DO THE TON

Blood Sweat Tears and Grease => Projects => Cafe Racers => Topic started by: andycafe on Mar 30, 2009, 07:47:38

Title: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: andycafe on Mar 30, 2009, 07:47:38
Here we have a fine example of the Honda Cb 250 Rs, a friend has had it hold up in his back yard for a couple of years, so after being shown the cafe light by my brother in law, i asked my friend if he would like me to clean up his back yard and take the little gem off his hands. once we got it home i went straight to work stripping off all the ugly bits and mocking it up. Now it didnt go anywhere over summer as our ski boat needed some affection too..... so here we are the story will continue....  ???
Title: Re: Honda cb250rs Cafe Racer build
Post by: BigBSBusa on Mar 30, 2009, 10:50:32
Looks to be in pretty good condition.
Title: the stripdown has started
Post by: andycafe on Mar 30, 2009, 16:57:15
heres some new images of the stripdown started on the weekend. Now we can get ready to have the frame modified, and ive started looking around for the bits i need for the rebuild.....

I was supprised at how easy it was to take the wiring loom out, its amazing how much more of the bike you see and the ideas you get when you get up close and personal with it.....

The motor came out without complaint and realy started to show what we had to work with in the frame department..

once we had it down to the bare frame i enjoyed lookng at the simplisity of it all, aswell as helping in the ideas area for what mods i want to make to it without detracting from the simple clean look we want to have in the end product..
Title: here are a few more images of the strip down to look over
Post by: andycafe on Apr 07, 2009, 07:27:53
here are the latest images for the weekends work

Just liked this image of the rear end, couldnt help but show it....

We are going to keep the original tank, mainly because of the fuel cap lock, but its also long and sleak looking with the knee dents to keep the look, very cool....

This metal gaurd is and original peice from inside the rear cowl, it seems such a waste to hide it, even with its pressed lines it just looks so good bolted on as the rear fender and most of the factory holes can be reused for mounting, lights and number plate bolts.

Its often said that the engine its the heart of any machine, i had it sitting on the ground and took this pic thinking it realy did look like a heart with its arteries still attached
Title: Re: CB400f, what a great gift
Post by: andycafe on Apr 29, 2009, 05:44:59
The wife and i have just returned from a week long trip up and down the coast from Melbourne to Brisbane in our motor home, with plenty of stops along the way including Sydney where my Sister and her Husband Hardy live. How exciting you may say however Hardy is the bloke who although i have been into bikes for around 25yrs really got me into cafe racers and introduced me to Do The Ton. While visiting them he showed me the progress made and ideas for his own Suzuki cafe ( what a beast ) he also surprised me by very generously giving me a Honda Cb400f ( bored to 500 ). Needing some wiring, front brake and general tidying will turn into a nice cafe for myself, with a complete rebuild planned for after the wife's CB250rs cafe is completed, all the more reason to get hers finished now!!!!!!! So considering i had the bike trailer on behind the motor home with our Honda 600 tourer, with a couple of small mods i was able to bring the 400 back home and once i had recovered from about 3600kms of driving i spent a couple of hours looking over it and got it running so not to long before i can get out onto the road and DO THE TON !!!!! Ive added a pic at the bottom...
Title: Re: CB400f, what a great gift
Post by: andycafe on Apr 29, 2009, 06:07:39
and a couple more
Title: Re: CB400f, what a great gift
Post by: andycafe on Apr 29, 2009, 08:51:05
these are just a couple of pics from the trip when we stopped at the Australian national motorcycle museum in nabiac new south wales
Title: Re: CB400f, what a great gift
Post by: JRK5892 on Apr 29, 2009, 12:33:23
that is awesome! man you have rooo's in your back yard! ha ha ha ha only thing i have in mine is burglers!
Title: Re: CB400f, what a great gift
Post by: msimm43 on Apr 29, 2009, 14:21:55
You have to clear up your shop. Those are the biggest rats I have ever seen!

Nice work on the bike
Title: Re: CB400f, what a great gift
Post by: andycafe on Apr 29, 2009, 18:12:22
that is awesome! man you have rooo's in your back yard! ha ha ha ha only thing i have in mine is burglers!

Thats hell funny man!!!! maybe you should get a couple of roo's and a sign "never mind the owner or the dog beware of the rats!" tehehe
Title: Re: CB400f, what a great gift
Post by: andycafe on Apr 29, 2009, 18:14:49
You have to clear up your shop. Those are the biggest rats I have ever seen!

Nice work on the bike

you've seen the size of them, would you like to try and move them out? hahaha considering when there in a group there called a mob!
Title: Re: CB400f, what a great gift
Post by: MN_TX650 on Apr 29, 2009, 18:18:46
wonder what kangaroo tastes like   ???   Could use one for my trophy wall too  LOL
Title: Re: CB400f, what a great gift
Post by: andycafe on Apr 30, 2009, 17:55:28
wonder what kangaroo tastes like   ???   Could use one for my trophy wall too  LOL

Well you can legaly eat roo and it tastes like a cross between Beef, Lamb and game very tender and lean YUM YUM, Oaw noo now i feel like a roo steak!
Title: Re: CB400f, what a great gift
Post by: MN_TX650 on Apr 30, 2009, 17:57:15
Can an out of country-men come down and hunt the hoppy little bastards?
Title: Re: CB400f, what a great gift
Post by: JRK5892 on Apr 30, 2009, 18:02:38
ha ha ha ha i can just see our drunk asses in the deer roo stands... baiting with beans ha ha ha ha wonder what a 30/6 would do to that sucker... i bet they are solid as a deer.. but blood trailing one of those suckers would prob be a pain in the ASS!
Title: Re: CB400f, what a great gift
Post by: MN_TX650 on May 01, 2009, 12:25:50
I ordered my passport last week.  Lets do it man!!  Would make for some wicked funny videos.  Redneck Roo Huntin.   ;D  Check out my new camo for dove huntin

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d40/MinnTrapper/DoveCamo.jpg)

Title: Cb250Rs, finally the parts are off to be blasted and chromed!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: andycafe on May 12, 2009, 06:46:12
Here is a few pic's of the parts that have headed off to be renewed. Most of them are getting chromed while the frame is being blasted before its trip to the engineer for some fab work for the rear inner guard and seat pan... shouldn't be long now before we can start strapping it all back together!!!!
Title: Re: Back to the Cb250Rs, parts renewal underway!!!!!
Post by: DBLshotcafe on May 12, 2009, 08:18:30
Dude you dont need to hunt them, infact you cant unless you know someone who has a farm or you have a hunters licence and then again alot of the rangers around here have huge ego's, therefore make your hunting days very hard.

you can buy it at any butcher section in all supermarkets.

the best are the kanga bangas! (kangaroo sausages)

i also heard that kangaroo is one of our main exported meats. so im sure you might be able to find it in the states. if not go hunt that roo thats causing havoc in new york thats all over the news!

p.s. sorry for the hijack andy!
Title: Re: Cb250Rs, finally the parts are off to be blasted and chromed!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: andycafe on May 16, 2009, 06:56:38
Here is a few pic's of the parts that have headed off to be renewed. Most of them are getting chromed while the frame is being blasted before its trip to the engineer for some fab work for the rear inner guard and seat pan... shouldn't be long now before we can start strapping it all back together!!!!

stoked to have some of the parts back from the blasters while the rest have headed off to be chromed, cant wait to send the others of to be painted up, all good things come in time
Title: Re: Back to the Cb250Rs, parts renewal underway!!!!!
Post by: andycafe on May 16, 2009, 21:23:54
just an early mock up pic i wanted to show
Title: CB250RS Yippie!!!! picking up the chromed bits and frame tomorrow!!!!!
Post by: andycafe on May 25, 2009, 08:19:09
finally Im picking up all the chromed bits ive been waiting for and the frame is ready to collect to!!!!! so now i will be able to start with the painting and the putting back together stuff it seems like ive been waiting forever for this time to come along
Title: How do I?
Post by: andycafe on May 25, 2009, 08:25:37
hey ALL I've notice the some of you have been able to label your individual picture with captions, How do I do that????

I only ask as soon i will have a crap load of pic's and i would like to say what the hell im upto in each...

Thanks for any help with this AndyCafe.....
Title: Re: CB250RS Yippie!!! finally my bits are coming back!!!!!
Post by: jay_kent on May 25, 2009, 15:40:42
I don't know how you're uploading your images but I link my images from my website, similiar to how you would using photobucket and then I just put what I want to say by the image. so my code looks like:

Talking about my image
[img]jasonkent.ca/images/someimage.jpg[/img}

the 2nd image
[img]jasonkent.ca/images/someimage2.jpg[/img}

The ending bracket is changed for so that the code is not active.

Jay
Title: Re: CB250RS Yippie!!! finally my bits are coming back!!!!!
Post by: manchestermichael on May 25, 2009, 17:38:36
love the rs   = nice little racers   i am looking for some  rs alloy rims  to use on my cj  keep  posting   good  work
Title: Re: CB250RS Yippie!!! finally my bits are coming back!!!!!
Post by: Tim on May 25, 2009, 21:15:40
For pics - sign up at Photobucket, upload your pictures to their site, and then paste the IMG links in your posts here.  You can put text between them etc, and they'll be bigger too.   You're using the site's photo upload feature, which is fine, but it puts all the pics at the end of your post and is limited in size.
Title: Re: CB250RS Yippie!!! the're back!!!!!!
Post by: andycafe on May 26, 2009, 05:20:29
So here is some pics of the newly chromed bits, what a great thing chrome is......... this must be a good omen, there turning gold!!!!!!! lol
Title: Re: CB250RS Yippie!!! the're back!!!!!!
Post by: andycafe on May 26, 2009, 05:25:16
here's a couple of snaps of the frame mods we did, from the seat pan to the inner gaurd.....
Title: Re: CB250RS Yippie!!! the're back!!!!!!
Post by: andycafe on May 26, 2009, 05:29:50
I also picked up a replacement front gaurd, so all i need now is to get onto the front fork and wheel rebuilds before we get into the paint and the reassembly... yahoo!!!!!
Title: Re: Back to the Cb250Rs, parts renewal underway!!!!!
Post by: bradj on May 26, 2009, 05:36:08
don't kangaroo have boxing gloves ,or did I just catch cartoons in another lie
Title: Re: CB250RS Yippie!!! the're back!!!!!!
Post by: boingk on May 26, 2009, 07:53:21
Great project, I like the 250RS and GB250 Hondas, suited perfectly to cafeing and have a bit of nippiness about them which some of the smaller bikes don't. Was thinking of buying one of either, kinda jealous haha. Keep up the good stuff.

Kangaroos are quite nice, but you should see if you can try emu. Guy next to my fathers place has an emu farm...they go really well in pies with a bit of tomato sauce on top  ;D

Cheers - boingk
Title: Re: CB250RS Yippie!!! the're back!!!!!!
Post by: 88 on May 26, 2009, 09:44:13
You've got all the making of a good long weekend there bro......Don't know if you noticed the 400f thread earlier this week (i can't find it today) but it had good net parts links. If you keep going at this rate both your builds will be finished before I've even blown the dust off mine! (bike that is). Here's to a bike in every state.
Title: Re: CB250RS Yippie!!! the're back!!!!!!
Post by: andycafe on May 26, 2009, 10:24:28
You've got all the making of a good long weekend there bro......Don't know if you noticed the 400f thread earlier this week (i can't find it today) but it had good net parts links. If you keep going at this rate both your builds will be finished before I've even blown the dust off mine! (bike that is). Here's to a bike in every state.

So much fun so little time.... i checked out that 400f it was good to see and i got some ideas for that poject..  well maybe if i do finish them i could lend you a hand if you needed it, but im sure that once youve seen issi's completed and the start of the 400f rebuild if you have any spare time you be down in your workshop getting busy (on the bike build that is,LOL)
Title: Re: Back to the Cb250Rs, parts renewal underway!!!!!
Post by: andycafe on May 26, 2009, 10:27:48
don't kangaroo have boxing gloves ,or did I just catch cartoons in another lie


they only wear boxing gloves if your to chicken to fight bare knuckled hahahaha.....
Title: Re: CB250RS Yippie!!! the're back!!!!!!
Post by: andycafe on May 26, 2009, 10:35:30
Great project, I like the 250RS and GB250 Hondas, suited perfectly to cafeing and have a bit of nippiness about them which some of the smaller bikes don't. Was thinking of buying one of either, kinda jealous haha. Keep up the good stuff.

Kangaroos are quite nice, but you should see if you can try emu. Guy next to my fathers place has an emu farm...they go really well in pies with a bit of tomato sauce on top  ;D

Cheers - boingk

cheers man, im sure its going to be plenty nippy for my wife who im building it for as she only weighs around 50kgs, i like the rs because of its long tank with factory knee dents..... should come up sweet after its been to the painter for some love....
Title: Re: CB250RS, things dont always go to plan??
Post by: andycafe on May 31, 2009, 06:07:09
Well i had every entention of painting the frame and a few other bits for the bike this weekend but life got in the way??? the wife decided that she wanted to go and have a look at new homes (up side potential new workshop!!!! down side takes soooo much time!!) then we just called into a friends to say hey and found my mate had started ripping out a wall in the down stairs area for the new bar, so there gos the rest of the day i cant help myself and helped him finish pulling the wall and then building the new frame work and bar opening then relining it with plywood then plaster 1am finish!!! so today was V8 supercars and footy on the box. so anyway im behind so i think ill have to put in the effort during the week to get the oldgirl painted...
Title: Re: CB250RS stage 1, prep for painting complete...
Post by: andycafe on Jun 01, 2009, 06:08:28
Andycafe paintworks now ready, LOL :D
heres is some pics of all the paint bits hanging and ready for the etch primer........
Title: Re: CB250RS stage 1, prep for painting complete...
Post by: andycafe on Jun 01, 2009, 06:14:38
So over the next couple of days im going to start laying down some paint, hopefully by the weekend ill have them all in topcoat but i dont want to rush so wel see eh?
Title: Re: CB250RS stage 1, prep for painting complete...
Post by: Zonda on Jun 01, 2009, 06:16:01
Mate looks like wind chimes ;D what colour are you painting them?
Although i don't much like the supertaxi's, i do have a soft spot for Craig Lownds, go FPR ;D ;D ;D

Rod from OZ 8)
Title: Re: CB250RS stage 1, prep for painting complete...
Post by: andycafe on Jun 01, 2009, 06:42:23
Mate looks like wind chimes ;D what colour are you painting them?
Although i don't much like the supertaxi's, i do have a soft spot for Craig Lownds, go FPR ;D ;D ;D

Rod from OZ 8)

Hey Rod, the frame and swingarm are getting some matt black attention, the front forks, headtree, control mounts are up for some gloss silver and the rear shocks and other bits are getting some gloss black. when i get the wheels sorted their for gloss black and the tins (front/rear fenders and tank) gloss metallic blood red, while the engine is going matt black with polished alloy covers.......... oooohh its so close :P
Title: Re: CB250RS stage 1, prep for painting complete...
Post by: andycafe on Jun 01, 2009, 06:56:36
Just thought i post some more pics from the national motorcycle museum as there  seems to be some interest in those pics too,LOL  ;D
Title: Re: CB250RS stage 1, prep for painting complete...
Post by: andycafe on Jun 01, 2009, 06:59:30
and just a couple more........
Title: Re: CB250RS stage 2, epoxy etch priming complete...
Post by: andycafe on Jun 02, 2009, 09:02:50
OK so ive laid down the etch primer on all the parts i can for the moment. ill let it harden off and then im going to start top coat procedures on the frame and swing arm as there going to be matt black, then ill move onto the parts to be gloss black and lastly the parts that are going to be silver, so all going well by Friday night i should have everything painted in there respective colors... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: CB250RS stage 2, epoxy etch primeing complete...
Post by: andycafe on Jun 02, 2009, 09:08:38
just a couple more pics ( i hope im not overloading every one with happy snaps? LOL) i must say that im looking forward to seeing some other color on this project other than GREY! :P
Title: Re: CB250RS stage 2, epoxy etch priming complete...
Post by: Hancock on Jun 02, 2009, 09:23:42
Looking good Andycafe!  That primer looks similar to the stuff I am using on my cb450 project...Glasurit 801-1871 chromated 2 part epoxy.  I usually use Dupont Corlar epoxy primer over etched metal, but a friend gave me a gallon of this stuff left over from an airplane project.  I really like it although I am pretty sure it is stupid expensive compared to the Corlar I usually use.
Title: Re: CB250RS stage 2, epoxy etch priming complete...
Post by: JRK5892 on Jun 02, 2009, 10:23:08
man this is coming along great! the chorme looks bang'n! nice work man nice work
Title: Re: CB250RS stage 3, top and clear coats completed
Post by: andycafe on Jun 10, 2009, 07:28:48
Ok so here are some pics of the painted bits all finished, just need to pick up some new nuts and bolts and i can start strapping it all back together, all going well i should be able to start posting some pics of it getting bolted up!!!!!
Title: Re: CB250RS stage 3, top and clear coats completed
Post by: JRK5892 on Jun 10, 2009, 10:08:24
nice work!
Title: Re: CB250RS so i couldnt wait till the weekend to get started,,,LOL!!!!
Post by: andycafe on Jun 11, 2009, 07:53:40
couldn't wait to start reassembly  :
Title: Re: CB250RS so i had to start putting her back together before the weekend didnt I
Post by: 88 on Jun 11, 2009, 08:38:27
Slow down.....I feel sick
Title: Re: CB250RS so i had to start putting her back together before the weekend didnt I
Post by: monteboy84 on Jun 11, 2009, 09:34:28
Damn dude, looking slick. I love your garage by the way, I think you need some vintage bike-related signs to hang on the walls  8)

-matt
Title: Re: CB250RS so i had to start putting her back together before the weekend didnt I
Post by: JRK5892 on Jun 11, 2009, 12:17:01
nice man!
Title: Re: CB250RS so i had to start putting her back together before the weekend didnt I
Post by: Hancock on Jun 11, 2009, 19:13:38
Looking awesome!
Title: Re: CB250RS so i had to start putting her back together before the weekend didnt I
Post by: andycafe on Jun 12, 2009, 09:15:06
Hey all, well i got the tank and gaurd back from the blaster today so i decided to set the up on the bike just to get a feel for how she is starting to look after renewing the other parts so far. Along with those bits i also got the wheels back from the powder coated and they look great!!! i was looking back through the pics of how everything looked before the refresh and must say that im stoked with them all.. so the plan for the weekend is to repaint the motor (matt black) and get it mounted back into the frame, prep and paint the other parts to the wheels and my friend Peter is coming over to lend a hand with polishing the rear brake hub, engine side covers, valve covers and speedo hub, should come up great!!, the only down side at the moment is i have a 3wk wait for some new bits to arrive for the swing arm and a couple of other bits. Any way there is still plenty of other things to take care of like the redoing the wiring loom, and gettins the front brake caliper, and the new bar controls, headlight and new pegs..... so still plenty....... So here is some pics of the tins mock up.......
Title: Re: CB250RS Tins mock up
Post by: andycafe on Jun 12, 2009, 09:20:38
PS: Thanks for all your comments!! its great to get feedback on the project. soon im going to have to start asking a crap load of questions of you all as i start to head into areas of this build that im not 100% sure of. Im sure that with all the knowlege from the people on this forum we can get it done!!!! Thanks Andycafe.......
Title: Re: CB250RS Tins mock up
Post by: jayellay on Jun 12, 2009, 19:29:00
Andycafe,
 Havenít seen one of these bikes in a long time. Have only read about them. they are supposed to be really good handling bikes. Do you know if they are sold in the U.S.?

Canít wait to see what this turns out like. looks great so far.

Jay


PS: Thanks for all your comments!! its great to get feedback on the project. soon im going to have to start asking a crap load of questions of you all as i start to head into areas of this build that im not 100% sure of. Im sure that with all the knowlege from the people on this forum we can get it done!!!! Thanks Andycafe.......
Title: Re: CB250RS Tins mock up
Post by: builder on Jun 14, 2009, 02:27:55
wanna sell the CB400? i m in melbourne.
Title: Re: CB250RS Tins mock up
Post by: andycafe on Jun 14, 2009, 05:40:46
Andycafe,
 Havenít seen one of these bikes in a long time. Have only read about them. they are supposed to be really good handling bikes. Do you know if they are sold in the U.S.?

Canít wait to see what this turns out like. looks great so far.

Jay


Hey Jay, Im not sure if they sell them in the us but i wouldnt be supprised if they do, if you really want one you could always look at having a complete one shipped over. i have seen about 3 on ebay for around $1500.ausd not perfict but road going..... cheers Andycafe.
Title: Re: CB250RS Tins mock up
Post by: andycafe on Jun 14, 2009, 05:45:27
wanna sell the CB400? i m in melbourne.
hey, Nice try but no, after ive finished this cb for the wife ill be starting that bike project for me.... besides it was a gift from my bro so it has even more meaning to me now... Cheers Andycafe :D
Title: Re: CB250RS so i had to start putting her back together before the weekend didnt I
Post by: andycafe on Jun 14, 2009, 05:47:01
Slow down.....I feel sick
  :D I would but theres NO BRAKES!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: CB250RS so i had to start putting her back together before the weekend didnt I
Post by: andycafe on Jun 14, 2009, 05:53:23
Damn dude, looking slick. I love your garage by the way, I think you need some vintage bike-related signs to hang on the walls  8)

-matt
Hey Matt  thanks man, I have been thinking of arting up the old shed, making up some big canvas ( 6' by 3' ) panels and just blank and white shadows of some oldschool bikes (and riders) and putting them up, maybe even doing them as the old oil/sparkplug/etc...signs??? just have to finish all the bike painting first, may have some time while im waiting for some parts i ordered to arrive.
Title: Re: CB250RS so i had to start putting her back together before the weekend didnt I
Post by: andycafe on Jun 14, 2009, 05:59:09
nice man!
Cheers Bro, ive taken a leson from you and ive been hiting the emergency drinks hard not sleeping and walking my pet kangaroo at speed to try and keep up with your pace LOL, maybe not but im happing with how things are getting along  :D ;D
Title: Re: CB250RS so i had to start putting her back together before the weekend didnt I
Post by: andycafe on Jun 14, 2009, 06:03:31
Looking awesome!
cheers Hancock, after checking out your workmanship i value your judgement highly, Thanks Andycafe. ;D
Title: Re: CB250RS Tins mock up
Post by: Zonda on Jun 14, 2009, 06:41:46
Hey fancy a road trip to Sydney, ;D oh they are sooooo tempting, on evilbay 270408340205

Rod from OZ 8)   
Title: Re: CB250RS Tins mock up
Post by: 88 on Jun 14, 2009, 07:02:45
Chur
Title: Re: CB250RS Tins mock up
Post by: andycafe on Jun 15, 2009, 02:47:05
Hey fancy a road trip to Sydney, ;D oh they are sooooo tempting, on evilbay 270408340205

Rod from OZ 8)   
road trip, road trip, road trip!!!! LOL just checked them bikes out, more complete than mine was and having 2 means heaps of spares!! the cb250n is also a good bike sim but has the round headlight, check this one in syd 330337523377
Title: Re: CB250RS OH Yeah!!!
Post by: andycafe on Jun 24, 2009, 06:30:11
Evening all.. so I've had quite a bit of motivation over the past couple of weeks and have really got stuck into the build. Yesterday i picked up my wheels from being rerubbered and a heap of other new parts (i had a big list of wants,,LOL)
1: LH+RH switches
2: front brake master and caliper
3: Speedo, Tacho, Throttle cables
4: 2x exhausts
5: alloy foot pegs
6: Mini speedo and tacho instruments
7: hand grips and bar ends
8: front and rear wheel sealed bearing kits
some list eh?, and I'm still waiting for some bits to come from the factory. Just leaves the head and tail lights, indicators, Battery, and carb rebuild with pod filter...........

any way I've rebuilt the wheels, painted the engine and polished the side covers. rebuilt the wiring loom and fitted all that gear to the little gem, now shes starting to get some meat on her bones!!!LOL... The tanks off getting some nasty bits fixed and once that's done that and the fenders are ready for some paint too.. we decided on a metallic mid red which should make this whole deal POP.... so here is a couple of pics of where were at as of now......
Title: Re: CB250RS OH Yeah!!!
Post by: andycafe on Jun 24, 2009, 06:35:51
I thought id share a couple of other CB250rs bikes pics I've found, a couple that have been Caffed and a couple that have been Bobbed. Yes i know its hard to believe but they are all CB250rs
Title: Re: CB250RS OH Yeah!!!
Post by: 88 on Jun 24, 2009, 07:03:08
looking good brother, I'm not sold on that stock rear fender though, looks like a plastic off an XT! Yeah Yeah I know 'Shut up and play your guitar' 
Title: Re: CB250RS OH Yeah!!!
Post by: Zonda on Jun 24, 2009, 08:27:10
Man you are soooo lucky not having to do an engine rebuild, makes building a scoot a lot quicker ;D ;D keep up the great work and don't let that VIC weather get you down, at this rate you'll be finished for spring :o

Rod from OZ 8)
Title: Re: CB250RS OH Yeah!!!
Post by: andycafe on Jun 24, 2009, 08:46:32
looking good brother, I'm not sold on that stock rear fender though, looks like a plastic off an XT! Yeah Yeah I know 'Shut up and play your guitar'  
LOL, with the tank on it balances out that rear guard though, and with a little color I'm sure you'll like it......
PS have you heard about the cafe builder / shop over in Richmond? Sam Speer. www.speermotorcycles.blogspot.com 
Title: Re: CB250RS OH Yeah!!!
Post by: andycafe on Jun 24, 2009, 09:02:14
Man you are soooo lucky not having to do an engine rebuild, makes building a scoot a lot quicker ;D ;D keep up the great work and don't let that VIC weather get you down, at this rate you'll be finished for spring :o

Rod from OZ 8)

Yeah im stoked that the engine was sweet! but there is always something else that needs some love eh, I dont have to worry about the weather in my workshop as i have an industrial heater in it LOL... PS have you heard about the cafe builder / shop over in Richmond? Sam Speer. www.speermotorcycles.blogspot.com 
Title: Re: CB250RS OH Yeah!!!
Post by: DBLshotcafe on Jun 24, 2009, 09:30:47
i never knew there was a place in richmond! holy shit thats awesome news, thanks man  ;D

looking great by the way!
Title: Re: CB250RS OH Yeah!!!
Post by: andycafe on Jun 25, 2009, 07:21:59
SOoo anyway i had a few suppliers call me today and my bits from Nippon have arrived!!! New swing arm bushes, case gaskets, side & center stand springs and a couple of other assorted goodies (yay!) i received word that my tank will be ready Mon/Tues and my machinist will have the new front calliper mount done then too, so all going well i should have the tank and fenders out to paint next week and back on the little gem the following week, so in the mean time i have a few things to button up and keep my mind off the tins Tehehe :D

I have already mount the new alloy pegs and will start sorting out how to mount up the new twin exhaust system over the weekend, im going to hold off on new pics till i get the Tins back from the painter, i hope you all can wait (I CANT!!) LOL LOL HA HA... ;D
Title: Re: CB250RS OH Yeah!!!
Post by: Zonda on Jun 26, 2009, 00:21:39
it's got'a be done by the 1Sep09 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Rod from OZ 8)
Title: Re: CB250RS OH Yeah!!!
Post by: andycafe on Jun 26, 2009, 09:42:33
OK i picked up my gear from Nippon today and was stoked to find that the kick and center stand springs i ordered and was told would just be in a nickel finish, were actually CHROME!!! sweet.. i also couldn't help myself and i pick up a headlight, A 7" full metal CHROMED round beauty!!! (yum yum) as-well as a nice case breather filter like a pod for your carb.. I'd seen a couple of bikes here with them and loved the idea. I did a little bit of work on the little gem mainly hooking up the rear brake links, but i also fitted the new swing arm bushes (another lose end tightened up LOL) so tomorrow i think I'm going to pick up a new flasher can so that i can finish some more of the wiring stuff, and since I've got the new case gaskets I'm might be able to fit them up too (ill see how i go) Anyway good progress made, very happy and cant wait to get the tank back to check the lines on her........ I think I've figured out how i want to fit up the new silencers... man i have to calm down... but i so close LOL :) :D ;D
Title: Re: CB250RS OH Yeah!!!
Post by: andycafe on Jun 26, 2009, 09:54:05
Ps Mr 88 thats one sweet pic you finaly got up bro LOL  :D
Title: Re: CB250RS OH Yeah!!!
Post by: JRK5892 on Jun 26, 2009, 11:12:56
one question for you bud... did they unlace the wheels prior to powder... if not man i really hope you trued them in perfect before getting them coated... if you have any kind of a shim or a whoble over 20mph you are going to have to cut the spokes out, strip all the powder, relace and THEN you can true them.... if they are powdered as a whole you can never true the wheel again.  just a heads up on that... bike is looking nails man! nice work
Title: Re: CB250RS OH Yeah!!!
Post by: andycafe on Jun 26, 2009, 22:09:37
Hey Joe, yeah the wheels are straight as a die  :) they did have to put 1 balancer weight on the front after they fitted the rubber to them, but that's to be expected  :D so I'm sure were going to be OK, cheers for the info, you have such a wealth of knowledge that i always appreciate  ;D
Title: Re: CB250RS OH Yeah!!!
Post by: andycafe on Jul 11, 2009, 20:21:05
Ok an update, Well we have made a lot of progress on the gem, i have mounted the new 7" headlight and both of the new mini instruments, plus the ignition switch and buttoned up all the wiring inside the headlight shell, the new hand controls are on with new grips and bar ends, the front indicators are on and looking sweet ( the rears have to wait for the rear guard to return ) i got some new stainless Allen bolts and mounted up the left case cover ( still waiting for the right to return ) mounted up the front brake caliper after some moding and set up the rear brake, so now I'm waiting for those other bits to come back, we finally picked the color for the tins which is a mid metallic red call Koral Candy its sooo good with a unbelievable depth!! anyway they should be back in 7 days so ill post up some pic's then...

Question: i have noticed that front wheel is not line up with the handlebars when they are straight, i know that losening off the head clamps a twisting should fix the problem but is they a right way to do this ? ie: just the bottom clamps, just one side of both top and bottom clamps ? HELP Cheers andycafe
Title: Re: CB250RS Update and question?
Post by: hillsy on Jul 11, 2009, 20:50:54
Are you sure your fork are straight (IE- not bent) ? An easy way to do this (if they're still in the clamps) is to loosen the triple bolts and twist the forks around in the trees whilst holding the lowers still. I they are bent you will see the lowers move forward and back.

And did the front guard have a brace in it? This will help line up the forks too.

Other than that, line them up the best you can and tighten away...
Title: Re: And with that we are 90% complete! (includes update pic's)
Post by: andycafe on Jul 21, 2009, 07:48:13
OK so here we are, now that i have the tank and guards back on the little gem all we have to do now is the carb rebuild, pipes, front brake line, get the seat covered and fit a chain!!!!! (yeehaaa! LOL)... as you can see I've been busy and have buttoned up all the wiring (apart from the lights on its bum) fitted the headlight and gauges up, the controls and new pegs, the front brake caliper has been modded and installed. so for the moment I'm just sitting looking starry eyed at her HAHAHA... anyway hope you like the pics... Cheers Andycafe

Title: Re: And with that we are 90% complete! (includes update pic's)
Post by: andycafe on Jul 21, 2009, 07:51:08
and some more!
Title: Re: And with that we are 90% complete! (includes update pic's)
Post by: go mama! on Jul 21, 2009, 09:22:26
awesome!!!
it's so cute!!!
Title: Re: And with that we are 90% complete! (includes update pic's)
Post by: 88 on Jul 22, 2009, 04:42:40
Sweet
Title: Re: And with that we are 90% complete! (includes update pic's)
Post by: manchestermichael on Oct 19, 2009, 10:30:20
any updates finished? i love this build  gr8 work
Title: Re: And with that we are 90% complete! (includes update pic's)
Post by: andycafe on Jan 04, 2010, 07:41:50
any updates finished? i love this build  gr8 work
hey man ive been offline for a bit sorry for the late reply. no more updates yet, we have gone into full save for a house mode which means all bikes and my wkshop have been boxed up and put into storage. short term pain long term gain. we should have her completed and the next project started by mid 2010, cheers Andycafe
Title: Re: on hold to we get the house ( new wkshop )
Post by: manchestermichael on Apr 05, 2010, 20:50:46
hay i just  picked up a rs to cafe did you test fit the  cb 400 tank   to the rs at all  ? would love to no if it  came close to fiting thanks
Title: reply to manchestermichael
Post by: andycafe on Apr 13, 2010, 08:18:41
hay i just  picked up a rs to cafe did you test fit the  cb 400 tank   to the rs at all  ? would love to no if it  came close to fiting thanks
hey man, i didnt try the 400 tank but weve just bought our house so they will both be off the trailer in 4 weeks so i can check it out for you if you can hang on till then?
Title: Re: reply to manchestermichael
Post by: dcmspikes on Apr 13, 2010, 21:24:36
how did i miss this?  i love that rear fender.  great work here
Title: Re: Ground work prep started for new workshop, FINALY!!!!!!
Post by: andycafe on Sep 26, 2010, 02:30:40
ground work for my new workshop has started.
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project revisited
Post by: andycafe on Jun 02, 2012, 21:34:40
Now that the workshop is coming along it wont be to long before I can complete the last few things of the wifes cafe, so I thought I would revisit the build and reload the pic's for those who didn't see it first time around... enjoy Andy......
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project revisited
Post by: boobby on Jun 04, 2012, 23:42:25
love it, i have been thinking about doing one of these 250's for a while
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project revisited
Post by: andycafe on Jul 12, 2012, 07:56:41
love it, i have been thinking about doing one of these 250's for a while

I'm glad you like it, can't wait to finsh it and see the wife twisting the grip up the fwy on it  ;D
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project revisited
Post by: MickyC on Aug 04, 2012, 23:18:55
nice build buddy it will be good to get her in the garage and finish it off. cant believe i missed this one hahaha, you need more pic updates on this bad boy. money and houses kills bike builds thatís for sure so i sympathise i hate the feeling of wanting to finish something but itís just out of reach due to other commitments it kills ya.

Nabiac bike museum is wicked hay been there like 3 times every time i head up north i stop in. last time was at autumnfest worth a visit next time youíre heading up north check it out: 

http://www.autumnfest.com.au/

ps love the van/trailer rig very jealous think i may need to look in to motor homes for a bike/surf trip up north or down to melb
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project revisited
Post by: SeekingZero on Aug 05, 2012, 02:12:41
Huge difference from what you started with! Looks very nice, great job.
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project revisited
Post by: andycafe on Aug 05, 2012, 20:29:02
nice build buddy it will be good to get her in the garage and finish it off. cant believe i missed this one hahaha.

Nabiac bike museum is wicked hay been there like 3 times every time i head up north i stop in. last time was at autumnfest worth a visit next time youíre heading up north check it out: 

http://www.autumnfest.com.au/

ps love the van/trailer rig very jealous think i may need to look in to motor homes for a bike/surf trip up north or down to melb

Thanks man, yeah I'm really looking forward to finishing her up, she keeps taunting me  ;D

A buddy of my plays in a Rockabilly band "Sonita & the Incinerators" so hopefully they play autumnfest and ill get a pass ;)

ps the Van is great! shame we havent had a chance to use it properly for a couple of years, but by the end of the year things should be done to a point we have time  ::)
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project revisited
Post by: andycafe on Aug 05, 2012, 20:32:16
Huge difference from what you started with! Looks very nice, great job.

Thanks, I'm definitely a fan of rejuvenating so this was right up my alley, i'm stoked you like it, just want her finished  :)
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project revisited
Post by: andycafe on Sep 08, 2012, 03:35:33
cheeky little build video  ::)


http://youtu.be/_MwEoR57zHk







 
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project revisited
Post by: Erskine on Sep 08, 2012, 12:08:02
love the sound track, class build :)
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project revisited
Post by: MickyC on Sep 10, 2012, 04:26:43
awesome little vid mate well done
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project revisited
Post by: andycafe on Mar 18, 2013, 07:50:00
Ok so I picked up my new Motorcycle work tabke tonight and i'm stoked with it  I slid the cafe racer onto it as soon as I got home and I think I can feel some motivation coming on Also I picked up 3 more boards like I used for my bench tops and i'll make large single doors for my work benches out of them once I cut them to fit between the posts. Also I think now I should intall the 2x5' fluro lights for the lifter work area 
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project revisited
Post by: andycafe on Mar 18, 2013, 07:51:45
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Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project revisited
Post by: nixon on Mar 24, 2013, 00:06:01

great work thus far!! that stand will save your back for sure. Are you going to make your own seat & get it upholstered?

Im interested in how you set up the speedo, indicators & headlight. Did the original headlight bracket have the indicator bolted on?

ive got an 81 xl250 running 6v and its the main area I'm going to need help with, electrics arrg.   
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project revisited
Post by: andycafe on Mar 24, 2013, 01:59:58
great work thus far!! that stand will save your back for sure. Are you going to make your own seat & get it upholstered?

Im interested in how you set up the speedo, indicators & headlight. Did the original headlight bracket have the indicator bolted on?

ive got an 81 xl250 running 6v and its the main area I'm going to need help with, electrics arrg.   

Thanks nixon, yeah i've made a set pan which i'll have upholstered in black leather :)  I used after market headlight mounts and fitted the Indicators to them, I also used a set to custom mount the mini speed & tach :)
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project
Post by: andycafe on Mar 25, 2013, 06:52:32
Right then, The wife picked the tail light from the 2 I had for it and I think it's gonna look good. It has a cast alloy base with a plate holder and the light has a nice chrome bezel to finish, What do you think?
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project
Post by: andycafe on Mar 26, 2013, 07:25:55
Huzzah :D I finally found the sump plug  ;D I also pulled out the original choke cable which i'm going to reuse but relocate where you operate it from to under the battery box. I have the front chain ring cover plate which needs to be reformed (its nylon) and polished, still I need to get a chain before I need it  ::)
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project
Post by: andycafe on Mar 27, 2013, 07:47:51
I fitted up the taillight base tonight, definitely happy with it  ;D Slipped the light in, now just need to finish the wiring and that will be the end of the electrical stuff  :)
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project
Post by: Tim on Mar 27, 2013, 08:50:39
Man, that rear fender is the shit.

Glad to see progress continues!  Looks like you're getting pretty close.
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project
Post by: Maritime on Mar 27, 2013, 08:57:19
That light really suits the back end and fender shape.
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project
Post by: Texasstar on Mar 27, 2013, 22:57:40
Man, that rear fender is the shit.

Glad to see progress continues!  Looks like you're getting pretty close.
+1
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project
Post by: Frankenfe on Mar 27, 2013, 23:03:35
That rear fender is the shit, love the waffle pattern and the tail is just right.

If I can be so bold .....I'd trade out the "filler" Socket Screws with stainless Button Heads....I think would be a "Smoother" look 
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project
Post by: andycafe on Mar 28, 2013, 06:31:35
Man, that rear fender is the shit.

Glad to see progress continues!  Looks like you're getting pretty close.

Thanks man  ;D it's about time eh  ;) :D
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project
Post by: andycafe on Mar 28, 2013, 06:38:47
That light really suits the back end and fender shape.

Cheers M, yeah I got real lucky with the base  :) It really does follow the fender like it was made for it  ;D
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project
Post by: andycafe on Mar 28, 2013, 06:44:39
That rear fender is the shit, love the waffle pattern and the tail is just right.

If I can be so bold .....I'd trade out the "filler" Socket Screws with stainless Button Heads....I think would be a "Smoother" look

 :D

Yes you can  ;) your right those ones do stand out to much, I think some stainless button's would be perfect 8)
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project
Post by: andycafe on Mar 29, 2013, 05:50:48
Made up the bracket to mount the choke tonight which bolts on to the back of the battery box, I bent it so that the cable end wouldn't stick out the other side to far and so when the filter is on the carb you'll still be able to get to it. I had to put the flat edge on the mounting hole so it wouldn't turn (bit of filing with small round and flat files fix that up) came up good just needs to be painted now  :D
Title: Cb250rs cafe project
Post by: Nevergrew on Mar 31, 2013, 21:31:45
Coming along nicely Andy. Did you ride the bike before the rebuild? I rode my RS just yesterday for the first time in mock up and was very impressed with the little single 250.

Keep up the good work man
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project
Post by: jayellay on Apr 01, 2013, 16:07:33
this is a great build. props to you. if you dont mind, iím copying some of your ideas.
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project
Post by: andycafe on Apr 02, 2013, 07:16:40
Coming along nicely Andy. Did you ride the bike before the rebuild? I rode my RS just yesterday for the first time in mock up and was very impressed with the little single 250.

Keep up the good work man

Thanks man  ;D
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project
Post by: andycafe on Apr 02, 2013, 07:17:32
this is a great build. props to you. if you dont mind, iím copying some of your ideas.

Cheers  ;) Help yourself if there useful  :D
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: andycafe on Apr 02, 2013, 07:34:43
So today while I was at the bike shop finalizing the new bike paperwork ;D I picked up a new battery and chain  8) As soon as I got home I slipped them both on  ;D It was then I thought "well why don't you start it?" So I fuelled it, oiled it and gave it a kick or 3or 10 :o It was then that I remembered I needed to rebuild the carb :( Well I rebuilt it in about 30min and strapped it back in, 4 kicks and she started and idled perfectly  ;D anyway by now it was 9pm (on a school night) so I shut her off and when I get home from work tomorrow i'll give her another go and maybe even a little ride in the court  :o  ;D

Note: When I get the seat covered, i'll get him to make a battery pouch to match  ;D
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: andycafe on Apr 02, 2013, 07:36:00
& on & in
Title: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: Nevergrew on Apr 02, 2013, 08:07:16
Well done mate, how cool are these little thumpers?!!

Did you just quote your bike model for the chain or measure it and go from there ?
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: andycafe on Apr 02, 2013, 08:11:56
Well done mate, how cool are these little thumpers?!!

Did you just quote your bike model for the chain or measure it and go from there ?

Well it's bloody loud without silencers on it at the mo  ;D Yip just quoted the bike  ;)
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: Texasstar on Apr 02, 2013, 09:55:22
Very nice! How are you jetted?
Title: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: Nevergrew on Apr 03, 2013, 04:06:22
Mate, I'm doing my wiring at the moment and was wondering what the two connections (small) coming from the left hand switch block are for? The exact replicas on the right hand switch block are for brake lever switch, but I'm stuffed if I know what the left side is for.

Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: andycafe on Apr 03, 2013, 05:37:34
Very nice! How are you jetted?

I'm using the standard jetting and will be getting a K&N pod air filter for the rs to keep the air flow the same ;D
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: andycafe on Apr 03, 2013, 05:42:23
Mate, I'm doing my wiring at the moment and was wondering what the two connections (small) coming from the left hand switch block are for? The exact replicas on the right hand switch block are for brake lever switch, but I'm stuffed if I know what the left side is for.

The clutch switch works with the neutral switch so that if the bikes in gear you can't start it without the clutch pulled in  ;) hope that helps, cheers andy.....
Title: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: Nevergrew on Apr 03, 2013, 06:36:50
Oh...interesting. Cut - delete - next....

Thanks
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: andycafe on Apr 08, 2013, 07:44:46
Ok so after some motivational nudging from dwi (cheers mate  ;) ) i've finally pulled my finger out and welded in the 2 seat mount bolts to the pan, now it's ready to be upholstered  ;D I have put it in the van in the hope i'll get to them this week  :o Plus I took the measurements for the battery cover  :)
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: andycafe on Apr 08, 2013, 09:13:02
While i'm organizing parts  :) i've ordered up some exhaust wrap (15m x 50mm) and the K&N air filter  :o Love ordering parts, Love getting them more  ;D
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: MickyC on Apr 10, 2013, 07:47:49
Think ill have to look at those K&N filters if the uni filters I have don't turn out I think. Good to see the seat going places hahaha awesome man looking good so far
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: andycafe on Apr 17, 2013, 17:14:08
Finally I dropped off the seat to be covered  ;D in the end it will have 30mm pleats and the sides will be solid  8) should have it back in a couple of weeks  :)
Also received my K&N, did a test fit and I think it looks great  ;D what do you recon?
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: Swapmeet Louie on Apr 17, 2013, 17:16:02
I like it... Alot.
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: MickyC on Apr 18, 2013, 06:08:56
Looks clean mate nice one
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: andycafe on May 02, 2013, 06:45:30
Well finally we have a set  ;D super stoked with the job done on it  ;)
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: andycafe on May 02, 2013, 06:47:14
on
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: andycafe on May 02, 2013, 06:51:30
And it seems the my exhaust header wrap has been lost   :-\ , heard back from the supplier today who has sent another today  :o hope it arrives soon so I can get the pipes on  :D
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: MickyC on May 02, 2013, 07:10:44
Seat came out wicked mate
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: Maritime on May 02, 2013, 08:44:40
Wow seat look tits.  Are you doing anything to cover the tank mount and side cover holes on the tank?
Title: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: Nevergrew on May 02, 2013, 18:28:28
Wow seat look tits.  Are you doing anything to cover the tank mount and side cover holes on the tank?
I was gunna ask the same thing?

Btw - seat looks great.
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: BoJordan on May 02, 2013, 20:53:26
mate well done, this looks sick so far! can you please please please let me know how you go with the twin exhaust. i want to do the same or something similar to my xl250S but I am affraid of power loss.
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: andycafe on May 03, 2013, 06:05:20
Seat came out wicked mate
Cheers mate, very happy :)

Wow seat look tits.  Are you doing anything to cover the tank mount and side cover holes on the tank?

I was gunna ask the same thing?

Btw - seat looks great.

Thanks guys,, yeah i'd like to build a shroud that will cover the tank mount and follow the shape of the tank down to cover the side cover mount holes.
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: Texasstar on May 03, 2013, 06:11:04
on
looks great
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: Texasstar on May 03, 2013, 06:13:17
Seat came out wicked mate
+100
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: andycafe on May 03, 2013, 06:17:57
mate well done, this looks sick so far! can you please please please let me know how you go with the twin exhaust. i want to do the same or something similar to my xl250S but I am affraid of power loss.

I'm glad you like it :) The cb250rs has the dual pipes as factory and i'm only upgrading the cans. You can also get an aftermarket 2 into 1 system for it. You could use a 1 to 2 system if you keep the same combined output as a single
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: andycafe on May 03, 2013, 06:18:44
+100

Thanks  ;D
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: BoJordan on May 03, 2013, 07:01:42
I'm glad you like it :) The cb250rs has the dual pipes as factory and i'm only upgrading the cans. You can also get an aftermarket 2 into 1 system for it. You could use a 1 to 2 system if you keep the same combined output as a single
Oh ok, well the engine on an xl250s is pretty much the same isn't it? So do you think I will be right getting twin headers meant for a cb250rs? I am wanting to move away from a 2 into 1 system as that is what was stock.
Cheers
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: andycafe on May 03, 2013, 08:25:50
Oh ok, well the engine on an xl250s is pretty much the same isn't it? So do you think I will be right getting twin headers meant for a cb250rs? I am wanting to move away from a 2 into 1 system as that is what was stock.
Cheers

Yeah they are pretty much the same, I couldn't see a problem with changing to the rs headers as long as the port flange on the pipe is the same diameter. I'll have mine off over the weekend so i'll measure it for you... :)
Title: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: Nevergrew on May 03, 2013, 18:02:03
Bojordan - personally, if you still have your original exhaust (in particular, the flange) I'd drop the bike of at an exhaust shop and have him manufacture whatever exhaust lines you wish. Finding a cheap pair of used RS in good nick might be hard, and buying new is silly I reckon. Go full custom mate

Andy - great idea re. cover plate man.
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: BoJordan on May 03, 2013, 19:36:43
Bojordan - personally, if you still have your original exhaust (in particular, the flange) I'd drop the bike of at an exhaust shop and have him manufacture whatever exhaust lines you wish. Finding a cheap pair of used RS in good nick might be hard, and buying new is silly I reckon. Go full custom mate

Andy - great idea re. cover plate man.
Cheers man, yeah I was thinking of going custom, I just wanted to know if a twin exhaust on a single was going to work well or not. If the cb250rs twin exhaust worked then I was going to use it as the design for a custom twin exhaust. I just don't know how much $$$ I will be looking at:/
Title: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: Nevergrew on May 03, 2013, 23:52:02
I run the original exhaust and mufflers on mine and think it sounds great stock. Not too (annoyingly) loud at speed and idles perfectly with a beautiful bop bop bop.. Seems to have plenty of poke too - for a little 250 thumper.

My only reason to go custom is if you want to change the lines of the pipe and/or mufflers location.
Title: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: Nevergrew on May 03, 2013, 23:52:34
Apologies for the hijack Andy, I'll stop now.....
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: andycafe on May 04, 2013, 03:50:40
Apologies for the hijack Andy, I'll stop now.....

I wouldn't call a discussion about exhaust setup a hijack  ;) even if it's not mine specifically  ;D
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: andycafe on May 18, 2013, 03:05:06
So I need to find more than 5 minutes to work on this  ::) The exhaust wrap arrived and I have the can's, I hope to get this part buttoned up soon  :)
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: MickyC on May 19, 2013, 03:56:25
Nice pipes man get those bad boys on I want to hear her purr
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: Brodie on May 21, 2013, 03:49:03
Just remember to wear glove or wash your hands with solvol after you do the wrapping. I am a hypocrite of course and always end up covered in itch as hell fiberglass. Will be good to see it with the pipes on
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: Islandstar on May 21, 2013, 08:58:07
on
Nice build...how did you fasten the seat to the bike?
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: andycafe on May 22, 2013, 06:46:33
Nice pipes man get those bad boys on I want to hear her purr
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: andycafe on May 22, 2013, 06:46:54
Just remember to wear glove or wash your hands with solvol after you do the wrapping. I am a hypocrite of course and always end up covered in itch as hell fiberglass. Will be good to see it with the pipes on
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: andycafe on May 22, 2013, 06:49:28
Nice build...how did you fasten the seat to the bike?

like this  :)  (http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=7941.msg531771#msg531771)
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: andycafe on May 25, 2013, 23:00:05
Last nights festivities  :o & maybe a cheeky Friday call past  8)
Title: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: Nevergrew on Jun 11, 2013, 19:54:35
Updates ?
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: MickyC on Jun 12, 2013, 09:04:19
Updates ?

X2

:)
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: andycafe on Jul 29, 2013, 21:36:45
Updates ?

X2

:)

Sorry boy's, I have been super busy at work lately  :o great for my pocket bad for spare time. I have this and next week off, my sister is down till Wednesday from Sydney then I hope to be able to put some spanner time in  ;D
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: Brodie on Jul 29, 2013, 21:40:54
Looking forward to seeing what you come up with mate.
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: mike53 on Aug 17, 2013, 21:09:30
Enjoyed reading this build so far! Would love to do something similar with my RS, keep up the updates  :)
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: andycafe on Dec 14, 2013, 03:21:16
Enjoyed reading this build so far! Would love to do something similar with my RS, keep up the updates  :)


Thanks mate, sorry it's been a while for the update :-[
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: andycafe on Dec 14, 2013, 03:32:38
Ok so I had to make an extension for the air filter so that the throttle body on the carb didn't foul on it :)  I threaded the shaft on the choke so that I could attach a new head  ;) Then I replaced the fuel tap as the original had leaky seals an this type of tape can't be rebuilt  ???
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: andycafe on Dec 14, 2013, 03:38:17
Next Thing I got to was covering the bright yellow battery  :o Originally I had spoken to the same guy who had covered the seat but he really stuggle with what I wanted to do  :( So in the end the solution was stupidly simple  ;D can you guess ?
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project "IT'S ALIVE"
Post by: andycafe on Dec 14, 2013, 03:43:09
The last thing I got to was the front sprocket cover, needed to give it a bit of a straighten with the help of a heat gun  :P  Functional  ;D
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project
Post by: andycafe on Dec 19, 2013, 02:35:54
I have my eye on these pipes, anybody had dealings with these guy's ? any good?n

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/390621154473?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2648
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project
Post by: andycafe on Dec 30, 2013, 00:47:44
Had a look around for some new tyres and found this combo of 110/90 rear (4.00) and 100/90 front @ $220 ride away, what do you think??
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project
Post by: Maritime on Dec 30, 2013, 09:07:51
When you say ride away, I assume that mean mounted and balanced and back on the bike for 220? If so, good deal.  I payed 135 US for the same 2 tyres here, then had to mount and balance myself.
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project
Post by: Texasstar on Dec 30, 2013, 10:21:23
Had a look around for some new tyres and found this combo of 110/90 rear (4.00) and 100/90 front @ $220 ride away, what do you think??
have you checked out the sava mc7s? 3.0's rated at 106mph 40 bucks each and if you use the code 2013 you will get 18% off...just bought 2
https://www.treatland.tv/sava-MC7-moped-tire-p/sava-mc7-18x3.00-tire.htm


Here is the tire chart if you are worried about buying from a moped place

http://www.savatech.eu/?Itemid=94

And if you want to go skinny we are running some 2.5 mc11 and they are good to 94mph
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project
Post by: andycafe on Dec 30, 2013, 16:49:59
When you say ride away, I assume that mean mounted and balanced and back on the bike for 220? If so, good deal.  I payed 135 US for the same 2 tyres here, then had to mount and balance myself.
Hey, yes mounted was what I meant but with me removing and refitting the wheels to the bike's  :) That's the easy part right  ;D
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe project
Post by: andycafe on Dec 30, 2013, 16:54:31
have you checked out the sava mc7s? 3.0's rated at 106mph 40 bucks each and if you use the code 2013 you will get 18% off...just bought 2
https://www.treatland.tv/sava-MC7-moped-tire-p/sava-mc7-18x3.00-tire.htm


Here is the tire chart if you are worried about buying from a moped place

http://www.savatech.eu/?Itemid=94

And if you want to go skinny we are running some 2.5 mc11 and they are good to 94mph

Wow thanks fir those links  ;D Those are great prices and the do have tyres sizes I like, unfortunately I think shipping 2 sets to Australia from the States would level out the prices with fitment. I'll definitely hold onto those links though, there great ;)
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: andycafe on Jan 02, 2014, 06:56:59
Ordered the tyres today they should be Here by the end of the month  ;D also since now I have to builds going I needed to build an extra... :o Check my workshop build thread to see  ;D
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: andycafe on Jan 04, 2014, 10:42:30
Soooo I've been playing with the tuning on her and was finding she started to break down higher in the revs  ??? theeen I remembered that I had forgotten to put the spring back on the jet that holds the seal up, I had an Ohhhh riiiight moment  :-[ I refitted said spring and adjusted the jet out 1&3/4 turns as specified in the workshop manual  ::) anywho it's to late to fire her up now so Tomorrow it is, I'll keep you informed   ;)
Title: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: Nevergrew on Jan 04, 2014, 16:40:23
Have you rejetted it mate? I've just finished the tune on mine from trial and error over a couple of months. Running a pod I've settled on a #130 main jet, jet needle up one notch and idle jet tweaked to suit. Initially had a #132 main but found it too rich at wot - it would simply cut out from the excess fuel. The idle jet will contribute up to quarter throttle so be aware it's not purely for idle. I've found slightly lean at idle helps performance. Too rich and it'll cough and splutter until the main jet and air flow kick in.

Good luck man
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: andycafe on Jan 05, 2014, 00:47:30
Hey thanks mate  :) No I haven't rejetted (yet  ;) ) I have added a airflow restrictor cover to the pod and now I have the full rev range  :D still need to tweek when the exhaust system is complete but everything looks good  8)
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: andycafe on Jan 13, 2014, 04:55:36
Pea shooter exhausts ordered

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-a-w7TfkR24w/TynBXqps_hI/AAAAAAAAFTY/VBFJuIr2G_A/s1600/thumbs_up_smiley.gif)
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: andycafe on Jan 16, 2014, 02:47:41
Just a little excited  :o there coming  ;D

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Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: andycafe on Jan 17, 2014, 03:56:59
17-01-2014 09:39 Delivery Agent - MELBOURNE - PTT Received in destination country
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: JustinLonghorn on Jan 17, 2014, 09:20:33
Antici....................pation.
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: andycafe on Jan 20, 2014, 05:59:33
Just a Guy living his dream  8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VdNEJAFfFLA
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: unclerob on Jan 20, 2014, 08:14:36
Hi Andy, just came across your build...looking good...well done!
Don't know if you know but in the UK they were used as courier bikes a lot....I was the mechanic at a firm that ran 20 of them, all doing 6 to 800 miles a week. I always thought they were about the best 250 Honda ever made though they had a reputation for being a bit fragile over here....mainly because of cylinder head problems. Back then it wasn't much of a problem as you'd just stick another one on but guessing now that's not so easy to find one!
So, if you don't mind, a couple of suggestions...frequent oil changes to avoid wear on the cam bearing surfaces and be wary of running weak...the left hand exhaust valve especially can overheat and burn....and if that happens you'll often find the head cracks between the seat and the plug as well.
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: andycafe on Jan 22, 2014, 05:42:41
Hi Andy, just came across your build...looking good...well done!
Don't know if you know but in the UK they were used as courier bikes a lot....I was the mechanic at a firm that ran 20 of them, all doing 6 to 800 miles a week. I always thought they were about the best 250 Honda ever made though they had a reputation for being a bit fragile over here....mainly because of cylinder head problems. Back then it wasn't much of a problem as you'd just stick another one on but guessing now that's not so easy to find one!
So, if you don't mind, a couple of suggestions...frequent oil changes to avoid wear on the cam bearing surfaces and be wary of running weak...the left hand exhaust valve especially can overheat and burn....and if that happens you'll often find the head cracks between the seat and the plug as well.

Hey thanks for the advice :) I'll definitely keep an eye on those things, This isn't going to be a daily ride only club reg so plenty of time to maintain :)
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: andycafe on Jan 22, 2014, 05:46:31
Hell yeah they sound awesome  ;D Need to custom up some mounts and pick up some clamps  :o
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: andycafe on Jan 22, 2014, 05:48:06
And just cause I like this pic  8)
Title: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: Nevergrew on Jan 26, 2014, 16:21:27
Hey mate. Got another RS buddy who's building a bike and can't work out why his centre stand fouls the chain when up. Can you shed some light? Unfortunately I removed mine ages ago
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: andycafe on Jan 27, 2014, 06:49:04
Hey mate. Got another RS buddy who's building a bike and can't work out why his centre stand fouls the chain when up. Can you shed some light? Unfortunately I removed mine ages ago


My guess is that he has removed the factory exhaust, the left side can acts as a stopper for the centre stand :)
Title: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: Nevergrew on Jan 27, 2014, 16:09:15
Ah cheers mate. That's what that thing on the exhaust does
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: andycafe on Jan 28, 2014, 05:32:51
After looking around at the normal suppliers all I found was car size T-clamps, so I ended up getting some online. I needed to pull the wheels off for the new rubber and I'm hoping to get them back on before the clamps arrive to complete the exhausts :)
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: MickyC on Feb 01, 2014, 09:16:19
And just cause I like this pic  8)

That pic is awesome. I like the pipes a lot it suits the bike heaps mate.
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: andycafe on Feb 01, 2014, 22:22:44
That pic is awesome. I like the pipes a lot it suits the bike heaps mate.

Cheers Man  ;) just about done and we're gearing up for a special photo shoot soon  :D
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: andycafe on Feb 04, 2014, 05:39:39
New tyre's getting fitted tomorrow so she naked on the floor at the moment  :o
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: andycafe on Feb 05, 2014, 06:21:01
Right the new boots on and wheels back on her  ;D (still need to adjust) The rear is the same but I went up in the front and love how it fills up the guard now  :o ;) ;D What do you reckon?
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: andycafe on Feb 05, 2014, 06:23:35
and with the old ones for reference  :o
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: Aussiedrew on Feb 20, 2014, 03:31:58
Hey mate. Very very good job! The bike looks great. But are you going to put the side covers back on? I notice you've left the tabs on the frame and tank. At the moment it looks a little cluttered under there with the battery box sitting out in the open.

I've done one up as a cafe racer myself and keep in mind that since these are kick start (unless you have the very rare CB250RS-D) you can get away with a very very small battery (or no battery at all if you choose). I'm using a 1.2ma one from SuperCheap which cost $30 and it's been working a treat for a year now. Very easy to hide as well.

Also if you decide the upgrade the carby, these run very well on both a VM32 or TM33. I have the TM33 on mine and it really turns it into a weapon. I've topped it out at 155km/h on the flat indicated by GPS, although I also have a high compression piston.

I'll be following this build! These bikes are legendary.
Title: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: Nevergrew on Feb 21, 2014, 00:17:17
What are those carbs worth Drew? Any clearance issues?
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: DesertLab on Feb 21, 2014, 02:20:47
Nice build....
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: andycafe on Feb 21, 2014, 06:06:13
Hey mate. Very very good job! The bike looks great. But are you going to put the side covers back on? I notice you've left the tabs on the frame and tank. At the moment it looks a little cluttered under there with the battery box sitting out in the open.

I've done one up as a cafe racer myself and keep in mind that since these are kick start (unless you have the very rare CB250RS-D) you can get away with a very very small battery (or no battery at all if you choose). I'm using a 1.2ma one from SuperCheap which cost $30 and it's been working a treat for a year now. Very easy to hide as well.

Also if you decide the upgrade the carby, these run very well on both a VM32 or TM33. I have the TM33 on mine and it really turns it into a weapon. I've topped it out at 155km/h on the flat indicated by GPS, although I also have a high compression piston.

I'll be following this build! These bikes are legendary.

Hey cheers mate, No plans to put side covers on, 1 it never came with any, 2 there like hens teeth to find a good set (especially the right 1 ?) I know I could have hidden the electrics and downsized the batt but I like the mount  :D I just wanted to be different and not have a empty hole in the middle ;D

Thanks for the tips on the carby upgrades, I just want to get her on the road for now since this project has taken soooo long  ::) ;D

Show us ya bike, the little RS's are becoming quite popular :)
Title: Re: Cb250rs cafe
Post by: andycafe on Feb 21, 2014, 06:07:07
Nice build....

Thanks mate  ;)