild . Timing is on and have a new box of plugs I picked up at Mid-ohio . Gaps on plugs are right so did a few test runs and seemed very close . Found out my kill switch wasn't working as it should after pulling the Newtronics out so need to mess with that to get a good true plug chop. Did take it out for a loop around town and all was good till ( cough ) ran out of gas about mile from the house . Call the wife and after she stoped laughing said she would be right there LOL Now I like to try and use local bike shops for stuff but trying to find jets is like trying to find gold it seems . So called CPW and there on the way .....

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/outofgas1_zpsbd6e11f6.jpg) (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/dreadrock1/media/outofgas1_zpsbd6e11f6.jpg.html)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/outofgas_zps3d4496d8.jpg) (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/dreadrock1/media/outofgas_zps3d4496d8.jpg.html)

Sexy but out of gas Sexy !!!
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Post by: Big Rich on Aug 14, 2013, 20:47:00
Think of all the weight savings of having an empty tank of gas! True "cafe racer" spirit, I say......

Bike's looking great Scotty. Looking for jets, huh? If only you had a friend 2 hours away with trays of spares...... :)
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Aug 14, 2013, 21:28:06
Hell yeah, Scott!
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Post by: Maritime on Aug 14, 2013, 22:53:11
Nice work Scott.  You'll have dialed in no time.

Sent from my MB525 using Tapatalk 2

Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: DreadRock on Aug 21, 2013, 19:05:12
 More jets should be here tommrow but trying to work out a bug in the kill button now . It worked fine when the Newtronics turd was in and after the points went in had one wire to nothing . My kill/starter button is in one unit and has 4 wires coming out . Starter button works fine but no kill button now . One wire is to stater , two are to coils I believe and 4th just there any ideas ? I tried and thought it might be a ground but when grounded it to battery popped the fuse  :o
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: Doogie on Aug 21, 2013, 19:29:25
Sick bike man...really like the styling.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: DeanJ on Aug 21, 2013, 19:47:46

More jets should be here tommrow but trying to work out a bug in the kill button now . It worked fine when the Newtronics turd was in and after the points went in had one wire to nothing . My kill/starter button is in one unit and has 4 wires coming out . Starter button works fine but no kill button now . One wire is to stater , two are to coils I believe and 4th just there any ideas ? I tried and thought it might be a ground but when grounded it to battery popped the fuse  :o


Not sure about that switch housing and what comes out of it, however here is what the stock wiring looks like:


The Brown is the 12v+ pos from your main switch (your key)

The Red with white wire goes to the coils when the kill is in the "run" position feeding 12v + pos ( yes, this one wire feeds both coils 12v+, the L & R ignition circuits are separated at the individual contact breakers, not at this side of the circuit )

The Blue with white sends 12v - neg to the starter solenoid  (when you push the starter button, it complete the circuit by grounding with the housing ( or ? in your non stock switch )  . The 12v+ at the solenoid is supplied by the main switch ) 

The Black is a ground 12v- neg

hope this helps, Dean
 
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: DreadRock on Aug 23, 2013, 14:03:27
O it helped Dean as I got the kill switch working last night ! So now this weekend I can dial in the carbs as there really close with no covers on the filters LOL bike was sounding real sting last night just didn't have time to get it out on the road ! Thanks for the help
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: DeanJ on Aug 23, 2013, 14:10:36
 :) happy to help !

now be patient with the carb tuning.. no shortcuts !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: SeekingZero on Aug 23, 2013, 22:13:25
I can't believe you are still carb tuning.  I am not looking forward to that!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: DreadRock on Aug 23, 2013, 22:37:43
 Think biggest thing I've learn with carbs is " Only do one thing , then try it , to many changes and you just never know what did what !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: DreadRock on Aug 28, 2013, 11:00:30
  Because i cant leave things alone and keep telling myself " I got it, the carbs are right " ! Which if youve worked on carbs thats hardly ever true ! Well been riding the bike for a few days and im still not happy over all with the fell of the throttle . So last night i messed with them lil more to see if i can get a nice crisp feel . Well i think im one step closer now as theres NO hesitation now on the bottom end . And the fun continues ...........


Carb Tuning is a sickness i say !!!!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Aug 28, 2013, 11:22:12
We will have to get together for a ride soon, man!
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: DreadRock on Aug 30, 2013, 10:43:10
You know it my friend !

Rode the monkey to work today and as I was pulling into my shop to bike just wanted to die. Rolled in and hit the button and nothing , took a look and no headlight . Got it out back to take a look and found the charger quick connect was hanging under my seat and the open side of it was resting on my frame so I think it sucked all the power out of the battery ! OOOppppps LOL
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: Maritime on Aug 30, 2013, 10:52:05
LOL, that battery may be toast but get a charge on it quick and you may save it.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: Big Rich on Aug 30, 2013, 11:10:36
Scott, is it a Battery Tender connection? If so, the exposed metal on the connection is the ground.

I can't remember what type of trickle charger you are using......
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: DreadRock on Aug 30, 2013, 11:38:19
LOL yea the exposed bullet was just laying  Against the frame ! Have a charge on the way and a cover for it ! You know it was one of those thing that I saw it and keep telling myself might be a problem but didn't do anything also thinking Ooo it ok ! How wrong that thought was LOL live and learn !
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: DreadRock on Aug 30, 2013, 11:57:25
  Even tho i had problems this morning i did have it out last night and took a few pics .....

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/bshot1_zps9fe20127.jpg) (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/dreadrock1/media/bshot1_zps9fe20127.jpg.html)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/bshot2_zpsd21e1287.jpg) (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/dreadrock1/media/bshot2_zpsd21e1287.jpg.html)
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/Bshot_zpsfd20edb4.jpg) (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/dreadrock1/media/Bshot_zpsfd20edb4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: Azbiker on Aug 30, 2013, 15:27:51
Love it! Nice shots.
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: DreadRock on Sep 02, 2013, 13:53:07
Thank you sir !

Well been running the bike all weekend and got the lower part of the carb good . Did a WOT plug chop and was a lil lean at 120 so bumped up to 140 . Seems to have been a big improvement ! That is till now LOL ..... Put the 140s in and took it out for a on / off throttle trip ,got about 15/20 miles in and bike seemed to run out of gas . Looked down and all was good there ! Came to a stop and dead on side of rode ... O well that's why the call it working the bugs out . On a side note think everyone with a bike that drove by stopped to ask if they can help !!!! I think it has renewed my faith in bike folk  :) waiting for truck and trailer to show to get it home and check out the problem LOL
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics and video )
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Sep 02, 2013, 16:30:42
Ha. Good luck, man!
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Post by: two-smoker on Sep 02, 2013, 17:49:19
Did you line your tank? When my buddy and I put his bike together, we had tons of issues with stalling... Turned out there was dirt in the tank blocking the pickups. So we'd let it sit for a few, the dirt would settle out, and it'd start right up, but after riding a short ways, the dirt would block the pickup, and it'd stall again. Very frustrating....
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 02, 2013, 18:58:33
No it's not the tank it's either A: wiring or B: battery I'm thinking ! Once I stoped it wouldn't even turn over and had no head light . Ill get it figured out if its not one thing it's another  :o
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Post by: Big Rich on Sep 02, 2013, 20:15:16
Scott, I rode my GS down to Troy's a couple months ago and it died on me at a gas station (obvious weak battery). Mine was just a bullet connector came loose in the charging system..... Hopefully your problem has an easy solution!
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 02, 2013, 21:12:22
Yea Rich cant see it been to big a deal just need to flow the wires and see if any are loose .
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 03, 2013, 10:20:21
What's the best way to check a charging system anyone ?
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Post by: VonYinzer on Sep 03, 2013, 10:36:34
Fire up the bike and check voltage coming off the stator throughout the rev range.
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Post by: bradj on Sep 03, 2013, 10:44:20
You should dump those points and get a nice electronic ing
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 03, 2013, 11:46:36
You should dump those points and get a nice electronic ing

 HA ! Next thing youll tell me is sell those Yams and Get a Honda because you meet nicer people on them LOL

Fire up the bike and check voltage coming off the stator throughout the rev range.

Thanks mike will give it a go !
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 05, 2013, 12:16:42
  Started to look over my Elec parts to see where the problem is and after letting the battery sit and charge wanted to start there. I checked the battery with a meter and it read 14.6 with key off and seemed high ? Thought it should read around 12 with nothing on and and drop a lil when started to 11 then back up to 14 with revs ? I only did they battery test and still need to start to check where it reads on start up and on revs . But was wondering if im reading it wrong at 14.6 ????
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Post by: SONIC. on Sep 05, 2013, 13:23:06
Let it settle after it gets off the charge to let it dissipate the surface charge.
You should be seeing 12.6+
When its running it should be above 12 all the time, and depending on your regulator between 13 and 15 when you rev it out.
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 05, 2013, 18:14:39
Let it settle after it gets off the charge to let it dissipate the surface charge.
You should be seeing 12.6+
When its running it should be above 12 all the time, and depending on your regulator between 13 and 15 when you rev it out.

Just ran thru this lay out and just to be sure I'm on this right I should have the meter set on : VDC 200 correct ?
If so was are 12+ on a cold battery , droped some on start up then 12.9 to 13.2 on idle , and 12 to 14,15 at around 3 to 4 grand ! It stayed that way the full time . So I guess I should ask could it be my R/R getting to hot ?
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Post by: john83 on Sep 05, 2013, 21:54:50
Sounds like the R/R is working correctly. The voltages you listed are in the correct range for idle and revving.
There is a chance that the R/R is not operating correctly once it gets hot or you could have some kind of current drain while the bike is running that is sapping the battery.
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 06, 2013, 17:23:08
Yea John was thinking same thing ! Will mess with it lil more over the weekend ! Thanks for your help guys !
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 11, 2013, 10:36:56
Looked over the wiring and found a loose wire and it did seem to fix the problem ! Bikes been running strong over the last week or so and am very Happy with it now minus a few small things like the sprocket but can live with it till winter rolls in ! Plan now is to enjoy the ride till winter rolls in and change sprocket and rewire the whole bike to clean up and do it right !
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Post by: Maritime on Sep 11, 2013, 10:38:21
Hurray Scott, sounds good.
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Post by: Big Rich on Sep 11, 2013, 11:12:22
If only all fixes were so easy......

Congrats Scott!
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Post by: Ichiban Moto on Sep 11, 2013, 12:09:04
very nice bike !   :D
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Post by: Wahoo650 on Sep 11, 2013, 13:12:29
Sounds like a group ride is in order!
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 11, 2013, 15:26:48
Yep sounds like it Matt ! Problem for me is I work on Sats and seems to be the best day for most others ! Will try to work something out hopefully befor winter LOL
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Post by: Wahoo650 on Sep 16, 2013, 07:55:49
Distinguished Gentlemen's Ride is on a Sunday (9/29)!  Meet-up for ours is pretty central- right off 77 on the south side.   There's also a show out at Wiseco in Mentor this upcoming Sunday, 9/21.  You should enter the 500, you would probably do very well.  I think there's going to be a bunch of us riding out to it.  Either way, definitely need to do a fall meet-n-greet ride.  The season, such as it was, is almost over!
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Post by: DreadRock on Mar 18, 2014, 12:26:06
  Well Spring is springing ( LOL ) here in ohio so the 500 is back on the stand ! Need to do a few small things but over all cant wait to get it out on the road for a full summer of fun ! 

 Im looking for a new or in good shape RD400 rear sprocket think I have a 37T now and think I need something around 42T ! Anyone out there have one hang on the wall and don't need it let me know please ! Besides that just need to replace a few bolts I don't like and just do a look over !

BRING ON THE SUMMER !!!!!!!!!
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Post by: DeanJ on Mar 18, 2014, 13:58:58
Hey Scott, stock standard US spec RD400 is a 38T ...   the stock US  spec XS500 is a 42T

you might want to post a "wanted " over at the XS forum or check with Jimmer .. somebody is sure to have a new stock rear sprocket.

( btw, it's always a good idea to replace both sprockets and chain all at the same time if you can.. fyi )

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Post by: DreadRock on Mar 18, 2014, 14:22:24
  yea Dean that was my next place to go and I agree on changing everything at once . But the chain , front sprocket, and rear where all new and only have a few miles on it from the fall ! I needed a starting spot so I put a stock XS on the front and a Stock RD on the rear as the rear is a RD wheel . Once I got it out on the road it became clear the rear was to small as I had 0 get up from a stop but had all kinds of top end . LOL great for the salt flats maybe but not for every day use !
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Post by: DeanJ on Mar 18, 2014, 14:36:04
Ha ! yeah, the 42T will then feel like you can do a 3 sec 0-60 after having run that little sprocket   ;D !

sounds like you just need the rear then, should be easy enough to find.
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Post by: DreadRock on May 08, 2014, 12:12:34
  Well the weather cleared up and warmed up so took day off work to work around the house ( on bikes ) ! Took the 500 out to mess with and hooked up the GoPro to see whats going on . For some reason ( im a computer dumbass ) but cant get the video up still learning this thing LOL But took this video of the speedo from the video , yea its a shity pic but again ^^^^^^^^^ ! Its getting there but still not perfect and I wont stop till it is !!!!!!!

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h331/dreadrock1/a85mph_zpsae4b2159.jpg) (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/dreadrock1/media/a85mph_zpsae4b2159.jpg.html)
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Post by: SrgtBear on May 08, 2014, 12:49:52
Use the GoPro editing software.  It's not the greatest for editing but it's the easiest for getting the video on your computer in a readable format.  They it will allow for export to YouTube, Vimeo, HD, etc formats.  Then you simply upload to youtube then post the link here.

YouTube takes awhile to process the HD so that's the only pain...   Looking forward to seeing some video.
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Post by: Big Rich on May 08, 2014, 18:07:04
Keep at it, brother!

What's it doing at your top speed? I'm curious as to why it topped out so early....
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Post by: DreadRock on May 08, 2014, 19:48:29
  Didn't really top out I ran out of room  ;D Which turned into a good thing because as soon as I droped down to 55 because of a car a copper passes by LOL if I figure out editing the video I put it up .

 As for whats it doing it still is bad at 1/4 open . Seems to idle fine then at 1/4 open it gets boggie and if you can get it passed 1/4 seems fine . Also seemed to have picked up a air leak bike was coming down off throttle slow ? but think I got that fixed after I looked over cable to make sure was running smoothbut ended up finding it around the intakes .

 Settings now : main 145
                       pilot  30
              needle clip  bottom
              air screw    3/4 out

Floats have been measured and timing is right ,no air leaks , good gas , valves set , good plugs so sooner or later ill get it !!


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Post by: SrgtBear on May 08, 2014, 21:41:43
It sounds like your main might be too big. That sudden surge of fuel might be too much.  I had a 120 in mine initially and it ran great. Bumped up to 135. A tad rich but I feel more comfortable with being richer over leaner. But I would say anything higher I would be running into your same situation.
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Post by: DreadRock on May 08, 2014, 22:05:29
   Funny you say that because sense I started messing with them every time I change something I write it down . Looking back at my notes the closes set up I had was :

main 120
pilot 30
needle 4th down from top
air screw 1/2 out

 With that setting it ran the best but was missing something still . I hate just jumping back to it but from what you say the 120s seem to do the trick ! Could you post up your setting on your carbs when you can ?
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Post by: SrgtBear on May 08, 2014, 22:08:13
I have something not too far off.

135 Main

50 slow

1 turn out

4th needle clip


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Post by: Vagabond on May 08, 2014, 22:08:43
 :o
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Post by: DreadRock on May 10, 2014, 09:19:47
Ted was looking over your build and are those carb settings for the stock carbs or VMs ?

As for the GoPro I've tried to use the there editing . I can pull the video on it , convert it but not edit it ? Seen alot of people are have same problem just can't figure it out . Might be me or my Computer not sure LOL
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Post by: SrgtBear on May 10, 2014, 10:16:41
Stock CV carbs.


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Post by: DreadRock on May 10, 2014, 10:57:42
I see might be lil diff with VMs but they seem close going to mess with them later today !
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Post by: SrgtBear on May 10, 2014, 11:41:48
Yeah. Same engine. So might as well experiment.


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Post by: DreadRock on May 19, 2014, 21:04:45
Well got the 500 out and really good from bottom to top so carbs are staying were there at !
 Main 140
Pilot. 35
Needle 4 down from top
A/S 1/4 out

But when I took it out ran about 10 miles or so and just lost power . Pulled over and would not turn over and had no headlight ! So I need to figure that out  >:(
Title: Re: Out in a field Build ... XS 500 The Sock Monkey ( Finished pics ,video, )
Post by: SrgtBear on May 19, 2014, 21:14:50
Maybe you coil is overheating itself or something electrical is getting to hot. That's the only other thing I can think of.  You using right amp fuse?
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Post by: Big Rich on May 19, 2014, 21:42:12
How well is it regulating the charge at higher rpm's? Thinking maybe the headlight bulb got too much voltage and burnt up.....

But that's good news about the jetting!
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on May 19, 2014, 23:00:18
So close.

Mid O is just around the corner.
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Post by: DreadRock on May 20, 2014, 12:51:38
Maybe you coil is overheating itself or something electrical is getting to hot. That's the only other thing I can think of.  You using right amp fuse?

 Coils are new and the fuse is a 20amp so im not sure that's it . Wondering if its the battery its self ? it will charge but not charge when running the bike ?

How well is it regulating the charge at higher rpm's? Thinking maybe the headlight bulb got too much voltage and burnt up.....

But that's good news about the jetting!

Not sure rich on the rpms .
its acting like the bike is just running on the battery cause was running fine then starts running rough then dies and wont restart . turn the key and head light is very dim and bike wont turn over . Go home throw charger on it and it fires right up . In the next day or so will get out with a volt meter and see what I can find !

So close.

Mid O is just around the corner.

Yea lets hope I get it fixed !
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Post by: Big Rich on May 20, 2014, 13:37:00
Here's what I'm thinking Scotty: your R/R is burnt up causing excessive voltage which burns up the headlight bulb. And that excessive voltage heading back to the stator can burn it up as well, so the bike just runs for an hour or so off the battery.

Just something to think about!
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Post by: DreadRock on May 20, 2014, 16:45:53
 That would make sense Rich  :o I pick up the R/R used and will give it looking over first thing !
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Post by: john83 on May 20, 2014, 23:25:17
Here's what I'm thinking Scotty: your R/R is burnt up causing excessive voltage which burns up the headlight bulb. And that excessive voltage heading back to the stator can burn it up as well, so the bike just runs for an hour or so off the battery.

Just something to think about!

+1
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Post by: Hoosier Daddy on May 22, 2014, 05:38:31
Just throwing this out there... might help.



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Post by: Maritime on May 22, 2014, 08:35:50
Just throwing this out there... might help.





Hoosier, that looks like a gem of a doc. I didn't read it all but from what I saw it could help a lot of folks. Maybe should be a sticky.
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Post by: DreadRock on May 22, 2014, 11:19:42
Hoosier, that looks like a gem of a doc. I didn't read it all but from what I saw it could help a lot of folks. Maybe should be a sticky.

I agree mike ! Thanks for the info Hoosier ill have to print it out to go over it !
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Post by: Hoosier Daddy on May 22, 2014, 16:31:42
Ahhh Shucks guys...
Actually I think I got it from here... been so long I forget.
I'll throw it up onto the electrical help section when I get home.
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 02, 2014, 22:48:47
Well got around to testing the Generator and its all good so are sure all the wiring was sound . Only thing that still has a ? Is the R/R ! On the hunt for a replace ment then back out on the road !

Thanks for the help guys !
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Post by: DeanJ on Jun 03, 2014, 10:57:59
Check with Jimmer, he probably has it
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 03, 2014, 11:23:45
Think I found one or two ! Brad is looking in his stock pile and a riding buddy thinks he has one one !

It is nice to know the carbs are good to go and now once its in place I can go out for more then a few miles LOL kind of brought back Memories of getting my FJ Sorted out LOL
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 26, 2014, 12:24:23
So last night I'm fitting the new R/R to the 500 and it worked just not like it should . The battery is sitting at just below 14 but when starting the bike and go give it some revs it would drop to 13 . Now I'm by no means a electrical genius but it's not doing what it should sooooo the plan is to pull all the wiring out and make a new harness ! I'm doing this because what I did was take the stock harness and basicly cut it up to make it work which is not the best idea . Guess its a nother lesson learned LOL I believe looking at my harness with this cut here or this connected kind of make shift the something is not right in the harness it self ????
So back up on the table it goes ! Now it could be ok just to keep messing with what I have but in my mind I should of done this in the first place but I didn't ! So guess the story of the monkey moves on and time to learn something new and how to do it !
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Post by: Big Rich on Jun 26, 2014, 17:47:39
I dunno about that Scott. That sounds like a lot of work in the middle of riding season. If it was me, I'd look for the specific wiring issue (bad ground, frayed stator wire, etc) and maybe redo the harness over winter.

I just figure if your charging problem is NOT the wiring, then you won't be any further ahead.
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 28, 2014, 11:31:52
I don't like you Rich your making me think to hard LOL
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Post by: DreadRock on Jul 13, 2014, 12:16:20
Well rich was right  ;D it didn't take rewiring the bike to fix it !

  Over the weekend brad,justin,doc hung out and helped out and after replacing the charging system and found that wasn't it figured it was in the wiring . LOL well the problem was when I was cleaning up the wiring I switched two plugs that have the same connections and now its charging and see what else I need to fix which I hope is nothing .

 So now the Monkey is off my lift and the FJ is ON !!!
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Post by: Wahoo650 on Jul 13, 2014, 13:01:11
Fantastic!  So will we see you and the Monkey at Mods and Rockers next month?
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Post by: DreadRock on Jul 13, 2014, 13:15:04
Don't have many days off left so would depend on the day ?
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Post by: Earlysport on Jul 14, 2014, 04:48:24
Very nice build - stance, color, lines all very impressive!

Earlysport
Yamaha XS400 DOHC project
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Post by: DreadRock on Jul 15, 2014, 22:00:43
Very nice build - stance, color, lines all very impressive!

Earlysport
Yamaha XS400 DOHC project

Thanks but seems the tinkering is never done tho ......

So the fun never stops it seems  >:(
Took the monkey out to enjoy a nice ride and to see if all is well . Well it not or not fully as I went about 4 miles and all was well . Stop at buddy's shop for 10 mins , then went another 5-7 miles and again all seemed well but for a funny idle , no big deal . Ran the 5 miles home and just seemed to be running really rich till I pulled in my shop and bike died and would not fire back up ! I pulled the seat off and check battery ....
Now here's the real odd thing is when I first stoped  I checked the battery and it was just over 13.00 but when I check once I got home it was at 10.00 but slowly going up 10.01,10.02,10.03 and so on ! Now it's been sitting for 15 min and it's at 11.39 and stoped !


What in the nine hells is going on ?????????
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Post by: Big Rich on Jul 15, 2014, 22:17:50
Very strange indeed......

Could the battery be bad? Maybe not accepting the charge from the stator, but discharging while in use?
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Post by: bradj on Jul 16, 2014, 00:01:18
Put that battery next to the english electronic ing
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Post by: DreadRock on Jul 16, 2014, 00:11:50
Yea rich I think might be it and Brad brought up the same thing about the battery.

Think it very all could be from have problem with elec points , coils , on the charger to long , draining the battery to low... etc etc ! Got it on charger to have load tested
 
I did read that shorais can be testie !
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Post by: Wahoo650 on Jul 19, 2014, 10:38:28
Here's the link- register now.  Ride anything, it's a great weekend.

http://www.clevelandmodsvsrockers.com/
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Post by: DreadRock on Jul 19, 2014, 11:28:10
Put that battery next to the english electronic ing

Could be brad !

Here's the link- register now.  Ride anything, it's a great weekend.

http://www.clevelandmodsvsrockers.com/

Might make it up Sunday to check it out will let u know !
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Post by: VonYinzer on Jul 19, 2014, 22:40:50
Running the battery with the crossed wiring may have fried it...
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Post by: DreadRock on Jul 27, 2014, 11:31:50
Running the battery with the crossed wiring may have fried it...

Yea doc !

 But took battery down and had it loaded tested and there saying its good  :-\ So now not sure which way to go ?????? could be wiring could be head light could be tail light could be ignition could be could be .........

 Think I need to take a step back on this for awhile befor I do something like rip it all apart  :o
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Post by: bradj on Jul 27, 2014, 16:19:01
push it in the corner well get next year
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Post by: DreadRock on Jul 28, 2014, 11:47:15
 Might just be that way brad !!!  :'(
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Post by: Big Rich on Aug 09, 2014, 21:42:28
Any updates on your electrical woes, Scott?
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Post by: DeanJ on Aug 10, 2014, 08:59:05
drop it off here, I'll sort it out for you  :)
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Post by: DreadRock on Aug 11, 2014, 13:19:37
Any updates on your electrical woes, Scott?

No man im taking a step back for a bit and clear my head with it ! Once the FJ is done and on the road ill get right back on it .....

drop it off here, I'll sort it out for you  :)

 Thanks for the offer dean but I might need to take you up on it LOL
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Post by: DreadRock on Jan 02, 2015, 10:50:02
Well happy New year all !
  So I'm back on the lil 500 to rewire the whole bike . Its the one thing that didn't get done so it's time for me to go for it . I'm by no means a wire guy its the one thing I have a hard time with so please be nice lol First thing is to pull all the chop up wiring and get a clean start !

 The plan : very simple wiring head light, taillight,breaklight,coils,points,charging system.!
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Post by: two-smoker on Jan 03, 2015, 16:34:54
Glad to see you back at it!
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Post by: Big Rich on Jan 03, 2015, 19:31:54
Agreed. Take your time, you've got all winter.
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Post by: DreadRock on Jan 14, 2015, 10:51:22
Been l2ooking over wiring diagrams and i hate to say it but i get so lost its s as d LoL So talked to few guys and think im going to have matt ( www.sparckmoto.com) build me one and be done with it !
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Post by: DreadRock on Jan 23, 2015, 10:17:24
Question ? If i run a R/R do i need a condenser ? Getting ready to order new wiring harness and want to get my shit togeather first !
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Post by: Maritime on Jan 23, 2015, 10:21:20
Yep, condenser is part of the ignition, nothing to do with the RR really. the RR protects all the lights and electrics from getting fried by voltage greater then 14.5V the condenser if I remember correctly smooths out and partly stores the juice on the way to the coil.
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Post by: DreadRock on Jan 23, 2015, 11:08:51
Cool thanks mike !
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 21, 2015, 19:17:53
 IM BACK ON IT ( I think ) !!!
   Bad thing happened as I was going to order a wiring harness from Sparck Moto but my trucks motor blow up the day befor I was going order it ! So have to save for newish truck and been rideing the FJ to work every day ( not a bad thing lol ). If you need help matts the man to look to for a harness .
  So to save the coin for the truck if I want to fix the elec problem ill have to take it on myself or just let the 500 sit there and I HATE it just sitting there . So for good or bad im going to try and do the wiring myself , cant say how or how long but I pulled the cover off the 500 today and looking over the wiring I had in it ! Just wanted to thro up a ( IM STILL ALIVE AND SO IS THE MONKEY ) post !
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Post by: Vagabond on Jun 21, 2015, 19:38:38
Nice!
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Jun 21, 2015, 22:50:04
Huzzah!
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Post by: DreadRock on Jul 14, 2015, 11:47:08
So over the weekend brad justin Jamie Russ help me out on the wiring ( big thanks guys ) ! Will just have to clear it up and pick up diff RR and condenser .

So on the condenser for a twin were is a good place to find what is needed for the 500 ? I see ones with one wire and ones with 2 wires ? I m thinking the one with a wires would do the job or 2 of the one wire ones will work ? Am I wrong on my thinking ?
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Post by: Ichiban Moto on Jul 14, 2015, 13:07:58
As I will be changing my ignition over to my home-built Ichiban custom ecu module , I don't need the condenser off my project bike.  It's yours free if you want to pm me. 

  ....but there are new units on ebay for $9.99 http://www.ebay.com/itm/390398143131
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Post by: DreadRock on Jul 14, 2015, 13:49:52
Thanks Ichiban ! PM sent
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Post by: DreadRock on Jul 14, 2015, 22:11:32
Spent some time tagging all the wires now need to Mark whats what . Been reading on which wires size to use through out the bike. I'm running heavy gauge wire on starter and main ground .
 Would 18g be the wire size for rest of bike or diff gauge ?
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Post by: DreadRock on Jul 21, 2015, 19:44:21
Wow what service at Ichiban moto !!!! I order a condenser other day and it showed up befor I knew it and on top of that I got may I say some BadAss " Ichiban moto" stickers !!!!!!
Thanks again sir !!!
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Post by: Ichiban Moto on Jul 21, 2015, 20:21:52
bad ass !

when you get those stickies installed, post up a pic and I'll use it in a video  ;D
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Post by: DreadRock on Aug 18, 2015, 20:42:23
Nothing to add on wiring for the moment !

 Picked up a KTM 300 2smoke to part out if not build for fun always wanted some form of dirt tracker ???? Also picked a 84 nighthawk 700c with a blown motor to the point the 2nd cylinder connecting rod is sticking out the back of the motor lol so I'm parting it out to a few guys here first . its a shame because its a very clean bike with a title . anyways I'm keeping a few parts , like the shocks ....

There a few other small things that might change ! The nighthawk has a neat lil gear indicator I might have a look at to see how it works will see ... Here's a pick of the nighthawk s motor....
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Post by: irk miller on Aug 18, 2015, 21:46:00
Big fan of those rims.  Looking pretty sexy.
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 11, 2015, 23:50:47
I think I'm ready  :-[

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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Sep 12, 2015, 12:11:59
Huzzah!
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Post by: Maritime on Sep 12, 2015, 12:19:05
Good luck. If it gets bad,  stop and have a beer, or a rum, or a smoke, then continue.
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 13, 2015, 10:33:34
Well after a few hours last night I got to this point ! Have a few things left befor firing it up tho...,,,

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Post by: Maritime on Sep 13, 2015, 23:27:29
Yay.  Looks close.
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 14, 2015, 10:47:33
OK so befor I try and fire the 500 up again I would like to make sure I have the RR right its the only thing I'm not 100% . the RR is from matt ( SPARCKMOTO.com for Honda 4s on my Yamaha 500 !

 Honda R/R = 3 yellow wires            Yamaha wires = 3 white        So that's a no brainer
                     1 green                                                             
                     1 red
                     1 black
                     1 white
 
 As for the Yamaha plug = has a green,black,blue,and what looks like white all in plug comeing from the motor including the 3 white to 3 yellow on the RR .
on my Yamaha wiring diagram says this = Green =AC generater
                                                             black   = ground
                                                             blue    =  main switch
                                                             white =   ???
So after talking to matt on the Honda RR works like this ....

                                                          3 yellow = 3 white   ( Check )
                                                           black = voltage sensing ( power sources that's always on )blue or brown on Yamaha
                                                          white = is power wire that leads to exciter for alternator
                                                            red = ???

 Right now I have the wires like this       3 yellow to white
                                                           1 black to key on
                                                           1 green to green on plug to motor
                                                           1 white to white on motor
                                                           1 red to power ( + on battery )
 
So sound right , seems right but not 100% any help out there befor I try and fire this up ?
                                                           
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 14, 2015, 10:49:50
Pic of RR.....

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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 14, 2015, 14:59:53
Well its fired back up after a small problem with the lighting wire , didn't have a lead to the key right . Now just need to make sure its charging right reset the carbs and few small things and hope to have it out on the road again to see if alls good !
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Post by: VonYinzer on Sep 14, 2015, 15:47:20
Hell ya man. Good for you.

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Post by: two-smoker on Sep 15, 2015, 13:02:48
If I still had ready access to mine, I'd be some help, since I did the Honda R/R on mine as well.... But I don't, so I'm not.
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 15, 2015, 14:37:01
Put the meter on it last night and was getting ..... 12.6/13 at idle and 14.5/15.6 at 2500 rpms so seems like its working ! Have a few things I need to check over this weekend to see if all's well !
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Post by: john83 on Sep 17, 2015, 09:50:23
Put the meter on it last night and was getting ..... 12.6/13 at idle and 14.5/15.6 at 2500 rpms so seems like its working ! Have a few things I need to check over this weekend to see if all's well !

Sweet!
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Post by: JustinLonghorn on Sep 17, 2015, 10:44:57
Get it into the wind yet?
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 17, 2015, 11:01:03
Get it into the wind yet?

That's the plan this weekend my friend !!!
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Post by: Maritime on Sep 17, 2015, 11:03:54
Wooohooo, hope all goes well. Been a long haul but looks like all the bugs are worked out now.
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Post by: DreadRock on Sep 21, 2015, 22:58:29
Wooohooo, hope all goes well. Been a long haul but looks like all the bugs are worked out now.

It did mike thanks ! Just took it out around the block and charging seemed to be working altho I think I need to change the gas ,change rear spocket, look over points,and take it back out soon as I find a spocket need to go up a few teeth . From a dead stop its a dog but once you get moving it has no problem ! Has a stock RD400 rear and stock XS500 front good for speed bad for around town lol
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 23, 2016, 19:02:41
Been some time but back to messing with the monkey ! Was having a lot of leaks from the carb boots so went with these !

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Post by: SrgtBear on Jun 23, 2016, 19:36:09
Nice!  I've read those work great with Mikuni VM32s. Take pics and let me know how they fit. I'm thinking of doing the same thing.


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Post by: Maritime on Jun 23, 2016, 20:58:13
Nice glad to see you are still at it
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 24, 2016, 13:52:50
I did a test fit with ever thing from mounts to filters. So far I'm really happy with the fit and finish,much better then stock stuff. As in the post on xs500 forum my ports a novel and new boots are round . when mounted there is (maybe) 1/8 inch of lip on top and bottom. Its not a race bike so I think I'm going to leave them alone for now and once I get messing with tuning again see if it make a diff. I can see it could cause air flow to not be perfect so if that seems to be the case I'll pull them off and take off the edges ! Will see I guess and ill get some pics up . If anyone sees a problem with not smoothing out the ports and why please let me know !
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Post by: Maritime on Jun 24, 2016, 14:00:32
Nice Scott, glad to see you back at it!
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Post by: SrgtBear on Jun 24, 2016, 14:15:37
If anyone sees a problem with not smoothing out the ports and why please let me know !

I don't see why it would be a problem.  Like you said it's not a race bike.  Interested to hear about the results.
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 24, 2016, 19:56:40
Both of the same !
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Post by: DreadRock on Mar 02, 2017, 18:53:34
Been a min or two ( life ) but messing with the monkeys after a few nice days here in Ohio. I left the monkey out of pulling my hair out over a few things . But I'm back on it and hope to once and for all get the carbs right. I did regear it to ..... Front : 15 Back : 37   . Was looking over on XS500 forum and came across a member the did some dyno test for the vm32 carbs . My set up is close but for the needle jet and jet needle.

Mine : needle jet ... 159 p-6
            Jet needle .... 6DP17
Need : needle jet .....159 p-5
             Jet needle....6DH7

Can't seem to find any ? Any help out there ? Not 100% on numbers on my part try to find them to see if # match up with what I'm reading.Only diff from mine is the 2 into 1 pipes

http://www.xs500forum.com/index.php?topic=1625.msg9139#msg9139
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Post by: brad black on Mar 03, 2017, 18:52:04
whether or not it's a race bike is irrelevant.  there's no reason to leave obvious crap like that.
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Post by: The Limey on Mar 04, 2017, 14:27:54
The surface finish isn't critical on the intake side.  The rough surface will actually help creating turbulence and a properly mixed charge.  You want it nice and smooth on the way out though.

The reason that polished ports are not advantageous from a flow standpoint is that at the interface between the metal wall and the air, the air speed is zero. This is due to the wetting action of the air and indeed all fluids. The first layer of molecules adheres to the wall and does not move significantly. The rest of the flow field must shear past, which develops a velocity profile (or gradient) across the duct. For surface roughness to impact flow appreciably, the high spots must be high enough to protrude into the faster moving air toward the centre. Only a very rough surface does this.

The finish on our heroes intake wouldn't worry me in the slightest.
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Post by: brad black on Mar 04, 2017, 21:28:52
to clarify, i was talking about the mismatch top and bottom.  as limey says, smooth is bad.
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Post by: two-smoker on Mar 05, 2017, 00:20:41
I believe he's more worried about the difference in port shape between the head and the manifolds than the "finish" of the ports. If it was me, I'd bust out the dremel and match those ports. That sharp transition can't be good.

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Post by: brad black on Mar 05, 2017, 00:32:49
agreed
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Post by: DreadRock on Mar 05, 2017, 13:42:04
I believe he's more worried about the difference in port shape between the head and the manifolds than the "finish" of the ports. If it was me, I'd bust out the dremel and match those ports. That sharp transition can't be good.

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yep that's what I was thinking . will be doing this when I order thenew jets . thanks for all the info
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Post by: The Limey on Mar 05, 2017, 14:45:43
Ah, indeed.  Blindingly obvious and I missed it!  :P
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 08, 2017, 11:50:15
Well finally got the Jets from Jets R Us ! Going to work on them over the weekend and if need be clean up the small edge with a dremel . I'm hoping the new Jets and intakes solve my carburetor problems !!!
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Post by: SrgtBear on Jun 08, 2017, 11:53:00
I'm tuned in to see the results.


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Post by: two-smoker on Jun 08, 2017, 11:56:36
+1

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Post by: Maritime on Jun 08, 2017, 13:03:16
Good luck Scott hope you get it sorted for sure!
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 22, 2017, 20:27:54
Got jets in and throttle is so much better .. smooth no bogging ! Problem im having is, it  wont idle just dies when you let off throttle even with idle screws all the way in . And its really on the rich side  ? So im going over a few things to see what im missing and will let you know how it goes ! Other then that it seems going back in right direction .
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Post by: two-smoker on Jun 22, 2017, 21:42:19
You know about the little thumbscrews on the sides of the carbs that raise the slides, right? I don't want to assume, and I certainly don't want to insinuate you wouldn't, but.... Well...... I kinda made that mistake....

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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 22, 2017, 23:28:50
Lol yes .. I've turned them all the way in which should be opening the slide correct (high idle) and all way out close the slide (low idle). When I took off the pods it seemed to want to idle but still died. The rich problem I'm thinking I might have float stuck or floats need set again . Small issues but feeling good about where it's heading
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Post by: MotorbikeBruno on Jun 23, 2017, 21:16:51
Mixture screw setting?

http://www.xs500forum.com/index.php?topic=1426.15
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Post by: DreadRock on Jun 24, 2017, 08:48:22
Pulled carbs off bike to pull them apart to make sure all Jets are clean. Reasons for doing this is it sat on the stand for a while and had gas in it. When I started back with new Jets I cleaned them out but think not good enough. So I could have a clogged jet ? Will see
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Post by: brad black on Jun 24, 2017, 19:06:23
i have seen idle issues with slide carbs if the slides are too high at idle.  it's a bit hard to work out and fix when it won't idle at all, but the lower the slides can be the better ime.
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Post by: DreadRock on Jul 25, 2017, 22:13:19
Need more time ....more time !!!!

Other then that ... WTF Photobucket you ass wipes ? All most all my pics are now hostage till I pay up UF#*Ks ! Some of those pics I can't get back you bucket of ass hats !

Sorry have to rant ! I'll try and figure out what to do . Last thing I've done is clean carbs inside and out . Will look to see if slides are at lowest and floats are right .
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Post by: DreadRock on Jul 12, 2018, 19:40:09
WOW all my pics are back  :)  Yes I'm still here stalking in the back ground lol
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Post by: irk miller on Jul 12, 2018, 20:22:16
Why weren't you at Mid-O?  Don't you live near there?
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Post by: DreadRock on Jul 13, 2018, 13:16:23
Best way to say it is ..Ive been salty over the whole vintage bike scene ! When I 1st started going there years ago it was great ,good people good prices good times . Then I found the TON and meet even more good people . It don't seem that way now a days guys want big money for stuff that a few years ago was thrown out as junk. But thats my problem . But man do I miss hanging out down there !
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Post by: VonYinzer on Jul 13, 2018, 13:36:47
Next year man.
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Post by: DreadRock on Jul 13, 2018, 14:48:53
Yes sir !
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Post by: DreadRock on Aug 08, 2018, 21:20:22
Messing with the 500 tonight and got it back started ! After it was running for a min just died and on looking at it looks as if there's no fuel in the lines ? Take the line off the carb and turn fuel on it's fine . So my question is ..floats stuck , jet clog ?
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Post by: MotorbikeBruno on Aug 09, 2018, 16:39:06
Open the drain screws on each carb and see which float/s may be stuck.  Odd though,as all 4 would have to be stuck if fuel wasn't going in.  (or 3 are full and the 4th is stuck)

Could also be the gas tank vent.  If clogged it acts like a pop bottle when you drink fast and don't let any air in. Slows the fuel flow considerably.  Try leaving the gas cap open and if it continues to run well, there's your problem.
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Post by: DreadRock on Aug 09, 2018, 19:47:28
Will give a look over thank you
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Post by: SrgtBear on Dec 07, 2018, 11:55:46
Hey DreadRock,

Just checking back in.  I want to get back into riding my XS500 but it's hard when my KZ650 runs so well.  I want to put some VM32's on the XS so I am curious how you made out in the end. 

I would going to purchase this kit and the intake boots you used but wanted to know what jets you ended up with...and did you get you issues worked out?
http://power-barn.com/mikuni-vm-carburetor-kit-for-honda-cb450-cl450-or-cb500t-oem-style/

Thanks,
Ted
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Post by: DreadRock on Jan 06, 2019, 10:52:15
Srgt, got it back to idle and up to mains ,then needed to do plug chop but winter set in . ill get you what i have so far once i get a sec . sorry took so long to reply .