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Author Topic: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750  (Read 84976 times)

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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #540 on: Dec 04, 2017, 06:35:07 »
Over the past week I've been looking into the blower drive take off that I was contemplating - ie from the alternator fixing bolt [ 12mm ]. It's the only logical / practical place, but I was concerned about the torsional shear stress on the fixing. The blower will take around 15 - 20 bhp to drive, but it's the inertia that needs to be overcome that's a concern. Soooooooooo - back to the turbo then !!! What's that about " I used to be indecisive - now I'm not so sure" !!

The blower set up is much more familiar to me, but I do not want to take the risk of a marginal drive output. So I will revert to using he same take off to drive the Gixer oil pump for the oil cooler and turbo feed. The only good news [ ? ] is that I spent some months thinking about the turbo set up and planning the packaging. One of the major benefits is the much lower weight and compactness.

The decision was finally declared a no-brainer when our pal Der-Nanno informed me that he's found a carbon seal turbo for his TR1 project. Thanx mate ! That means I can use the SU carb I have in a draw through set-up and I already bought most of the ancillaries I will need - boost gauge, oil pressure gauge, oil lines and fittings, etc., etc. That makes the whole packaging much simpler - including manifolding, even my 2 > 1 high level exhaust will easily hook up to the turbo flange !

The ramp and all parts are now round at my pal's garage, he's just finishing replacing and moving some of the light fittings and then we're good to go.
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #541 on: Dec 04, 2017, 11:12:58 »
So it begins ..... again !  ::)

Set up in my pal's garage. Dummy engine and parts will be installed this week. remarkably I have located MOST of the parts that were in my shed !!  ;)

Next job  [ next week ] is to align front wheel and measure up for the wheel spacers - then I can roughly align the rear wheel and again measure for spacers.

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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #542 on: Dec 04, 2017, 11:48:09 »
Glad I could be of service. It's a bit of a shame really, as I really wanted to see how your KZ750 with a blower stacks up against my Turbo TR1 and even more so, to ride that one out in Glemseck. That being said, I just pulled the trigger on an Eaton M24 (it was too cheap to pass) and will get my whole CT20 setup going. I may have a cunning idea for a supercharger-drive, but I first have to make sure, I can find some room for everything inside that engine case...

(Once I crack open that can of worms, I'll get a thread started as I am currently busy with my new everyday TR1 engine...)
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #543 on: Dec 04, 2017, 12:54:01 »
Thanx for the headsup on the Eaton ................... I'm selling my race prepped FI Eaton and the stock Merc 200 version. So I guess I will also be looking for an M24 !! I have the germ of an idea for a substantial drive for the KZ........ but it will require machining - again ! However, I will then have a spare engine [ # 3 ] to play with.
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #544 on: Dec 07, 2017, 07:56:39 »
Another few bits of the jigsaw in play now !  8) My pal AC [ C Type reps ] will get his guys to fab my alloy under frame fuel cell and all the fittings and is supplying me with a pair of the 325 mm RAMSHOX.  ;D

I've also ordered the combo oil feed / return flange for the Turbo.

Next week we'll be finalising the measurements for the wheel spacers and setting up the bike ride height / geometry, etc.
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #545 on: Dec 07, 2017, 15:56:12 »
Cool stuff, let me know how you like that oil-drain-feed-thingy, I have considered buying one and then decided against it, mainly, because I have some oil-lines I want to re-use ...
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #546 on: Dec 07, 2017, 18:07:30 »
Cool stuff, let me know how you like that oil-drain-feed-thingy, I have considered buying one and then decided against it, mainly, because I have some oil-lines I want to re-use ...

Will do.

It's cheap enough 8.50 .... but the carriage [ from the USA ] is 16 !!!! That said, the weld bungs would cost about 15.00 for the pair here in the UK.

The fittings are 10AN drain and 4 AN feed. Those Chinabay oil lines and fittings I bought are TOP quality and silly cheap. I just got a few random fittings and hose just to check the quality out. My pal Brian was the UK agent for Russell Hose and he is impressed with them. Once we've laid out what lines we need I'll get the parts ordered.

I've just made contact with a guy who is into Autocross and builds all his own cars and engines. He's taken pity on my non-existent machining , welding and fab skills and has said he will make what bits he can for me.
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #547 on: Dec 07, 2017, 18:20:32 »
BTW Greg ..... looks like I found my Motobecane !!!! An old pal in France who builds my pal's C and D Type replicas made contact with me to order another car [ that's THREE ] from my pal. He calls me as my pal's French is non existent ..... and mine is conversational, if out of practice.

He has in fact found me a choice of 4 - 3 MB and one Terrot. All around 300 euros, but OK for my purposes.

So, thanx for putting the word out for me with your pals, but looks like I'm sorted. Unless you know of a super cheap 125 / 250 Virago motor !!!!! He is coming over with an empty trailer to collect his next car in Feb/March and will bring the bike [s !! ] over with him.
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #548 on: Dec 07, 2017, 20:06:22 »
BTW Greg ..... looks like I found my Motobecane !!!! An old pal in France who builds my pal's C and D Type replicas made contact with me to order another car [ that's THREE ] from my pal. He calls me as my pal's French is non existent ..... and mine is conversational, if out of practice.

He has in fact found me a choice of 4 - 3 MB and one Terrot. All around 300 euros, but OK for my purposes.

So, thanx for putting the word out for me with your pals, but looks like I'm sorted. Unless you know of a super cheap 125 / 250 Virago motor !!!!! He is coming over with an empty trailer to collect his next car in Feb/March and will bring the bike [s !! ] over with him.

now that is going to look cool with a supercharger on it
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Re: "Tangerine Dream" / Glemseck - KZ750
« Reply #549 on: Dec 08, 2017, 05:01:53 »
now that is going to look cool with a supercharger on it

Ha,ha ........... you peeked inside my brain !!!!!!!!

Small V twin - Virago 125 / 250 with my small Eaton blower ................... of course I ALSO have a spare KZ750 twin motor now with 40DCOE Weber ...............

If / When it happens, I guess I'll have to start another thread ................... that will be for the final, final project then ?
"if at first you don't succeed, you've already been a failure once"

" we're not going back to the sixties - we never left "

"yep, nostalgia ain't what it used to be"

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