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Title: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Mar 23, 2012, 01:51:22
So there comes a time in every mans life where he comes across a buy one get one in pieces deal... Well this happened to me in my early days. I would like to make this little pup a racer inspired ride. I don't want to take any shortcuts i can afford, I want it to be right and no half measures. That being said lets get to the nitty gritty.

For this bike I will definitely need some guidance(no i dont want you to hold me hands) on some aspects throughout this build. Also, be patient as I work offshore 6 months out of the year (month on month off). That being said here is a rough of my things I would like to do:

-rebuild engine and possibly overbore to a 400F(guidance here) Bought a 400F and bored to 466cc
-upgrade front end (GSX600 fork with XS650 hub and 19" rim, Race Tech spings & emulators)
-upgrade rear suspension
-lower sprocket gearing
-new carbs
-typical add ons
-make a better tank using original Bought a Benelli Mojave 360 tank from DeanJ on here
-new seat and cushion
-a full fairing
-new rims and tires
-clean it up
-oh and get a title for it haha!

Other than all of this, I am including some pictures of what the mess looks like now.. Oh and parts that I wont be using will be for sale on the cheap.. Like so cheap you want to take a shower after for feeling so dirty.

Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Mar 23, 2012, 02:18:22
I'm not much help for any of the technical stuff Ronnie - sorry. Just wanted to sign up for the build!
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: dodieninja on Mar 23, 2012, 23:19:26
looks like it would be a bucket load of fun. if you dont plan on keeping the tank and its in good shape pm me.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Apr 03, 2012, 17:58:33
So I didn't get much time this time off to work on my bike, and now I'm back on the boat for another 4 weeks. Good and bad. Good cause I can research and order parts and brainstorm, bad cause I'm not home to carry out those things. This time at work I want to order parts for the engine and do some looking up for a better front fork so I can possibly order a used front fork while I'm not at home. I'll keep this updated on my progress with this quest.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: surffly on Apr 03, 2012, 19:12:05
if the engine needs work you should think about finding a 400F.  MUCH better base...

Also do you have a stock rear wheel?  that wheel in the picture looks like a 16in harley wheel and its terrible for performance.

Since you are starting with a pile of parts it might be a good time to think about upgrading the suspension.
CB550 forks with dual disks?  GL forks with alloy rim?
inch TALLER shocks in the rear

Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Apr 03, 2012, 19:43:49
well I honestly don't know the extent of the engine, it rolls over with the kick start but that's as far as I went with it. Not sure on the back wheel but yea I was going to get new rims and spokes anyways. Yea, I would like to upgrade the front suspension but haven't gotten far enough to see what bikes fronts would fit the 350f and I was definitely upgrading the rear shocks cause those are old and outdated.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Apr 03, 2012, 19:45:32
And that was my thing too, if it would be worth upgrading the stock engine or looking for a 400f or maybe a twin of some sort like a 350 or 450.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: surffly on Apr 03, 2012, 19:59:02
400f bolts in
Twin doesnt and there is zero gain in making it fit....unless you just want to do it for the sake of work
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Apr 03, 2012, 23:18:44
I got ya.. well then I'll start my search for a 400f engine, any particular years I should look for?
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Apr 04, 2012, 01:30:40
All of them. They only made the 400F for three years, and they are all a huge step up from the 350F. Wait a minute.......from 1975 to 1977. They did make another "CB400F" in 89 I think. Completely different.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Apr 04, 2012, 16:42:52
Alright then... looks like I'm going to get a new motor soon haha! Would ya'll just go ahead and reman the whole thing(stator, points, clutch pads, etc)? I want to do over bore and porting if I can afford that... So heres to finding a new engine cheap!
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Apr 04, 2012, 16:50:13
There are relatively cheap 466 kits available for the 400F through eBay.

Find the 400F lump, you will not be disappointed.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Apr 05, 2012, 21:05:43
So I was looking online for a 400f engine.. and I came across 4.. 2 were stupid expensive and were missing things and then these too..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Honda-CB400F-CB400-CB-400-Super-Sport-engine-motor-/260980555686?hash=item3cc3a73fa6&item=260980555686&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr#ht_654wt_944 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Honda-CB400F-CB400-CB-400-Super-Sport-engine-motor-/260980555686?hash=item3cc3a73fa6&item=260980555686&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr#ht_654wt_944)

and this one,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONDA-CB400F-CB-400-F-Motor-Engine-1975-/370593264936?hash=item5649147528&item=370593264936&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr#ht_500wt_965 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONDA-CB400F-CB-400-F-Motor-Engine-1975-/370593264936?hash=item5649147528&item=370593264936&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr#ht_500wt_965)

I'm leaning towards the second one, which unfortuanately is more expensive. But it has all its covers and appears to have all electrics not rummaged through and wires are there. I priced some of the covers and electrics and it would cost me 55 for just the sprocket cover..

What do you guys think? I plan on going with electric ignition so should i just get the cheaper engine and hope someone has the covers later on?
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Apr 05, 2012, 21:07:20
Also, the expensive of the two has 6k less miles on it... not that it shouldn't matter, i'm rebuilding it anyways
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Von Kirk 75 dt250 on Apr 05, 2012, 21:42:58
damn...you got one helluva project on hand...
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: frogman on Apr 05, 2012, 22:42:02
Jebus, looks like the pile of crap I brought home a few months ago!  Good luck bro... ;D
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Apr 06, 2012, 13:44:51
Yea, I know.. Trying to keep this whole thing managable! Yea Frog, there are two buckets of parts that arent in the picture too!
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Apr 08, 2012, 18:03:10
So I was looking online for a 400f engine.. and I came across 4.. 2 were stupid expensive and were missing things and then these too..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Honda-CB400F-CB400-CB-400-Super-Sport-engine-motor-/260980555686?hash=item3cc3a73fa6&item=260980555686&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr#ht_654wt_944 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Honda-CB400F-CB400-CB-400-Super-Sport-engine-motor-/260980555686?hash=item3cc3a73fa6&item=260980555686&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr#ht_654wt_944)

and this one,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONDA-CB400F-CB-400-F-Motor-Engine-1975-/370593264936?hash=item5649147528&item=370593264936&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr#ht_500wt_965 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONDA-CB400F-CB-400-F-Motor-Engine-1975-/370593264936?hash=item5649147528&item=370593264936&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr#ht_500wt_965)

I'm leaning towards the second one, which unfortuanately is more expensive. But it has all its covers and appears to have all electrics not rummaged through and wires are there. I priced some of the covers and electrics and it would cost me 55 for just the sprocket cover..

What do you guys think? I plan on going with electric ignition so should i just get the cheaper engine and hope someone has the covers later on?

I'm bumping this reply cause one of the motors ends soon I believe..
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Apr 08, 2012, 21:25:03
I have a hard time with eBay recently because of my phone........but I would get the one that the motor seems in better condition. Covers and wires and such can be found fairly easily, but a rebuild can cost big $$$.

Hope that helps......
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Apr 08, 2012, 23:27:35
Well I plan on rebuilding and putting over-sized pistons in it.. That's why I am asking. I figured after getting covers and parts missing off the cheaper one, I would be spending the same amount if not more finding parts and paying shipping.. So I think I'm going to get the better of the two.. which is more expensive. But I was looking at the cheaper one and it doesn't even have a starter on it and those run a hundred or more.. Do you know of the cheapest/best shipper that ships items like that Rich?
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Apr 09, 2012, 00:18:42
Personally - I don't know. But is the starter from your 350f motor compatible?
Title: Re: "The Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Apr 09, 2012, 13:08:37
I'm not sure, but I'm going to get that engine sometime this week. So when I get it and I get back from offshore. I will sure let you know man. Most of those engines are similar so its a good possibility.. Going to use FedEx or Engineshipping dot com
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Apr 19, 2012, 21:39:52
Alas, I ordered the engine and should be getting it sometime within a week or so.. I'm currently offshore so I'm doing some away from home spending..

Question: There are two different 466cc piston kits on ebay, one is more expensive than the other. the expensive on is from austrailia and the cheaper is in Japan. Is there a difference in quality between the two countries?


Question: same for gaskets, will any set do or should I not get the cheapest set?
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Apr 23, 2012, 15:03:36
The engine was delivered over the weekend! And I ordered the 466cc piston kit and new engine gaskets.. So when I get off the ship next Tues.. I'll be tearing down that 400F engine! Oh I am going to order a SS engine bolt kit.. I know things are going to break off and strip.. i can see it now.

Side note, I have a week to decide my color scheme for the engine and fram at least... Need to get on that! Had a dream last night I was making my tank, it was vivid and I know how thats going to lay down! Other than that, I'm stoked and ready to get into it!
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: vehciular on Apr 28, 2012, 16:11:04
I replaced most of the hardware on my 350F with fresh stainless socket head cap screws.  I didn't have much trouble with stripped hardware (there were a few recalcitrant bolts, but 2-3 out of several dozen replaced over the whole bike), I just couldn't stand to look at all those rusty bolts any more...
Title: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: BCBarker on Apr 28, 2012, 22:25:23
As a 350f rider and lover, I'm in. Been thinking about the 400f swap for a while. There is one at my local junk yard with the frame for $100 bucks. Only catch is that is been frozen for 10 years and someone painted it blue. But it's inside! Can't wait to see how yours turns out.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Apr 29, 2012, 16:31:27
Yea I think those old bolts need to be retired haha.. and the stainless won't have problems down the road with getting seized as bad.

Oh a blue engine huh? Haha nice! Well it depends how "lockrd" up it is. I had a Perkins diesel engine for my boat was locked up just cause one piston had rust. The whole sleeve came out of it when we pressed it out so it was in there good. So you might have the same thing with that one. It only takes a drop of water to rust a ring to the block.. everything else might be good. You could go get the engine if its cheap enough and just pickle it with Marvel Mystery oil until your ready to do something with it... but thanks for following along, j hope I can make it what I want!

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Apr 29, 2012, 21:17:15
Ronnie, I highly recommend Duplicolor Metalcast paint for the motor. Comes in lots of colors, sprays nicely, chemical resistant, etc, etc.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Apr 30, 2012, 02:18:46
Rich, I was looking at the Duplicolor engine paints on their website and also VHT's engine paints.. Is the Dup. metalcast their engine paint? I dont remember the product name, I looked at it the other day.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Apr 30, 2012, 02:24:29
It's not "specifically" engine paint. It is made for intermittent high temp applications so it can be used on engines though.

Personally, I used their red paint on my seat and tank, their gold paint on my wheels, and their "smoked chrome" or whatever on a different engine.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Apr 30, 2012, 03:16:50
Oh ok I'll definitely check those out.. they sell that at Advance Auto and stores like that I assume?
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Apr 30, 2012, 03:27:12
Yeah, they sell the primer and 3 colors at most stores (purple is usually one of them though). I ordered any other colors from Summitracing.com.

There's some examples on Duplicolor's site too: an engine, I think a guitar, and some other stuff.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Apr 30, 2012, 03:29:56
Oh great, I'll probably have to order it too then haha.. I'm not doing anything in purple haha!
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: vehciular on Apr 30, 2012, 13:11:23
I have used VHT caliper paint with fantastic success on motors.  It will stick to a puddle of oil and is VERY chemical resistant, plus the 'Cast Aluminum' and gloss black colors are both VERY nice looking.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on May 10, 2012, 12:37:45
So I got my table finished, engine came in, and I started taking the head off. Just need to read the manual again and take the can chain off so I can finish taking it down. (http://img.tapatalk.com/a6f9c628-e028-eeda.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/a6f9c628-e03f-ae6c.jpg)

Just waiting on my pistons to come in and I can start the boring process. Also. Going to work on the frame and remove the swing down kickstand and unnecessary tabs and suck and sand/wire wheel it clean.. other than that life has been getting in the way of doing more. Like usual I assume. 


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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jul 04, 2012, 12:03:24
So, it's been a while since I have posted and I have done a good bit since.. I need to post pictures on here. I broke down the engine I'm waiting on my cam to get rephased, new springs and guides, painted engine parts, worked on the frame a bit. Now, I'm just waiting to find info on clearances for boring the new juggs to to the new 466 pistons. So its going pretty well..

I do however have a general question, Since my engine is broke down should I go ahead and change out the clutch plates? The engine had 15k+ miles on it and I dont know if they have been changed.. they are fairly cheap(around $40). Is the process hard and worth it?
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: fisherdude on Jul 04, 2012, 12:51:47
nice I'm going follow this
I used dupli color low gloss black eng. enamel looks bitchin if I do say so myself
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jul 04, 2012, 14:42:03
To recap what I have done in the past few months, I have broke my engine down, removed valves, pistons, and cam, heavily cleaned everything that can be seen, prepped and painted the engine, and worked on the frame cleaning it up getting rid of unnecessary tabs and metal(not done yet). No I am just waiting on machine work for the bigger bore pistons and my cam to be returned with higher performance phased and new valve springs. Also some tidbits from 400tt like cam tensioner, new guides, and a couple other nic-nacks.. I'm posting some pictures of my progress so far..

(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h469/riccar6/350F%20Cafe%20pieces/IMG_20120515_195330-1.jpg)

(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h469/riccar6/350F%20Cafe%20pieces/IMG_20120515_202239.jpg)

(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h469/riccar6/350F%20Cafe%20pieces/IMG_20120515_202802.jpg)

(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h469/riccar6/350F%20Cafe%20pieces/IMG_20120515_202811.jpg)

(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h469/riccar6/350F%20Cafe%20pieces/IMG_20120515_202841.jpg)

(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h469/riccar6/350F%20Cafe%20pieces/IMG_20120515_204526.jpg)

(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h469/riccar6/350F%20Cafe%20pieces/IMG_20120523_153625.jpg)

(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h469/riccar6/350F%20Cafe%20pieces/IMG_20120523_155136.jpg)

(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h469/riccar6/350F%20Cafe%20pieces/IMG_20120703_170120.jpg)

New pistons
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h469/riccar6/350F%20Cafe%20pieces/IMG_20120618_215410.jpg)

Cut off the bottom bike stand
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h469/riccar6/350F%20Cafe%20pieces/IMG_20120523_103105.jpg)

(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h469/riccar6/350F%20Cafe%20pieces/IMG_20120523_143546.jpg)


Painting time

(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h469/riccar6/350F%20Cafe%20pieces/IMG_20120630_095231.jpg)

(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h469/riccar6/350F%20Cafe%20pieces/IMG_20120630_111443.jpg)

(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h469/riccar6/350F%20Cafe%20pieces/IMG_20120630_141517.jpg)

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jul 04, 2012, 14:45:43
In the meantime, I have been enjoying my resto...
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Jul 04, 2012, 21:39:30
Wow, I thought you were out this whole time.

If you do change the clutch plates, wait until the new ones are soaked in oil overnight before pulling the old clutch apart - makes it easier to keep track of assembly order. And get new clutch springs with the new plates.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: MickyC on Jul 05, 2012, 04:56:54
nice mate, she looked like a heap when you started but now shes coming along great. cant wait to see it all cleaned and sparkling 
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jul 05, 2012, 11:56:34
Alright Rich, I'll do that then.. Yea I work a month on/month off, I just been busy from getting on the computer and posting pictures and such. Thanks Deep, I saw the first post too and I am starting to see it, the end is a little foggy with color and tank configuration but I'm just winging it on the general design I have! I want to put it together so bad too.. I am a ways away though.

Patience is a virtue..
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jul 11, 2012, 11:21:59
Question, which clutch plates are better: EBC or Vesrah?

Also, I'm not really looking for top speed but I would like to hit the ton. what sprocket configuration would be best? smaller up front and and stock in the rear or vice versa? or same as before but go up sizes instead of down?
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Jul 11, 2012, 21:49:31
Sorry Ronnie, I can't help with the clutch plates.

As far as the stock sprockets go, I wouldn't change the front size unless necessary. A smaller front puts more stress on the chain (more flex around the smaller diameter). And a bigger sprocket can cause interference on some bikes (not sure about the 400F though.......). That's all the info I've got.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jul 22, 2012, 18:45:27
Oh alright Rich, thanks.. I might just go up one in the back later on if I want it zippier. I'm not looking for top speed, just acceleration from the lights!

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jul 22, 2012, 18:57:18
Got some parts in last week and I was pretty excited about it.. got my cam back from Webcam got the #3 hot street hardweld. Plus i got new double vleve springs from them as well. Then my parts from Kevin at ttr400 came in: exhaust flanges, heavy duty race cam chain, billet cam chain adjuster, and bronze valve guides.

Now the only thing left is to get my jugs bored and honed.. I am thinking about sending my jugs, pistons,  head and valves to Golden Age Motorcycles for boring and honing plus get the valves and pistons some dry film lubricant and ceramic coatings for cooler temps and longer life. Might get him to do my valve guides and surface the head and jugs so its less likely to have the typical head leaks.

But I guess until I decide to do that I might break down the rest of the engine and see about changing the cam chain and adjuster while also looking at the crank and bearings for wear.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jul 22, 2012, 22:14:49
So I attempted to break open the crankcase so i could get the cam off and check out the vitals.. well all I have is a 350f manual with a small 400f supplement at the end that doesn't give much info on the topic.. I know I need yo get the books I know.. jeez chill.

OK so I tried to take them apart and it won't separate. I took off the stator and all the bolts are out, it cracks open but I think the crank chain is holding it on. How the hell do you get the top off the bottom to access the crank and cam chain?

Oh and I think the clutch assembly slide over cause its hanging out a little now and won't go back in and the cases won't close back together now

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Aug 03, 2012, 06:48:12
Question, which clutch plates are better: EBC, Barnett, or Vesrah?

Going to need new plates and springs when I get home from work, but I would like to get the best product for reliability and performance. I don't wan't to skimp on the very thing that makes it go.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Aug 13, 2012, 03:51:16
Bump on those clutches before I start another thread on it?
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: YogiBear on Aug 13, 2012, 03:53:27
can't comment on the vesrah but I have ebc clutch plates and they are working perfectly
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: surffly on Aug 13, 2012, 11:17:30
Racers I know run OEM clutches with barnett springs

I have run EBC on a few bikes and they were fine
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Aug 14, 2012, 05:28:34
ALright, I haven't measured the existing plates yet but springs can be changed on the cheap so if the plates are good I'll use those and order some new springs. Just waiting to get home Tues so I can start back up again.. Thanks surffly
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Sep 28, 2012, 02:28:25
The jugs are being bored as of Wednesday afternoon, my pops dropped off the pistons and my head(getting decked) so they should be done by the time I get home! I'm pretty excited, I still have to break down that clutch and split the case to check the rest of the vitals for condition and what not. Only 4 days and a wake up till I get home! Also, 2 weeks till Barbs!
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 02, 2012, 16:27:42
Just picked up my newly bored jugs and surfaced head! Pictures to come when I get home!

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 02, 2012, 16:43:47
Six weeks home from offshore... Can't wait to put it together!

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: sxecafe on Oct 02, 2012, 18:01:44
Shit looks nice, man! Was the head cut?
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 03, 2012, 09:29:41
Yea I got the guy to surface it so its flat again. Hopefully it reduces the chance of head gasket leaking like they are prone to doing. And thanks!
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: sxecafe on Oct 03, 2012, 13:15:34
Yea... I just fired my bike up the other night and even with brand new surface and new gaskets (good ones too) I had some oil dripping. I have to figure that ish out.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 03, 2012, 17:51:49
If you just put it together and its leaking. You might have to retorque the head bolts. Everything is going to settle in a "stretch" (in a sense) so it will loosen up slightly. Give it another torque down per manual order and specs and hope it seats better.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: sxecafe on Oct 03, 2012, 18:03:18
Yea. I was planning on doing that once I addressed a few things. Def before I ride it though.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: redwillissuperman on Oct 04, 2012, 00:05:46
If you just put it together and its leaking. You might have to retorque the head bolts. Everything is going to settle in a "stretch" (in a sense) so it will loosen up slightly. Give it another torque down per manual order and specs and hope it seats better.

Might be too late, but you should have sprayed the head gasket on each side with a copper assembly spray. its awesome.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 05, 2012, 14:26:29
Copper coat for the win! Haha, yea that stuff is the tits..

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 08, 2012, 22:33:57
So I have been moving along nicely, finally split the case and broke everything down. The bearings don't look very worn for 17k miles on them(what the ebay listing said when I bought the motor). But since I have everything torn down, I'm going to go ahead and buy new bearings and for sure get new seals for everything. I'm still not quite sure what the colors mean on the David Silver Spares site mean for crank bearings. I know they are for different sizes but the ones on my bike are labeled STD so what color does that correspond with is yet to be seen. I'll do some snooping tonight.

Until I get those parts, I was contemplating giving the conn. rods and crank counter weights a sanding to smooth them out and remove casting marks. Is this a good idea or should I move to something else and not waste time on something frivolous?

Well here are some progress pictures...

(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h469/riccar6/350F%20Cafe%20pieces/IMG_20121008_171820.jpg)

(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h469/riccar6/350F%20Cafe%20pieces/IMG_20121008_171858.jpg)

(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h469/riccar6/350F%20Cafe%20pieces/IMG_20121008_172640.jpg)

(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h469/riccar6/350F%20Cafe%20pieces/IMG_20121008_183148.jpg)

A bee was hanging out in the crank.. wonder how that little guy got in there...
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h469/riccar6/350F%20Cafe%20pieces/IMG_20121008_183722.jpg)

(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h469/riccar6/350F%20Cafe%20pieces/IMG_20121008_184830.jpg)


Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 08, 2012, 22:37:46
Also, when looking on the DSSpares website, I selected the parts listings for the "CB400F0 SUPER SPORT 1975 USA".. They had other listings for other years and other countries. I have a 75 engine so I'm guessing I'm on the right track for the correct parts.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 18, 2012, 13:36:43
Well main and conn rod bearings are ordered. Now while I'm waiting I'm working on the frame, swing arm, and seat.
I got the swing arm off no problem but now I'm having issue getting the bushings out of the swing arm. I bought brass ones to replace the steel ones. I tried heat and knocking them out with a pin and hammer but no go. 

Trying the hydraulic press next. Hopefully I don't fold the swing arm haha...... Sigh.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Oct 18, 2012, 13:44:38
Righteous, man.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 18, 2012, 14:01:42
Got it! Nothing a sawzall can't fix.. Cut some notches in the bushings and peeled them out with a punch. Like a charm.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 18, 2012, 17:55:40
Just ordered my front end.. Thought it was a pretty good deal. We shall see.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Suzuki-GSX600-Katana-Fork-Assembly-1994-GSX-600-/330362440300?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4ceb22ca6c&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 19, 2012, 16:13:01
Grabbed my tank fuel cap from my dad's marina boat yard. It came off a Isaac boat sitting on the highway haha! I already have the idea of mounting in my head but as of right meow I'm going to finish up the engine and frameworks.

Check it!

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Nov 06, 2012, 00:51:21
Well I got all my bearings in last week and seals too. So tonight I decided I would have a go a putting the engine back together. Well All the bearings went in without a hitch. then I was about to put the cases together, had the sealer on it and everything. and as I was putting the cam tensioner on I had to move the tension adjuster and the top piece came off the rod part so now I have to order a new one of those. I hate life sometimes...

Well I doubt it will come in before I leave next mon night. So its on hold for another 7 weeks. great.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" An Engine Adventure. Hopefully with a good ending..?
Post by: ronnie on Dec 11, 2012, 08:35:41
2 weeks left and I'm home free to work on my engine finally. I left her open and exposed. It's sitting there on the table, cases apart, gasket seal over one side, everything that needs it has production lube on it and when I go to put the tensioner on it, the rubber/metal part pops off the top of the tensioner rod. Luckily I got probably the last one in the USA on file from Honda, all the way in Ohio. I had to leave for work and it of course came in when I didn't have time to fool with it so I covered it all up with an old bed sheet. I really want to get the engine together this time off. I have oil seals to replace the old ones but a lot of time has gone by and I don't remember where everything was. Sucks. I hope I don't forget something.  And to be honest the manual isn't the most helpful at times.

Thought I would update this since it's been a while. I'll attach least post some pictures of work and what I have been up to out on the sea.

One of the many sunsets I see
A dead seagull I posed with haha
Chicken cacciatore I cooked for the crew
And our Christmas tree

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller"
Post by: ronnie on Dec 11, 2012, 08:39:46
Another sunrise
Another yet..
My PPE gear after helping tie the boat up in the rain.
And teaching a new rookie mate how to spray letters on. Those runs are from his initial try haha!

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Dec 11, 2012, 09:25:04
Ha, awesome man.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Dec 11, 2012, 10:09:36
Those sunrise / sunset pics are amazing man.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: PeteyWash on Dec 11, 2012, 11:41:47
I had a 73 cb350f... loved that bike.  It has more power to it than most give it credit.  it's just all top end
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Dec 12, 2012, 08:56:49
Oh yea.. It's a bit slow to get to about 5k but after that it screams and opens up! It's like a different bike once younstay in the high rpms. Needless to say I'm excited to see how this 466 turns when it's done.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Dec 22, 2012, 12:13:30
Quick update before the holidays begin. Since I have been on the boat these past 6 weeks, I have aquired many parts for the bike that are waiting to be unboxed and sorted. First I decided to hold off on the fiberglass tank and went and bought DeanJ's Benelli Mojave 360 tank he was selling. I have wanted one of those since I first saw it a couple years ago. Its new in box, never tasted fuel. So that was clutch! Plus I couldn't have built the fiberglass tank for what I paid for it. Second, I bought some Threebond from Sonreir so hopefully I can get the engine back together in the two weeks I have home. I ordered some new EBC clutch springs and clutch plates from DCC along with some valve stem seals.

Then today with the help of Kiley, I found a XS650 19" front wheel to fit in my Katana forks. So that was nice finding that. Plus it is an aluminum rim so that is a double plus! The only thing left for the front end is to rebuild the Katana forks with new seals, bushings, Race Tech springs and emulators, dust covers, etc. Plus two rotors and some calipers to fit and then I'll head to a friends shop and get a axle made, new bearings to fit as well. After that the front end is complete.

I'm ready to get this all together! But mostly I need that engine put together without parts missing...I'm worried about putting it together and I forget something or it doesn't work right. That would be awful. To leave on a good note, I hope everyone has a awesome Christmas! I'll post pictures of everything when I get home and get a chance!
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: yorkie350 on Dec 22, 2012, 15:13:39
Cool thread mate great pics  ive stripped a cb350f  '72 putting it together as a caferacer polished n painted engine parts n rebuilt put back in frame, it aint running right yet hope i didnt rush it wouldnt want to pull it back out so you do right taking ya time, double check each stage it will save time money n tears later .Great feeling getting to open those boxes of goodies its like christmas every other week haha.Now ime so close to finishing i can see the point of TAKING YOUR TIME easier said than done i know but at least ya get a natural break with your job by the sound of it for you it would work to make notes on a wall board or notepad n take lots of before n after pictures not just for build thread for forum but to help your own sanity when ya have to leave it sat for weeks on end i did for the wiring and what bolt went where hope it all goes well mate have a great xmas will watch for ya progress
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Dec 26, 2012, 10:30:09
Thanks man.. Yea I am trying to stay organized and I learn something new in regards to labeling and organizing as I'm going along. I rebuilt a Ford engine before and have helped rebuild diesel engines on boats.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Dec 26, 2012, 10:36:09
So my new goodies were here now that I'm off work! Pretty awesome.

The new cam chain tension rod, Mojave tank, clutch springs and plates, and a tube of threebond. Now just need to get my engine together and I can't start other things.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: reds on Dec 26, 2012, 11:37:28
Not sure what you are asking, but here is some good advice pertaining to your last pic. Always turn your torque wrenches back to its lowest setting when not in use. It messes with the calibration when you don't
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Dec 26, 2012, 23:10:11
Whoa.. I didn't think that posted. Red, thanks for the tip, I'll definitely heed the advice.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 04, 2013, 15:01:07
Got my rim in last week after Christmas, hopefully going to be dismantling that today and cleaning it up. Might get the rim and hub clear powder coated.. Might just get the spokes and put it together raw and wait till I get the bike complete before I choose color and get it trued. But here is a picture of how I got it.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Jan 04, 2013, 23:56:36
Holy crap - how out of balance was that tire that it needed 4 huge spoke weights?
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 05, 2013, 12:10:06
Haha I noticed that too! I shrugged it off cause the tire is off now, brought it and the two old steel rims to the shop, $30 to get all the old crusty tires off. Worth It for me as I don't have to take out the sawzall to them or spend hours on them.. I'm off to our marina to cut the spokes off the alu rim so I can clean up the hub and rim properly.



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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 05, 2013, 12:14:22
Also, the front wheel is the correct wheel for the 350f but the rear is definitely not. It's a 17x4" rim with a hub that is definitely not stock. If I can use the hub I will, but that rim will be sold with the front wheel. I'll put it up in the selling thread later on. Pictures of the rear and one of the front, last.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: yorkie350 on Jan 05, 2013, 15:30:51
ooh i remember those babys polished until my fingers nearly bled  :'( but worth it in the end ;D  damn site cheaper than new rims n spokes for the price of a couple of polish mops n wax used a wire wheel too pleased with the spokes wouldnt want to respoke that seems like a black art haha 8) see what ya think pics are pants soz
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Offshore Update - Rear Wheel Inquiry
Post by: ronnie on Jan 10, 2013, 21:54:30
Offshore now for the next 3 weeks and some change.. Will be buying springs and emulators, and seals for my front end so I can rebuild that when I get home. Along with some spokes probably. I'm looking to get this thing a roller while i'm off this time. Question now is what rear wheel I should go with.. Is disc brake something I should look into, if not I have that drum brake hub at home I'm sure will fit it but need to look into what 19" rim I can fit it with. I'm still not sure what hub it is from, the 17" rim that was on it was a 4" rim which makes me think the PO was attempting some bobber/chopper with it since I have some ape hangers in the backyard that came with it.

Bottom line is, should I look into disc brake for the rear or should I just stick to drum. And if either or, which wheel is compatible.. I hate asking these questions but I have nothing to look at while I'm on the ship so googling doesn't help as I'm shooting in the dark here.. Just trying to get a rolling frame so I can say I'm getting somewhere.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Jan 11, 2013, 00:05:54
Ronnie, maybe I'm missing something......but why 19"?

I would stick with the stock drum brake for simplicity sake. Is your drum hub the stock 36 spoke hub? If it is and you go with an 18" hoop (all stock parts), the entire process would be really easy.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 11, 2013, 02:16:03
19" for asthetics really.. I don't have a problem with drum, that was a general question, I definitely know it will be easier and cheaper. I dont know if the wheel that came with all the parts is the stock hub. I definitely know its not a stock rim as its a 4" by 17" (it's the rim in "post #85" up the page a bit.). I'm pretty positive that the 350f didn't come with a rear 4" rim. And I would be scouring the net for an 19" aluminum rim since I scored a 19" Al rim for the front. If you can tell what hub that is, I'm pretty sure its the stock hub with some other rim. If that is the case I just need to find another rim for it. That would work out great. 3.5" is the correct width for the 350/400f correct? Or should I consider getting something larger since its really a ~450cc bike? I dont "want" to go bigger for looks, just want it to handle correctly and efficiently, but want the size to be correct if you know what I mean..

Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Jan 11, 2013, 02:44:36
Oh, I see. I "think" there was some kind of chopper kit sold back in the day or something - I have seen a couple older Honda's with a rear wheel like that, and usually had extended forks as well. Matter of fact, Mentat (a PA local) had a 350F that the PO had given the cruiser treatment to.

There was a thread very recently about a 19" rear wheel being used. The biggest obstacle IMO is the severe lack of rear 19" tires available. They are out there, but not as common as 18". Another possible issue is swingarm clearance - a 19" tire needs the extra 1/2" space to clear. Not that big of a deal.....just get a slightly longer chain.

Other than tire selection.......you would need a 19" rim, with 36 spoke holes (counted from that hub above), and the rim would need to be drilled for a drum brake. Different angles than a disc brake hub.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 11, 2013, 13:32:34
Yea that had to be it.. There are some ape hangers and the front forks had no front fender, just a homemade aluminum fork brace. I couldn't tell if they were longer or not, seemed normal to me though I didn't measure them.

Yea,  I saw something on another thread about 19" being harder to find. I'm in port now so I can surf the net faster ill look at my options. I'm assuming I should be looking for 3.5" wide for the rear correct? I'm not to concerned with the clearance just yet, it is only 1/2" so if it is an issue ill just use  inch longer shocks or the longer chain like you mentioned.

That's neat they had kits around to make them cruisers, they are smooth at speeds, no bad vibrations or anything.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: yorkie350 on Jan 11, 2013, 14:41:24
yeah the stocks are 18" front n rear 3.5" rear and 3.00" for the front i went for a 3.25" for the front dunlop 80'S got great tread pattern and plenty of depth cos ime keeping back and front end stock i stayed with these but could easily take 4.00" &  3.50" it also saved me money,only replaced new rim tapes ( a must for tube / spoke wheels ) new innertube and tyres kept drum brake it looks the  part gud look mate
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 11, 2013, 16:25:54
Yea thanks for the help yorkie, I'll keep my eyes open for a 3.5 rear rim. I'm sure I'll find something sooner or later. I'm going to look for tires after I get off watch and have time and see what my options are.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Jan 11, 2013, 17:44:15
Ronnie, the stock tire is 3.5" on a 1.85" wide wheel. That's the equivalent of a 100/90 tire. To bump up that size to say.....a 110/90, you need a 2.15" wide wheel.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 11, 2013, 18:58:58
Oh okay thanks a bunch Rich, I would definitely be looking at the wrong stuff haha.. I'm learning, I'm learning!

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Jan 11, 2013, 20:34:54
All good homey! Nobody was born with knowledge.....only the ability to learn.

While I haven't looked for wheels for a little while......I would guess that finding a 19" hoop, that was drilled for a brake hub, and 2.15" wide isn't just floating around on eBay. Might have to contact the folks at Buchanan's.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 11, 2013, 21:12:48
I have been looking and there really isn't much more selection for 18" tires either.. It's only marginally more than 19" tires. You are pretty much limited to Avon roadriders for 19" and 18" you have Avons, and Pirelli and Continentals and both of those you would have to bump up to a 100/90 on the front to have a matched set. So I think I'll just use whatever I can find in regards to size. If I can find a 19" great, if I only score a 18" that's fine too. But I'll probably still be getting the Avons, which from what I hear and see on the net they are pretty good tires.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Kanticoy on Jan 11, 2013, 22:08:21
Hey ronnie! 

The stock wheels on the XS that matches your front are 18" rear.  That wheel you have is a "chopperized" stock 350f rear wheel.  Stock hub with cruiser hoop.  Like Rich said, it was common back in the day.  One option you can look at if you want to use dual 19" wheels is to grab another front 19" hoop.  The spoke angles will be wrong as they're drilled stock, but they can be drilled out to the correct angle and then you use spoke nipple washers on the inside of the hoop under the nipple to take up the slack in the holes.  One option would be to snag a Mike's hoop to lace the rear up with:

https://www.mikesxs.net/product/34-2019.html

Keep in mind if you do this, it's a 2.15 hoop, so it will give you a skinny tire out back.  You shouldn't have a problem running a 100 series tire on a 2.15 hoop.  It's not standard, but will work without pinching the tire.  I've run them before this way (Gretta).

One last option is to lace up a rear dirt bike hub with a disk on it already.  The only thing you'll have to do then is get the correct spokes, and a sprocket in the right tooth count and it would work great, even with a 19".  The good thing about doing this is that a front drilled hoop would be perfect and wouldn't need re-drilled for the fatter drum brake.  You'll have to of course make the correct spacers to center it in your stock swing arm, and snag a caliper and caliper carrier to run the rear hydraulics.  Something like this CR rear hub for example:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CR250-HONDA-1989-CR-250-89-REAR-HUB-/300619430293?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item45fe507995&vxp=mtr

Bearings may need changed to match stock rear axle, but no biggie.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Jan 11, 2013, 22:35:13
And that's why I love this guy.......
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 11, 2013, 22:45:34
Kiley, if a 2.15 rim is going to be a skinny tire, what size rim would I need to run a 110 out back? I might just save myself the trouble and get a rim from Buchanans and use my drum brake hub for now. If I want a disc brake later in life I'll take my time piecing it together(maybe a bigger swingarm, etc.?). I don't mind buying a shouldered rim from there if I know its for that drum hub I already have. I'm guessing a 2.75" rim would be good for the 110 tire?

That second option, it IS an option haha, but I wasn't looking to open that many cans of worms unless I have too! ;)
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Jan 11, 2013, 22:56:34
Ronnie, I have a 110/90-18 on my GR's rear wheel, and it's 2.15 wide.

Generally, a 130/90-16 would go on a 2.5" wheel, and 120-90-16 would go on a 2.15" wheel (stock Suzuki sizes from mid / early 80's anyway).
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Kanticoy on Jan 11, 2013, 23:20:34
Rich has got it.  If you're ordering custom wheels anyway, run a 2.5 and a 110.  Perfect world scenario there man!
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 11, 2013, 23:27:03
Sounds easiest to me, I have everything else at home sans rim and spokes. Thanks a bunch guys! I think I will be ordering me a rim and some spokes here soon!

Kiley, you told me to order RD350 spokes for my front wheel setup.. Was that also taken into account it's a 19" rim with the XS hub? doesn't matter length or is it just magical luck the RD spokes fit that particular setup? If I'm going to get a rear rim and spokes from them I might as well get spokes for the front as well..

Edit: Just realized I'm stuck in a rift.. I have to either go 18" with 2.5 width or if I want 19" i have to stick with 2.15 width.. What a pickle. Life is funny haha! Sigh.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Kanticoy on Jan 11, 2013, 23:39:37
Like Rich said though, you can run your 110 on the 2.15,  And since you're keeping the 19, you'll want XS650 spokes.  Good to go no problems! 

And if you run 19" hoop out back you'll need custom spokes.  Costs the same from Buchanan's, but you'll have to send them the 350 hub and the 19" hoop to have them fitted up.  I think it would be awesome!
 8) 8)
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 11, 2013, 23:53:27
Ok, so let me get this straight cause I'm slow, and I like to be on the same page as smart people. In the front, with that 19" XS rim and hub I need XS spokes(makes sense) but I will be putting this on the Katana forks with CBR dual discs and Katana calipers. You had mentioned in an email to use RD350 spokes, which is why I'm asking.. Go with the XS spokes still for the front setup?

And for the rear, I'll be fine with getting the 2.15"x19" rim with the stock 350f drum hub, custom spokes from Buchanan's, this will allow me to run a 110/90 rear tire.

Am I getting this right??


Edit: Alright, well I'm back to square one with wheels now. The widest I can get in a tire for the rear is a 110/90 on a 19" rim. Can I put a Front tire on the back? They have a Conti 110/80 front tire that would fit but its for the front.. I'm sure it makes a difference. Damn this sucks! Haha ahhh!

Am I just not looking in the right places for this elusive 110/90x19 tire?
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Jan 12, 2013, 00:16:03
I'm pretty clueless on the front end......

But for the rear, I checked Avon's site real quick and didn't see a 110/90-19 rear tyre. Any particular one you had in mind?
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 12, 2013, 00:27:09
Yea, Rich.. I just modified that post.. I saw that too after the fact. I think I was getting it confused when I was looking into 18" tires too. I might just be pinned with getting a 18 rim. Unless Kiley has more magic in his sleeves! Haha!
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Kanticoy on Jan 12, 2013, 13:17:33
You can run a front tire on the rear, I've even done it with avon's on my cb125. Only difference is the center rain grove. On a 350f/400f you aren't going to have traction issues. Rd350 spokes are for an 18" hoop. I thought that's what you were running initially, but since your running the 19", you'll need the xs spokes.



Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Kanticoy on Jan 12, 2013, 13:25:54
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/13/e9ageduv.jpg)

And btw, the Avon am26 is a universal (front or rear) tire so it doesn't matter anyway!
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 12, 2013, 15:08:39
Yea, but the problem with those AM26 is that the rear only comes in a 100/90 for the rear. That's the widest they make for the 19". I think I'll just save myself the trouble and just get the 18" 2.50 for the rear so I have more options. Sucks but the only option I have is a Continental or Michellin and they are both 110/80 ...

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/14/72/961/36061/ITEM/Continental-Conti-Road-Attack-2-Hyper-Sport-Touring-Radial-Front-Tire.aspx

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/14/72/961/35276/ITEM/Michelin-Pilot-Road-3-Front-Tire.aspx

And I wouldn't have a matching front.. Sooo Looks like I'm just getting the 18"x2.50 shouldered Excel rim so I can have at least the Avons that I know for sure..
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Kanticoy on Jan 12, 2013, 15:29:27
What would make you not want an 80 series on the rear? 5mm of difference in height on top and bottom isn't going to be very noticeable. Just saying if that's all that's holding you back it shouldn't cause an issue or look odd.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 12, 2013, 16:12:50
Well nothing really, but if I get one of those front tires for the rear.. they don't have a size (90/90 or 100/90) that would fit the front tire. So I would have a Avon front and a Michellin/Conti "front" on the rear..  The only option I have for the 110 on the back is using a front tire from those companies. Avon only has a 100 for the 19". So thats my predicament currently.

I looking at triples now. Eyeing a 90 cbr 1000 triple.. but i can't tell from pictures if the stem is pressed in or molded. I was going to use the katana triple but the stem is cast into the bottom triple.. I found this one for really cheap too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1990-HONDA-CBR-1000-CBR1000-TRIPLE-TREES-RACES-BEARINGS-COMPLETE-NICE-USED-/190716179106?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c6791f2a2&vxp=mtr

And I found some cbr600 disc rotors on the cheap too. $34 a piece and free shipping. Best I could find as te rest were 100+ and then I had to pay for shipping..

I'm going to try to get this front end knocked out while on the boat, parts wise. And if I'm not in the hole too much from that, I'll order whatever rear rim and spokes for front and back.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 12, 2013, 18:23:18
Just ordered my Race Tech springs, valve emulators, seals and dust covers. After I get my check deposited I'll be ordering the calipers, triple, disc rotors, and brake rebuild kits. If I can at least get my forks done I can at least be ready to get a new stem shaft fitted and bearings to order.  After that it's getting wheel bearings to fit.
At least from offshore I can be part ready when I get home..

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 14, 2013, 15:42:37
Bought spokes and a rim band from MikesXS. Going to my house this week! Though I wont be able to see them till Feb 5 when I get off the ship... Thinking about adding tires and tubes to that list haha.. Slippery slope!

Also, I think I'm just going to go ahead and settle with the 2.50"x18" rim.. I think the wider 110 or 120 tire on the back will look better than a skinny 19".. So I'll get both tires sometime before I get off the boat. I'll get the rear rim next time on the boat, but at least I'll have a complete front wheel complete! I have too look and see what shoes I want now! Avons look very nice, but I think Pirrelli and another has some nice offerings in my sizes. More research to come in that area.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 16, 2013, 20:03:08
So I got in to port today and I called Chuck House Motor sports about head work.  We'll yo fit my new guides, ream them and do an angle job on the valves and seats and assembly of the head is going to be $450.  Does that sound pretty good, he is from what I hear the best in NOLA for head work on motorcycles.

One thing is that if he does the angle job he recommended me getting new valves cause if he cuts the old ones they will be smaller and have the possibility of not sealing right and he won't guarantee it. Which puts me in a position of either 1.not doing the angle job and keeping stock valves or 2 getting new valves and doing the angle job..

Any opinions?

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Title: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Flugtechnik on Jan 17, 2013, 00:51:44
IDK, I had my valve seats recut and valves lapped in for $100. Of course he neglected to mention I needed to shorten my valves to compensate, but I think that is particular to my motor.

IDK how much installing new guides are.


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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 17, 2013, 14:28:49
I would imagine the guides cost a bit more, they have to remove the old ones, make sure the new ones have clearance, ream them true for the valves with the correct clearances. Shoot I wish it was around 100! Haha, it just means I have to wait a little longer to keep monthly budget. I used this months on my front end which will be nice to have completed.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 24, 2013, 18:52:24
A picture from work.. Parts are arriving at home as I sit out here..

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 04, 2013, 15:49:48
Going home tomorrow. Soon these packages will be a new front end! Just need to pick up some oil at the auto shop.. More pictures to come.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Tim on Feb 04, 2013, 15:58:45
A picture from work.. Parts are arriving at home as I sit out here..

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nice office - better view than mine.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: yorkie350 on Feb 04, 2013, 16:23:29
Gonna be like xmas all over again ;D ya" old sea salt "  ;) great view mate plenty of thinkin time  while on watch  ::) look forward to ya build pics .How long you on shore for , time to get bits done i hope  :P
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 04, 2013, 16:41:46
Haha thanks, I'll be in for my normal 4 weeks. I work 28days on/ 28 off. Yea hoping to get some actual work done on the front end and frame. Get the tank mounted right so I can move on to the seat. I still need to fit the old battery tray and electronics tray and try to make one unit that is cleaner. I want to keep the 350 side covers, I think the empty area looks awkward on these bikes. Just my opinion though.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 06, 2013, 10:11:35
So I got my parts taken out, these were just the suspension parts. The calipers, disc's, and triple were in the garage.

I did get the forks disassembled yesterday and I will be going ahead and getting the damper rods drilled out as per instructions of the valves emulators. Cleaned everything up and I'm going to go ahead and soda blast the lowers, calipers, head, rim and hub and start getting things powered. No sure on the color or fork lowers but I know the wheel will be given a shiny brush look and a clear powder.

Didn't get many pictures cause it was a oily messy job! I'll get more, don't worry..

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Feb 06, 2013, 10:13:46
Right on, man!
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 06, 2013, 10:47:52
That's what I'm saying Justin!

So I'm having to get new brake disc rotors cause I didn't do all my research beforehand and they are too big for the rotors. So I'm looking on ebay, and I'm looking at two sets of rotors. Now the first one looks to be the lighter of the two but not sure since its off a CBR1000

http://www.ebay.com/itm/97-98-HONDA-CBR1100XX-CBR-1100XX-FRONT-ROTORS-BRAKE-DISC-99-00-01-02-03-/271150226824?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f21d01d88&vxp=mtr

And the second one is from a 93-94 CBR 900rr.. But it "looks" like it would be heavier since it has more metal on it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/93-94-Honda-CBR900-CBR900RR-CBR-900RR-Set-Of-Front-Brake-Rotors-Discs-/400407875058?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3AHonda%7CModel%3ACBR&hash=item5d3a2b4df2&vxp=mtr

The first one would obiviously be cheaper, but I'm no expert in this. Nothing on Google about weights or differences. So is this just a cosmetic thing or is one better than the other?
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 06, 2013, 18:49:53
Drilled the extra 5/16" holes in the damper rods.. Chamfered the holes (not pictured) and will be smoothing them out with some emery cloth later tonight. Going to be soda blasting tomorrow sometime all the parts so they can be painted or powdered.

That's all I have for now..

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Feb 06, 2013, 22:33:47
Yes sir, looking good Ronnie!

As far as the rotors: I know it sucks buying parts you don't need. But you might consider getting both sets and selling off the unused ones for a lower price. Or maybe the sellers can weigh them if they have a scale?
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Kanticoy on Feb 06, 2013, 23:21:50
Ronnie, either set will work on your bike.  Dimensionally they are identical, they are just different carriers on them.  They weigh no different.  I know it's crazy, but they are identical in weight.  I have a set of both of them.  I actually prefer the cbr900 rotors like you posted, so that's what I always use.  Really a matter of preference.

(http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/Rahnalthin/IMAG0126.jpg)
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 07, 2013, 00:31:49
Ronnie, either set will work on your bike.  Dimensionally they are identical, they are just different carriers on them.  They weigh no different.  I know it's crazy, but they are identical in weight.  I have a set of both of them.  I actually prefer the cbr900 rotors like you posted, so that's what I always use.  Really a matter of preference.

(http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac218/Rahnalthin/IMAG0126.jpg)

Kiley, yea I was actually thinking of just pulling the trigger on the 900s because I didn't think the 1000s would look good next to spokes. Just think the 5 spoke design wouldn't look good next to spoked rim. Maybe if I had mag wheels but that's not the case. So I'll be buying those 900s so I can get that over with.


In other news, got some XL soda media tonight at HF. Getting a blaster tomorrow from a friend, and going to knock out blasting the rim, hub, engine head, and probably the block(I'm not feeling the black anymore and its chipped pretty bad). Also, going to call the two places that I know of that might do powder coating in the morning and get some prices on things and if they charge extra for blasting or if I can prep them myself..

Other than that, I'm just chugging along. Looking to get the fork lowers powdered so I can reassemble them with new goodies. I'm thinking just keeping grey/silver for the color. I thought about doing a gold-ish color but I dont know how I feel just yet..
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 07, 2013, 00:39:07
Thanks, Rich I'm doing my best over here haha.. Just not rushing anything, gotta build it with love not haste.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 07, 2013, 11:47:28
I ended up stripping one of the damper rod bolts.. Are these things hardened steel? They have grade 8 color, if they are just nickel cadmium plated regular steel. I'm going with the stainless bolts. Or should I just go with the black regular steel bolts? I just don't know how much pressure/force is put on those bolts..

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: clem on Feb 07, 2013, 11:54:33
Ronnie,
I know that your out in Slidell but I had a guy on the westbank do some powdercoating for me and it turned out great. I think that it was "Extreme Powdercoating" maybe. The first guy that did the wheels was in Kenner and it sucked. He did a horrible job man you could see his fingerprints through the clear.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 07, 2013, 12:37:15
Thanks Clem, I saw them on Google. They are right there in Harvey right? I'm at Corso Inc in Slidell rihg now getting some prices on things. I'll probably get my fork lowers and calipers done here now, and we'll see what it looks like. If it checks out ill keep coming if not, I'll head to the Wank and check out your guy.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 09, 2013, 11:40:28
]Got the parts from the powder coater yesterday before I left to go to Mardi Gras in the city. I'll be reassembling come Mon-Tues.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Feb 09, 2013, 22:31:33
Whoa! Looks great Ronnie!

You'll have her rolling in no time, right? :)
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 11, 2013, 12:40:51
Not too sure rich, front end might be rolling haha. But I won't be putting the forks on till the frame and swinger are finished being welded on.. I'm assembling today, and already ran into a hiccup.  Off to the marina to use drill press. 

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Feb 11, 2013, 12:41:56
Purrdy.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: yorkie350 on Feb 11, 2013, 14:25:34
They came up sweet Ronnie man  8) hope ya got ya hiccup sorted mate  :o are you doin the welding on ya frame, wot ya gettin done  :P
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 11, 2013, 16:14:27
I did get the hiccup sorted and I have another one haha! But it's nothing big.. I have to braze/weld the rebound holes in the damper rods since I'm using the valves instead of the damper adjuster. So another trip to the marina to plug them.

To answer you, I'm doing the welding myself. I'll just be doing very minor frame stiffening and putting a brace on the bottom side of the swing arm. Nothing drastic cause I'm not racing but it would be nice to be able to go on a track and not worry about my front end and rear suspension to overcome the frame. But I also know something has to flex ay some point which is why it's going to be minimal. I have faith in the engineers at Honda haha..

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: yorkie350 on Feb 11, 2013, 16:25:30
Keep it rockin ronnie mate  8) gave it a shot at welding myself on this project :P gonna try gettin a small second hand lathe so i can knock up some of me own bits n pieces on my next project  :o steep learnin curves but ace when ya get something ya done yaself under ya belt  ;D keep it goin chief look forward to more pics n threads  ;)
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 11, 2013, 17:02:38
Yea, welding isn't hard. My dad taught me out at our boatyard. Tig, mig, stick.. I'm pretty good at those. I'm no expert but I can make clean strong welds. Now machine work is out of my zone haha, my dad does it. Used to own a machine shop before the boatyard. Good luck to you there! But yeah, nothing like doing things yourself if you can.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 11, 2013, 20:20:51
Well I ended up getting one complete fork done. After having to drill more holes in the rods, then having to braze the rebound holes closed, I got one fork done(or so I hope) here's pictures from the day prior to my progressively worse evening.

First two are why I had to drill more holes. The oil lock covers the bottom two the directions tell you to cut.  Second two are the rebound holes fix.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 11, 2013, 20:24:29
And this is my cutting the spacers for preload. Race Tech said for the GSX600 and they're valves and springs minimum is 10mm for street use. So I cut them to 10mm. I hope that's right in the end. Also when I filled the one up I filled to 118 from top of inner tube. Race Tech said 115mm and the rebuild tutorial I got from katriders forum said the guy used 127mm. So we'll see how that works. Seems to be a lot of air in there....

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Kanticoy on Feb 11, 2013, 20:33:22
You're probably right on the money. Have to leave room for compression in there. Too much and it'll be rock hard.



Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 11, 2013, 20:52:12
Yea, I hope so.. its just there is so much variation. The spring directions from RT said street use is 15-20mm minimum. I mean I can't change it now, I don't have extra spacers laying around and Im not taking that fork apart. I have other things to take care of, which brings me to my next topic.

The day was pretty good with the final completion of one fork, but some other things went south. One, I screwed up the finish on the fork lowers with laquer thinner(while cleaning out the tubes to remove dust and old oil) so it has cloudy looking runs. Most of them are on the inside of the forks, but I'm hoping I can buff them out somehow when its all said and done. I honestly thought powder coat was more resistant than that. So that bummed me a good bit since I just paid for them to get done. I kept on going with a good attitude and I was putting the second fork together and the oil drain screw on the bottom of the fork stripped out. So not only does this mean I have to take the seal out for the third time(i forgot to put the guide spacer between the guide and seal) and undo the damper rod bolt again, but I have to either A) put a bigger size bolt in it after drilling and tapping or B) I put a helicoil in it after taping it. Either way sucks cause its just a pain in the ass haha! But I can't do B until Wed because CarQuest doesn't open on Mardi Gras tomorrow. It was going so smoothly too...... Next bike will be no older than 6 years old haha!

Lucky for me, my clutch nut socket came in from DCC, so I guess I'll be doing engine work tomorrow.. Or I get dusty doing soda blasting on parts, which needs to be done too. Until then..
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Kanticoy on Feb 11, 2013, 21:10:14
Ronnie, you can cut and buff powder just like paint. Sand it down with 800-1000 and then hit it with some 3m buffing compound and a mechanical buffer and it will look great, no worries. And just re tap your drain screw to the next size up metric and use a new copper crush washer and you're golden. No worries man, just some minor stuff. And powder is tough, but some things will still eat it. You'll be good with gas and oil, etc.



Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 11, 2013, 21:27:26
Ronnie, you can cut and buff powder just like paint. Sand it down with 800-1000 and then hit it with some 3m buffing compound and a mechanical buffer and it will look great, no worries. And just re tap your drain screw to the next size up metric and use a new copper crush washer and you're golden. No worries man, just some minor stuff. And powder is tough, but some things will still eat it. You'll be good with gas and oil, etc.

Thanks, Kiley.. I'll do that once they are all said an done. I have the paper and compound. No sense of doing it before I finish the forks. Yea, its minor stuff, I was just like damnit I wanted to get these done today cause it was a rainy day haha. Yea, I will have to see, it will have to wait till Wed anyways. I think it is supposed to rain agian tomorrow so I might just do some soda blasting. Thanks again for the advice man.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: teazer on Feb 12, 2013, 01:25:41
Ronnie, why are the rebound holes brazed closed?  The extra holes in the bottom of the damper rod are to let the emulators do the compression damping, but it still needs rebound holes.  Or did I miss a step earlier?
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 12, 2013, 10:25:16
I didn't think those little holes would have mattered. But I called up RT and the service guy said I needed to plug them up or they wont let the valve to it's thing correctly. The valve replaces both the compression and rebound dampening holes/adjustment. so there is no need for the rebound holes as the rebound is regulated by the valves adjustment.  I'm still trying to understand it myself, Teazer. The valves sit on top of the rods so those holes are on the same side as the 5/16" holes I drilled at the bottom. Do you think it wasn't necessary? They guy said if I was local he would have brazed them up free of charge.. At this point, I'm just hoping they work like they should.. better than stock.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: teazer on Feb 12, 2013, 13:54:08
Ronnie,
That doesn't gel with their web site unless they changed the design.  I have fitted a few sets and have had to adjust the rebound damping holes by welding them up and re-drilling but never fully welded them.

http://www.racetech.com/page/title/Emulators-How%20They%20Work

It's possible they have a new design that I'm unaware of though.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 12, 2013, 18:11:17
Ronnie,
That doesn't gel with their web site unless they changed the design.  I have fitted a few sets and have had to adjust the rebound damping holes by welding them up and re-drilling but never fully welded them.

http://www.racetech.com/page/title/Emulators-How%20They%20Work

It's possible they have a new design that I'm unaware of though.

I called them back up Teazer, I spoke to a guy that did the exact thing I'm doing on the exact bike. He was explaining to me that the reason you braze them closed is that if left open you will rebound too quickly. In the stock setup, you have 3 holes to choose from on the selector on the fork cap, but only one is used at any given time. So technically he said you could leave the smallest one open but its not necessary. He was also explaining to me that the valves are made with bleeder holes so the rebound action is technically there. That and there is a check valve at the bottom of the inner tubes that allows oil to pass through.

But he said that if I push the fork down and they come up two slow then I can put thinner oil in it. (I currently have some "Pro Honda SS19 fork oil" from a cycle dealer here in town. He recommended 15w, we both don't know what SS19 means haha but i think it feels like a steering fluid in viscosity) And if thinner oil doesn't help then I would ahve to drill out one of those holes. So we shall see.

Hope that clears it up from you. I'm not the best regurgitator.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 13, 2013, 12:21:11
Quick update, got my hub and rim soda blasted. Most of the oxidation came off but the rust stains from the old spokes are still on there.. Will be getting a pneumatic die grinder with some pads and will brush/polish them up. Got my lower triple clamp paint with jet Black awlgrip. Great stuff, use it on boats at the marina. It was left over from my dad painting a torpedo for his vet association. It will be a memorial in new Orleans some where.

Will test fit the triples on the frame when I get back from delivering said torpedo. I have a feeling the stem will be too long.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Feb 13, 2013, 12:23:11
Look at that fucking thing.... Awesome!
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: teazer on Feb 13, 2013, 18:43:05
I called them back up Teazer, I spoke to a guy that did the exact thing I'm doing on the exact bike. He was explaining to me that the reason you braze them closed is that if left open you will rebound too quickly. In the stock setup, you have 3 holes to choose from on the selector on the fork cap, but only one is used at any given time. So technically he said you could leave the smallest one open but its not necessary. He was also explaining to me that the valves are made with bleeder holes so the rebound action is technically there. That and there is a check valve at the bottom of the inner tubes that allows oil to pass through.

But he said that if I push the fork down and they come up two slow then I can put thinner oil in it. (I currently have some "Pro Honda SS19 fork oil" from a cycle dealer here in town. He recommended 15w, we both don't know what SS19 means haha but i think it feels like a steering fluid in viscosity) And if thinner oil doesn't help then I would have to drill out one of those holes. So we shall see.


Those forks come with adjustable damping stock IIRC, so maybe that's the issue.  Is there a third set of holes that I didn't notice that are still open?

And who keeps a torpedo in their garage? ..................  Looks very shiny for sure.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: clem on Feb 13, 2013, 20:20:07
Doomsday planner?
Title: Re: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 14, 2013, 12:06:06
Those forks come with adjustable damping stock IIRC, so maybe that's the issue.  Is there a third set of holes that I didn't notice that are still open?

And who keeps a torpedo in their garage? ..................  Looks very shiny for sure.

No, just two sets(damper holes on bottom and rebound near the top). That's at my dad's boatyard..


Doomsday planner?

Haha maybe?

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 14, 2013, 12:12:27
Well I tapped both oil drain plugs last night with 1/4 - 20 ss bolts as I had the tap for them. Hooked everything together for photos and now it goes on the side. Until I get my wheel finished and I get the stem lathe down to size as it's too long for the neck.

So I found out where that 20t sprocket goes.. Bad news is I have to split the case cause it goes on the primary shaft......  And I'm going to need help putting all the shifter arms back in place.  The book doesn't give a good description of how they connect places.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: yorkie350 on Feb 14, 2013, 14:53:34
Oh yeah there lookin  8)  Ronnie mate well worth the hassle ime sure  ??? you know more than ya think mate  ::)  keep it goin man she gonna be so cool  :P
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: teazer on Feb 14, 2013, 18:03:21
No, just two sets(damper holes on bottom and rebound near the top).

Have you filled the legs with oil and tried them yet?  I test each leg to make sure that they both feel the same and it's interesting how often they are different in compression or rebound.  It's not exactly scientifically objective, but it works.  That's when I realized I had made an error of judgement on the last set I converted.  They are almost solid.  Fortunately I tested before the bike ran up the street, so not much to pull off to fix it.

Do the adjusters still do anything and if so what are they connected to?
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 14, 2013, 19:01:13
Apprciate it Yorkie. Teazer, yea I tested them singly and both feel about the same. They were pretty stiff for me, could only push them down maybe 4 inches or 5, but I'm a light guy. No the adjusters are just for show, I cut off the adjuster rod right below the fork cap. I tried plucking them off to see about just removing the entire thing and plugging it but that was a no go. I might just paint them fancy and call it a day. But in all likelihood, I'll probably not touch them haha!
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 26, 2013, 12:34:38
New developments as of the late..I finished putting together the engine after leaving parts out of it haha! I soda blasted my head(cleaned the carbon and paint in the ports as well as the combustion chambers) and jugs(didn't like the black). While I was doing that I had new EBC clutch disc soaking in oil all day. Last night I had everything ready to put the clutch together and the cover on. As I was putting the lock nut on the clutch basket one of the rods to screw the pins busted off as I was using a large screwdriver to keep it from turning when tightening the nut. Not sure how else to do it, but ended up taking the clutch center off the 350f I had laying around trying to sell haha! This time I used two vice grips on the fins and puts the screwdriver on them. So it's all put together and the cover is on. I think I'm going to paint the clutch cable cover a different color cause black isn't looking good to me.   

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 26, 2013, 12:36:50
Pictures of the clutch on and covered.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Kamn on Feb 26, 2013, 12:41:58
That gold and silver is sweet!
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Feb 26, 2013, 14:07:49
That gold and silver is sweet!

+1! Looks great Ronnie!
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Evil August on Feb 26, 2013, 14:21:51
What forks are you using? Sorry, couldn't find it in the thread.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 26, 2013, 14:45:21
Appreciate it fellas.. @evil They are 94 Suzuki GSX600 Katana forks, with race tech springs and valve emulators..

I just started doing the number crunching and I will have to get an axle machined. The XS650 hub uses a 17mm axle and the Katana uses a 15mm.. Well they dont have bearings that are 15 ID and 47 OD that will fit in the XS hub. So I'll just make the bump up to 17mm axle and have the end at 15mm so it will fit in the Katana fork(the otherside has a bushing that slides out). This isn't too terrible as I need to get the hubs taken down 2mm as the discs I have are that much smaller so they don't slide one so I can bolt it up. So I'll be going to do that today sometime hopefully..

But today I will be buffing out the rim and hub to clean them up and get them ready for clear. Trying to acheive the brushed look to match the Excel Rims, that is if they don't come another way.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Feb 26, 2013, 15:23:01
Righteous, man!
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 28, 2013, 17:13:37
I brought my hub, discs, and axle to a machinist friend and he's going to get it done while I'm offshore the next 6 weeks.  So that's taken care of, I decided I'm just going to powder coat the rims because I'm not doing all of that work in polishing it haha! So I might go buy some cheap spray cans and see what color I like the best before I spend the bucks for powder.
Other than that, I just repainted my jugs to a dark grey/smoke/charcoal color which I think looks better than the black that was originally on it. Hoping to get the pistons installed before I go back to the ship on Tues.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: yorkie350 on Feb 28, 2013, 17:49:10
Lookin great Ronnie mate  ;) like the idea of powder coating the rims cos i worked me fingers raw polishing the rims haha :P  and i agree the gold on silver looks awesome see ya getting a breather while off shore , time to buy more parts maybe haha keep it goin fella she's gonna be sweet  8)  8)
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 28, 2013, 21:26:59
Mocked up some of the engine tonight.. But won't be putting the pistons in tonight. Want to do some reading so I know all the tips and how to before going with it. Don't want to mess something up. Want to prep it right too..  Here is the pictures for you fellas!

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: yorkie350 on Mar 01, 2013, 15:09:30
Yup thats lookin mint  8) keep it rollin ronnie gonna pinch those colours on my next project so cheers for that  ;)
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Mar 01, 2013, 15:20:03
You can eat off of that motor, man!
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Kanticoy on Mar 01, 2013, 15:28:17
Very nice Ronnie!



Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Corsair on Mar 01, 2013, 15:36:58
Man, does that look great! Nice work! 8)

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Mar 01, 2013, 21:14:14
Heck yeah man! The 400F looks good of course.....but the 350F isn't too shabby either.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Mar 05, 2013, 20:44:18
Appreciate it fellas, I'm trying to do things right with it.

And that has me thinking about whether or not I should have sprayed zinc primer on that block before I painted it with that duplicolor engine paint. Think I will be alright since I soda blasted it and washed it with soap and water really well, and then wiped it down with lacquer thinner before I painted?

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Mar 05, 2013, 20:52:05
I'm also wondering if any of you can give some light on something. I am wanting to get rid of the two casting lines/braces on the Xs650 hub..  Is this possible or are those for strength and I should leave them? I think Kiley did something like this but not sure if it was the same application..

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: clem on Mar 05, 2013, 22:48:55
Ronnie, that engine looks nice. The gold side cover is pretty sweet like almost a titanium look. Can't wait to see the finished bike.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Kanticoy on Mar 06, 2013, 00:24:23
I'm also wondering if any of you can give some light on something. I am wanting to get rid of the two casting lines/braces on the Xs650 hub..  Is this possible or are those for strength and I should leave them? I think Kiley did something like this but not sure if it was the same application..

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I didn't do it, but I talked about it.  We have been debating here whether it is a good idea or not as well.  They sure are huge and ugly...
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Kemp on Mar 06, 2013, 14:50:44
I did that on my Suzuki X6 Roadracer with a T500 front brake. I also drilled big holes in the thing and it cracked during "hard" use on the race track. I think you have to be careful how much strength you take from the hub, they get hot and distort a bit with consistent hard breaking especially if you use green linings. The 650 brake has holes already but they are not overdone so you can grind a bit and save a few ounces and still be safe
Title: Re: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Mar 06, 2013, 18:43:41
I didn't do it, but I talked about it.  We have been debating here whether it is a good idea or not as well.  They sure are huge and ugly...

Yea, I agree.. I mean even if it was just round them off some so they aren't as shape and protruding like they are would be great. I may have my machinist look into it. He worked for NASA in NOLA on the fuel tanks so he knows a thing or two about structural strength.


I did that on my Suzuki X6 Roadracer with a T500 front brake. I also drilled big holes in the thing and it cracked during "hard" use on the race track. I think you have to be careful how much strength you take from the hub, they get hot and distort a bit with consistent hard breaking especially if you use green linings. The 650 brake has holes already but they are not overdone so you can grind a bit and save a few ounces and still be safe

Thanks, yea I just want to get rid of the big fin looking things. I'm noy looking for shaving weight but if it comes out of looks in this application that's cool as well.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: teazer on Mar 07, 2013, 00:38:37
If we are talking the small "fins" they are there to increase surface area to shed heat and they probably add some stiffness (both marginally effective I would guess).  If we're talking about casting lump from one side to another, I guess they add some stiffness but it wouldn't hurt much to remove them.

When the wheel is on the bike though I don't think any of us would notice if they were there or not. I wouldn't spend a lot of time and though on it.  It's not like you are stuck on a boat for weeks on end with nothing else to think about....  ;-)
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Mar 07, 2013, 03:28:42
Haha yea, I know right Teazer! Well I just figured it would be easier to brush/polish up if they were removed or smoothed out some.. I think they are for some stiffness. I am just thinking on the lines of if i stuck the whole hub in a drill press and turned it so I could make easy of sanding and polishing, those lumps would make it a pain in the ass. I'm thinking I will lightly polish the hubs on both front and rear clear them and PC the rims some color yet TBD.. But I think the hubs would look better not painted.. So it was more of something that popped into my mind earlier today, apparently I'm "stuck on a boat for weeks on end with nothing else to think about...." haha!
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Mar 07, 2013, 03:36:09
So I started making my order list for this time on the boat.. I delved in tires and bearings today. I know the sizes, brands, and prices of the tires that will fit so it comes down to what you guys think of them and reviews(this info will be gathered when I get to that point).

I looked at bearings for my front XS hub and MikeXS has the whole kit for $46 which includes 2 bearings and 2 seals. Then AllBalls has a kit for $23 that includes the same thing. Are the Allballs just as good? I am leaning towards the cheaper because I have to get more bearings for my steering stem and my rear 350F axle bearings. I know Allballs are well known for their stem bearings and such so I can't imagine them putting out cheaply made axle bearings.. It would be nice to have all my bearings ship out at once to save shipping costs.

Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Kanticoy on Mar 07, 2013, 11:40:58
I've used lots of all balls wheel bearings and have had zero issues. Nice sealed bearings.



Title: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Evil August on Mar 07, 2013, 11:44:58
I've used nothing but All Balls and have had no problems.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Mar 07, 2013, 12:05:39
Awesome! Glad my gut feeling was spot on..
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Apr 01, 2013, 15:43:56
Heading to NOLA to bring my head in to get the new bronze guides installed and reamed. Decided to forgo the new valves and just do a good lap job when I get the guides finished. I go offshore for 2 weeks tomorrow so hopefully the had will e finished and I can button everything up and have a more complete engine minus electrical systems.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: clem on Apr 01, 2013, 20:22:49
Stay safe. I don't miss 14 days offshore but it was nice to have the time off at home.
Title: Re: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Apr 02, 2013, 14:36:56
Stay safe. I don't miss 14 days offshore but it was nice to have the time off at home.
I hear ya on that.. Thanks man.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" more demoing than assembly
Post by: ronnie on Apr 19, 2013, 11:41:24
Well I'm home from offshore and I had some time to work on the bike. Got the rear rim off the hub, took the brake parts off and cleaned the hub with alumibright to get the crude and whatnot off. After that it came out very nice and clean. Going to go to HF and buy a 1hp buffing wheel to polish parts. This morning I woke up earlier than I wanted and decided to get out of bed and mess with it again. I decided to start messing with the frame and tank issues. I will be making a loop for the rear of the tank to rest on and will secure it with a hook and bolt. The front will get the old tanks grommet holders. I'll be going to NOLA to get my head so I can paint it and put it on the engine finally.

Other news, my dad and I ate going to go half and half with a new Miller Tig/Mig welder soon. I have some 3/4" 316 stainless tubing that I'm going to be using for my frame and swinger bracing. I'm pretty excited to knock some of this big stuff out of the way.

Still waiting on my front hub from my machinist (he's been busy getting his oyster boat running so he doesn't lose his oyster lease) so I can polish that and put the rest of the front end together. I do however need to get him to cut down my stem since the cbr1000 one is too long. I can use the katana one for mocking for now.

And here's your pictures. And a picture of a rough mock up!

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: clem on Apr 19, 2013, 20:53:46
Ronnie did you find that rim on your last dive? ;)
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Apr 19, 2013, 21:52:42
Ronnie did you find that rim on your last dive? ;)

Haha! Yea, that one was a bit crusty.. I actually got it from the motorcycles that went down on the Titanic.. Ha! No, I'm getting an Excel rim since that one is a couple inches too small and its too wide as well.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Apr 22, 2013, 18:55:00
Dad had an old table at the marina I snagged and cleaned up to put the buffer on. Started buffing the rear hub and I think it's coming out great.. I'm not looking for a show quality finish so the imperfections are there to stay and will be covered by clear powder.

Heading to the marina now yo use the big compressor to clean the other side of the hub with the die grinder.  More updates to follow.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Apr 22, 2013, 23:42:23
Finished polishing the rear hub tonight... I think it came out great! Super happy with it.

So I attempted to break down the hub and get the old seals and bearings out and replaced with the new ones I ordered but they pinged the edges of the lock nut 4 times. Does anyone know how to get that nut loose with a spanner wrench the easiest? I tried heating the hub near the but and it won't budge. Then tried getting a punch and hitting the hole on an angle and still a no go. Any tricks of the trade would be great..

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Apr 23, 2013, 02:39:30
Oh quick update.. I didn't get my head last week because the shop said after he got the guides installed, he broke his reamer on the new guides.. said it was some hard stuff, but also his tool wasn't the newest either. So thumbs up to Kevin at TTr400 for some snazzy mega-hard bronze valve guides! And thumbs down to me cause I don't have my head haha, but I have other things I can work on.. Like rebuilding this rear hub and putting my pistons and jugs on the engine, frame work, more polishing, etc.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: clem on Apr 23, 2013, 11:11:53
I want to see this thing roaring down I-10 on my way to work man.
Title: Re: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Apr 23, 2013, 11:25:17
I want to see this thing roaring down I-10 on my way to work man.
Haha you and me both!

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: teazer on Apr 24, 2013, 00:05:51
Making progress there.  What is holding the back of the tank up so high and can it be adjusted?  If the back end came down it would line up much better with that seat and would look more integrated.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Apr 24, 2013, 02:25:33
Making progress there.  What is holding the back of the tank up so high and can it be adjusted?  If the back end came down it would line up much better with that seat and would look more integrated.
Well the frame flares out on the tubes going down to the engine mounts so I will have to spread the bottom of the tank out a little so it sits down some. I won't be able to get it to go further than maybe 2 inches because the bottom of the tank will hit the frame. I will be modifiing that seat anyways so I'll make the front part of it come up to meet the tank nicely. Give it a dome shape in the front so to speak. The seat wont have that long lip either, just enough to cover up the clips that hold the side covers on.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Apr 24, 2013, 12:15:44
Pulled the bearings this morning, just need to clear it before putting the new bearings and seals in. going to look into a powder gun so I can start baking my parts in the free oven we acquired.

Tonight I'm going to try to put the pistons on and get the jug block on the engine. Until then...

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: yorkie350 on Apr 25, 2013, 16:00:33
She's comin on big style now ronnie back end polished up real nice 8)  had the same prob with the tank n seat line up ??? ended up lifting tank front n back lined up with seat better  :) gonna add pics n theory to my thread  might help ya  :-\ sounds like ya keepin busy keep it up mate  ;)
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on May 04, 2013, 11:22:17
This week I ordered my 520 sprocket kit from Motomadness, my dyna coils, sparkplug wires, and electronic ignition, ordered a new head gasket for the 466cc kit since I have lost mine over the months, and a spare set of piston rings just in case I pop one during install. Next to order is my rear rim and spokes from Buchanan. Bought some new shoes for the cb350f since those replica tires were terrible.

Now my dad and I are settling on a TIG welder, it's between a Miller or an Eastwood.. When that's home, yall can start looking for some real progress!

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Kanticoy on May 04, 2013, 15:17:01
I debated the same thing. Went with the Miller. More expensive, but....its a Miller. You can trust them. Haven't regretted it a bit. Look into the Hobart EZ TIG as well. Same thing as the Miller diversion, just cheaper.


Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on May 05, 2013, 12:20:10
Yea, I think the Miller is the way I'm going to go.. It has a much nicer TIG torch and the foot pedal looks better built than the Eastwood. Plus it has one knob as opposed to 4. Super simple, and the digital screen helps dial in the voltage just right. Plus you can't beat a Miller. My dad has a Miller that is 40+ years old at the marina that still burns rods like a champ. Thanks for the +1 Kiley!
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on May 14, 2013, 16:37:48
Offshore update: Ordered my Excel rim and SS spokes and nips from Buchanans yesterday. So that was the 2nd to last big purchase I'm going to have to make to finish the bike(last will be the rack of CRs). Should be ordering the Miller Diversion 180 TIG welder this week so I'll be ready to hit the ground running when I get home. Talked to my pops, said that our machinist will have my front hub and axle finished as soon as the guy does my dads parts first, go figure haha, so I'll be able to finish my front end up when I get home as well. Contacted a guy in Houma who trues spoke rims up for a bargain price so hopefully I can bring my front and rear rims to him and be done with those, plus next time on the boat put some new rubbers on them!

Well, that's all I have for now, sorry no pictures at the moment.. maybe I'll get one here soon of something out here at work.

Until then...
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: yorkie350 on May 14, 2013, 17:00:49
You got it all goin on mate  ::) you are well organised even offshore put some of us land lubbers to shame hah  :D she gonna run sweet with CR's  :P they don't come cheap this side of the pond keep rollin mate not long before ya press that start button gotta put a video up of that moment fella
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on May 26, 2013, 21:38:43
Posting this so I don't forget the website..

http://www.electrexworld.co.uk/acatalog/RR24.html#tab_aRR24_1
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on May 26, 2013, 21:41:13
You got it all goin on mate  ::) you are well organised even offshore put some of us land lubbers to shame hah  :D she gonna run sweet with CR's  :P they don't come cheap this side of the pond keep rollin mate not long before ya press that start button gotta put a video up of that moment fella

Thanks, yea I try to plan my time home. I don't waste as much time if I have the parts waiting for me when I get there. That way I can hit the ground running when I get to the house! Yea, tell me about it, CRs are going to make me shed a tear! Yea, I'm ready to hear it run too.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: 50gary on May 27, 2013, 00:20:21
I also have a Miller Syncrowave 250 with water cooler, a Miller CoolMate 4.  It makes a huge difference for me.  The water cooled torch is way smaller and you can weld all day at any amperage with light gloves.  Just keep your fingers off the stock ha ha! 
  Cheers, 50gary
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on May 27, 2013, 00:38:15
This is a great project Ronnie. Any idea when it'll be done?
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on May 27, 2013, 02:44:55
I also have a Miller Syncrowave 250 with water cooler, a Miller CoolMate 4.  It makes a huge difference for me.  The water cooled torch is way smaller and you can weld all day at any amperage with light gloves.  Just keep your fingers off the stock ha ha! 
  Cheers, 50gary

Yea, I don't plan on doing long welds, but if the heat becomes an issue I'm glad you recommend the other torch.. I'm also not sure if the basic tig I'm getting will be able to have the water cooled torch. Didn't really look into that, do you know if it does?

This is a great project Ronnie. Any idea when it'll be done?

Appreciate it, but I'm hoping this year, preferably before Barbers.. But we shall see. I'll get a good bit done this 28 days home. Lots of parts lined up to get assembled and welded.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: 50gary on May 27, 2013, 08:59:36
Ronnie, you really don't need a water cooled torch right off.  It's a separate unit that you can add later on if you choose.  It is a nice option though.  One other low cost option is a flex-head torch,  Check that out when you buy.  TIG welding is fun.
  Cheers, 50gary
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on May 27, 2013, 11:26:03
Ronnie, you really don't need a water cooled torch right off.  It's a separate unit that you can add later on if you choose.  It is a nice option though.  One other low cost option is a flex-head torch,  Check that out when you buy.  TIG welding is fun.
  Cheers, 50gary
Yea it is coming with a flex head torch.. That was one of the selliing points for me, not having to have the hose constantly pulling down due to not being on a swivel. Thanks for the heads up though, if I get more serious with the TIG I'll definitely look in to water cooled down the road.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jun 04, 2013, 20:39:38
Picked this up Sunday afternoon.. Miller econotig 170. Came with full tube of various types of rods, stand, tank, HF grinder for solely sharpening tungsten rods, foot pedal, and a whole slew of extra nozzles, tips, and tungsten rods. I think I stole it for the price hopefully I get some welding startrd this week.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: 50gary on Jun 04, 2013, 22:05:42
Looking good, a flowmeter is preferred to a regulator.  Nice big tank, 200?
  I just refilled my tank today same size 200 $87.00
  Cheers, 50gary
 
Title: Re: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jun 05, 2013, 23:58:30
Looking good, a flowmeter is preferred to a regulator.  Nice big tank, 200?
  I just refilled my tank today same size 200 $87.00
  Cheers, 50gary
 
Yea we gave a flow meter (assuming it's the meter with the ball that floats). Yea, I believe that's the size of the tank, still full too and it's mine not a rental!

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jun 06, 2013, 00:05:24
On my way to the French Quarter to hang with some buds so not going to type a bunch.. Got my pistons in tonight, tried last night and wasn't a success after two attempts. Have the head on it to compress the gasket. The head, which I got back Monday from the shop, isn't finished. The guy installed the guides but burnt up two reams trying to cut them to size. Going to try to try another shop tomorrow. So I'm a little disappointed with that, sets me back a little. Good thing I have a welder so I can start on the frame work.

Also, took the wheels off the 350f to bring to get the new rubbers put on.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jul 22, 2013, 12:13:14
Haven't posted on here in a while due to my engine head being completely screwed up and I not having the tendency to post on here since its been a huge time and financial setback. I had to order a new used one on eBay. It's too long of a story to type out and I really don't like telling it because its not completely the shop's fault and some of it is because of my ignorance in this area of things. Needless to say, I have a head at my house ready to go, needs to be broken down, blasted, painted and reassembled. I'm just going to lap the valves and leak test them till they are right. I'm ready to get the engine completed so I can attempt to get it running. Also, my front hub is finally done from our machinist friend so I need to buff and polish that and the front rim to match the new rear Excel rim I bought. Need to go buy a powder coat gun so I can clear the hubs and rims, lace them up, and bring those to get trued.

Next, our drill press is finished so I can start making my pipes for the frame and swingarm and weld that up. Not to mention I have to weld up tank supports and such. Rebuild calipers and mount wheel to forks and install brakes. Without saying, I have a good bit of things to do and I'll do my best to keep this updated. I just started a Flckr account so I'm hoping to get my pictures organized a little better.
 
Getting off the ship tomorrow so hopefully updates will be soon and pictures will follow.

Until then...
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: yorkie350 on Jul 22, 2013, 19:27:55
Gee mate thought ya jump ship :o or gone "jack sparrow" on us haha  :P every build got to have a major downpoint ya got yours so forward from here fella ;)  some of us still have it to come think mine might be clutch and ime so near to finish agh  :-[  sounds like ya shop is gettin sorted too 8) keep ya chin up mate
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: clem on Jul 22, 2013, 20:33:49
Brother it all takes time. I'm trying to finish my bike before october also but that may not happen. Trying to add on to my shed is holding that back.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Jul 23, 2013, 01:13:02
Keep at it Ronnie, you're doing great work on the scoot.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jul 24, 2013, 14:35:03
Haha yorkie! Nah, just didn't have anything good to write up so I kept it alone till I had something good to say.

Appreciate it fellas, I do have good news today. Wired up the freebie oven we were given and I am pre baking my hubs to off gas them. I'll order my acrylic clear powder tonight and go get my power gun tomorrow. Hopefully I'll have my front rim polished tonight as well, thing was in rough shape, but the outer rim is looking comparable to the new excel rim. The inside will take more time, beer/water, and sweat till it looks close. Other than that, I'm hoping to get my head disassembled today and hopefully bring it to get resurfaced this week. I'll update as it comes.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Aug 09, 2013, 14:39:23
Have gotten a good bit done since last post..I painted and rebuilt the front calipers and mounted with new hardware. Going to need some spacers as the disc's are a bit thinner than the calipers. Not a big deal. Finished polishing my wheel parts, Powder coated my rims and hubs.  Assembled my wheels with new stainless spokes and nips along with new bearing and seals fore and aft. I attempted to weld up a motor stand, but the welder is drawing Too many amps and keeps blowing the breaker every time I crank up on the foot pedal and get the metal flowing. I then moved on from that to cutting off more things on the frame like the cross brace, I'll be replacing it, and the passenger peg brackets, will also be making new ones. Then I started bending the tubing for my swinger brace. Only thing holding me back now is that breaker, going to put a 40 amp in it and see how that works. Just don't want to get the wiring hot in the attic so I'll watch it if I do replace it.

Next thing is welding up the swinger brace, getting my rims trued, and my front axle machined, and finishing up the engine. I haven't put the new head I bought on yet because I found a guy that said he could fix the other head so I'm waiting on that. If it works out I'll be selling that other 400f head. I media blasted it so the outside is clean. Try yo get my money back..

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Kanticoy on Aug 09, 2013, 15:40:50
That is starting to look all kinds of awesome Ronnie!  I'm tuned in buddy!
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Aug 27, 2013, 08:53:35
Thanks Kiley!

Just ordered a Ducati alloy front rim off Ebay. Looking at tires right now, probably going to get Avons but I'm still eyeing the Perelli's. Right now I'm reading up on differences in tire heights.. (should I get a 120/90 or 120/80 for the rear, likewise for the front as well) Also, going to look into my fuel system and items for that. Going to buy my CR26 carbs this week, plus lines, filters, petcocks, etc as well. Still need my clip ons/controls/levers to get the front end finished. I need to find a brake cable for the rear brake, throttle cables too.

Also, before I get off the ship, I want to order my electronic components(reg/rect, flasher relay, etc). Does anyone (Kiley?) know the best reg/rect to get for the 400f? I will be using one of those small batteries for a battery, same AmpHr but just smaller. I have all LED signals, will be getting a H4 light, and probably getting an Acewell.

Well that's the update as of right meow..
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Aug 27, 2013, 18:26:16
I recommend the reg Rec from a nighthawk 250.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Aug 29, 2013, 10:51:16
Alright Justin, it's a pretty straight forward install?

Does it matter which years the reg/rec is off of? I'm looking at a new OEM one on ebay right now (http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONDA-NIGHTHAWK-Regulator-Rectifier-CB-250-91-07-OEM-31600-KB6-008-/270870375495?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f1121ec47&vxp=mtr) Would that be sufficient or should I get an older model?

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Aug 31, 2013, 08:13:50
Ordered my tires, got some Avon Road Riders. 120/80 in the back and 90/90 up front.. Can't wait to get my rims from the the shop where they were trued and get the tires mounted! Going to look spiffy. Got to get my front axle from the machinist and finish up the front end with the new front fender. I get paid this week so I'll also order my CR26s from Dynoman because they seem to have the best deal when it comes to lowest price and a main jet kit.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Aug 31, 2013, 20:36:00
A 90/90 for the front? It's been awhile, but I thought you were going with a 100/90. Either way, you're kicking butt on this bike Ronnie.
Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Aug 31, 2013, 22:59:38
Alright Justin, it's a pretty straight forward install?


If memory serves, it is a pretty easy install. Not a straight swap, but relatively easy.
Title: Re: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Sep 01, 2013, 01:35:35
A 90/90 for the front? It's been awhile, but I thought you were going with a 100/90. Either way, you're kicking butt on this bike Ronnie.
Well to be honest I couldn't remember for the life of me what my front rim was, I'm pretty sure it was a 1.85.. So I got the 90. I think a 100 would have been too wide and would have adverse effects on the steering. So I err on the smaller side of the rim size and got the smaller tire. The back is getting a fat tire since I have a 2.5" rim back there. So it'll be alright. Thanks Rich! If I could just get the other crap I need done without all the hiccups I would be be further haha!


If memory serves, it is a pretty easy install. Not a straight swap, but relatively easy.
Alright, yea I guess you can buy plugs to fit the female connector on the rectifier. Thanks Justin, I'll have to add that to the list for next series of buys.

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Title: Re: "Dago Roller" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Sep 01, 2013, 21:04:55
its coming along...looking nice
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Sep 04, 2013, 09:35:19
Gracias senor!

So I just bought my carbs.. Shed a tear when I bought them, but I know they will be worth it.

Keihin CR26's and a set of 8 main jets (+/-4 sizes).. I know I need filters but I'm not looking to drop another bill on those right now. At least my most expensive part of the ENTIRE build is over with, time to celebrate!....albeit on the cheap. haha!

Next, big purchase is my rear shocks and I'm pretty confident I'm going with YSS shocks as they are middle of the market shocks..
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Sep 06, 2013, 13:50:50
Just got word, my tank plate for my tank is getting machined.. I think it is going to look pretty nice if it looks like it does in my head. I believe the fill cap I'm using is a few pages back, but its from a boat we demo'd at the marina after a hurricane.
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: clem on Sep 06, 2013, 22:00:00
I have a kohler rectifier if you need one, its yours.
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Sep 07, 2013, 00:46:12
Kohler? Like the generators and equipment engines?

Will it work with a 400f or this application?
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Sep 16, 2013, 08:51:11
Done yet?

Seriously, any updates Ronnie?
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: clem on Sep 16, 2013, 10:25:51
Kohler? Like the generators and equipment engines?

Will it work with a 400f or this application?
I thought that what the guys were referring to here. It is for the equipment engines aka riding lawnmower. If it is what they are speaking of you can have it.

Edit, I may be totally confused! Lol!
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: mlinder on Sep 16, 2013, 11:20:54
Interesting name for a project build :P

Why not 'chink', 'zipperhead', 'spic' or the N word that no one is allowed to type?
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: SONIC. on Sep 16, 2013, 11:22:25
Interesting name for a project build :P

Why not 'chink', 'zipperhead', 'spic' or the N word that no one is allowed to type?


HAHAH sensitive much?
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: mlinder on Sep 16, 2013, 11:28:51
Nope :)

Just wondering why someone would call their project build the equivalent of "Gook" or whatever.
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: SONIC. on Sep 16, 2013, 11:29:49
My assumption is that he's italian but who knows  ???
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: mlinder on Sep 16, 2013, 11:32:31
The slur 'dago' has always confounded me as to how it became a derogatory term for Italians, when it started as a derogatory term for Spaniards and Portuguese.

Some bastardization of the last name "Diego".

Dun know many Italian Diegos. :)
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: SONIC. on Sep 16, 2013, 11:35:57
I always wondered the same thing honestly  ???
Title: Re: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Sep 16, 2013, 13:30:53
Done yet?

Seriously, any updates Ronnie?
Rich, I was supposed to crew change tomorrow, but it's looking like Wednesday some time because the rig needs it's drilling fluid, yesterday and we're stuck 300 miles away with a tire in one of our Z-drives.. I have a good bit of stuff at home to unbox and pick up my rims from the shop.. So updates are a coming.


Interesting name for a project build :P

Why not 'chink', 'zipperhead', 'spic' or the N word that no one is allowed to type?
Because 1 yes I'm Italian and 2. see below


The slur 'dago' has always confounded me as to how it became a derogatory term for Italians, when it started as a derogatory term for Spaniards and Portuguese.

Some bastardization of the last name "Diego".

Dun know many Italian Diegos. :)
The term dago originated in the north east USA back in the day when the Italians came over on their boats looking for new opportunities. At first, they were paid by the week, but they soon found out that businessmen would fire them or just not pay them before the weeks end. So we got smart and made them pay us as the "day goes" by, hence the term dagos. The Italians, Irish, and Scotts were all treated almost as if they were slaves, they were considered the lowest in society. But yea, that's where the term comes from, and diego I'm sure is a Spanish translation of that.

The second reason I named this dago was because I work on a ship so I can really only get to my bike half of the year, so I get to it as the day goes by when I'm home.

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: mlinder on Sep 16, 2013, 19:10:22
I getcha.

I'm just wondering if a black guy naming his bike build "ni**er" would fly here. :)

For the record, the term Dago was transferred to Italians in the early 1900's. It was coined in the 1600's referring to, as I said, Spaniards and Portuguese.

Anyway, have fun with the 350f. Was always one of my favorite bikes. There's nothing like the song of that little 4 banger at 10k RPM :)
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Ichiban Moto on Sep 16, 2013, 19:34:40
Here is the complete list of  bike  names...   um,

 I mean derogatory terms ::  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Ichiban Moto on Sep 16, 2013, 19:38:39
Bike names for whitey : http://www.rsdb.org/race/whites
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: mlinder on Sep 16, 2013, 19:44:20
Here is the complete list of  bike  names...   um,

 I mean derogatory terms ::  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs

There's nothing listed for Sicilians in there.. I'm offended by this blatant discrimination.
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Sep 16, 2013, 20:31:03
Ok, so back to this Rad motorcycle being built around here.......

Keep at it Ronnie! I'm excited for updates on this bike. I'm living vicariously thru the internet......
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Sep 16, 2013, 22:37:15
Ok, so back to this Rad motorcycle being built around here.......

Keep at it Ronnie! I'm excited for updates on this bike.
X1  ^^^
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Sep 17, 2013, 07:19:00
Haha! Yea, I'll get to the updates soon, crew change was pushed back to Wednesday.. Just wanting to get home at this point, been a long month.

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Sep 17, 2013, 07:40:50
I don't find dago offensive. Now if someone calls me that or a wop without knowing what it means,then they will hear some words. And the term dago is referred to Italians here in the USA along with wop (stands for "without papers", Italians were poor and couldn't afford the proper immigration papers), Diego is a word for Spaniards but is a European thing and wasn't much a slur against Spanish people from what I have gathered. Though could be wrong.

I don't see where derogatory terms apply here..

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: 50gary on Sep 17, 2013, 09:17:59
Ronnie great build, I also am a fan of the 350/4
  I honestly thought you were Scottish, with the motto "hold fast"  I'm Scottish on my Mother's side and "Hold Fast" is the official Clan McLeod motto.
  Cheers, 50gary
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Sep 17, 2013, 10:49:28
Ronnie great build, I also am a fan of the 350/4
  I honestly thought you were Scottish, with the motto "hold fast"  I'm Scottish on my Mother's side and "Hold Fast" is the official Clan McLeod motto.
  Cheers, 50gary
Oh thanks man.. Haha, no not Scottish! It's a sailor/seaman term.
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Sep 18, 2013, 22:45:43
So I just got home from offshore... Been up since yesterday at 6pm, 27 hours ago. Had a nice stack of sweet boxes when I got home.. Head is done!! Going to prep it for paint tomorrow. Carbs, tires, velocity stacks, front fender all in! I unfortunately did not get my rims from the shop because our helicopter flight got delayed mulitple times so I didn't get the chance to do it. I'll bring the tires when I pick them up and have the guy mount the tires too. I'm too exhausted to open the boxes any further, and I don't want to mess something up being tired. I'll have some more pictures tomorrow.

I'll post pictures.

Oh and my boots too!

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Sep 18, 2013, 23:06:22
Looks like Christmas time. Except instead of a sweater with reindeer on it, it's actually cool stuff.
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Sep 20, 2013, 00:51:45
So I awoke this morning at a dark and quiet 5am(body is still trying to work the night watch) so I decided to get some work done on my bike while I was up. Crazy thing is, when you wake up that early, you can get a LOT done before noon! I started with getting my head cleaned up and ready for the new gasket and threebond. I did forget to replace the oil galley rubbers.. oh well, the old ones should be alright, hopefully haha! Put the head on, got it all torqued to spec and ready to get the cam in. Got the came in, lined it up with what I think was TDC, but didn't check the marking when the head was off.. Whoops. Got the cam chain tensioner, chain and sprocket all mounted up and looking orderly. I then started with the valve cover and putting the rocker arms and springs in. Come to find out I was missing a locking nut on one of the arms, so I ended up taking on off the ol' 350f I have laying in the garage. Thanks bud. Got that complete and torqued down with some new SS allen bolts that look so much nicer than the old ones, plus I saved time by not having to clean the old ones. I then cleaned up and painted the starter by taking it apart and checking the ohms for proper resistance and cleaned out the brushes and wiped the cap out. Painted it up and put it back together, then installed it in the engine. After that, I put the stator back on.. And initally thought I screwed up big time because I was using another socket wrench on the points side and ended up sheering the two little nubs on the bolt deal.. Then I remember that 350f engine I had lying there, so I stole the points unit out of that one haha! I don't think I'll be able to sell it as a whole by the time the 466 is finished at this rate! I ended up using a impact wrench to tighten down on the stator bolt, just bumped it a few times to tighten it up. Put that all together and cleaned up as well.

The only thing left on it is the breather cover and the left crankcase cover, which I'm doing something special on that I'll show later once the engine is done. These will be the last engine pics until its complete.  I'll include pictures of today's things now for yall to look at. Enjoy.

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Sep 20, 2013, 00:54:07
A couple more...

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Sep 20, 2013, 13:34:59
Very Nice!!!  8)
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Sep 22, 2013, 01:33:40
Done yet?

We expect results here buddy......
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Sep 23, 2013, 09:41:56
No not done yet! Haha! Hopefully today or tomorrow I'll run some wire in the attic so I can start welding. Running some 6ga romex with a 50amp breaker, that should be able to carry enough juice to the puddle metal. Going to get my wheels from Houma today(2 hrs away) and hopefully bringing the tires with me and have the guy mount them while I'm there. Going to call the guy up before I leave to make sure he has tubes. If not I'll pick some up on the way there.

I'll update when I got something for yall.
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Sep 23, 2013, 14:22:09
Wheels picked up! When I get home I'll get the sprocket, brakes, discs mounted. Thought I would share.

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Sep 23, 2013, 21:00:39
You couldn't hear it, but I whistled in awe........
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: clem on Sep 23, 2013, 23:10:18
Who in houma did the wheels?
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Sep 24, 2013, 00:23:51
You know I thought I heard something, but wasn't sure if it was the wind.. Haha!

Clem, it's a place called Motorcycle Specialties on Hollywood Rd. They're truing price is good but thought their tire mounting price was a little high...

Either way, when I got home I put the front brake discs on and I like what I'm seeing. The rear wheel needs some love, I have to make a longer wheel axle by 3mm or so as the stock one is somehow not long enough with the new bearings. I'll cut up some pipe tomorrow at the marina. Also, need to press the sprocket studs out of the old sprocket so I can bolt on the new AL 520 chain sprocket. Shold have that done tomorrow and that will allow me to install the new brake pads and springs for the rear drum.

Also, in the morning I will be running the new wire conduit for the welder and getting the outlet mounted and what not. More pictures to follow.. And I'm including a picture of the front wheel(leaning against the covered ominous engine, wink)


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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: clem on Sep 24, 2013, 08:07:43
They or Paul Miller have been there for a long time and are pretty reputable. Most places don't like to mount tires that they didn't sell ;). Do they still do engine work? I haven't been that way in a while.
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Sep 24, 2013, 09:02:43
Oh yea, I'm sure.. I mean they were reasonable for mounting and balancing but they weren't the cheapest I have used. No big deal, it's done so that's what mattered. I think they still do engine work, they were working on a bike when I was there, not sure what it was, but it wasn't cosmetic.
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: clem on Sep 24, 2013, 09:13:32
Cool, If you ever need anything else brought down there, i'm working in metairie off of causeway and I'm usually in Houma a bit on the weekends.
Anyways the wheels look good along with the engine. Should be good when it goes back in the bike.
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Sep 25, 2013, 00:21:54
Thanks Clem, I'll keep that in mind.

Sanded the brake drum with some 120 grit paper to get the rust off, looks like it will be good enough for the pads to handle the rest. Put the new pads and Springs on the brake assembly. I would have the sprocket on but I need some new nuts to hold the sprocket studs on. But I cleaned everything up with wire wheel so I just need to assemble when I get the parts. Also, my axle spacer is a hair too short so I need to make a new one before I can stick the brakes in. Hopefully I can get that done tomorrow.

Finished running the new wire and installing the 50 amp break and outlet for the welder today. Gave it a go tonight, and I can put the pedal to the deck like it's my job! Awesome, and welding commences!!

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Kanticoy on Sep 25, 2013, 01:02:11
Looks awesome Ronnie! This girl going to make barbers?
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Sep 25, 2013, 09:45:24
Looks awesome Ronnie! This girl going to make barbers?
Thanks Kiley! No way, I wish though! I was shooting for it but I ran into too many hiccups over the summer. So I'm shooting for spring. Spring Thaw II..??

I'll have the rear wheel done today, going to the hardware store to get some metric bolts for the intake boots and nuts for the sprocket studs. Hopefully I can get the axle spacer made. Anyone know the stock size of that? Or if it is supposed to have a little play in it hub when the bearings are in?
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: 50gary on Sep 25, 2013, 09:48:31
I like the look's of those rear brake shoes, that's called "arcing" is it not?
 No "play" in the spacers, close fit.  Some years ago I called a couple of race suspension shops and asked them what the tolerance for front to rear wheel alignment (track) was?  The answer was 1/2mm = 0.020" not much over a typical 55" ~ 56" wheelbase.
  Cheers, 50gary
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Sep 25, 2013, 14:24:08
As far as I know they are just called grooved brake shoes...  Who knows. Yea, I figured that the play wasn't any good.

Well got something done today, got the sprocket bolted up and clipped in. And bolted up the intake manifold boots to the head with some new bolts as well. Decided I would play a little more with the swing arm brace, did a little trimming and bending and I think I have it where I want it. Picture is upside down as I didn't have anyone to help hold everything so I used tape and gravity..

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Sep 29, 2013, 00:25:40
Got my tank fill adapter plate from my machinist today and my dad brought some SS TIG rods home from the marina so I'll be welding the swinger brace and tank fill come Monday or Tuesday. Need to cut out the existing fill hole beforehand and the adapter should fit nicely in the recess that is already there. But I think the marine gas fill will add a nice smooth and unique touch to the popular tank, among other things... But here are a couple snaps I took when I got home tonight. More later, until then...

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Sep 29, 2013, 20:10:51
Welded up my tank cap flange this afternoon. And now I'm headed to hang out with my machinist and see about my axle spacer for the rear and my front axle.

That is all, enjoy the pictures.

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 01, 2013, 21:10:21
Polished up my gas fill cap I got from a destroyed hurricane boat, going to look pretty dapper on the bike tank once it's faired in.

Both wheels are at my machinist so I can't do much at the moment. I did sand my side covers last night. Earlier I used a hair dryer to take the 360 emblems off the Mojave tank. Will try to sand that tomorrow and then fair both the tank and the side covers to prime this weekend. I'll be using AWLfair and AWLGrip 545 primer, because it's darn good stuff(see: pricey) and because our painters at the marina are spraying the primer on a boat this weekend at the boatyard. So I just need to have it faired and they will hit those pieces a good lick.

Here is a picture of my polished gas fill cap.

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: yorkie350 on Oct 02, 2013, 17:01:50
wow still as cool  8)  everything ya do is top notch mate  :P you got skills Ronnie thats for sure keep goin mate finish line closer everyday those carbs gonna be sweet wot was the cost on them if ya don't mind me asking  not cheap :o  i know that much but worth it ime sure  :P gonna get back to finishing mine now all the vacations  'n' shit are out the way haha  ;) ya got my vote BOTM when it happens  ;)
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Oct 02, 2013, 22:09:36
I can't wait to see this thing finished...I love the gas filler !
Title: Re: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 02, 2013, 23:06:08
wow still as cool  8)  everything ya do is top notch mate  :P you got skills Ronnie thats for sure keep goin mate finish line closer everyday those carbs gonna be sweet wot was the cost on them if ya don't mind me asking  not cheap :o  i know that much but worth it ime sure  :P gonna get back to finishing mine now all the vacations  'n' shit are out the way haha  ;) ya got my vote BOTM when it happens  ;)
Thanks yorkie, much obliged my friend. They came out to 740 with the extra 8 jets. But it would have been a huge hassle with the stock 350f carbs, plus they would probably have been slightly too small. I agree worth it in the end.


I can't wait to see this thing finished...I love the gas filler !
Yea me too brotha! Yea me too, I thought it would be unique and it adds to my character and background. So win win.

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 18, 2013, 02:35:31
I'm about to bite the bullet on some clip ons.. Might get some Tarozis but need to do my homework on other options first. I can get OEM honda cbr1000 clip ons with everything on them for $200+shipping but they aren't adjustable which I may want. Or I could get the Tarozis for $130 and probably get the rest for a little over a hundred putting me in the same category and I will probably have nicer clip ons that are adjustable and new switches and controls. I just need the clip ons now so when I get home and I get my wheels back I can start working on tank and seat placement. Also, I may just order the full fairing while I'm on the boat... Have to make a few phone calls when I get into port next.

I'm at the point now that I can't move on until I get my tank and seat mounted to the bike. Can't get petcocks, can't start fairing the tank, making the seat pan and sizing the seat, rear set position and brackets, fender placement, wiring, engine electrical components, battery tray, fairing brackets and placement, etc. I'm hoping to get at LEAST the tank mounted when I get home, that's IF my machinist is done with my wheels(praying on that one). Thought I would give yall an update at sea of where this machine is..
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 22, 2013, 00:03:00
Ordered my parts for the front end and electrical switches... Won't see those for 5 weeks but that's alright...
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 22, 2013, 00:03:47
 I will be ordering this bad boy this week though... And THAT I'm pretty excited about! I will be hitting the ground running when I get home because I'll be home for 2 short weeks and some of that will be in California looking at a sailboat. If my rear wheel spacer and front axle is done when I get home, be prepared to see a roller, because that's the only thing holding me back!
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 22, 2013, 20:27:27
So I have been snooping around eBay and CL for some exhaust mufflers off a CBR 600 or similar GSXr.. I think the Honda will fair better under the frame as it's fatter and not as tall as the Suzuki. I'm trying to get some dimensions from some sellers on eBay so well see. But either way I think an OEM exhaust for a 600cc bike will be plenty good enough for my 466cc engine. It's either that or I look at 450 dirt bike exhaust because they are more rectangular in dimension. Time will tell but that would be nice to get before I get home as well.
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Flugtechnik on Oct 23, 2013, 09:40:18
Hope everything comes together so you can have some fun while you are home.
Title: Re: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 23, 2013, 14:23:33
Hope everything comes together so you can have some fun while you are home.
Yea, me too.. It will be a busy winter for sure! I need to be ready for the next spring thaw!
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Oct 23, 2013, 22:14:10
I want updates on how those carbs work out for you... ;)   May have to get me a set of those for mine
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: clem on Oct 23, 2013, 22:55:44
Do you think the 450 silencer would have a large enough O.D.? I can get a measurement if needed.
Title: Re: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 23, 2013, 23:08:57
I want updates on how those carbs work out for you... ;)   May have to get me a set of those for mine

Well I thought about hooking the carbs and the coils up and starting the motor, but I don't have a engine stand and frankly just didn't feel like welding one up. So I may try once the bike is a roller. But TRUST me I'm ready to hook them up too my man!
Title: Re: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 23, 2013, 23:17:39
Do you think the 450 silencer would have a large enough O.D.? I can get a measurement if needed.
I don't know, I looked up more for the GSXR and CBR than a 450 dirt bike silencer. I'm trying to think what my 350f is after the collector. It's probably a good 1.5" easy. I did get a message back from a seller about the CBR muffler dimensions: the can is 16x8x5 inches, the pipe ID is 1.9 in, O.D. is 2.2 inches. So that's for a 600cc. I figure a factory exhaust will be somewhat restricted because of emissions, reliability, and whatever else so I think it would be a good match for about 460cc.

I'll be making the exhaust for the most part, I have a couple sets of 350f headers I can use but they are in rough condition so well see. I may have to just make my own from stainless pipe. If it's not too hard to check your 450 then the dimensions would be helpful for the cause.
Title: Re: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Oct 24, 2013, 10:03:33
I don't know, I looked up more for the GSXR and CBR than a 450 dirt bike silencer. I'm trying to think what my 350f is after the collector. It's probably a good 1.5" easy. I did get a message back from a seller about the CBR muffler dimensions: the can is 16x8x5 inches, the pipe ID is 1.9 in, O.D. is 2.2 inches. So that's for a 600cc. I figure a factory exhaust will be somewhat restricted because of emissions, reliability, and whatever else so I think it would be a good match for about 460cc.

I'll be making the exhaust for the most part, I have a couple sets of 350f headers I can use but they are in rough condition so well see. I may have to just make my own from stainless pipe. If it's not too hard to check your 450 then the dimensions would be helpful for the cause.
Be careful on some of those GSXR's the muffler will bolt to a mid-pipe. You will need the entire mid-pipe ...but I am not sure on the yrs...
Title: Re: Re: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 24, 2013, 11:33:04
Be careful on some of those GSXR's the muffler will bolt to a mid-pipe. You will need the entire mid-pipe ...but I am not sure on the yrs...
Alright, well good thing I was leaning towards the CBR pipe, it's welded so I just need to cut it where I need. Plus the Honda has flatter dimensions so it will have a better profile under the frame.
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Oct 25, 2013, 10:10:39
So you are going under the tail with it?
Title: Re: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 25, 2013, 13:25:31
So you are going under the tail with it?
No under the frame/engine... Similar to a Buell. That is if I have the clearance, if not maybe out the side near the swinger pivot.. As close to the lower side of the frame as I can get for the most part. But time will tell on that theory haha!

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Title: Re: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: haircuttergirl on Oct 25, 2013, 18:42:56
I need to be ready for the next spring thaw!
Yeah... Or else!
Title: Re: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Oct 25, 2013, 18:47:47
No under the frame/engine... Similar to a Buell. That is if I have the clearance, if not maybe out the side near the swinger pivot.. As close to the lower side of the frame as I can get for the most part. But time will tell on that theory haha!

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OK I gotcha... this is what am I thinking on mine...
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Oct 25, 2013, 18:50:51
but with this muffler...lol
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 25, 2013, 19:33:19
I like both of those pipes, what mufflers are those? I know the GSXR isn't stock

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 25, 2013, 19:35:16
Also, I like that setup too, so that's probably my second option

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Oct 25, 2013, 21:35:15
I like both of those pipes, what mufflers are those? I know the GSXR isn't stock

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Cone engineering makes the muffler.....very reasonable too...

http://www.coneeng.com/
Title: Re: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 28, 2013, 18:25:00
Cone engineering makes the muffler.....very reasonable too...

http://www.coneeng.com/

Oh alright, I'll have to check them out for sure then.

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 28, 2013, 18:26:00
Just a picture from work.. Running the rescue boat and snapped a picture of the Nicki Candies.

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: haircuttergirl on Oct 28, 2013, 18:38:47
Just a picture from work.. Running the rescue boat and snapped a picture of the Nicki Candies.

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That... is awesome. You guys totally need a hairdresser aboard.
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 28, 2013, 18:42:49
I will after this hitch.. Pulling six weeks and I cut my hair a month before that.. It's getting unruly to say the least.

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: clem on Oct 28, 2013, 20:05:25
Dude I never heard back from my buddy on the exhaust od. I'll see him Thursday night and pull itfrom him. Sorry.
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: clem on Oct 28, 2013, 20:16:15
I will after this hitch.. Pulling six weeks and I cut my hair a month before that.. It's getting unruly to say the least.

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The longest hitch I pulled was 21 days on Shell's Ram Powell. No way I could do Six weeks on a boat!
Title: Re: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Oct 29, 2013, 13:19:19
Dude I never heard back from my buddy on the exhaust od. I'll see him Thursday night and pull itfrom him. Sorry.
No worries, I have time, thanks again.


The longest hitch I pulled was 21 days on Shell's Ram Powell. No way I could do Six weeks on a boat!
Haha oh it's not that bad haha! I get to read a lot of books when we have down time and I can research things about anything else as well. We are contracted Shell though, but never have been to the Ram Powell.

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Nov 17, 2013, 19:57:15
Just ordered a steering damper off a 07 GSXR, thanks for the help Von. Should be home when I get there in 9 and a wake up.

Can't wait to get my weldin' on!
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: clem on Nov 17, 2013, 20:06:28
First flight 15 minutes out! Lol
Checked out my buddies rmz450f today at the track. About 1" h 1-1/4" od. No way it works for a 4 cylinder bike. You may be able to modify one though. You can bust them down to do a rebuild so it may not get destroyed in the process.
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Nov 26, 2013, 15:12:15
Home suckas! Not all. Motorcycle related but I haven't pilaged through them yet! (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/27/ezehy9a7.jpg)



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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Nov 26, 2013, 15:13:36
Get to work, son!
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Nov 26, 2013, 15:44:46
After the dust settled this is what was left, among books and watches..

Indeed Justin, Tis time to get to work.

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Nov 26, 2013, 23:42:15
Well, as I guessed, my machinist didn't start on my stuff yet. Said he'll do it Friday morning... /:  But tonight I fitted the new Dyna coils to the old stock mounts. They needed slight modification to make them work. Other than that, started to fit my seat to the frame. I probably should have sent that one back to Roc City and got a smaller one but just didn't.......so I took a jigsaw to it an am making it work!

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/IMAG0046_zpse36c13a2.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/IMAG0046_zpse36c13a2.jpg.html)

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/IMAG0043_zps47e17bf4.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/IMAG0043_zps47e17bf4.jpg.html)

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/IMAG0044_zps60edd4f3.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/IMAG0044_zps60edd4f3.jpg.html)

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/IMAG0045_zpsa888a63f.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/IMAG0045_zpsa888a63f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Nov 30, 2013, 00:22:29
Machine work done.. Pictures tomorrow

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Nov 30, 2013, 00:39:20
Tease.
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Nov 30, 2013, 10:42:39
Spent a few hours at the machine shop last night making the new axle spacer and front axle. Here is the story, enjoy.

Making the spacer
(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/IMAG0077_zpsd0839a71.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/IMAG0077_zpsd0839a71.jpg.html)
(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/photo4-1_zps8d9a0cb1.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/photo4-1_zps8d9a0cb1.jpg.html)
(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/IMAG0079_zpsddfba4c1.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/IMAG0079_zpsddfba4c1.jpg.html)
The lathe
(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/IMAG0080_zpse96b1a36.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/IMAG0080_zpse96b1a36.jpg.html)
The finished product next to the old spacer(older on left)
(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/IMAG0081_zps833dd5c7.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/IMAG0081_zps833dd5c7.jpg.html)

What we started out with for the axle, 4140 steel stock
(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/IMAG0074_zpse324253d.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/IMAG0074_zpse324253d.jpg.html)
After turning it down to the diameter of the XS650 wheel bearings and turning down for the 1/2" threads
(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/photo2_zpsff51976f.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/photo2_zpsff51976f.jpg.html)
(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/IMAG0084_zps8ad2dc6b.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/IMAG0084_zps8ad2dc6b.jpg.html)
(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/IMAG0086_zpscf3600a7.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/IMAG0086_zpscf3600a7.jpg.html)
Cutting the 1/2" 20 threads(the original Katana axle nut was drilled and tapped out to 1/2" 20 as well)
(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/photo4_zps236bff8a.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/photo4_zps236bff8a.jpg.html)
Put the axle on the mill to cut the hex head
(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/photo2-2_zpsa35f5e21.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/photo2-2_zpsa35f5e21.jpg.html)
(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/photo3-2_zpsef94055d.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/photo3-2_zpsef94055d.jpg.html)
Boring out the original bushing to match the new diameter axle
(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/photo1-3_zps3d9dc74b.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/photo1-3_zps3d9dc74b.jpg.html)

And behold the final end axle!
(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/photo4-2_zpsf6ffdebc.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/photo4-2_zpsf6ffdebc.jpg.html)
Next to the original axle(a little bit beefier!)
(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/photo5-1_zps30c94c25.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/photo5-1_zps30c94c25.jpg.html)

And with all the parts on it
(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/photo3-3_zpse18cc14d.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/photo3-3_zpse18cc14d.jpg.html)
(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/photo2-3_zpsc51bca16.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/photo2-3_zpsc51bca16.jpg.html)

Now I'm going to get a rolling chasis together!
 
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Dec 01, 2013, 01:31:40
Worked on the swingarm today, and got the brace fitted and welded. Most of the welds look good, but the ones near the rear axle were pretty tough to get to and are a little sloppy. Nothing a little filing and grinding can't smooth out. Other than that, I'm happy with it!

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/IMAG0090_zpsf0e12073.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/IMAG0090_zpsf0e12073.jpg.html)
(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/IMAG0091_zpsd269d4d6.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/IMAG0091_zpsd269d4d6.jpg.html)
(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/IMAG0093_zpsafa5af5e.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/IMAG0093_zpsafa5af5e.jpg.html)
(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/IMAG0094_zps1020da17.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/IMAG0094_zps1020da17.jpg.html)
(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/IMAG0095_zps302b36f9.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/IMAG0095_zps302b36f9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Flugtechnik on Dec 01, 2013, 18:32:07
Hot Diggity!
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Dec 01, 2013, 21:36:12
Trees on trees on trees...

Came to a little hick up.. None of the lower triples and stems work in their current configuration. I pressed out the Katana stem but it won't work (realized after) with the CBR top triple. The current CBR stem is too long for the frame and needs machine work to make fit. The stock CB stem will work but I need to get that one out and put it in the CBR lower. I'm making an appointment with the machinist to finish the front end. We forgot to step the axle we made down to fit the other side of the Katana fork, and I need spacers to fit the XS650 wheel seals. Hoping to get that done Thurs. Other than that, I am getting what I wanted to get done in this short two weeks so far.


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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: clem on Dec 01, 2013, 21:42:18
Moving along nicely. That's definetly some mix matching going on there, should be worth the headaches when its done though.
Title: Re: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Dec 02, 2013, 02:21:01
Moving along nicely. That's definetly some mix matching going on there, should be worth the headaches when its done though.
One can only hope haha!

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Dec 09, 2013, 19:06:29
Went to my machinist today to get my fork stem situation fixed before I go back to work tomorrow.  Just swapped stems earlier at the marina. I'll post some pictures when I get home tonight. Hoping to get the frame rolling tonight.

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Dec 10, 2013, 00:00:04
So I have a rolling frame! Just need some longer shocks (think the PO wanted a chopper as the other forks were longer than stock and these rear are short) some front wheel axle spacers and I'm done with that aspect! It's not the best mount to a stand but it's going to do. I wanted a roller before I went offshore and I actually accomplished something on time, a first for this project!

Still haven't installed the stem bearings or swinger bushings. Going to do that after paint for now, at least for the swinger.

If anyone sees an inconsistency or something wrong so far please let me know now so I can work on s
fixing it. The only thing that is throwing me off is the rear tire to seat clearance. I know longer shocks will provide more space but, something has me double guessing that. Am I right in the doubt?

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Floegstad on Dec 10, 2013, 07:45:26
Looks great Ronnie! :)
What rotors are those good lookin ones u got there?
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: 50gary on Dec 10, 2013, 08:48:23
Eye to eye what is the length of those rear shocks?  Remember, you'll have about 20mm sag as well.  The bike is looking real nice.
  Cheers, 50gary
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: shift_love on Dec 10, 2013, 17:09:39
holy hell! what a fantastic build, and i thought i was going all out by tearing mine down piece by piece and putting it back together, youve put in some serious work, im really really interested in how the 466 motor will fare because thats exactly what i want to do to my 350f in the coming year

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Dec 11, 2013, 02:54:11
Looks great Ronnie! :)
What rotors are those good lookin ones u got there?
They are 01 CBR 1000 rotors I think, maybe 900 I'd have to look it up. But pretty sure about it.

Eye to eye what is the length of those rear shocks?  Remember, you'll have about 20mm sag as well.  The bike is looking real nice.
  Cheers, 50gary
The ones on there I think at 9" or 10" I can't remember. But I know when I measured them they are a few inches too short. Thanks man.

holy hell! what a fantastic build, and i thought i was going all out by tearing mine down piece by piece and putting it back together, youve put in some serious work, im really really interested in how the 466 motor will fare because thats exactly what i want to do to my 350f in the coming year

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Haha, well thanks bud! Yea, I'm interested in hearing it and seeing what its got myself. You'd have to ask some more experienced guys but I'm not sure you can do the 466cc piston kit in the 350f not enough metal to do it. I have heard of putting the 400f stock pistons in there though! Good luck though, these engines are nice when you get them rev'd up!
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Kemp on Dec 11, 2013, 13:00:01
You might be able to put the liners from the 400F into the 350F. You would need to open up (bore) the cylinder casting of the 350F just a bit to accept the 400F liners. Then you could go with the 466 kit. A bit of a sleeper!!

I think the 350F uses 12.5 inch shocks as standard. A nice 13-13 1/2  inch Ikon would look good on that beast and give you rebound adjustment as well. They cost only $360 in Canada so the price should be similar for you in the USA.

Really hot build!
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Dec 11, 2013, 13:09:54
Looking great man...12.5 are stock length shocks but I went with a 13.25...I love that front wheel with the dual rotor set up ;D
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: shift_love on Dec 11, 2013, 17:17:18
You might be able to put the liners from the 400F into the 350F. You would need to open up (bore) the cylinder casting of the 350F just a bit to accept the 400F liners. Then you could go with the 466 kit. A bit of a sleeper!!

I think the 350F uses 12.5 inch shocks as standard. A nice 13-13 1/2  inch Ikon would look good on that beast and give you rebound adjustment as well. They cost only $360 in Canada so the price should be similar for you in the USA.

Really hot build!

do you think the rods and crank would be up to that? i mean were talking about another 10hp after head work and all that is done...maybe lol, it would be interesting, i just planned on doing a straight 400f swap, but looking at gearing commander, the gear ratios of the 350f trans is better with 5spd than the 400f's 6spd
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Dec 12, 2013, 12:02:56
You might be able to put the liners from the 400F into the 350F. You would need to open up (bore) the cylinder casting of the 350F just a bit to accept the 400F liners. Then you could go with the 466 kit. A bit of a sleeper!!

I think the 350F uses 12.5 inch shocks as standard. A nice 13-13 1/2  inch Ikon would look good on that beast and give you rebound adjustment as well. They cost only $360 in Canada so the price should be similar for you in the USA.

Really hot build!
Thanks for the measurements, I will make some temp shocks out of pipe when I get home to see if I like the 12.5 or 12.5 height. It still irks me a little how low the back frame is with those shocks, I feel like the 12s and 13s wouldn't do THAT much. Well see, I know I haven't done anything wrong(I think haha). I'm checking out those Ikons now, I was looking at some YSS shocks from moto-madness. They are about the same price.

And thanks for the sizzlin compliment haha!
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Dec 12, 2013, 12:08:13
Looking great man...12.5 are stock length shocks but I went with a 13.25...I love that front wheel with the dual rotor set up ;D
Thanks, yea I like them too! Just need to make some spacers for the calipers and we're all good there! I think I would have been fine if I used the Katana triples but I went with the CBR which is wider(but a LOT lighter) so now the forks are too far apart for the calipers to line up with the discs.

do you think the rods and crank would be up to that? i mean were talking about another 10hp after head work and all that is done...maybe lol, it would be interesting, i just planned on doing a straight 400f swap, but looking at gearing commander, the gear ratios of the 350f trans is better with 5spd than the 400f's 6spd
I'm not sure, I just did the 400 swap. I was told was a much better engine than the 350f all around. Plus there are more parts for it engine wise, at least from what I saw. Though some parts are interchangeable (Trust me I know haha!)
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: shift_love on Dec 12, 2013, 14:27:16
well if you know of a spare motor running around id be glad to take it off your hands  ;D

i would of course pay you a reasonable price...but yea still looking
Title: Re: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Dec 16, 2013, 07:51:07
well if you know of a spare motor running around id be glad to take it off your hands  ;D

i would of course pay you a reasonable price...but yea still looking
Spare 350f engine? Or 400f?

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: shift_love on Dec 16, 2013, 11:03:38
400f.
Title: Re: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Dec 17, 2013, 04:23:39
400f.
yea don't have one of those but I have a spare complete 400f head I'm not using, and will be selling soon

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 02, 2014, 01:05:40
Full fairing made it to the house last week.. Waiting on the xs front hub spacers coming from Brad..

I get off the ship Tues and then off to Boston for a week and driving home. I'm ready to get the tank mounted and the seat fibreglassed to fit. Seat hoop needs to be made and welded, though I need to find some chromoly tubing to make that with.

Updates soon my friends.

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: neevo on Jan 06, 2014, 17:34:51
Just got caught up on your thread ronnie, looking awesome and at that stage where its just about to come together... very exciting.

I noticed on your SS bolt kit for your engine it appears to have washers, is that correct? I didn't get any with mine but may look to add them for that shouldered look.
Title: Re: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 07, 2014, 02:53:15
Just got caught up on your thread ronnie, looking awesome and at that stage where its just about to come together... very exciting.

I noticed on your SS bolt kit for your engine it appears to have washers, is that correct? I didn't get any with mine but may look to add them for that shouldered look.
Some of the individual bags had washers but I ended up buying a bag of 8mmx12mm shouldered Allen head bolts for the oil pan and cut down others of other things the kit didn't include. But when I got the extra bolts, I bought SS washers to use too. I figured it would help distribute the load a little better on the AL, and keep from twisting the paint off. But I agree, I think it adds a little something extra.

Yea man, thanks.. Just waiting on some wheel spacers from Brad and I get home from Boston next week and I'll get to it with mounting the tank properly and glassing the seat up and fitted. Also, need to find some chromoly tubing to make the seat hoop on the back.

Just excited to get home to knock some things out. The Spring Thaw isn't far away and I don't want to miss it on this bike!

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 18, 2014, 01:25:57
So you guys should know by now what happens when I get home from work... UPDATES and PICTURES!

I got home and my fairing was waiting there in the garage, so of course I threw it on the bike with the tank, side cover, and seat for a quick mock up and a smidge of motivating visuals. I didn't do much in the actual "work" department, I did however throw the clip-ons on the forks to get some measuring of where they need to be, how the seat and tank feel, etc.

Anyways here are some pictures...

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/CB%20460/IMAG0323_zpsbqbxflzx.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/CB%20460/IMAG0323_zpsbqbxflzx.jpg.html)

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/CB%20460/IMAG0324_zpsbqu67w4z.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/CB%20460/IMAG0324_zpsbqu67w4z.jpg.html)

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/CB%20460/IMAG0327_zpsyncqbh1y.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/CB%20460/IMAG0327_zpsyncqbh1y.jpg.html)

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/CB%20460/IMAG0328_zps3hyd1hcs.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/CB%20460/IMAG0328_zps3hyd1hcs.jpg.html)

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/CB%20460/IMAG0329_zpsf5k7olxa.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/CB%20460/IMAG0329_zpsf5k7olxa.jpg.html)
Title: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: neevo on Jan 18, 2014, 02:12:04
Wow. Sexy time!

Is it made for the bike I does it require some "massaging"?
Title: Re: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 18, 2014, 10:41:02
Wow. Sexy time!

Is it made for the bike I does it require some "massaging"?
Yea it will take a little massaging bit not too much. It is for a benelli 350 which is a similar sized inline 4 bike. It's just hard right now because the bike can't stand on its own so the stand gets in the way.

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Kemp on Jan 18, 2014, 11:41:43
It's going to be a looker. The lines of the fairing really work with your Benelli tank and cafe bullet seat, a classic!
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Jan 18, 2014, 12:42:17
Fuck. Yeah!

Any chance this will be done by the meltdown?
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 19, 2014, 21:41:15
Fuck. Yeah!

Any chance this will be done by the meltdown?
I am trying! So it's up in the air at this point.. But no doubt trying!
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Kanticoy on Jan 20, 2014, 01:23:19
Pure sex dude...as opposed to tainted sex. It's a good thing.
Title: Re: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 20, 2014, 14:43:21
Pure sex dude...as opposed to tainted sex. It's a good thing.
Haha! Thanks, Yea I hope it's pure first then gets tainted, I feel that would be correct order!

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 25, 2014, 10:36:16
A little update this week.. Put my bottom bearing on for the steering stem so I can halfway mount the front end without it moving around so much. I trimmed down the fork stop so the bike can turn more than a inch, though I still need to take off some off the actual lower triple to get the rest. I started working on the tank and getting it mounted. I got some thin wall 1 1/2" pipe, split it and bent it to make a gromet mount to weld on to the tank. I bough a 3/8" grade 8 shouldered bolt to weld onto the existing gromet holders on the frame. I'll be using a combination of hose to make the new rubber gromets for the new tank as its a bit wider underneath than the stock tank. One of the holders on the tank needs a little attitude adjusting to get it straigher but other than that, I'm happy with the results.

Well here are the pictures as of now..

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/CB%20460/IMAG0352_zpstcjrjftk.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/CB%20460/IMAG0352_zpstcjrjftk.jpg.html)

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/CB%20460/IMAG0353_zpsabev9msi.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/CB%20460/IMAG0353_zpsabev9msi.jpg.html)

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/CB%20460/IMAG0354_zpsomxaselt.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/CB%20460/IMAG0354_zpsomxaselt.jpg.html)

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/CB%20460/IMAG0356_zps2eoxqnbf.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/CB%20460/IMAG0356_zps2eoxqnbf.jpg.html)

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/CB%20460/IMAG0357_zpshrrscbic.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/CB%20460/IMAG0357_zpshrrscbic.jpg.html)

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/CB%20460/IMAG0360_zpsannlpicy.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/CB%20460/IMAG0360_zpsannlpicy.jpg.html)

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/CB%20460/IMAG0361_zpsutcanarq.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/CB%20460/IMAG0361_zpsutcanarq.jpg.html)
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: clem on Jan 25, 2014, 11:17:20
Looks like you will have enough extra space under that tank to hide some stuff. That was a great idea on those tank mounts.
Title: Re: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 25, 2014, 12:58:55
Looks like you will have enough extra space under that tank to hide some stuff. That was a great idea on those tank mounts.
Actually there isn't that much when the coils see under there.. Though maybe behind them.

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: bradj on Jan 25, 2014, 13:18:05
You get those parts my man
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: behrboy on Jan 25, 2014, 17:06:15
Thanks for sharing.  I am so impressed with folks who can turn a thought in their head into a fabricated piece of metal.  Sick!
Title: Re: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jan 25, 2014, 19:53:01
You get those parts my man

Thanks again Brad, I'll fit them up when I get home!

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Mar 05, 2014, 10:18:59
Got home yesterday, and these pretty things were waiting for me.. Time to get to welding and putting things together.

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Kanticoy on Mar 05, 2014, 10:44:15
Ooooooh, nice. You're at that point in the build like I am when you say "screw it, I've already spent a fortune!"
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Mar 05, 2014, 11:08:24
Your bike is going to be purrdy.
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Mar 05, 2014, 19:38:38
Ooooooh, nice. You're at that point in the build like I am when you say "screw it, I've already spent a fortune!"

Hahaha! Yea! Just want it to get done, haha!

Your bike is going to be purrdy.


That's the plan my man!
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Mar 06, 2014, 01:19:52
So I did some work tonight on the bike... Feel like things are coming together nicely for once, and I hope the momentum keeps it up. I welded up a hole I burnt out with over zealous cutting with the acetylene torch last year. Then I whipped out the naphtha bottle and bent a small piece of tubing for the gas tank rear mount. Took a little while and some persuasion with a rather big hammer, but it came out pretty nice. The tank fits in it perfect so that is really all that matters. If anyone wants to say something about a couple gaps between the tank and mount will get a swift kick in the pants. Tomorrow I'm going to make up the brackets/flat plate for the seat pan to ride on and weld those on.

Here are your pictures.
(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/CB%20460/IMAG0522_zpsoihlwoyz.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/CB%20460/IMAG0522_zpsoihlwoyz.jpg.html)

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/CB%20460/IMAG0523_zpsd8gejqmm.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/CB%20460/IMAG0523_zpsd8gejqmm.jpg.html)
(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/CB%20460/IMAG0524_zps9mziqedp.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/CB%20460/IMAG0524_zps9mziqedp.jpg.html)

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/CB%20460/IMAG0525_zpszl6npnoe.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/CB%20460/IMAG0525_zpszl6npnoe.jpg.html)

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/CB%20460/IMAG0526_zpsfqjsbfrm.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/CB%20460/IMAG0526_zpsfqjsbfrm.jpg.html)

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/CB%20460/IMAG0527_zpswlogmawo.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/CB%20460/IMAG0527_zpswlogmawo.jpg.html)

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/CB%20460/IMAG0529_zpsejawoocv.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/CB%20460/IMAG0529_zpsejawoocv.jpg.html)

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/CB%20460/IMAG0530_zpsinyon5cm.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/CB%20460/IMAG0530_zpsinyon5cm.jpg.html)


(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/CB%20460/IMAG0532_zpsh4ql9yqd.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/CB%20460/IMAG0532_zpsh4ql9yqd.jpg.html)





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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Mar 06, 2014, 09:52:15
That's a pretty big gap between the tank and seat...... hell, I don't even see the seat.

Title: Re: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Mar 06, 2014, 10:47:32
That's a pretty big gap between the tank and seat...... hell, I don't even see the seat.
Hahaha!..... Ass.


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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Mar 07, 2014, 01:21:45
Did a little more work tonight on the frame.. Cut a piece of sheet steel for the cross brace under the tank and front of the seat. I'll be able to put the "J"  bolt on to secure the tank to the frame. The seat will have its own securing method later on.

I hope tomorrow night I can bend and weld the seat hoop on. Need to fit the seat first so I know how long I can make it though. It's coming along nicely now, hoping to have the frame rolling next week again so I can put the engine in to mock up where to put my rear sets.. All in due time.

Enjoy the pictures...

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/CB%20460/IMAG0535_zpsfo0h2su4.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/CB%20460/IMAG0535_zpsfo0h2su4.jpg.html)

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/CB%20460/IMAG0536_zpssjrrak2h.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/CB%20460/IMAG0536_zpssjrrak2h.jpg.html)

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/CB%20460/IMAG0537_zpstmxbixag.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/CB%20460/IMAG0537_zpstmxbixag.jpg.html)

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r650/ronniej6911/CB%20460/IMAG0538_zps8mjfd3qk.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/ronniej6911/media/CB%20460/IMAG0538_zps8mjfd3qk.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: haircuttergirl on Mar 07, 2014, 02:52:59
Are you done yet? :)
Title: Re: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Mar 07, 2014, 10:53:35
Are you done yet? :)
Not yet! Getting closer though!

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Mar 10, 2014, 23:59:36
Just got my double banjo bolt from eBay today! Front brakes coming soon!

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: GoshenCafe on May 25, 2014, 20:29:24
I was just wondering if you ever got that banjo bolt mounted. I can't figure out if I'm just supposed to put a closed nut on the other end or what. I figured it was just a direct replacement for that hunky pressure switch, well at least that's what z1enterprises claims.
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Caf'd Out on Jun 15, 2014, 08:39:58
Just read through it all. Nice work Ronnie. Updates? GO, GO, GO!!
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jul 11, 2014, 02:05:08
I was just wondering if you ever got that banjo bolt mounted. I can't figure out if I'm just supposed to put a closed nut on the other end or what. I figured it was just a direct replacement for that hunky pressure switch, well at least that's what z1enterprises claims.
Yea, I had to order a new one as the threads were not right. But it just bolts into the brake lever MC.
Just read through it all. Nice work Ronnie. Updates? GO, GO, GO!!
Thanks man, I actually have nothing to report unfortunately.. O bought a sailboat in Jan which will be my home and I have been refitting that since. This project is on the back burner for the time being. Not only that but my folks sold their business so our shop and garage at the house is cluttered to the max, plus my sailboat stuff.. Just not good timing, as they say life!

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jul 11, 2014, 02:11:47
This was the last pictures I took of the bike, just a mock up but something for you guys. . (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/11/adade8ep.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/11/unamazej.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/11/tyqy3esu.jpg)


And here is what I have been working on that's keeping me from here..

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/11/hena5e9u.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/11/a4adu9uv.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/11/ru2uhy8u.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/11/5ebysyhy.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/11/avu5ede9.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/11/e2yqa3uz.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/11/5ene7ypa.jpg)

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Big Rich on Jul 11, 2014, 02:30:28
Good to hear you're alive and well Ronnie.

But you need to get your priorities straight! People live on motorcycles too..... haha.
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Jul 11, 2014, 03:18:48
Good to hear you're alive and well Ronnie.

But you need to get your priorities straight! People live on motorcycles too..... haha.
Haha! Yea, you right!

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Mar 19, 2015, 20:40:46
Did you ever finish the bike??
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: ronnie on Feb 03, 2016, 22:41:49
Did you ever finish the bike??
Nope, she's in storage until I get to the next part of my life on terra firma. My fiancee and I are moving on the boat and sailing around until we decide to stop.

I fully intend to finish her when we get a house and garage. I had to clean up my area at my folks shop so my dad can rebuild some old Farmall tractors.

I'll post some pictures of the engine when I finally add some oil to it and build a stand to put in my room to look pretty (:

I'll be back on here, someone has to keep you degenerates in line. Wink

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Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: Flugtechnik on Feb 03, 2016, 23:33:20
Glad to see you are still afloat.  Enjoy your life!  We'll see you when you get back.
Title: Re: "Dago" Resurrecting a 350F gently
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Feb 04, 2016, 13:10:28
I am jealous !!  I think I could sell everything and sail around..the wife not so much