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Author Topic: LEDs and other questions  (Read 588 times)

Offline Fox

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LEDs and other questions
« on: Apr 07, 2012, 00:47:01 »
Howdy Gents,

Working through the wiring on my '75 CL360. Can't seem to get my front or rear blinkers to flash. I've got an electronic flasher in the circuit(purchased from DCC) and I've cleaned the connections on it multiple times. Both front and rear blinkers will illuminate, but, of course, not flash. Not really sure what I'm missing here. Grounding problem? Inline resistors? I've poured over my wiring diagram, but can't seem to find the missing link. Anyone got some thoughts on this?

Here's a copy of the wiring diagram if anyone needs a refresher.
http://www.oregonmotorcycleparts.com/Diagrams/CB-CL360.jpg
« Last Edit: Apr 10, 2012, 01:48:00 by Fox »
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Offline Big Rich

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Re: LEDs refuse to flash
« Reply #1 on: Apr 07, 2012, 00:53:06 »
Could it be a faulty flasher? As long as it's wired up correctly, it really shouldn't give you any issues.

I haven't bought a relay from DCC, so I can't speak for that one specifically. But I do know they are not all created equal. I've had problems with flasher relays from Autozone but not from superbrightleds.com.

Offline arudeseal

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Re: LEDs refuse to flash
« Reply #2 on: Apr 07, 2012, 01:01:57 »
Mine did the same thing until I bought a three prong electronic flasher and grounded the third prong to the frame. Now it flashes great, including the indicator in the tach.
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Offline Fox

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Re: LEDs refuse to flash
« Reply #3 on: Apr 07, 2012, 02:00:43 »
Good information. You guys got any links to a three prong flasher or one from superbrightled?

Also, as I was working on my horn(Which is fixed by the way!!!) my rear blinkers will not come on separately. No matter which way I toggle the blinker switch they both come on. I've tried grounding them to separate grounds, and switching wires, but nothin. Maybe I'm missing something simple as I'm pretty worn out, but I figured I'd throw it up any way since I had a thread going. Oh, and my front blinkers come on separately. Thanks for all the help.
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Offline Big Rich

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Re: LEDs refuse to flash
« Reply #4 on: Apr 07, 2012, 02:05:31 »
They are coming on all at once, all the time? sounds like some crossed wires somewhere. Might be best off sleeping it off and looking at it with fresh eyes tomorrow.

Offline arudeseal

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Re: LEDs refuse to flash
« Reply #5 on: Apr 07, 2012, 10:45:16 »
You need resistors in line more than likely.  Even though mine flash independently, they the non-flashing light will blink just a tiny bit at the same time. The flasher allows some tiny amount of continuity through. I guess the LEDs use such a tiny amount of power that any leakage is going to light them. For me, its such a tiny amount that it doesn't make a difference.
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Re: LEDs refuse to flash
« Reply #6 on: Apr 08, 2012, 14:14:54 »
You don't need resistors, you need to check wiring connections and polarity.

Get a 3 prong flasher off eBay from Hong Kong or similar
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Offline Fox

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Re: LEDs refuse to flash
« Reply #7 on: Apr 08, 2012, 15:07:47 »
Yeah, thats what I'm gonna go for. I'll check my connections, but I'm pretty sure they're wired up right. I'm not sure how they could both be getting power at the same time. Like I said, I'll double check.

Would a 3 prong flasher from Autozone work? Would save me the latent time of waiting for it to come in.

Also, needing to replace my ignition coils/point/condenser. Looking at getting the Dyna ignition 5 ohm system, but wondering how it plugs up to the stock wiring harness. Anyone got a thread/guide on installing this?
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Offline Redbird

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Re: LEDs refuse to flash
« Reply #8 on: Apr 08, 2012, 15:07:54 »
You don't need resistors, you need to check wiring connections and polarity.

+1

As for the no flash issue... did you try swapping the flasher wires? Digital/LED relays will only work in one direction.
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Re: LEDs refuse to flash
« Reply #9 on: Apr 08, 2012, 19:15:56 »
The Autozone one didn't work for me
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Offline Fox

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Re: LEDs refuse to flash
« Reply #10 on: Apr 10, 2012, 01:47:41 »
I've tried every variation of wires. I'm going to order a three prong flasher offline. My main concern now is that I can't figure out what's up with my rear blinkers coming on at the same time.

Also, anyone got an electronic ignition on their bike? Looking at getting one and wanting to know if it's worth it. Gonna restate my Dyna Coil question too. Info anyone? Trying to condense my questions to one thread so I don't overload the board with a bunch of different ones.
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