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Blood Sweat Tears and Grease => Projects => Trackers => Topic started by: ncologerojr on Dec 23, 2015, 10:19:13

Title: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Dec 23, 2015, 10:19:13
Progress has been slow lately on my xs650 project (http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=63229) due to various other customer projects, and this cb350. So I decided to start a thread for this build as well. I own a small business called Catskill Mtn. Customs Inc. (www.catskillmtncustoms.com) and this build will be sold upon completion. I'm shooting to have it wrapped up sometime in February so updates should come often.

The donor bike is a nice original '72 cb350 with only 3,700 original miles. Unfortunately it is non-running, with very low compression in one cylinder.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/2F8A506D-AFDA-4BCB-84FA-308A96FF3CD3_zpsu2xtliot.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/2F8A506D-AFDA-4BCB-84FA-308A96FF3CD3_zpsu2xtliot.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: BarnBurner on Dec 23, 2015, 12:13:12
Nice base. Bummer about the compression but at least the rest looks rather clean. I've got a CL350 tracker of my own so I'm curious how this comes out. Any specific plans?
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Dec 23, 2015, 12:48:27
Nice base. Bummer about the compression but at least the rest looks rather clean. I've got a CL350 tracker of my own so I'm curious how this comes out. Any specific plans?

 Yeah, it was a very clean bike considering I live in the north east. The good news is that a local guy bought all the original parts to be used for some restoration projects, so they will go to good use.

 I'm going to go with a dual-sport direction with this build. I am lucky enough to live in an area with very diverse scenery and road types. There is everything from gravel back roads to tight city streets, and I plan to build this bike to sort of handle it all. I have a lot of specifics in mind, but too much to type right now lol.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Dec 23, 2015, 12:52:20
 I started by cutting off the original stamped subframe and bent up a new one from 1" .120 wall tube. The shock mounts are made from 1/4" steel plate with stainless posts.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/00000000-0000-0000-0000-0000000001C8_zpsyhcxhlbf.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/00000000-0000-0000-0000-0000000001C8_zpsyhcxhlbf.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/0E345B5B-FAFB-4014-85A4-0B7D270172BB_zpsfkvrkwr0.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/0E345B5B-FAFB-4014-85A4-0B7D270172BB_zpsfkvrkwr0.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/thumb_IMG_8028_1024_zpsbhhfeicm.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/thumb_IMG_8028_1024_zpsbhhfeicm.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Dec 23, 2015, 12:57:45
Once the subframe was all welded up I started on the brushed aluminum battery/electronics tray. It rubber-mounts with stainless hardware.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/00000000-0000-0000-0000-0000000001D0_zpsuj8tjkd7.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/00000000-0000-0000-0000-0000000001D0_zpsuj8tjkd7.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/DSC_0024_zpshuchm9z1.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/DSC_0024_zpshuchm9z1.jpg.html)

Here you can see it mocked up with taller shocks. The new shocks are the same height. I am going to balance the extra shock length by switching to a 19" front wheel with a taller tire to keep the trail numbers close to stock.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/DSC_0022_zps1vjgqbkt.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/DSC_0022_zps1vjgqbkt.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: DohcBikes on Dec 23, 2015, 13:05:11
This'll be one to watch.
Title: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Dec 23, 2015, 13:09:07
I'm going to be making a new tank and rear tail for this build. I would usually prefer to make both from aluminum, but I want this bike to be abused so I'm making the tank from steel for durability. The tail will be aluminum and also serve as a mudguard.

I start by making my shapes from foam, and then make my patterns from there.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/6D7DEBC8-B098-4473-9702-860C6A474F49_zpspz6555gt.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/6D7DEBC8-B098-4473-9702-860C6A474F49_zpspz6555gt.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/A24549D4-18E8-42E1-AFB7-06DFAF8EF3CA_zpsvmweihzv.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/A24549D4-18E8-42E1-AFB7-06DFAF8EF3CA_zpsvmweihzv.jpg.html)

Here is a pattern on the foam buck and a panel being roughed in. This panel only has about 20 minutes of work into it so far.
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/340397B7-B462-48A3-BE08-DD6F04F5067F_zpsvyyb4hww.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/340397B7-B462-48A3-BE08-DD6F04F5067F_zpsvyyb4hww.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Dec 23, 2015, 13:10:10
This'll be one to watch.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: irk miller on Dec 23, 2015, 13:20:29
All in.   Good stuff.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: BarnBurner on Dec 23, 2015, 16:03:00
Well that escalated quickly. Looks great!
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Dec 23, 2015, 17:33:28

All in.   Good stuff.
Well that escalated quickly. Looks great!

Thanks guys.

Here is a bit more work on the tank. The first panel always takes the longest. This one is good for now, but it will probably get a bit more massaging once the other panels are complete and ready to be tacked together.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/F9705E1D-93A2-4550-BFF2-28153A46D84E_zpssu629op3.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/F9705E1D-93A2-4550-BFF2-28153A46D84E_zpssu629op3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: irk miller on Dec 23, 2015, 17:41:04
Just a tip- You can use hot glue to temporarily attach things to the frame for molding or testing.  I noticed your using bar clamps.  Hot glue pops right off of metal, especially when the weather gets colder.  It'll melt the foam, so it's best to apply glue to the frame and let it cool a sec before attaching the foam.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Dec 23, 2015, 17:49:41

Just a tip- You can use hot glue to temporarily attach things to the frame for molding or testing.  I noticed your using bar clamps.  Hot glue pops right off of metal, especially when the weather gets colder.  It'll melt the foam, so it's best to apply glue to the frame and let it cool a sec before attaching the foam.

Thanks, but I already use hot glue lol. You can see the blue gun on the ground in the 2nd foam picture. I actually use it to hold the layers of foam together. I use the bar clamps because I am constantly taking the foam on and off to saw and shape. Re-glueing to the frame every time would be a pain.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: irk miller on Dec 23, 2015, 18:00:34
Thanks, but I already use hot glue lol. You can see the blue gun on the ground in the 2nd foam picture. I actually use it to hold the layers of foam together. I use the bar clamps because I am constantly taking the foam on and off to saw and shape. Re-glueing to the frame every time would be a pain.
To each his own.  I do it the same way. It just pops right off.  Pretty simple.  Hot glue is the worst for laminating the layers together because it's harder than the foam and doesn't carve the same way.  Your forms are pretty simple though, so maybe it doesn't effect your carving much.   I've been using the foam for many years as a sculpture base material, which gets carved, coated and cast. Fine detail can be important.  That foam is pretty versatile stuff. 
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Dec 23, 2015, 18:23:02

To each his own.  I do it the same way. It just pops right off.  Pretty simple.  Hot glue is the worst for laminating the layers together because it's harder than the foam and doesn't carve the same way.  Your forms are pretty simple though, so maybe it doesn't effect your carving much.   I've been using the foam for many years as a sculpture base material, which gets carved, coated and cast. Fine detail can be important.  That foam is pretty versatile stuff.

Yeah, the hot glue doesn't really affect the carving for me. Also I'm making one-off parts so the foam buck doesn't have to be perfect because I tweak it a bit as I go. If I was doing fine details like you I would agree to avoid the hot glue as well. I've heard that liquid nails works well and sets pretty fast, but I haven't had a chance to try it out yet. Spray adhesive eats into this insulation foam and is ineffective also. What do you use to laminate the layers?
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: irk miller on Dec 23, 2015, 18:34:55
3M 78 doesn't degrade the foam.  Liquid nails also gets hard and has a really long set time.  The truth is even the adhesives that melt the foam work as long as the adhesive is applied very very thinly.  In many cases, I've worked with the melting because if applied right away and held together, the two panels melt together.  You've got me pretty excited with using foam as a buck mold.  I was taught with wood and always went that route.  Foam is so much easier to get the form sorted.  Up to this point, I had only used it for fiberglass or various casting media.  The one thing with a wood buck is being able to clamp the piece.  I look forward to see you develop your tank and use the bucks as the form gets more complex. 

Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Dec 24, 2015, 08:35:32

3M 78 doesn't degrade the foam.  Liquid nails also gets hard and has a really long set time.  The truth is even the adhesives that melt the foam work as long as the adhesive is applied very very thinly.  In many cases, I've worked with the melting because if applied right away and held together, the two panels melt together.  You've got me pretty excited with using foam as a buck mold.  I was taught with wood and always went that route.  Foam is so much easier to get the form sorted.  Up to this point, I had only used it for fiberglass or various casting media.  The one thing with a wood buck is being able to clamp the piece.  I look forward to see you develop your tank and use the bucks as the form gets more complex.

Good to know about he adhesive.

I've used wood bucks, but they're a pain and sometimes take longer to make than the part they're used for. They're also tough because you often can't see where your panel is hitting the buck and needs more work. I learned a different method and only use the buck for reference and pattern making. I know my part is right when it fits the buck without clamping. I also only need 1/2 the buck to do both sides.

You do any metal shaping? And pics?
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: DohcBikes on Dec 24, 2015, 10:17:17
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You do any metal shaping? And pics?
He dabbles.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Dec 24, 2015, 10:24:22

He dabbles.

Somehow I missed that thread.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: DohcBikes on Dec 24, 2015, 10:32:07
I added a pic above. Pretty much click any thread in deviants sig to find more:
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Dec 24, 2015, 10:40:42

I added a pic above. Pretty much click any thread in deviants sig to find more:

Got it. I like seeing other people methods. It looks like he uses a planishing hammer, and maybe some hammer on metal techniques. (I'm sure he'll fill us in.) I use an e-wheel and stump shrinking methods. It's cool seeing how the craft is approached by different people.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: irk miller on Dec 24, 2015, 11:08:04
Thanks fellas.  I learned metal as sculptor years ago.  Plus years of rust repair on my old man's rods.  I'm just now applying this to bikes.  All I have is a small hand built e wheel, two logs, a football and a bunch of different shaped hammers.  With side covers and similar forms, I cut out the shape in HDO plywood like so:

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/22/e84596c7b746a5521c8399f7dd5aad70.jpg)

When I built the XL, I had no e wheel so it was hours and hours of planishing to get it smooth.  Admittedly, I've never used a buck on a motorcycle.  I've only used them in sculpture.  I've never made a tank from scratch, so I'm learning something here.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Dec 24, 2015, 13:51:52

Thanks fellas.  I learned metal as sculptor years ago.  Plus years of rust repair on my old man's rods.  I'm just now applying this to bikes.  All I have is a small hand built e wheel, two logs, a football and a bunch of different shaped hammers.  With side covers and similar forms, I cut out the shape in HDO plywood like so:

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/22/e84596c7b746a5521c8399f7dd5aad70.jpg)

When I built the XL, I had no e wheel so it was hours and hours of planishing to get it smooth.  Admittedly, I've never used a buck on a motorcycle.  I've only used them in sculpture.  I've never made a tank from scratch, so I'm learning something here.


Very cool. You're mostly using hammerforms.

If I could offer some advise it would be to learn tuck shrinking with a stump and mallet. If you look at all the tools you're using, they're all stretching the metal and therefore thinning it. With a fuel tank you want to be cautious with how much you thin the material.

You can make parts using 100% stretch techniques, but you'll have to start with thicker material and that makes things more difficult especially with higher crown panels. If you get proficient with shrinking techniques (which thicken the metal) you can combine the two (50/50 shrink/stretch) and end up with a panel the same thickness as the material you started with.

Sorry if you already know all this, maybe someone else will find it helpful.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Dec 24, 2015, 13:53:07
I snuck out this morning to do a little more work on the scrambler tank. This side is almost read to tack together.

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Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: irk miller on Dec 24, 2015, 14:02:35

Sorry if you already know all this, maybe someone else will find it helpful.
I appreciate the advice.  I'll always be learning as far as I'm concerned.  I have been using thicker gauge sheet to compensate, but since that pic I was taught the same as you mention.  The front fender I just made for my CB750 is first piece I did by both shrinking and stretching.  It's also always good to have the lessons reinforced.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Dec 24, 2015, 14:14:12

I appreciate the advice.  I'll always be learning as far as I'm concerned.  I have been using thicker gauge sheet to compensate, but since that pic I was taught the same as you mention.  The front fender I just made for my CB750 is first piece I did by both shrinking and stretching.  It's also always good to have the lessons reinforced.

I agree 100%. Never stop learning.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Dec 27, 2015, 19:50:13
I started working on the other half of the tank today.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/F4898567-288E-44EB-892D-08CDA7E82165_zpsykhm0llk.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/F4898567-288E-44EB-892D-08CDA7E82165_zpsykhm0llk.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Dec 30, 2015, 09:53:20
The holidays have made progress on the tank a little slow, but it's coming together.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/D8AA97C2-7345-4C90-95A9-3AB0903938A9_zpsovshm1bi.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/D8AA97C2-7345-4C90-95A9-3AB0903938A9_zpsovshm1bi.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/8D33B20D-B5A5-4352-824F-27B6E02A0464_zpsk7ohoths.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/8D33B20D-B5A5-4352-824F-27B6E02A0464_zpsk7ohoths.jpg.html)

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Title: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Jan 28, 2016, 22:01:56
Sorry I've been slow with posting updates. I decided to change up the tank design a little. Here is the new tank all tacked up. I should have it welded up tomorrow.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/CFE1D8DC-6C5A-45BB-AF09-5D5F3D654F6A_zpsmqzajomh.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/CFE1D8DC-6C5A-45BB-AF09-5D5F3D654F6A_zpsmqzajomh.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/B44E58DF-5E6F-4D36-AE6D-E196615F8484_zpsxveguvqn.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/B44E58DF-5E6F-4D36-AE6D-E196615F8484_zpsxveguvqn.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/1A847D9A-6CC1-4A5F-A1B8-4075F97CEDCC_zpssdzassid.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/1A847D9A-6CC1-4A5F-A1B8-4075F97CEDCC_zpssdzassid.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Jan 29, 2016, 10:24:31
I'm in.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Jan 30, 2016, 08:14:46
I got the tank welded up yesterday. The first picture is of the welds before and grinding. With good fit up you can make clean flat welds and save yourself a lot of work down the road.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/7A56AEAB-0BA6-44EC-9479-53A6C35031D7_zpsbepft17l.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/7A56AEAB-0BA6-44EC-9479-53A6C35031D7_zpsbepft17l.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/B2FA90F2-9E21-48CF-80F9-57BA88290D95_zpspgpt2o5f.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/B2FA90F2-9E21-48CF-80F9-57BA88290D95_zpspgpt2o5f.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/AF8A492F-EA99-416D-BAC8-6BE85359074C_zpsztzevnha.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/AF8A492F-EA99-416D-BAC8-6BE85359074C_zpsztzevnha.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/41511559-3F57-413E-8C93-58DF345B7D0C_zpsaa2qlpbd.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/41511559-3F57-413E-8C93-58DF345B7D0C_zpsaa2qlpbd.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: datadavid on Jan 30, 2016, 10:18:56
You have great sheet metal skills! That stuff rocks.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Jan 30, 2016, 10:41:56

I'm in.

Thanks
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Jan 30, 2016, 10:43:26

You have great sheet metal skills! That stuff rocks.

Thanks! I still have a lot to learn.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Feb 02, 2016, 20:14:51
I started roughing in the aluminum tail today, I hoping to have it done tomorrow.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/52DC3BEB-A8A2-4C17-A064-E692A4B838F8_zpsaqfxizqc.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/52DC3BEB-A8A2-4C17-A064-E692A4B838F8_zpsaqfxizqc.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/D34F9645-4EF3-4CE9-8A63-A3BDAE38FF17_zpsmmuaxp51.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/D34F9645-4EF3-4CE9-8A63-A3BDAE38FF17_zpsmmuaxp51.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Feb 03, 2016, 20:01:28
I was able to get the tail shaped and welded up today. I'm happy with how it's turning out.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/A7EA9944-D201-4982-9CD8-58DCA2EAC656_zpsbfvjkgiz.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/A7EA9944-D201-4982-9CD8-58DCA2EAC656_zpsbfvjkgiz.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/AA0FE45F-E4D6-499C-8FA8-1866CCD62B96_zps4tx8eymb.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/AA0FE45F-E4D6-499C-8FA8-1866CCD62B96_zps4tx8eymb.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/DDB4EB9C-AC23-4DC4-89D5-1730B687CE66_zpsty5tos9h.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/DDB4EB9C-AC23-4DC4-89D5-1730B687CE66_zpsty5tos9h.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/A905168D-3346-4AF0-BC94-65DD529054C3_zps7jzvyolm.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/A905168D-3346-4AF0-BC94-65DD529054C3_zps7jzvyolm.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/2189B9E5-4EC8-4DB0-A1F1-F8DB04AD6CCE_zpsbswx0kiz.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/2189B9E5-4EC8-4DB0-A1F1-F8DB04AD6CCE_zpsbswx0kiz.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: xb33bsa on Feb 03, 2016, 20:20:45
thats beautiful man carry on
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Feb 03, 2016, 20:57:48

thats beautiful man carry on

Thanks man
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Feb 11, 2016, 19:27:51
Some updated pics of the rear fender. I am still deciding if I am going to paint, polish or a combination of both.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/4048ADAD-9941-4484-8A1B-A436B91129DC_zpsgjknd9ux.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/4048ADAD-9941-4484-8A1B-A436B91129DC_zpsgjknd9ux.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/A105A23A-D052-4415-992F-478C06E40618_zpsll2midsi.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/A105A23A-D052-4415-992F-478C06E40618_zpsll2midsi.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/2ED04947-1A8A-4A7D-867D-6E4D03798070_zpscejgibmt.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/2ED04947-1A8A-4A7D-867D-6E4D03798070_zpscejgibmt.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: B541Niner on Feb 11, 2016, 19:38:20
I dig the shape and that it extends further then what most rears do and not drop off at the axle or before...very nice metal work all around.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: xb33bsa on Feb 12, 2016, 06:22:56
it does look awesome however the cb is a tiny bike and a trackrer needs some room on the seat to slide back on whilst trying to gain traction exiting a turn.srslry its too short needs 3"
 back and the front is in seroius need of lifting
so ya nice work but the proportions are off ,its such a tiny bike,so unlress you are a tiny spinner girl or a 12 yearl, it restricts the rider with a the edge of the seat back hump that far forward
blending it with the seat base would work so you can get a proper rocker in the seat profile
notice this bike here and also it aint drooped down in the front like its getting ready to jump up and lick  you square on the yapper

(http://motorbase.s3.amazonaws.com/pictures/auctionlots/310422744/219440253/fs_7316137-1-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Feb 12, 2016, 08:48:30

it does look awesome however the cb is a tiny bike and a trackrer needs some room on the seat to slide back on whilst trying to gain traction exiting a turn.srslry its too short needs 3"
 back and the front is in seroius need of lifting
so ya nice work but the proportions are off ,its such a tiny bike,so unlress you are a tiny spinner girl or a 12 yearl, it restricts the rider with a the edge of the seat back hump that far forward
blending it with the seat base would work so you can get a proper rocker in the seat profile
notice this bike here and also it aint drooped down in the front like its getting ready to jump up and lick  you square on the yapper


Thanks for the input. I am actually addressing some of the things you've mentioned. I thought I posted about some of my plans, but I may not have yet.

The cb350 is a small bike, which if you're 5'5" like me is fun. If your 5'10"+ not so much. The seat will actually be sloped up to the rear cowl, not flat cafe style. The cowl seems tall in the pics, but once you add a couple inches of seat foam it's only about a 1.5" rise. The cowl is also strong enough that you could slide right onto it if you needed, but when you sit on the bike that is actually pretty far back. Remember the top shock mounts aren't exactly in the same spot as stock. Also the tank is 2-3" shorter than stock, so the seat itself will be about 15". If you overhang the edge of the seat a little you've got another 2-3".

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/50077EA7-7815-4414-8B81-ED2DAF54EF8F_zpszapcesbr.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/50077EA7-7815-4414-8B81-ED2DAF54EF8F_zpszapcesbr.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/EB839E99-8BC1-403C-98C6-1E978F1EC231_zps7g0hkqix.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/EB839E99-8BC1-403C-98C6-1E978F1EC231_zps7g0hkqix.jpg.html)

As far as the height, the rear is already lifted. The shocks currently on it I had laying around from a cb750. The new shocks are 2" taller (I believe, I ordered them months ago). But, the subframe slopes up a bit more than stock so the rear is not getting the full 2" of lift.
The front end is going from the stock 18" rim to a 19x2.15. The larger diameter and wider rim will allow me to run a taller tire, thus bringing up the front end a bit.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/F877CD2E-7A93-4EBB-A8ED-CE2668767D28_zpszhydd9fv.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/F877CD2E-7A93-4EBB-A8ED-CE2668767D28_zpszhydd9fv.jpg.html)

Is this a hardcore flat track bike? No. It's function as a tracker is mellowed a bit for the street, and for aesthetics. It's meant to be a fun little ripper, and I think it will be.

I do plan to build myself a real vintage flat tracker, but I think I'll start with something more suitable. Perhaps a sr500.



Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Feb 12, 2016, 09:24:50

I dig the shape and that it extends further then what most rears do and not drop off at the axle or before...very nice metal work all around.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: Nj732port on Feb 12, 2016, 11:23:45
Thanks for the input. I am actually addressing some of the things you've mentioned. I thought I posted about some of my plans, but I may not have yet.

The cb350 is a small bike, which if you're 5'5" like me is fun. If your 5'10"+ not so much. The seat will actually be sloped up to the rear cowl, not flat cafe style. The cowl seems tall in the pics, but once you add a couple inches of seat foam it's only about a 1.5" rise. The cowl is also strong enough that you could slide right onto it if you needed, but when you sit on the bike that is actually pretty far back. Remember the top shock mounts aren't exactly in the same spot as stock. Also the tank is 2-3" shorter than stock, so the seat itself will be about 15". If you overhang the edge of the seat a little you've got another 2-3".

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/50077EA7-7815-4414-8B81-ED2DAF54EF8F_zpszapcesbr.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/50077EA7-7815-4414-8B81-ED2DAF54EF8F_zpszapcesbr.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/EB839E99-8BC1-403C-98C6-1E978F1EC231_zps7g0hkqix.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/EB839E99-8BC1-403C-98C6-1E978F1EC231_zps7g0hkqix.jpg.html)

As far as the height, the rear is already lifted. The shocks currently on it I had laying around from a cb750. The new shocks are 2" taller (I believe, I ordered them months ago). But, the subframe slopes up a bit more than stock so the rear is not getting the full 2" of lift.
The front end is going from the stock 18" rim to a 19x2.15. The larger diameter and wider rim will allow me to run a taller tire, thus bringing up the front end a bit.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/F877CD2E-7A93-4EBB-A8ED-CE2668767D28_zpszhydd9fv.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/F877CD2E-7A93-4EBB-A8ED-CE2668767D28_zpszhydd9fv.jpg.html)

Is this a hardcore flat track bike? No. It's function as a tracker is mellowed a bit for the street, and for aesthetics. It's meant to be a fun little ripper, and I think it will be.

I do plan to build myself a real vintage flat tracker, but I think I'll start with something more suitable. Perhaps a sr500.


hurry up and finish so you can move on to an sr! your skills are awesome ;D
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Feb 12, 2016, 15:59:32



Thanks! I'm always on the lookout for an sr500, flat track season is coming soon!
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Feb 19, 2016, 17:04:17
 I've been busy working on rubber mounts for the tank and tailI and figuring parts to get ordered. All very important, but boring so I thought I would post up some of the progress pics I have in my phone.
 This shows the roughing in of the tail halves, and the weld after planishing. No grinding.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/ABA7CEBA-F268-4B83-827D-919E7826F018_zpsu7z7tqzo.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/ABA7CEBA-F268-4B83-827D-919E7826F018_zpsu7z7tqzo.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/377409DC-67F4-4E2A-8BF5-5DE7FAB4F2D2_zpss7b8nsll.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/377409DC-67F4-4E2A-8BF5-5DE7FAB4F2D2_zpss7b8nsll.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/62D60413-7D54-46FC-A82C-C04903E4C3D8_zpsigvyikik.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/62D60413-7D54-46FC-A82C-C04903E4C3D8_zpsigvyikik.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/8C1C9C81-F5A1-48CB-8F2D-C98770EFAC54_zpsbnmu87sq.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/8C1C9C81-F5A1-48CB-8F2D-C98770EFAC54_zpsbnmu87sq.jpg.html)

Here is the tank tunnel coming together.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/2BD4C023-5098-4827-9FBA-22720E1BFA1F_zpsh1yqrshb.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/2BD4C023-5098-4827-9FBA-22720E1BFA1F_zpsh1yqrshb.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/C017323F-08BC-4AB8-868B-FDBA58B25C8C_zpsdgryyxy9.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/C017323F-08BC-4AB8-868B-FDBA58B25C8C_zpsdgryyxy9.jpg.html)


(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/C90414FA-375B-4F44-A65D-BEB2F09DDC37_zpsrrekbnf2.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/C90414FA-375B-4F44-A65D-BEB2F09DDC37_zpsrrekbnf2.jpg.html)

And just a couple random pictures.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/3D115376-6200-4610-94DB-2A2CA99E8F6F_zpsj2ao7fk9.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/3D115376-6200-4610-94DB-2A2CA99E8F6F_zpsj2ao7fk9.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/BBB15B05-E679-4855-B4D6-033C5A70967E_zps8ngaaeq0.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/BBB15B05-E679-4855-B4D6-033C5A70967E_zps8ngaaeq0.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/02E210BC-A2CE-440F-8608-4DA73EC65942_zpsqdhxfjaa.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/02E210BC-A2CE-440F-8608-4DA73EC65942_zpsqdhxfjaa.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: B541Niner on Feb 19, 2016, 19:28:25
Cool transformation from a dinged up piece of metal to the end result.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Feb 19, 2016, 20:01:28

Cool transformation from a dinged up piece of metal to the end result.

Thanks. When metal shaping it always looks like your destroying the panel in the beginning. The dings are where I'm putting stretch into the panel. If you look close you can see slight ripples also, that's where I hammered down tucks to shrink the metal. Stretch and shrink the right spots and you can make any shape.
Title: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Feb 20, 2016, 08:39:53
I got the tail mounted up, along with a small plate that shields the battery box from tire spray.
  Also a pic showing a weld along the inside of the rear fender. When tig welding thin aluminum, always try to weld both sides of stressed joints whenever possible to avoid cracking.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/D95C5711-0B37-46CB-8168-937AB5D23C70_zpshxirgp5g.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/D95C5711-0B37-46CB-8168-937AB5D23C70_zpshxirgp5g.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/3235807F-E5A0-4C9C-94ED-1986D536A74E_zpsgnsfw0dc.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/3235807F-E5A0-4C9C-94ED-1986D536A74E_zpsgnsfw0dc.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/27179821-7D12-425D-A682-E89B75F20EC1_zpswpunyc5b.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/27179821-7D12-425D-A682-E89B75F20EC1_zpswpunyc5b.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/CAA0916D-FA8F-4414-8791-619347F5548B_zpsqjrnyktp.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/CAA0916D-FA8F-4414-8791-619347F5548B_zpsqjrnyktp.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: jag767 on Feb 22, 2016, 05:56:14
Damn that's nice fab work!
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: el barto on Feb 22, 2016, 07:57:46
Those welds are a thing of beauty. Subscribed!
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Feb 22, 2016, 10:38:14

Damn that's nice fab work!
Those welds are a thing of beauty. Subscribed!

Thanks guys. I am always trying to improve, and hearing from other enthusiasts who appreciate my efforts is the best motivation.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Feb 22, 2016, 21:14:02
The fuel cap is done and the tunnel in. Tomorrow morning I'll weld in the petcock bungs and it will be ready for pressure testing.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/11D04E66-946D-4C76-9297-3CE8C785D1E3_zpsaxahfxft.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/11D04E66-946D-4C76-9297-3CE8C785D1E3_zpsaxahfxft.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/BB603ED3-8F2D-4E3E-A6BA-AFE2E22388E7_zpsbo2kknat.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/BB603ED3-8F2D-4E3E-A6BA-AFE2E22388E7_zpsbo2kknat.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Feb 23, 2016, 17:51:14
Ready for pressure testing.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/C7C88CE6-4D99-4E2E-8EC9-C65EADC35DE8_zps9upn8up7.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/C7C88CE6-4D99-4E2E-8EC9-C65EADC35DE8_zps9upn8up7.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: Nj732port on Feb 23, 2016, 23:50:17
Nice bungs ;)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: Zoltan on Feb 24, 2016, 03:15:33
sick fab work
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Feb 24, 2016, 12:45:26
Front mounts are made and welded in. Pressure tested at 8-10psi without a single leak top or bottom, which even shocked myself.

Tank is done!

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/3FC82673-0462-4F36-B965-9D284022DF9D_zpsdlnjhbxl.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/3FC82673-0462-4F36-B965-9D284022DF9D_zpsdlnjhbxl.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/33528961-993C-4FFA-B2EA-CCAD08CB2B6A_zpscn5pdzix.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/33528961-993C-4FFA-B2EA-CCAD08CB2B6A_zpscn5pdzix.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/0AEE4A35-21AF-492F-80FB-DC9401DB760C_zps2dhs6eip.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/0AEE4A35-21AF-492F-80FB-DC9401DB760C_zps2dhs6eip.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Feb 24, 2016, 13:34:36

Nice bungs ;)

Quit staring at my bungs!
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Feb 24, 2016, 13:35:26

sick fab work

Thanks man.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Feb 24, 2016, 19:15:47
With the tank pressure tested I went on to finish up all the mounting brackets. This bike is being built to take the back roads, and I am mounting everything with that in mind. The tank is supported in front by the stock rubber pucks, rubber mounts near the petcock on each side and a padded cross member along the rear of the tunnel. You can also see in the pictures that I cut and welded the backbone seam. I have read that racers back in the day would weld the seams to increase strength and rigidity, I just needed the clearance.



(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/DSC_0127_zpsvxmxhc2c.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/DSC_0127_zpsvxmxhc2c.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/DSC_0103%202_zps0i5e0zun.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/DSC_0103%202_zps0i5e0zun.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/DSC_0134_zps1oy0heky.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/DSC_0134_zps1oy0heky.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/DSC_0119_zpslosdjeg6.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/DSC_0119_zpslosdjeg6.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 02, 2016, 20:31:07
Some more updates.

The panel that sits directly above the battery tray is also going to secure the upholstered seat, so it needed to release easily. I decided to use a simple pressure mount. I turned down a m10 bolt on the lathe to make the adjustable front pin. I then bent the rear of the panel to make it apply pressure to a cross support at the rear of the electronics tray. It actually latches very securely.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/CBE140DF-2CCB-4849-8543-8A0D5F50FFD1_zps5sfgcboe.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/CBE140DF-2CCB-4849-8543-8A0D5F50FFD1_zps5sfgcboe.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/9B6CBD7B-FD55-4615-986E-8D33B34BD839_zpsbhok4xjs.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/9B6CBD7B-FD55-4615-986E-8D33B34BD839_zpsbhok4xjs.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/DSC_0107_zpskjenplgc.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/DSC_0107_zpskjenplgc.jpg.html)

I laced up the new wheels and mounted the dual sport tires. The front rim is now 19x2.15, the rear is the stock 18" and cleaned up like new.

I also started on the front fender. It still needs some work.

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(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/DSC_0106_zpstqo5is5f.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/DSC_0106_zpstqo5is5f.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: VonYinzer on Mar 02, 2016, 20:59:20
Very nice work so far.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 02, 2016, 21:51:45

Very nice work so far.

Thank you
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 10, 2016, 09:10:21
I finished up the front fender mount, and mounted the stubby fender. The mount came out well and is very stiff, but I think the fender is just a little too short. I'll have to make another.

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Since starting the business I've been too busy building bikes for others that I don't have time to build one for myself. I practically missed all of last riding season, but not this year! I picked myself up something to ride when not testing builds.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/F6F7DD5B-7014-40C6-9A42-D55576330D96_zpsjiysl7k0.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/F6F7DD5B-7014-40C6-9A42-D55576330D96_zpsjiysl7k0.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: xb33bsa on Mar 10, 2016, 19:47:09
love the front fender bracket why not show it off more with the fender underneath ? besides the real issues of having it hidden underneath (the bracket)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: Eleganten on Mar 10, 2016, 20:15:55
Looks awesome!


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Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: jpmobius on Mar 10, 2016, 21:16:33
love the front fender bracket why not show it off more with the fender underneath ? besides the real issues of having it hidden underneath (the bracket)

indeed!
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 11, 2016, 06:01:26

love the front fender bracket why not show it off more with the fender underneath ? besides the real issues of having it hidden underneath (the bracket)

Thanks. I thought about that, but I don't think it would fit with the rest of the bike.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 11, 2016, 06:02:08

Looks awesome!


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Thanks!
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 11, 2016, 06:05:07
I made the new fender yesterday. I gave it a low crown to match the styling of the tank. It's about 3" longer and I think fits a little better.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/3B13C41E-913A-4E03-B100-A2643D52A313_zpsepxuu9nb.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/3B13C41E-913A-4E03-B100-A2643D52A313_zpsepxuu9nb.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: BarnBurner on Mar 11, 2016, 09:39:26
Great work as usual. Looks much better with the longer fender. Want to make another for my CL350?  ;D
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: DohcBikes on Mar 11, 2016, 09:48:44
Hmm. Well it doesnt flow with the tire, isnt mounted close enough, is canted over the tire, and isnt long enough to do anything, functionally speaking. The brace is nowhere near as strong as a stock fender and brace. So, no I don't like it. Don't like it at all.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 11, 2016, 10:55:48

Hmm. Well it doesnt flow with the tire, isnt mounted close enough, is canted over the tire, and isnt long enough to do anything, functionally speaking. The brace is nowhere near as strong as a stock fender and brace. So, no I don't like it. Don't like it at all.

That's fine. I like short fenders, and I think the brace is plenty strong compared to stock.

I do like how you posted as tho you were answering a question.

Thanks for following.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: DohcBikes on Mar 11, 2016, 10:59:32
I do like how you posted as tho you were answering a question.
Ahhh fuck, he's on to me :P
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: jag767 on Mar 11, 2016, 11:15:30
I'm not sure I'd put it the way Dohc did, but I do agree it looks a little far away, or that visually something looks a little off. That being said, if your happy with it that's all that matters.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: xb33bsa on Mar 11, 2016, 11:18:14
that tire grooved and those exposed cross tubes are gonna kick rocks bro ,literally back at you and shot peen the sliders
it looks fucking great ,but you hide it ,fak ,show it up top and avoid being pepperd by road debris
thats all
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 11, 2016, 12:00:22

Ahhh fuck, he's on to me :P
I'm not sure I'd put it the way Dohc did, but I do agree it looks a little far away, or that visually something looks a little off. That being said, if your happy with it that's all that matters.
that tire grooved and those exposed cross tubes are gonna kick rocks bro ,literally back at you and shot peen the sliders
it looks fucking great ,but you hide it ,fak ,show it up top and avoid being pepperd by road debris
thats all

Sorry guys. I never mind criticism, you just don't have to be a bit of a dick about it because we're online.

For some reason I like the off balanced look of short fenders. I also like to tuck my headlights tight against the forks to give the whole front end a compact look, just my style.

I actually didn't think about the consequences of debris hitting the supports below the fender. That's a good point. Maybe I'll try out mounting the fender below.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: DohcBikes on Mar 11, 2016, 12:03:31
Sorry guys. I never mind criticism, you just don't have to be a bit of a dick about it because we're online.

I'm worse in person. If we were aquaintances I'd make fun of that fender every single day i saw it. Its as valuable as scrap metal because its way too short. Might as well delete it.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 11, 2016, 12:04:40

I'm worse in person. If we were aquaintances I'd make fun of that fender every single day i saw it

That, I would enjoy.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 14, 2016, 17:58:18
I roughed in one more slightly longer fender to try and mount below my bracket. I think this one might be just right.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/65B865D4-CA48-47CF-B608-B4C38075659F_zpsnrxzqqvt.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/65B865D4-CA48-47CF-B608-B4C38075659F_zpsnrxzqqvt.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: DohcBikes on Mar 14, 2016, 18:12:32
yahtzee
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: xb33bsa on Mar 14, 2016, 18:22:00
that looks awesome  ;) that is a killer brace you should be selling them
just be sure on final mounting that wioth the forks correctly aligned on secured axle ,so that the fit at the bolt-ons are perfect or shimmed to be so
 if the bolts need to be wrenched in to seat a leg  then washer or space it so it don't tweak the alignment



Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: B541Niner on Mar 14, 2016, 18:31:12
Yep
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: jag767 on Mar 14, 2016, 18:44:07
Now that's awesome.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: BFT Boyle on Mar 15, 2016, 00:46:36
Nice work man. I just might have to start dabbling in fab like that.... Thanks for the inspiration.

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Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 15, 2016, 09:16:38

yahtzee
Yep
Now that's awesome.

Thanks guys. I am happy that I gave this a try.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 15, 2016, 09:26:33

that looks awesome  ;) that is a killer brace you should be selling them
just be sure on final mounting that wioth the forks correctly aligned on secured axle ,so that the fit at the bolt-ons are perfect or shimmed to be so
 if the bolts need to be wrenched in to seat a leg  then washer or space it so it don't tweak the alignment

Thanks. I don't think if I can find the time to produce these for sale, but if there is some demand...

That's a really good point about the spacers. Everything was bent, fitted and tack welded in place with the front wheel/axle bolted in so fit up is spot on. Hopefully everything stays that way


Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 15, 2016, 09:32:24

Nice work man. I just might have to start dabbling in fab like that.... Thanks for the inspiration.

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Thanks man. Go for it.

I think welding and fabrication is always fun.

Metal shaping is very challenging and frustrating in the beginning, but once it starts to click it's immensely rewarding. You can spend a lifetime honing your skills.


Practice, practice, practice.

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Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: NoRiders on Mar 15, 2016, 10:46:15
I roughed in one more slightly longer fender to try and mount below my bracket. I think this one might be just right.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/65B865D4-CA48-47CF-B608-B4C38075659F_zpsnrxzqqvt.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/65B865D4-CA48-47CF-B608-B4C38075659F_zpsnrxzqqvt.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/9F5C714C-FF22-41C1-B8CA-AAA543354BAE_zpsbd07a0yc.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/9F5C714C-FF22-41C1-B8CA-AAA543354BAE_zpsbd07a0yc.jpg.html)

Very nice guard and mounts, exactly the style I'm going for, except I'll need to have a button hear allen bolt coming from underneath with a domehead nut as clearance may be an issue. Have to make them as nothing exists that will do afaik? I'll be taking the ally guard a little bit longer on the rear end to offer more engine/me protection though - Summers in the UK are wet wet wet!!
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: BFT Boyle on Mar 15, 2016, 11:24:52
Thanks man. Go for it.

I think welding and fabrication is always fun.

Metal shaping is very challenging and frustrating in the beginning, but once it starts to click it's immensely rewarding. You can spend a lifetime honing your skills.


Practice, practice, practice.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/C890FE9C-7409-4791-B1F7-2DB165C34D53_zpsjvjyqmln.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/C890FE9C-7409-4791-B1F7-2DB165C34D53_zpsjvjyqmln.jpg.html)
I'll definitely have to give it a shot. What gauge is the sheet metal you are working with? ~14g ?

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Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 15, 2016, 13:33:59

Very nice guard and mounts, exactly the style I'm going for, except I'll need to have a button hear allen bolt coming from underneath with a domehead nut as clearance may be an issue. Have to make them as nothing exists that will do afaik? I'll be taking the ally guard a little bit longer on the rear end to offer more engine/me protection though - Summers in the UK are wet wet wet!!

Thank you. I'll have to use some specialty hardware as well.
Title: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 15, 2016, 13:38:18
I'll definitely have to give it a shot. What gauge is the sheet metal you are working with? ~14g ?

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18ga CR steel or .080/.090" aluminum is plenty for most applications. As you learn more about shaping techniques you'll learn how to select the proper materials depending on the process you'll be using to achieve the shape.

Everything on my build is shaped with a mallet, stump, sandbag, hammer & dollies and an english wheel. A cheap hf shrinker can also help save some time.

Look thru the old Metalmeet.com forums or the allmetalshaping.com forums to get started. Lots of good info there.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: farmer92 on Mar 15, 2016, 14:30:03
Im in, to see how you follow up that sweet 750 tracker from last year
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: BFT Boyle on Mar 16, 2016, 12:22:20
18ga CR steel or .080/.090" aluminum is plenty for most applications. As you learn more about shaping techniques you'll learn how to select the proper materials depending on the process you'll be using to achieve the shape.

Everything on my build is shaped with a mallet, stump, sandbag, hammer & dollies and an english wheel. A cheap hf shrinker can also help save some time.

Look thru the old Metalmeet.com forums or the allmetalshaping.com forums to get started. Lots of good info there.
Many thanks for the information! I'm going to try and fab a seat together for this little CB125 I'm working on. I don't have much for sending equipment other than an old wire feed w/o gas. Maybe I can rivet the thing together and go for a steam punk look....

Keep up the good work!

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Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 21, 2016, 13:12:12
I decided to make a new mounting bracket for the new fender. The first bracket just didn't match the contour of the new fender.

I decided to use thicker bar stock this time. I am also debating on whether or not to add the center bar like I did on the original or if I should just use the fender as part of the stressed unit.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/6CCAC2FC-B5D4-4EF4-8888-CB25026C7586_zpswzf5jujp.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/6CCAC2FC-B5D4-4EF4-8888-CB25026C7586_zpswzf5jujp.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/63F3905F-8927-4B61-BA69-6644374D7FF5_zpsy5tzoa5u.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/63F3905F-8927-4B61-BA69-6644374D7FF5_zpsy5tzoa5u.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 28, 2016, 16:05:16
Finished up the front fender & mount. The fender isn't sitting perfect right now because it's missing the rubber washers that will go between the mount and fender.

I also made up some simple stainless headlight mounts.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/ED512E86-4704-41A3-875F-2376DB7D42C0_zpshvzkw1lz.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/ED512E86-4704-41A3-875F-2376DB7D42C0_zpshvzkw1lz.jpg.html)

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Stainless exhaust is up next.

Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: NoRiders on Mar 28, 2016, 19:38:41
Really liking both headlight and guard brackets.....I'll be using the same guard mount but will use tube if I can find some the correct size as it might be easier to bend into shape but still be strong enough.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: scotch_egg on Mar 28, 2016, 23:55:11
Finished up the front fender & mount. The fender isn't sitting perfect right now because it's missing the rubber washers that will go between the mount and fender.

I also made up some simple stainless headlight mounts.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/ED512E86-4704-41A3-875F-2376DB7D42C0_zpshvzkw1lz.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/ED512E86-4704-41A3-875F-2376DB7D42C0_zpshvzkw1lz.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/BEF088CF-B23A-455B-A1BF-87C1C098E5FB_zps1cmljcch.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/BEF088CF-B23A-455B-A1BF-87C1C098E5FB_zps1cmljcch.jpg.html)



Stainless exhaust is up next.

Please make me some of these headlight mounts.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 29, 2016, 17:47:07
Started on the stainless exhaust today.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/EF58588C-99C8-4AEE-A923-462AEA5EF346_zpszqwar6fm.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/EF58588C-99C8-4AEE-A923-462AEA5EF346_zpszqwar6fm.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: farmer92 on Mar 29, 2016, 18:02:01
Lookin' good man
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: Bootsey on Mar 29, 2016, 21:28:00
Thoroughly enjoying following your build, thats some stellar fabrication.
Any thoughts/plans for the finished colour scheme, would almost be a shame to hide all that metalwork?
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 29, 2016, 22:24:55
Really liking both headlight and guard brackets.....I'll be using the same guard mount but will use tube if I can find some the correct size as it might be easier to bend into shape but still be strong enough.

Thanks. Tube might bend easier, but it will want to collapse during bending so it may be tricky...
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 29, 2016, 22:26:25
Please make me some of these headlight mounts.

I guess you like them. If you're serious I'll figure out a price
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 29, 2016, 22:27:35
Lookin' good man


Thanks! I'm in the home-stretch now.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 29, 2016, 22:32:18
Thoroughly enjoying following your build, thats some stellar fabrication.
Any thoughts/plans for the finished colour scheme, would almost be a shame to hide all that metalwork?

Thanks a lot man.

I have some plans for the paint scheme, it's a little difficult to describe. Maybe I'll get around to posing a concept sketch.

It always bums me out when I think about having to paint over all my work. Sometimes I just want to spray clear over the raw metal. But, in the end I think the paint ends up enhancing my work instead of hiding it.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 30, 2016, 11:00:35
Sometimes in the morning, with a clear mind, I look at my work from the day before and it's just not up to par. So today I'm starting over. At least I can cut it up and salvage some bends.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/7C46FC0C-5C61-4E26-8D3E-819D6F3523E6_zpsmgrycnql.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/7C46FC0C-5C61-4E26-8D3E-819D6F3523E6_zpsmgrycnql.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: irk miller on Mar 30, 2016, 11:19:31
Sometimes in the morning, with a clear mind, I look at my work from the day before and it's just not up to par.

I've been teaching sculpture for 12 years now.  This is the artistic process.  It's hard to teach students to sit with their work a little while before making final decisions- in your case, tacking over complete welds.  Inevitably, you will always find faults, even 6 months from now. 
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 30, 2016, 11:32:13
I've been teaching sculpture for 12 years now.  This is the artistic process.  It's hard to teach students to sit with their work a little while before making final decisions- in your case, tacking over complete welds.  Inevitably, you will always find faults, even 6 months from now.


I couldn't agree more. I'm not a stranger to this process.

Ultimately it came down to form vs function. Aesthetically the high pipes would have turned out beautiful. But, it just didn't work for me function wise.

First off the exhaust would have been too short, and the left side pipe would have been way longer than the right side. Also when standing at a stop light or really leaning into a left hand turn the exhaust would be right into the riders leg. A heat shield would have worked, but it still would have been uncomfortable and annoying.

I think a 2-1 system taking the traditional low route will work much better. I guess all the old flat trackers had it right all along
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 30, 2016, 11:44:20
Also, if I tried to tuck the high pipes in further and out of the way I'd be throwing a lot of heat at the right carburetor bowel....
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: irk miller on Mar 30, 2016, 13:19:07
Typical application for a high pipe with that head style is to run the pipe around the frame and along the opposite side.
XL250 has the carb in the exact location...

(http://www.cyclechaos.com/images/2/20/1972-Honda-XL250K0-Silver-9938-0.jpg)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 30, 2016, 15:16:12
Typical application for a high pipe with that head style is to run the pipe around the frame and along the opposite side.
XL250 has the carb in the exact location...

(http://www.cyclechaos.com/images/2/20/1972-Honda-XL250K0-Silver-9938-0.jpg)

Yep, I've owned a cl350 with high scrambler pipes.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: scotch_egg on Mar 30, 2016, 18:56:24
I guess you like them. If you're serious I'll figure out a price

I've just realised they won't work with clipons. If I decide to go back to drag bars I will on you for a quote.

Progress to the build

Dave
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: VonYinzer on Mar 30, 2016, 19:28:44
Have you ever seen CL pipes?
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 30, 2016, 19:38:03
Have you ever seen CL pipes?


Yep. Like I said above, I owned a cl350.

Stock cl pipes run along the left side and have huge heat shields. I didn't want to have to cover up all of my stainless work with heat shields. I always felt like my leg was resting against the high-pipes when stopped or making hard right hand turns. I wanted to try and tuck the exhaust in tighter than stock with the space from removing the air boxes. The problem is that the exhaust would be very close to the carburetor bowels, and could cause problems on hot days.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: VonYinzer on Mar 30, 2016, 19:49:55
Gotcha. Sorry I missed the earlier CL talk... Little out of it today. Lol...

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Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 30, 2016, 19:53:54
Gotcha. Sorry I missed the earlier CL talk... Little out of it today. Lol...

Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk


No problem man. You're probably not the only one who missed it, and I also wasn't very clear earlier about my heat/heat shield issues.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Mar 31, 2016, 05:54:37
The new exhaust design. I don't know yet if the muffler will stay there or come back further with an up kick.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/546EFAF2-BB16-40F3-943A-9E8C5228A334_zpswrwv3seq.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/546EFAF2-BB16-40F3-943A-9E8C5228A334_zpswrwv3seq.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: 45exmayor on Mar 31, 2016, 11:47:01
Your 2 into 1 low mount will look outstanding. Looking forward to seeing finished item.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Apr 01, 2016, 20:57:54
Exhaust progress.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/F6C47016-0A1A-4373-9F17-6C7C356C3DE9_zpsrhpndy2m.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/F6C47016-0A1A-4373-9F17-6C7C356C3DE9_zpsrhpndy2m.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Apr 01, 2016, 20:58:22
Your 2 into 1 low mount will look outstanding. Looking forward to seeing finished item.

Thanks. Should be done soon
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Apr 02, 2016, 09:22:17
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/9D6B9292-5A30-43F3-A351-2582E383AB08_zpsak3ndmsj.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/9D6B9292-5A30-43F3-A351-2582E383AB08_zpsak3ndmsj.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: Nj732port on Apr 02, 2016, 15:35:12
Tucked away very nicely! 8) 8)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Apr 19, 2016, 22:07:06
I had to step away from the CB for a bit to work on some other customer projects, but now I'm back in it for the duration.

I had to change up some things on the exhaust, and make my own slip-collector. It's just about done and I think it's looking pretty sweet.
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/Exhaust%202_zpscpcdt7nz.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/Exhaust%202_zpscpcdt7nz.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/Exhaust%204_zpsupdl2zzy.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/Exhaust%204_zpsupdl2zzy.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/Exhaust%205_zpshdixotzm.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/Exhaust%205_zpshdixotzm.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/Exhaust%206_zpshi3s4ev5.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/Exhaust%206_zpshi3s4ev5.jpg.html)

I also pulled the tins and dropped them off at the painter. Here is a little concept sketch I did while coming up with the color scheme.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/425B30A8-2407-4BA4-AA61-E2B47A5CFD0F_zps22f1ctec.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/425B30A8-2407-4BA4-AA61-E2B47A5CFD0F_zps22f1ctec.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/Pre%20Paint_zpsdnkej9lk.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/Pre%20Paint_zpsdnkej9lk.jpg.html)
Title: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Apr 20, 2016, 08:36:30
I thought that I'd share a few pics from a recent customer project. The customer sent me the headlamp, tach, switch and triple clamps. He asked that I make him a mount for everything with a half fairing, and a "mechanical" look. He wanted it mounted to the triple camp. I did a quick concept sketch for him to approve and then made it from aluminum. Not really my style, but I think it came out pretty cool.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/B34C4124-7095-4C41-9877-64992BDBFC55_zpsmgu4pejv.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/B34C4124-7095-4C41-9877-64992BDBFC55_zpsmgu4pejv.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/Headlight%2011_zpsx0q9pwkn.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/Headlight%2011_zpsx0q9pwkn.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/Headlight%2012_zpsydjpttzy.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/Headlight%2012_zpsydjpttzy.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/Headlight%209_zpstjlkoirl.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/Headlight%209_zpstjlkoirl.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/Headlight%2013_zpsr2ki7amz.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/Headlight%2013_zpsr2ki7amz.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/Headlight%208_zps5ysaniyk.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/Headlight%208_zps5ysaniyk.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: Zweihammer on Apr 20, 2016, 08:48:31
Wicked work on the nacelle! Normally, I am not a fan of the projector beam headlights like those, but your design brings it all together beautifully.

Your slip on looks sweet as well. Did you get the springs with the clips as well?
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: VonYinzer on Apr 20, 2016, 08:51:09
That headlight is beyond cool.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: Kamn on Apr 20, 2016, 09:02:11
Beautiful work
I enjoy seeing what you have come up with and make
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Apr 20, 2016, 09:06:21
Wicked work on the nacelle! Normally, I am not a fan of the projector beam headlights like those, but your design brings it all together beautifully.

Your slip on looks sweet as well. Did you get the springs with the clips as well?

Thanks. I'm not sure I understand your question. Are you asking if I have springs for the muffler also? Currently I don't. I'm considering welding the muffler the collector  because I don't want too many slip joints in such a small section.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Apr 20, 2016, 09:06:46
That headlight is beyond cool.
Beautiful work
I enjoy seeing what you have come up with and make

Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: jag767 on Apr 22, 2016, 11:45:25
That headlight went to a friend of mine. Really excellent workmanship.  I don't know if you're on instagram or not, but if you are make sure to stop by his posts and mention it's your work, since he failed to.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Apr 22, 2016, 12:11:15
That headlight went to a friend of mine. Really excellent workmanship.  I don't know if you're on instagram or not, but if you are make sure to stop by his posts and mention it's your work, since he failed to.


Thanks man. And thanks for the heads up. I am on Instagram. What's his username?
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: jag767 on Apr 22, 2016, 14:38:09

Thanks man. And thanks for the heads up. I am on Instagram. What's his username?

Pmed
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Apr 28, 2016, 06:43:08
A quick update.
With the exhaust finished, the bike is torn down for paint and polishing. The tins are at the painters, and everything else gets bead blasted in house and painted. I was going to powder coat the frame and components, but the stamped frame made me nervous. With all its little nooks I worry that the powder coater will miss some tiny spots and it will rust shortly down the road. Once powder coat starts rusting it's hard to fix. I always feel that paint can be sanded and touched up easily.
The engine was showing low compression in the left cylinder, so the top end was torn down. The bike only had 3,000 miles and the internals show it. Everything looks great, except for a sticky ring. It doesn't look like the engine was ran at all with the ring like that, as there is no carbon in the grooves. It probably just sat for years with a little old fuel in the cylinder.


(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/328A1900-139A-42EC-A1C5-6168223D3144_zpsewxt49nz.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/328A1900-139A-42EC-A1C5-6168223D3144_zpsewxt49nz.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/72E58148-C045-4933-AB18-BD411CE1F9EB_zpssq8fmbwa.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/72E58148-C045-4933-AB18-BD411CE1F9EB_zpssq8fmbwa.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/56027412-E1B2-427A-BDFB-AAA4FF025115_zpsck5zr1uc.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/56027412-E1B2-427A-BDFB-AAA4FF025115_zpsck5zr1uc.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/th_F1492E03-A7E5-476A-9193-A5FA5803F12C_zpsyuuptvtn.jpg) (http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/F1492E03-A7E5-476A-9193-A5FA5803F12C_zpsyuuptvtn.mp4)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on May 01, 2016, 20:41:52
I got the engine back together and have begun final assembly. This is always the best part.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/DSC_0119_zps2fcmkiar.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/DSC_0119_zps2fcmkiar.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on May 04, 2016, 22:36:03
Some more progress. Not the final shocks.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/269CD5F4-62FF-4CDC-92A5-D94F064BBEA6_zpsoyhwg6cd.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/269CD5F4-62FF-4CDC-92A5-D94F064BBEA6_zpsoyhwg6cd.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/F92689EC-7BE8-43AB-80C4-BF4709DB7D33_zpsf6pjhhk4.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/F92689EC-7BE8-43AB-80C4-BF4709DB7D33_zpsf6pjhhk4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on May 05, 2016, 07:21:43
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/ACF58187-F4EE-4F02-A567-5F1C8576DDD5_zpss4rpmzqu.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/ACF58187-F4EE-4F02-A567-5F1C8576DDD5_zpss4rpmzqu.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on May 06, 2016, 07:59:53
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/AD94C399-8EE9-4C72-87B0-C5BE712ED2F4_zps6vfssq4f.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/AD94C399-8EE9-4C72-87B0-C5BE712ED2F4_zps6vfssq4f.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/418A750F-C877-4303-AEA6-09A0EAEAFDEC_zpsbvxgxedk.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/418A750F-C877-4303-AEA6-09A0EAEAFDEC_zpsbvxgxedk.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: VonYinzer on May 06, 2016, 13:22:21
Very clean. A++
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on May 06, 2016, 14:19:07
Very clean. A++


Thanks
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: advCo on May 06, 2016, 16:07:58
Great read. I tried my hand at metal shaping recently, definitely one of those things that you can't pick up right away and get it done. Takes so much patience and feel to know how the metal will move under pressure. Really respect the fab work you've done here. And that steampunk headlight is badass.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on May 06, 2016, 16:26:53
Great read. I tried my hand at metal shaping recently, definitely one of those things that you can't pick up right away and get it done. Takes so much patience and feel to know how the metal will move under pressure. Really respect the fab work you've done here. And that steampunk headlight is badass.

Thank you, it's always cool to hear that someone appreciates your hard work.

 Metal shaping is something that I've been working on little by little for years. I would practice a technique here and there, and then I finally got to go work with master which helped bring it all together. A lot of people see a master shaper on tv and think that it's easy, because a master makes it look easy. It requires a serious understanding of the craft to get good results. I'll be learning for the rest of my life haha.

If you ever have any questions or anything I could help you with don't hesitate to ask.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: advCo on May 06, 2016, 16:33:17
Awesome. I have dabbled a bit, my first experience was forming knee dents on the 360, which most certainly didn't go as planned but turned out Ok. I took a metalsmithing class the last couple of months for fun, and learned quite a bit about it from a sculptural standpoint.

I tend to rely mostly on fiberglass for complex shapes and primitive cut and weld for everything else, but maybe when I get a chance to do another full build with some fabrication I will have to pick your brain.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on May 06, 2016, 16:43:56
I tend to rely mostly on fiberglass for complex shapes and primitive cut and weld for everything else, but maybe when I get a chance to do another full build with some fabrication I will have to pick your brain.

  Almost all of my motivation for learning metal shaping comes directly from my hatred of working with fiberglass! haha
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: advCo on May 06, 2016, 21:29:25
Hah! I'm quite the opposite. Are you out of New England? Upstate NY?
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on May 06, 2016, 21:33:11
Hah! I'm quite the opposite. Are you out of New England? Upstate NY?

 Yes, upstate. The Hudson Valley.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: jag767 on May 06, 2016, 22:15:13
Looking great Nick. Can't wait to see it done.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on May 07, 2016, 07:36:08
Looking great Nick. Can't wait to see it done.


Thanks man!
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on May 09, 2016, 20:50:46
Moving along on assembly. I'll be making the wire harness next. I also turned out a starter delete plug on the lathe.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/C383BF98-4C8F-4ECC-9744-EA58F6FB49B6_zpstdifalru.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/C383BF98-4C8F-4ECC-9744-EA58F6FB49B6_zpstdifalru.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/5369A882-8072-47EC-B118-8AE9DB4DEFC6_zpspn4bwqc5.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/5369A882-8072-47EC-B118-8AE9DB4DEFC6_zpspn4bwqc5.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/A732E529-80F5-4BE2-BEE4-64771F5BC591_zps39en7ycu.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/A732E529-80F5-4BE2-BEE4-64771F5BC591_zps39en7ycu.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/3C5A0FE7-D442-4EA1-B4B8-68B525DBA98E_zpsjra74gcz.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/3C5A0FE7-D442-4EA1-B4B8-68B525DBA98E_zpsjra74gcz.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/FDC2CEE6-1258-46E2-BFFF-5A459DE38A97_zps2kvvs6rz.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/FDC2CEE6-1258-46E2-BFFF-5A459DE38A97_zps2kvvs6rz.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on May 12, 2016, 22:00:26
I started on the wiring, and mounted up the speedo and front signals. I also got the hand controls mounted and even fired the bike up for a few minutes just to hear it run for the first time in almost 20 years!

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/22B679F8-14FA-4B87-8968-28E6945324F0_zps4ttfa3jz.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/22B679F8-14FA-4B87-8968-28E6945324F0_zps4ttfa3jz.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/F5802C10-F872-43AC-9455-4F0ECD176F51_zpspnygmjcs.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/F5802C10-F872-43AC-9455-4F0ECD176F51_zpspnygmjcs.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/3FF6B506-5844-469F-AD34-AD346A0AA147_zpsqhcqbzq5.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/3FF6B506-5844-469F-AD34-AD346A0AA147_zpsqhcqbzq5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: xb33bsa on May 12, 2016, 22:15:44
it really looks bitchen, 8) man, you done alot of prime fab and finish work
the pipe fab work as all the stuiff yer buiding looks top shelf
sure hope you can get her tuned its shorter by a long ways than anything that works with the 350
whats the tubing size ? inside diameter that is on the pipes
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on May 13, 2016, 08:15:02
it really looks bitchen, 8) man, you done alot of prime fab and finish work
the pipe fab work as all the stuiff yer buiding looks top shelf
sure hope you can get her tuned its shorter by a long ways than anything that works with the 350
whats the tubing size ? inside diameter that is on the pipes

Thank you!

  The exhaust is short. I originally wanted it to continue back further and kick up at the rear wheel to add some length. But, the customer wanted to keep it short, so short it is. It's wide too, 1.5"OD 16 gauge. I did weld the tapered mounting flanges from the stock exhaust to these pipes, so that might help a bit, maybe.

  To be honest. I have ran cb350/360's with exhaust this short before. You and I know that the bike isn't running to potential, but other people don't notice. In the end, it's the look that most are after. I focus most of my energy on quality fabrication so the bikes hold up to abuse. I just try my best to make a functioning bike while keeping customers happy with the aesthetics.
Title: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on May 30, 2016, 17:22:28
Sorry for the lack of posts recently, I've been getting some work done on some other projects. The cb350 should be completed by next week. Here are a few recent pics for those still following along, and a little teaser of the painted bodywork.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/223816A4-A124-499E-AFAE-75FB26FC1333_zpsiwt2lk18.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/223816A4-A124-499E-AFAE-75FB26FC1333_zpsiwt2lk18.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/38B021B2-9F88-4E6A-9307-B39FBA8789FC_zpsyv3oc6eb.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/38B021B2-9F88-4E6A-9307-B39FBA8789FC_zpsyv3oc6eb.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/0E346BAB-6945-4AD4-9C93-5E38DF008D10_zps6jjdromn.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/0E346BAB-6945-4AD4-9C93-5E38DF008D10_zps6jjdromn.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/5649B1A0-B847-4B3E-BB92-E9C2F2EA3256_zpsszqupy9s.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/5649B1A0-B847-4B3E-BB92-E9C2F2EA3256_zpsszqupy9s.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on May 31, 2016, 11:32:34
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/925FF277-89B3-4BF3-8979-25C90152C820_zpsxg48lvab.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/925FF277-89B3-4BF3-8979-25C90152C820_zpsxg48lvab.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: jag767 on May 31, 2016, 11:34:04
Lookin good Nick. Is the battery tray staying unpainted?
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on May 31, 2016, 12:15:07
Lookin good Nick. Is the battery tray staying unpainted?


Yeah, it's staying raw/brushed to match the hubs and other little accent parts.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on May 31, 2016, 15:24:05
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/1FDE6107-152C-4388-8BAB-C1B4A9D6A526_zpsj3mkskfr.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/1FDE6107-152C-4388-8BAB-C1B4A9D6A526_zpsj3mkskfr.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: B541Niner on May 31, 2016, 18:09:23
Lookin saweeet!
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: advCo on May 31, 2016, 18:44:57
Looks great man. I dig the white accent on the stripe too
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on May 31, 2016, 19:02:17
Lookin saweeet!
Looks great man. I dig the white accent on the stripe too

Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on May 31, 2016, 19:46:19
Working on the final piece of the puzzle right now. The seat goes to the upholstery shop tomorrow.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/4AEC7CC4-8406-4760-84EC-D421C14B489E_zpskzcy1xyg.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/4AEC7CC4-8406-4760-84EC-D421C14B489E_zpskzcy1xyg.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Jun 02, 2016, 16:16:22
 Just waiting on upholstery now. I took it out for it's first ride last night, and it rode flawlessly. Here are a few more pics for now.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/UpstateScrambler%20154_zpss0k2xjhk.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/UpstateScrambler%20154_zpss0k2xjhk.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/UpstateScrambler%20152_zpskti95sld.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/UpstateScrambler%20152_zpskti95sld.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/UpstateScrambler%2069_zpsjiscea5h.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/UpstateScrambler%2069_zpsjiscea5h.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: Northish on Jun 02, 2016, 16:48:02
Looks very nice, and so shiny.  I will be using the same tail light, so was interested in seeing how you mounted it to the hoop.  A great looking bike!
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: jag767 on Jun 02, 2016, 17:29:49
Looking great! What ducati you have in there?
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: xb33bsa on Jun 02, 2016, 21:15:21
it really does look fantastic
but me being an asshole ill point out that it needs something like side panels to keep the air filters from getting knocked off or torn up by a foot getting slung over the bike
'it will happen,eventually and or  could even pull the carb right out of the intake spigot flange
the carbs  you have a support to them or they hanging on their own ?
stock setup the carbs get lots of help from the connection to the airbox ,they need something to support them
the front fender and bracket are very nearly perfection i just dont why it is bobbed so short
specially in the front it upsets the perfection in the bracket you made
i hope the seat padding is almost solid and unmovable at the same height as those brass nuts stick straight up the ass,otherwsise it will be a very unpleasant suprise for the rider
the seat would be perfect if it was same height as the hump even a bit higher with a padded bolster just up and over front top edge of the hump
carry on
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Jun 02, 2016, 21:21:46
Looks very nice, and so shiny.  I will be using the same tail light, so was interested in seeing how you mounted it to the hoop.  A great looking bike!

Thanks! I made a separate aluminum bracket for the light. A lot of people stick it straight to the hoop, but that just doesn't seem like the best route in my opinion.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Jun 02, 2016, 21:23:33
Looking great! What ducati you have in there?

Thanks man. That's my Monster 796abs. I just put on a new rear tire, and picked up a screw within a week!!
Title: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Jun 02, 2016, 21:31:02
it really does look fantastic
but me being an asshole ill point out that it needs something like side panels to keep the air filters from getting knocked off or torn up by a foot getting slung over the bike
'it will happen,eventually and or  could even pull the carb right out of the intake spigot flange
the carbs  you have a support to them or they hanging on their own ?
stock setup the carbs get lots of help from the connection to the airbox ,they need something to support them
the front fender and bracket are very nearly perfection i just dont why it is bobbed so short
specially in the front it upsets the perfection in the bracket you made
i hope the seat padding is almost solid and unmovable at the same height as those brass nuts stick straight up the ass,otherwsise it will be a very unpleasant suprise for the rider
the seat would be perfect if it was same height as the hump even a bit higher with a padded bolster just up and over front top edge of the hump
carry on

Thanks!

  I'm not worried about the carbs. It would be hard to snag a foot on the filters, and the new boots hold very snug. I've never had a problem.

  The fender is bobbed short because that's just how I like it.

 The seat has very dense foam up past the rivet-nuts, you can't feel them.

 Once the seat is wrapped the rear of the seat should be level with the rear cowl, or slightly above.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/B913F996-2DEF-4625-9976-9020A469238A_zpssuy1bqxd.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/B913F996-2DEF-4625-9976-9020A469238A_zpssuy1bqxd.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: jag767 on Jun 02, 2016, 21:45:32
Nick what shocks are those?
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: xb33bsa on Jun 02, 2016, 22:12:51
Thanks!

  I'm not worried about the carbs. It would be hard to snag a foot on the filters, and the new boots hold very snug. I've never had a problem.

  The fender is bobbed short because that's just how I like it.

 The seat has very dense foam up past the rivet-nuts, you can't feel them.

 Once the seat is wrapped the rear of the seat should be level with the rear cowl, or slightly above.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/B913F996-2DEF-4625-9976-9020A469238A_zpssuy1bqxd.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/B913F996-2DEF-4625-9976-9020A469238A_zpssuy1bqxd.jpg.html)



oooooo that is sugar coated titty good
that is one of the best looking 350's i have ever seen, except it is unfished looking
it just is screaming out for some number plates or side panels the open look is below your capabilities, way below
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Jun 02, 2016, 23:31:57
oooooo that is sugar coated titty good
that is one of the best looking 350's i have ever seen, except it is unfished looking
it just is screaming out for some number plates or side panels the open look is below your capabilities, way below

Well thank you. I actually had an idea for some nice curved panels in that space, but the customer likes the open look. He pretty much gave me free reign on everything but that, so I can't complain.

When I go back to working on my xs650 it will be built just the way I want it, which is with plenty of hand-shaped aluminum.

Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Jun 02, 2016, 23:37:52
Nick what shocks are those?

They are cheaper units, I forget the manufacturer. I usually build with cheaper shocks and bolt-on's because I feel like I can give my customer better value by using their money for the one-off parts. They can always upgrade the shocks in the future.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: Nj732port on Jun 03, 2016, 13:10:01
Bike looks great, where is that foam from? how is tire spray gonna spray off the carbs? that light mounting might get stolen by a few people  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Jun 04, 2016, 09:08:19
Bike looks great, where is that foam from? how is tire spray gonna spray off the carbs? that light mounting might get stolen by a few people  ::) ;D

Thanks. The foam is a hd closed cell polyethylene ordered from McMaster.

Most of the heavy tire spray should hit the rear of the battery box and under the tail, but obviously some water will hit the carbs. The oiled uni foam filters do a good job of wicking the water. It's not a perfect set-up for heavy rain, but some sacrifices had to be made for aesthetics.

I'm sure they will, but I would prefer that people order a set from me.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Jun 06, 2016, 14:28:23
Done! Better pics coming soon!

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/1CFBD56C-5D0D-4FEE-81F1-84A36D119AC7_zpsuxq0p4ae.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/1CFBD56C-5D0D-4FEE-81F1-84A36D119AC7_zpsuxq0p4ae.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/26D07A16-4501-456C-84DF-70669F4E9CA4_zpskkebgz9g.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/26D07A16-4501-456C-84DF-70669F4E9CA4_zpskkebgz9g.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: jag767 on Jun 06, 2016, 15:03:50
Looks great, I hope to see it on Bike Exif soon!
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Jun 06, 2016, 15:14:20
Looks great, I hope to see it on Bike Exif soon!

Thanks man. Me too! Haha
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: jag767 on Jun 06, 2016, 16:08:53
Thanks man. Me too! Haha

Btw I Going to be throwing down a challenge for you soon: make a 2014 cb500x fuel pump fit into a 1972 cb450 gas tank, lol!
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: advCo on Jun 07, 2016, 00:03:20
Thanks. The foam is a hd closed cell polyethylene ordered from McMaster.

Can you provide a link for this? I have been looking for some good seat pad foam for a while. Plus, I need to make an order from McMaster anyways.

Looks great, btw. Owner will be happy  ;D
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: NoRiders on Jun 07, 2016, 03:34:41
Love it...seat is hot and the offset stripes set off the tank/bike a treat. Subtle colour and details as well as a great stance add up to one very nice motorcickle....your customer should be very happy.

Jolly well done old chap.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Jun 07, 2016, 08:40:17
Btw I Going to be throwing down a challenge for you soon: make a 2014 cb500x fuel pump fit into a 1972 cb450 gas tank, lol!


Sounds like fun.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Jun 07, 2016, 08:42:32
Can you provide a link for this? I have been looking for some good seat pad foam for a while. Plus, I need to make an order from McMaster anyways.

Looks great, btw. Owner will be happy  ;D

Thanks.

I have had the foam on hand for a while, and honestly don't remember exactly which foams I used. I would order some small samples from McMaster and then pick which is best for your application. Honestly yoga mat is very similar, and cheaper.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Jun 07, 2016, 08:43:14
Love it...seat is hot and the offset stripes set off the tank/bike a treat. Subtle colour and details as well as a great stance add up to one very nice motorcickle....your customer should be very happy.

Jolly well done old chap.

  Thank you, I don't want to let her go!
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: NoRiders on Jun 08, 2016, 06:43:10
  I don't want to let her go!

It would be a shame if there were to be a security lapse...... ;)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: jag767 on Jun 08, 2016, 15:15:36
Nick get some fancy photos, I'm going to nominate you for July BOTM.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Jun 11, 2016, 12:11:54
Nick get some fancy photos, I'm going to nominate you for July BOTM.

Thanks man, I should have some in the next few days.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Jun 12, 2016, 21:16:54
  Professional photos are on their way, but here are a few more of my amateur shots.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/DSC_0126_zpswm7phgb1.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/DSC_0126_zpswm7phgb1.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/DSC_0127_zpse1frluox.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/DSC_0127_zpse1frluox.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/DSC_0152_zpsrujh6133.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/DSC_0152_zpsrujh6133.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/DSC_0154_zpszjynh4w2.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/DSC_0154_zpszjynh4w2.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/DSC_0155_zpsyfdlxz6i.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/DSC_0155_zpsyfdlxz6i.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/DSC_0156_zpssr0knbbk.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/DSC_0156_zpssr0knbbk.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/DSC_0157_zps9pyxakjg.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/DSC_0157_zps9pyxakjg.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/DSC_0159_zpslvr2hvnl.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/DSC_0159_zpslvr2hvnl.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: hillsy on Jun 13, 2016, 00:22:01
9.9 out of 10.


If you could spin those Uni's around a bit so they don't droop I'd have to give you a 10.... ;)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: NoRiders on Jun 13, 2016, 07:16:33
9.9/10 - no scantily clad female draped over it  :(
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: hillsy on Jun 13, 2016, 07:18:34
9.9/10 - no scantily clad female draped over it  :(


You're probably right - but at least this way we get to notice the bike.... 8)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: Alex jb on Jun 13, 2016, 18:24:45
Great bike, fantastic work


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Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Jun 13, 2016, 19:14:00
9.9 out of 10.


If you could spin those Uni's around a bit so they don't droop I'd have to give you a 10.... ;)

Thanks!

 I'll see what I can do about the Uni's.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Jun 13, 2016, 19:18:42
9.9/10 - no scantily clad female draped over it  :(

Unfortunately, I am fresh out of scantily clad women... I understand and accept the .1 deduction.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Jun 13, 2016, 19:19:52
Great bike, fantastic work


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thank you!
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: BarnBurner on Jun 30, 2016, 16:22:09
Kudos on the BikeEXIF feature!
Title: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Jun 30, 2016, 16:31:02
Kudos on the BikeEXIF feature!


Thanks! It's been a long time goal to make it on that site. I still can't believe they accepted it...
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Jul 01, 2016, 12:40:55
For those that might be following and haven't seen it yet, I have been lucky enough to have the cb350 featured on BikeEXIF.com. The worlds largest custom motorcycle website. I am super happy, and hoping that this is just the first of many to make it on to their pages.

http://www.bikeexif.com/catskill-honda-cb350-scrambler

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/ncologerojr/5F30E861-9C04-48FC-B2F8-7FB5885D4294_zpstantl7qu.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/ncologerojr/media/5F30E861-9C04-48FC-B2F8-7FB5885D4294_zpstantl7qu.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: el barto on Jul 09, 2016, 19:09:31
Sick to see this finished! Congrats matey, looks brilliant.
Title: Re: Cb350 Tracker / Scrambler - The UpstateScrambler
Post by: ncologerojr on Jul 09, 2016, 20:50:35
Sick to see this finished! Congrats matey, looks brilliant.

Thanks man!