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Title: 71 CB350 Project (Sold!)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Feb 14, 2011, 19:39:27
Gentlemen and Ladies,


I recently purchased a 71 CB350 in decent condition. I am trying to get this bad boy up and running great first, then I will do the modifying. Also, I am trying to be as cheap as possible.


Today is the first day I have been able to get my hands dirty. Thankfully the previous owner had already removed the stock airboxes and blinkers for me, as well as cleaned the carbs


I went straight to work.


Gas tank off, disassembled the petcock. (There was a little rusty looking stuff inside). I will thoroughly clean before I put it back on.


Removed the carbs, they were clean, but there is a small tear in each diaphragm.  :'( 


I removed the rectifier, the previous owner said he thought it was bad. Either way I am replacing it with the ingenius Radio Shack one for $3.50. http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=6496.50 (http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=6496.50) Thank you $50 mod blog


Some questions so far.


Should I just say "screw it" and replace the carbs with Mikuni ones? If so, which ones?


What do I clean the petcock with? Carb cleaner? Minus the rubber O-ring of course.


Any recommendations on cleaning and sealing the gas tank?


Pics are below, and I am sure more questions will arise. Thanks all


Welp, back to work


(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0731.jpg)


(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0734.jpg)


(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0735.jpg)


(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0736.jpg)
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: richa610 on Feb 14, 2011, 20:09:49
Nice bike. I have exactly the same one, down to the color.
How many miles?
What is the compression?


Two things you should check first before anything else - these will give you a good idea of how much money you will need to put into the engine. If you get >150 psi for each cylinder, don't do anything to the engine unless you notice any other sever problems.


The carbs can be repaired, depending on how big the hole in the diaphragm is. I used a very small dot of epoxy on mine and its been fine so far. If you have the money, and plan on modifying the intake and exhaust, mikuni's are very easy to tune, as you don't have to remove them to change the jets (this IS worth the extra money in my opinion). VM 30's seem to work well. petcock can be done with carb cleaner, remove gasket as you said.


I had my tank done for $150. I know its a lot, but it was a present from my father, and it was nice to not have to deal with it, especially as I didn't want to mess up the paint.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Feb 14, 2011, 20:51:50
Thanks Richa for the advice.


17515 miles, and compression is right at 150. So thats good.


I will look into the VM 30's as I will eventually modify the intakes and exhaust.


Also my tank is pretty heavily faded, and will require some painting. Bummer


Time to get to work on that petcock.


Removed pipes, headers, rear footpegs, and chain guard.
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0738.jpg)


What is a good cleaner for general  cleaning. Any degreaser?
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: richa610 on Feb 14, 2011, 21:39:48
A squirt bottle full of kitchen degreaser and a hose. Spray down, let sit, rinse, repeat. A lot. If you're in a place that you can do it now outside...
I took mine in a trailer to a do it yourself car wash and pressure washed the crap out of it. I didn't make it spotless, but it did make it much less messy when I did take it apart.
If you hate your lungs and the environment, brake cleaner will dissolve pretty much anything, but its pretty nasty stuff. Otherwise, a general engine degreaser spray can can be had pretty cheaply from your local auto parts store.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Feb 16, 2011, 11:58:36
Been doing a lot of general cleaning on the bike the last few days. Degreasing everything, cleaning chrome, etc.


Things I did besides cleaning:
Drain the old oil.
Remove the electric starter and plug the hole fairly easily. Plugged it with a frost/freeze expanding plug from Autozone for $4.00
Remove old battery box and a bunch of other junk that wont be used anymore.
Made the $4 Solid State Radio Shack rectifier, and removed the old one. http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=6496.50 (http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=6496.50)




Today, I am going to order parts. Most importantly the carbs Mikuni VM30's. These are the correct one right?http://www.powersportsuperstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=4459629&Click=35355& (http://www.powersportsuperstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=4459629&Click=35355&) FREE Shipping and not to bad of a price.


Any pros or cons to these? I have heard they are pretty good. I also planning on adding pod filters and different exhaust at some point, and I heard these are easier tuning.


Also I am going to need new tires and a new chain. Any suggestions or brands I should avoid.




(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0741.jpg)
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0745.jpg)
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0751.jpg)


I am also thinking about redoing the wiring harness completely. Is this something I should do. I no longer have turn signals or the electric start. Does anyone have diagram for this?
Thanks for all your help gentlemen.



Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: moewillis on Feb 16, 2011, 12:44:50
man i call dibs on the signals and side covers if you are getting rid of them. and if you want to get rid of your control switches (left side specificly) let me know.  have a 71 cb350 that the PO removed the turn signal stuff and my side covers have missing vent pieces.
 
my 71 cb350 would be very happy to have some of that stuff   :)
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Feb 16, 2011, 12:58:44
Hey Moe,
Good news, I am getting rid if the signals, switch, and side cover. I will clean them up for you. The PO did however remove the emblems on the side covers. I will post pics of all the stuff I am getting rid of sometime today.
 Thanks for the interest.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: moewillis on Feb 16, 2011, 13:14:27
man you are too good. i have got really good condition emblems so thats no problem. ya if you want to let the whole switch assembly, all four signals, and those side covers go i'll take them.
 
pm me to let me know what you are looking to get out of them
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: VonYinzer on Feb 16, 2011, 13:21:26
Good start so far man. If youre getting Mikunis (recomended) get them from Dime City Cycles. Theyre members here and awesome guys.
Theres a stripped down wiring diagram on the site somewhere. If you cant find it let me know, and Ill se what I can do.
Also... Take those fork covers off and inspect the crome tubes. If theyre nicked or rusty in the travel area youll need new ones. I can almost gurantee that youll need new fork seals as well.
Replacing the wheel bearings is a pretty good idea too, as theyre cheap and its a bit of added security.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Feb 22, 2011, 12:08:00
Hey all,
Sorry its been a while. Made some progress on the bike though.


Got the electrical all sorted out. Reran the wiring harness and removed the unnecessary wires.
Got a new battery - 12v 3.3AH from Batteries Plus - $27
Hid all electrical and battery under the seat
Made a bracket for it all using angle aluminum and lexan
Started work on a two person seat using a skateboard, it turning out nicely
Pulled off and cleaned the front suspension, have to put new fork oil in still.
Removed the rear springs and painted
Cleaned the tank out with "The Works", thank you $50 Mod thread
Painted tank and headlight assembly as well as a few other little things
Removed and cleaned up both sprockets.


Still waiting for my carbs to arrive, then I can actually get this sucker up and running


(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0757.jpg)
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0759.jpg)
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0760.jpg)
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0761.jpg)
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0767.jpg)
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0771.jpg)
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0778.jpg)
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0784.jpg)
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0785.jpg)
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0786.jpg)
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0787.jpg)
Thanks all for your help. Its greatly appreciated



Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Feb 22, 2011, 13:02:15
Some pictures of the gas tank. Still needs a good strong clear coat.


(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0789.jpg)


Anyone have any recommendations for a very strong clear coat?


Also, I need a new front tire. 18-3.00 Any specific tires I should look into.
Need a new chain


I dont want to spend a lot


Thanks all.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: VonYinzer on Feb 22, 2011, 16:45:56
http://www.spraymax.com/index.php?id=361&L=1 (http://www.spraymax.com/index.php?id=361&L=1)

You can get nice Shinkos from Motorcycle Superstore for around $50.

Spend as much as you can on the best chain you can find.

Paint looks cool man. Good bit of orange peel though. Looks like it needs some more wet sanding to smooth it out before clear.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Feb 22, 2011, 18:36:41
Thanks,


Well the orange peel on the tank is supposed to be there. I used Rustoleum Hammered. It gives an orange peel texture, its pretty cool. The problem is that the black stripe is kind of wrinkled. Any idea on how to fix that.


Also thanks for the advice. Is this the tire I need? http://www.amazon.com/Shinko-Tour-Master-Front-Tire/dp/B001CDALP8 (http://www.amazon.com/Shinko-Tour-Master-Front-Tire/dp/B001CDALP8)
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Feb 25, 2011, 14:47:16
Hey all,


I got my carbs in finally. Mikuni Vm30's. I know I need to make some intake adapters. I there any good place to how to hook these all up.


I am assuming I need a 2-1 throttle cable is this right. Any other info would be great.


Thanks
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: El Granto on Feb 25, 2011, 15:58:30
Great idea on the Skateboard! I'll be watching to see how it finishes up!
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Feb 25, 2011, 16:06:22
Thanks, I got it all mounted up last night. So far it looks like its going to work out pretty sweet. I really like how the back fins up.


I am planning on putting my tail light right underneath the fin. Just have to find a small bright LED taillight for cheap.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: Danish_Cafe on Feb 25, 2011, 18:16:17
This build is looking good, I like your ideas and will be following!
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Feb 25, 2011, 19:39:41
Hey guys,
I found these flange mounts for the carb side, and have the ones already on the engine side. Now I just need to find a tube to squeeze in both sides.


http://www.amazon.com/Mikuni-Rubber-Flange-Typical-990-842-046/dp/B003CJQOEC (http://www.amazon.com/Mikuni-Rubber-Flange-Typical-990-842-046/dp/B003CJQOEC)
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: B L A K E on Mar 01, 2011, 22:22:21
Wait you can put a small battery like that on there? how can that be?
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: VonYinzer on Mar 01, 2011, 22:47:46
For the cable, order one for a 68 cl175.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Mar 01, 2011, 23:58:09
Finally another update!


Since last time:


This project is slowly coming together


Completely stripped the tank to bare metal with aircraft stripper (that stuff does some serious work), as the first attempt at the tank wasn't acceptable. Got it all painted back up, and it is currently drying. Then I will give it a good clear coat. Used Rustoleum Hammered for the gray. It gives a pretty cool orange peel texture.
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0808.jpg)


Got some of the engine covers primed and painted
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0809.jpg)


Finished the seat pan, now I have to find a upholster. Unless someone knows a good cheap way to do it yourself, which I prefer.
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0810.jpg)
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0811.jpg)


Working on taping the wheels for paint. Planning on painting the spokes and hubs black and leaving the rims chrome at the moment. Anyone know a good place to buy some rear spokes? I think I have 4 or 5 I need to replace.


Got my carbs in like I said, but the knockoffs are turning out to be a pretty big pain as the mount on the carb is a flange, and not a spigot. So I think I will send them back and pick up some real Mikunis
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0821.jpg)


Ordered some cables. Speedo, Tach, Front brake. (Got so fork seals in the mail instead of my speedo cable, so now I have to send it back and ask them to send the right thing. Bummer)


Finally ordered some parts from DCC: Headlight mounts, air filter pods, oil filter tool, on/off switch and a couple other things I think.


Still need quite a bit in the parts category though:
Different carbs now,
Clutch and Brake lever
Headlight on/off switch (so I can have it off when I start my bike)
Headlight high/low switch
Horn switch
Throttle control
Throttle cable for my Mikunis
Bar end mirrors
Carb jets for the Mikunis (any tips on which I would need, with pod filters)
Rear wheel spokes
Tires
LED Tailight


(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0822.jpg)
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0823.jpg)




Slowly, but surely coming together. Thanks for all your help and input.



Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Mar 02, 2011, 11:04:55
Blake: I am running with no starter or signals. As far as I know the majority of the battery was used for the electric starter. Also, I am planning on using and LED taillight and led gauge bulbs. I read a few other blogs of guys who were running with no starter. A 12v 3.3ah was about the average size they were all downsizing to. Plus its sealed and only 2.5x2.5x5 which fits perfectly where I have it.


Von: I will look into that throttle cable. Thanks
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: B L A K E on Mar 02, 2011, 11:25:38
Blake: I am running with no starter or signals. As far as I know the majority of the battery was used for the electric starter. Also, I am planning on using and LED taillight and led gauge bulbs. I read a few other blogs of guys who were running with no starter. A 12v 3.3ah was about the average size they were all downsizing to. Plus its sealed and only 2.5x2.5x5 which fits perfectly where I have it.


Von: I will look into that throttle cable. Thanks

Thanks man. What size Air Pods did you use? can you send me the link of where you bought them?
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Mar 02, 2011, 12:03:29
Hey Blake,
 I ordered them from DimeCityCycles for $7.95. Click the banner above. I got the 39mm ones as the first carbs I ordered were that size. I am about to purchase some real Mikuni VM30, so I hope they fit. Either way, they have a few different sizes and good at a good price.


http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vintage-cafe-racer-caferacer-bobber-brat-chopper-streetfighter-motorcycle-parts-airfilter-pod-k-and-n-39mm-12-55739.html (http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vintage-cafe-racer-caferacer-bobber-brat-chopper-streetfighter-motorcycle-parts-airfilter-pod-k-and-n-39mm-12-55739.html)


DCC has a lot of good stuff.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: B L A K E on Mar 03, 2011, 21:14:43
Hey Blake,
 I ordered them from DimeCityCycles for $7.95. Click the banner above. I got the 39mm ones as the first carbs I ordered were that size. I am about to purchase some real Mikuni VM30, so I hope they fit. Either way, they have a few different sizes and good at a good price.


http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vintage-cafe-racer-caferacer-bobber-brat-chopper-streetfighter-motorcycle-parts-airfilter-pod-k-and-n-39mm-12-55739.html (http://www.dimecitycycles.com/vintage-cafe-racer-caferacer-bobber-brat-chopper-streetfighter-motorcycle-parts-airfilter-pod-k-and-n-39mm-12-55739.html)


DCC has a lot of good stuff.

Thanks man, tell me where you get your real mikunis,as i am in the market for some!
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Mar 04, 2011, 02:46:57
Blake,
I just ordered some this morning from phatperformanceparts.com for about $160 shipped. A lot of place have them and some for a little bit cheaper, but most are out of stock and backordered right now.

When I ordered these their site said they would ship in 1-2 days. So I ordered them, a little bit later I got an email saying that the carbs where on backorder for 1-3 weeks. So I canceled my order

A little bit later I got a call from a guy that works there saying he dug around and found one of their distributers that still had a couple and said he would have them send them to me direct. So that's cool. Of course I told him I wanted them. Now I am anxiously awaiting the carbs.

I just have to start doing some research on the right jets for my set up, etc.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: B L A K E on Mar 06, 2011, 21:50:47
when you find out exactly what you will need to make all your carbs work:
Manifolds, clamps, ect... please tell me because i hate digging around and you are already doing this.

Thanks in advance
-blake
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Mar 07, 2011, 00:42:33
Sure thing,
Not a problem. I'll do that. I am currently scouring the internet looking for good info on jet setup etc. I'll post what I find.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: VonYinzer on Mar 07, 2011, 09:10:40
All the info ya need is here on DTT. Y ajust have to dig a bit.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Mar 07, 2011, 23:38:28
Quick update...
Nothing to exciting:


Got both the front and back wheels painted (spokes and hubs). Rims were left chrome.


Got a few parts in. (Tach cable, Front brake cable)


Still waiting for my Mikuni vm30's (supposed to be here Wed), headlight brackets, oil filter tool, horn, sweet mini headlight high/low/off and horn switch, brake and clutch levers.


Thinking about ordering these cool bar end mirrors. What do you all think?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250404485822&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWAX:IT (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250404485822&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWAX:IT)


Also sold a bunch of parts I'm not using today and made $130!!! (which will be thrown right back into the bike) ;D  Always a plus! 
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Mar 09, 2011, 20:59:02
Got the Mikuni VM30's finally


I installed them using the stock rubber mounts. I just threw the mounts in warm water for a little bit and squeezed the carbs on. They are nice and snug, and feel really solid.


Is there any reason why this is a bad idea? Or is there a reason I need to buy new rubber mounts?
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/afdb9a11.jpg)
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: CBdublin on Mar 10, 2011, 22:44:22
man those carbs are nice. I know everyone gets the 30 but until i have them i will always be jealous. that price was pretty nice to. I always see them for 200$ or even $300. I plan on doing the same paint job on my rims so it will be nice to see them. My chrome is still nice but my spokes look a little dull. hope you get it running soon.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Mar 12, 2011, 05:06:38
Made some progress finally.


Put 145 Mains in my Mikuni VM30's (So easy to do, I already love these things)


Chopped both front and back fenders (Good old hacksaw and elbow grease)


Covered my seat (It turned out ok, first time doing something like that and in total cost just under $30)


Clear coated my tank and got it all ready to go (Need to find one front rubber mount)


Got my levers in and hooked up the cables


Still waiting on more parts. (For some reason DCC is taking FOREVER)


(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0909.jpg)
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0911.jpg)
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0903.jpg)(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0902.jpg)


Was hoping to fire her up this weekend, but I dont have any filters yet. VM30's use 57mm, is this correct?


Still need to order:
Chain
Throttle assembly and cable
Taillight
Pod Filters
Like 5 rear spokes
Shifter rubber
Mufflers
Tires
Tank Decals
Four bolts that hold the rear sprocket on (PO somehow ground these up nice and good, and they are a mess)
Clubmans, Bar end mirrors, etc,etc


Do I need to get #176 Style Bleed Type Needle jets?


Thats it for now.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project
Post by: overdraft on Mar 12, 2011, 21:21:18
lookin' good! nice work! i think you made my mind up on the vm30's finding out that you can use the stock carb boots... hopefully you'll have the jetting sorted out by the time i catch up with you and you can let me know what you ended up with!
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Mar 18, 2011, 02:32:54
HOLY CRAP....SHE JUST FIRED UP AND IDLED PERFECTLY!!!!!!!!!!! I nearly crapped my pants when I cranked the throttle.


Did a decent amount of work tonight. Got my parts in finally.


Put my pod filters on.
Installed my throttle cable and lubed it a bit.
Ran all the fuel lines and fuel filters.
Messed with the electrical a bit.


After a few kick she ROARED to life. I almost had a heart attack. After who knows how many years, she was purring.


Dang it, its 12:30 AM, and I have neighbors with little kids.


Right now I have to fix a leaky petcock and install the chain.
I grabbed my phone to shoot a video, but she ran out of gas. I will get right back to running her first thing in the morning.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: overdraft on Mar 18, 2011, 12:41:35
congratulations! 145 mains you say? i just ordered a set of mikuni vm30s so hearing that your bike is running that seems like a good starting place!
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: teazer on Mar 18, 2011, 12:49:54
Running in the garage can be done with the main jets out.  Size of the mains isn't important until you have the throttle cranked under load.

I'd get the filters and mufflers fitted and then take it for a run to get a sense of where the carburation is. Try to get it on a dyno with gas analysis to set up jetting.  It's much easier and quicker than any other way to get close.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Mar 18, 2011, 14:48:10
Thanks for the input. I'll look into that. Unfortunately I am stuck working all weekend.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: CBdublin on Mar 19, 2011, 20:22:47
that is awesome she fired up. i remember last year when mine did. good luck with the other parts. at least you have one of the most expensive parts of the build taken care of with the new carbs. the clubmans and other things like that run pretty cheap on ebay.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: B L A K E on Mar 23, 2011, 22:07:08
Wow great progress while i was gone mate!!! Fantastic job. I decided to stay with my Keihins... as they will run fine... But Im glad ur mikunis work good.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: vdubjim on Mar 24, 2011, 10:14:34
I like the skateboard idea!


Paint that rivets black, you can see them in the fender ;)

Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: GLENNWOOD55CAMEO on Mar 25, 2011, 23:18:44
Nice job so far! I would like to know the info on the battery your using. I see it came from Battery Plus. Do they have a web site or can you furnish a phone # for them. I would like to purchase one like yours. Also if you need a throttle cable, check with www.speedmotoco.com (http://www.speedmotoco.com). They have a custom made cable available for the mikuni carbs that uses the stock throttle handle bar assembly.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: dano on Mar 28, 2011, 18:06:06
wow thats looking nice! i like the paint on the tank.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Mar 30, 2011, 15:34:23
Thanks all,


Sorry its been so long, my wife and I are in the begin stages of building our house. I got the design down, but we are meeting with the architect and builders,etc.


I have taken a short little rides around the neighborhood, and gotten her up to 60mph no problem. But I have to order a few rear spokes and get my new tires and tubes put on before I do any real riding.


I redid the seat and a couple other minor things. I try and get some pics up soon.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: overdraft on Mar 30, 2011, 18:28:31

I have taken a short little rides around the neighborhood, and gotten her up to 60mph no problem. But I have to order a few rear spokes and get my new tires and tubes put on before I do any real riding.

sounds like your mikuni's are working for you with the 145 mains? i'm jealous that you're actually at the point of it being rideable! nice work!
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: nobrakese28 on Mar 30, 2011, 18:49:10
Hey. Nice build. What size pilots are you running, and what needle setting are you on? My VM's I am running a 130 mains, with 22.5 pilots, and needle in the middle position.  It feels great from 5.5upward, but slightly hesitant under 5.5K. 
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: fartyhead on Mar 30, 2011, 18:57:14
Nice job, where did you buy your carbs? I didnt read the whole thread in case you already answered that. Thats a cool color combo and your skateboard seat idea is probably gonna get used alot.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: dano on Mar 30, 2011, 19:24:08
well i stole one idea of yours (vm30's) should have em later this week and the board idea is great too. hmmmm...
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Mar 31, 2011, 12:36:07
nobrakes,
I will have to double check my carb settings. I haven't had much time to really focus on tuning them yet. Right now I am just running 145 mains, and left all the others as they came. Once I start really tuning I will let you know what I do.


fartyhead, I got my carbs from phatperformanceparts.com. Thanks for the compliment. Also, have at it with the skateboard idea. I got mine from Walmart for $9 and added a couple $$ worth of camping pad, and a few $$ worth of vinyl. It turned out better than I thought. I will post pics soon.


dano,
good choice on the mikunis. What little adjustment I have done to them has been super easy. Make sure you throw some good inline fuel filters (paper, not metal mesh).
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Apr 05, 2011, 21:12:45
Here is a couple pictures.


Not a lot has changed except that I redid the seat with much firmer foam (camping pad), put on the shorty mufflers( I really like how they turned out) and got the title ad registration all taken care of. I am getting my new tires and tubes put on on Friday morning, then I should be getting really close.


(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/21ee41da.jpg)


(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/71da53dc.jpg)


(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/55c20cd3.jpg)


Sorry for the iPhone pictures
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: CBdublin on Apr 05, 2011, 23:42:20
and the pea shooter muffs. that seat looks a lot better. not that it didnt before but definitely improved. good job man. just pull those ape hangers off and you can call it a cafe  ;)
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Apr 05, 2011, 23:46:33
Good call,
I didn't realize I hadn't put any pictures up with them on. Yeah, I ordered some black clubmans, should hopefully have them soon.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Apr 06, 2011, 23:36:02
 Good news. I just got all the last minor electrical hickups out. I now have a headlight off,low beam, high beam and horn switch. Taillight and brake light work fine too. Below is the switch I used. Works great.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140480572712&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT#ht_1276wt_939 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140480572712&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT#ht_1276wt_939)
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Apr 11, 2011, 23:46:06
Here is a few most pictures in her most recent state.


Got my knobbys on. Put my mirrors on. Started doing some tuning to the carbs. She is getting really close to being my daily rider now. Have some fork boots in the mail. (To compliment the knobby tires)
I have to adjust the rear brake a little, and do some more fine carb tuning, and get some tank emblems. Phase 1 is almost done!


(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/photo2.jpg)
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/photo4.jpg)(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/photo3.jpg)
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: dano on Apr 12, 2011, 18:46:04
wow looking really good! your in the austin area right?
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Apr 12, 2011, 18:47:13
Yeah SW Austin.
Just have some minor tuning left then off to get my license so I can start cruising around on this sucker legally.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: dano on Apr 12, 2011, 19:10:14
you should hit up the monday bike night at the draught house pub, love to see this in person.  nice work.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: CBdublin on Apr 12, 2011, 20:00:45
yeah man, its like a cafe tracker with those knobs. looking good.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Apr 13, 2011, 00:36:16
Thanks guys,
Yeah I plan on hitting up that bike night as soon as I get this thing finished up. I'll let you know when I do. Do you go, or have you been to it?
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Apr 19, 2011, 14:13:11
Alright,


Should pick up my clubmans today. Also ordered some 37.5 pilots and 130 mains for the carbs.
Has anyone put the 176 bleed style needle jets in their VM's? If so, did you just get like P-2 or P-4 right in the middle of the rich lean spectrum?


Threw on some fork boots too. (Thanks again djelliot)
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: jrknecht on Apr 19, 2011, 14:16:58

I really like it with the handlebars that you have on it, it has a flat track look to it. Super sick! Good work  ;)


JR

Alright,


Should pick up my clubmans today. Also ordered some 37.5 pilots and 130 mains for the carbs.
Has anyone put the 176 bleed style needle jets in their VM's? If so, did you just get like P-2 or P-4 right in the middle of the rich lean spectrum?


Threw on some fork boots too. (Thanks again djelliot)
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: DirtyFrank on Apr 21, 2011, 17:55:51
Let's see it! When are you gonna get that M on your license?
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: scottfish on Apr 21, 2011, 18:22:04
What tires are those?  They look great and really set the bike off!
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: thenewblack on Apr 21, 2011, 18:37:44
Let's see it! When are you gonna get that M on your license?


an M makes sense to me, for some reason its W on mine  :-\
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: DirtyFrank on Apr 21, 2011, 19:11:48
Actually, now that I look, it's an E on mine.  :o
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Apr 21, 2011, 22:52:06
Thanks guys for all the compliments.

The tires are Shinko 244's. I think I payed $25 for the front and $35 for the rear. I did get my black clubmans in. So I put them on and trimmed them nice and short. I think the look really good. I will get pics up soon.

I am currently out of town so I wont be getting my M on the license just yet. I have to take one of those stupid driving courses.

Also, I should have some new jets waiting for me when I get home. 130 mains, and 37.5 pilots so I will let you guys know how they turn out. Should get me really close.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: Erskine on Apr 21, 2011, 23:02:47
Looking forward to seeing how it looks with clubmans on. Nice build!
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Apr 22, 2011, 14:42:39
Hey guys here are some iPhone pics. I get some real ones up when I get home.

(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/e8e24743.jpg)
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/3ce01ef1.jpg)
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/d5c44e36.jpg)
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/d4d8795d.jpg)
Title: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: TFWG on Apr 22, 2011, 15:16:30
What iPhone app did you use to take that first retro pic? Pretty cool lookin.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Apr 22, 2011, 15:50:25
It's Instagram. There is another one called hipstamatic that's pretty cool too
Title: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: TFWG on Apr 22, 2011, 16:17:43
Thanks man. I'll check them both out. Rad lookin bike!
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Apr 27, 2011, 02:37:29
Brief update.


Got my 37.5 pilots in, and 130 mains with the jet needle clip at +1 lean. Bike is running much better and plugs look nice and brown.


I still need to take her out and hit some higher speeds, but saving money and waiting to get my motorcycle license.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: overdraft on Apr 27, 2011, 12:54:58
Great news! Glad it's running better and I gotta say, as one of the eleventy billion people putting VM30's on my 350, I really appreciate that you are actually posting your jets and settings so that we can get at least an operational base setting. It's a comfort to know that there is a combination out there that will get me out of the garage... I (like many others) have tried asking what would be a good 'day 1' jet combination and the responses are always 'they're all different' and 'you need to tune it out yourself' etc... But I suspect that my VM30's got shipped with 2 hundred and something mains so knowing I can buy some 130's for it and get to the coffee shop with them before I go crazy with tuning is a good thing! Thanks again and keep us in the loop if you make any more changes!
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Apr 28, 2011, 01:13:02
No problem.


Here is the link for the pilots I bought, and for a decent price and reasonable shipping.
I got my mains from this guy too. He also has the bleed type needle jets that I had trouble finding before. I may order them depending on how the bikes runs.
This seller is very helpful too.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150521212093&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT#ht_2551wt_939 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150521212093&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT#ht_2551wt_939)


Yeah my vm30's had 250 mains and 40 pilots.

I'll let you know if I make more changes. Let me know if you don't have an Ebay account. I may be able to help you out.

Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on May 17, 2011, 00:28:03
Got signed up for my motocycle training course FINALLY!!!. A requirement in TX before you can get a license. Starts tomorrow and ends thursday. That means by Thursday afternoon I'll be cruising around hopefully. ;D   


Made a couple changes to the bike. Painted the chrome fenders black, and wrapped the headers. Also, I plan on stripping the paint on the tank and running just bare metal. Kinda of a ratty cafeish bike.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: DirtyFrank on May 17, 2011, 22:19:57
Give me a shout when you're legal and let's ride. I'll just assume that my rigged up throttle cable will last until a new one arrives in the mail.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: Kev Nemo on Jun 06, 2011, 10:11:09
 I noticed your seat sits flat-did you cut the rear hoop that your fender was bolted into originally? Have you noticed any instability in the back on turns? The reason I ask is that hoop holds the back end of your bike's frame together and without, the frame might get floppy.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Jun 06, 2011, 21:49:17
Yes, I cut off the rear hoop. I actually haven't noticed any instability whatsoever. That was a concern of mine originally, but there is also another bracket that is welded in the frame right where both the rear shocks mount. This adds much more stability than I think the rear hope would. I did mount the rear fender back on in a way that may add a little of that stability back.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: dirt3rats on Jun 18, 2011, 19:50:00
Searching for batteryless CL builds to get some ideas and came across this post. I built a Twinstar with a very similar setup to this last year. Used a leftover everslick deck from the 90's that I had sitting around in my garage at the time. Dig the build. Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: mystahagy on Jul 02, 2011, 00:37:15
How's your jetting doing now that you've had some time on it?  No matter what I did, I couldn't get the primary type needle jets to keep from running rich and fouling plugs.  I've currently switched over to bleeder type needle jets and still trying to get them dialed in.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (Riding the Heck out of it)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Jul 09, 2011, 00:20:10
Its getting closer. I still have 37.5 pilots, but I put in 120 mains (a little too lean). Today, though I moved the needle clip to the richest setting (bottom clip), but I ran out of time to take it out for a spin. Hopefully I will in the morning, and I'll let you know. I kind of have a feeling 125 mains would be perfect.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: NPendleton on Jul 09, 2011, 09:39:17
How did you sync the idle on your Mikunis?
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (SHE'S ALIVE!!!!)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Jul 09, 2011, 12:01:35
Just by ear, and I am pretty sure I turned the screws both out the same amount of turns.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (Riding the heck out of it!!!)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Sep 12, 2011, 22:53:00
Sold the bike. She ran like a top at the end and was a super dependable daily driver. I think I put over 1000 miles on her.


Here she is a couple days before I sold it.



(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0050_1.jpg)


(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0051_1.jpg)


(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l572/adriannarnold/CB350%20Rebuild/IMG_0053_1.jpg)
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (Sold!)
Post by: DirtyFrank on Sep 13, 2011, 11:50:10
Whatchya got in the works now?
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (Sold!)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Sep 13, 2011, 13:50:55
Dirty Frank,
I am actually about to walk out the door and pick up a little Yamaha 1970 CT175. Its in pretty good condition already, but kinda goofy looking. If I do get it, I think I'm leaning towards a street trackerish style. We'll see. I will definitely post up a build blog when the time comes.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (Sold!)
Post by: DirtyFrank on Sep 14, 2011, 10:27:32
So, how did it turn out?
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (Sold!)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Sep 14, 2011, 12:13:54
Hey Frank. I picked it up. Check out the new build blog via my signature. Nothing on there yet, just a few pictures.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (Sold!)
Post by: Mowillie on Nov 28, 2011, 18:50:27
the bike came out real nice.
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (Sold!)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Nov 28, 2011, 23:46:42
Thanks  8)
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (Sold!)
Post by: overdraft on Dec 07, 2011, 12:47:01
Hey, I have those same carbs for my 350 and enough other build similarities that your endpoint would probably be if not a perfect match, a better starting point than what's in the carbs now... would you be able to let me know what your final jets/settings were?
Title: Re: 71 CB350 Project (Sold!)
Post by: jonnyTHUNDERmaker on Dec 07, 2011, 17:40:21
Overdraft,
I am pretty sure I ended with 37.5 pilots and 130 mains with the clip in the center. Looking back it could probably used a bit more fine tuning, but that will be a great starting point for you.

I think I still have some jets laying around I'll dig them up and see what sizes I have...If your interested...