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Offline Tortron

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Tortrons Honda C95 bucket
« on: Jun 11, 2010, 05:19:17 »
Have had this in boxes in my shed for a while now. The bike itself cost me $1, i later picked up 2 complete engines and alot of spares for not much more.
Less the engine and indicator lenses the bike was pretty much complete.

Bike is a Honda C95 (160 Dream or thereabouts) 1958-1967
Engine is from a Honda CL175 (twin carbs and more aggressive cams than other 175 engines), I will be tuning this engine as i go.
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Honda's C95 was introduced in 1958 and enjoyed a production run lasting until 1967. It was powered by an inclined twin cylinder, overhead camshaft engine with bore and stroke of 49x61mm, displacing 154.6cc. Revving to 9,500rpm it developed 13.5bhp, leaving most of its European competitors in the shade.

CL175
Power: 19.00 HP (13.9 kW)) @ 9500 RPM
Max RPM: 10500


Have been wanting to build a bike for a while now. I have just finished rebuilding and customising a 1951 morris minor and have a couple of two stroke bicycle projects under my belt.


Here is the pile of parts (the flat head engine is a spare for the morrie)


and here is my initial mock up with a CL175 engine

Interestingly if you were to make up a top engine mount, use a single carb head and take a slight shaving off near the right hand foot pedal you could get away with this conversion very easily.
However the easy way doesn't let me play with all my powertools/toys

Fast forward about 6 months and i made a start.
The little back shed at our new flat wasn't being used for anything, so now its my bike shed (this also gives me more room in the car shed for any work needed on the morrie)


The first step was to sort through the boxes of spare parts and organise what i could (not shown is a few parts bins and shelves with all the parts laid out as best i could)

The next step was to strip this horrible blue paint, the darker is the original.  Half has been sanded off and left to rust and was generally plain nasty to look at.

Looking much better already.  Note the previous repair (im assuming, it seems far too rough for factory even tho it is the same on both sides) to the tank.  I really like the look of braising and darkened spot welds against the bare metal.  Also see how much of the frame is interfering with the carb.  I did toy with flipping the head on the engine, but didn't like the idea of fuel mix issues at speed.


Carbs cleaned and rebuilt


The extent of cutting each side.  Needs a little more to fit the ram tubes I'm planning on building.


Not shown (in any of these pics as i constantly have the engine in and out) is the top engine mount adaptor i have made.



So clearly i have weakened the frame by removing alot of the original steel right.
Well that's no problem.
 Call it a cowl i guess, fits behind the carbs on each side, another plate going in the middle.
Frame should regain its strength and then-some.








I hope to get the engine fitment all sorted this weekend.  I currently have a rebuilt topend sitting on my desk waiting to be mated to a rebuilt bottom end.
Clearly there is alot more work to do in every aspect of the build, so strap yourself on and enjoy the ride.



Offline bikeboy

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Re: Tortrons Honda C95 bucket
« Reply #1 on: Jun 11, 2010, 06:03:53 »
... so strap yourself on and enjoy the ride.

you have my attention sir  ;)

keep us posted

ian

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Re: Tortrons Honda C95 bucket
« Reply #2 on: Jun 11, 2010, 09:06:29 »
Really looking forward to seeing this progress.  I have a 1966 C95 myself that I'm just starting to work on again.
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Re: Tortrons Honda C95 bucket
« Reply #3 on: Jun 11, 2010, 09:35:32 »
Very interesting build. I can hear the purists bitching already, and that is great. :D Ill be watching intently.
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Offline 88

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Re: Tortrons Honda C95 bucket
« Reply #4 on: Jun 11, 2010, 10:15:56 »
I love those pressed framed bikes. I'll be watching this grow. What part of NZ are you from?

Re: Tortrons Honda C95 bucket
« Reply #5 on: Jun 11, 2010, 11:22:19 »
This might be my new favorite build thread ... can't wait to see where you take this thing.  Are you going to go with white walls for tires like in the pic?  I thought to myself I wonder how this will look with white wall then I looked again and saw you had one on the front.  Looks sharp ...
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Offline jay_kent

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Re: Tortrons Honda C95 bucket
« Reply #6 on: Jun 11, 2010, 11:31:46 »
Looks like a cool little build going to happen here.

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Offline Big Rich

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Re: Tortrons Honda C95 bucket
« Reply #7 on: Jun 11, 2010, 15:52:58 »
I'll join in and be watching this one too. Lots of potential - keep us posted!
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Offline p71sohc

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Re: Tortrons Honda C95 bucket
« Reply #8 on: Jun 11, 2010, 16:17:41 »
hmmmm....This looks really interesting. I cant wait to see how this turns out!
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Offline alpinaclone

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Re: Tortrons Honda C95 bucket
« Reply #9 on: Jun 12, 2010, 00:46:11 »
Very cool. I will be intently following this.

Chuck up a couple of pics of the Morris too.
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Offline Tortron

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Re: Tortrons Honda C95 bucket
« Reply #10 on: Jun 12, 2010, 01:05:27 »
Put in a couple of hours this afternoon.
Have done some further work on the engine mounts and have made up the appropriate spacers.
Also did a little more work on the carb situation, some work with a hammer and dolly and a small amount of cutting.  Now the carbs fit fine (less of course the choke lever which i couldn't be bothered with today, not that its a big job).  I hope to by tomorrow evening have the engine mounting finalised, the carbs fitting and fully functional and the frame bracing in.





With the shocks installed the front end should be raised about two inches.

Offline bikeboy

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Re: Tortrons Honda C95 bucket
« Reply #11 on: Jun 12, 2010, 02:46:25 »
Put in a couple of hours this afternoon.

that frame looks so cool with those spot welds and punched holes up near the headstem. It's a real pity that (also cool) tank covers them up. Love the bare metal finish on this thing.

Steam punk it dude   ;)

ian

Offline Tortron

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Re: Tortrons Honda C95 bucket
« Reply #12 on: Jun 12, 2010, 02:51:00 »
Interesting you bring that up.  I have a wee cylindrical tank left over from another project (from an ancient mower i think).  I have been thinking about mounting it either inside the frame, or strapped on top.
It wouldn't grant much range, but the idea of this build is to go as fast as possible in a short distance so thats not too much of an issue.  The weight savings over the full sized tank should also be considered.

Offline Rocan

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Re: Tortrons Honda C95 bucket
« Reply #13 on: Jun 12, 2010, 22:37:36 »
fuck... another thread i have to follow!

oh well, i plan on getting a c70 this summer when im back in my home country, malta. now im getting tons of ideas (god this summer is gonna be fun!)
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Offline dcmspikes

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Re: Tortrons Honda C95 bucket
« Reply #14 on: Jun 13, 2010, 01:29:28 »
yeah this is a great build.  that frame is so cool looking.  it just flows so nice from front to back and over the wheel.  cant wait to see more