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Title: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Dec 17, 2013, 12:55:46
Hi guys! Well little introduction.

I'm 32, race supermoto, ride dirt and while i love riding other peoples sport bikes they just arent for me.. Three summers ago I had a GS850 that I sold for a hell of a profit which got me my first supermoto, well kinda, a DRZ doesnt really count hahaha. then i sold that to build a bike for racing. Spent a summer without a street bike. I live in a rather boring place for bikes but the only thing more boring come end of summer then street riding, is not street riding at all!

So I hit up kijiji, There really isnt a lot to pick from around here and usually you either have cheap junk, or overpriced shiny junk.. There was a pretty neat GN250  but i'm 6'4 and had told myself no less then 40hp, I've also wanted a twin for years. After about a month I came across this gem, The PO built it as a little chopper for his wife, who recently became his ex-wife, $1800 later i had myself a pretty minty little bike. The bike was brought to Alberta from BC last winter and just passed its out of province inspection last summer. That means everything works and nothing leaks. The bike was basically completely rebuilt last winter.

The plans are pretty run of the mill, it needs to run (and run well) all the time, or as much as possible anyway, it needs to be able to get me around in the rain as its not uncommon for us to have crazy mini storms roll in at around 4pm right before im heading home from work. It needs to look good and be fun to ride.

I've already dropped roughly $1500 on parts, they're all in the mail but figured since i tore the bike down last night i'd get started on this.

PLANS

~24" long flat tracker seat (keeping the bike 2up capable)
4 cell A123 battery (making that myself)
super bike bars
super cheesy red 'honda' grips
after market levers
07+ R6 motion pro quick turn throttle (no right side switch on the bike)
aftermarket left side switch, horn, signal, kill
18" rear wheel
-2/+4 sprockets (something like that anyway)
520 conversion (If possible, waiting for JT to get back to me about sprockets)
integrated rear light, led front signals
all black shock/spring for the rear, boots for the front
CB360 tank
CL450 headers to custom mufflers (the damn headers already need a bunch of work just to fit)
off/on/start 4 wire ignition switch (no start button)
GM coil mod
Thinking 3.50-18 Shinko 244's but im not dead set on tires yet
I would like to eventually upgrade the front end. I'm really like the looks of modern conventional forks on old bikes. Especially with the smaller frame size of this bike, I think it looks better then USD. so maybe something from an early 2000's 600

I have uni filters coming BUT i'm going to smooth the air box out as best as i can and have it carbon vinyl wrapped. I have the canadian carbs which i hear are easier to work with then the american ones buuuuuuuut.... we all know how that goes. So i'll have the prettiest possible stock air box just in case.

I think thats it... anyway on to the pics!

how it looked when I picked it up (remember when i said it was mint)

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/3CFA7345-34C5-430A-8D2E-B2FEB356A3BA_zps3j1unwna.jpg)

those pipes on the stock headers have baffles and run great on stock jetting, they will be transferred to the scrambler headers.

close up of the sweet tank paint job

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/1488373_10153554612980247_430590665_n_zpsf1a04d42.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/1484948_10153554616595247_1130500657_n_zpsd34a09ff.jpg)

Im doing a 30 second interval time laps with the gopro of the entire build, here is the start and finish last night. Ill upload each nights work then a final complete video at the end.

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/GOPR1097_zpsfd62d9a0.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/GOPR1301_zps66cd9b14.jpg)

a little inspiration

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/1472986_10153590445945247_462508467_n_zps73019fdf.jpg)

Fortunately im old enough to realize that most of the bike we drool over in a google search arent daily ridden, hell id be surprised if some are even ridden once a month. So I have realistic goals in mind for my little daily beater.

Thanks for looking and for the time being I guess ill go back to waiting on parts..
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker ride it to work type thing
Post by: D4N63R on Dec 17, 2013, 13:47:57
Removed parts, not shown are the cables and harness and all that junk

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/D162C3CC-6421-4A34-B27F-5DB0465F89AE_zpsi0hmnfxq.jpg)

the first problem with the exhaust

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/5abb2b8b-dae7-41f5-bfd7-ea6c3db97177_zpsea1b0802.jpg)
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker ride it to work type thing
Post by: Joe Suzuki on Dec 17, 2013, 15:03:58
I'm on board! Can't wait to see what you have in store. Love your inspiration bike. Where can I find out more about that one?
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker ride it to work type thing
Post by: D4N63R on Dec 17, 2013, 15:57:36
I found it on this forum actually! hold on ill go find the link to the build.

here it is http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=36443.0

over the past few weeks ive been going through all the builds in this section, as well as the you bought a/now what builds for these terrible frames haha
Title: '83 CM450e brat tracker ride it to work type thing
Post by: D4N63R on Dec 17, 2013, 23:33:04
A better shot of the current state.

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/A7625EB6-40FE-41D9-97FE-1905202C2C49_zpsnliibjgy.jpg)
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker ride it to work type thing
Post by: JGHiggins1 on Dec 18, 2013, 03:04:47
I am looking forward to seeing the new life this bike takes on. I just finished up the wiring on my cm450e tonight . I installed a cb400t transmission and kick start in so i could ditch the battery and starter. It makes me happy that folks like yourself are taking interest in these bikes.
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker ride it to work type thing
Post by: D4N63R on Dec 18, 2013, 11:19:48
It may have been your thread I was reading yesterday about doing that?, Kick would be great but I may just ride this beast to California this summer so the 6 spd will come in handy hahaha.

I realize a lot of people dont like these, but with a grinder and a welder you can make anything cool, The CB's are few and far between and people have just caught on to the XS650's around here so they are pulling 4-5000 which is ridiculous. These little guys are perfect, 400lbs 50ish hp. great for in the city and some little freeway blasts! If I wanna go fast I have the green devil sitting there, (the furthest from the camera) It's an 05 ZX10R with a fully built motor and good time gearing (pulls the front on command in 3rd) hahaha
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker ride it to work type thing
Post by: JGHiggins1 on Dec 18, 2013, 11:51:03
I was a bit reluctant to give up my 6th gear at first but it seemed I was always having to knock down to 5th to get my guts when i needed them on the freeway. I must admit 6 was nice for long flat stretches. 
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker ride it to work type thing
Post by: D4N63R on Dec 18, 2013, 14:09:38
 If it came down to it i could always just swap the CS sprocket to lower the highway rpms the 1 or 2 times a year i would need to do it.. We are already planning a trip to Mount St. Helens. On a bike trip the idea is to take fun roads anyway right? We would trailer the bikes 3 hours south to Calgary (it is literally STRAIT south) then just head strait for the mountains from there so long, strait roads are minimized.

I haven't even ridden this thing yet but I can imagine 6th is pretty much useless with the stock gearing. Thats why i figured i would gear the snot out of the bike, make it use 6th gear and make it more fun in the city. Maybe i'll have a look for a scrap motor at the local wreckers. How is the bike to kick over? Is it like kicking a 4 stroke dirt bike? I can watch youtube videos of kick bikes all day but that doesnt really tell me anything.
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker ride it to work type thing
Post by: JGHiggins1 on Dec 18, 2013, 18:34:01
It kicks over pretty smooth most of the time. It likes to be stubborn sometimes but then that's life with older engines. 9 times out of 10 the kick is smooth and it fires and the other 1 time is generally user error. I even tried kicking it over when it was below 32F the other morning and it barked right to life on the second or third kick.
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Dec 19, 2013, 11:40:41
Had my shocks show up yesterday. they look as terrible as I expected. I think im just going to re sell them and get some Hagon's for the rear and springs for the front.. I've emailed their canadian distributor about getting a set shipped over to me.

Just got an email from JT as well... looks like im staying 530

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/20daed51-9bc7-4cf0-a5a9-7fe6af3f1198_zpsd0ccd067.png)
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Dec 21, 2013, 20:10:47
Bars and levers are here :)

went out and mocked them up so i can drill the bars for the wiring, also have Sonreir doing up a new speedo face. From what i can tell my seat hasnt even shipped yet and its been 15 days... time for a message I think.
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Dec 22, 2013, 19:17:43
been draggin my butt but here is the first time lapse video

http://youtu.be/yRaFxbkjRtE
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Dec 23, 2013, 22:01:28
speedo face is done! also ordered LED bulbs for it. front end, rear wheel and motor come out tomorrow!

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Speedo-Justin_zpsc72f2612.png)
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Dec 26, 2013, 20:21:21
Video 2!  Seat FINALLY shipped... I really need it and the tank to get here....  either way aside from needing a 26mm socket to get the damn forks out all went well today. Motor is at the shop, i'll clean it tomorrow then paint it Saturday assuming I can find paint in town.

http://youtu.be/HjMO6yPsijo


(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/0996f817-6a3c-48db-ac3e-6a6beeec2127_zpsecbf1d2c.jpg)

Figured we just lay the frame down instead of risking having it fall over on its own and screwing up the paint.

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/b6b738e8-9dad-4049-8b0f-ee68fdcc1a0e_zpsa4141229.jpg)
Title: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Dec 29, 2013, 13:49:01
So my rear wheel showed up. Shipping weight is 42lbs!!!!!  What the hell. How do these bikes even accelerate with that kind of weight back there? That has to be from the drums. If I like the bike enough to keep it for another year it's definitely going aluminum swing arm, modern forks, supermoto 17's and discs. Sheesh
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Dec 29, 2013, 16:00:54
Motor taped off ready for paint! ill sand down the o-ring surfaces after all is said and done.

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/02c6f290-06ce-4119-8f6a-8453ecaa0298_zps7472bfbe.jpg)

After the second coat

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/fa4412c4-6f57-4e73-a4ea-f9f3193a1fa3_zps00fb71c8.jpg)

Not sure when this one was taken, but the motor is now safely put away for the next 7 days to cure. (thats what the can told me to do)

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/913139ed-2714-42ad-b630-5bf96674367c_zps6d1cf366.jpg)
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 03, 2014, 18:38:26
Now that all that holiday garbage is out of the way I can get back on this! Had my tank arrive :)

Aside from some faded paint and one dent its in pretty good shape. im going to strip and re paint the underside then just give it a quick polish and slap it on, see what it looks like... once the bike is back together anyway. Hopefully get started on the frame tomorrow. It's gotten cold out again so I have to bring it to my work.

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/1453531_10153639714780247_708609824_n_zpsa8001a54.jpg)
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: DoTheTodd on Jan 03, 2014, 19:54:00
I'm definitely going to be following this build.  I'm liking the progress so far, and your plans sound like you'll have a fun bike at the end.

What part of Alberta are you in?  My dad is from Edmonton and I have a friend in Calgary.
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 03, 2014, 20:53:18
I live in Edmonton :)

progress has been a bit slow so far but that is to be expected when i order everything right before Christmas i suppose.

Got home from work and my seat was sitting on the front step! also have a parcel slip for more parts. I'll go get that tomorrow. Going to bring the airbox inside and get to work on that ugly thing as well... its something i can plug away at while im nice and warm in front of the computer.

good thing the woman and I are both skinny...  i couldn't get the bars to 'pose' with the tank and seat but oh well hahaha

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/seatandtank_zps0c7edc31.jpg)



Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: animalrobot on Jan 03, 2014, 23:11:20
I'm stoked on this build! Subscribed. My next bike will definitely be a CB of some kind! Or an XS650, if I can find one for a decent price.
Title: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 03, 2014, 23:46:44
These have the dumbest sub frame. But like I said in my first post the CBs are few and far between around me. And all are waaaaaaaay over priced so I'll make do.
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: 2.3efi on Jan 04, 2014, 00:57:50
Hey that's my bike for the inspiration! sweet haha. Did a 450 also, the 350 tanks look great on them. Check it out in my sig.
Title: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 05, 2014, 01:26:19

Hey that's my bike for the inspiration! sweet haha. Did a 450 also, the 350 tanks look great on them. Check it out in my sig.

Yeah. Ummm. Your 450 is what settled me on this tank hahaha. More specifically this pic. You sir do amazing work!

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/05/2u5a7adu.jpg)

If I keep the bike for the entire summer without wanting to sell it I'll be chopping it's ass off and building a proper one. Today I was offered a F2 Cbr front end, it's conventional fork style. So now I'm wondering if I should just take it and do a GS500 swing arm an rear wheel.
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: sbruton on Jan 05, 2014, 13:52:36
Subscribed from the frozen snow covered wasteland that is... Cowtown.

Looking great so far! 
Title: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 06, 2014, 11:55:07
Looked at the forecast and it appears we are finally going to real this damn cold snap for a while :) last night leaving feed back for my signal lights I realized that 99% if my parts are here so I'm going to chuck the frame in the truck and bring it to work and get cutting. I'm going to do al the cutting and mock up myself. Then I'll tack everything and take it to my friend for final welding. I only have a flux and don't want to spend 10 hours grinding hahaha
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 07, 2014, 16:10:54
So I finally bit the bullet and ordered tires...

I was going back and forth between K70's and BT-45's since the start and in the end after a lot of consideration of where i ride MOST of the time and how I like to ride MOST of the time i finally settled on the Shinko 712  :o hahahahaha  yeah...  here's why. The k70 only comes in a 4.00 for 18" wheels, im 18" front and rear, the K70 is shit on grooved concrete, my cities entire ring road is grooved concrete, the K70 shit above 65-70mph, I like to cruise at that sooooo...  The BT-45 is an amazing tire all around but they cost more and the shinko's have great reviews...
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: sbruton on Jan 07, 2014, 16:24:57
I'm just going through the same rationale exercise on tires myself... I'm leaning towards the K70, but haven't made a final decision. 

Did you buy on line or at your local shop?
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 07, 2014, 17:28:04
online, got them from http://www.canadasmotorcycle.ca/ I get a lot from them, the prices are good and I always manage to hit free shipping hahaha

Ive never had much luck locally when it comes to ordering parts.

The K70 is by far the best looking tire of the bunch, that's all it had going for it and that only matters when you're parked at tim hortons riding the curb! Would it be better on gravel and sand patches? yeah but enough for me to deal with the negatives of the tire? I guess not because I bought something else hahaha 

If this was nothing more then a fair weather bike i probably would have got them but i like to rip around and i'm convinced i can get this POS to do 100mph so the K70 just isnt the best tire for me
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 11, 2014, 22:32:43
So I dragged a bunch of stuff to my work today and got half of what i wanted actually done hahaha... Gopro had an issue at some point and shut off but im going to get what i can from it.. I'm bad for remembering to take pics along the way but I did get a few.

first thing i did was get the tank on,  had to cut the front pegs in half, and then spend 20 minutes or so pounding out the bottom left side of the tank a bit at a time to get it to fit over the frame.

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/IMG_6771_zps360d7f13.jpg)

then onto the seat

rear mount, i need to pick up some 1/8' stuff for the front mount

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/IMG_6773_zps7c4af10d.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/IMG_6778_zps124ac501.jpg)

cut down the front fender, its only 2" but thats enough to make it look better hahaha

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/IMG_6776_zpsb433cfb9.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/IMG_6777_zps7aa225d3.jpg)

I started on the fill plates for under the seat as well.... but they still need some work. It was really nice to see what the bike is actually going to look like!
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 12, 2014, 21:03:11
Went back to the shop and did some painting today.

Had the GF use spray paint for the first time ever, she did the fender and the brake pedal. She looks to be concentrating really really hard hahaha

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/2014-01-12143229_zps6a467d02.jpg)

My idea of a fork stand, two pieces of tube held to a box with plumbers strap. worked great and saved a ton of masking!

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/2014-01-12143005_zps42eb7220.jpg)

and all the little bits hanging to dry. I also sprayed the tank emblems black as they were in pretty rough shape, I'm going to outline them with a gold paint marker.

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/2014-01-12155040_zpsceb9306d.jpg)

Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 13, 2014, 20:48:30
took a pic of the finished forks, super happy with how the paint turned out. also got video 3 together buts so short i wont bother posting it, i'll wait until the final video

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/2014-01-13154347_zpsc7dfb8f1.jpg)

had more stuff show up today. I'm guessing the parcel slip is my helmet.

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/2014-01-13172719_zps5dc00602.jpg)

All this stuff just sitting here taunting me... still waiting on my gauge face, mirrors and other LED's blue ones arrived today, waiting on white and orange/amber I think i may have red ones coming as well, all for the speedo. They are really cheap and i cant decide on a color so i'll try them all.

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/2014-01-13174503_zps5b9334f5.jpg)


Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: sbruton on Jan 14, 2014, 01:43:57
Just like Christmas all over again!!  Sweet.

I love it when  bike parts show up in the mail :)
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 14, 2014, 10:48:26
I have had a steady stream of them arriving since a week before Christmas. It's fantastic.

I've been mulling over an idea for the front end. I think I might grab a rectangle number plate for the front, then use a 6" 18w LED light bar right under it for the head light.
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: animalrobot on Jan 14, 2014, 15:14:01
I love that headlight idea! I've been thinking about a custom headlight, myself. I really like the idea of an LED strip. I was also considering mounting two or three very small fog lights, next to each other. I wonder how much visibility an LED strip would provide?
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 14, 2014, 15:30:55
well the LED light bar should be plenty of light. If it all goes wrong I can just toss the light on my truck as a back up light so no harm done really.

one like this, this is an 8" but the 6" has the same LEDs and power rating, just a smaller housing, an 8" wouldnt fit between the forks. 

(http://d114hh0cykhyb0.cloudfront.net/images/uploads/ORB-18WS-35-LED-WORK-LIGHT-12.jpg)

this is an example of light, the wall is 75' or so away.

(http://d114hh0cykhyb0.cloudfront.net/images/uploads/DSC_8051.jpg)
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: sbruton on Jan 14, 2014, 18:41:46
Seems like a cool idea... are you able to wire that with Hi/Lo beam as well? 
Title: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 14, 2014, 18:55:14
No it'll be on or off. Hahaha. You don't really need a hi beam with them. A 20w light bar is pretty damn bright. So I'll need it aimed pretty low in the city. If I need highway at night light I'll just tilt it up.
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: sbruton on Jan 14, 2014, 19:58:51
Yeah that's cool.  I was just thinking you might need something to appease the law at some point... I bet you could wire in a potentiometer or an on-off-on toggle switch with a resistor on one of the circuits to create a hi/lo.

If you're not concerned about it just ignore my jibberish :)

I don't suppose you need a tail light?   

I have this that I can't use. It's a touch too long for the space I have and I'm going to get something different.

http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vintage-cafe-racer-caferacer-bobber-brat-chopper-custom-motorcycle-electronic-lighting-parts-classic-satin-black-sparto-taillight-34-0306.html

Title: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 14, 2014, 20:01:32
Technically I do need a hi/Low beam switchable headlight. I spent some time in the TSA figure out everything I could legally get rid of haha

I was hoping that was a rectangle taillight. I have an integrated one but don't like it
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: sbruton on Jan 14, 2014, 20:05:03
Yup.  If your bike has already been plated in Alberta you won't have an issue BUT if you need to get an inspection to get your registration they'll hold you to all the regulations.  That is; UNLESS you know somebody.
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 14, 2014, 21:07:48
The bike was actually just OOPI'd buy the previous owner last summer, so its good to go :)

went and got my parcel, dang tires are here already! guess im doing some spooning this weekend.... I hate changing tires ha

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/2014-01-14180114_zpsaa21b5a8.jpg)

and this was in the mailbox :)

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/2014-01-14180455_zpsf89caec3.jpg)
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: Little Heat on Jan 15, 2014, 23:44:34
Hey this is an awesome build, seems similar to what I'm doing, I'm working on an 82 nighthawk 450 going the tracker look with it too,  excited to see how this goes
Title: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 15, 2014, 23:51:05
Well assuming I get the tires on this weekend. It's pretty much 'put it back together time' curious to see how it looks myself.

I also have another parcel slip. It's either mirrors or helmet.
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 17, 2014, 11:13:39
Just ordered a jet kit, new gas cap seal, petcock and throttle tube. That should handle the little bits. everything else I should be able to get locally easy enough.
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: sbruton on Jan 17, 2014, 17:55:23
Time to start buildin' this thing already!

chop. chop.

 :D
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 17, 2014, 18:02:33
gah I know... Only one shit job left and thats changing the tires.... then it all starts going back together hahaha
Title: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 18, 2014, 18:31:10
Changed the tires today (video to come) got a bunch more painting done and swapped my new pegs on. I'll get the wheels painted throughout the week then re assemble the bike next weekend if all goes well.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/19/emere4e3.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/19/etumuqe7.jpg)

Old tire sidewall hahaha.

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Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 19, 2014, 20:46:34
super long tire change video is now done! hahaha

http://youtu.be/p9EAwINbszY
Title: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 20, 2014, 20:41:37
The Internet lies!!!!!!

Everything I read said a cb450 wheel should be a bolt in affair in the rear. Well that's not true. The cb uses a larger diameter axle, and a narrower swing arm. The overall axle length is the same. I can make the swing arm holes bigger easy enough but I'm going to need some longer spacers. Uhg. What a pain :(
Title: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 20, 2014, 22:18:35
Well while I hunt down someone to make me spacers. I did a quick slap together tonight. I can't decide if I should paint the wheels or not.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/21/asu7a8eb.jpg)
Title: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: seansmitty42 on Jan 20, 2014, 22:26:07
Lookin good! Are you going to paint the tank?


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Title: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 20, 2014, 22:44:05
I'm sure I will eventually. The problem with that is it means I actually have to pick a color. I saw an all original 550/4 at the bike show this weekend in this amazing orange color that I really liked. Maybe I'll go with something like that.

Machinist found! :) just need to get my measurements.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/21/gy3upe3e.jpg)
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: sbruton on Jan 21, 2014, 15:11:52
It's those little hiccups that keep the build process interesting :)  If it was easy, everybody would be doing it...

Are you planning to do anything with triangular space under the seat?
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 21, 2014, 15:29:35
originally i was going to just make fill plates, but i need an electronics box anyway so im going to build that into that section, it'll eliminate the empty space but not be flush with the frame. Once that is in if it still looks like crap ill do fill plates as well.

going to buy a caliper at lunch so i can measure my spacers.
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 21, 2014, 22:39:44
brought my speedo cases home and tried to put the speedo back together, the ring is just screwed though.... may have got a custom face for nothing hahaha
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 27, 2014, 16:20:08
UPDATES!!!!  ;D

Forgot to bring the gopro  ::)

picked up some 1/8 flat bar and made proper seat mounts. I can lift the bike with them so that should be good enough. Made a little electronics box, my first time using cardboard engineering :) and threw my head light together in between coats of paint n everything. Still need to open up the swing arm for my 20mm axle. but man its close to going back together!

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/4C08964C-BD07-45C6-ADDF-233041E2832F_zpslu6iueih.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/E4D1FB66-12B5-46B2-8575-B3E6E2A72D70_zpswqf55np2.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/443554F9-DC02-4D22-8C2A-8036CD580C4F_zpsw1g2y0ad.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/AADB55C2-2037-4D8B-BE80-431C64C7DA59_zpsiywcrvoe.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/00BB3139-2764-4AE7-B938-11D8E9103BA9_zpsfjbud3zj.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/2B674348-8C67-4A55-B580-A3781AF5AB59_zpsuawry48x.jpg)
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: Drey6 on Jan 29, 2014, 01:53:18
Sub'd
Just read through the build and its coming together nicely.
Also, thanks for posting a video on  the tires, ill be using it as reference once I start cleaning my rims and putting on the new tires. They happen to be Shinko 712's as well.

Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 29, 2014, 11:09:50
These tires went on super easy, I havnt done street tires before, just MX tires and they have sidewalls made out of steel hahaha
Title: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: Drey6 on Jan 29, 2014, 12:35:15
I can imagine.
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: mannydantyla on Jan 30, 2014, 15:07:44
Can't wait to see how it turns out
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Jan 30, 2014, 15:13:44
you and me both. I have every part now aside from the throttle tube, but that should be here by the end of the week. so i have no excuse but to put the damn thing together... i still havnt painted my wheels but thats okay
Title: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Feb 01, 2014, 22:13:40
Did a bunch of work today. Still soooo much left. Like all the wiring hahaha. I know the headlight is sticking out way too much. I'll flip the brackets and move it back a hole tomorrow, see what that does.

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Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: sbruton on Feb 01, 2014, 22:53:21
Nice!  It's starting to come together... I bet you feel pretty good about the progress.

Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: flyswat2006 on Feb 01, 2014, 23:14:13
Ooh this is going to be sweet.  Isn't re-assembly the best!
Title: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Feb 02, 2014, 00:04:30
It was great to finally sit on it and see how it's going to feel!  It is small but I find it surprisingly comfortable. I'll go put in a few more hours tomorrow
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: OpieWinston on Feb 02, 2014, 20:22:05
Very nice bike!
Which Footpegs did you take?
Title: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Feb 02, 2014, 23:32:02
They are emgo sport bike pegs. Turns out all jap bikes use a 3/8" peg pin so they all fit. I think the fronts were listed for a zx10 and the rears for an r6 hahaha. I may still change the fronts to dirt bike pegs though.

I moved the headlight down a bit and back one hole in the mounts. Looks much better. Now I'm just trying to sort out the wiring harness. I may just get sonreir to make me a cleaned up one.
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: Rude. on Feb 20, 2014, 23:09:41
Cool man, I'll be keeping an eye on this!
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Feb 24, 2014, 10:27:44
Ran into a bit of a snag on the weekend... I came to the shop planning to have all the hard parts done. Reamed the swing arm out for the larger 20mm CB450 rear axle, then bolted the carbs on and set the tank back down annnnnnd this happened... having the bung moved forward 2", that way it drops down right next to the carb boots with plenty of room for the petcock.

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/1903373_10153826409325247_4341622_n1_zpsd1ebef7d.jpg)
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: 2.3efi on Feb 25, 2014, 00:20:31
Ah that last post brings back memories haha. Let me know if you have any clearance issues with the coil under the tank, I think I have some spare brackets I made up to remount the coil and still keep it tucked. 

That color combo is looking great.
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Feb 25, 2014, 10:57:20
it seems to just fit, with a bit of 'love' hahaha... I still plan on doing the GM coil mod, not sure if that will be better or worse clearance wise.  I may PM you for some pics, and measurements though :)
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Mar 31, 2014, 11:58:09
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uhuh... oops hahaha I replaced the floor in my truck so i've been away from the bikes for a bit!

annnywaaaaayyyy

had the pet cock tube on the tank moved, fits great now! I still dont have mount setup for the rear of the tank, have to figure that out and ill be lifting the rear just a touch to get some clearance underneath.

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/0981D8C8-8A55-428A-B15B-C61E6546C8E6_zpszq5dnnxi.jpg)

Then i hacked at the harness for a bit, aside from the mess of black ill trim back as i hook everything up, I'm down to seven wires going to the front of the bike :) everything on the right is junk

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/2E25D635-E7A1-4251-8171-5AD2F9908D60_zps0opiffow.jpg)

annnnnd then i took a picture, I just stuck the plate there with some tape. I hate this damn subframe, I should have just cut it off from the start... oh well.

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/D16A7136-BBDC-4E4B-A632-240DDA72880F_zpsq80ucp2f.jpg)


Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: HollywoodMX on Apr 16, 2014, 01:07:43
uhuh... oops hahaha I replaced the floor in my truck so i've been away from the bikes for a bit!

annnywaaaaayyyy

had the pet cock tube on the tank moved, fits great now! I still dont have mount setup for the rear of the tank, have to figure that out and ill be lifting the rear just a touch to get some clearance underneath.

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/0981D8C8-8A55-428A-B15B-C61E6546C8E6_zpszq5dnnxi.jpg)

Then i hacked at the harness for a bit, aside from the mess of black ill trim back as i hook everything up, I'm down to seven wires going to the front of the bike :) everything on the right is junk

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/2E25D635-E7A1-4251-8171-5AD2F9908D60_zps0opiffow.jpg)

annnnnd then i took a picture, I just stuck the plate there with some tape. I hate this damn subframe, I should have just cut it off from the start... oh well.

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/jo-psyko/Honda%20CM%20450/D16A7136-BBDC-4E4B-A632-240DDA72880F_zpsq80ucp2f.jpg)

If you don't like I would cut it now. It wont set you back that far.
Title: Re: '83 CM450e brat tracker
Post by: D4N63R on Apr 16, 2014, 11:29:35
Well I had to order a new throttle tube which puts me off by 3 weeks, so im really thinking of just chopping it off. the problem is to get it to the guy that would be welding the new section on I would have to tear the bike down again and take him just the frame.