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Offline pandknz

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CB360 Cafe Project.......
« on: Jun 22, 2012, 20:30:08 »
Hi all

new to the forum and to building bikes, riden plenty but never done a ground up project.
Mechanic by trade but no product knowledge with the Honda so I'll be looking for plenty of help

Subject: 1976 CB360 as seen in the pics below
Timeframe:as long as it takes
Style: Cafe Racer
Helper: Cody (my 13 yr old boy)
Aim: Do The Ton!




Offline snolte00

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Re: CB360 Cafe Project.......
« Reply #1 on: Jun 22, 2012, 21:03:37 »
Looks like a good platform. First things first, get the weight off. I was able to get about 35lbs off mine. Its more about trimming the fat than increasing the hp if you want to do the ton. These bikes are super simple in design but make sure when you get to any wiring, especially in the headlight bucket, that you LABEL LABEL LABEL! Honda built a great bike but their wiring is a complete cluster. I spent a solid 2 weeks trying to figure out a wiring issue because I unplugged the wrong wire. Other than that this forum is great and can answer any question you may have. Good luck

Stephen

Offline Sonreir

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Re: CB360 Cafe Project.......
« Reply #2 on: Jun 22, 2012, 22:05:28 »
Weight has nothing to do with top speed, only acceleration.  Hitting the ton on a Honda 360 without streamlining requires horsepower.
1977 Honda CJ360 - Café SOS - Stage One™, Café SOS - Stage Two™
1982 Honda CB750C - Project Zoidberg
1963 Yamaha YDS3
1973 Suzuki T500
1982 Yamaha Seca XJ750R

Custom Gauge Graphics
Custom Wiring Harnesses

If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.  - Carl Sagan

Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. -Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Whether or not you can never be great at something, you can always become better at it.  -Neil deGrasse Tyson

Basically, it comes down to this, do you know what your doing?  If not, forget about what you want and do what your told (sucks but that's life)  -crazypj

Offline trek97

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Re: CB360 Cafe Project.......
« Reply #3 on: Jun 22, 2012, 22:16:48 »
Looks like somebody had a TON of fun on that thing before you got your hands on it!   These things are really starting to come out of the woodwork.   and thats awesome !  Now, you and that boy get busy.  And build a great machine.   Gonna have to get that engine "tight" if you wanna do the ton.
I enjoy helping those who are willing to work towards helping themselves, its a tough love kinda thing. 

Build thread...http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=27417.0
My 360 blog....http://www.hondabrat.com/
Show and shine post...http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=37737.0

Offline 3DogNate

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Re: CB360 Cafe Project.......
« Reply #4 on: Jun 23, 2012, 00:02:51 »
These bikes are super simple in design but make sure when you get to any wiring, especially in the headlight bucket, that you LABEL LABEL LABEL! Honda built a great bike but their wiring is a complete cluster. I spent a solid 2 weeks trying to figure out a wiring issue because I unplugged the wrong wire.

Screw that nasty '70s wiring... I'm rewiring my 360 from the ground up, (pun intended), all new wiring and modern connectors. LEDs all around  maybe even for the headlight. That funky wiring is something that just completely kills my mojo...

Offline trek97

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Re: CB360 Cafe Project.......
« Reply #5 on: Jun 23, 2012, 18:07:21 »
Screw that nasty '70s wiring... I'm rewiring my 360 from the ground up, (pun intended), all new wiring and modern connectors. LEDs all around  maybe even for the headlight. That funky wiring is something that just completely kills my mojo...

HA!  he said mojo...  as in Mojo Jojo!  Well atleast it sounds like you have the right NEVER GIVE UP attitude to own a 360 from the start.  Now hit it !
I enjoy helping those who are willing to work towards helping themselves, its a tough love kinda thing. 

Build thread...http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=27417.0
My 360 blog....http://www.hondabrat.com/
Show and shine post...http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=37737.0

Offline pandknz

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Re: CB360 Cafe Project.......
« Reply #6 on: Jun 23, 2012, 21:46:07 »
Ok, got a fair bit stripped down as you can see





I have started on the gauges and the carbs,  everything is like a bunch of small projects

Condition of gauges is poor but I will get them good again




Offline crazypj

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Re: CB360 Cafe Project.......
« Reply #7 on: Jun 23, 2012, 22:26:00 »
Great bike, nice to see your not chopping up a good condition 'survivor'
Lot of 360's here so no problems getting thing worked out.
 Be careful with the wiring, there are differences between early 74, late 74 and 75 360's, it can get confusing if your wiring doesn't match any wiring diagram.
 I've never seen one with that sort of mileage, is speedo actually working?
« Last Edit: Jun 23, 2012, 22:32:42 by crazypj »
'you can take my word for it or argue until you find out I'm right'
I gave my girlfriend an orgasm the other night, but, she spat it back at me
CB360's,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11736.0
XS650,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11922.0

Offline crazypj

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Re: CB360 Cafe Project.......
« Reply #8 on: Jun 23, 2012, 22:31:23 »
Screw that nasty '70s wiring... I'm rewiring my 360 from the ground up, (pun intended), all new wiring and modern connectors. LEDs all around  maybe even for the headlight. That funky wiring is something that just completely kills my mojo...

 Wiring is real simple,
If you see Red, it's direct live 12v dc
Black, switched 12v
Green, ground
Black/white tracer, Ignition in (12v)
yellow and blue, points/condensers  (Blue also used for high beam on a different circuit)
'you can take my word for it or argue until you find out I'm right'
I gave my girlfriend an orgasm the other night, but, she spat it back at me
CB360's,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11736.0
XS650,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11922.0

Offline pandknz

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Re: CB360 Cafe Project.......
« Reply #9 on: Jun 24, 2012, 05:45:48 »
Thanks PJ, its a 1976 vintage, I have a good wiring diagram and checked it all prior to stripping

Offline pandknz

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Re: CB360 Cafe Project.......
« Reply #10 on: Jun 25, 2012, 07:15:21 »
Cleaned and polished the carbs (yes they are Mikuni, this is what it came with and I have been told they perform better so keep them)
New seal kit and hoses etc on its way,
Q? should I spray them with a clear coat? will this be better long term as I suspect it will but will I loose any shine?

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Offline trek97

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Re: CB360 Cafe Project.......
« Reply #11 on: Jun 25, 2012, 07:28:36 »
Fuel eats spray can clearcoat.  instantly.  If you clear them they will look like crap the first time you open them up.  Peeling, bubbling, flaking, staining (yellow or brown) the clearcoat. 
If you have never believed anything anyone has written on here...you can believe me, when it comes to this!  And its not the fuel so much, as it is the additives and cleaners.
« Last Edit: Jun 25, 2012, 07:41:36 by trek97 »
I enjoy helping those who are willing to work towards helping themselves, its a tough love kinda thing. 

Build thread...http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=27417.0
My 360 blog....http://www.hondabrat.com/
Show and shine post...http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=37737.0

Offline Sonreir

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Re: CB360 Cafe Project.......
« Reply #12 on: Jun 25, 2012, 11:37:50 »
I'm not convinced it's a good idea to paint or coat carbs.  On something that has so many small passageways, it would be easy to get something clogged in there.
1977 Honda CJ360 - Café SOS - Stage One™, Café SOS - Stage Two™
1982 Honda CB750C - Project Zoidberg
1963 Yamaha YDS3
1973 Suzuki T500
1982 Yamaha Seca XJ750R

Custom Gauge Graphics
Custom Wiring Harnesses

If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.  - Carl Sagan

Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. -Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Whether or not you can never be great at something, you can always become better at it.  -Neil deGrasse Tyson

Basically, it comes down to this, do you know what your doing?  If not, forget about what you want and do what your told (sucks but that's life)  -crazypj

Offline crazypj

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Re: CB360 Cafe Project.......
« Reply #13 on: Jun 25, 2012, 13:44:38 »
Are the slides in the right way round?
the cutaway should be on airbox side
 they are probably left and right handed and in the wrong carb?
If they are, they are a real small cutaway
'you can take my word for it or argue until you find out I'm right'
I gave my girlfriend an orgasm the other night, but, she spat it back at me
CB360's,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11736.0
XS650,  http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=11922.0

Offline axeugene27

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Re: CB360 Cafe Project.......
« Reply #14 on: Jun 25, 2012, 16:10:16 »
they are carbs dude they don't need to be shiny. That aside they look nice. I wouldn't worry about coating them at all. I see someone with the attention to detail to shine carb bowls is pretty likely to polish them when he polishes the rest of the bike ie weekly at least. lol
72cb350 barn burner build http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=37654.20

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