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Author Topic: Beachcomber's Tales from the day  (Read 217334 times)

Offline beachcomber

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Re: Beachcomber's Tales from the day
« Reply #150 on: Feb 01, 2011, 09:16:42 »
Following on from "Dangerous Roy & the Manx", there's one more story involving Dangerous Roy worth the telling - "Dangerous Roy, the sidecar and the Cemetary". 8)
Coming up in the next week or so ...................
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Re: Beachcomber's Tales from the day
« Reply #151 on: Feb 02, 2011, 08:37:35 »
Here we are guys, the second of the Tales involving Dangerous Roy ......
 
Beachcomber’s – Tales from the Day - Feb 2011

“Dangerous Roy, the Sidecar and the Cemetery”

This is the second of the tales involving Dangerous Roy that we met in the story of the Manx Engine. This took place about 6 months after that incident, after Roy’s Dad had given me Roy’s RE Crusader and bought him a car.

Although Roy was effectively banned from having a bike by his Dad, he still wanted to maintain his friendship with the old crowd. Roy was a bit of an enigma – Mod by day at work and in the evenings, but he still hung around with us bikers. He was one of the rarities amongst our crowd in that he actually enjoyed being a pillion passenger – at least he was safer that way!

Anyway – the tale. In those days if you hitched a sidecar to your bike you immediately qualified for a 50% insurance discount, and as a learner you could scare 2 passengers to death rather than just one. Those of you that have ridden a chair outfit will know it’s not just a case of leaping on and away into the wild blue yonder. It also meant that you could have a much larger capacity bike for the same insurance as a tiddler. I’m not certain that the insurance companies had this in mind when they offered the 50% discount – I think they were looking at the married bloke with kids who couldn’t yet afford or maybe even had  driver licence for a small car.  Of course a lot of the lads then took the sidecar back off, but still maintaining the 50% insurance discount!

So when my pal Maurice decided that he wanted to upgrade his B31 [ 350cc] to a Road Rocket, the answer was to put a chair on the plot to reduce the insurance [ as he was a new rider ]. We found a suitable single sports chair [ Monza ] and duly set about arranging to get the chair hitched up. This is where Roy became involved in the plot, as he had a car and could easily run around to get the relevant lumps of metal and bracketery to attach the chair to the bike. In those days it was simply a matter of attaching clamps round the front down tube, bottom rail and usually picking up on the footrest hanger. These were just like small scaffolding clamps – very agricultural – but did the job. Amongst our mob were a couple of sidecar demons – one guy [ John Barker ?] went on to be something of an Isle of Man specialist. These guys volunteered their help in the black art of alignment, wheel lead, trail, toe and all sorts of things that didn’t apply to a solo. By about mid-day the alignment was to everyone’s satisfaction – so Roy volunteered to take us all to the local pub for a pint and a pie. Uncharacteristically we had more than a pint or 3 – something we normally would not have done when riding – and spent a pleasant 3 hours in the pub shooting the breeze. Eventually we all rolled back to Maury’s house to take the chair for a run. BTW – all the work was carried out in the roadway as he didn’t have a workshop.

So a little later and we’re all ready for a test run – everyone had gone of home by this time just leaving Maury, myself and Roy.

Roy was “volunteered” to go in the chair, whilst I rode pillion. We decided to go up to the famous “Wantz” bends – again, from the Roy and the Manx tale. The reasoning was that we could try out the bends there with Roy leaning out of the chair and acting as ballast whilst Maury did Max Deubel impressions.

The first couple of miles went without incident, but there were a couple of wobbles, which we put down to the fact that Maury had never ridden a chair outfit before. The first of the Wantz bends was taken in real Banzai fashion with a lurid 3 wheel drift which impressed us no end. Maury was screaming something incoherent whilst we were whooping and hollering encouragement to go faster for the next set of “S” bends [ “esses” ].

Well as he made no attempt to slow – we assumed he was really going for it. The second part of the bend was a right hander – after the same 3 wheel drift at full speed on the left hand element of the bend we were really in the zone – I was leaning as far to the right as I could and Roy was actually standing up in the chair leaning over the pillion seat between Maury and myself. Maury was still yelling “Hold on, hold on” – which we took as encouragement – however as we got to the apex of the bend, instead of a controlled drift round the right hander – we simply ploughed straight on at undiminished speed ………………………

Fortunately on the outside of the bend was an unmade road that led to the local Cemetery – so off went the outfit, with arms and legs everywhere. It was only then that we noticed that the chair and the bike were much closer together, and at a very steep vertical angle – certainly NOT the 5 degrees we had set. The bike eventually slewed sideways catapulting Roy off and into a muddy ditch at the side of the track.

After we spent the next 10 minutes or so telling Maury what we thought of his driving – we looked at the outfit to realise that the front mounts had completely undone themselves and the whole thing was only held on by the rear footrest mount. The reason for Maury’s speed into the bends also became apparent – as both the sidecar and rear brake [ the two main brakes for a chair ] had become detached along with the clamps. That’s also why Maury was screaming “Hold on” as he was totally certain he wasn’t going to make the bends!

Yes, in our best Monty Python style we were so chuffed with our efforts to align the chair precisely – we had forgotten to tighten any of the clamps up before we went to the pub – and went completely out of our minds when we returned! 

Fortunately none of the clamps had actually gone awol, so it was a pretty simple task to put them back in place and then tighten them up ! All this done on an unmade track, and with no means of aligning the outfit – other than by eye. Funny thing was when we eventually got back and checked – it was so close that we didn’t need to alter it at all. The only damage to the outfit was slightly scuffed paint on the frame tubes and a buggered sidecar brake cable.

Roy ………………….. yes minor cuts and bruises, but sad to say that yet again one of his Winkle Pickers would be picking no Winkles for the foreseeable. His Best Mod suit was also ripped and caked in mud – that’s Roy.

I have NO idea how he might have explained his accident to his ever suffering Father, however suffice it to say that although Roy continued to ride pillion with us – he NEVER again went in an outfit !
 
« Last Edit: Feb 02, 2011, 08:39:40 by beachcomber »
"if at first you don't succeed, you've already been a failure once"

" we're not going back to the sixties - we never left "

"yep, nostalgia ain't what it used to be"

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Re: Beachcomber's Tales from the day
« Reply #152 on: Feb 02, 2011, 11:09:51 »
Ha! Thats great!
Like a river that don't know where it's flowin'
I took a wrong turn and just kept goin'

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Re: Beachcomber's Tales from the day
« Reply #153 on: Feb 04, 2011, 22:22:29 »
Love this thread!
Roy should have worn his Rocker gear when out with you lot
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Re: Beachcomber's Tales from the day
« Reply #154 on: Feb 04, 2011, 22:45:14 »
I can relate to Roy
I love the Mod look and music , even the scooters but you cant beat how it feels
to be on a bike
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Re: Beachcomber's Tales from the day
« Reply #155 on: Feb 05, 2011, 01:11:56 »
Good laugh!!!  I can relate to that as I had a Watsonian Monza hooked up to a Triton in the 70s.  Turned it over into a ditch with my Dad in the chair.  But thats another story and pales into insignificance compared to Dad (in his teens)spearing his younger brother on a wrought iron fence as he looped a sidecar trying to get it home in a hurry before his dad saw them.  The mod and rocker gear is funny.  When I went over to Ireland in 1967 I got a job with a small engineering suppliers.  We were expected to wear a white shirt and tie to work.  I can rememberoutting on a nice white shirt and tie then all the rocker gear for the ride to work.  Cool thing was the boss (tweed jacket, cavalry twill pants, RAF mustache and pipe) didn't care what you looked like outside work.  But inside you better have that tie on.
 
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Re: Beachcomber's Tales from the day
« Reply #156 on: Feb 15, 2011, 07:43:12 »
Just writing up the Tale for March -
 
"Two Inter engines, half a Manx engine, an Isetta bubble car and a wheelbarrow".
 
Not sure what you guys call a wheelbarrow - a single wheeled container for building / gardening work pushed with 2 handles at the rear.
 
This tale came about after I was sitting on the roadside outside my Gran's house in the pissing rain with the light from a torch fitting the Manx engine from the "Roy and the Manx engine" tale.
Here's one -
 
« Last Edit: Feb 15, 2011, 08:00:12 by beachcomber »
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Re: Beachcomber's Tales from the day
« Reply #157 on: Feb 15, 2011, 09:04:09 »
yep, that's a wheelbarrow where I come from, but then we still have the queen on our money :-)

Cheers,  looking forward to the tale,

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Re: Beachcomber's Tales from the day
« Reply #158 on: Feb 15, 2011, 09:20:07 »
We have dead Presidents and one dude that never made it to President but was a hell of a patriot and ambassador to our country on our money, and we call it a wheelbarrow too!

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Re: Beachcomber's Tales from the day
« Reply #159 on: Feb 16, 2011, 12:41:30 »
We have dead Presidents and one dude that never made it to President but was a hell of a patriot and ambassador to our country on our money, and we call it a wheelbarrow too!

We call people like that Rebels.

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