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Blood Sweat Tears and Grease => Projects => Restorations => Topic started by: trek97 on Jun 21, 2018, 08:38:55

Title: Black Knight..Brake upgrade
Post by: trek97 on Jun 21, 2018, 08:38:55
First things first.
I Downloaded the Workshop manual.


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Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Pearl
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Jun 21, 2018, 08:43:15
I'm in for both a long time and a good time.
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Pearl
Post by: trek97 on Jun 21, 2018, 08:44:43
My first hurdle will be trying to get her to fire up for $0.  Just using stuff I already got.

AND start the process of getting a title for her.  UGH!   :P

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Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Pearl
Post by: trek97 on Jun 21, 2018, 08:47:24
I'm in for both a long time and a good time.

Thanks bro. Please add us to your "bookmark" and check in occasionally.

It may take a while as I cant put everything "on hold" for this bike. 

I got other stuff going on.  So pretty limited on tinkering time.
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Pearl
Post by: irk miller on Jun 21, 2018, 08:52:25
Shiny and chrome.
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Pearl
Post by: pidjones on Jun 21, 2018, 08:56:31
I've bookmarked. We call our GL1800 Black Pearl. "It's just a ship, mate." - Captain Jack Sparrow
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Pearl
Post by: Maritime on Jun 21, 2018, 09:02:15
Signing up. Look forward to watching whenever you get time.
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Pearl
Post by: advCo on Jun 21, 2018, 09:09:34
In.
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight
Post by: trek97 on Jun 21, 2018, 10:06:13
I've bookmarked. We call our GL1800 Black Pearl. "It's just a ship, mate." - Captain Jack Sparrow

Thanks,  Haha,  Iíve already decided on a name change.

Now sheís ďThe Black KnightĒ
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight
Post by: Hurco550 on Jun 21, 2018, 10:09:55
I'm in fo sho. About time you got a bike with an appropriate amount of carbs in your life ;)

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Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight
Post by: trek97 on Jun 21, 2018, 11:27:51
I'm in fo sho. About time you got a bike with an appropriate amount of carbs in your life ;)

Omg dude, donít even remind me of that.   :D
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Jun 21, 2018, 11:48:57
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Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight
Post by: irk miller on Jun 21, 2018, 11:53:48
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Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight
Post by: trek97 on Jun 21, 2018, 12:02:30
Hahahhaha
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight
Post by: canyoncarver on Jun 21, 2018, 13:55:42
InFTW
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight
Post by: trek97 on Jun 21, 2018, 14:12:24
InFTW

You n me both my brother.
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight
Post by: trek97 on Jun 21, 2018, 14:15:34
I really hope the excitement / torture of having it sit in my garage wears off soon. 
So I can try to,re-motivate myself about the other projects Iíve already started and need to finish.
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..ROARS TO LIFE.
Post by: trek97 on Jun 21, 2018, 22:06:20
No spark, Cleaned points and a static timed, she's got spark. 
Replaced fuses w new.
Hooked up the battery pack.
Got a few lights.
Added some gas.

After 1-1/2 hours work.  I was not expecting this.... :o

https://youtu.be/Dd7ojJyVNSw

Rachel takes her turn twisting the throttle.   ;D

https://youtu.be/WTzr3MzEZ5M

The shit that ran outta the carb overflows before the sticky floats slowly closed up and stopped puking.

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Hoping for a Saturday ride.
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..ROARS TO LIFE.
Post by: 3DogNate on Jun 21, 2018, 22:15:02
No spark, Cleaned points and a static timed, she's got spark. 
Replaced fuses w new.
Hooked up the battery pack.
Got a few lights.
Added some gas.

After 1-1/2 hours work.  I was not expecting this.... :o

https://youtu.be/Dd7ojJyVNSw

Rachel takes her turn twisting the throttle.   ;D

https://youtu.be/WTzr3MzEZ5M

The shit that ran outta the carb overflows before the sticky floats slowly closed up and stopped puking.

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Hoping for a Saturday ride.


Nice... now scrub it and list it for sale at mega profit
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..ROARS TO LIFE.
Post by: trek97 on Jun 21, 2018, 22:18:27

Nice... now scrub it and list it for sale at mega profit

No FRIGGIN way bro!!!  This baby has found its family. 

Rachel and I are still in shock.   ;D
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..ROARS TO LIFE.
Post by: advCo on Jun 21, 2018, 23:47:32
No FRIGGIN way bro!!!  This baby has found its family. 

 ;D ;D ;D

Parked for no good reason at all, ha!
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..ROARS TO LIFE.
Post by: trek97 on Jun 22, 2018, 06:10:09
;D ;D ;D

Parked for no good reason at all, ha!

Ill find out more soon, fingers crossed ride tonight or tomorrow. 
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..ROARS TO LIFE.
Post by: pidjones on Jun 22, 2018, 09:28:21
Ain't it a kick when it not only starts, but idles?
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..ROARS TO LIFE.
Post by: SONIC. on Jun 22, 2018, 09:37:13
Damn you.
So jealous. I miss my 400f.
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..ROARS TO LIFE.
Post by: trek97 on Jun 22, 2018, 10:03:07
Damn you.
So jealous. I miss my 400f.

Whoís a ďDouble StinkerĒ?

This guy, Right here.   ;)
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..ROARS TO LIFE.
Post by: trek97 on Jun 22, 2018, 10:06:25
Ain't it a kick when it not only starts, but idles?

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Title: Re: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..ROARS TO LIFE.
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Jun 22, 2018, 17:07:28
Absolutely righteous. Mark my words, it will be love at first ride. 
Title: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..RUNS AND RIDES.
Post by: trek97 on Jun 22, 2018, 22:32:21
Absolutely righteous. Mark my words, it will be love at first ride.

You, my good man, are correct.

First test ride done.

Carbs so clogged I had to run fully choked!!!   ;D

I found she will shift into 1st 2nd and 3rd gears smoothly.  And didn't fog the neighborhood doing it. 

WIN.  Now to de-fuck ALL them carbs and get a real ride.

https://youtu.be/6TxcUfywY9g
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..RUNS AND RIDES.
Post by: irk miller on Jun 22, 2018, 22:45:50
Sounds like shit.   :o ;) ::)  Haha.
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..RUNS AND RIDES.
Post by: trek97 on Jun 22, 2018, 22:49:10
Sounds like shit.   :o ;) ::)  Haha.

GOLDEN shit!!!   ;) ;D  8)
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..RUNS AND RIDES.
Post by: SquidHunter on Jun 22, 2018, 22:54:34
Here for the carb discussion

For real, unbelievable find.


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Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..RUNS AND RIDES.
Post by: trek97 on Jun 22, 2018, 23:01:35
So, I just want to say this to anyone new to this vintage motorcycle game.

Yes I borrowed a battery from Rachels bike and I installed 4 new fuses and a gallon of lawn mower gas.  I already had in my garage

Otherwise, It took me a grand total of $0 dollars and around 3 hours of my time invested to get her Running AND Riding. 

NOW its time to dig in.  Only doing Safety and Reliability stuff.

Then Im gonna ride the shit out of her "FUGLY" for the rest of the summer to help ensure there is nothing catastrophic wrong with her.

So, When the time comes.  I wont be afraid to go ahead and drop a few $$$ on cosmetic stuff.

Not the other way around.

Yes it may take you longer than 3 hours.  But its time well spent and experience gained.  I myself, expected this to take longer and more work.
 
No, I dont believe Im an expert on this stuff.  Its just I do have some experience.  And want you to have a good experience also.
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..RUNS AND RIDES.
Post by: trek97 on Jun 22, 2018, 23:05:32
Here for the carb discussion

For real, unbelievable find.

Well thanks for stopping in. 
I may be able start tearing into the carbs in the morning.
Find out what I need to get ordered.
Not to mention learn how they work...LOL ::)
Really though.  These carbs dont look like any of that carbs on any of the bikes I have.
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..RUNS AND RIDES.
Post by: trek97 on Jun 22, 2018, 23:10:49
Oh and sorry Brad Squidhunter.  I have been a little busy and haven't kept up on your project.

Have you made any headway w your carbs?
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..RUNS AND RIDES.
Post by: SquidHunter on Jun 22, 2018, 23:28:21
Oh and sorry Brad Squidhunter.  I have been a little busy and haven't kept up on your project.

Have you made any headway w your carbs?

Iíve been out of town. Just got back home. Iíll spend some time with the family tomorrow, and be back in the garage Sunday.

A friend of mine is building the same bike you have there. Heís working on a dirt bike carb set up, but I havenít heard anything out of him.

They arenít hard carbs to work on, thereís just 4 of them. The little parts add up quick.


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Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..RUNS AND RIDES.
Post by: trek97 on Jun 23, 2018, 00:07:51
Iíve been out of town. Just got back home. Iíll spend some time with the family tomorrow, and be back in the garage Sunday.

A friend of mine is building the same bike you have there. Heís working on a dirt bike carb set up, but I havenít heard anything out of him.

They arenít hard carbs to work on, thereís just 4 of them. The little parts add up quick.

Thanks Bro.
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..RUNS AND RIDES.
Post by: trek97 on Jun 23, 2018, 00:53:25
Once I see what kind of shape the floats are in I will better know which kit to get.

But looking at this one now...

http://4into1.com/deluxe-tune-up-kit-honda-cb400f-super-sport/

Found it would save me about $30 over piecing this together myself.
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..RUNS AND RIDES.
Post by: pidjones on Jun 23, 2018, 08:25:43
One thing I've learned on the GoldWing carb nightmares - use only Honda float valves (they usually have built-in inlet screens, too). There are often niche suppliers for carbs (Randakk for old GoldWings and many old Hondas) that source Viton o-rings and special seals. A few dollars extra spent there are wise.
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..RUNS AND RIDES.
Post by: trek97 on Jun 23, 2018, 10:03:48
One thing I've learned on the GoldWing carb nightmares - use only Honda float valves (they usually have built-in inlet screens, too). There are often niche suppliers for carbs (Randakk for old GoldWings and many old Hondas) that source Viton o-rings and special seals. A few dollars extra spent there are wise.

WOW, thanks thats great info to know.
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..RUNS AND RIDES.
Post by: Maritime on Jun 23, 2018, 12:50:45
Reach out to swan on here. He knows what you have to put oem honda and what is ok to go aftermarket. Hes restored like 10 400F over the years. He has a couple good threads on here too.
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..RUNS AND RIDES.
Post by: trek97 on Jun 23, 2018, 22:07:53
Reach out to swan on here. He knows what you have to put oem honda and what is ok to go aftermarket. Hes restored like 10 400F over the years. He has a couple good threads on here too.

Wow thanks so much bro I will look him up!!!

As I do, I will re-use all the original brass that I can. 

So hopefully just replacing the rubber o-rings and gaskets.
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..RUNS AND RIDES.
Post by: trek97 on Jun 23, 2018, 22:11:28
Sonic, being the SUPER WONDERFUL DUDE, that he is. 

Sent me a link to what looks to be, at first glance.  An awesome "cheat sheet" for the carb rebuild.  In full color.

Thank you for this, my good man.

I am now sharing the pdf link on my google drive.  You can view or download a copy (upper right hand corner viewing page)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qcuAsKahNnuGAuOV_5hV9dDLKE01yb8z/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..RUNS AND RIDES.
Post by: trek97 on Jun 24, 2018, 09:48:34
I really wanted to dig into the carbs. 

I also got a shit ton of other things that need done.  So I let myself get overwhelmed and did NOTHING all day yesterday.

Starting to do the same again this a.m..  Ive decided I HAVE to hit the work bench project. 

Otherwise it will never happen.  And the Walnut pieces are in the middle of my garage floor.   ;)
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..RUNS AND RIDES.
Post by: trek97 on Jun 24, 2018, 10:58:07
OK OK,   ::) I had to pull the battery to re-install in Rachels bike.  So long as I had tools in my hands. 

And this is as far as it goes.  Unless I find some tinker time, early mornings before going to work.   ;)

Found a good tip on SOHC to use a strap to pull airbox back and away.

These carbs are WAY EASIER to pull off than the 360 carbs.  8)

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Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..RUNS AND RIDES.
Post by: 3DogNate on Jun 25, 2018, 00:11:38
They certainly look like they could use a good going over. If you can stomach the 360 carbs, these should be a breeze. I've rebuilt a number of CV carbs now and the 360 was the least fun to do.
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..RUNS AND RIDES.
Post by: cookiemech on Jun 29, 2018, 05:49:41
Just stumbled on your latest project. What a jewel you have! Gonna be checking on this one.

I've done so many carbs (bike and car) that I don't envy you the smell . . .  :'(
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..RUNS AND RIDES.
Post by: trek97 on Jun 29, 2018, 08:32:45
Just stumbled on your latest project. What a jewel you have! Gonna be checking on this one.

I've done so many carbs (bike and car) that I don't envy you the smell . . .  :'(

Thanks bud!!!  Glad to have you around.  :)
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: trek97 on Jul 01, 2018, 08:42:34
No longer a $450 400 four...

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Title: A $450, 400 four - The Black Knight..RUNS AND RIDES.
Post by: farmer92 on Jul 01, 2018, 08:54:08
Only if the wife asks
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: irk miller on Jul 01, 2018, 08:56:18
And this is why I'm glad you bought that bike.
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: trek97 on Jul 01, 2018, 08:56:34
Only if the wife asks

The UPS man handed her the boxes...so, theres no denying it.

Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: trek97 on Jul 01, 2018, 09:01:41
And this is why I'm glad you bought that bike.

 8). Thanks bro, But, Im just a slave following orders from the voices in my head is all.  ;D
BTW,  Your chopper build is OUTSTANDING. 
Title: Re: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: swan on Jul 29, 2018, 10:15:05
Nice bike, get your carbs sorted, I'm happy to help.
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts collection in progress
Post by: trek97 on Aug 10, 2018, 22:38:39
Still working on wife projects.

However managed a small win.

Ebay $70 (almost like new) 4" Supertrapp megaphone complete w 18 SS tuning discs.

And a SS Wool/fiberglass blanket kit from International Steel Wool. 

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Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: irk miller on Aug 10, 2018, 23:00:56
 ???
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: trek97 on Aug 10, 2018, 23:10:33
???

Yes you totally peer pressured me.   ;)
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: irk miller on Aug 10, 2018, 23:17:59
Ha!  You'll be happy you did.  That's a killer setup.
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: trek97 on Aug 10, 2018, 23:27:19
Ha!  You'll be happy you did.  That's a killer setup.

The 3" kit may find its way onto Piglet.
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: irk miller on Aug 10, 2018, 23:31:09
The 3" kit may find its way onto Piglet.
Or sell it to Levi for $70.  He needs it for the TW.
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: Hurco550 on Aug 10, 2018, 23:31:54
Or sell it to Levi for $70.  He needs it for the TW.
Haha. I sent him a text a few minutes ago about that very thing.

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Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: trek97 on Aug 11, 2018, 09:11:59
OK I talked w Levi...

If we cant find him a Supertrapp at Barbers.  I will send him my 3M for his Baby Shower gift.

But he must name the baby...

Levi "Supertrapp" Jr
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: trek97 on Aug 11, 2018, 11:34:54
Maybe silly but it just felt right giving it a thick coat of VHT flame proof.

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The turkeys stuffed.

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Title: Re: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: WhyNot on Aug 12, 2018, 10:05:49
Thanks for those links...........

Gotta go out and try that strap thingie on my 350f to pull the carbs.

Can you elaborate more on how you did it?

All my so called running projects have really bad carb issues that stops me from riding either.
Title: Re: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: trek97 on Aug 12, 2018, 18:13:13
Thanks for those links...........

Gotta go out and try that strap thingie on my 350f to pull the carbs.

Can you elaborate more on how you did it?

All my so called running projects have really bad carb issues that stops me from riding either.

I dont recall what I hooked the ratchet strap too.  Frame or shocks.  But just ratchet the thing until it gives you room to work.

Oh no you gotta get the carbs sorted dude, and ride.
Title: Re: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: WhyNot on Aug 13, 2018, 08:52:17
Thanks bro......

working on them, just frustrating as h3ll.....
Title: Re: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: trek97 on Aug 13, 2018, 14:35:07
Thanks bro......

working on them, just frustrating as h3ll.....

I know how it can be.  Drive a guy freakin nuts.  And can start getting to be no fun.   >:(
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: trek97 on Aug 13, 2018, 19:40:38
Just like cleaning these damned discs...no fun.  Thank god the chore is over with.

Soaked em in simple green then carb cleaner then orange hand cleaner 4-5 days,

scrubbing them til my brass wire brush and my fingers was down to the nubs. 

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Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Aug 13, 2018, 21:21:04
That's when I fire up the bench grinder with the brass wire wheel  ;D
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: trek97 on Aug 14, 2018, 08:20:50
That's when I fire up the bench grinder with the brass wire wheel  ;D

Yeah, had I known going in to it....
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: trek97 on Aug 19, 2018, 13:05:06
Found an hour this morning.

Less than ideal test conditions = cold engine.

Numbers Not factory fresh.  Better than disappointing, it MIGHT improve after a bit more running.

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Title: Re: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: Maritime on Aug 19, 2018, 14:59:32
The good is all are the same, cold engine that has sat, those are not terrible. Run it in some more and they may go up and the leakage should improve too.
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: trek97 on Aug 19, 2018, 15:40:49
This engine shows 13k on the clock. 

Thanks bud, yeah numbers came up on both Hondamatic and Piglet after running a bit.
 
Do you think its just the rings are sticky in pistons.  And just need the heating and fresh lube in there?

I couldn't detect any leaking from anywhere.  exhaust, intakes or dip stick hole.

The spare engine Im picking up from Hurcos house Labor Day weekend.  Has a "claimed" 7k miles.

It will be interesting to see its numbers.
Title: Re: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: Maritime on Aug 19, 2018, 15:44:27
Dry sticky rings yes. Put just a spray of oil in each plug hole and turn it over a few times, it shoukd free up the rings and help.
Title: Re: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: trek97 on Aug 19, 2018, 21:28:44
Dry sticky rings yes. Put just a spray of oil in each plug hole and turn it over a few times, it shoukd free up the rings and help.

I gave each cylinder a shot of pentetrant when installing gauges.just to ensure they had a little something in there.
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: trek97 on Aug 19, 2018, 21:32:09
I sure wasn't expecting 3.7qts.  Now I got a bit of mess on the floor.  Haha

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-190818193031.jpeg)
Title: Re: A $450, 400 four - parts is parts.
Post by: trek97 on Aug 19, 2018, 21:37:05
This is a bit of an unexpected start on this project for me. 
As Rachel has had me tied up w Honey Do's all summer.

Then she asked this morning,  "Are you gonna have this bike ready for Barbers?"

HAHA!!! 

So what?  Like 7 weeks away!!!!

It wont be "Done-DONE". But Im gonna do my best best to have it running and riding...good enough. 

Nothing like a dead line to motivate a project.  haha.  :P

I will promise if I do make the deadline.  It sure wont be pretty.   ;D

Title: Re: 400 four - dry and dirty
Post by: trek97 on Aug 20, 2018, 22:35:11
Took the guy in the vid an easy 20 seconds...

Me?  10 minutes of cussing, wiggling, pulling and pushing. 

Then it just popped right out, pert near by itself.  hahaha

Thanks for the trick Kiley.    8)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-200818203405.jpeg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vsNdT-6nB8
Title: Re: 400 four - dry and dirty
Post by: trek97 on Aug 21, 2018, 20:38:46
My tire guy told me to have them ready tomorrow eve to mount tires after work.

So I zoomed home to yank em off the bike tonight. 

THIS... ::)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-210818183354-42611388.jpeg)

jumped on ebay and this is on its way...may arrive Monday. >:(   AND from the same guy I bought the titled frame from.   :)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-210818183355-4265668.png)

Title: Re: 400 four - dry and dirty
Post by: advCo on Aug 21, 2018, 23:54:28
Why did you pull the motor? Numbers looked decent for something that hasn't been run?
Title: Re: Re: 400 four - dry and dirty
Post by: Maritime on Aug 22, 2018, 08:35:42
You have seen how Eric works right? He can't get every scrap or old grease and grime off the frame if the motors in the way LOL. ;D
Title: Re: 400 four - dry and dirty
Post by: trek97 on Aug 22, 2018, 21:40:17
Why did you pull the motor? Numbers looked decent for something that hasn't been run?

This frame is un-titled.  I got a second Titled frame and engine currently in storage at Levis house. ALL this has to go on the new frame. 
And the other engine is claimed 7k miles.  So, going to check the numbers on it and then decide which one to use.

You have seen how Eric works right? He can't get every scrap or old grease and grime off the frame if the motors in the way LOL. ;D

Haha Im not THAT bad...am I?    ;D
Title: Re: 400 four - dry and dirty
Post by: trek97 on Aug 22, 2018, 21:46:18
I think I mentioned early on Im going to do this one up Rat Rod...just to shake things up.   ;)

Fenders are starting to rust up extra nice.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220818193523-42701279.jpeg)

Exhaust is a LITTLE TOO RAT ROD even for this project.
 
(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220818193523-4266165.jpeg)

Adding a little contrast and match the Supertrapp...

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220818193523-42681786.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220818193523-42691713.jpeg)
Title: Re: Re: 400 four - dry and dirty
Post by: Maritime on Aug 22, 2018, 21:46:56
I never said it was bad. Just pointing out how you do things.  ;D
Title: Re: Re: 400 four - dry and dirty
Post by: trek97 on Aug 22, 2018, 21:50:34
I never said it was bad. Just pointing out how you do things.  ;D

I know bro.  And Thank you.  Im glad someone finally noticed.   ;D
Title: Re: 400 four - dry and dirty
Post by: Hurco550 on Aug 22, 2018, 22:23:39
Those pipes are the most beautiful thing that has ever come out of Japan attached to a motorcycle.

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Title: 400 four, Every girl deserves a bit of BLING.
Post by: trek97 on Aug 22, 2018, 22:29:27
Those pipes are the most beautiful thing that has ever come out of Japan attached to a motorcycle.

HAHAHAHA.  They are pretty darned magnificent!
Title: Re: 400 four, Every girl deserves a bit of BLING.
Post by: trek97 on Aug 22, 2018, 22:47:04
Rachel had it in her head I paid $40 for the headers.

Thats when I had to fess up...haha

Title: Re: 400 four, Jesus hates me, build
Post by: trek97 on Aug 25, 2018, 18:11:18
I think Jesus is hates me.  Normally I would love to get nice clean parts in the mail. 

I WANT to build a rusty rat rod.  But Im NOT going to Destroy good parts to do it.   

I made the road trip to Hurcos house and picked up my titled fame and engine.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-250818155922-42761227.jpeg)

Rack arrived w Nice chrome.  UGH!!!

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-250818155922-4277203.jpeg)

and the cheapy rim I ordered to replace the bent one.  ARGH.  The darned thing looks to be NOS!!! 

Even has the yellow paint on the nuts!  and the whole thing is still coated in a film of sticky oil.

Once I get it cleaned off this thing will really shine.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-250818155922-427110.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-250818155922-42721830.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-250818155922-42731119.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-250818155922-42742300.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-250818155922-42752366.jpeg)
Title: Re: 400 four, Every girl deserves a bit of BLING.
Post by: farmer92 on Aug 25, 2018, 18:15:19
I think Jesus is hates me.  Normally I would love to get nice clean parts in the mail. 

I WANT to build a rusty rat rod.  But Im NOT going to Destroy good parts to do it.   

I made the road trip to Hurcos house and picked up my titled fame and engine.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-250818155922-42761227.jpeg)

Rack arrived w Nice chrome.  UGH!!!

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-250818155922-4277203.jpeg)

and the cheapy rim I ordered to replace the bent one.  ARGH.  The darned thing looks to be NOS!!! 

Even has the yellow paint on the nuts!  and the whole thing is still coated in a film of sticky oil.

Once I get it cleaned off this thing will really shine.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-250818155922-427110.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-250818155922-42721830.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-250818155922-42731119.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-250818155922-42742300.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-250818155922-42752366.jpeg)

Nothing wrong with a bit of bling to contrast the ratty part of a ratrod
Title: Re: 400 four, Jesus hates me, build
Post by: trek97 on Aug 25, 2018, 18:16:30
Nothing wrong with a bit of bling to contrast the ratty part of a ratrod

I know, but Im afraid this is too much.   ;D

As I was planning on the exhaust being the only stand out nice chrome.

And now I got a "fugly" rear rim and super clean front.   >:( haha.

Im just dont get to bitch about "clean" parts very often.  LOL
Title: Re: 400 four, Jesus hates me, build
Post by: farmer92 on Aug 25, 2018, 20:34:50
I know, but Im afraid this is too much.   ;D

As I was planning on the exhaust being the only stand out nice chrome.

And now I got a "fugly" rear rim and super clean front.   >:( haha.

Im just dont get to bitch about "clean" parts very often.  LOL

Sell the nice stuff to buy some with a bit of patina?
Title: Re: 400 four, Jesus hates me, build
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Aug 25, 2018, 22:30:21
I may have a front from my 350F that is not real clean...wheel only though. I will have to look.
Title: Re: 400 four, Jesus hates me, build
Post by: trek97 on Aug 26, 2018, 08:30:06
Sell the nice stuff to buy some with a bit of patina?

Nah, I'll hang on to the nice stuff.  As no doubt, the day will come.  I want to do full on proper restoration.  ;D

I may have a front from my 350F that is not real clean...wheel only though. I will have to look.

So long as its straight, solid and CHEAP.  The sort of condition, not worth the hassle to sell on ebay. Yet, you just cant toss it into a dumpster either.

I got new bearings and everything sitting here ready to go in.  And I will use this nice brake rotor.  Cause, Stopping is a good thing.  ;)

Title: Re: 400 four, Jesus hates me, build
Post by: farmer92 on Aug 26, 2018, 08:36:44
Nah, I'll hang on to the nice stuff.  As no doubt, the day will come.  I want to do full on proper restoration. 

So long as its straight, solid and CHEAP.  The sort of condition, not worth the hassle to sell on ebay. Yet, you just cant toss it into a dumpster either.

I got new bearings and everything sitting here ready to go in.  And I will use this nice brake rotor.  Cause, Stopping is a good thing. 

I have a bunch of t500 front wheels or bare rims That match that description, you could have for the cost of the ride, it may not be worth the cost of shipping though.
Title: Re: 400 four, Jesus hates me, build
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Aug 26, 2018, 09:55:51
I will get you a few pictures.  And if cheap is you pay for shipping then it's all yours if you decide you want it.
Title: Re: 400 four, Jesus hates me, build
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Aug 26, 2018, 10:15:18
Here it is in all its glory  ;D
Title: Re: 400 four, Jesus hates me, build
Post by: trek97 on Aug 26, 2018, 14:20:59
Ha thanks for taking the time bud. 
But because Ive never laced a wheel Im gonna have to take a pass on that.
I do appreciate the offer.
Title: Re: 400 four, Plan B engine
Post by: trek97 on Aug 26, 2018, 16:42:57
Unloaded Plan B for testing.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-260818143050-4286622.jpeg)

I found a funky little repair.  Welded and ground.  From here it looks solid, but I will have to dig into it.

If you have any insight to what lies behind that cover please share...Its under the clutch adjuster cover.

A pretty protected area from the outside.  wondering if something could have gone very wrong inside.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-260818143050-42871177.jpeg)

Seller said it has 7k miles.  I was really hoping to see 150psi.  But this is fine.  Still its better than the 13k motor.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-260818143049-4279883.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-260818143049-42782162.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-260818143049-42802369.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-260818143652.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-260818143049-4282655.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-260818143049-42831196.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-260818143049-42842483.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-260818143050-4285505.jpeg)
Title: Re: 400 four, Plan B engine
Post by: trek97 on Aug 26, 2018, 17:01:02
Looks like the big bolt holding gear on primary shaft could've backed out.  Eating the inside of the cover.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-260818145836-42882396.png)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-260818145836-42901227.png)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-260818143050-42871177.jpeg)
Title: Re: 400 four, Jesus hates me, build
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Aug 26, 2018, 17:05:34
Ha thanks for taking the time bud. 
But because Ive never laced a wheel Im gonna have to take a pass on that.
I do appreciate the offer.
it's here if you change your mind..
Title: Re: 400 four, Jesus hates me, build
Post by: trek97 on Aug 26, 2018, 17:53:49
it's here if you change your mind..

Thanks my man
Title: Re: 400 four, Plan B engine
Post by: Brodie on Aug 26, 2018, 19:42:21
A friend of mine from work described a rat rot to me as "a vehicle that is more focused on running right and proper rather than looking good."

So something that has all the go fast bits, runs like a top and doesn't matter how the parts look so long as the function.

New wheel, clean frame and rack matter not. Ignore the aesthetics and work on the mechanical. See where it comes to in the end.
Title: Re: 400 four, Plan B engine
Post by: trek97 on Aug 26, 2018, 21:15:20
A friend of mine from work described a rat rot to me as "a vehicle that is more focused on running right and proper rather than looking good."

So something that has all the go fast bits, runs like a top and doesn't matter how the parts look so long as the function.

New wheel, clean frame and rack matter not. Ignore the aesthetics and work on the mechanical. See where it comes to in the end.

Precisely Dr Quest!!!

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-260818191447.png)
Title: Re: 400 four, Morale TANKED.
Post by: trek97 on Sep 03, 2018, 09:40:31
I swear to god, this is not my very first build.  But, it sure feels like it is.   ::)

Fresh...

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-030918073110-4303737.jpeg)

So after finding the bent front rim I scoured over the rear to ensure it was good for new tire. 

Mounted and getting ready to replace bearings and sprocket.  Flipped it over, I find THIS!!! 

I pounded and pounded but just ended up ordering another.    >:(

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-030918073111-43052475.jpeg)
Title: Re: 400 - four, Morale TANKED
Post by: 3DogNate on Sep 03, 2018, 10:51:44
Good move... that rim was pretty janky looking compared to the other.
Title: Re: 400 - four, Morale TANKED
Post by: trek97 on Sep 03, 2018, 12:01:33
Its weird the front was only bent on the left side and rear was only bent on the right side. 

Sorta makes me wonder if they weren't bent during a tire install by some ham fisted previous owner w a crow bar.
Title: Re: 400 - four, Morale TANKED
Post by: SquidHunter on Sep 03, 2018, 22:53:36
Hope you get it ready for barbers. Itís a cool moment when you see a build in real life, that youíve been following online.


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Title: Re: 400 - four, Morale TANKED
Post by: Hurco550 on Sep 03, 2018, 23:02:18
How do you know that it didn't get bent when the new rubber got mounted?

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Title: Re: 400 - four, Morale TANKED
Post by: irk miller on Sep 04, 2018, 00:36:12
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fe/e4/a9/fee4a95e25ae559a0d49f8cf5106f4c3.gif)
Title: Re: 400 - four, Morale TANKED
Post by: pidjones on Sep 04, 2018, 13:25:27
I have to agree on the Rat Rod definition. I'm thinking about a CB740F near me that looks like the tank has been on fire. Plastics look like crap on it, but might make a great running bike.
Title: Re: 400 - four, Morale TANKED
Post by: trek97 on Sep 04, 2018, 14:12:57
Hope you get it ready for barbers. Itís a cool moment when you see a build in real life, that youíve been following online.

Probably wonít happen at this point.  As the new rim may not be here til next Monday.  And my clutch tools/parts havenít shipped from David silver spares yet.  Ordered last week.
Title: Re: 400 - four, Morale TANKED
Post by: trek97 on Sep 04, 2018, 14:14:37
How do you know that it didn't get bent when the new rubber got mounted?

I was the one doing the work.   ;) 
Tim has the nice tire changing machine and helps.
Title: 400-four, Not so RAT ROD.
Post by: trek97 on Sep 06, 2018, 22:17:47
I have to agree on the Rat Rod definition. I'm thinking about a CB740F near me that looks like the tank has been on fire. Plastics look like crap on it, but might make a great running bike.

Yep its official, I suck at building rat rods... >:(

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-060918201316-4310343.png)

Along w brand new fork tubes, arriving soon... ::)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-060918201316-43061628.png)
Title: Re: 400-four, Not so RAT ROD.
Post by: SquidHunter on Sep 06, 2018, 22:51:58
I mean..... those are important bits tho 🤷🏻‍♂️. Just because itís ďrattyĒ doesnít mean it should also ride like crap. Seems like a good investment to me.


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Title: Re: 400-four, Not so RAT ROD.
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Sep 07, 2018, 13:23:09
Is Frank the fork guy still in business?
Title: Re: 400-four, Not so RAT ROD.
Post by: trek97 on Sep 07, 2018, 14:19:21
I mean..... those are important bits tho 🤷🏻‍♂️. Just because itís ďrattyĒ doesnít mean it should also ride like crap. Seems like a good investment to me.

Oh if I just had any balls at all I would rust the items to see my vision through.
But I just donít have it in me to do it.
However, the tubes I got are in usable condition w a little cleaning of the pits.  I may just put the new pair on the shelf for later.
I donít want to mess up the chrome springs on the Hagons....or do I ?
Title: Re: 400-four, Not so RAT ROD.
Post by: trek97 on Sep 07, 2018, 14:20:00
Is Frank the fork guy still in business?

Never heard of Frank the fork guy.
Title: Re: 400-four, Not so RAT ROD.
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Sep 07, 2018, 15:13:55
http://franksforks.com/

Forking by Frank
Title: Re: 400-four, Not so RAT ROD.
Post by: pidjones on Sep 07, 2018, 20:21:32
IMHO, a Rat Rod does not need to be devoid of chrome and new bits. It says "I care about performance, not appearance" and shows it. Lots of decals and such are a plus, if they are like STP, Champion, and Moon. Rat Bikes should show similar things.
Title: Re: 400-four, Not so RAT ROD.
Post by: trek97 on Sep 08, 2018, 10:45:54
More parts.   This should be it, minus fork tubes.  AND anything unforseen.
Fedex "should" be here w rear rim today.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-080918084326.jpeg)

Title: Re: 400-four, Not so RAT ROD.
Post by: cookiemech on Sep 08, 2018, 10:53:49
Ain't that pretty!
Title: Re: 400-four, Not so RAT ROD.
Post by: trek97 on Sep 08, 2018, 11:01:19
Ain't that pretty!

From LED gauge lights to center stand spring...

This little machine gonna be "all but" brand new underneath. 

And it'll be "our" dirty little secret.   ;D
Title: Re: 400-four, Not so RAT ROD.
Post by: trek97 on Sep 09, 2018, 20:44:47
Rear wheel is ready to bolt up.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-090918184238.jpeg)

I also made a 20 minute Wheel Bearing replacement vid...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doT8lNVA7hw&t=45s&list=FLPCejEeqh-Sj0ya5AdXW6Jw&index=2
Title: Re: 400-four, Not so RAT ROD.
Post by: 3DogNate on Sep 09, 2018, 21:25:29
Tick-Tock... get after it man.
Title: Re: 400-four, Not so RAT ROD.
Post by: trek97 on Sep 09, 2018, 22:15:06
Tick-Tock... get after it man.

 ::). Yeah, I think theres no denying this bike aint gonna make the show this time.
Title: Re: 400-four, Not so RAT ROD.
Post by: irk miller on Sep 09, 2018, 22:16:05
It can, if you want it to enough.
Title: Re: 400-four, Not so RAT ROD.
Post by: trek97 on Sep 10, 2018, 22:32:10
I decided not to wait for new tubes to arrive from Hong Kong.

Moving forward w fork rebuild...Rusty RAT ROD style.

Draining stinky old fluid I almost lost my lunch a couple times.  haha.  ;D

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-100918202514-43201046.jpeg)

Sanded the slide zones w 320 emory then hit em w the scotchbrite. 

They came out remarkably smooth.  But I will have to keep a smear of grease on em.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-100918202514-4319711.jpeg)

They will get me by for a season or two, 

Until the proper restoration rolls around.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-100918202514-4318655.jpeg)

yes heating the old seals for removal...So STINKY!!! 

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-100918202514-4311376.jpeg)

All buttoned up,

fresh o-rings for caps once installed and filled w new oil.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-100918203746.jpeg)







Title: Re: 400-four, TIN ROOF...Rusted.
Post by: trek97 on Sep 11, 2018, 21:07:18
One freshly restored motorbike frame...

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-110918185854-432725.jpeg)

PLUS...a Jar of Metal Effects Iron oxidizing paint and activator...

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-110918185854-43211145.jpeg)

EQUALS...An old shitty looking frame.   ;D.  I couldn't be happier w the results.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-110918185854-43262069.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-110918185854-43252380.jpeg)

And the REAL RUST is looking great too...  ;)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-110918185854-43242426.jpeg)


Title: Re: 400-four, TIN ROOF...Rusted.
Post by: trek97 on Sep 13, 2018, 21:27:11
New steering bearings...NOT!!!

Sent me the wrong ones.  UGH.   >:(

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-130918192304-43441816.jpeg)

On the upside.  New fork tubes arrived just in the nick of time. A lot sooner than I expected.   

So I went ahead and got them installed.   :)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-130918192304-43282316.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-130918192304-43432341.jpeg)
Title: Re: 400-four, TIN ROOF...Rusted.
Post by: Brodie on Sep 14, 2018, 06:32:43
Nice
Title: Re: 400-four, TIN ROOF...Rusted.
Post by: trek97 on Sep 14, 2018, 19:18:55
Nice

Thank you sir.

Im really happy w how the tank is coming along.  Just a few more tweaks and it will be ready for 2K clear.   ;D

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-140918171041-43461979.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-140918171041-4345820.jpeg)
Title: Re: 400-four, TIN ROOF...Rusted.
Post by: SquidHunter on Sep 14, 2018, 22:56:40
Thank you sir.

Im really happy w how the tank is coming along.  Just a few more tweaks and it will be ready for 2K clear.   ;D

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-140918171041-43461979.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-140918171041-4345820.jpeg)

Iím digging it! Where did you find forks. Iíve got to get some for my bike. One is too far gone. It boogers up the seal


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Title: Re: 400-four, TIN ROOF...Rusted.
Post by: trek97 on Sep 15, 2018, 18:21:02
Iím digging it! Where did you find forks. Iíve got to get some for my bike. One is too far gone. It boogers up the seal

Thanks and here ya go, these say they fit 1981 cb750f, they also have them for other cb750 models.  Same supplier as mine. 

I made them a lowball offer they came back $20 off regular price.
 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/FORK-PIPE-FOR-HONDA-CB750-CB750F-CB750FB-35MM-Front-fork-inner-tubes-43/263140157382?hash=item3d446027c6:g:xTMAAOSwpP9Y6csn&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: 400-four, TIN ROOF...Rusted.
Post by: SquidHunter on Sep 15, 2018, 21:51:00
Thanks and here ya go, these say they fit 1981 cb750f, they also have them for other cb750 models.  Same supplier as mine. 

I made them a lowball offer they came back $20 off regular price.
 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/FORK-PIPE-FOR-HONDA-CB750-CB750F-CB750FB-35MM-Front-fork-inner-tubes-43/263140157382?hash=item3d446027c6:g:xTMAAOSwpP9Y6csn&vxp=mtr

Nice!! Thanks!


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Title: Re: 400-four, Roller
Post by: trek97 on Sep 16, 2018, 06:52:19
Fedex dropped off the correct steering stem bearings.  FTW!!!   8)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-160918044909-43501430.jpeg)

Once again The Black Knight is a ROLLER.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-160918044909-4355515.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220618042444.png)
Title: Re: 400-four, Roller
Post by: irk miller on Sep 16, 2018, 08:00:13
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/gfaqssb/images/1/10/BKnight.jpeg/revision/latest?cb=20160717184739)
Title: Re: 400-four, Roller
Post by: pidjones on Sep 16, 2018, 08:42:07
It's just a flesh wound.
Title: The Black Knight, Roller
Post by: trek97 on Sep 16, 2018, 09:33:42
It's just a flesh wound.

Exactly!   ;D
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Loading on Service Bench
Post by: trek97 on Sep 16, 2018, 12:58:49
The video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seNk7NI2qGQ

Title: Re: The Black Knight, Roller
Post by: irk miller on Sep 16, 2018, 13:01:08
Dude, that's awesome!!!
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Loading on Service Bench
Post by: trek97 on Sep 16, 2018, 13:02:16
Dude, that's awesome!!!

Thanks bro!   :)

And THANKS so much for all your helpful suggestions. Castors are perfect.
(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-200816163635.png)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Loading on Service Bench
Post by: canyoncarver on Sep 16, 2018, 17:16:42
Yeah it is.!
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Loading on Service Bench
Post by: Hurco550 on Sep 16, 2018, 19:10:39
 that bench is the bees knees man

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Title: Re: The Black Knight, Loading on Service Bench
Post by: trek97 on Sep 16, 2018, 19:53:51
haha thanks guys.  I very happy w it.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Loading on Service Bench
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Sep 16, 2018, 21:24:09
That's awesome!
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Loading on Service Bench
Post by: trek97 on Sep 16, 2018, 22:08:20
That's awesome!

Thanks dude.
Title: Re: Re: The Black Knight, Loading on Service Bench
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Sep 17, 2018, 07:10:19
I am a fan of everything that is happening in this thread. That bench is perfect.
Title: Re: Re: The Black Knight, Loading on Service Bench
Post by: trek97 on Sep 17, 2018, 07:44:44
I am a fan of everything that is happening in this thread. That bench is perfect.

Thanks brother, Im a huge fan of yours.  The tile/hardwood Combe is fantastic. 
Was the wood floor already installed?  How did you cut it to fit tiles?
Title: Re: Re: The Black Knight, Loading on Service Bench
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Sep 17, 2018, 07:53:41
Laid out the tiles on top of the hardwood with grout spacers. Traced the tiles with a sharpie. Used a combination of a circular saw, oscillating saw, and a hammer/chisel to cut the shapes into the wood. Lots of work for such a small area of tile. Ha.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Loading on Service Bench
Post by: pidjones on Sep 17, 2018, 08:15:09
Just freaking awsome!
Title: Re: Re: The Black Knight, Loading on Service Bench
Post by: Jimbonaut on Sep 17, 2018, 09:56:21
I don't have enough superlatives for that bench.  And it's clearly not just beautifully made but brilliantly practical.  I'd like one, please and thank you!

And this bike looks killer too, fantastic!
Title: Re: Re: The Black Knight, Loading on Service Bench
Post by: Jimbonaut on Sep 17, 2018, 09:56:58
And I'm not normally and exclamation point kind of guy!
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Loading on Service Bench
Post by: Hurco550 on Sep 17, 2018, 10:02:01
LOUDDDDDD NOISESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Loading on Service Bench
Post by: Pete12 on Sep 17, 2018, 10:10:01
Unbelievable, what a job. That's the best stand I've ever seen, awesome.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Loading on Service Bench
Post by: advCo on Sep 17, 2018, 10:27:48
Dude, the stand is awesome. I need to build me one of those!
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Loading on Service Bench
Post by: trek97 on Sep 17, 2018, 19:24:39
Thanks so much everyone...now I hope the bike turns out as good as the stand.   ::)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Loading on Service Bench
Post by: trek97 on Sep 17, 2018, 19:36:11
Dude, the stand is awesome. I need to build me one of those!

DO IT!!!!!

Heres the detail plans...

http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=75622.0

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-160618160157-39051731.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Back to work.
Post by: trek97 on Sep 18, 2018, 21:08:18
3-4 days w 3-1/2 gallons of apple cider vinegar, rinsed w water, rinsed w alcohol-dried w heat gun, then a light coat of Marvel Mystery oil.

Minor flash rust but clean down to the bottom.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-180918185549-43581988.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-180918185549-4356450.jpeg)

The zinc coating on spokes on the rear wheel are black-ish-gray.

So working to polish them to match the super nice front rim.

Kanticoy recommended steel wool w kerosene, no kerosene on hand so tired steel wool w penetrant.
It worked but it was a bunch a work.
Tried Hurcos chrome cleaning secret.  Cooktop cleaner w paper towel.
It worked as well and was the same amount of labor.

Gonna stick w cooktop cleaner w paper towels, as it may be easier on the zinc coating.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-180918190017-4362774.jpeg)

So far I got 3 done and 33 more to go...I will work on them when I dont feel like doing anything else.   ::)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-180918190017-4361767.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Back to work.
Post by: Hurco550 on Sep 19, 2018, 12:52:36
don't tell anyone, but I actually stole that secret from ridesolo
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Back to work.
Post by: irk miller on Sep 19, 2018, 13:44:47
LOL.  Just an FYI, that cooktop cleaner is basically calcined kaolin and feldspar (that's where "cerama" comes from) in a cleaner base, so you could come up with a formula to make yourself pretty cheaply. 
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Back to work.
Post by: trek97 on Sep 19, 2018, 14:17:56
don't tell anyone, but I actually stole that secret from ridesolo

Haha there is a lot of thievery going on here, these days.   ;D

LOL.  Just an FYI, that cooktop cleaner is basically calcined kaolin and feldspar (that's where "cerama" comes from) in a cleaner base, so you could come up with a formula to make yourself pretty cheaply. 

I think that bottle of pre-mix was pretty inexpensive.   :)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Back to work.
Post by: Hurco550 on Sep 19, 2018, 14:37:33
all I know is that through sorcery, witchcraft and magic, glass cooktop cleaner + aluminum foil does an amazing job cleaning chrome.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Back to work.
Post by: trek97 on Sep 20, 2018, 07:42:09
all I know is that through sorcery, witchcraft and magic, glass cooktop cleaner + aluminum foil does an amazing job cleaning chrome.

Heck and I just been using it w paper towels.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Need engine stand ideas
Post by: trek97 on Sep 20, 2018, 21:41:12
OK guys, ENGINE STAND,  needing ideas and suggestions.

With its large oil pan and oil filter, this 400f is an awkward and tippy SOB.

Im looking at milk crates, lumber, unistruts, threaded rods...etc

And can not come up w a good idea to be able to place it up on my work-mate.

AND still pull oil pan, filter,  side covers, clutch, head cover. etc.  For work, cleaning and painting.

So if anyone has any pics or ideas of ANY kind of stand, that could be made to work for this.  I would greatly appreciate it.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-200918192559-436335.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-200918192559-43681296.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Need engine stand ideas
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Sep 20, 2018, 21:46:07
I have seen a few guys use a car engine stand and made some adapters to fit the engine mounts.
Might be tough on older engines to figure out though.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Need engine stand ideas
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Sep 20, 2018, 21:51:49
This?
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Need engine stand ideas
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Sep 20, 2018, 21:54:55
Or..
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Need engine stand ideas
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Sep 20, 2018, 21:57:05
Or..
Title: Re: Re: The Black Knight, Need engine stand ideas
Post by: pidjones on Sep 20, 2018, 22:11:38
Hack and weld some legs on an old frame?
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Need engine stand ideas
Post by: trek97 on Sep 20, 2018, 22:13:34
I have seen a few guys use a car engine stand and made some adapters to fit the engine mounts.
Might be tough on older engines to figure out though.

Thanks bud, and yeah that on on the car engine stand would be tits.  But theres like no way. 

I am coming up w a unistrut plan similar to first pic you posted.
Title: Re: Re: The Black Knight, Need engine stand ideas
Post by: trek97 on Sep 20, 2018, 22:15:00
Hack and weld some legs on an old frame?

Haha I though about that for a millisecond but I have plans for the spare frame I have.  :)

And these frames aren't that cheap.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Need engine stand ideas
Post by: Hurco550 on Sep 20, 2018, 22:24:18
I made one when I was redoing the gt250 that fits on a regular engine stand. It is way overbuilt, but it was material that I already had around. It does a fantastic job and is very nice to be able to get all the way around the engine. Also, if you can believe it, my garage was actually clean enough and uncluttered enough at one point to have that in there LOL(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180921/4c559dae1cff5c7b703e9d2bfdc7db9b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180921/6fbd7e7ac364919935c345c29d324ac1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180921/ab253f9d069644922df99b513d8581dc.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180921/940f4927ab20f847dd2eab89acf9e55f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180921/3099bc5e4c2f4cc5761cb14428144e38.jpg)

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Title: Re: The Black Knight, Need engine stand ideas
Post by: trek97 on Sep 20, 2018, 22:27:11
OOOoooooooo. Levi !!!!  Now thats cool.  But my engine stand went when I sold the Mustang.  ARGH

And my wire feed skills are NOT up to that challenge.  haha

There is one frame for sale.  CRACKED and NO TITLE and $600.00  Free shipping though!   :o

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-200918202424.png)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Need engine stand ideas
Post by: trek97 on Sep 20, 2018, 22:33:24
my garage was actually clean enough and uncluttered enough at one point to have that in there LOL

Hmmm OK, If thats your story.  LOL.  ;D
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Need engine stand ideas
Post by: Hurco550 on Sep 20, 2018, 22:47:17
Hmmm OK, If thats your story.  LOL.  ;D
.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180921/9dd47d7aedf9ecbae7bb276cfc46b9f1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180921/db51021124db0cde806ac78d8167176a.jpg)

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Title: Re: The Black Knight, Need engine stand ideas
Post by: trek97 on Sep 21, 2018, 10:16:54
Totally photoshopped
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Need engine stand ideas
Post by: ridesolo on Sep 21, 2018, 22:12:45
Totally photoshopped 

Right... that pix has to have been taken the day after he moved in cuz it hasn't looked like that in a LOOOOOONG time! 
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Need engine stand ideas
Post by: trek97 on Sep 21, 2018, 23:22:05

Right... that pix has to have been taken the day after he moved in cuz it hasn't looked like that in a LOOOOOONG time! 


Haha So the jig is up.   ;D

Title: Re: The Black Knight, Sketchy engine stand
Post by: trek97 on Sep 21, 2018, 23:28:37
One word for this engine stand....

SKETCHY. 

Really its actually sorta solid.  ::)  Though I may end up adding some flying buttresses before its over.  LOL

And if need be, I wont be afraid to swap in longer front struts to tip the engine back for easier access to the soft underbelly.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-210918212019-4369416.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-210918212019-437127.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-210918212019-43721861.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Sketchy engine stand
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Sep 21, 2018, 23:36:36
I would worry more about it being top heavy on that work bench.  But a nice little stand otherwise.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Sketchy engine stand
Post by: trek97 on Sep 21, 2018, 23:57:42
I would worry more about it being top heavy on that work bench.  But a nice little stand otherwise.

It really doesn't want to tip too badly.  Im just hoping the workmate doesn't buckle, bend and fold over.

Its made from pretty chintzy stuff.  I shoulda sprung for the real deal Black and Decker - WM1000
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Sketchy engine stand
Post by: Flugtechnik on Sep 22, 2018, 01:20:33
That is 13 times less sketchy than my engine stand.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-tpnHj70SbA/SkoTp8O6lyI/AAAAAAAAAlQ/5fPvokIStl4/s320/DSC00078.JPG)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-tpnHj70SbA/SkoTQ2mKVOI/AAAAAAAAAlA/KyyZAO-MfxU/s320/DSC00079.JPG)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Sketchy engine stand
Post by: trek97 on Sep 22, 2018, 07:59:39
That is 13 times less sketchy than my engine stand.


FLUG!!!  How you been bud?

Maybe only like 9.372 times less sketchy.   ;)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Pleasant surprise inside
Post by: trek97 on Sep 22, 2018, 12:54:59
This makes me feel better.  ;D

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220918103410-43911767.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220918103410-43901803.jpeg)

Imagine that, a SS screw galded in the aluminum

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220918103410-43881187.jpeg)

Yup, dry as a bone.  Stupid

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220918103410-43872373.jpeg)

Someones been here before....

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220918102724-4386791.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220918103410-43891492.jpeg)

Repair

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220918102724-4385485.jpeg)

But not damaged...

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220918102723-4384270.jpeg)

Found #4 intake tappet lock nut completely loose.  :o

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220918102723-43831171.jpeg)

AWESOME!!!

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220918102723-43811541.jpeg)

Im seeing zero signs of wear.  :)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220918102723-4382287.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220918102723-43731349.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220918102723-43781889.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220918102723-43791159.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220918102723-4380820.jpeg)




Title: Re: Re: The Black Knight, Sketchy engine stand
Post by: 3DogNate on Sep 22, 2018, 13:10:33
Sweet! clean and reassemble (correctly) and get it back in the frame.
Title: Re: Re: The Black Knight, Sketchy engine stand
Post by: trek97 on Sep 22, 2018, 13:22:11
Sweet! clean and reassemble (correctly) and get it back in the frame.

Fresh clutch discs, plates and springs going in first.  New ignition points plate.
Clean pickup screen and new filter, drive sprocket, fresh little harness for the stator and field coils
Re-torque head bolts and adjust valves.     :)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Sketchy engine stand
Post by: pidjones on Sep 22, 2018, 13:38:44
That looks stable. BTW, I have had excellent luck with smooth SS threads in aluminum when I give them a couple coats of Neolube (graphite in alcohol) first. Cheap, rough SS threads will screw it up every time.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Sketchy engine stand
Post by: trek97 on Sep 22, 2018, 13:55:31
Yea I like thread sealant w teflon its good up to 550 degrees F.  Never hardens up. 

Really just about anything will work to prevent galling.  anti-seize, locktite...etc 

The Stainless and aluminum combo is just the worst possible mix for galling.

(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j449/trek97/11-1088clr.jpg)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Sketchy engine stand
Post by: trek97 on Sep 22, 2018, 13:56:35
Does anyone know,

Can I just pull the screen from the pickup?  OR do I need to pull the complete pickup?
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Sketchy engine stand
Post by: irk miller on Sep 22, 2018, 15:53:12
I suggested what to do, but you don't want my advice.  LOL.  I'll say it again anyway.  If you remove it, the hardened rubber may crack, so be prepared to buy a replacement.  It's really nuts, but Honda put the same design pickup screen on the CB750.  Either rinse it clean or carefully and slowly pry it off and hope you don't crack the hardened rubber.  The screen is keeping the crap from going back up into the motor, so all the shit is on the side you're looking at.  I've been scraping my screen and rinsing it clean on my CB750, but I'm an idiot who half asses everything because I spend too much money on shitty motorcycles at swap meets.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Sketchy engine stand
Post by: Brodie on Sep 22, 2018, 16:59:33


I'm an idiot who half asses everything because I spend too much money on shitty motorcycles at swap meets.

Story of my life...
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Sketchy engine stand
Post by: trek97 on Sep 22, 2018, 17:03:33
I suggested what to do, but you don't want my advice.  LOL.  I'll say it again anyway.  If you remove it, the hardened rubber may crack, so be prepared to buy a replacement.  It's really nuts, but Honda put the same design pickup screen on the CB750.  Either rinse it clean or carefully and slowly pry it off and hope you don't crack the hardened rubber.  The screen is keeping the crap from going back up into the motor, so all the shit is on the side you're looking at.  I've been scraping my screen and rinsing it clean on my CB750, but I'm an idiot who half asses everything because I spend too much money on shitty motorcycles at swap meets.

hahahaha. Ill just spray w penetrant and brush over it w shop vac and call it good.  THANKYOU.

BTW..."Better replace it all. Itís trash".  didn't really answer the question I asked.  LOLOL
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Sketchy engine stand
Post by: trek97 on Sep 22, 2018, 17:05:23

Story of my life...

I dont believe this applies to either of you.
Title: Re: Re: The Black Knight, Sketchy engine stand
Post by: Flugtechnik on Sep 22, 2018, 22:21:54
FLUG!!!  How you been bud?

Maybe only like 9.372 times less sketchy.   ;)

I'm good.  Just lurking in the background keeping an eye on ya.
Title: Re: Re: The Black Knight, Sketchy engine stand
Post by: trek97 on Sep 22, 2018, 23:11:59
I'm good.  Just lurking in the background keeping an eye on ya.

I always know'd you gots dem "Shifty Eyes"
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Sketchy engine stand
Post by: pidjones on Sep 22, 2018, 23:25:32
Yea I like thread sealant w teflon its good up to 550 degrees F.  Never hardens up. 

Really just about anything will work to prevent galling.  anti-seize, locktite...etc 

The Stainless and aluminum combo is just the worst possible mix for galling.
I'd say SS in SS is the worst with no proper lube. Welds itself together real good. Square thread valve caps on the nuclear submarines had to be ground off before they started using Neolube.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Sketchy engine stand
Post by: irk miller on Sep 23, 2018, 00:58:29
hahahaha. Ill just spray w penetrant and brush over it w shop vac and call it good.  THANKYOU.

BTW..."Better replace it all. Itís trash".  didn't really answer the question I asked.  LOLOL
LOL.  Seriously though, it's really not worth risking having to replace it if it cracks.  Mine is basically glued on from years of hot oil, so I'm not fucking with it.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Sketchy engine stand
Post by: trek97 on Sep 23, 2018, 08:24:54
LOL.  Seriously though, it's really not worth risking having to replace it if it cracks.  Mine is basically glued on from years of hot oil, so I'm not fucking with it.

Im picking up what you're putting down.  I just cleaned it as best I could same as you.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, The Powerplant.
Post by: trek97 on Sep 23, 2018, 08:41:19
I use brass bore brushes to get between fins.  They dont last as long as Id like.

And you got to run the drill slow and cautiously, reversing directions, as they are really easy to ruin.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-230918062157-44082120.png)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-230918062157-44091496.png)

Stripping the heads on ALL of these was fun.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-230918062157-44031385.jpeg)

I pulled the O-rings and rubber gasket out of the head cover & caps.

Heat and Vise Grips did the trick though the last one was a complete bitch, I won the battle.

Swapmeet Louie would've had a cow!!! Miss that guy.   :'(

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-230918062157-44041821.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-230918062157-44051430.jpeg)

The right tools made pulling the clutch basket a quick and easy task.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-230918062157-44071207.jpeg)

Found basket was damaged by the gear.  So the fresh replacement is going in.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-230918062157-4406533.jpeg)

Gotta dig out the new springs.  Got the discs soaking in oil bath.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-230918062157-4402567.jpeg)

Started this at 330am Now 630 Time for a NAP!!!   ::)






Title: Re: The Black Knight, The Powerplant.
Post by: trek97 on Sep 23, 2018, 12:22:50
Hands down, worst gasket to remove Ive ever encountered.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-230918102130.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, The Powerplant.
Post by: trek97 on Sep 23, 2018, 14:59:03
Found my springs, also got a new bearing but not gonna mess w it.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-230918125416-44122436.jpeg)

Fresh stuff going in...

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-230918125416-4413910.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-230918125416-44142170.jpeg)

Used "Ye ole penny trick" to torque everything w purple locktite on the primary shaft bolt!!!!

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-230918125416-44151412.jpeg)
Title: Re: Re: The Black Knight, The Powerplant.
Post by: Maritime on Sep 24, 2018, 08:47:50
Nice might make barber yet!
Title: Re: Re: The Black Knight, The Powerplant.
Post by: trek97 on Sep 24, 2018, 08:58:26
Nice might make barber yet!

Sorry but no.  The kids are gonna be moving to California to finish school.

So, saving all my vaca time as Ive been "volunteered" to drive the moving truck!!!   ;D

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-240918065616.jpeg)
Title: Re: Re: The Black Knight, The Powerplant.
Post by: Maritime on Sep 24, 2018, 09:01:40
Well I'm missing this year too for Kid reasons so I understand.
Title: Re: Re: The Black Knight, The Powerplant.
Post by: Maritime on Sep 24, 2018, 09:02:15
Oh and congrats!
Title: Re: Re: The Black Knight, The Powerplant.
Post by: Hurco550 on Sep 24, 2018, 10:25:50
Well I'm missing this year too for Kid reasons so I understand.

It may be a bit of a quiet year down there as far as the DTT crowd is concerned. I'm missing for kid stuff too lol

I am really really hoping to make it the next year though. I miss "the crew"
Title: Re: Re: The Black Knight, The Powerplant.
Post by: Maritime on Sep 24, 2018, 10:58:20
It may be a bit of a quiet year down there as far as the DTT crowd is concerned. I'm missing for kid stuff too lol

I am really really hoping to make it the next year though. I miss "the crew"

Yep, this will be 2nd year in a row I'm missing it. Need to go next year for sure.  Miss all my DTT family a lot.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, The Powerplant.
Post by: trek97 on Sep 24, 2018, 22:14:29
FUGLY

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-240918200145-44161953.jpeg)

Again...FUGLY and STICKY

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-240918200145-44211105.jpeg)

New points & condensers, oiled felt, Pre-Treated connections w Deoxit protector. 

Purple locktite 222 on new Stainless hardware and a pair of 5.5mm wrenches are a must own.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-240918200145-4422526.jpeg)

Cleaned, inspected and lubed

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-240918200145-4423482.jpeg)

Fresh grease in the groove.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-240918200145-44241973.jpeg)

Task complete.   8)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-240918200145-44252329.jpeg)





Title: Re: Re: The Black Knight, The Powerplant.
Post by: trek97 on Sep 24, 2018, 22:19:45
Oh and congrats!

Thanks brother, we couldn't be happier Jason is a helluva good kid. 

Just needs to spend a bit more time in the garage!!!   ;D
Title: Re: The Black Knight, The Powerplant.
Post by: irk miller on Sep 24, 2018, 23:13:14

Task complete.   8)


This is why this bike needed you.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, The Powerplant.
Post by: trek97 on Sep 25, 2018, 00:27:04
This is why this bike needed you.

haha, bro.  If itís not right, then itís wrong.  Thatís all there is too it.

And that chopper...I have no words.   
Title: Re: The Black Knight, The Powerplant.
Post by: pidjones on Sep 25, 2018, 08:40:49
I like their layout with the condensers right there with the points. For one thing, it reminds you that the condensers are important. The main thing is eliminating long runs and poor connections to them. A weakness on the GL1000s. Now that you have spent the time to prepare this area properly, future problems are minimised. Just your post on this should be a newby sticky.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, The Powerplant.
Post by: trek97 on Sep 25, 2018, 21:26:17
main thing is eliminating long runs and poor connections to them.

Amen brother.

Title: Re: The Black Knight, Pressing my luck
Post by: trek97 on Sep 25, 2018, 21:39:18
If you think you want to remove these 4 bastards to free the oil pan separator.

You'd better pack a lunch and be ready for massive disappointment.

By some miracle of the God "Honda", along w every trick I know, I was able to get ALL 4 out intact.

I have no idea how this happened other than a damned high quality set of left hand drill bits, easy outs, sweat, cussing and patience. 

Im quitting for the night.  As I dont want to press my luck any further.

When all four popped free, it sounded like the crack of a .22 short.   :o

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-250918192409-4434794.jpeg)
 
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Pressing my luck
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Sep 25, 2018, 21:44:05
The baffle thingy bolts? Mine came right out on the 350...lucky I guess I was.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Pressing my luck
Post by: trek97 on Sep 25, 2018, 21:47:02
The baffle thingy bolts? Mine came right out on the 350...lucky I guess I was.

Ive never seen anything like this my whole life. 

I think Rachel "jumped" every time one popped.  LOL
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Up-skirt
Post by: trek97 on Sep 28, 2018, 21:48:08
Just a quickie up-skirt shot.

Makes for comfy removal and cleaning of the oil pan gasket.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-280918194534.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Up-skirt
Post by: trek97 on Sep 28, 2018, 23:10:19
A guy could spend a week cleaning the underside and not feel ready for paint.   :P

So Im done cleaning.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-280918210854.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Up-skirt
Post by: Brodie on Sep 28, 2018, 23:12:29
Neat.

What colour paint are you planning to use?
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Up-skirt
Post by: trek97 on Sep 28, 2018, 23:25:09
Neat.

What colour paint are you planning to use?

Only Honda RED will do   ;)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-200414153016-1272441.jpeg)

Joking....Marbles motors, Honda Silver.  Same as Rachels Hondamatic.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-090318205548-34161014.png)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Up-skirt
Post by: trek97 on Sep 28, 2018, 23:31:25
So in the morning Ill set it back upright and start washing it from the top down w Brake Cleaner.

Then spray.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Up-skirt
Post by: Brodie on Sep 29, 2018, 00:23:26
Going to look good.
Title: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: trek97 on Sep 29, 2018, 15:01:33
Mock up, I just couldn't wait.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-290918125703-4441216.png)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-290918125703-4435586.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220918103411-439676.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220918103411-43942010.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220918103410-4392374.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220918103411-43951576.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Up-skirt
Post by: Maritime on Sep 29, 2018, 15:14:57
Holy shit
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Up-skirt
Post by: trek97 on Sep 29, 2018, 15:22:03
Holy shit

Thanks you sir.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: trek97 on Sep 29, 2018, 15:50:13
Still got to add the cover gaskets, seals, bolt kits, adj valves...currently waiting for the oil plug o-rings to arrive.

I should have the engine buttoned up and in the frame next weekend.  Giving paint time to harden.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-290918134854-44431136.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-290918134854-4442525.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: Jimbonaut on Sep 29, 2018, 19:51:56
Holy shit is pretty much exactly what I'm thinking too.  That engine looks better than when it left the Honda factory.  Beautiful work mate!
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: ridesolo on Sep 29, 2018, 20:04:39
Mock up, I just couldn't wait.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-290918125703-4441216.png)

Wow, that sure is goung to be one nasty, dirty, gnarly-looking rat rod.  Are you going to clean that engine up or are you going to leave it looking nasty like that? 

:D
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Sep 29, 2018, 20:09:33
That's the cleanest rat rod engine I have seen...lol..  Looks amazing !!
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: trek97 on Sep 29, 2018, 21:24:02
That's the cleanest rat rod engine I have seen...lol..  Looks amazing !!

Wow, that sure is goung to be one nasty, dirty, gnarly-looking rat rod.  Are you going to clean that engine up or are you going to leave it looking nasty like that? 

:D

Holy shit is pretty much exactly what I'm thinking too.  That engine looks better than when it left the Honda factory.  Beautiful work mate!

Its quickly becoming apparent, "I guess I suck at building rat rods".   ;D
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: Luugo86 on Sep 29, 2018, 21:32:18
That is an incredible job on that engine... can you PM me ur step by step method for how u got it looking so darn good?  Im about to clean a CB350 engine.. thanks man
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: Brodie on Sep 29, 2018, 22:12:06
You could just claim the smooth paint helps with heat dissipation and aerodynamics. Rat rod crowd should dig it.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: trek97 on Sep 29, 2018, 23:34:36
That is an incredible job on that engine... can you PM me ur step by step method for how u got it looking so darn good?  Im about to clean a CB350 engine.. thanks man
(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-290918213116.png)

and

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-110318121731.png)

Thanks so much, and yeah,  Ill make a post in the morning.  Some guy from France asked me to do the same thing on FB.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: trek97 on Sep 29, 2018, 23:37:04
You could just claim the smooth paint helps with heat dissipation and aerodynamics. Rat rod crowd should dig it.

If the whole bike looked like crap it would just be another crappy looking bike.

Am I right?!?!   8)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: Brodie on Sep 29, 2018, 23:40:01
Yep. Fine line between Rat rod and crap pot.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: Luugo86 on Sep 29, 2018, 23:44:32
(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-290918213116.png)

and

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-110318121731.png)

Thanks so much, and yeah,  Ill make a post in the morning.  Some guy from France asked me to do the same thing on FB.

 lol
... u know the shamwow guy cant do commercials anymore because a hooker bit his tongue out
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: trek97 on Sep 30, 2018, 07:25:32
lol
... u know the shamwow guy cant do commercials anymore because a hooker bit his tongue out

Wow so gross.  What kind of hooker does it take to kiss THAT GUY?!?!?
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: trek97 on Sep 30, 2018, 09:31:33
That is an incredible job on that engine... can you PM me ur step by step method for how u got it looking so darn good?  Im about to clean a CB350 engine.. thanks man

Thanks bud, and really no secret, pretty simple really...

Removed and cleaned all the cover gaskets surfaces

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-250918192409-4433369.jpeg)

I washed it down w diesel fuel and small brass wire brush to knock of most of the grime, rinsing clean w water.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220918103411-4393156.jpeg)

Then a boat load of Dremel wire brushes and little scotchbrite puffs to knock off the hard oxidation and smooth the aluminum.

SAFETY GLASSES AND A DUST MASK!   The cheap Dremel wire wheels throw wires out constantly.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KO98PIK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KFPO4BK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-300918064341-4444563.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-230918062157-44082120.png)

This is after cleaning...

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-280918210854.jpeg)

I sandblasted the breather, oil filter, left side sprocket, clutch covers and oil pan.  Just the stuff thats was to wash ALL the sand out.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-300918064341-4451655.jpeg)

re-assembled all the covers (tight, using only 2 or 3 bolts) and stuffed paper towels in the intakes and exhaust ports

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-300918064341-4448536.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-300918064341-4449436.jpeg)

Flooded the whole engine w Brake cleaner.  (Do not use carb cleaner...they are not the same thing.). Brake cleaner ONLY

Blow it out and dry w compressed air.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-300918064341-4450541.jpeg)

Washed it w brake cleaner a 2nd time.  Blowing dry w compressed air.

Removed most bolts from covers.  Leaving just one bolt to hold each cover loosely. 

Loose enough that the covers and Valve adj caps really dont touch the cases.    (Room for a playing card to slip in.)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-300918064341-4446977.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-300918064341-44471268.jpeg)

I didn't mask off anything.  I got new seals for it.  So this will get replaced. 

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-300918064341-44531229.jpeg)

Irk turned me onto this Marbles Motors high heat engine paint.  I LOVE IT.  Same stuff I used on Rachels Hondamatic.

It looks nice and weathers well.

http://marblesmotors.com/product/honda-engine-cover-paint-matched-color-silver/

Actually its the same can (I Spray light enough to do the 2 engines w one can) 

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-300918064342-4454324.jpeg)

I dont use primer w this paint.  I have primered engines in the past but for this and the Hondamatic I didn't.

The first round coats are VERY LIGHT.  Almost just tinting the engine. 

5-10 minutes.  Second round is a LIGHT COATS going in Criss-cross pattern to even it all out smoothly.

5-10 minutes. Third round,  is LIGHT coats.  Standing back - just fogging the paint on.  To a nice, smooth, even, wet finish.

If you spray too heavy - wet - close - it will look like shit.  So stand back a few inches more than normal.

Let it dry. 

Pull the covers off and carefully wipe the gasket surfaces w paper towel and acetone or lacquer thinner.

Replace gaskets, seals along w replacing all the bolts w stainless steel coated with thread sealant.

Done.


Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: Luugo86 on Sep 30, 2018, 12:00:39
   Thanks a lot for taking the time to type up that run down man.. Much appreciated.. I never would have thought to use brake cleaner
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: trek97 on Sep 30, 2018, 12:05:39
   Thanks a lot for taking the time to type up that run down man.. Much appreciated.. I never would have thought to use brake cleaner

Your welcome bud,

Yeah it really blasts between fins.  Just dont get it into your eyes! 

Then the air compressor will really blow out all the mud wasps nests.

This engine was chock full of them.   ;) 
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: trek97 on Sep 30, 2018, 16:21:42
Now, you know, I couldn't not try the headers..

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-300918141731-44572395.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-300918141730-4456778.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-300918141730-44551938.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-300918141731-4458525.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: farmer92 on Sep 30, 2018, 17:44:32
Now, you know, I couldn't not try the headers..

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-300918141731-44572395.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-300918141730-4456778.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-300918141730-44551938.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-300918141731-4458525.jpeg)

Oh i so love those headers!
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: CrabsAndCylinders on Sep 30, 2018, 18:05:43
Fantastic work!  Thanks for the tips.  :)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: Luugo86 on Sep 30, 2018, 19:28:29
 Looks great man.. are you going to powdercoat the frame?
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: trek97 on Sep 30, 2018, 20:25:40
Oh i so love those headers!

They starting to grow on me.ĒĒ

Fantastic work!  Thanks for the tips.  :)

Thanks so much bro.  And youíre sure welcome.

Looks great man.. are you going to powdercoat the frame?

Thanks dude.  and no not gonna powder.  Scroll back a few pages . 
I worked hard to make a nice frame look crappy like that.   ;D
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: Luugo86 on Sep 30, 2018, 20:54:43
Haha... ya I need to start from the beginning of the thread lol
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: trek97 on Sep 30, 2018, 22:26:31
Haha... ya I need to start from the beginning of the thread lol

Or halfway...here ya go...
http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=75640.msg908773#msg908773
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: cookiemech on Oct 01, 2018, 10:25:16
Those headers are gorgeous!
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Oct 01, 2018, 11:31:13
My man, you are doing this thing right.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: trek97 on Oct 01, 2018, 22:40:44
My man, you are doing this thing right.

Thanks bro,  Im doing the best I can w what I got.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: irk miller on Oct 02, 2018, 00:01:23
That is a pretty incredible motor and exhaust you have there, my friend.  Amazing.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: trek97 on Oct 02, 2018, 11:39:45
That is a pretty incredible motor and exhaust you have there, my friend.  Amazing.

Thanks brother, and thanks for turning me onto the Marbles paint.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: trek97 on Oct 03, 2018, 19:44:10
Well, this aint good looking.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-031018174301.png)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: farmer92 on Oct 03, 2018, 19:52:21
Just some O-rings, canít those be replaced by some generic ones of the same approximate size? Or are they some special material?
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: trek97 on Oct 03, 2018, 21:21:14
Just some O-rings, canít those be replaced by some generic ones of the same approximate size? Or are they some special material?

Probably me being too particular, as usual.   ::)

Honda O-rings are probably Buna-N.  ;)

I prefer to stay away from Buna-N, only good up to 200-250 degrees. 

I ordered a couple packs/sizes Viton Flouroelastomer super resilient, 400 degrees, from McMaster-Carr  (thanks IRK  :D )

they are a "close" fit for the Bastard sized, 16.5x2mm Honda discontinued Oil Pickup O-ring.  Of course.

I will just have to fit the best one, (and pray it dont suck air).

They run $5-$10 a pack.  And that will add up fast to replace them all.   
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: trek97 on Oct 03, 2018, 21:31:02
Anyways, while I patiently wait for Honda dealer parts dept to pull off another miracle.

I got plenty to do. 

Ready for some new seals, O-rings, gaskets, clean up threads, re-torque head, adjust valves, static timing

And I got all three engine bolt kits to install.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-031018191023.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-290918134854-4442525.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: trek97 on Oct 03, 2018, 21:33:53
Things may slow up a tad, as Rachel and I just discovered "Americas Got Talent" on Hulu.   ;D
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: trek97 on Oct 04, 2018, 18:59:12
Twixed Honda parts miracle and McMasters I now have ALL the O-rings needed.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-041018165735.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: trek97 on Oct 06, 2018, 19:12:20
Read a couple horror stories about 400-fours old starter O-rings breaking and dumping oil everywhere...

Fresh.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-061018165844-44631235.jpeg)

And this is going to speed up the plan of re-building the spare engine.

This morning I pulled the kickstarter out for inspection and found the support cracked.    :P

I then checked the spare engine and found its good.  :)

Rather than mess around swapping cases I will start the rebuild on the spare asap this spring.

Then, If I cant find a suitable replacement, send this one to Hurco for repairs next winter. 

Ill bump start the thing before I kick it anyways.  As my old knees cant take kickstarting anything more than Piglet anyways.   :(

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-061018165845-44731465.jpeg)
(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-061018165845-44741503.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, Do it right or dont do it.
Post by: trek97 on Oct 06, 2018, 23:07:23
OK the thought of HALF ASSING a project (even temporarily) drove me nuts all day...

So now this matched pair is on its way. 

"Do it KINDA right or Dont do it at all".  Only if I have too.   ;)

Ill pull the engine back out of the frame tomorrow and prep for the swap.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-061018210235.png)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: trek97 on Oct 07, 2018, 12:07:38
So now its back to spoke polishing until new piston rings, cases, etc etc etc arrives.   :P

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-071018100530.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: pidjones on Oct 07, 2018, 17:32:08
Ah, excitement!
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A 1975 400-four
Post by: trek97 on Oct 07, 2018, 23:17:12
Ah, excitement!

Exactly.   :P
Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: trek97 on Oct 08, 2018, 11:07:17
Stayed up too late finishing rear wheel.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-081018090137-4475421.jpeg)

In no mood to go to work today, staying home and this IS happening right now...

CARB DAY!!!  HOORAY!!!
(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-081018090137-44891124.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: trek97 on Oct 08, 2018, 14:37:45
Tools of the trade

The mix adjusters were set twixed 1-3/4 and 2-1/2 turns from bottom.  Still w factory plastic caps.   8)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-081018122816-44901261.jpeg)

Thank goodness.  Not too bad at all.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-081018122816-44911218.jpeg)

W heat gun and penetrant they came apart really nice.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-081018122816-4492907.jpeg)

Brass, tops and bowls soaking in Chem dip, stirring around a few times to help remove trapped air.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-081018122816-44941144.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-081018122816-44941144.jpeg)

Bodies in Heated Ultrasonic w Pinesol, water rinse, compressed air, carb cleaner, compressed air then penetrant.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-081018122816-44952160.jpeg)

Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: irk miller on Oct 08, 2018, 15:20:54
Just an fyi if you really feel frisky:

There are throttle shaft seals...

(http://i.imgur.com/pj0R7zt.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/IEMChw6.jpg)

On 1 and 4, they are felt.  2 and 3 are rubber.

The choke also has felt seals.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: trek97 on Oct 08, 2018, 15:37:36
Just an fyi if you really feel frisky:

There are throttle shaft seals...

On 1 and 4, they are felt.  2 and 3 are rubber.

The choke also has felt seals.

Im not going that deep...yet.  Hopefully the sonic wonder has done its job.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-081018133043-44971399.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-081018133043-44982415.jpeg)

Rinsed-dried-rinsed-dried-oiled.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-081018133043-44991551.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-081018133043-4500255.jpeg)

All the brass is gonna soak while I have lunch and a nap.   8)


Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: trek97 on Oct 08, 2018, 19:22:47
Brass and Bowls came out of the chem dip as good as I knew it would.

So just for interest, finishing them off in the ultrasonic machine.

Curious to see how it handles the stuck on bits of gaskets.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: Luugo86 on Oct 08, 2018, 19:28:32
That's a serious Ultrasonic cleaner dude... carb rack looks good
Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: trek97 on Oct 08, 2018, 19:37:23
That's a serious Ultrasonic cleaner dude... carb rack looks good

Mines 15 liter $150.00 on ebay.  And they got a 22 ltr for $210.00

It works awesome, Temp heats up to 175F / 80C if you preheat. 

Mine hit 122F in the 30 minutes it ran. 

Link... https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-3L-2L-3L-6L-10L-15L-22L-30L-Ultrasonic-Cleaners-Supplies-Jewelry/121807207955?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=420796897845&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: trek97 on Oct 08, 2018, 20:57:11
The sonic softened the gaskets but it to the Dremel to finish them,

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-081018185418-45012293.jpeg)

Its just freaky to me, how they could possibly drill these in a mass production environment.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-081018185418-45021078.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: irk miller on Oct 08, 2018, 21:28:00
Ask Kiley about having to make an emulsion tube this weekend for Jason's XS, since it didn't have one in one of the carbs.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: trek97 on Oct 08, 2018, 21:30:48
Ask Kiley about having to make an emulsion tube this weekend for Jason's XS, since it didn't have one in one of the carbs.

OMG hahah. Oops.  And What, Like the worlds largest swap meet and he couldn't find a one???   ::)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: canyoncarver on Oct 08, 2018, 21:32:30
How loud is the ultrasonic cleaner?  Just curious..
Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: irk miller on Oct 08, 2018, 21:35:49
As fuck.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: trek97 on Oct 08, 2018, 21:38:01
How loud is the ultrasonic cleaner?  Just curious..

All but silent.  Maybe like the same as a box fan running.  Just a low buzzing hum in the background of Pandora.

honestly I was surprised.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: trek97 on Oct 08, 2018, 21:40:08
As fuck.

LOLOLOL. Yes Kelly its Loud like a Fire Engine crashing into a Freight train crashing into a 747.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: irk miller on Oct 08, 2018, 21:43:24
OMG hahah. Oops.  And What, Like the worlds largest swap meet and he couldn't find a one???   ::)
Takes less time to make one.  A needle in a haystack at a swap meet.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: trek97 on Oct 08, 2018, 21:47:45
Cleaned up nice and going to re-use all the original brass...except, of course the new float needles will go in, as the old springs are mushy.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-081018193546-450434.jpeg)

MAYBE the float needle seats too.  If I do use them I will try to polish the needle seats up nice.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-081018193546-4503944.jpeg)

Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: trek97 on Oct 08, 2018, 21:59:23
I do have to use the new float needle seats. 

There is a 1/10mm difference in O-ring groove diameter.

Probably Keihin use some bastard size and the new one uses off the shelf.

 >:(
Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: pidjones on Oct 08, 2018, 21:59:46
You should hold on to the old float needles and seats if they are original. Just in case, you know.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: trek97 on Oct 08, 2018, 22:05:11
You should hold on to the old float needles and seats if they are original. Just in case, you know.

Oh yeah, I hang onto everything. 

 its looking like the main #75 needle seats are going to go the same way too.

Ill see if Honda still offers the original sized O-rings for this stuff.   >:(
Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: trek97 on Oct 08, 2018, 22:13:25
The O-ring kits are available from Honda.

But its not the original part number.   (new Honda parts are probably the same as what I already got)

So Im gonna stick w what I got here, until I run into issues w tuning.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: trek97 on Oct 10, 2018, 08:50:52
Slides and needles look good

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-101018064719-45052290.jpeg)

Float valve seat springs in correctly.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-101018064719-45072095.jpeg)

Overflow tubes inspected for cracks.  Dont need a repeat of the Hondamatic experience.   :P

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-101018064719-45081882.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Oct 10, 2018, 15:17:31
Let me know if you need any carb parts. I have a box full of pieces from my 350.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: trek97 on Oct 10, 2018, 18:26:28
Let me know if you need any carb parts. I have a box full of pieces from my 350.

Thanks bud, everything here appears to be in good condition.   But if I do Iíll get ahold of you.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: teazer on Oct 10, 2018, 19:37:54
If those carbs have the same 6mm x .75 thread on the float bowl drain screws as most other Hondas of that period, you can use vacuum adapters to check fuel level.  CrazyPJ sells them as vacuum adapters for CB360s but I just found out that they also work fine for checking fuel levels on Suzuki GT550s and early GT750s as well as CB750 SOHC and CB77 and 160s
Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: canyoncarver on Oct 10, 2018, 20:02:04
LOLOLOL. Yes Kelly its Loud like a Fire Engine crashing into a Freight train crashing into a 747.

Ha!
Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: trek97 on Oct 10, 2018, 22:35:21
If those carbs have the same 6mm x .75 thread on the float bowl drain screws as most other Hondas of that period, you can use vacuum adapters to check fuel level.  CrazyPJ sells them as vacuum adapters for CB360s but I just found out that they also work fine for checking fuel levels on Suzuki GT550s and early GT750s as well as CB750 SOHC and CB77 and 160s

I will check into that.  I was thinking about figuring out how to make an external fuel level "Thingy".  8)

THANKS!!!!
Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: trek97 on Oct 10, 2018, 22:44:20
I was gonna swap in new mix adjusters...NOT!!!

As I Threaded in the first NEW one, it popped back out a couple threads under the spring pressure!!!

Measuring external threads...

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-101018203230-45111486.jpeg)

Originals...

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-101018203230-4510463.jpeg)

Floats straightened and squared up pretty nice.  Set to 20mm.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-101018203230-45091652.jpeg)

Complete w factory plastic caps on mix adjusters and SS hardware.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-101018203230-4512203.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-101018203230-45131460.jpeg)

Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: irk miller on Oct 10, 2018, 22:57:51
Anyone ever told you how you have no business building a rat rod, because you do such an amazing job restoring things?  Just curious.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: trek97 on Oct 10, 2018, 23:00:59
Anyone ever told you how you have no business building a rat rod, because you do such an amazing job restoring things?  Just curious.

You honor me Papasan.   :)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, HOORAY its CARB DAY!!!
Post by: trek97 on Oct 10, 2018, 23:02:05
Perfect fit Teazer....Thanks!!!   :)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-101018205628.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A New Hope.
Post by: trek97 on Oct 12, 2018, 11:41:01
The arrival...

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-121018093659-45141082.jpeg)

Ohh how I hates me some peanuts.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-121018093659-45161262.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-121018093659-45171649.jpeg)

Gave it the quick once over, no broken bolts, gasket/baearing surfaces look good and NO CRACKS!!!   8)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-121018093659-45181703.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A New Hope.
Post by: advCo on Oct 12, 2018, 11:50:36
What did I miss here?

Title: Re: The Black Knight, A New Hope.
Post by: irk miller on Oct 12, 2018, 11:55:07
That's the case for a race motor.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A New Hope.
Post by: Hurco550 on Oct 12, 2018, 12:45:47
What did I miss here?

its not a rat rod anymore.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A New Hope.
Post by: advCo on Oct 12, 2018, 13:02:06
its not a rat rod anymore.

That happened on page 2
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A New Hope.
Post by: Hurco550 on Oct 12, 2018, 13:09:50
That happened on page 2

He is collecting every cb400 engine this side of the mississippi
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A New Hope.
Post by: trek97 on Oct 12, 2018, 14:31:35
He is collecting every cb400 engine this side of the mississippi

Ha silly boy, 2 of the 3 came from WEST of the Mississippi.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A New Hope.
Post by: Hurco550 on Oct 12, 2018, 14:36:12
Ha silly boy, 2 of the 3 came from WEST of the Mississippi.

ha my bad... he's collecting ALL THE cb 400 engine.....
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A New Hope.
Post by: trek97 on Oct 12, 2018, 14:57:40
its not a rat rod anymore.
That happened on page 2

ITS STILL A RAT ROD, DAG NABBIT!!!  Im just having a really hard time keeping it that way.

New things showing up...

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-121018124150.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-121018125618-45191224.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A New Hope.
Post by: ridesolo on Oct 12, 2018, 18:51:12
ITS STILL A RAT ROD, DAG NABBIT!!!  Im just having a really hard time keeping it that way.   

Dude, you aren't fooling anybody.  You now have extra engines and Hurco has that there fancy weldin' machine you're gunna join all them engines together and make a 12 cylinder, 1200cc, hard-tail, rat rod, thingie monstrosity.   
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A New Hope.
Post by: Brodie on Oct 12, 2018, 19:35:57
Or a Honda square eight!

Ariel ain't got nothin...
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A New Hope.
Post by: trek97 on Oct 12, 2018, 19:44:21
(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-121018174256.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A New Hope.
Post by: trek97 on Oct 12, 2018, 19:47:43
Or a Honda square eight!

Ariel ain't got nothin...
Dude, you aren't fooling anybody.  You now have extra engines and Hurco has that there fancy weldin' machine you're gunna join all them engines together and make a 12 cylinder, 1200cc, hard-tail, rat rod, thingie monstrosity.   

Haha never thought of that!!!  No my next build will be a 400four,  but its gonna be a while down the road before I start it.

This one here is quickly breaking the bank.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A New Hope.
Post by: trek97 on Oct 13, 2018, 08:31:40
The Dremel wire wheel fit perfectly inside the brake lever pivot.  Easy work, a smear of lube and done.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-131018062503-45221537.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-131018062503-45281114.jpeg)

rear hub cleaned up nice too.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-131018062503-4529889.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-131018062503-45302431.jpeg)

Nice and shitty.  I like it.   ;D

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-131018062504-4531277.jpeg)

Fresh controls and front brake going in next.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-131018063330.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A New Hope.
Post by: Brodie on Oct 13, 2018, 08:56:40
Rat rodding well there. Shiney and working properly where it counts.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A New Hope.
Post by: trek97 on Oct 13, 2018, 09:03:34
Rat rodding well there. Shiney and working properly where it counts.

See there now "You" know how to lift a guy up and encourage him to work hard on the shitty-ness.

Not like those other Buttholes. 

Thank you for that.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A New Hope.
Post by: Hurco550 on Oct 13, 2018, 10:04:23


See there now "You" know how to lift a guy up and encourage him to work hard on the shitty-ness.

Not like those other Buttholes. 

Ok ok I'm sorry...


This thing looks HORRIBLE! Probably the WORST thing I've ever seen. I wretch just looking at it.


Better? Lol

Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk

Title: Black Knight, The - I love you bro - build
Post by: trek97 on Oct 13, 2018, 10:56:02

This thing looks HORRIBLE! Probably the WORST thing I've ever seen. I wretch just looking at it.


(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-131018085523.png)

Title: Re: The Black Knight, A New Hope.
Post by: ridesolo on Oct 13, 2018, 14:07:21
See there now "You" know how to lift a guy up and encourage him to work hard on the shitty-ness.

Not like those other Buttholes. 

Yeah, ok... so, have you got this piece of crap done yet?  Come on loser, shag your ass and get moving.  No more bourbon for you until it's completely done, and don't even THINK of firing up a cigar!

(There, is that better?  Dang, some of these people are so sensitive!)
Title: Re: Black Knight, The - I love you bro, build
Post by: irk miller on Oct 13, 2018, 14:31:47
I just wanted to see the best motorcycle restorer I know personally restore my favorite Honda.  If that makes me a butthole, I will proudly accept that descriptor and exit stage left, because meticulously polishing every single spoke and Hobby Lobby fake rust together makes perfect sense. 
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A New Hope.
Post by: trek97 on Oct 13, 2018, 15:09:17
Yeah, ok... so, have you got this piece of crap done yet?  Come on loser, shag your ass and get moving.  No more bourbon for you until it's completely done, and don't even THINK of firing up a cigar!

(There, is that better?  Dang, some of these people are so sensitive!)


hahahaha,  except the "Loser" part kinda hurts.   ;)
Title: Re: Black Knight, The - I love you bro, build
Post by: trek97 on Oct 13, 2018, 15:23:01
I just wanted to see the best motorcycle restorer I know personally restore my favorite Honda.  If that makes me a butthole, I will proudly accept that descriptor and exit stage left, because meticulously polishing every single spoke and Hobby Lobby fake rust together makes perfect sense.

Nobody is a butthole.  lol 

I thought you, most of all, would embrace that its a sculpture. 

A sculpture that will go 100+mph.  :). #itsartmotherfucker

Title: Re: Black Knight, The - I love you bro, build
Post by: trek97 on Oct 13, 2018, 16:01:36
Sometimes its more fun to have fun.
Title: Re: The Black Knight, A New Hope.
Post by: ridesolo on Oct 13, 2018, 20:57:47
hahahaha,  except the "Loser" part kinda hurts.   ;)

I rest my case; SENSITIVE

 :D

Title: Re: The Black Knight, A New Hope.
Post by: trek97 on Oct 13, 2018, 22:45:06
I rest my case; SENSITIVE

 :D



 ;D
Title: Re: Black Knight, The Battle of the Brake rages on...
Post by: trek97 on Oct 14, 2018, 10:24:40
With the "NEVER GIVE UP" attitude the Black Knight is famous for, the battle rages on...

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-141018075722.png)

This "looks" like it should pivot...It dont.   :P

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-141018074808-45321031.jpeg)

Lots of time and effort, penetrant and heat gun and slowly working it to start twisting...its freed.

O-rings...ARGH!

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-141018074808-45351839.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-141018074910-45421154.png)

HOORAY...Still available from local Honda dealer.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-141018074910-45432027.png)

20 minutes spent boiling penetrant w heat gun, pounding and careful twisting.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-141018074808-4536970.jpeg)

It finally gives...just a little.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-141018074808-45372109.jpeg)

After another hour of boiling, penetrant, twisting and pounding...repeat..repeat, etc etc

Surprised the penetrant never did make it all the way to the center.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-141018074808-45381834.jpeg)

Cleaning w an old brass bore brush and brass wheel.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-141018074809-45392128.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-141018074809-4540957.jpeg)

Ready and waiting for o-rings and grease.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-141018074809-4541173.jpeg)




Title: Re: Black Knight, The Battle of the Brake rages on...
Post by: Brodie on Oct 14, 2018, 10:27:08
Might pay to tap and add a grease nipple. Function before form.
Title: Re: Black Knight, The Battle of the Brake rages on...
Post by: trek97 on Oct 14, 2018, 10:42:18
Might pay to tap and add a grease nipple. Function before form.

I was just thinking that myself.  THANKS

With great success, I did do just that w the BMWs clutch lever.

It has tiny needle bearings and is virtually un-servicable without a huge teardown.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-141018083856-45442431.png)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-141018083856-45461108.png)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-141018083857-45472238.png)
Title: Re: Black Knight, The Battle of the Brake rages on...
Post by: trek97 on Oct 14, 2018, 12:38:50
Thanks Brodie, for the inspiration to actually make it better for myself.

Otherwise, I just woulda sat here "thinking" how it would be good idea.   ::)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-141018102912-4548777.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-141018102912-45491405.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-141018102912-45502425.jpeg)

Long as the drill and taps handy, this happened at the rear brake pivot.

Had to grind a couple threads off zerk.  AND clean up a bit w rat tail.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-141018102913-4551236.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-141018102913-45522371.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-141018102913-4553392.jpeg)

Title: Re: Black Knight, The Battle of the Brake rages on...
Post by: Brodie on Oct 14, 2018, 18:17:24
Rad.
Title: Re: Black Knight, The Battle of the Brake rages on...
Post by: pidjones on Oct 14, 2018, 18:20:22
And I continue to contend that a rat bike (or rod) should FUNCTION very well. To hell with appearance. You are definitely doing this right!
Title: Re: Black Knight, The Battle of the Brake rages on...
Post by: trek97 on Oct 14, 2018, 18:27:00
Rad.

Thanks so much dude.

And I continue to contend that a rat bike (or rod) should FUNCTION very well. To hell with appearance. You are definitely doing this right!

Thanks bud, Oh and reading your last post you mentioned adding fork oil.  I want to thank you for the reminder....need to do that myself before I forget.   ;D
Title: Re: Black Knight, The Battle of the Brake rages on...
Post by: pidjones on Oct 14, 2018, 18:32:31
Thanks so much dude.

Thanks bud, Oh and reading your last post you mentioned adding fork oil.  I want to thank you for the reminder....need to do that myself before I forget.   ;D
Aw, but just a bit ago I remembered that I haven't put o-rings on the top plugs yet. THAT would have been messy!
Title: Re: Black Knight, The Battle of the Brake rages on...
Post by: trek97 on Oct 14, 2018, 18:35:12
Aw, but just a bit ago I remembered that I haven't put o-rings on the top plugs yet. THAT would have been messy!

This is too funny.  I got to get my o-rings on also.  hahaha

Rachel just said "Its like were working together in one garage". ha I wish.
Title: Re: Black Knight, The Battle of the Brake rages on...
Post by: trek97 on Oct 14, 2018, 18:38:24
Only problem...you probably wouldn't care too much for my Pandora shuffle playlist.

hahahaha
Title: Re: Black Knight, The Battle of the Brake rages on...
Post by: pidjones on Oct 14, 2018, 18:53:06
Only problem...you probably wouldn't care too much for my Pandora shuffle playlist.

hahahaha
Not if it has much newer than 1980.
Title: Re: Black Knight, The Battle of the Brake rages on...
Post by: trek97 on Oct 14, 2018, 19:14:02
Johnny Cash, Gordon Lightfoot, Mamas & Papas, Led Zep, Platters, Doors, Black Sabbath, Fleetwood Mac, 50s Rock & Roll, 60s Folk, Carpenters, John Denver...etc

But then Lindsay Stirling, Die Antwoord, Lords of Acid, Devo, Halsey, RATM, Lilly Allen, Marilyn Manson, Beastie Boys, Rob Zombie, Lana Del Rey...etc etc etc

Never know whats next, thats fo sho. 
Title: Re: Black Knight, The Battle of the Brake rages on...
Post by: trek97 on Oct 14, 2018, 19:19:04
Or you can pick Rachels complete playlist...

Justin Timberlake radio...period, thats the only thing she's got.  OMG  LOLOL. Its freaking terrible.

But she is well aware when I walk into the garage...Thats the first thing that gets changed.
Title: Re: Black Knight, The Battle of the Brake rages on...
Post by: pidjones on Oct 14, 2018, 20:33:53
I've got a folder of Dean Martin, Carole King, and Frank Sinatra on my GoldWing. Also my favorite 2 guitarists - Chet Atkins and Les Paul on another folder.  But then another folder ranges from Rick Wakeman to Classical to show tunes. I was pretty lucky in the 70's - spent 50% of the disco era under water. The sub had one channel on the ship's entertainment system that was all Wayne Newton, however. Irks my wife that I like to listen to news (not talk) radio at times.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Devil in the Details
Post by: trek97 on Oct 15, 2018, 21:05:00
A few weeks ago I received the new Hagon shocks. 

I was a bit disappointed that they came w cheapy looking collets and they really dont fit as nice as they could.   :P

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-151018183249-45571769.jpeg)

The collets on the older 360 shocks are cast w Hagon incorporated into them w black plastic insulators to finish with a nice fit.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-151018183249-45561483.jpeg)

So, I sent an email to Hagon.uk asking about this change in collets and if the old style were still available.

A salesman named Dave promptly e-mailed me back. 

Saying "Hagon discontinued the old style cast collets as they didn't work as well w the inverted dirt bike shocks as the new collets.  However, he would look around and see if he could dig up a set."

Imagine my surprise...a couple weeks later a set of cast collets complete w insulators arrived in my mailbox.  AND at NO CHARGE.

AWESOME CUSTOMER SERVICE!!!   8)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-151018183249-45582277.jpeg)

I looked into making a compressor myself...I ordered a cheapy and hopefully SAFER one from Amazon.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-151018184925.png)

The compressors are actually really nice quality.  Small and dont take up much space in the toolbox.

Stainless bodies they come w extra pairs of plastic jaw liners and a nice steel storage box.

I added some small pieces of leather to further insulate the painted shock bodies.

And worked slick.   :)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-151018183249-45601297.jpeg)

and VIOLA!  Just a little detail that makes me happy.   ::)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-151018183250-4561846.jpeg)





Title: Re: Black Knight, Devil in the Details
Post by: trek97 on Oct 15, 2018, 21:18:50
I was really hoping to get a good start on the rebuild this weekend.

I ordered the updated aluminum cam chain tensioner arm, slipper/tensioner blades and cam chain...

This is what I get from David Silvers spares...Aarrrgh.   :(

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-151018191600.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Devil in the Details
Post by: irk miller on Oct 15, 2018, 22:14:59
Oh man.  That's a shame.  What's on backorder?  Is it something you can cancel and order from someone else?
Title: Re: Black Knight, Devil in the Details
Post by: trek97 on Oct 15, 2018, 23:26:26
I could contact them to find out what it is.

However, the chain and blades Im getting are Genuine Honda.

4into1 only has replica stuff, they do carry the upgraded tension arm...out of stock on that.

Hoping DSS will come through pretty quick.

And I still have stuff I can do...like clean gasket surfaces.   ::)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Devil in the Details
Post by: trek97 on Oct 15, 2018, 23:39:43
And besides the only real deadline for the build is,

Me wanting to hear it with the Supertrapp.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Devil in the Details
Post by: trek97 on Oct 17, 2018, 19:23:28
Looks like my David Silvers order has shipped.

Fingers crossed its here Saturday.   :)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Devil in the Details
Post by: trek97 on Oct 18, 2018, 14:02:35
Some asshole expedited this to me for the rebuild... ;)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-181018120104.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Devil in the Details
Post by: irk miller on Oct 18, 2018, 14:03:37
Total douchebag.

Title: Re: Black Knight, Devil in the Details
Post by: trek97 on Oct 18, 2018, 14:06:31
Total douchebag.

Well, I don't know if I would go THAT far.   ;D
Title: Re: Black Knight, Devil in the Details
Post by: trek97 on Oct 18, 2018, 20:23:45
Short of burning down the whole garage I tried everything to free the bolts from the case.

A lot of penetrant, heat gun, electric impact then moved onto torch and impact driver!

I dont really need to break anything here.   :P

I got all but three.  Just working around them. 

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-181018181006-45672352.jpeg)

This job is big for the little Dremel scotchbrite pads.

Irk recommended these Roloc wheels.  Yes they work very well.   8) Thanks bro.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-181018181006-45621865.jpeg)

After Rolock wheel, then Dremel, then 0000 steel wool and lacquer thinner.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-181018181006-45681010.jpeg)

I still have to do a lot of cleaning before the halves are ready.

Since I had steel wool and thinner handy I went ahead and "gently" swabbed the old Hondabond off sealing surfaces.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-181018181006-45692206.jpeg)

Title: Re: Black Knight, Devil in the Details
Post by: Luugo86 on Oct 18, 2018, 20:33:48
Damn nice... what material are those wheels made of ?
Title: Re: Black Knight, Devil in the Details
Post by: trek97 on Oct 18, 2018, 20:56:22
Damn nice... what material are those wheels made of ?

Its like a 120 grit plastic they are pretty flexible and pretty tough lasting. 

They also come in 80, 50, 36 grits.  1, 2 and 3 inch.  Im using the 2 inch 120 grit.

https://www.amazon.com/s/?keywords=3m%20roloc%20bristle%20disc%20white
Title: Re: Black Knight, Devil in the Details
Post by: trek97 on Oct 18, 2018, 21:16:42
Im just wishing they would fit inside the ultrasonic cleaner. 

Had I spent another $50 I coulda got the 22 liter and then it would have fit.  LOL.  ::)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Hot Pine-Sol in the morning
Post by: trek97 on Oct 20, 2018, 09:04:11
Yep, shoulda-woulda-coulda bought the 22 or the 30 liter unit.

But w some flipping flopping and swapping I should be able to get pert near the whole thing done.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-201018070038.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Hot Pine-Sol in the morning
Post by: Brodie on Oct 20, 2018, 09:08:17
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/840/285/5e7.gif)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Hot Pine-Sol in the morning
Post by: trek97 on Oct 20, 2018, 09:11:44
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/840/285/5e7.gif)

HAHAHA. Yes, just like that.  ;D
Title: Re: Black Knight, Hot Pine-Sol in the morning
Post by: trek97 on Oct 20, 2018, 09:37:59
Saving me from myself...I had the garage doors open.

But, Rachel made me move the whole production outdoors.   ;)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-201018073450-4570893.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-201018073450-45731311.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Hot Pine-Sol in the morning
Post by: trek97 on Oct 20, 2018, 11:40:46
Feels like there is no end to this necessary evil.

I like clean threads...Just Not a big fan of "cleaning" threads.   :P

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-201018093829.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Hot Pine-Sol in the morning
Post by: Brodie on Oct 20, 2018, 13:14:48
How good are those ratchet type tap holders, a fitter at work as one and it is magic for chasing threads.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Hot Pine-Sol in the morning
Post by: trek97 on Oct 20, 2018, 13:50:05
How good are those ratchet type tap holders, a fitter at work as one and it is magic for chasing threads.

I love them!!!   

I would prefer to use the drill for this.  But Im afraid of getting it cross threaded in the aluminum.

So it gets a hand job.   ;)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Hot Pine-Sol in the morning
Post by: trek97 on Oct 20, 2018, 13:52:29
Silvers spares FTW!   8)

Improved aluminum tensioner arm, w fresh Chain and Guides. 

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-201018114702.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Hot Pine-Sol in the morning
Post by: trek97 on Oct 20, 2018, 16:33:23
The improved tensioner arm was advised to me by Kanticoy. 

If anyone else has any advise, tips or tricks to this engine building stuff.

Notices Im doing something wrong or whatever...

Please, speak up, cause I aint no expert at this motorbike stuff. 

compared w a lot of you guys Im definitley a newb.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Hot Pine-Sol in the morning
Post by: Brodie on Oct 20, 2018, 18:32:23
Says the guy who makes sure even the o-rings are correct.

Keep up the good work. Maybe look at shaving the head some and getting the squish band set. Little bit more compression for your rat rod engine.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Not a speck of dust.
Post by: trek97 on Oct 20, 2018, 19:48:18
shaving the head some and getting the squish band set.

I didn't realize you spoke Chinese.   ;)

For what its worth, I do know how to clean stuff.

After finishing all the threads and more cleaning...

I believe Im finally ready to get this job underway...I hope.   ::)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-201018174439.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Not a speck of dust.
Post by: pidjones on Oct 20, 2018, 20:34:10
I spot your Workmate. Does any shop have enough horizontal surfaces?
Title: Re: Black Knight, Not a speck of dust.
Post by: trek97 on Oct 20, 2018, 21:39:24
I spot your Workmate. Does any shop have enough horizontal surfaces?

Yes, its just mine always end up buried under a bunch of crap.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Not a speck of dust.
Post by: Popeye SXM on Oct 20, 2018, 22:02:10
Quote
its just mine always end up buried under a bunch of crap.
Ha ha, mine seem to attract clutter so fast I'm beginning to believe I share my shop ;D
Great work
Title: Re: Black Knight, Not a speck of dust.
Post by: trek97 on Oct 21, 2018, 04:17:10
Ha ha, mine seem to attract clutter so fast I'm beginning to believe I share my shop ;D
Great work

Thanks bud, and Yes its funny...

The cleaner the "Task at hand requires = the messier my garage gets"  ;D

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-211018021430.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Not a speck of dust.
Post by: trek97 on Oct 21, 2018, 12:53:57
Hey Brodie I did some looking for my tap handles.  Cause they make cheap copies that look the same.

Mine are Schroder 40070, made in Germany.
https://www.amazon.com/Schroder-4-007-0-Ratcheting-2-Inch-16-Inch/dp/B001DZC9YG/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1540136845&sr=1-1-fkmr0&keywords=Schroder+40070

they also make a smaller size/. But I lost mine years ago.
Title: Re: Black Knight, FREE Yule log video
Post by: trek97 on Oct 21, 2018, 19:47:41
As per the workshop manual, I pulled the head cover and head

So Nice the head gasket came off in one clean piece.   8)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-211018172645-45821240.jpeg)

The jugs were stuck fast. 

Kanticoy offered up a neat trick. 

W center pistons at BDC pour an inch of alcohol and light them a blaze, as soon as it burns out.  Give them a good smack.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-211018172644-45811057.jpeg)

For DOUBLE BONUS POINTS I also made a Christmas morning Yule Log video!   ;D

https://youtu.be/S0_rerU_Ymw

And it worked like a charm.   :)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-211018172644-4579446.jpeg)

The kids called and invited us out to lunch, then a visit to the Reindeer Ranch and Maze.

It was a fun time.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-211018172644-4580592.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-211018172644-45742172.png)
Title: Re: Black Knight, FREE Yule log video
Post by: Brodie on Oct 22, 2018, 07:49:23
Thanks for the link. I am going to have to get some.

Nothing quite like setting your bike alight to relieve tension!
Title: Re: Black Knight, FREE Yule log video
Post by: trek97 on Oct 22, 2018, 10:21:38

Nothing quite like setting your bike alight to relieve tension!

I was getting pretty frustrated pounding on it w the 2 lb ball peen.

Then YES I lit it up and it popped free w just 4 good taps.

I laughed and felt much better.
Title: Re: Black Knight, FREE Yule log video
Post by: trek97 on Oct 22, 2018, 20:32:24
Just getting the garage tidied up and buttoning up a few odds and ends before I get too serious about the big job.

O-rings for the front brake pivot cam in...

So got it together and back in the box until Im ready for it.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-221018182951.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight, The time is now
Post by: trek97 on Oct 23, 2018, 19:40:33
The time is now.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-231018174001.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight, The time is now
Post by: Jimbonaut on Oct 23, 2018, 21:48:05
Holy mackerel. Youíre moving right along - gonna be fun playing catch up


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Title: Re: Black Knight, The time is now
Post by: trek97 on Oct 23, 2018, 22:16:36
Thank goodness...this plastigauge was terrifying for me. 

I had Rachel check all of them.  Best eyes.   ;)

found they're all between .038-.051   so within the big end of Factory Assembly Standard .018-.048

But well within the Service limit .08

 8)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-231018200958.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight, The time is now
Post by: trek97 on Oct 25, 2018, 08:58:03
(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-251018065424.jpeg)

During the teardown I found a bunch more O-rings.

So, I went through the parts fiche and between Honda-4into1-amazon-ebay

I am confident they are ALL en route now.
Title: Re: Black Knight, The time is now
Post by: advCo on Oct 25, 2018, 09:13:14
Next time, go here:

https://www.theoringstore.com/

May be a bit more work getting the measurements, but you can get extras and its way cheaper than buying them from part sources and fast shipping.

Buna-N 70D
Title: Re: Black Knight, The time is now
Post by: trek97 on Oct 26, 2018, 19:12:21
Next time, go here:

https://www.theoringstore.com/

May be a bit more work getting the measurements, but you can get extras and its way cheaper than buying them from part sources and fast shipping.

Buna-N 70D

Thanks bud,  added them to bookmarks.  I just really prefer to use the OEM stuff when I can get it and afford it.

Its just a kooky personal "thing" I have.   ;)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Novice Engine building
Post by: trek97 on Oct 27, 2018, 19:23:20
Well, I never claimed to be a crosshatch expert.  LOL. 

It looks funny in the pic and may be steep but its there.
 
(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-271018171711-45981614.jpeg)

Rings gap from .229 to .254.right in the middle of assembly specs.   8)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-271018171711-46001438.jpeg)

$7 tool made for easy work.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-271018171711-45991843.jpeg)

4 of the cutest little pistons you ever did see.  New rings and waiting for assembly.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-271018171712-4601400.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Novice Engine building
Post by: Brodie on Oct 27, 2018, 19:37:43
Looks good mate. You should clean up the cast marks in the ports while you have the head off.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Novice Engine building
Post by: trek97 on Oct 27, 2018, 19:55:08
Not 100% sure what you mean.  but if its it this.  Theres not a lot of ugly stuff in there.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-271018175351.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Novice Engine building
Post by: Brodie on Oct 27, 2018, 21:17:22
That's the one. Most people just clean up the ridge at the bottom of the picture. Helps with gas flow. I am by no means anywhere near knowledgeable on the topic.
I know there are minor improvements to be had by getting rid of rough spots and that super smooth is bad for intakes due to fuel pooling.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Novice Engine building
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Oct 27, 2018, 21:30:22
Yup get rid of that big rough line. I did the entire thing on my 350.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Race Bike!
Post by: trek97 on Oct 28, 2018, 15:20:47
(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-281018131955-46041359.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Race Bike!
Post by: Brodie on Oct 28, 2018, 15:29:58
Nice
Title: Re: Black Knight, Race Bike!
Post by: trek97 on Oct 28, 2018, 15:37:28
Nice

Thanks for the suggestion bro! 
Title: Re: Black Knight, Race Bike!
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Oct 28, 2018, 18:31:31
I would match the port to the intake boot while you are that far Ino it. I would do valve seals too.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Race Bike!
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Oct 28, 2018, 18:39:44
I'm no expert but I've been told the intake needs to be rough and the exhaust can be smooth almost to the point of polished. Also been told if you remove anything on the exhaust side to take it off the roof of the port. You can also remove material from the short side radius of the port. But without having a flow bench it's probably not worth the effort.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Race Bike!
Post by: trek97 on Oct 28, 2018, 19:41:56
I would match the port to the intake boot while you are that far Ino it. I would do valve seals too.

The intake ports and insulators are a perfect match from factory.

Im cleaning - lapping - new seals on valves as soon as my NEW spring compressor arrives.

A "buddy" borrowed my old NEW spring compressor and thats the end of that!!!

Not messing w exhaust ports.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Race Bike!
Post by: farmer92 on Oct 28, 2018, 20:14:17
A slightly rough surface will flow better than a perfectly smooth surface. (Think golf ball)
A polished surface will prevent carbon deposits.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Race Bike!
Post by: Brodie on Oct 28, 2018, 20:19:21
Yep. No need to mess with the ports. Just cleaning up the casting flaws and making the ports a uniform texture will help.

There is a whole world of port tuning if you want to go that way.
My suggestion was more of a "while you're there" improvement over stock. Like the grease nipples before.

Keep up the great work mate.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Race Bike!
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Oct 28, 2018, 20:21:47
I would love to be rich enough to buy a flow bench and just start trying stuff on old "junk" heads to see what works and what doesn't.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Race Bike!
Post by: trek97 on Oct 28, 2018, 21:19:19
(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-281018191744-46052404.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-281018191745-46062216.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-281018191745-46077.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Race Bike!
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Oct 28, 2018, 22:33:17
Boba Fett?
Title: Re: Black Knight, Race Bike!
Post by: trek97 on Oct 28, 2018, 23:39:36
Boba Fett?

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-200816163635.png)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Race Bike!
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Oct 29, 2018, 13:04:41
Heard they cancelled the Boba Fett movie.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Race Bike!
Post by: trek97 on Oct 29, 2018, 14:12:36
Heard they cancelled the Boba Fett movie.

I had never heard one was in the plans.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Race Bike!
Post by: irk miller on Oct 29, 2018, 14:51:17
I had never heard one was in the plans.
Yeah, basically the failure by Star Wars standards of Solo has Disney rethinking all the Star Wars universe films.  They will stick to running the Episodes and roll out the side films now and then, if ever at all. 
Title: Re: Black Knight, Race Bike!
Post by: advCo on Oct 29, 2018, 16:39:05
Yeah, basically the failure by Star Wars standards of Solo has Disney rethinking all the Star Wars universe films.  They will stick to running the Episodes and roll out the side films now and then, if ever at all.

Shame, I thought Rogue One was one of the better recent Star Wars films.

But then, too much of a good thing is...well not a good thing.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Race Bike!
Post by: trek97 on Oct 29, 2018, 17:35:52
Rogue one is certainly one of my faves. 

And Solo is fun to watch too.  I really enjoy Ron Howardís other films.  I think heís great.

But, IMO heís just not meant to direct a Star Wars film.

I am super delighted JJ Abrams will now be directing 9.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Race Bike!
Post by: trek97 on Nov 01, 2018, 19:51:14
New lapping tool didn't work worth crap.  It would just slide on the valve.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-011118174021-4611922.jpeg)

Knocked off the shiny w 400 grit and then it went much better, though still not great, just usable.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-011118174021-4612867.jpeg)

Started w #4 valves as they both leaked a little after sitting overnight. 

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-011118174021-46132126.jpeg)

Just cleaned them up minimally, After Irk strongly warned against the ease of cupping.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-011118174021-46152291.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-011118174021-46141905.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-011118174022-4616816.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-011118174022-46171530.jpeg)

Then I learned this is doing it wrong.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-011118174022-46181790.jpeg)

This is proper...

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-011118174022-46191165.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-011118174129.jpeg)

No leaks and so I continue w the rest.

Also, all the O-rings are on site.   :)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-011118174021-4608484.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Race Bike!
Post by: irk miller on Nov 01, 2018, 20:56:59
Looks great.  Love you.   ;)

I've spent hours f-ing with lapping valves only to watch them worse.  I learned once the color is consistent, and they look good and polished, they are usually good to go.  If it took too much effort, they ended up cupped and sat in the hole too much, and didn't seal (or got worse).  I've also bought in cheap for a bunch of thumper dirt bikes with scorched heads and burnt valves, so my perspective is probably skewed
Title: Re: Black Knight, Race Bike!
Post by: trek97 on Nov 01, 2018, 21:25:16
Thanks for everything my brother.

Even though sometimes your a pain in my butt and cause me extra work.

I really do learn a lot and you understand how important - to me - it is to do the best job I can do, w what I have.

You push my limits (  ;) and sometimes my buttons  ;)).

To be the best possible version of me.

I truly do appreciate your help, efforts and your time.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Race Bike!
Post by: trek97 on Nov 01, 2018, 21:41:38
OH and Irk I just checked tracking...that blue powder is sitting out in my mailbox.

Ill pick up a can of salt tomorrow.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Race Bike!
Post by: Brodie on Nov 01, 2018, 21:43:15
Have to be happy with that result.

So many orings. Bet they had fun picking them.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Race Bike!
Post by: trek97 on Nov 01, 2018, 21:44:39
Thanks bud, Happy, Yes because they no longer leak.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Race Bike!
Post by: irk miller on Nov 01, 2018, 22:48:31
OH and Irk I just checked tracking...that blue powder is sitting out in my mailbox.

Ill pick up a can of salt tomorrow.
Awesome!  Just text me with any questions or if you need any help. 
Title: Re: Black Knight, Ready to start assembly
Post by: trek97 on Nov 03, 2018, 11:45:09
Eight valves = zero leaks.  :)

Sat for about 15 minutes per side filled w alcohol.

Now, pulling them all out again to finish cleaning carbon deposits, clear out alcohol, lube stems and install guide seals.   :P

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-031118094009-462054.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-031118094009-46221419.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Ready to start assembly
Post by: irk miller on Nov 03, 2018, 12:15:23
Proper!
Title: Re: Black Knight, Ready to start assembly
Post by: pidjones on Nov 07, 2018, 10:32:19
I've found isopropyl to be good at loosening/softening deposits, too.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Ready to start assembly
Post by: trek97 on Nov 07, 2018, 14:27:26
I've found isopropyl to be good at loosening/softening deposits, too.

I believe youíre right.  No longer than mine sat.  Some seemed a bit softer.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Ready to start assembly
Post by: advCo on Nov 07, 2018, 15:39:44
Good work bud.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Migration
Post by: trek97 on Nov 10, 2018, 16:15:56
Good work bud.

Thanks man

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-101118140334-4644134.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-101118140334-46452348.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-101118140334-46471235.jpeg)

 :). Pleased to see all the shift forks are within factory assembly specs

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-101118140334-4646701.jpeg)

Taking a coffee break while hondabond "dries" before installing bearings.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-101118140334-46481648.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Migration
Post by: trek97 on Nov 11, 2018, 00:52:12
A long day.

Tried something new as per Kanticoy.

To help ensure no jacked up rings. 

I installed the pistons into the jugs first, then installed the pins and lock rings into the rods.

It was a tight working space but it went pretty well, once I got my damned bifocals adjusted to see.   ;D

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-101118224519-46501954.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-101118224519-46512477.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-101118224519-46521102.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-101118224519-4653933.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-101118224519-465464.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-101118224519-4655538.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Migration
Post by: Brodie on Nov 11, 2018, 01:18:08
Nice. So clean inside.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Migration
Post by: cookiemech on Nov 11, 2018, 07:08:20
Boy, that looks nice! Meticulous attention to detail here.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Migration
Post by: Maritime on Nov 11, 2018, 09:42:00
Awesome. Looks great.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Migration
Post by: trek97 on Nov 11, 2018, 14:07:21
Thanks so much fellas.   :)

An early morning. 

I thought about reinstalling the factory blades as they have little wear. 

But I went w fresh.  Shelving the old, in case the spare motor needs em.

A quick clean down and coat w Marbles motors.  Hit that w heat gun then back into the frame to finish tomorrow.

Nothing else happening today, I ran to town early and picked up a new garage heater, the old one dont have much life left in her.

Cleaning up garage now, a couple buddies bringing a stuck lawnmower over this afternoon.   ::)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-111118115903-46561452.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-111118115904-46572442.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Migration
Post by: irk miller on Nov 11, 2018, 20:01:32
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Title: Re: Black Knight, Migration
Post by: trek97 on Nov 11, 2018, 20:31:32
Haha thanks bro.
Title: Re: Black Knight, OUT and APART, AGAIN. haha
Post by: trek97 on Nov 12, 2018, 13:10:40
Got started early.  Time to install cam...NOPE.

Something has changed, because the there was no way the chain would fit on sprocket and tensioner was tight.

Ugh.  Looking back at pics I discovered I had installed the tensioner adjuster a 1/4 turn wrong.   ::)

At some point it was able slide past the pinch bolt, putting tension on the blade.

So back out and apart it comes.   :P

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-121118105644-46591390.jpeg)

That notch on adjuster should face out.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-121118105644-466044.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-121118105644-46611419.jpeg)

Hondabond cleaned off easily w MEK and fresh reapplied, then coffee and a video, giving plenty of dry time.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-121118105644-4662805.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-121118105644-46632289.jpeg)

Now were back in action. 

Cam and oil pipes installed, everything got Zpaste and dumped some oil down the cam chain to coat the tensioner blades.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-121118105644-4664647.jpeg)

Title: Re: Black Knight, OUT and APART, AGAIN. haha
Post by: trek97 on Nov 12, 2018, 14:09:39
I think Im gonna install the oil pump (everything else) fill tubs then spin engine to ensure its pumping before installing the head cover.
Title: Re: Black Knight, OUT and APART, AGAIN. haha
Post by: Maritime on Nov 12, 2018, 14:17:52
Nice
Title: Re: Black Knight, OUT and APART, AGAIN. haha
Post by: pidjones on Nov 12, 2018, 17:26:08
Forward, Backward, Forward, Cha-cha-cha. I've NEVER gone through a task without needing to undo and redo part of it. Except for taking things apart. I can usually blow right through that! This is looking so good!
Title: Re: Black Knight, OUT and APART, AGAIN. haha
Post by: trek97 on Nov 12, 2018, 18:12:35
If thats the biggest faux pas of the job then Ill be pretty pleased.
Title: Re: Black Knight, OUT and APART, AGAIN. haha
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Nov 13, 2018, 13:22:00
What kind of cam gear is that?  Is that stock?
Title: Re: Black Knight, OUT and APART, AGAIN. haha
Post by: trek97 on Nov 13, 2018, 14:22:18
What kind of cam gear is that?  Is that stock?

Yeah factory unless a P.O. changed it out.
Title: Re: Black Knight, OUT and APART, AGAIN. haha
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Nov 13, 2018, 16:04:18
Looks different than I remember my 350 being...hmmm
Title: Re: Black Knight, OUT and APART, AGAIN. haha
Post by: trek97 on Nov 13, 2018, 16:07:49
Looks different than I remember my 350 being...hmmm

I can look at pic in manual tonight.
Title: Re: Black Knight, OUT and APART, AGAIN. haha
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Nov 13, 2018, 16:09:00
Is it aluminum ? It looks it in the pic. 
Title: Re: Black Knight, OUT and APART, AGAIN. haha
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Nov 13, 2018, 16:10:48
Mine looks like this.
Title: Re: Black Knight, OUT and APART, AGAIN. haha
Post by: teazer on Nov 13, 2018, 17:01:26
I am pretty sure that sprocket is not stock.  The slots are not common on an aftermarket sprocket and unheard of on an OEM one.  It suits the bike though.  BTW, there's way too much perfection going on there.  You're making the rest of us look bad. :-)
Title: Black Knight, OUT and APART, AGAIN. haha
Post by: irk miller on Nov 13, 2018, 17:17:52
Itís stock for an F. Honda did that on their Supersports of the era, and on later 750kís.


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Title: Re: Black Knight, OUT and APART, AGAIN. haha
Post by: teazer on Nov 13, 2018, 17:53:20
That's interesting. I did a quick google search and found one slotted like that.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Black Knight, OUT and APART, AGAIN. haha
Post by: advCo on Nov 13, 2018, 17:57:51
Looking great bud. When's you gonna fire it up?
Title: Re: Black Knight, OUT and APART, AGAIN. haha
Post by: trek97 on Nov 13, 2018, 18:18:11
Looking great bud. When's you gonna fire it up?

Thatís the stinky part.  I still got to get through the harness and all that crap.

Iím pretty excited to hear it run myself.  But still a little while out.

Hopefully everyone will leave me alone to work over Thanksgiving weekend.
Title: Re: Black Knight, OUT and APART, AGAIN. haha
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Nov 13, 2018, 19:08:55
L I B .....that appears to be stock on the 400F.   Should it not fit the 350F too?
Title: Re: Black Knight, OUT and APART, AGAIN. haha
Post by: trek97 on Nov 13, 2018, 20:21:37
No decent pic in Honda manual but the Haynes shows this...

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-131118182022.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Back in Black...and White
Post by: trek97 on Nov 17, 2018, 07:46:46
Fine Art

Bonus, its shifting through all 6 gears.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-171118054458.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Back in Black...and White
Post by: trek97 on Nov 17, 2018, 09:59:53
Filling marks w correction pen makes em a hell of a lot easier to see.

Especially once I get to put the timing light on them.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-171118075843.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight, Black GOLD!!!
Post by: trek97 on Nov 17, 2018, 13:17:21
Oil is flowing....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSEuudpb48U
Title: Re: Black Knight, Black GOLD!!!
Post by: irk miller on Nov 17, 2018, 14:28:37
Looks about as good as it gets, eh?
Title: Re: Black Knight, Black GOLD!!!
Post by: trek97 on Nov 17, 2018, 17:59:34
Looks about as good as it gets, eh?

Nice and juicy, thats fo sho.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Black GOLD!!!
Post by: trek97 on Nov 17, 2018, 21:29:43
I swear to god.  Half the weight of this little engine is in bolts alone.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-171118192404-46701804.jpeg)

More importantly, If you dont have a set of these valve tools.  GET THEM.

Actually making the task a pleasure.  8)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-171118192404-46791523.jpeg)

Title: Re: Black Knight, A long day
Post by: trek97 on Nov 17, 2018, 23:02:11
A long day in the garage, but got a lot done.   :)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-171118210036.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight, A long day
Post by: irk miller on Nov 17, 2018, 23:04:51
Dude.
Title: Re: Black Knight, A long day
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Nov 17, 2018, 23:12:00
Good lord thatís purrdy.
Title: Re: Black Knight, A long day
Post by: trek97 on Nov 17, 2018, 23:57:45
Good lord thatís purrdy.

Dude.

Thanks guys!!!

Just for fun. I might make a pig tail lead to power the coils w the jump box and see if she will fire up tomorrow.

I already got her static timed.  So....no reason not to at least try.   ;D 

We'll see how that goes.  I'd really, REALLY like to hear it.
Title: Re: Black Knight, A long day
Post by: teazer on Nov 18, 2018, 00:09:38
Holey she it.  that's clean. 

Bugger it.  Now I feel all dirty.  My bike needs to be torn down and started again.  :-(

BTW, what are those funny bits on the right end of the crank?  Haven't seen a set of points in quite a while. 

That motor looks amazing.
Title: Re: Black Knight, A long day
Post by: trek97 on Nov 18, 2018, 00:32:51

BTW, what are those funny bits on the right end of the crank?

Haha Thanks dude, my buddies almost had me talked into Dyna.  Then I saw the price tag.  Nope.

Not when I already have the fresh points and coils bought and paid for.   ;D
Title: Re: Black Knight, A long day
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Nov 18, 2018, 09:27:36
Sooo clean! Will you build my rat bike for me?
Seriously man it looks amazing!
Title: Re: Black Knight...LIVES!!!!
Post by: trek97 on Nov 18, 2018, 13:06:50
Sooo clean! Will you build my rat bike for me?
Seriously man it looks amazing!

Ha Thanks but no.   ;)

Here it is first fire caught on video!!!

The wire harness is laying in a heap on the garage floor.

I just ran a hot to the coils and neg to engine bolt from that battery, gave her about 10 kicks.

Im gonna set up Supertrapp and have my favorite camera gal make another video here shortly.

https://youtu.be/XW9aDBZeJzA


Title: Re: Black Knight...LIVES!!!!
Post by: Maritime on Nov 18, 2018, 13:20:27
Wow, excellent.
Title: Re: Black Knight...LIVES!!!!
Post by: irk miller on Nov 18, 2018, 14:17:12
Maybe you should keep that wiring harness in a heap on the floor and make your own simplified version. ;)   Very excited for you, homeboy.
Title: Re: Black Knight...LIVES!!!!
Post by: trek97 on Nov 18, 2018, 15:03:32
Wow, excellent.

Maybe you should keep that wiring harness in a heap on the floor and make your own simplified version. ;)   Very excited for you, homeboy.

Thankyou, and been there done that.  Either way it sucks just as much to make new as to clean up the original.   ;)
Title: Re: Black Knight...SUPERTRAPP!!!!
Post by: trek97 on Nov 18, 2018, 15:04:30
SUPERTRAPP !

https://youtu.be/xnpUCwdVs1I
Title: Re: Black Knight...SUPERTRAPP!!!!
Post by: teazer on Nov 18, 2018, 17:14:57
Looks good & sounds good. Wheels and motor are so clean that the frame now needs a powdercoat to match!
Title: Re: Black Knight...SUPERTRAPP!!!!
Post by: LMCol on Nov 18, 2018, 17:30:43
sounds mint! whats that white Powder you were using on the bolts? some kind of oldschool threadlocker?
Title: Re: Black Knight...SUPERTRAPP!!!!
Post by: trek97 on Nov 18, 2018, 18:56:16
sounds mint! whats that white Powder you were using on the bolts? some kind of oldschool threadlocker?

Thanks bud, It looks powdery in the pic but actually thread sealant w chunks of Teflon. 
so not locktite or Antiseize.  Just to prevent SS from galling w the Aluminum.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Black GOLD!!!
Post by: hooligan998 on Nov 19, 2018, 01:19:50
More importantly, If you dont have a set of these valve tools.  GET THEM.

Actually making the task a pleasure.  8)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-171118192404-46791523.jpeg)

What brand is that?  I like it.  I could use one.
Title: Re: Black Knight, Black GOLD!!!
Post by: trek97 on Nov 19, 2018, 07:49:50
What brand is that?  I like it.  I could use one.

Bike master...They could've made them 1/2 inch deeper and slightly smaller diameter (Ill put it on the bench grinder for next time).

Even still they are perfectly awesome.

https://www.amazon.com/BikeMaster-Valve-Clearance-Adjustable-Wrenches/dp/B0036GGDLA/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1542627922&sr=8-10&keywords=valve+tool+set
Title: Re: Black Knight...SUPERTRAPP!!!!
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Nov 19, 2018, 08:07:23
Man, that Supertrapp sounds glorious. I might need to run one of those on the 550 chop.
Title: Re: Black Knight...SUPERTRAPP!!!!
Post by: trek97 on Nov 19, 2018, 08:29:03
Man, that Supertrapp sounds glorious. I might need to run one of those on the 550 chop.

Ebay my love, Ebay.
Title: Re: Black Knight...SUPERTRAPP!!!!
Post by: pidjones on Nov 19, 2018, 08:36:07
That sounds so smoooooth. With all of the work in it, it should, right?

Does the Teflon paste really work? At work, we had a lot of SS 1/4" NPT fittings into aluminum castings that had been "sealed" with teflon tape. They carried helium, and all leaked. When pulled apart to repair, they had all galled and ripped aluminum threads out with them. Luckily they were shallow enough to be retapped and sealed with blue refrigerant sealant (LeakLok). Of course, NPT threads have a lot of pressure on them. On SS into aluminum bolts, I've been using a product called NeoLube - collodial suspension of graphite in isopropyl alcohol. When the alcohol evaporates, it's like graphite plating. Fantastic for SS to SS at really high temps, and so far has worked for me on SS in aluminum. You MUST use lock washers, however! (And reduce torque, as it is very slick and easy to draw threads right out.)
Title: Re: Black Knight...SUPERTRAPP!!!!
Post by: Sonreir on Nov 19, 2018, 12:08:45
Looking great!
Title: Re: Black Knight...SUPERTRAPP!!!!
Post by: trek97 on Nov 19, 2018, 14:05:13
That sounds so smoooooth. With all of the work in it, it should, right?

Does the Teflon paste really work? At work, we had a lot of SS 1/4" NPT fittings into aluminum castings that had been "sealed" with teflon tape. They carried helium, and all leaked. When pulled apart to repair, they had all galled and ripped aluminum threads out with them. Luckily they were shallow enough to be retapped and sealed with blue refrigerant sealant (LeakLok). Of course, NPT threads have a lot of pressure on them. On SS into aluminum bolts, I've been using a product called NeoLube - collodial suspension of graphite in isopropyl alcohol. When the alcohol evaporates, it's like graphite plating. Fantastic for SS to SS at really high temps, and so far has worked for me on SS in aluminum. You MUST use lock washers, however! (And reduce torque, as it is very slick and easy to draw threads right out.)

Thanks bud, and yes it works really well for me in the applications I use it.  Aluminum bodied Hydraulic elevator control valves.  ( We already have it on the job because we use it on the black pipe threads in hydraulic piping). So it just made sense to me to use it in this application.  I donít recall the numbers off the top of my head but it does have a higher heat tolerance than anti seize.  And Iím not gonna use locktite on engine cover bolts.  Iíve been using it on the bikes since the beginning and everything always comes apart as though I just assembled.  And yes always use it the minimum lubricated fastener torque value.   

And thereís enough in this $12 can to do like 100 bikes.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BPOOXI/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvpv2_1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=6375e697-f226-4dbd-a63a-5ec697811ee1&pd_rd_wg=BlAlp&pf_rd_r=K01YY5QP8TBMJ6MCJYR2&pf_rd_s=desktop-sx-bottom-slot&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_i=B000BPOOXI&pd_rd_w=8MRP8&pf_rd_i=teflon+paste+thread+sealant+real+tuff&pd_rd_r=b049e17f-f965-441c-8992-da63cc82b0c6&ie=UTF8&qid=1542650957&sr=1
Title: Re: Black Knight...SUPERTRAPP!!!!
Post by: trek97 on Nov 20, 2018, 08:50:07
(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-201118064856-4696203.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-201118064856-46981375.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight...SUPERTRAPP!!!!
Post by: ridesolo on Nov 20, 2018, 09:02:58
Lookin' sweet!
Title: Re: Black Knight...SUPERTRAPP!!!!
Post by: advCo on Nov 20, 2018, 09:22:36
Dude, nailed it. I really need to make myself one of these lifts.
Title: Re: Black Knight...SUPERTRAPP!!!!
Post by: trek97 on Nov 20, 2018, 10:09:46
Lookin' sweet!

Thanks bud, hope to get a lot closer this long weekend.


Dude, nailed it. I really need to make myself one of these lifts.

I,will send you a drawing this weekend.
Title: Re: Black Knight...SUPERTRAPP!!!!
Post by: advCo on Nov 20, 2018, 10:11:23
Thanks bud, hope to get a lot closer this long weekend.


I,will send you a drawing this weekend.

Sweet! I need to reconfigure the shop before I add anything but I definitely want to make one come the spring. Can you store it vertically when its not in use?
Title: Re: Black Knight...SUPERTRAPP!!!!
Post by: trek97 on Nov 20, 2018, 12:23:06
Sweet! I need to reconfigure the shop before I add anything but I definitely want to make one come the spring. Can you store it vertically when its not in use?

Yea, just unscrew the 2 pivot locks and the top half lifts off.  And both top and base cad be propped up on the wall.  Iíll do a vid for ya.
Title: Re: Black Knight...Unrealistic goal setting.
Post by: trek97 on Nov 21, 2018, 19:12:41
Ok Ive got a Goal set.

I would love to ride this thing on Sunday.
 
Title: Re: Black Knight...Sparckmoto.com saves my sanity
Post by: trek97 on Nov 21, 2018, 22:28:44
Ok got home from work, made a pot of coffee, procrastinated on FB, then got started on cleaning the harness.

Someone has been here before me.   :P

Ugh, the deeper I dug the worse it got.  Melted wires and connectors, poorly made splices etc etc etc...

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-211118201752-4703928.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-211118201752-470458.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-211118201752-47051490.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-211118201752-4706679.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-211118201752-4707991.jpeg)

That fuckin scotch lock pushed me over the edge.  I hate fucking Scotch Locks.

I made both harnesses for Cherry Bomb and Piglet.  And Im just not feeling it tonight.

So, after a quick conversation w Matt aka Sonrier I got a brand new custom harness in the works.

Thanks so much for being there when I need you most  8)

sparckmoto.com  vintageconnections.com

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-211118201751-47021337.png)(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-211118201751-4699241.png)

 

Title: Re: Black Knight...Sparckmoto.com saves my sanity
Post by: pidjones on Nov 21, 2018, 22:44:39
Lewis Preston (the Electrical Connection) calls Scotch Loks "electrical herpes".
Title: Re: Black Knight...Sparckmoto.com saves my sanity
Post by: trek97 on Nov 21, 2018, 23:33:06
Lewis Preston (the Electrical Connection) calls Scotch Loks "electrical herpes".

haha yes exactly.
Title: Re: Black Knight...Sparckmoto.com saves my sanity
Post by: Sonreir on Nov 21, 2018, 23:57:15
I think I'd rather have herpes. lol
Title: Re: Black Knight...Sparckmoto.com saves my sanity
Post by: irk miller on Nov 22, 2018, 01:39:09
Dynatek sends scotch loks with their Dyna S kits for the power feed.
Title: Re: Black Knight...Sparckmoto.com saves my sanity
Post by: trek97 on Nov 22, 2018, 08:47:25
Dynatek sends scotch loks with their Dyna S kits for the power feed.
(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-221118064704.png)
Title: Re: Black Knight...SUPERTRAPP!!!!
Post by: jpmobius on Nov 22, 2018, 14:16:14
That sounds so smoooooth. With all of the work in it, it should, right?

Does the Teflon paste really work? At work, we had a lot of SS 1/4" NPT fittings into aluminum castings that had been "sealed" with teflon tape. They carried helium, and all leaked. When pulled apart to repair, they had all galled and ripped aluminum threads out with them. Luckily they were shallow enough to be retapped and sealed with blue refrigerant sealant (LeakLok). Of course, NPT threads have a lot of pressure on them. On SS into aluminum bolts, I've been using a product called NeoLube - collodial suspension of graphite in isopropyl alcohol. When the alcohol evaporates, it's like graphite plating. Fantastic for SS to SS at really high temps, and so far has worked for me on SS in aluminum. You MUST use lock washers, however! (And reduce torque, as it is very slick and easy to draw threads right out.)

Stainless to stainless is always a problem.  Antisieze with copper seems to be reliable on bolts, keeping in mind the weakness and gummy nature of stainless and using proper for stainless torque.  Pipe threads require nickle.  Teflon tapes are made with nickle embedded in them for this very purpose are readily available, and are actually a very good thing to have around for non stainless applications, though a bit pricey.  Mandatory for stainless!!  Large diameter stainless pipe threads (4" dia plus) are very hard to reliably seal.  Teflon/nickle tape and teflon pipe dope has proven the best in my own experience along with great care making/inspecting the threads to begin with.

Personally, I have never had any issues with stainless fasteners in aluminum castings.  I think that this is commonly of concern due to corrosion of the aluminum, and while there is some galvanic corrosion from the inherent difference in electrical potential of the dissimilar materials, it seems to be fairly unimportant with bikes.  I pretty much universally use blue threadlocker on everything "ordinary", in this case stainless bolts (which I use universally for non critical applications) in aluminum, castings, i.e. case covers to crankcase.  I believe this works well because the threadlocker seals out moisture and reduces the contact between the two materials.  I absolutely never see a problem even disassembling parts put together for 20+ years.  Bikes disassemble themselves without threadlocker in my experience!
Title: Re: Black Knight...Sparckmoto.com saves my sanity
Post by: trek97 on Nov 22, 2018, 14:40:21
Theres some awesome info in there.  Thanks!   8)

I dont know that you celebrate Thanksgiving, but if you do, Wishing you the best ever.

A couple paragraphs on Stainless thread galling which touches on the use of PTFE prevention.

https://www.fastenal.com/content/feds/pdf/Article%20-%20Galling.pdf

Title: Re: Black Knight...Sparckmoto.com saves my sanity
Post by: Maritime on Nov 22, 2018, 15:50:12


Dynatek sends scotch loks with their Dyna S kits for the power feed.

Yes, I wont be using those either. And I still need ro check the magnets for you
Title: Re: Black Knight...Sparckmoto.com saves my sanity
Post by: pidjones on Nov 22, 2018, 21:45:55
Alternate for the Fastenal link: https://www.fastenal.com/en/72/galling
Title: Re: Black Knight...Sparckmoto.com saves my sanity
Post by: CrabsAndCylinders on Nov 24, 2018, 14:17:35
Thanks for the galling posts, guys.
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: trek97 on Nov 24, 2018, 20:18:22
The weather is going to turn foul soon.

I did the bare minimum to get a ride on this thing.

No wire harness, No Lights, No front brake.

I ran a single wire from battery + to kill switch and back to coils.  A 2nd wire from Battery neg to an engine cover bolt.

Duct taped iPhone to headlight bucket for the ride.  sorry bout that.

https://youtu.be/BVIBqSZlQKM
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: pidjones on Nov 24, 2018, 20:55:23
That will have to carry us until Spring, I guess. Congrats on the 1st outing!
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: trek97 on Nov 24, 2018, 21:03:56
That will have to carry us until Spring, I guess. Congrats on the 1st outing!

Thanks bud,  Yup, This is gonna be one long cold winter.
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: cookiemech on Nov 25, 2018, 07:10:05
Great to see it running and being ridden! Sounds and looks good.
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: Luugo86 on Nov 25, 2018, 08:41:07
Man that is one good sounding bike... well done!
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: trek97 on Nov 25, 2018, 08:59:49
Great to see it running and being ridden! Sounds and looks good.

Man that is one good sounding bike... well done!

Thanks so much guys.

This mornings weather is cold...But no snow/rain yet.

I put the GoPro on to charge.  So hopefully one more ride coming soon.
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: WhyNot on Nov 25, 2018, 09:00:20
wow....all I can say.....wow.

You got game, man. Wish I had your enthusiasm.

Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: Maritime on Nov 25, 2018, 09:24:06
Just played the video and holly woke up and looked at th phone then smiled. 4 days old and alreadt likes the sound of a 400f! Snapped a pic but missed the smile.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/1732-251118072536.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: trek97 on Nov 25, 2018, 10:42:11
Just played the video and holly woke up and looked at th phone then smiled. 4 days old and alreadt likes the sound of a 400f! Snapped a pic but missed the smile.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/1732-251118072536.jpeg)

Haha Sorry bout the wake up call, bro.  ::)

Now that she's "Imprinted" on the sound of the 400F.  Nothing less is ever gonna do for her.   ;)

You and Levi both made cute babies. 

The forum is a funny place...I had no idea "Maritime" was YOU! 

Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: trek97 on Nov 25, 2018, 10:43:55
wow....all I can say.....wow.

You got game, man. Wish I had your enthusiasm.

Haha Thanks dude.  Not so much enthusiasm, as it is motivation to get a ride before the "SNOW HITS THE FAN"
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: trek97 on Nov 25, 2018, 10:51:13
After working as fast as I could to get yesterdays ride in before the sun set.

This morning I discovered a motor mount nut MIA. 

After further investigtion, I forgot to tighten ALL the motor mounts.  LOLOL

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-251118084832.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: Maritime on Nov 25, 2018, 11:50:05
Thanks. She needed to be awake for a feeding anyway. I will now have to find a 400F for her sweet 16 present. Those lose bolts could have been interesting. We all do those things in the excitement of the first fire and ride
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: trek97 on Nov 25, 2018, 17:44:05
I will now have to find a 400F for her sweet 16 present.

Ill prolly have one for sale in about 15 years.   ;)

And by then it will be WAY nicer. 
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: trek97 on Nov 25, 2018, 20:31:23
Hey guys how long / how many miles is a good rule of thumb before re-torquing the head on this thing?
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: Sonreir on Nov 26, 2018, 10:32:52
A good heat cycle or two is what I usually go with. 20 miles for the first time and maybe check again after 100?
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: advCo on Nov 26, 2018, 10:48:05
I never retorque the heads, never had a head gasket leak after rebuild. /shrug

Edit: I do on 2 strokes, because they're right there.
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video
Post by: trek97 on Nov 26, 2018, 14:21:56
A good heat cycle or two is what I usually go with. 20 miles for the first time and maybe check again after 100?

I never retorque the heads, never had a head gasket leak after rebuild. /shrug

I think I will, but wait till springtime, til then any rides will probably be minimal.  I will be there re-setting valves regardless.  A good time to do it all at once. 

Something I have been happy about. 

This engine seems to be very ďforgivingĒ as compared to messing w the 360 all those years. 

Valves are easy to reach and took maybe 10 minutes total.

I havenít made any changes or adjustments to carbs, other than cleaning and new rubber and whatnot.

Itís running surprisingly nice with the quick static time set.  I havenít put the strobe on it yet.

Adjusting the clutch is virtually nothing.

As of now I have no complaints with anything.  It seems just a nice setup.

Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video
Post by: 3DogNate on Nov 29, 2018, 22:13:50
I think I will, but wait till springtime, til then any rides will probably be minimal.  I will be there re-setting valves regardless.  A good time to do it all at once. 

Something I have been happy about. 

This engine seems to be very ďforgivingĒ as compared to messing w the 360 all those years. 

Valves are easy to reach and took maybe 10 minutes total.

I havenít made any changes or adjustments to carbs, other than cleaning and new rubber and whatnot.

Itís running surprisingly nice with the quick static time set.  I havenít put the strobe on it yet.

Adjusting the clutch is virtually nothing.

As of now I have no complaints with anything.  It seems just a nice setup.

THat's awesome that it's running well. True that 360s are fussy assholes for bikes. I'll never touch another...
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video
Post by: trek97 on Dec 01, 2018, 10:31:00
THat's awesome that it's running well. True that 360s are fussy assholes for bikes. I'll never touch another...

Thanks bud, yeah running amazing considering virtually nothing has been tuned yet.

Taking a break now, cleaning, re-organizing so I can get the tractor w snowplow in here for the winter. UGH

Also got the new stove piped up and warming garage nicely.   :)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-011218082853.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-011218082824.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: Sonreir on Dec 01, 2018, 13:13:33
That'll make a difference to the winter projects!
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: trek97 on Dec 01, 2018, 15:25:37
That'll make a difference to the winter projects!

With this thing Ill be working naked.   ;D
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: 3DogNate on Dec 01, 2018, 15:57:30
Nice. My garage is one cold bitch in the winter.

This forum needs a software upgrade so that we can get ďLikeĒ buttons.


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Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: ridesolo on Dec 01, 2018, 16:10:22
I set up one just like that last winter.  It does a really nice job but you have to make sure you crack a window or door open or the fumes will get to ya.  When I did my shop building I insulated the walls and roof but it isn't insulated under the floor; sure wish I'd have had some way to get that done while I was having it built.   
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: trek97 on Dec 01, 2018, 18:44:32
Nice. My garage is one cold bitch in the winter.

This forum needs a software upgrade so that we can get ďLikeĒ buttons.
(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-200816163635.png)
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: trek97 on Dec 01, 2018, 18:46:23
make sure you crack a window or door open

In my drafty old garage "fume collection" is not an issue.   ;D
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: ridesolo on Dec 01, 2018, 18:55:00
In my drafty old garage "fume collection" is not an issue.   ;D

I hear ya, but if you start getting a headache get some fresh air pretty kwik! 

 :-[

Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: trek97 on Dec 01, 2018, 23:12:43
I hear ya, but if you start getting a headache get some fresh air pretty kwik! 

 :-[



Will do.
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: CrabsAndCylinders on Dec 03, 2018, 19:50:15
People die every winter from indoor heater carbon monoxide poisoning, don't chance it, get a detector(s) installed properly and have proper ventilation, this type of poisoning can sneak up on you.
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: irk miller on Dec 03, 2018, 20:28:53
Or move to Georgia, like me, where you don't need that shit.
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: CrabsAndCylinders on Dec 03, 2018, 20:30:38
Or move to Georgia, like me, where you don't need that shit.

Ya, or move to Georgia.
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: trek97 on Dec 03, 2018, 21:34:56
Ill pick up a carbon monoxide detector.  thanks for caring guys.
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: ridesolo on Dec 04, 2018, 14:17:28
Ill pick up a carbon monoxide detector.  thanks for caring guys. 

Jeez, dude... Care?  Did I say anything about caring?  Man, some people, give 'em an inch and they take a mile!  Care!?!?  Bah, humbug!   ;D 
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: trek97 on Dec 04, 2018, 17:04:17
Jeez, dude... Care?  Did I say anything about caring?  Man, some people, give 'em an inch and they take a mile!  Care!?!?  Bah, humbug!   ;D 

Rach just got home w new for garage and house.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-041218150310.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: irk miller on Dec 04, 2018, 17:34:01
Most garages aren't air tight enough to have to worry too much, anyway.  I wouldn't stress out too much about it.  Propane appliance are set to run at ideal burn, which produces very little, to no CO. Ideal burn is 1:24 propane to air.  CO is produced by incomplete combustion of the propane, so if the unit is lean or rich CO occurs. You need to reach more than 70ppm of CO to start to feel effects, so I think even a slightly drafty garage and a brand new, well made propane heater will be just fine.  You should always have a CO detector whenever propane or natural gas is your heat source, but the panic in this tread is a little much.  I run my kilns off of propane and intentionally throw them into reduction (rich) and somehow I still live, breath and walk.
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Dec 04, 2018, 18:03:28
My garage is the same way Irk...lol  its a little drafty. I run a natural gas wall mount heater and I'm not dead yet.
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: WhyNot on Dec 04, 2018, 19:44:50
And, it does get cold as a witch's tit here in Georgia.

When you're old, fat and ugly, 50 is cold.

And drafty garages, do contribute to the cold and freaking heat .
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: ridesolo on Dec 04, 2018, 22:44:51
Most garages aren't air tight enough to have to worry too much, anyway.  ...but the panic in this tread is a little much.

No panic here... I guess my shop is well sealed because I absolutely have to open a window or the door a bit or else the fumes get pretty strong and headache-causing within a few minutes after lighting it up.  It heats up pretty well, though and a slow turning ceiling fan keeps the heat circulated fairly evenly.
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: CrabsAndCylinders on Dec 04, 2018, 23:12:52
Most garages aren't air tight enough to have to worry too much, anyway.  I wouldn't stress out too much about it.  Propane appliance are set to run at ideal burn, which produces very little, to no CO. Ideal burn is 1:24 propane to air.  CO is produced by incomplete combustion of the propane, so if the unit is lean or rich CO occurs. You need to reach more than 70ppm of CO to start to feel effects, so I think even a slightly drafty garage and a brand new, well made propane heater will be just fine.  You should always have a CO detector whenever propane or natural gas is your heat source, but the panic in this tread is a little much.  I run my kilns off of propane and intentionally throw them into reduction (rich) and somehow I still live, breath and walk.

Sorry, yes, propane produces mainly CO2 but this can kill you too, I wouldn't take a chance.  People have even died in drafty tents when using heaters like this.  Better to be proactive and have a good margin of safety, follow manufacturers recommendations.
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: pidjones on Dec 05, 2018, 07:55:59
And, the headaches are from CO2. Thousands of ex-Navy submariners can attest to the high CO2 headaches when our scrubbers went down. Not quite as deadly as CO, and will let you know when it's high (by the headache). Lore has it that it also causes premature gray hair. Hey, when you had to breathe the same recycled farts from ~144 men for ~75 days at a time, you learned about these things.
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: trek97 on Dec 05, 2018, 20:58:04
I have gotten woozy running bikes in here to long without "both" doors fully open.  So it will be good for that.
Title: Re: Black Knight...First ride video.
Post by: CrabsAndCylinders on Dec 06, 2018, 03:08:01
Not to belabour the point but this occurred in Vancouver today, 13 people rushed to hospital, two in serious condition one of which is expected to die, 17 poisonings in Vancouver during this cold snap:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/vancouver-carbon-monoxide-1.4934417
Title: Re: Black Knight...Side job.
Post by: trek97 on Dec 17, 2018, 08:37:47
Working to get a few Christmas gifts ready.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-171218063320-4759198.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-171218063320-47601494.jpeg)

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Managing to get a bit done whilst waiting for new cordage and switches and stuff.

Fresh brake buttoned up and fender fitted.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-171218063320-47621351.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight...Side job.
Post by: cookiemech on Dec 19, 2018, 05:42:58
Hope the recipients are properly appreciative of the quality of those fans! Nice.
Title: Re: Black Knight...Side job.
Post by: trek97 on Dec 19, 2018, 22:29:28
Thanks bud...heres the first one finished for Rachel to go in our bathroom.

Thought Id give the 2k primer a go.  It goes on and sands just like primer. 

Rach really likes the new Subaru color, Jasmine green, so that came from Harpy's motors. 

My fan, going in the garage, will be House of Kolor, Candy Blue.

And all finished w 2k clear.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-191218202241-4766776.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-191218202241-4763776.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-191218202241-47671988.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-191218202242-4768509.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-191218202242-4769473.jpeg)

https://youtu.be/sh5cXv0uS0A
Title: Re: Black Knight...Side job.
Post by: Maritime on Dec 19, 2018, 22:42:17
Watch spraying with the propane heater. I ruined one wirh overspray getting sucked in the heater, drying and plugging it all to dog poo. Looks great though Id just haye to see the new heater get buggered
Title: Re: Black Knight...Side job.
Post by: Jimbonaut on Dec 19, 2018, 22:54:18
Looking good there Trek - Iím a fan


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Title: Re: Black Knight...Side job.
Post by: Jimbonaut on Dec 19, 2018, 22:56:31
Iíd be interested to hear how that House of Kolor aerosol lays down. Iím eyeing up a HOK colour too and going the aerosol route.


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Title: Re: Black Knight...Side job.
Post by: trek97 on Dec 20, 2018, 00:12:45
Watch spraying with the propane heater. I ruined one wirh overspray getting sucked in the heater, drying and plugging it all to dog poo. Looks great though Id just haye to see the new heater get buggered

I try to do all my spraying outside on the patio.  I took today off work for this weather.

Just hanging near heater to cure the 2k faster.  Once it gassed off out doors.

Looking good there Trek - Iím a fan


Thanks bro and  ;D

Iíd be interested to hear how that House of Kolor aerosol lays down. Iím eyeing up a HOK colour too and going the aerosol route.


Hoping to spray the HOK candy sometime over the holiday weekend.  Im gonna spray it over the Marbles motors silver.

Ill be sure to post the results.

Title: Re: Black Knight...Side job.
Post by: advCo on Dec 20, 2018, 09:11:19
Sweet fans!
Title: Re: Black Knight...Side job.
Post by: Jimbonaut on Dec 20, 2018, 09:24:48


Hoping to spray the HOK candy sometime over the holiday weekend.  Im gonna spray it over the Marbles motors silver.

Ill be sure to post the results.

Love HOK - Iím thinking of a Shimrin colour for my bike. Looking forward to seeing how yours turns out. Great gift man



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Title: Re: Black Knight...Side job.
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Dec 20, 2018, 09:38:32
I am a fan.
Title: Re: Black Knight...Side job.
Post by: Sonreir on Dec 20, 2018, 10:57:38
Looking good!
Title: Re: Black Knight...Side job.
Post by: irk miller on Dec 20, 2018, 11:19:56
Wow. That's fancy.
Title: Re: Black Knight...Side job.
Post by: trek97 on Dec 20, 2018, 19:53:12
Thanks guys.  Once I finish up these three fans, Ill be done w fans, forever.
Title: Re: Black Knight..house of Kolor spray bomb
Post by: trek97 on Dec 25, 2018, 08:23:00
One for my garage and the 3rd is for my moms Christmas.

The House of Kolor spray bomb went on really nice. 

I think it is a "Shimrim", Cobalt blue Kandy base coat sprayed over Marbles Motors engine silver.

Need to be careful w it.  As its mixed SUPER THIN it sprays on nice and even.  I didn't get any runs or drips...thank god.

Takes a bunch of coats to achieve the actual color.  I think I sprayed at least 6 coats...emptied the entire can on these 2 small-ish fans.

So if your wanting to spray a tank and get full color saturation...I would play it safe and buy 3 cans. (2 cans MIGHT just do it though, I wouldn't risk it)

2 thick coats of 2k after that. 

The pics dont show full gloss.  They were covered in grease and oil right after assembly.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-251218060758-4778246.png)

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Title: Re: Black Knight..house of Kolor spray bomb
Post by: trek97 on Dec 25, 2018, 08:48:30
Got em cleaned up.

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Title: Re: Black Knight..house of Kolor spray bomb
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Dec 25, 2018, 12:10:02
They turned out really sweet!
Title: Re: Black Knight..house of Kolor spray bomb
Post by: Maritime on Dec 26, 2018, 16:49:43
Nice!
Title: Re: Black Knight..house of Kolor spray bomb
Post by: cookiemech on Dec 26, 2018, 17:32:18
Them's PRETTY! Never saw a fan I thought was pretty before . . .
Title: Re: Black Knight..house of Kolor spray bomb
Post by: trek97 on Dec 26, 2018, 17:33:43
Thanks guys, Im going to order some shims for motor armature shafts. 
As they have been well used and now that everything is cleaned up w fresh (soft) lube
a couple want to rattle a bit.
Title: Re: Black Knight..house of Kolor spray bomb
Post by: hooligan998 on Dec 30, 2018, 02:02:50
Nice.  I'm a big fan of those fans!
Title: Re: Black Knight..house of Kolor spray bomb
Post by: trek97 on Dec 30, 2018, 20:22:11
Nice.  I'm a big fan of those fans!

haha thanks bud
Title: Re: Black Knight..house of Kolor spray bomb
Post by: Jimbonaut on Jan 02, 2019, 16:58:30
Dude they came out great.  Nice work indeed!
Title: Re: Black Knight..wired and charging
Post by: trek97 on Jan 09, 2019, 16:36:13
Back to the bike..

The original harness was toast, so had sparckmoto.com build me a fresh custom.

Complete w LED's, turn flasher and R/R.  Everything went perfectly.

Until I found the old stator had a bad leg, got a new emgo.  and ALL GOOD.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-090119142418-47852377.jpeg)

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Cut old reflector and riveted it to new so the original would fit in stock bucket w LED.


(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-090119142418-48081149.jpeg)

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Charging properly at idle

https://youtu.be/IAZ2YkY6PFQ
Title: Re: Black Knight..Wired up and Charging
Post by: advCo on Jan 09, 2019, 16:56:26
Looking good!
Title: Re: Black Knight..Wired up and Charging
Post by: irk miller on Jan 09, 2019, 17:05:16
How bright are those dash lights? They look crazy bright in your pic.  Nothing worse for seeing at night then having bright ass dash lights in your face.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Wired up and Charging
Post by: trek97 on Jan 09, 2019, 17:17:01
How bright are those dash lights? They look crazy bright in your pic.  Nothing worse for seeing at night then having bright ass dash lights in your face.

Ill let you know.  The High Beam indicator should be the only one lit running down the road. And its the dimmest of them so theres that.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Wired up and Charging
Post by: irk miller on Jan 09, 2019, 19:07:42
Cool.  They look wonderful, but I had to change out some similar LEDs because they were too bright, which is why I bring it up.  Funny thing is, when I had a full face shield on it was even worse, because the angle of the reflection would fill the shield and make me virtually blind at night.  I couldn't run with the shield down at night.  The high beam indicator, like you say, was a big issue, but the turns were worse because you got this intermittent blast of light in the middle of a turn.  I like to pop it in neutral at longer lights, especially to rest my wrists on long rides, but couldn't do it with those lights.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Wired up and Charging
Post by: trek97 on Jan 09, 2019, 21:38:42
Cool.  They look wonderful, but I had to change out some similar LEDs because they were too bright, which is why I bring it up.  Funny thing is, when I had a full face shield on it was even worse, because the angle of the reflection would fill the shield and make me virtually blind at night.  I couldn't run with the shield down at night.  The high beam indicator, like you say, was a big issue, but the turns were worse because you got this intermittent blast of light in the middle of a turn.  I like to pop it in neutral at longer lights, especially to rest my wrists on long rides, but couldn't do it with those lights.

As you know I dont do much riding after dark, Though I have gotten caught a few times.

 I do have these in all the bikes and never noticed them annoying.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Wired up and Charging
Post by: irk miller on Jan 09, 2019, 21:49:25
As you know I dont do much riding after dark, Though I have gotten caught a few times.

 I do have these in all the bikes and never noticed them annoying.
Cool. I'd be interested in what you're getting.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Wired up and Charging
Post by: Sonreir on Jan 10, 2019, 11:29:02
I also sent some of our newer style bulbs that aren't quite as bright. You can swap over to those if the older style is a bit much.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Wired up and Charging
Post by: trek97 on Jan 10, 2019, 14:05:36
I also sent some of our newer style bulbs that aren't quite as bright. You can swap over to those if the older style is a bit much.

Iíll swap out the current dash bulbs for the new style and install these bright ones in the clocks, this evening.  Thanks bud
Title: Re: Black Knight..Wired up and Charging
Post by: cookiemech on Jan 12, 2019, 14:15:36
That's a REALLY nice harness!
Title: Re: Black Knight..Wired up and Charging
Post by: trek97 on Jan 12, 2019, 15:07:33
That's a REALLY nice harness!

thanks bud, and YES it is.  Matt really does a top job.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Wired up and Charging
Post by: Jimbonaut on Jan 13, 2019, 11:32:53
Looking sharp Trek, very tidy. Out of interest, what kind of money does a new wiring harness set you back?


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Title: Re: Black Knight..Wired up and Charging
Post by: trek97 on Jan 13, 2019, 13:05:41
Looking sharp Trek, very tidy. Out of interest, what kind of money does a new wiring harness set you back?

Thanks bro!  Yeah you need to talk w Sonrier aka Matt aka Sparckmoto aka Vintageconnections.  As I imagine its dependent upon your needs.

And I made two for Piglet and Cherry Bomb.  I was in no mood to do this one myself, at the time.  So very well worth every penny.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Wired up and Charging
Post by: Jimbonaut on Jan 13, 2019, 13:20:06
No doubt. Canít imagine what kind of a headwreck making a harness would be. The one I pulled from my current 750 build looks to be in ok shape, but if a closer inspection reveals some nasties then good to know thereís a guy I can call...


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Title: Re: Black Knight..Wired up and Charging
Post by: Maritime on Jan 13, 2019, 13:25:06
Matt does awesome work.  He has levels from parts, to part harnesses to full factory spec or custom. I like his FB11 fuse block. You can start with that and thenold harness and clean the wiring up really well. Ive been running it 2 seasons on the GL and its solid.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Wired up and Charging
Post by: Sonreir on Jan 13, 2019, 16:15:22
The one I did for Eric is a stock replica. 99% of what we do is usually custom work, for custom builds. If you need a stock replica at something we can do, but we usually charge hourly rate on those. I do the custom work more often, so it's actually easier to estimate.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Wired up and Charging
Post by: trek97 on Jan 26, 2019, 07:09:17
I didn't like the 4into1 kits.

So, I got the O-rings and float valves from Honda.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-260119044802-48661875.jpeg)

Found the rings on the fuel feed tubes were flattened and kind of hard. 

None were broken, but several did break when I removed them.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-260119044803-48712045.jpeg)

Fresh on the right, Originals on left were flattened.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-260119044803-48701950.jpeg)

Long as the carbs were out of the way I went ahead and retorqued head bolts and re-set valve tappets.

I was surprised it required about an 1/8th turn more to hit the 14.5ftlbs again.  On every head bolt.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-260119044803-48722498.jpeg)


Title: Re: Black Knight..Wired up and Charging
Post by: trek97 on Jan 26, 2019, 07:13:37
Excited to get this set up. 

Powered exhaust vent.  So I can run and tune bike during these winter months.

I only got about $150 invested in this.  and I got enough flex tube to add a "Y" and a second muffler collector for dual exhaust when I need it.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-260119050828.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight..Wired up and Charging
Post by: WhyNot on Jan 26, 2019, 08:34:35
Wow....so cool.

I've got those same rubber kits.

Now just need to get them installed.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Wired up and Charging
Post by: Jimbonaut on Jan 26, 2019, 11:39:25
I bought the 4into1 kits for my 750ís carbs but yet to install them. I went with Randakkís kit for my last 750 - not cheap by any means but highly rated. How long before your 4into1 kit crapped out?


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Title: Re: Black Knight..Wired up and Charging
Post by: trek97 on Jan 27, 2019, 21:28:49
I bought the 4into1 kits for my 750ís carbs but yet to install them. I went with Randakkís kit for my last 750 - not cheap by any means but highly rated. How long before your 4into1 kit crapped out?

The fact that the A/F mix screw threads were the wrong diameter (to small) disappointed me from the start.

Then every time I turned the fuel valve on ALL four would overflow for 10-15 seconds before float valves closed up.  One wouldn't stop leaking a little.

The outside diameters (o-ring seats) were cut different than the stock brass.  But the actual "jet" holes were all correct. 

I just had enough and said screw it.  Spent the money and Bought the right stuff, refitting all the factory brass properly.  Alng w new Honda float valves.

I dont need the headache of 4 questionable carbs haunting me.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Not Just Another Saturday Night
Post by: trek97 on Jan 27, 2019, 22:04:52
Spent an awesome Saturday night at the Garage Brewed Motorcycle show w these guys.

Irk Miller, Flug, Stella
(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-270119195127-4884674.jpeg)

Irks 7fitty - No Plunger Hellride Freedom Machine.
http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=74688.0
(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-270119195127-4885229.jpeg)

The Indy kids!!!

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-270119195127-48881208.jpeg)

Canyoncarver and Hurco550

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-270119195127-4887316.jpeg)

My buddy Ron, Ted Tackett and Paul Dutra

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-270119195127-48861774.jpeg)

RicerwannaB and Paul Dutra

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-270119195127-487362.jpeg)

If interested Paul is the builder of one of my all time favorites "El Guapo"

https://www.pipeburn.com/home/2011/12/01/1975-honda-goldwing-rat-el-guapo.html

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Title: Re: Black Knight..OMG I think it's done.
Post by: trek97 on Feb 03, 2019, 20:03:16
The Black Knight lives to fight another day...

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220618042444.png)

https://youtu.be/U5cNF0C0R9s


(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-030219175256-49101671.jpeg)

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Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: Jimbonaut on Feb 03, 2019, 20:24:11
I do not have the words to say how much I love that seat. Nope, just donít. And the rest of The Black Knight looks absolutely killer.

Right. The Fck. On.


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Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: trek97 on Feb 03, 2019, 20:28:54
I do not have the words to say how much I love that seat. Nope, just donít. And the rest of The Black Knight looks absolutely killer.

Right. The Fck. On.

Haha Its my "theft deterrent system".  Thanks so much bro!!!!
Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: canyoncarver on Feb 03, 2019, 20:38:37
Outfrickingstanding work dude.  Very cool bike.
Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: trek97 on Feb 03, 2019, 23:27:28
Outfrickingstanding work dude.  Very cool bike.

Thankyou Sir, just lookin to do something fun and different.
Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: Sonreir on Feb 04, 2019, 00:34:26
Looks and sounds fantastic!
Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: Luugo86 on Feb 04, 2019, 04:31:26
 Really kick ass bike man
Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Feb 04, 2019, 07:00:20
I can definitely dig it, my man.
Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: trek97 on Feb 04, 2019, 07:51:20
I can definitely dig it, my man.
Really kick ass bike man
Looks and sounds fantastic!

Thanks guys!  It was a fun build.
Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: advCo on Feb 04, 2019, 09:12:04
Nice!
Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: Maritime on Feb 04, 2019, 09:39:00
Yep, another winner!
Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: trek97 on Feb 04, 2019, 14:17:10
Nice!
Yep, another winner!

Thanks guys. 
Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: pidjones on Feb 04, 2019, 15:45:43
So nice! Neat contrast between shiny chrome and burlap/fake rust. Love you safety gear too, but expected crocks for footgear. Wish my 750 was as quiet as the Supertrap makes yours. Sounds so smooooth!
Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: SONIC. on Feb 04, 2019, 16:12:09
Well played sir well played!
Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Feb 04, 2019, 19:25:07
Love it man!
Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: trek97 on Feb 04, 2019, 19:37:49
Well played sir well played!

Love it man!

So nice! Neat contrast between shiny chrome and burlap/fake rust. Love you safety gear too, but expected crocks for footgear. Wish my 750 was as quiet as the Supertrap makes yours. Sounds so smooooth!

Thanks so much guys.  I wasn't really sure how it was gonna turn out.  But, yeah Im pleased.

The Supertrapp produces an awesome note w this baby four.  Much deeper and throatier than I was expecting. Best of all not loud at cruising speeds.
Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: trek97 on Feb 04, 2019, 19:40:38
expected crocks for footgear.

No Sir, no crocks here...Im an UGGS sorta guy.  LOL

Went for the composite toes for the rides.
Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: trek97 on Feb 04, 2019, 20:09:57
Oh and just to keep it real.

Ive been gathering 'proper parts' for the 'proper restoration', next winter or maybe the next next winter.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-040219174852.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: Brodie on Feb 04, 2019, 22:57:29
Nice. Version 2 will be shiny by the looks of things.
Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: trek97 on Feb 05, 2019, 08:46:51
Nice. Version 2 will be shiny by the looks of things.

Thanks bud, and yes, little bit shinier for summer after.   8)
Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: Flugtechnik on Feb 05, 2019, 17:03:06
Nice jammies.  The bike is cool too.
Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: trek97 on Feb 05, 2019, 20:16:42
Nice jammies.  The bike is cool too.

haha I thought they would fitting for the ride...considering the bike. 

Thanks so much my man.  Oh, and A VOTE FOR PIGLET IS A VOTE FOR SUMMER.  8)
Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: dwysywd on Feb 06, 2019, 17:39:36
Wow, hats off, that is one cool retro rad rod bike. I can't believe you want to restore it now!
Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: trek97 on Feb 06, 2019, 21:15:54
Wow, hats off, that is one cool retro rad rod bike. I can't believe you want to restore it now!

Thank you sir. 

Ive restored a few bikes now, and nice parts for this one are a bit more expensive so the collecting is going pretty slow.

And Obviously I didn't want to wait that long for the ride.  haha
Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: irk miller on Feb 06, 2019, 21:32:34
If he doesn't restore this thing like I've seen him restore his other bikes, I may slowly bleed out.
Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: trek97 on Feb 06, 2019, 23:22:55
If he doesn't restore this thing like I've seen him restore his other bikes, I may slowly bleed out.

ahahaha,  now we cant let that happen, or can we?

Funny, my 92yo neighbor Bob popped into my garage for a visit just now.

He sees Piglet up on the service bench.  Bob says "Wow, its looking really nice now."

I said, "No bud, thats Piglet, the 400/four is parked over here."

He stared at it for a full 30 seconds.  The man didn't say a word and changed the subject. 

HAHAHA. Made my whole day.   ;D
Title: Re: Black Knight..Double Secret High Speed
Post by: trek97 on Feb 24, 2019, 18:19:37
Had to make a few brackets to fit the BSA-Triumph-Something, fairing.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-240219161551-4971892.jpeg)

Added the high speed stickers and painted The Holy Grail - its Black Knight thing.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-240219161551-49792135.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-240219161551-49802409.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-240219161551-498154.jpeg)





Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: canyoncarver on Feb 24, 2019, 18:45:04
I love it.
Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: Maritime on Feb 24, 2019, 19:26:05
Ha, love it. You'll be pleasantly surprised by how much wind that will block as well.
Title: Re: Black Knight..omg I think its done.
Post by: trek97 on Feb 24, 2019, 20:40:08
Ha, love it. You'll be pleasantly surprised by how much wind that will block as well.

I love it.

And I love you guys.  ;), I was kinda hoping for a little wind block.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Double Super Secret High Speed
Post by: trek97 on Feb 24, 2019, 21:11:47
The clear coat kinda messed up the sticker and gonna have to staple the corner down as glue isn't holding too well...right side cover DONE!

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-240219190924-49821818.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-240219190924-49841999.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight..Double Super Secret High Speed
Post by: pidjones on Feb 24, 2019, 23:51:27
It's got the Moon eyes, so I approve!
Title: Re: Black Knight..Double Super Secret High Speed
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Feb 25, 2019, 07:49:36
Moon Eyes and Adventure Time. I can dig it.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Double Super Secret High Speed
Post by: trek97 on Feb 25, 2019, 08:55:43
It's got the Moon eyes, so I approve!

Thanks so much for planting THAT seed pidjones!
Title: Re: Black Knight..Double Super Secret High Speed
Post by: trek97 on Feb 25, 2019, 08:57:40
Moon Eyes and Adventure Time. I can dig it.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-221118064704.png)
Title: Re: Black Knight..Double Super Secret High Speed
Post by: trek97 on Feb 25, 2019, 09:16:38
Also, Im not the biggest fan of the good chrome rear rack.

Plans in the works for a "better" DIY... ;D

Maybe next weekend.  Before the BOTM voting opens. 

SO PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE FIND A COUPLE MORE "REAL" NICE BIKES TO NOMINATE!!!
Title: Re: Black Knight..Double Super Secret High Speed
Post by: ridesolo on Feb 25, 2019, 11:04:16
It's got the Moon eyes, so I approve!

Yeah but... no JEGS sticker?  Completely. Disillusioned. Heartbroken. And. Gobsmacked!
Title: Re: Black Knight..Double Super Secret High Speed
Post by: trek97 on Feb 25, 2019, 11:28:40
Yeah but... no JEGS sticker?  Completely. Disillusioned. Heartbroken. And. Gobsmacked!

And you know, I had a Jegs sticker at one time.    Hmmmmm
Title: Re: Black Knight..New luggage rack plans
Post by: trek97 on Mar 01, 2019, 19:57:45
Considering a new luggage rack...

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-010319175505-49991192.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-010319175506-50001822.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight..New luggage rack plans
Post by: trek97 on Mar 01, 2019, 20:28:13
Something sorta like this.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-010319182723.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight..New luggage rack plans
Post by: trek97 on Mar 01, 2019, 21:13:57
Dyna showed up today.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-010319191315.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight..New luggage rack plans
Post by: Maritime on Mar 02, 2019, 10:22:56
Ha, gonna use the scotch lok connector?
Title: Re: Black Knight..New luggage rack plans
Post by: Jimbonaut on Mar 02, 2019, 11:09:53
Considering a new luggage rack...

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-010319175505-49991192.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-010319175506-50001822.jpeg)

Genius.  Those hockey sticks will really N-H-eLevate this bike.




I'll get my coat.
Title: Re: Black Knight..New luggage rack plans
Post by: CrabsAndCylinders on Mar 02, 2019, 15:05:27
Considering a new luggage rack...

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-010319175505-49991192.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-010319175506-50001822.jpeg)

Are you sure the curves on those sticks are legal?
Title: Re: Black Knight..New luggage rack plans
Post by: trek97 on Mar 02, 2019, 16:47:35
Ha, gonna use the scotch lok connector?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. no
Title: Re: Black Knight..New luggage rack DONE
Post by: trek97 on Mar 02, 2019, 22:43:43
Genius.  Those hockey sticks will really N-H-eLevate this bike.

I'll get my coat.

Are you sure the curves on those sticks are legal?

Ha!

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-020319204116-50012024.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-020319204116-5005596.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-020319204116-5006342.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-020319204116-50072227.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight..New luggage rack DONE
Post by: dwysywd on Mar 02, 2019, 23:44:33
Ha!

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-020319204116-50012024.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-020319204116-5005596.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-020319204116-5006342.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-020319204116-50072227.jpeg)
That is just awesomeness on a bike! Pure genius.


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Title: Re: Black Knight..New luggage rack DONE
Post by: wozza on Mar 03, 2019, 01:52:58
Nice... needs some bio hazard stickers on the cooler ;) 
Title: Re: Black Knight..New luggage rack DONE
Post by: trek97 on Mar 03, 2019, 10:15:46
Nice... needs some bio hazard stickers on the cooler ;)
(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-200816163635.png)
Title: Re: Black Knight..New luggage rack DONE
Post by: trek97 on Mar 03, 2019, 10:18:46
This rack is actually smaller than the original chrome one.  But makes the whole thing look long.

Im gonna knock a few inches off the seat length and move the rack forward.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Seat and rack Re-DONE
Post by: trek97 on Mar 03, 2019, 13:28:03
Gotta finish shaping the foam and re-glue the burlap, but this is the Jist of it.

7 inches removed from seat and rack.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-030319112449-5008432.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-030319112449-500914.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-030319112449-50101446.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight..Seat and rack Re-DONE
Post by: stroker crazy on Mar 03, 2019, 16:26:23
7 inches removed from seat and rack.
Less is more ...

Crazy
Title: Re: Black Knight..Seat and rack Re-DONE
Post by: Maritime on Mar 03, 2019, 20:15:38
Yep. Much better.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Seat and rack Re-DONE
Post by: trek97 on Mar 03, 2019, 22:03:05
Thanks bro
Title: Re: Black Knight..Seat and rack Re-DONE
Post by: advCo on Mar 04, 2019, 10:29:02
(https://i.imgur.com/62gjBZX.png)
Title: Re: Black Knight..Seat and rack Re-DONE
Post by: irk miller on Mar 04, 2019, 10:36:36
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kyz19iN2CH1qz4xr9.jpg)
Title: Re: Black Knight..Seat and rack Re-DONE
Post by: Maritime on Mar 04, 2019, 10:53:11
Clerks! that is the best movie LOL.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Seat and rack Re-DONE
Post by: CrabsAndCylinders on Mar 04, 2019, 13:08:22
https://youtu.be/IUbn5ss8j9c
Title: Re: Black Knight..Seat and rack Re-DONE
Post by: trek97 on Mar 04, 2019, 14:37:38
Slap shot what an awesome film that was. 
Title: Re: Black Knight..Upgrade ?
Post by: trek97 on Mar 16, 2019, 11:18:09
I have high hopes this turns out to be an upgrade...

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-160319091424-505460.jpeg)


And YES its wired proper.  ;). #noscotchlock

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-160319091424-50551507.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight..Upgrade ?
Post by: Maritime on Mar 16, 2019, 11:32:00
LOL I threw the scotchlock in the trash when I opened mine. Im hoping to get it installed today or tomorrow along with about 20 other things.  Looks great.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Upgrade ?
Post by: trek97 on Mar 16, 2019, 11:35:04
LOL I threw the scotchlock in the trash when I opened mine. Im hoping to get it installed today or tomorrow along with about 20 other things.  Looks great.

Thats the best thing you can do with a Scotchlock.

The instructions for mine said to static time at full advance. 

I just did it normally, then I was able to twist and hold it at full advance to check.

Spot on.  Just gotta tweak it in now with the strobe.

Title: Re: Black Knight..Upgrade ?
Post by: Brodie on Mar 16, 2019, 11:45:45
Looks good.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Nothing left but the ride.
Post by: trek97 on Mar 16, 2019, 19:11:22
Thanks bud, Tweaked.  :)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-160319162233-50561991.jpeg)

And with that I believe she is complete and ready to terrorize the village.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-160319173842.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-220618042444.png)
Title: Re: Black Knight..Nothing left but the ride.
Post by: irk miller on Mar 16, 2019, 20:46:53
(http://ayllax.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Monty-Python-and-the-Holy-Grail.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight..Nothing left but the ride.
Post by: pidjones on Mar 16, 2019, 21:48:59
I have the same timing light! Can't remember how long ago I bought it. Now, with weather sloooowwwly improving, you can ride off in seach of the grail!
Title: Re: Black Knight..Nothing left but the ride.
Post by: trek97 on Mar 16, 2019, 21:50:04
(http://ayllax.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Monty-Python-and-the-Holy-Grail.jpeg)

Dude never gives up.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Nothing left but the ride.
Post by: trek97 on Mar 16, 2019, 21:51:35
I have the same timing light! Can't remember how long ago I bought it. Now, with weather sloooowwwly improving, you can ride off in seach of the grail!

This machine IS my grail.   ;)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-240219161551-498154.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight..Nothing left but the ride.
Post by: Sonreir on Mar 18, 2019, 11:20:18
Noice.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Nothing left but the ride.
Post by: trek97 on Mar 18, 2019, 14:21:17
Noice.

Thanks my man.
Title: Re: Black Knight..First nice ride ALMOST successful
Post by: trek97 on Mar 24, 2019, 11:40:42
Rach and I had our first sunny ride of the season.

It was almost a success.  The circlip popped off and my shifter was left dangling by the rearset linkage out on the breeze.

Got home, drilled a hole through the shaft and fixed that.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-240319093651-50751504.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-240319093652-50771250.jpeg)
Title: Re: Black Knight..First nice ride ALMOST successful
Post by: WhyNot on Mar 24, 2019, 22:13:32
Kewl..................................

One of these days, I'll be able to ride the things I have.

Very nice.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Brake upgrade.
Post by: trek97 on Jun 14, 2019, 19:14:27
Attempting to replicate Irks brake upgrade.

Using factory Honda disc hub w a Kawasaki disc...

the new disc is larger diameter + lighter.  I will weigh parts before installing.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-140619170013-5329222.jpeg)

Drilled, tapped and countersunk hub for the shouldered Kawasaki bolts.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-140619170014-5332447.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-140619170014-5333382.jpeg)

Fitted w aluminum crush washers as the bolt heads didn't quite fit the disc as planned.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-140619170014-53341093.jpeg)

Jammed w flanged locknuts.  Will knock off excess threads before paint.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-140619170120-53352389.jpeg)

Picked up a second set of forks, along w everything for rebuild...I will swap these for minimal down time.

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-140619170013-53301655.jpeg)

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-140619170121-53382122.jpeg)


Title: Re: Black Knight..Brake upgrade
Post by: irk miller on Jun 14, 2019, 19:29:28
Looks great.  What Suzuki rotor is that?  I used an EX500 rotor.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Brake upgrade
Post by: trek97 on Jun 15, 2019, 00:04:23
Looks great.  What Suzuki rotor is that?  I used an EX500 rotor.

Advertised EX500.  Not made exactly to spec Im sure.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Brake upgrade
Post by: irk miller on Jun 15, 2019, 00:30:52
Advertised EX500.  Not made exactly to spec Im sure.
EX500 is Kawasaki. It's a Ninja.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Brake upgrade
Post by: trek97 on Jun 15, 2019, 07:14:19
EX500 is Kawasaki. It's a Ninja.

Advertised for Ninja - ex500 - gpz500

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-150619051318.png)
Title: Re: Black Knight..Brake upgrade
Post by: irk miller on Jun 15, 2019, 10:49:57
Advertised for Ninja - ex500 - gpz500

(http://www.dotheton.com/gallery/11494-150619051318.png)
That's what I said.  I'm trying to figure out the Suzuki part.  You said Suzuki.

Attempting to replicate Irks brake upgrade.

Using factory Honda disc hub w a Suzuki disc...

Title: Re: Black Knight..Brake upgrade
Post by: trek97 on Jun 15, 2019, 21:53:08
That's what I said.  I'm trying to figure out the Suzuki part.  You said Suzuki.

Hardy har har.  lol. I fixed it.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Brake upgrade
Post by: irk miller on Jun 15, 2019, 22:10:10
Hardy har har.  lol. I fixed it.
LOL.  I really was hoping you found a Suzuki disc with the same pattern.
Title: Re: Black Knight..Brake upgrade
Post by: trek97 on Jun 16, 2019, 08:06:49
LOL.  I really was hoping you found a Suzuki disc with the same pattern.

Im sorry to disappoint bubba.   ;D