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Author Topic: Beachcomber's TR1 - now "Cafe-Creme" Boardtracker 'ish  (Read 14324 times)

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Re: Beachcomber's TR1 - now "Cafe-Creme" Boardtracker 'ish
« Reply #30 on: May 10, 2012, 06:38:26 »
Troy I'm real flattered that you will be spending some of your hard earned "spare time" following my project - no pressure then !! 8)

Ancestory is top of my pile at the moment - Monterey seems popular with most folk, but I feel that the Ancestory has more "movement" - due to the slope ?

Thanx for posting the French sign .... IF I Do go with the one in my head [ if I find it ] - it WILL be as the old Cafe Noir sign I saw all those years back. Never the less - that poster does have the correct period feel about it.

I might sketch out as close as I can to the old Cafe sign and see what others make of it.

I don't feel that I am sufficiently "one of the boys" yet to ask out loud for help with the design from pro's like Crescent.

Colourways DEFINITELY Coffee / Cream - at least one decision made !

Brass fire extinguisher - great minds !!  ;) That's one of the items we're going to look for at the Autojumble! The old immediate post WW2 Post Office / Telephone vans [ Morris Z van ] used to have a small brass extinguisher attached to the outside of the door. It was purely mechanical, and all Brass. There are one or two other WW1 era brass do-dads that I have in mind. Don't want to overdo it, as the original plan was for a "minimilistic" look.

I also have a very specific idea for the Turbo oil return pipe. Instead of using Russell / Earl's / ....... Stainless hose I'm going to have some 1/2" Copper pipe wound into a loose series of coils [ like a shock spring ], maybe 10" - 12" deep overall and say 3" o/a diameter - which will also act as an oil cooler !!

A pal [ that I got the 4" period speedo from ] has also got a long handled handlebar choke lever - which he's debating whether to let me have. If not, I've got my eye on a brass advance / retard plate and lever [ dash ] from an old Austin car. That might be incorporated on the side of the tank and will operate the mechanical choke on the SU.
Like everything, depends on cost.

I managed to score a couple of Citroen 2CV "Dolly" headlamps yesterday [ E-bay ], which look pre-WW1, even though they're 1980's ! I plan to use one of them with a suitable lens.

My pal AC that I'm building another bike for - has also fallen in love with the style..might be building 2 now ! I told him he can have my second colourway choice - Satin Blackcurrant and Lemon. It also means that he has a 4LS Grimeca front hub / brake assembly going spare ............................

Excuse my ignorance - "M" bars ? I think the full droop Boardtrack race bars will be too extreme for my ageing joints and pull backs - too "Cruiser'ish".

I saw somthing similar to what I have in mind in one of my old Back Street Heroes mags, I'll try to dig it out.

I think Father would definitely approve of using the lamps, rather than have them sit on a shelf gathering dust.

Keep the ideas and critiques coming guys, really grateful for your input - a sort of International Design forum !

Ideas are really starting to buzz now, and with input from my US and Worldwide cousins - I'm sure the outcome will be at least a moderate success. :)

Attached the Post Office version - with extiguisher on the fender - the Royal Mail [red vans ] had them attached to the door.

« Last Edit: May 10, 2012, 07:09:33 by beachcomber »
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Re: Beachcomber's TR1 - now "Cafe-Creme" Boardtracker 'ish
« Reply #31 on: May 10, 2012, 08:20:57 »
This Interwebby thing is extraordinary !

30 minutes of trawling and I've come up with this little gem. AND for less than the price of the fuel to get me to the Autojumble!

I'll ditch the mount for something a bit more inkeeping. Might use it to put the SU electric fuel pump inside.



« Last Edit: May 10, 2012, 08:23:11 by beachcomber »
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Re: Beachcomber's TR1 - now "Cafe-Creme" Boardtracker 'ish
« Reply #32 on: May 10, 2012, 09:01:49 »
And the brand name 'Desmo' has motorcycling significance!

Although I can't imagine any connection with Ducatis.

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Re: Beachcomber's TR1 - now "Cafe-Creme" Boardtracker 'ish
« Reply #33 on: May 10, 2012, 09:38:23 »
Troy was I believe referring to the classic (and British) Norman Hyde M bars.

https://normanhyde.co.uk/hinckley-triumph/7-8-m-bars-with-end-plugs.html

I'm running an aftermarket set on my SR500.  Nice comfy bars but without any real rise to them so a low profile.



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Re: Beachcomber's TR1 - now "Cafe-Creme" Boardtracker 'ish
« Reply #34 on: May 10, 2012, 11:54:16 »
Tim is correct I was refering to the Norman Hyde M bars. Might be what you are refering to lazy pull back bars?
Awesome score on the tank. That was fast! Lots of great ideas coming together that's for sure. The turbo oil (cooler)return line will be a sweet (functional) touch. And I love the idea for the mechanical choke.
Is AC a member here? Would love to watch two bikes in this style being built.
Are you still heading to the Autojumble? If so, can't wait to see what you haul back.
By the way, I've always considered you one of the boys and I'm certain many others feel the same!
I can't wait for an update!
 
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Re: Beachcomber's TR1 - now "Cafe-Creme" Boardtracker 'ish
« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2012, 13:07:44 »
red face here Tim / Troy - guess I should have known about "M" bars !!! :-[ :-[ :-[

Especially as Norman is a very good and old friend of John Hancox ! John has arranged for me to meet up with Norman after the TT.

The look I'm after [ and comfort ] - Imagine the first bends [ from the clamps ] reversed, and then the actual hand grip part like an Ace [ Clubmans ] but all slow bends.

AC isn't a member of ANY forum - he's totally not of the computer age and really has no time as his day job [ building those Jag and Cobra replicas ] really is a full time job.

No need to worry - he'll be here by proxy as I'll be building his bikes for him and I'll set up a seperate thread.

I've scored some other neat brass items on E-Bay - but I'll show them IF I decide to use them.
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Re: Beachcomber's TR1 - now "Cafe-Creme" Boardtracker 'ish
« Reply #36 on: May 12, 2012, 11:01:35 »
I'm reliably informed [ via PM ] that the coiled return pipe might not be a good idea as the return should be as direct as possible. Just so others are aware.
"if at first you don't succeed, you've already been a failure once"

" we're not going back to the sixties - we never left "

"yep, nostalgia ain't what it used to be"

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Re: Beachcomber's TR1 - now "Cafe-Creme" Boardtracker 'ish
« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2012, 09:38:23 »
While I was doing minor riding mods to the Summer mule [ which will be torn down for the TR1 Cafe Racer ] I just happened to lay the Renthals on the tank to check for width / control cables - and voila ...........that's pretty much the idea I had in mind for Cafe Creme !  ;D

Bends aren't quite right - but you get the idea.

 
"if at first you don't succeed, you've already been a failure once"

" we're not going back to the sixties - we never left "

"yep, nostalgia ain't what it used to be"

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Re: Beachcomber's TR1 - now "Cafe-Creme" Boardtracker 'ish
« Reply #38 on: May 15, 2012, 14:11:03 »
Won this one today - £8.50 [ $20 ? ]

Fingers still crossed for the Desmo version - just has to be , doesn't it ? ;)

"if at first you don't succeed, you've already been a failure once"

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Re: Beachcomber's TR1 - now "Cafe-Creme" Boardtracker 'ish
« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2012, 14:33:27 »
And here's the Citroen Dolly headlamp.

It's got an "olde Worlde" look but takes modern [ and easily available ] bulbs and lenses [ 6" ].

The body is injected plastic, which makes it easier to fit the various idiot lights. All in all - well pleased.

"if at first you don't succeed, you've already been a failure once"

" we're not going back to the sixties - we never left "

"yep, nostalgia ain't what it used to be"

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Re: Beachcomber's TR1 - now "Cafe-Creme" Boardtracker 'ish
« Reply #40 on: May 16, 2012, 01:17:35 »
Great work, look forward to more progress.

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Re: Beachcomber's TR1 - now "Cafe-Creme" Boardtracker 'ish
« Reply #41 on: May 16, 2012, 17:07:17 »
Hahaaaaaa it's mine all mine ........................... ;D

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Re: Beachcomber's TR1 - now "Cafe-Creme" Boardtracker 'ish
« Reply #42 on: May 16, 2012, 22:26:38 »
Success!!

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Re: Beachcomber's TR1 - now "Cafe-Creme" Boardtracker 'ish
« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2012, 05:52:06 »
Stroker, must be easily pleased at my age - I was like a 5 year old at Christmas when my bid won!

What is important to me is that I have found I CAN think outside the 1960's Cafe Racer stereotype. That in a way has made me even more determined that my TR1 "Vindicator"
Cafe Racer will be as faithfull to the 60's as I can make it.

I've pretty well convinced myself to buy the spare Grimeca 4LS front hub/brake from my pal - even though it will represent more outlay than the rest of the bike put together !
 
The more I get into the Cafe-Creme project - the more my old creative juices are flowing - again, just like when I was a youth.

The Autojumble is in 2 week's time - I have some specific ideas for other Vintage parts [ car ] that might look the biz.

I hope to be looking at options for the frame by the end of the month - I've a couple of pals who could do the job with no problem. The tank still remains the main cost - again like the Grimeca for the CR - just got to grit the teeth and pay out what's required - probably 4 week's pension money !

Thanx everyone for the interest and more important - the input, keep it coming.
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Re: Beachcomber's TR1 - now "Cafe-Creme" Boardtracker 'ish
« Reply #44 on: May 17, 2012, 06:09:23 »
beachcomber, if I came across a classic 4LS brake I would build a bike around it!

Don't see too many of them around these days - come to think of didn't see too many of them here in Oz back when!

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