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Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Jul 07, 2015, 19:28:06
Hello,  :)

So I've had this bike kicking around for what must be 4-5 years now. I bought it full of good intentions and of course life got in the way and the bike project of got shelved.

I don't know a lot about engines, and am slowly working my way through reading the 'Doing it right' thread and picking up a load of tips. I'm fairly technically minded, though construction is my field rather than automotive, but I'm hoping I can pick things up and learn a lot on this project. I ride on the road and track frequently, so if nothing else I feel I OUGHT to know more!

Managed to get the bike running when I first bought it, which is great, then I tore off all the electrics and a few other bits.

I generally have some aesthetic intentions, and obviously want to upgrade the performance where possible rather than just do a cosmetic job. Not knowing much, it's difficult to even know where to start, literally what to do first, and it's tempting to just start with the easy bits like tarting things up, so help me out here please with what I should be focusing on because I don't just want to try and make it look pretty and the bugger runs terribly at the end of the day :)

A few things on my mind at the moment:
- rusty parts like forks, engine casings etc... polish up? send off? I tried polishing a bit of casing before to see and it didn't improve dramatically.
- engine parts - should I get them all shot blasted and then painted/chromed etc? I don't think I'll be able to clean them all up manually.
- brakes, best to keep as drum and understand them better, or upgrade to discs? Looking at my manual my front brake looks different to what it's showing anyway, so thats confused me already?
- forks - I'm guessing just rebuild with new internals. Cosmetics to outside.
- engine generally - my biggest trouble I guess - strip down, try to see what might need replacing and where improvement can be made? Try and understand how it actually works...
- wheels - these I was just going to get new ones, mounted on refurbished hubs?
- clocks/headlight/handlebars etc want to change the lot. Lamp with integrated speedo, clip ons etc.
- air filter pods, though I've read about issues with frame clearance and can see its an issue.
- frame, tidy up with grinder and weld on some parts for seat brackets/rear sets etc (with help of a welding friend)

There's just so much to consider - any tips on what items to start with, like a list? Concentrate on the engine?

Here's a few pics of the bike - sorry not great, I'll post some better ones in daylight.

Thanks

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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: rjz5400 on Jul 07, 2015, 20:06:52
well looks like you are missing a few things, maybe you have already taken them off. If I may suggest.

Read some restorations on this board, I recommend Swan who has done a number of 400cc hondas but much is the same
Make a friend or friends IRL (in real Life) who might let you watch them work or would at least come take a look every once in a while
Buy a book, a shop manual or a repair guide and flip through that before tackling a section or system
Try to resist the urge to improve things at the beginning. I find it easier to learn how it is supposed to work before i try to "make it better"


This can be a very helpful place and it seems you have the right attitude and i bet it will be Awesome!!   

Also last tip, you can search each individual board for specific makes (honda) and models (cb200) to help answer questions.
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Jul 08, 2015, 10:01:31
Thanks for reading and for the advice. I've got some friends who really know their way around bikes, mostly Ducati's, so I'm sure I can get some advice and watchful eyes to take a look every now and then!

I've got a manual, and have just found online a workshop manual and an owners manual, happy days (got links if anyone needs a copy for CB/CL200). I also took ages when I bought it drawing up the standard wiring loom from the manual as a colour cad drawing, with each circuit set up on switchable layer, though I'm still trying to remember where I saved it having changed computers a number of times since...doh!

Any suggestions on what to tackle first, for example, get the engine out and take it apart for cleaning and inspecting, cleaning carbs etc? Or something like doing the forks?

Thanks :)

Slightly better pic of the little bundle of rust this morning  :D

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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Jul 09, 2015, 14:05:05
So I had a bit of time today and set to work on the tank to make a start with something.

I don't have the key for the bike anymore, or at least not anywhere that I can find it. I got the seat off by undoing the hinge, and then got the tank off. I took off the metal strips and leather pad, neither of which I'm planning to reinstate.

Never stripped paint before so wasn't sure what to expect, but it seemed to bubble up nicely and most of it came off, still more and the underside to do but I had to go out.

Can anyone help with a few questions.......
What do you do next when it's all at this stage to get it down to completely bare metal? Is it just patience and sanding? The paint stripper didn't seem to work on the very last fine layers.

There's also some surface rust as you can see, what is the best way to remove that?

I'm planning to fill in the top recess on the tank - is it best to use the polyester filler stuff and then sand it down? Also planning to hammer in some knee dents when I build up the courage! :)

I started, yay!

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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Jul 27, 2015, 04:40:38
Coming along. Getting a new rear subframe made up to take the seat I have.

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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Dec 23, 2015, 17:04:07
Work in progress making a new subframe:

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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Dec 27, 2015, 17:34:33
Today we finished up the rear of the frame and the diagonals. Really happy with it so far.

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/27/c53867cfcb887666849f7eec22236068.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/27/fa9b91409a3824485dbd48845ee973d8.jpg)
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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: xb33bsa on Dec 27, 2015, 17:43:29
l\nice fab work
what shocks are you using and have you worked out the clearnce at full bump ? that loop is exactly in the wrong spot
Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Dec 27, 2015, 17:46:52
May be slightly misleading in pics, or maybe not, but I'm pretty happy there's decent clearance. Albeit no not worked out yet as only just got it together and the back wheel had to come off for the last bits of fabbing. Shocks wise looking to see if I can get something from Hagon or Nitron that will do the job.


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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: xb33bsa on Dec 27, 2015, 17:57:27
but you are guessing  ??? hope it works out, sucks doing it twice
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Dec 27, 2015, 17:59:28
That sucks of course, I've never built a bike before, so there will be mistakes no doubt. I'm not sure how to accurately work out full bump.


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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: xb33bsa on Dec 27, 2015, 18:20:35
did you take a measure so you get the swingarm angle back to stock ? full bump is just that shocks bottomed out hard it is a dead simple thing to do but a vey important clearance deal
Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Dec 27, 2015, 18:27:32
I think the swing arm angle won't change, because the swing arm is still the original and the pivot points are exactly the same, same wheel diameter/hub height etc. I can't measure shocks as I don't have any yet, although the height of the hoop isn't a lot different from the original frame so I'm not thinking it will be an issue. You may of course be right and it could be close but I don't think it's any problem.


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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: irk miller on Dec 27, 2015, 19:28:25
The pic in Post #5 shows a steeper swingarm angle than stock.  I think that's what he's referring to.  You show shocks in the first pics, so assuming those are stock, anything you buy should match that length.  The stock frame has a crossmember that stiffens the frame and mounts the rear shock.  Your modified frame ends at or near that member, except it's at least 2 inches lower than the top of the member.  Just with those things considered, you reduced your clearance by at least that much.
Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Dec 28, 2015, 04:37:32
Still not sure I get you - why do you think the swing arm is steeper than stock? Except perhaps for a bit of a flat tyre it shouldn't be - it's not been touched. Although it's falling apart with rust underneath so I have a replacement.

The stock shocks are not long enough and slightly longer ones are needed, though the resulting  angle they lie at is much the same as stock, the mounting points are a bit higher.

The new frame will get cross members to brace it too.

Granted clearance may be a bit less but not in any major way.

Appreciate all the comments. Not sure what I'm missing.... :-/


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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: xb33bsa on Dec 28, 2015, 05:10:39
HOW did you maintain the stock ride height ? did you document or witness the exact ride height ? (stock)
you should have done this and gotten the shocks FIRST and then build
if you change the rear ride height even an inch from stock then you start to maybe adsversly fuck up the handling
the rear wheel goes upand down when you hit bumps this is another factor and where clearance comes in at full bump
Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Dec 28, 2015, 05:22:39
Hey relax, it's just a bike :)

Of course you're right about changes having adverse affects but it's all part of the challenge. If I didn't want to take any risks I would just leave it stock and pig ugly and then why bother with the build at all.... It's supposed to be a learning curve.

Almost every build I look at changes the ride height by simply changing seat units or similar. The more adventurous ones start chopping frames, dropping forks, etc etc and completely changing ride height, position, everything. It's a different bike in the end that will need some work to 're-handle'.

Comments and advise always appreciated of course.
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Dec 31, 2015, 06:00:04
Cutting templates to cap off the frames.

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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: alzcbz on Dec 31, 2015, 09:14:12
At full compression, on the stock bike, the tire traveled up between the frame rails. That's why there is concern about clearance with that flat frame loop.
This is how I built my subframe:
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And I checked it at full compression with the spring removed from the shock:
(http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n563/aziolkowski70/IMG_05061.jpg) (http://s1140.photobucket.com/user/aziolkowski70/media/IMG_05061.jpg.html)

Hope you have clearance in the tank tunnel, now that your subframe rails occupy that same area.
You are very ambitious, and that's a good thing. Just take heed when people are questioning your decisions.
Carry on.
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Dec 31, 2015, 09:31:18
Yes all appreciated for sure. Will be checking it out soon and fingers crossed all is good. If not lesson learned and I'll definitely know this for next time around :)


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Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Feb 23, 2016, 04:19:13
Some odds and sods going on...

Tapered bearings in, will have to remove for powdering the frame, but I needed a measurement for the new stem:
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/02/22/d98c1f24f811f18a697003e84e827b1b.jpg)

Forks rechromed:
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/02/22/480a6cc75daceefc75b101a8a8bc5c3f.jpg)

Speedo at the ready:
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/02/22/af714d4a6cf73cf13672a4f6dfd9aec2.jpg)

And a new yoke/clamps design I've been working on with Fastec, who also did the 3D (and have had oodles of patience with my fussiness):
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/02/22/42c813841b10eee43920fb748b826f52.jpg)

And Hagons arrived!
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Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Apr 08, 2016, 17:48:17
Since had wheels refurb'd and fresh rims.
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And today my yoke designs arrived. Delighted with these, beautifully made by Fastec.
Old and new:
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(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160408/8aaa2b02889923724a8c597662810aed.jpg)

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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Apr 08, 2016, 18:13:05
And with the motogadget
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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: maxBetteridge on Apr 09, 2016, 17:38:18
Triple clamp looks epic!
Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Apr 10, 2016, 15:39:32
Started putting some parts back together today after collecting some vapour blasting yesterday. Good to see a bike again rather just boxes of bits! Now starting to think what paint schemes might work.

Rear drum
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Rear wheel and swinger
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160410/a447cdea39641bd272ef8b20e48859bf.jpg)

Yokes fitted and front wheel and forks rebuilt
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160410/2505514853a7167c7cebb55126109184.jpg)

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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: BazookaFiero on Apr 10, 2016, 15:51:42
Looking great! I'm in the process of rebuilding a CB200 as well, but I'm not being nearly as ambitious as you are! I bet she will be a sight to see when done

Love the triple tree, that's gonna give it a real clean look up top
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Erskine on Apr 10, 2016, 16:34:21
Triple tree hotness! I'm in. Cool fabrication skills.
I'm afraid I may have to agree with xb33 about yr compression issues out back, however with your capability it will be a breeze to sort.
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Apr 10, 2016, 16:41:23
Have checked the back and the clearance is ok, shocks have a stroke travel of 3.2" and I'm beyond that so I think it's ok, or at least I hope... :)
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Erskine on Apr 10, 2016, 16:58:45
Have checked the back and the clearance is ok, shocks have a stroke travel of 3.2" and I'm beyond that so I think it's ok, or at least I hope... :)
Cool, must have been an optical illusion from the camera angle.
Are you in the uk?
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Apr 10, 2016, 17:25:10
Yeh
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Erskine on Apr 10, 2016, 17:31:44
Yeh

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Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Jul 08, 2016, 03:01:39
Figuring out headlight and some mounts using bicycle seat post clamps. Saw someone (on here?) somewhere do this before and thought it was clever. There isn't much around at 31mm. Will come up with a nicer bracket now that I know it will work.

Working on a hydraulic brake conversion at the min, will post pics soon.

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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Jul 09, 2016, 15:03:35
Started pulling together parts for hydraulic brake conversion. Waiting for a caliper to show up.

In the mean time got some bargain used parts off eBay, brake master cylinder and cable clutch. Smaller reservoir on the way as this one looks a bit big for the little CB.

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Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Jul 16, 2016, 19:59:24
Been mocking up a bracket in card and then wood to take the Brembo caliper I've picked up for the front brake conversion.

It's not quite right yet in terms of shape and probably needs a bit more meat on the skinny bit up top, but here's the progress so far. It'd also be good to get some holes or slots in there to lighten it up visually, but I suppose I need to tread carefully or I will risk weakening it.

Some alignment issues to be sorted out with the wheel spokes and mounting points too.

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Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Jul 18, 2016, 04:17:28
Round 2, and 3...

Going to get one laser cut in the correct thickness metal as it's difficult to fully appreciate alignment / any clashes otherwise and for now I'm happy with the fixing points, bottom mount obviously needing a good spacer. Also a friend suggested drilling out and retapping the mounts to take bigger bolts, which sounds like a good idea, providing there will be enough metal left around the holes.

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(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160718/70eb4b14bd05b29f4b32f2d3d23f3741.jpg)

And with a slightly fatter top curve, perhaps still too thin. May resort taking a straight line from top mount to upper Brembo mount in the end. Will see how the metal version turns out first.

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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: xb33bsa on Jul 19, 2016, 22:58:01
looks good but the bottom bolt is only an m6 for a fender and having the spacer means it is depending upon the torqued up fastener to keep the assembly mimicking the diameter of the spacer as to shear loads
you want to make sure where the spacer plants is a true square surface and relieve the ends of the spacer so they plant down as if they were made of medium walled tubing however i think m6 is kinda small to get the desired effect m8 would be much better
i think it would be better to have the plate attach more outbored on the brembo like right under the bolt heads
this would shorten both spacers considerably
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: xb33bsa on Jul 19, 2016, 23:08:26
and i dont like strengthwise the way you have scalloped out at the top below the bolt
we would rather see that as a full section ,it ie under twist/shearloads and being aluninum flexing must be kept to an minimum
you could atrfully do like 2 speed holes up there but not big ones like a 1/2 and a 5/8 no more no bigger
but you want to leave at least a holes worth of margin either side of any speed holes in this app so go by that
Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Jul 20, 2016, 02:36:21
Thanks for the comments - I did mention above about the scalloped area perhaps being risky, so I haven't quite decided what to do about that yet.  I'll probably straighten it off in the end as you say. Similarly about drilling out the both mounts to take bigger bolts if possible.

I looked at putting the plate on the outside of the brembo but this would mean machining off a substantial chunk off the fork casing at the upper mount, more than is available to me I think, as this mount is much longer - no spacer currently needed at the top. And without machining it would push the caliper much closer to the wheel which is a no-go, it's already a little too close and is clashing win some of the spokes, so I need to be pulling it the other way a few millimetres.

Lots of fiddly things to figure out with this one! :)
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Jul 24, 2016, 14:45:52
Getting the brake bracket cut in ally to have a real thickness mock up. In the meantime I was mocking up a headlight bracket today. Could have been the final piece but the ally I had kicking around is only 1mm, and it's a bit weak and bendy of course, so I will remake in 2mm soon.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160724/479316a33e32534b1eb11fcd2df04cae.jpg)
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: xb33bsa on Jul 28, 2016, 03:18:07
thats bitchen man
if you dont mind ne saying the hole is too big relagating any strength to the cross sections of material left
if i was doing it i would look at 2 other options for holes
3 holes 2 of them stacked vertically closest to the stanchion
then a 3rd larger hole closer to the light bucket
or just a large cutout leaving a very generous margin all arouind  but following the outside shape
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Jul 28, 2016, 03:21:36
I think the hole is ok, mostly because I've seen others like this and it's only supporting the headlight, but I will have a think about it when I receive the thicker ally and see how it feels, thanks for the comments I will bear it in mind.
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Jul 31, 2016, 13:47:31
Right, made another one with 2mm sheet. Miles better now, really sturdy  :)

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160731/0e1364a5d2c288ac23688e32d0bf86ee.jpg)
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160731/f0cf30936f8133824a9127d909752b96.jpg)
Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Aug 06, 2016, 17:35:49
Nice n shiny now after a good polish. Just waiting for some decent bolts and spacers to arrive to tidy it all up.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160806/dd660f0cfeb54dd24048fb8853593de7.jpg)
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: xb33bsa on Aug 09, 2016, 12:53:25
looks ace boss
will you aim it up ?, layer back like everybody else on google images and pint-inter-rest,crack pipe-urn,bikesled etc ?burp
scoose me
that is a class lil scoot yer building
let me know if you want some period correct konis for the rear suspenders
cheers
Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Aug 09, 2016, 18:00:12
erm, not sure I understood any of that first bit.
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Erskine on Aug 09, 2016, 19:40:38
He's saying don't get strung up on art school photography lol.
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: xb33bsa on Aug 10, 2016, 02:07:45
erm, not sure I understood any of that first bit.
somebody started doing it on the internet tilting the headlight bucket up almost same as rake angle it caught on the lemons to the sea
of we from a planet not this one say ffs how you  night at like that ride ?
but on this planet,here now,it is no longer  about riding ,see ,thats all
you not guilty you gig my down layin spoke plain 
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Aug 10, 2016, 02:20:06
I will not be tilting it upwards, because that would would be idiotic. :-)

Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: xb33bsa on Aug 10, 2016, 06:52:10
the incription is so the interplanetaries stay just keep focusd on adapting  well here is a email i sent a seller another one tthat lloosely lashes together with 37 cents eworth of dollar genreral kitty of bidal bublrap,2 shocks banging together from porto rico or detroiy no matter,together naked 2 nice shocks kinda loose then an oversized moisture weekend box,and  pacs around them as if they weigh nothiing and are extremelky fragile the mind reels
18 out of 25 pairs all shipped same

i retorted thusly
GREETINGS INTERPLANTARY HIRE-ERER boss

th   ank   you   for     the shocks
wow there are more and more interplanetaries selling on ebay to me, orrr they are the shipping hires lots of them, must be a quota deal set by some nazi like nancy peloci anyhooo .it is astonashing that the interplanetaries can even feed themselves ,here on earth..seriously if you were from a planet with completely upside down laws of physics,to note that objects put in motion actually loose energy of enertia as speed accelration and mass of weight increasaes any or all three on typical the ebay shipping hires interplanetary phome planet,
for example..
wheras here on earth you can chuck a fuking heavy ass bowlimg ball down a hallway chuck that black as coal orb hard enough,it will blow out a wall ,and stop it sow it down ? how  ??its a wrecking ball that is earth  takes some doing and or time to stop it or even slow it =down.....,whereas on the ebay shipping dept interplantary hires,home planet the bowling ball will literally shrink up and float away like a cotton wood fur if chucked hard enough..........
it just boggles the mind that not ever being exposed to earths gravity,laws of motion ,newton's every reaction, newtrino particle effect and heat energy as we here know it ,how the fuck can the interplanetary ebay shipping department hires,how can they on earth... even eat shit fart sit stand or piss ?!?!?!

Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: sbaugz on Aug 10, 2016, 22:31:30
the incription is so the interplanetaries stay just keep focusd on adapting  well here is a email i sent a seller another one tthat lloosely lashes together with 37 cents eworth of dollar genreral kitty of bidal bublrap,2 shocks banging together from porto rico or detroiy no matter,together naked 2 nice shocks kinda loose then an oversized moisture weekend box,and  pacs around them as if they weigh nothiing and are extremelky fragile the mind reels
18 out of 25 pairs all shipped same

i retorted thusly
GREETINGS INTERPLANTARY HIRE-ERER boss

th   ank   you   for     the shocks
wow there are more and more interplanetaries selling on ebay to me, orrr they are the shipping hires lots of them, must be a quota deal set by some nazi like nancy peloci anyhooo .it is astonashing that the interplanetaries can even feed themselves ,here on earth..seriously if you were from a planet with completely upside down laws of physics,to note that objects put in motion actually loose energy of enertia as speed accelration and mass of weight increasaes any or all three on typical the ebay shipping hires interplanetary phome planet,
for example..
wheras here on earth you can chuck a fuking heavy ass bowlimg ball down a hallway chuck that black as coal orb hard enough,it will blow out a wall ,and stop it sow it down ? how  ??its a wrecking ball that is earth  takes some doing and or time to stop it or even slow it =down.....,whereas on the ebay shipping dept interplantary hires,home planet the bowling ball will literally shrink up and float away like a cotton wood fur if chucked hard enough..........
it just boggles the mind that not ever being exposed to earths gravity,laws of motion ,newton's every reaction, newtrino particle effect and heat energy as we here know it ,how the fuck can the interplanetary ebay shipping department hires,how can they on earth... even eat shit fart sit stand or piss ?!?!?!

this might actually be the first time I have understood something that you posted.
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Aug 15, 2016, 17:34:45
Had some new fork stanchion top nuts machined to complete the top yoke assembly.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160815/d16b9f1ca3779af7273834e84c911437.jpg)

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160815/1a71863055beef18493be0246d786dea.jpg)
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Erskine on Aug 16, 2016, 06:40:59
That is yoke porn!
Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Aug 31, 2016, 04:34:29
My friend Rob has been doing a great job turning some new spacers and spindles for me, having put in a slightly bigger front rim and tyre which meant I needed to pull the forks slightly further apart with the new yokes. Also done away with the speedo gear. Here's one of the first, in this instance replacing the space taken by the speedo drive and combining with a spacer to set the wheel in the right position. The seal from the speedo drive will be transplanted into the new part. Cool huh.

More to follow. All will be blackened eventually.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160831/fb5b12cd3f948f21cd3cadde5c427f78.jpg)
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160831/ac1cda101491a2401d514eb54f1ad44b.jpg)
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Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Sep 04, 2016, 15:45:59
Been designing a new brake disc since I need to increase the offset. Hoping to get it machined in the next few weeks.

I suspect the spokes are too skinny in reality but we'll see what the engineers think.

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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Sep 14, 2016, 14:50:35
Decided to go for a floating disc in the end so a bit of a redesign underway. ABE in London are doing the final design and making it.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160914/b72477869543f642630ab680f06d2c5b.jpg)
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Sep 21, 2016, 14:04:52
Disc centre awaiting anodising.
Credit Allbike Engineering.

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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Alex jb on Sep 21, 2016, 17:12:00
Looks great, looks massive!


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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Sep 28, 2016, 08:28:00
Nearly there, outer ready for holes cutting.
(Credit: ABEng)

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160928/20c0cadc3a257dc90a7f671234bd6a2d.jpg)

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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Oct 07, 2016, 15:07:41
All done :)

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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Oct 07, 2016, 17:59:46
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161007/14c00c7b061eab5dcf59dc746f6febcd.jpg)

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161007/d539dc73e7d0790f39450c35ac891277.jpg)
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: yorkie350 on Oct 08, 2016, 09:37:32
Great build so far mate love the detail and really ambitious so even more credit to ya ime hooked on this project and like everyone else loving the triple tree keep going mate definitely got the drool facture
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Jan 23, 2017, 09:58:34
Having not done much for a while for various reasons I decided to get stuck into the engine yesterday. I've only gotten as far as getting the cylinder head and pistons off. Planning to get all the casings vapour blasted. Took a while to get some of the 42year old crap off before I could start.

Any tips of what to look for, and sensible/good modifications to make on CB200 engine? Should I be looking into increasing the bore etc (done by a professional obviously)? I suppose I'd like to know what are the best things I can do to help with improved but not unreliable performance.

First time I've stripped an engine so totally new to me in this respect. I'm not even sure what half the bits are but I'm sure I'll get there. Been carefully photographing so I remember what went were.

A few pics so far.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170123/199f23d35e444fb6750f5d8f1b6abb2b.jpg)


(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170123/ded43aa8c10bd243934228089c78975f.jpg)

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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Jan 30, 2017, 03:56:54
Still going with the engine stripping. Came up against a need for a tool I don't have so had to order off eBay and wait for it. Seems the last owner had the same issue but just decided to butcher this lock nut inside the oil pump instead. Grr.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170130/d5fcffca28092aa31973b7175bc28d34.jpg)

Clutch seemed to come apart ok, couldn't get any further without being able to remove the oil pump though. The oil filler cap came out ok once I got my head around the logic of its removal.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170130/11d20febb0165985706f8ab08499f085.jpg)
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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Apr 18, 2017, 11:06:57
So I've been developing the brake caliper bracket to hold the brembo onto the existing fork casing, with my new brake disc. A lot of dimensional fiddling. There was also a clash with the caliper and my newly spoked and slightly bigger wheel rims, so the disc was off set slightly to accommodate.

I've 3d printed a prototype today after modelling it, happy with how it looks, next to see if it fits when I get home later... I'm assuming some adjustment will be needed. Then the final step is to get it nicely machined in ally.

3d model:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170418/297e12a9f2b557a83c4254e86caaea99.jpg)

Printed 3d model:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170418/6e2ac935da13973ae3c082dd2da225af.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170418/dc13e1f8d11a2fb3d973b9913ca25641.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170418/bff0c7bfb634de0bea116a44494daa29.jpg)
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Apr 19, 2017, 02:33:28
Almost fits, needs some fine tuning.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170419/b2babcd4848a5929869cdb6c041307df.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170419/3986d6c0d1763e2c293eaa3e9036d778.jpg)
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Apr 20, 2017, 15:13:02
And today my reprofiled camshaft came back :)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170420/577077834c8798dd24e93e69eac09c72.jpg)
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Alex jb on Apr 21, 2017, 00:38:47
What did you have done to the cam?


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Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Apr 21, 2017, 02:01:14
It has a little bit of lift increase. And re-ground the rockers.
Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on May 06, 2017, 05:06:49
Finally got the bracket design to fit. I'm going to see if there's enough space to get the mounting bolts replaced with with m8's. Otherwise happy with it now and all the clearances are good. Ready for machining.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170506/a0d23b9df4b1789fe77dcd15fc1ee8c5.jpg)
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Jun 24, 2017, 17:37:53
Top end looking tidy now it's cleaned up, now for the real work to begin. Need to strip the bottom now too.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170624/f6cecbc7dcb8cbfc1d20c3d44cc5019e.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170624/26f2f3d53aaeac0f91b536f1add8c2d2.jpg)
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Jul 11, 2017, 14:53:10
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170711/5498b66af69696a0c8821c47374cad00.jpg)
Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Jul 25, 2017, 15:46:46
Bottom end all apart now. Just waiting for the special rotor pulling tool to arrive so I can get the crank apart and send everything for blasting and superfinishing and then get rebuilding .

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170725/08b8bbce94e96d73a9c7ad2c8fdae316.jpg)


(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170725/e9913b36592e909766a8084acf8f9ddc.jpg)

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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Aug 08, 2017, 07:18:38
3d printed some upper shock mount prototypes to check profile and alignments, came out closer than I thought they would, just need a bit of tweaking.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170808/97bf85b799b3fdafd5d53329fcbcdbe2.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170808/2ded55116ed47e862331c46264a05ea5.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170808/fd5557a0564d081845ea0dee92889150.jpg)

Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: vwrabbit on Aug 08, 2017, 09:42:39
Those look darn near perfect. 
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Aug 11, 2017, 13:58:47
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/f391f484cadc68637a979ac778593f59.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170811/2b931bf1cb8fb20aa248834cc3aeae3b.jpg)
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Aug 11, 2017, 16:03:54
Shiny bits  8)
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Luugo86 on Aug 11, 2017, 16:54:47
Looks nice, what type of paint did you use for the cases and what was your process for the paint?
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Aug 11, 2017, 16:55:49
They aren't painted they are just freshly vapour blasted!
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Alex jb on Aug 11, 2017, 18:37:36
Very nice


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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Luugo86 on Aug 12, 2017, 07:00:18
They aren't painted they are just freshly vapour blasted!

 Very nice... what was the cost of getting that done?
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Aug 12, 2017, 07:01:44
£350 quid for the everything in those two pics
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Luugo86 on Aug 12, 2017, 07:20:19
£350 quid for the everything in those two pics

 Thanks man.. I guess that isn't too bad. The results are great.
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Sep 17, 2017, 18:27:19
Decided to hack apart my seat unit after all this time, as the shape wasn't quite doing it for me anymore and when I figured out how I wanted the seat upholstery to look I realised I couldn't do what I wanted using it as it was. It's quite funny because the seat unit and cowl led the design from the start, but, design evolves and here we are. I think it's looking much better now by following the lines of the new frame. I'll be making a seat pan next.

Chopped up the unit, cut new lines and re-glassed the original bum stop back on. I made a pretty sloppy paper template along the way to try and check the looks.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170917/6f007ea65f1f9b25cb53e1ac4743e94b.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170917/e344c0dcdae10b1bc225991daef1fde4.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170917/1d57fefd5c481d3b4f636b1e76d41a4e.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170917/30a0ec79fb71029a84dbfaab56f4d025.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170917/52b6e3cbf9b2e8d6aed5865b44d45c1a.jpg)
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Sep 19, 2017, 04:49:53
Started on my seat pan

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170919/9f47010cd4250e2d2536c32e6d608c0d.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170919/802bffea921b29594dfcc1cab14205a2.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170919/adbed17cda7a7ba2f938a5b5dfceae4c.jpg)

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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: furu14 on Sep 19, 2017, 07:00:56
I think it loocks better now when the lines from frame to seat lines up. :)
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Sep 19, 2017, 07:19:07
Yeh, me too :)
Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Sep 19, 2017, 18:57:01
Rough cut

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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Sep 24, 2017, 15:31:32
Tidied up.
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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Oct 02, 2017, 16:20:40
Now making up the cap for the tank, also serving as my tank tie down. Might need to factor in some space for vibration between tank and frame I guess.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171002/f2c90c047b00bc26365457fdd2a927d9.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171002/4fb2083183084f07d2c46820fd24e0f0.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171002/89d09573e4813fb8ef619609e67278ac.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171002/a6f442db8660b6ebe4b1f294d5692b46.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171002/e644d2a4cd503dc8dbf48c359a32afaf.jpg)

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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Oct 18, 2017, 16:03:40
Shock mounts machined after a couple of rounds 3d printing / prototyping. I might drill some points for indicators in them as well.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171018/04a5859ea47fbe84a0e3a1e989bb88f6.jpg)
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Alex jb on Oct 19, 2017, 18:15:21
Looking good.
Are you welding the turned parts from the back?


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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Oct 19, 2017, 18:22:47
Looking good.
Are you welding the turned parts from the back?


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Yep!
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: tech54K on Oct 24, 2017, 02:30:52
thanks for sharing this DIY!
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Nov 20, 2017, 10:50:32
Got the shock mounts, seat frame bars and tank end cap welded on yesterday. In the words of the Beatles, with a little help from my friends.... :)

I think itís time I learned to weld.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171120/2c59593127a1daee174d6520644425ee.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171120/d61292407d4f7c4f13b2558c9507e0bc.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171120/6360130c674190ddb845c6763b38bb6a.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171120/1092a32ee1ce15fd6c4bd743c51bd7c7.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171120/1fd5f9a1f478c82326d4cfc9fa6c1ae1.jpg)

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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Alex jb on Nov 20, 2017, 12:07:05
Nice welds!


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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Sonreir on Nov 20, 2017, 12:19:01
Following along.
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Coopacoopacoopa on Nov 20, 2017, 15:24:17
The world of 3d printing is developing so fast. What a time to be alive. This is coming along nicely!
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Dec 15, 2017, 07:50:39
Heís rolling

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171215/ea47cb24c581f3dedbc983251f603015.jpg)
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Alex jb on Dec 17, 2017, 17:04:41
Sweet


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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Jan 21, 2018, 16:12:53
Mocking up the battery and M unit locations, and a rear pan.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180121/f19a55e2ebdd6b8271b9aa7faed8f4d8.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180121/04a23b4278970a76f07f2ad1dcc28471.jpg)

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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Tim on Jan 21, 2018, 17:01:26
The battery location looks cool, and I'm confident given your attention to detail you're thinking about things like this, but consider how you're going to connect/disconnect the terminals.

Make sure you have clearance for the bolts and tool.

That and ventilation for cooling the electrical components.
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Jan 21, 2018, 17:18:03
Yes, it needs some thinking about to get it right. The cowl will be removable and so the battery will be able to be lifted out worse case scenario (fixed to pan rather than cowl), but it should be possible to leave it all on too
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Mar 16, 2018, 15:39:21
Got some new Keihin PE22 carbs delivered this week. The plan was to bore the originals but apparently there isnít enough metal there, I had been warned this was likely the case (Iím not doing the more complex engine mods myself) so need to find some adaptors for these. Anybody know of any that will fit?

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180316/6e9fde0761cd133f9e645a9fc43e7088.jpg)
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Mar 18, 2018, 18:32:54
Collected some parts from the specialist who has overbored the barrels +1mm, beautifully smooth honed finish.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180318/a23248b10be883263d85b5e26c636576.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180318/ba5276ded916573f5727ac433f691088.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180318/0092e29403de11fdfe794f57e7c411e7.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180318/885124fec3e7ccfb008193c197dd0a93.jpg)

The air intake ports have been machined out and resin deposited in there and reshaped for a smoother air flow.  He used resin in the end as adding metal wasnít sticking, clever stuff.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180318/079199e95a3fba8faf5537d17b921362.jpg)

Boring stuff going on in the background includes taping up engine casings for painting, now that the temperature has gone up at bit. At least it did briefly.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180318/ce5c5d516e3c56da7d1d2e5db3da0337.jpg)
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Mar 26, 2018, 11:49:01
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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Alex jb on Mar 29, 2018, 16:33:12
 Nice work,
Did you match the port with the carb inlet size?

I have worked my 200 head quite a bit for smoother more continuous cross section flow, but havenít matched the carbs yet


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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Mar 29, 2018, 18:29:20
Yes - well, I didnít, but the guy doing the specialist engine work did/is.
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Apr 01, 2018, 19:04:23
Thatís my Easter weekend sorted

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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Apr 09, 2018, 08:10:48
So the upsized Keihins, along with the original manifolds, have now been machined to match the new gas flowed intake ports ...

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180409/aa53f9693d56e5378ad5778fac7d29f9.jpg)

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Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Apr 10, 2018, 11:06:32
Just got my stator back from rewinding, looks great.

Before:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180410/8e3f822a9ef55354cf81c3e30e61983a.jpg)

After:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180410/56ce3f7321a21a50e02f99381914d1cf.jpg)

And a bit of both: :D
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180410/c9c5ec81cecb31005d041ad787447ddc.jpg)
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Alex jb on Apr 10, 2018, 14:06:31
Nice job, is it the same output as original?
Mind if I ask what it cost ya?


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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Apr 10, 2018, 14:38:47
I havenít tested it but I think so, it was actually working before but the coatings were starting to fail so Iím not sure it would have lasted too long.

Cheap, £130 quid!
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: MickyC on Apr 13, 2018, 18:42:06
What a awesome build. May I ask what caliper that front brembo is from. Looking to upgrade my cb200 front but am struggling to find a small one to fit.


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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Apr 13, 2018, 18:49:44
It's actually a rear caliper, as you say, nothing decent for the front fits these little bikes. I'm not even sure this setup is going to work but we'll see.

From memory its one of these: https://www.biketorqueracing.co.uk/buy/brembo-brembo-oe-rear-brake-caliper-black/20516181.htm
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Apr 16, 2018, 14:38:39
Some crankcase rebuilding pics.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180416/29212b58e998f1384660efb1710d910f.jpg)

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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: teazer on Apr 16, 2018, 22:31:06
What size are the carbs bored to now?
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: canyoncarver on Apr 17, 2018, 23:02:50
What a cool build!
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Alex jb on Apr 18, 2018, 14:22:04
Thatís painfully clean!

Keep at it, itíll run in no time


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Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Apr 20, 2018, 12:00:25
Capellini adjustable crankcase breather


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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Alex jb on Apr 20, 2018, 13:35:25
Thatís very nice looking.

Do you need that size for venting a crank case?
I donít know, just asking
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Apr 20, 2018, 13:59:37
Itís made specifically for a CB200 actually!
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: trek97 on Apr 20, 2018, 14:08:58
Whatís the benefit to having it adjustable?
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Apr 20, 2018, 14:25:30
The adjustable just refers to being able to position the vent tube to suit your set up.
Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Apr 25, 2018, 07:04:42
What size are the carbs bored to now?

The carbs internals havenít been touched - I bought new carbs (PE22ís) as the originals didnít have enough metal for boring out.
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Apr 26, 2018, 06:19:10
So the engine work is all finished - head and carbs were the final bits. Engine specialist has done a superb job machining the carbs, some pics below. More to follow at the weekend.

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Petrol and heat proof hose to sleeve together:
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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180426/74acf78bf3155154ff35ac617d9754c0.jpg)

Iím just waiting for a couple of these to arrive to go over the hoses:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180426/91bc58be27cda7b211f5071877358f9f.jpg)
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: MickyC on Apr 26, 2018, 07:12:14
This is epic. What a awesome build. Did you find any other callipers that may have suited front mount? 


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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Apr 26, 2018, 08:24:39
You mean the front brake caliper? Nope, I designed the bracket to fit the caliper so I didnít look at any other calipers once I picked that one.
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Jun 04, 2018, 06:39:09
Almost there with the engine, just got these blasted as I forgot initially.
Sorry for the bad quality engine photo, poor lighting.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180604/21472dc1e2addde82f1a822fd0cef896.jpg)

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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Alex jb on Jun 04, 2018, 10:21:09
What carbs are you using?
Are you painting the journals black too?

Build is looking good.
Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Jun 04, 2018, 10:32:37
Thanks

They are PE22ís. Which donít fit around my frame of course.

Iím not sure those are called journals are they? You may be right! In any case yes theyíll be painted but Iím not sure about their covers, or the clutch and rotor covers which Iíve left as they were for now while I decide.
Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Alex jb on Jun 04, 2018, 18:15:58
The bores inside (with the oil groove) are the bearing surface for the cam, hope they didnít get too bead blasted.
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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Jun 05, 2018, 07:52:42
Donít worry!
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Pete12 on Jun 05, 2018, 20:03:56
Make sure they are really clean, particularly the oilways. That glass bead gets in everywhere and, well you know how hard glass is....
Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Jun 06, 2018, 02:27:07
Thanks - will do. I get stuff vapour blasted. Itís a finer finish. Although you still get metal dust and potentially some leftover over media which needs a good clean up as you say.
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Jun 18, 2018, 07:30:22
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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Alex jb on Jun 18, 2018, 15:22:52
Swanky photo!

Looks more than ready to be in that frame
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Oct 08, 2018, 04:40:14
Been quiet a while, busy moving house etc. Anyway, pleased to say I finally got the engine into the bike. Looks like a bike!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181008/9d911ebe2d4fdf5235f5cbc0a621a421.jpg)


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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Texasstar on Oct 08, 2018, 10:09:26
Looks awesome!!!!


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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: 1fasgsxr on Oct 08, 2018, 13:26:39
I like the red nipples... boy that dont sound right when you read it back to yourself  ;D
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Oct 08, 2018, 13:27:30
(Chuckles)


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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: Snacks on Oct 10, 2018, 17:18:39
looks great! i cant wait to see how the seat turns out.
Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Oct 20, 2018, 18:26:31
Finally got the starter tested and refurbished. Looking good in satin black to match the engine:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181020/a50f4467d379adb8fbe5b0f5f2e255f7.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181020/22d72454551535e041827e967b61de4d.jpg)


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Title: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: bex on Nov 04, 2018, 13:43:13
Needs some tweaking but pretty happy with this little set up using Motobits kit for a Cb175.

Spacers need turned down smaller and the shift side is being annoying because the bike frame is wonky, which is of course amplified in the rearset, not that you can tell from the angle of the photo.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181104/1451717ee53ac643d824e3961763d35a.jpg)

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Title: Re: Long awaited CB200 Build
Post by: canyoncarver on Nov 09, 2018, 11:43:10
Nice!