thanks guys! forgot to mention i also scored a 50' roll of copper colored exhaust wrap on amazon for $10! haven't seen it for less than 45-55, so i was very pleased with that deal to say the least. reason for it being so cheap was that it was "used" but in "like new" condition. i thought how the heck could you "use" exhaust wrap but still have it in "new" condition? figured i'd chance it and see, and it turns out "used" meant that the packaging it came it had been opened, but the wrap was still in it's plastic wrapper inside haha.